Khemitology: Egyptian Tourism's Biggest Hoax?
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- Tucked away in a small shop near the Giza necropolis is the Khemit School of Ancient Mysticism, which offers tours of Egyptian monuments based on the teachings of Khemitology, a mystical movement developed by Stephen Mehler and based on the teachings of Abd'El Hakim Awyan. Proponents of Khemitology claim it represents a superior approach to the ancient history of Egypt than Egyptology. Can these claims be believed. This video investigates.
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Excellent video. I severed all ties with the Khemit School years ago. I became aware of their deceptive practices after my own lengthy investigation into Khemitology. I was brought in as a producer to film a biopic about Hakim and the Khemit School. Once I became aware of the false narrative that they perpetuate and questioned it, things went south. Although your understanding of esoteric matters and historical figures of western esoteric tradition, may not reflect my own, I do agree with you in that Mehler is using Hakim as a prop, or rather as his token "indigenous wisdom keeper". I have had the displeasure of working closely with Stephen Mehler, and his student, Patricia Awyan who started the Khemit School of Ancient Mysticism (KSAM) which was the idea of Mehler who wanted to create his own version of The Rosicrucian Order, AMORC (Ancient Mystical Order of Rosae Crucis). But one problem is that unlike AMORC, Mehler's new movement did not have an authentic linegage. Hence, Hakim and the so called indigenous wisdom tradition. Make no mistake. Khemitology should be called Mehlerology and Khemit School is NOT a school based on an indigenous wisdom keepers wisdom teachings, rather it is the mask worn by a tour company owned and operated by Patricia Awyan, a former marketing executive and student of Mehler. She is an American woman who read Mehler's book and went on a tour to learn more from him before moving to Egypt and marrying into the family of the famous "wisdom keeper". Hakim's reputation as a "wisdom keeper" among small groups of Americans, may be traced back to 1978 when the Grateful Dead performed in Egypt. Their publicist met Hakim and came back to the states spreading the word about this local Egyptian guide, who was more recently popularized by the documentary film, The Pyramid Code. Take this film with more than a single grain of salt.The film's Candian producer claimed that the local Egyptians refer to Giza as "The Band of Peace", yet I don't know a single Egyptian who refers to it as such. In the last decade or so, The Khemit School has been popularized by youtube channels like Brien Foerster and now Bright Insight, who turn the camera on and either blindly (or worse, knowingly) echo this false narrative that they have been told by Khemit School members. Sadly, many people are fooled by this. They claim that the local indigenous Egyptians have their own stories about ancient Egypt, which are radically different from Egyptology and that the locals call the ancient Egyptians, "Khemitians". The only local Egyptians who claim this are those involved with Khemit School. I know many local Egyptians from Alexandria to Aswan and not a single one of them (outside of the Khemit School and their proponents) refer to the ancient Egyptians as "Khemitians". Khemit School teaches that Khemitians were the harmonious people who lived before the dynastic Egyptians. Although Mehler claims to have studied Egyptology, this demonstates his lack of awareness for predynastic cultures such as the Buto-Maadi and Naqada cultures that exisited in Egypt BEFORE the dynastic Egyptians. The term "Khemitian" is another Mehlerism. His way of labeing as a means to attach himself to an idea without assuming responsbily of ownership. He can always excuse himself by saying "Because Hakim said so". Mehler is quick to label the ancients as Khemitians, the discipline as Khemitology and craft all these fake concepts based on so called teachings of Hakim, even though his guru, Hakim would preach against labeing things. Khemitology is a philosophy largely imagined by Mehler, built on false narratives and drawing from syntheized theories of authors who came before him such as Chris Dunn (who has also severed ties with Khemit School). They employ these ideas to sell books and tours. When I first notified John Anthony West of my intent to work with Khemit School, he forewarned me that Mehler was full of "pure lunacy" and told me Hakim is not to be trusted. West isnt alone in thought. I know many local Egyptians who feel the same way. Mehler tried to claim a 70,000+ year old Sphinx, backed up his fall back line' "because papa (Hakim) said so", but I have little doubt that he was contriving this specific number for the age of the Sphinx as a means to one up West (who believed the Sphinx could be as old as 30,000 years based on original research of Schwaller) to distinguish his book. West says 30,000 so Mehler needs to say at least 70,000. Khemit School is not based on indigenous teachings, its based on a hodge podge of other authors (mostly American and European) original theories and packaged as "indigenous teachings". They pretend to be the inheritors of ancient indigenous wisdom teachings as a means to appear to be demonstating some sort of higher value so they can sell books and solicit tours offering wisdom, when in fact, they lack it themselves. I found the Khemit School to be a toxic bunch who often contradict one another depsite being students of this tradition. I was physically assaulted by Stephen Mehler for questioning his narrative while on tour in Egypt. He pushed me and challenged me to a physical fight in front of a group of tourists who came to learn more about the so-called wisdom teachings, but what part of this ancient wisdom tradition teachings physical violance as a resolve? They Khemit School tried to immedtiately cover it up, which speaks volumes about their so called "wisdom teachings". When it comes to Egyptian tourism, I can't think of a bigger hoax. Don't believe the hype.
WOW my Friend, I didn't knew, reading your comment leaves me shocked!!! I'm heavily starting to have doubts about my beliefs that I had when I opened my group, since I subscribed to Dr Miano. So many bubbles have been destroyed since then and now this... wow I'm crushed and it's hard to fight my cognitive dissonance feelings! Thank you for your honesty my Friend!
This should be pinned. Thank you for your addition insights which complete the quality research of the video.
Whoa. I never really liked what he had to say, and didn’t know he was tied into the Kemit school like that. Isn’t Patricia married to Yousef? He seemed very genuine too.
When West considers you a loon you are in big trouble.
Thanks for adding this.
I'm a simple man. I see your video - I click immediately. Thanks again for the important work you do.
Ditto!
Simple, and really really unoriginal. LOL
Ditto as an interesting lady
Golly! Stephen Mehler must be a very persuasive person to get all that Ancient Knowledge from the people who had kept it secret for thousands of years!
He sounds very Joseph Smith-esque.
Dont ask dont get.
This reminds me of a seminar I had with Bridget Connelly in the Rhetoric Department at Cal around 1980. She researched an Iranian epic poem sustained in oral tradition in her anthro fieldwork. It was recited at weddings by paid performers-and found that the performers who recited from a memorized script were in less demand. The masters of the epic could weave the members of the wedding party into the verse on the fly, and improvise chapters shaped to the audience. Oral tradition can be a jazz art, an amalgam of history and literature, and in that context, the approach to storytelling by Hakim makes perfect sense.
This is what the Griots of Senegal do. The author of "Roots" relied heavily on the recitations of these griots.
pls Note: the ancient indian epics are in strict meter monumental works memorized.
when some idiot inserted crap - like the inflated Bhishma "lecture" to the pandavas and lord krishna at the end of the mahabhaharata war are easy to spot: on quality alone.
The Illiad, Odyssey, and Beowulf all had their start in similar ways.
You nailed it! When I studied literature I was taught what you've said. The first tales that were written down were no literature but only memory aides that provided basic frames for narrators. These narrators would never tell the story as written down but they would always interact with their audience. They would always improvise by extending or embellishing the basic stories in accordance to the taste of the audience on that day.
However, secret oral traditions that were only accessible for initiated people, are a different thing. We know that e.p. the Druids categorically refused to write their teachings down in order to remain in control over the distribution ot their content. Later, when burning witches became an established form of open air entertainment in Europe, knowledge was also passed down in only oral form because the posession of according writing could be used as proof for the practice of witchcraft.
So we have to distinguish popular folklore on one hand and exclusive secret knowledge on the other hand.
A tourguide, however, would due to his profession certainly tend more to folklore for uneducated, uninitiated strangers. He would also know better than anybody else what to tell tourists and what to tell only intiates.
Out of curiosity, what was the epic poem called?
David, your patience in dealing with the hogwash-ologists is greatly appreciated. Thanks.
I adore that term! Hogwash-ologists, indeed!
From across the pond, we can't help but admire the incredible creativity of American businessmen (and women). In the UK, we've never quite mastered the art of combining religion and capitalism is such a profitable form.
There's a reason many fairytales & folktales begin with "Once upon a time" & aren't specific about dates, character names or even the names of the towns/countries the story takes place in. It's usually "the woods" or "the desert" or "by the river" "in the mountains" with castles, towers, roads & bridges etc added as necesarry. And the characters are usually just a Prince, Princess, Lady, Lord, Farmer, Maiden, Fisherman, Hunter, etc. Very rarely do you get full names of anybody, you mainly get their occupation/social status (possibly a common or generic first name) This formula works for many reasons. It's flexible for one, allowing the storyteller to customize. It's also very inclusive since it's the theme & not the characters that are most often important in oral storytelling so it's adaptable across different cultures/languages. Even now with modern technology, we still adapt & retell certain stories over & over again. Shakespeare did it & Hollywood loves doing it lol. It's human nature. We like stories. Stories are great, I love mythology & folklore & fairytales & what they say about human culture. I love scifi & fantasy & horror too for the same reason. But stories & conjecture aren't evidence or serious scholarship when it comes to actual history. I think some of these Alt Hist- Mystics forget that sometimes.
I know the people and the argument are separate but I can’t help feeling that some of them know they are running a grift. I’m glad channels like this exist to stop genuinely interested layman like myself from being hoodwinked.
For sure, there are no scams without scammers or frauds without fraudsters.
A grift or a cult, which I guess can be pretty similar
thank you for doing a debunking on khemitology, please keep doing more. the truth really needs to get outthere
Everyone who delves into ancient history should know. TH-cam content creators have a comment "hide" option. They can review a comment and "hide" it. That means the comment is seen only by the poster but hidden from everyone else.
The proponents of Lost Ancient High Technology use this to keep well reasoned arguments from being seen by their followers; most noteable Bright Insight, Graham Hancock, Ben from UnchartedX, and Brian Forrester, plus others.
Then they have the nerve to claim the "mainstream" academia is hiding something from you.
Responsible content creators allow all comments to be posted.
These guys do what they do to make money off books, TH-cam clicks, and tours, not providing acurate information.
Do you have evidence of this? What’s the say that all content creator don’t have access and use this feature?
Excellent work as always.
I'm finishing up the Great Courses Lecture series The History of Ancient Egypt by Professor Bob Brier, and it occurs to me as a waning fan of Alternate History that these self-styled researchers are (maybe intentionally) exclusively reading and arguing with 19th century historians. It's almost like the topic of world history and any attempt at a Great Unified Theory thereof has the task of mastering and synthesizing uncountable fields of knowledge - It's little wonder answering the unanswered mysteries of nearly two centuries ago is so appealing to a certain kind of person: if you lack the rigor to educate yourself on modern scholarship - the task of a lifetime - you can count on your peers to be impressed because of their simultaneous lack.
We, the Public, have been taught that anyone with the authority to publish must be speaking the Truth because there have to be some kind of checks and balances in the publishing industry, right? Right - but what passes those checks and evens those balances is what will sell; and unverifiable claims will always sell better than the Truth.
Thank you for what you do. You are a companion piece to any education. The skills you give your audience aren't only useful in skeptically thinking about the past and claims made about it. My girlfriend thinks you're my culture hero. So... yeah. Thank you.
Used to be free. Watched that series many times.
For me, it's a simple numbers game. What are the odds that 100% of the archeologists and scholars (who devote their lives to unearthing and studying history) have missed 100% of this "lost evidence?"
Far too simplistic a thought process. At one time 100% of people thought it was impossible to sail the oceans - now we can not only sail but fly over them. Greeks thought everything was made up of the 4 elements - where are we now with that one? Hopefully you get the point.
I am not advocating for one side nor the other, I just think being a little more open minded to possibility rather than just taking the current paradigm at face value is a more rounded approach.
The derision in the narrator's voice at times and softly spoken positivity at others is just clear evidence of bias. The world is not black and white but subjects like these seem to be extremely polarised.
Max Planck was famously quoted as saying science porgreesses one funeral at a time. I believe this can be applied to other fields of knowledge.
@@doctormarazanvose4373 "At one time 100% of people thought it was impossible to sail the oceans" ... what time would that have been?
@@hartmutholzgraefe 2:37pm on a sunny afternoon - didn't you get the memo?
It's not just numbers, there's a difference between methodology. Archaeologists follow the science method, a hypothesis must be underpinned by proof, theories should be published and discussed, a community should judge them based on a set of well defined criteria, etc. etc. If new evidence is found, theories are revised. This is called science because of the open, logical, evidence based method that has been proven to be effective millions of times.
"Khemitology", on the other hand, is at best, a misguided dilettante potpourri of cherry picked BS sources to form yet another "only my cult knows the truth, which the entire world tries to hide from you, and I prove it by quoting some mystical texts and zero hard evidence". At worst, as we see, it ended up as a merchandise selling con. There's no method, there's no system, there's no sound hypothesis, that could be underpinned - only a fairy tale.
I used to be a big follower of Zachariah Sitchin. Dr. Mike Heiser was the instrumental channel from which I began to research history and think for myself. It was recently I discovered Dr.Miano and I am so thrilled and happy to have his knowledge on TH-cam. Finally after many years experts are beginning to debunk these modern day carpet baggers.
Yeah, I was right there too, in the late eighties and early nineties. Z. Sitchin and Erik Van Danniken and the ancient alien hypothesis. I was able to think my way out of it by '98, before I even got a computer. I was shocked and appalled when I saw a little bit of an episode of Ancient Aliens by chance. I didn't turn out to be very popular with the fans of this series when I posed questions that thay couldn't answer and demonstrated that I knew more about the topic than they ( including the part about it being total bat guano, and the guys pushing it were grifters ).
I watched Heiser's debunk of AA hypothesis video. A lot of good info. I am wary, though, being that he is some stripe of Christian who expertly deconstructs alt-history claims, but seems to tell his Christian audiences not to use critical thinking skills when evaluating religious claims...sort of "believe the unsupported if it fits your religious assumptions. But challenge anything that contradicts your indoctrination".
@@russellmillar7132 Yeah, that tends to be the fault of most great thinkers who are religious.
Another good example is Rabbi Tovia Singer. He can scientifically dissect the New Testament to show all the faults with the text and Christian beliefs.
But then he'll resort to "For the Bible tells me so" when defending Old Testament stories that can't possibly be true.
@@russellmillar7132 yep, I fell into the Von Daniken rabbit hole for a bit way back in the late 70s - early 80s, too. Then again, I was only a preteen/teenager, then, as well. I managed to think my way out of it, too. Did have a handy little library in town that I spent a lot of time in, looking stuff up, which isn't nearly as easy as using a computer, so a lot of people wouldn't have done it.
I suspect that's how conspiracy theorists were born, back then... no easy source of information. Today, we can use our favorite search engine (mine's Ecosia, BTW, not Google) to look stuff up. That's a whole lot easier than asking my my librarian to have a book moved from another library to that one, so I could read it. 😄
@@MaryAnnNytowl I actually credit my dip into this stuff with my present passion for scientific research, ancient history, archaeology, and anthropology. When I realized that I had been duped because of my lack of knowledge of the basics of modern science, it motivated me to change that.
It was at a library, while searching for more ancient alien stuff, that I found a small book that was titled something like: " three scientists respond to the ancient astronaut hypothesis ".
An astronomer, an archaeologist, and an anthropologist took turns siting very practical and compelling reasons not to put faith in these stories. I'm sure none of the writers of this little book made much money from it, as contrasted to the millions harvested by ZS and EVD and others from their worshipers. To me it was priceless.
@@MaryAnnNytowl fully agree with you on that. 😊. Did exactly the same when I was 14yrs old back when Chariot of the Gods came out 🤦.
Now here's a question for everybody. How many of us used to while away the hours trying to find "lay lines" on maps? 🙄😂.
Man I love these. I can't believe how much this despicable rubbish has been spread around by these people on the discovery channel and youtube.
Seriously man thank you for doing your best to straighten this all out.
Since Mehler's assertion that the society was matrilineal, why was the secret passed to a man? Great video. Keep up the good science.
Well damn, there's the last nail in this mummy's coffin innit? I was fine with the 6500 years of oral traditions thing. I mean, whats so unusual about the oral distillation of 2250 generations of all tribes of Earth (?) being passed down to one person (and zero others)? But now you're telling me that the only way for this to be credible is that Hakim is a trans man. Sure, okay...I'm good with it.
@@russellmillar7132 65,000
@@jamisojo Oh, yeah, that makes it even more believable, right.
This is a really interesting video. I remember being younger and watching history channel shows such as ancient aliens and not being sure what to make of them. But seeing videos such as this is for me like looking at something in the clear light of day. I have enjoyed what this channel produces for some time now. Congrats, professor Miano on the good work!
I completely agree. Years ago I used to watch shows like ancient aliens listen to Graham Hancock's lectures I've seen him on Joe Rogan podcast and others. It was admittedly fun to entertain those fantasies possibilities although I wasn't really quite convinced of it all. But then you get real scientists like this to tell you the facts and this is so much better. Although it is totally ruined my interest in listening to Graham Hancock lectures cuz now I can't even get into the fantasy. 😂
I am old enough to recall a pre computerised world but we still had books like Von Daniken's tissue of lies. I was conned at the time. But saw a debunk of each claim on tv. One regarding the stones supposedly painted in prehistory with accurate images of the heart et al convinced me of the veracity of the programme as I remembered seeing the Sunday Times magazine picture that the (then modern day) artist was still using to paint the stones. He was not selling them as ancient artefacts but just as painted stones. He recalled Von Daniken buying some.
The worst is now that awful Gaia channel. 🙄
@@helenamcginty4920same here. I was probably around 13 when I came across "Chariots of the Gods" (it seems intentional that Hancock echoes that title).
This was pre-internet, but I actually did do my own research at the nearby library and eventually pieced together that it was a hoax.
One might have imagined that the accessibility of information on the Internet would hinder the spread of hoaxes & scams, but as Hancock and flat-earthers and young-earthers and "sovereign citizens*" and Q and so on have shown, misinformation and dezinformatsiya spread far more easily, as they are more lucrative for far less effort.
* They don't like being called that, now that the SOBCit hoax is well-known; they seem to prefer labels like: "natural man", "xxx state citizen", "freeloader upon the land", "(phony) Moorish American", et cetera ... Sorry for the long digression!
I initially read this as Kermitology and not Khemitology. I was like, "There's a pseudo archaeology conspiracy theory that involves Muppets in Egypt?" I just want to say I was sorely disappointed that there's not. 😅
start one yourself, and remember that rome wasn't real
but there is , there is , they ARE the muppets camouflaged but clearly recognisable.
Imagine how disappointed Miss Piggy was!
Ahh man, I love your channel but there was a time when I loved Mehler (and co')s ideas. So it's a bit sad but it (the debunking) had to be done in the name of truth! You do this all the time with your darn 'reason and logic' stuff! 🙂 I appreciate it though, thanks
Right? This channel is both informative and engaging! I just can't get enough.
BTW
Have you ever seen this sound debunking of the Ancient Alien hypothesis?
th-cam.com/video/j9w-i5oZqaQ/w-d-xo.html
Amazing how many times in difference circumstances the same list of quacks and hucksters come up: Blavatsky, Cayce, Sirius connections. Apart from all the stuff that just isn't true, and the particular type of energetic laziness (only follow up on things you like not things you don't like), there's still the attitude that if history was like that held by overwhelming academic consensus (i.e., base on huge amounts of evidence and not tendentious piles of assertions), then it's just not interesting enough. We have to jazz it up, find magic powers, alien connections, missing ancient civilizations.
What an excellent coverage of a complicated subject! Oral histories do tend to driftt, over time, true, and they often reflect the mores and beliefs of the teller as much as the group the story is about.
And then there's people like this guy... seeming to be a straight-up grifter. And you even handled that part delicately as well as clearly. Thank you for the things you do, Dr. Miano! ❤️ ❤️
In Finland we had similarly controversial and infamous character who claimed he had a key to story from over 10 000 years ago.
(His name was Ior Bock and the story is called Bock saga if anyone is wondering).
He claimed his family first taught a key/ memory map to that story so it will be told same way every time to prevent it changing over time.
He also claimed that the key to that story is hidden into speech and words have another meaning to what they mean today. Many similarities to Mr. Mehlers story (or his intepretation of khemit stories)
It's very hard if not impossible to prove the story to be true or untrue.
Love your channel sir. I've noticed a similarity between people that believe well, crazy stuff. They start off looking for something that they believe or already "know" and then amazingly enough they magically find exactly what they thought or were looking for. Mostly by saying scientists or historians don't understand something when 98% of the time they do. The person just refuses to accept what they decided. Or they just make stuff up full stop. Thanks again for your work have a great day.
yeah very "repu" of them.
no new data input allowed.
evidence triggers furious anger and physical aggression.
That would be confirmation bias! Completely agree. You'll find the answer you want if you look for it.
Not only do they find evidence to support their theories but they steadfastly ignore anything that doesn't. I blame Von Daniken; he started all this nonsense.
Your work always cheers me up. I really enjoy your attention to detail and to scholarship in these dives into "alternative" history. Thank you.
Very happy a new video is out, Ill definitely be watching the whole ads without skipping!
Thank you for taking the time to parse through this man's Mystical beliefs, with patience & humor, to inform the public about our shared human history. There's no need to make anything up, it's all quite fascinating on its own!!! 💙 Excellent video as usual Dr Miano!
Shared human history is the key phrase
Thanks for adding the SASA bit near the end, I always end up missing those events but not this time! Also much thanks for all the work you do on these videos, your time is greatly appreciated and your knowledge is refreshing when dealing with the alternative historian bunch.
Hear, hear! Well said!
Fantastic video David, as always you have done the prober research, and use your great rhetoric speak and teaching skills, to learn other be more critical and informed on subjects like these!
Keep up the good work! 😊
~31:00 Perhaps it shouldn't be a surprise given everything else he makes up, but he's also giving some incorrect terms/definitions here. Pr-Aa is indeed the etymology of "Pharaoh," but it should be noted that the term didn't refer to an individual in Egypt, it referred to the institution of the royal palace - it's a bit like how we might refer to the British Monarchy as "The Crown," but that's not the actual title of the monarch. The king himself was known by the title of "Nswt-bjtj," meaning "One of the Sedge and the Bee," with the sedge and bee being symbols of Upper and Lower Egypt, respectively, making the term essentially "King of Upper and Lower Egypt". I'll also note that "High" is an unusual translation of Aa; it makes sense, but typically the term is translated as "great," and there's an entirely different term that literally translates as "high."
Next on the list is "Per Ke," defined as "Tomb," and while there are many terms in Middle Egyptian referring to Tombs, I've never seen this one; the closest thing I can think of would be pr-kA, which would mean "House of Ka," or the spirit, but while that would make sense as a term for a tomb, the closest I've seen is hwt-kA, which has the same literal translation but refers to a chapel in a tomb or temple. The only term for tomb I know of which begins with pr is pr n nHH, literally "house of eternity."
Next is "Per-Be," defined as "Temple," but while this is another word with multiple Egyptian translations, this is another I've never seen, and the closest word I can think of to "Be" would be bA, which refers to another part of the human soul... doesn't make much sense for a Temple. In contrast, the final term on the list would make sense for a temple; "Per-Neter" sounds quite close to pr-nTr, which would be pronounced with a "Ch" sound rather than a "T," but is otherwise similar. While I've once again never seen this variation, the literal translation of "House of God" matches the translation of hwt-nTr, an actual Egyptian term commonly used for Temples.
Of course, this term is not used, as he suggests, for pyramids; pyramids were typically called the very different terms of mr and Axt, the former just meaning pyramid, and the latter literally meaning "horizon," a term commonly used for tombs in general (and in the case of Pyramids, rendered with a distinct Pyramid determinative). The term "Pyramid" itself is potentially of Egyptian origin, either from pr-m-ws or pr-mr-ws - but rather than the "pr" in these cases being "per" for house, they are "peri" meaning "to go forth" or "to ascend." These proposed etymologies are figuratively translated as "The Height of a Pyramid," and literally translated as "to go up - from - lack" and "to go up - Pyramid - lack" respectively, with ws, "lack" being inferred from context to refer to a crack or line used as a reference point to measure height.
Also, he implies that Champollion used the Greek understanding of Hieroglyphs to develop his own; this is false, Champollion was one of the first Egyptologists to reject the Greek understanding of how Hieroglyphs worked, and he developed his own understanding of Hieroglyphs based on his fluent knowledge of the Coptic language. I have two videos about how hieroglyphs were deciphered on my channel, with the second focusing on Champollion specifically, if anyone is interested.
NSWT (Nesuht) refers to the Priest-King, the Spiritual leader and role model of the people as The Great Black. This goes beyond such superficial aspects of skin color into the role of melanin in consciousness and further to the "triple blackness of Space"; the Darkness where Deity dwells- carbon, the basis of organic life - melanin. Suht became soot.
2 thoughts re oral tradition.
1. My parents used to relate their tales of their 1920s childhoods and their WWll experiences to us as kids. My siblings recall very little of these. I loved reading and stories in general and was the oldest which possibly explains why I remember so much. Perhaps my being just that little bit older helped.
They also related these same stories to my son as we lived with them till he was 12. Ask each of us to relate a story and while they are basically the same we each recall bits the other doesnt. I heard my parents relate the stories and recall them as being the same I had heard. But my son was also interested in history so recalls more accurately the dates of certain occurrences they both related about their times fighting on the S Coast. My dad at hell fire corner and my mum all along the coast as a radar operator.
2. I heard a radio (bbc probably world service) interview with a young African Griot.
He said that his version of the stories as passed to him from his grandfather differed slightly. Not in the main thrust of the re telling but each Griot would add little changes or embellishments along the way.
This to me accords with what literature teachers have long argued. Eg that the story of the Iliad surely contains some element of a historical event but the names of individuals and individual battles will be likely coloured by the societal norms of those who finally wrote the story down.
Ok...ok, maybe we need a rule about this. Let me try to hammer out at least a preliminary one:
"If you are claiming to have received secret or special knowledge about a non-European civilization, you can't just cite a bunch of Europeans and Americans (and maybe an occasional Canadian) as your source. Have at least SOME sources from people from that civilization."
If I find hidden mystical knowledge about Shinto, I better quote at least a couple books written by Japanese folks - if that list is nothing but Andersons and Moores and McGillicuddys then clearly something is up.
I have met many young Egyptian tour guides. They all are very experienced, having done it for several years. They all have done a special tourist guide course that includes Egyptian history for a few years. I have not noticed any great knowledge of Egyptian history from them, but they do a good job. I am sure that older tour guides did not have to do this course.
you are answering all the questions i had and thought to have found in the ancient high technology stuff. You and Sacred Geometry Decoded! THANKS!
Interesting...I was in Egypt in early 1989. The tour guide we had on our bus trip to Cairo and Giza was good. She didn't make a big deal of anything, just told us what we were seeing. If she'd played things up, I'd have been very annoyed. I just wish I'd had more time to look at things, and a lot more film. We went to the museum, and the Giza necropolis...which is so close to town it isn't funny. Everyone always makes their pictures look like it's way out in the desert or something, but the shops start only a couple hundred yards from the sphinx. If I hadn't been so short on film, I'd have taken some pictures to show how close it is.
Love you work. I had no idea this was a thing. I am always excited to learn more about the BC world, but I want true hard evidence not fanciful ideas without substance. As always, Thank You for clear facts and a bit of entertainment as you straighten out the wrinkles in theory ❤😊
Who else read "Kermitology" and thought of the Muppets?
As I said over on the Patreon, fantastic video as always. I can't wait for the next video!
All I'll say about oral tradition, is that all it takes to change a true historical event told orally, is a change in the meaning of words or a slightly different word used once by one person to change it forever.
Excellent. I had been wondering about the history of this "group". Thank you.
Actually in Arabic, Al-keemyá' الكيمياء refers to Chemistry, while Al-kheemyá' الخيمياء refers to alchemy. However, I don't ever recall in Arabic literature that Egypt was called anything closer to such names. Egypt around the beginning of the conquest and for some time afterward was called Al-Fustát الفُسطاط (and one can argue that Fustát means "tent" which is also خيمة Khayma in Arabic, but still it was known as Al-Fustát and not Al-Khayma, and Al-Fustát doesn't exactly mean "tent" per se) - the reason for that was in reference to the camp that was first established and the main tent was held as a headquarter for managing the armies. A later name (sometimes used still in media for poetic purposes) is Ardh Al-Kinánah أرض الكنانة (land of the quiver) - it is a figurative name given to Egypt at some point for the abundance of palm trees and other crops which made the land look like a quiver of arrows (arrows being protruding out of the ground, that is the plants and trees). However, never ever I've heard anyone call Egypt in Arabic as Al-Khem الخيم. To add, maybe at some point it was called بلاد الأقباط Biladu-l-Aqbát (land of the Copts), and in modern day, whenever we say a person is قبطي (Qibtiy) in Arabic, generally we mean that he is a Christian Egyptian person. Again, nothing like Al-Khem.
And about that claim that Al-Awyan, means "eye" and derived from the "eye of Horus" - boy, Mehler is about to meet lot of Horus descendants in the Arab world (this is IF the name is derived from the word Ayn عين meaning "Eye" in Arabic, I can't judge it unless I see it written in Arabic). Many family names (and for various reasons) in the Arab world are related/derived from this word alone.
When they say "keeper" I think they are either intentionally or unintentionally exaggerating the translation of the word Háris حارس in Arabic, which can be translated as "keeper" or "guardian". Apparently Hakim is a Saidi (صعيدي) from his looks, and Saidis are commonly picked (in Egypt and elsewhere) to be keepers and guardians for places and gates and so on, and now in modern times even, security guys (at least where I live they are also majorly Saidis but in uniform and not like in the old days wearing traditional clothing, Jallabiyyah/Gallabiyyah) - they would be also called حارس (keeper, or guardian). It seems they played well on that term and puffed it up.
I'm really wondering about those guys who make up such fantastical stories, like, why don't you guys try your hands with sci-fi novels and cartoons (not sarcastic, I'm serious really) - I really do think you can make out money out of such works of art and entertainment rather than going around making yourselves a laughing stock. At least you would be called "an artist" and not a "fraud".
I'm new to your channel,i love history and its refreshing to find a really informative channel, thank you
Thank you, and welcome!
Thank you for your work. Many people are being led astray about both history and matters of spirituality. It’s very unfortunate.
Great video exposing this scam! I was pulled into this Khemit crap a few years ago watching some cool videos on Egypt. But after watching enough videos i learned it was just crap.
This story lines up exactly with Mokele Mbembe. A creationist sought proof that humans lived with dinosaurs and he traveled to the Congo. Lo and behold, he IMMEDIATELY found people who confirmed the story with tons of references in their oral traditions. Trey the Explainer has a video about it. Interesting to see all the same grifts in different fields.
I got it confused! It's the Ropen in Papua New Guinea that is the creationist... the mokele mbembe story is more varied. Both stories relate very well to this video tho.
I know what I'm watching next
This is still my one and only channel I support through patreon
Oh I thought you said Kermitology, which is the academic study of the ancient Muppet Dynasty.
Fascinating video with a bunch of excellent information. I learned a lot!
Great channel and thank you, you and your channel have really grown on me now . I love the myths of ancient history playlist. You are great educator with a brilliant inspiring passion for what you do.
Thank you!
Thank you for this great video!
Finally some debunking of Khemitology. Coincidentally, I am in the midst of taking a deep dive into the khemitology lore at the moment. Of all the „alternative theories“ this might actually be my favorite one. It’s just too crazy.
(Apologies for the following wall of text)
First off: Gigantical mistake by Mehler at 33:48 „…»Neter« is actually where the Greek word »nature« comes from…“ »Nature« isn’t Greek, it’s Latin. (Same mistake in Land of Osiris, p. 48)
Anyway, so far I have read both of Mehlers books. They interlink in an interesting way that seems to back up the interpretation by Anyextee. It seems as if Mehler wants to create a holistic philosophy for his own niche in the esoteric community. "Land of Osiris" covers his view of the history of men and bears (at least some) resemblance to a somewhat scientific text. And I think it is on purpose. It's for attracting the alternative history crowd and for pointing out to some physical "proof" for his actual philosophy. "From Light into Darkness" on the other hand presents the metaphysical underpinnings (Mehlers actual philosophy) and seems to be the book for building a fellowship in the esoteric community. Hakim as the Guru & Mehler as his prophet. Here Mehler also comes up with a second and very creative way to make his arguments non-falsifiable: Whenever he wants to evade necessity for proof he simply states that some things just cannot be expressed in words or even be written down. Occasionally backed up, of course, by a classical "Hakim said so, too". Below the surface of his ancient-khemit magic sauce however, he presents a very very average (and boring) esoteric worldview. Secret societies are everywhere, everything is one, everything is harmony & love, everything is vibration, the elites know the truth but hide it, yada yada yada...
One thing that struck me is him referencing Savitri Devi (from Light into Darkness, p.105). The woman who (even after 1945) celebrated Hitler as a divine incarnation.
As to Hakim it is very difficult to find anything reliable about him.
Interestingly, there seem to be almost no accounts of Hakim that are truly independent of Mehler and his crowd. There are occasional references (also mostly made by Mehler) to a book Hakim is said to have coauthored with a "Karena Bryan". Despite having searched for it for weeks, I was not able to find any trace of it and I have serious doubts that it even exists. Also, even if Hakim is presented as a former academic and egyptologist I have not been able to find a single publication or even a mention of him anywhere in academic contexts. And from your video, I'm guessing you don't either.
One time I very briefly thought I had found an independent account about Hakim through German conspiracy author Stefan Erdmann. But (almost like magic) also here Mehlers name popped up almost immediately.
There is a website of a „khemit shop“ that seems to be connected to the khemit school. Here it is stated that apart from being a tour guide Hakim used to run a souvenir shop in the late 1970s near the pyramids. Perhaps he did this until the 1990s, when he met Mehler and saw his chance of setting himself appart from all the other guides and vendors at Gizeh and becoming a part of the new business of not-so-ancient khemit.
Another interesting observation: Until very recently Stephen Mehlers Blog was linked on the khemitology website as friend. Since about May/June 2022 this is no longer the case. Maybe there are some things going behind the scenes?
That book was never published. Karena is real though, and I have recently been in contact with her. She does not have a high opinion of Mehler.
Thanks for you work Dr Miano, you helped me to realise what con artists those guys are. I never believed them but I was giving them way to much credit. I love your rebutal, it's brilliant and humble. Most people would be much more boombastic in their rebutals but you do it, calmly and with class and style. Sir I thank you for the great service you have done us with this and your other works.
I don't know about these guys, but I would recommend Kermitology for anyone interested in the many ways that existing in the color green can be burdensome.
It’s not easy
I'm glad you treated oral history with more respect than most! You rightfully noted that oral history is not always passed down as in the error-prone "telephone game" format. Dr. Ken Bailey, who taught theology in Beirut Lebanon, had noted in his research that oral history that in the Beqaa Valley of Lebanon the oral tradition was generally shared communally. Someone telling a story would be stopped and corrected by others, the correction would be agreed on, and the corrected part would be repeated throughout the crowd. The one who initially made the correction would then take up the story-telling from that point. Could errors be made in this system? Yes. But this type of oral tradition makes it less likely.
My dyslexic mind read the title card as Kermitology and I wondered for a moment what a Muppet had to do with egyptian tourism.
My mind likes the way your mind thinks, and I am now imagining the _Moon Knight_ series re-shot using muppets. Kermit as the long-suffering Stephen Grant/Mark Spector/Jake Lockley is too perfect.
Hi Dr Miano, could you please do a video on how Ancient Egyptians dated events in the past for their contemporaries? In modern times we know about the king list and it’s used to date events comparatively with our Gregorian BCE equivalent, but how did someone in, say, Tutankhamun’s reign know the year of something that happened in the reign of one of the pharaohs of the 12th dynasty, and how many years previous it was without having to add up the intervening reigns every time? Saying ‘year x of y’s reign’ doesn’t give a reliable time span.
I hope that makes sense. Would love to hear your thoughts and knowledge about this. 😊
I second this
I don't even blame the people scamming these tourists
They were going to go there to find mystical magical versions of Egypt that somehow conform to their 21st century American worldview whether someone local gets paid or not, so may as well get paid.
Ok cynicism aside obviously this causes enormous damage to the field of knowledge but look, facts aren't created equally and we don't particularly live in a fact-based society anymore. More importantly Asimov's complaint that our outlook makes the ignorant claim their stupidity is just as good as actual knowledge is, in fact, correct.
Most Egyptians whose job has them interacting with goofy tourists will tell them exactly what they want to hear. They’ll tell you a pocket sculpture they carved yesterday is proof of your crazy theory, and it’s only $50. Like you said, you can’t blame them for hustling
It's depressing to those of us cursed to actually care about this stuff.
Love your videos!! just a quick question regarding the oral traditions: I have heard that over time we have come to understand oral tradition to be somewhat less variable across generations than previously thought. Essentially, that because oral tradition was the primary, or only, tool of transmission the precise memorization was essential. Is this supported by recent oral history studies or a product of movements such as these that aim to provide alternative histories?
If a culture implements precise memorization into their retellings, that would make their tradition less susceptible to change, but precise memorization is not an essential characteristic of oral tradition. Anyway, what I shared in the video is from up-to-date oral history studies.
@@WorldofAntiquity I see! That makes sense thank you! I see now it would be reductive to assume all oral traditions followed the same parameters, or practices.
The Egyptian Ministries of Antiquities and Tourism are a disgrace.
A concerned Egyptian citizen.
I remember an interview with Mehler on CoasttocoastAM where he was talking about how he believed all the races of humans each came from a different planet. Pretty much lost any credibility there.
That also completely contradicts his claim of them all coming from Africa, which was a huge red flag for me.
Copied from blavatsky
With his temporary focus on the number 42 I can't help but imagine that he added a part of hitchhiker's guide to his B. S.
Thank you for this.
I am a polytheist pagan person who uses a lot of ancient Egyptian ideas and sources for my personal worship and spirituality.
I also studied Egyptology at university, in the very old-fashioned "mainstream academia" way.
I have never once come across any instance of Egyptologists trying to ignore, cover up or misrepresent any old mythical truths. Just the opposite: I have met lots of people who love this ancient culture and language and are doing their absolute best to figure out how the Egyptians saw their world.
An excellent video as always. Keep up the good work 👍
THANK YOU for going into the (un)reliability of oral tradition. Too many people have the romantic idea that oral tradition is vastly more accurate and long-lasting than written tradition. It leads to people believing the strangest things because they were passed down orally, so they must be right.
Speaking as a german who has been a tour guide as a student: I learned a lot of facts about the castle and old town as well as all kinds of legends. And I got a script. Now, I mostly kept to the script but just as an example: I also told a school class a lot about the white lady legend and mixed in other legends about white ladies from other stories that weren't local. The white lady is a very popular ghost story that appeared everywhere in Europe around the same time - which I didn't mention because it was a group of twelve to thirteen year old tweens that loved ghost stories. Having a ghost was just fashionable back then I guess. But quite a few kids left that castle convinced that there was a white lady ghost.
They were entertained and had learned quite a few facts aside from the ghost stories. And tour guides entertain, they don't educate.
So do I believe that egyptian tour guides tell a lot of legends and stories that entertain, too? Obviously!
My brother in law is from Al Minya Egypt and he told me that most not all the tour guides at the pyramids are all about making money and if that means convincing a tourist they are Osiris himself that's what they'll do
Yes. Competition for tourism can be rough. So you "tell the customer what they want to hear" sometimes. People should remember that these guides represent people who are simply in a franchise - much as say parking valets etc.. A person who parks your car is not a race car driver by trade. They may simply be someone who knew someone who knew someone who got them that position - possibly by graft. So this is not to say all tour guides represent disingenuous people. Merely that their knowledge may be limited and they want to be "popular" so as to hustle up clients and get tips.......... 🤫
Thanks yet again for another excellent and informative video Mr. Miano (Or do you prefer Professor? I'm from Sweden, and there we tend not to be very formal when trying to adress anyone personally - I hope you'll excuse my 'ambivalence'...?).
Just wanted to say something on the subject - as I am both very much interested in both (authentic) history, as well as (authentic) Ancient Wisdom-Teachings, such as Daoism, Buddhism, Platonism, Pythagoreanism (and the 'Neo'-versions of those) as well as Tantra for ex. (The ancient, Indian 'authentic one' - not the modern, perverted 'form' popular and popularized by Westerners. With sex as its main subject!). Anyway - I had actually never heard of this, so-called 'Khemit-school' before this video.
I can find it interesting and entertaining to hear about these 'perverted' so-called "Wisdom-Teachings" - even though I do not get interested in them though! ;-)
My search for wisdom-teachings started, by a chance-encounter with writings of the 'Theosophists' and Madame Blavatsky....but soon got rather disillusioned with that, as I found that they pretty much just plagiarized 'Holy Writings' from mainly Hinduism, Buddhism and Tantra - and mixed it all up with unverifiable & unfalsifiable claims of their own with an alleged "personal 'connection' with so-called ancient Buddhist 'Masters'". That was NOT good enough for me....I'ld much rather go to these sources for myself, thank you very much! ;-) (Maybe I'm just a 'strong-head', or maybe it's because I've ADD, or Aspergergs, I don't know?).
Anyhow, as well as I am aware at least - the 'modern' concept of this idea of so-called "Ancient Wisdom-Teaching Schools" all started at the close of the 19th century, with the Theosophists, 'Spiritualists', Aleister Crowley (The Wickedest Man in the World), Edgar Caysey (sp?) and the likes - who cherry-picked "Their Wisdom" primarily from 'Eastern & far-Eastern sources such as Hinduism, Daoism and Buddhism, and "blended it" up with so-called 'Neo-Ancient' "Teachings" from Europe such as Neo-Platonism, Hermeticism and different "Stone-Macon"-orders + put it all on a new 'costume' of language and wordings that would 'appeal' to Europeans and Americans.
All of them backed their claims on unfalsifiable ones, such as so-called "Clear-dreamings", 'mystical connections' with some unknown "Ancient Wisdom-Teachers", Clairvoyance, 'special "frequency"-crystals', and so on....
Just for the record, this doesn't mean I'm 'against' "Wisdom-Teachings"! Not at all - on the contrary: I am very much interested. But, in authentic, ancient ones - rather than the 'modern', artificially invented ones!
And, there are a lot of good ones out there: such as in Daoism, Buddhism, Hinduism, Platonism and so on....and sure - some of it may 'resonate' with your 'soul/psyche'. BUT - you cannot just put forward claims of it having an OBJECTIVE 'Truth'....That's not even how 'Mysticism' or 'Wisdom-Teachings' "works".
You are so patient.
I find European occultisn of the late 19th, early 20th centuries fascinating. The Order of the Golden Dawn influenced much literature. And I am glad to swap Aliester Crowley tales; he loved Egypt!
If I want to learn about Ancient Egypt I will check out real Egyptologists and Archaeologists...
"Hieroglyphs were translated wrong, because they were translated by a bunch of westerners." Say the westerner.
Who also based his ideas on western esotericists.
I am SO THANKFUL for this channel!
Gotta love these guys; When I was a kid and early teenager, I read all I could find by Lobsang Rampa, von Däniken, Besant, Atlantis... You very soon realize by yourself they don't use the scientific method and claim whatever they like.
I am always amazed by the BS some people are coming up with in order to sell some books and look important. Thanks to dr. Miano and others like him for taking the time to respond to these loonies, hopefully more people will start to use Reason and real science instead of half-baked believe based stories...
I'm more amazed that there are people who believe it lol
I've noticed that during covid, a lot of woo nonsense seemed to exponentially increase on youtube. The "dO your oWn research" types seemed to increase as well since the so called 'post truth' movement took off. Add in an unhealthy total disregard for the sciences (anti establishment) and you get what we have today. An increase in the village idiot population and a false sense of community and scale, based on the grouping algorithm. I'm not saying that people are more inclined to silly views. But they are definitely more confident in espousing them.
I expected the other, OTHER version of "kemetism", which is a different black supremacist pseudohistory. I find it fascinating that Egypt and Mesoamerica attract so many of these nuts, whereas China seems remarkably untouched. Perhaps because China is seen as intact, whereas Egypt and Mesoamerica are seen as historically fragmented?
Egypt just gets so much more attention, by both mainstream & alternative media.
india attracts the dhira: the sober.
The fragmentation is a large part of it. Past civilizations are easier to romanticize than living cultures.
China and Japan have thriving traditions of spiritual movements, magic, and straight-up huckster woo, which were greeted enthusiastically by the West. Chinese pseudomedicine is practically mainstream, tai chi is taught at every community center, and Chinese mysticism is so common that most people don’t notice that the Jedi are Hong Kong Cinema-style Taoists. But the Chinese are hard to romanticize in the same freehanded way we romanticize Egypt and Mesoamerica because the Chinese are in control of themselves and their image, and because the gritty reality of modern China is hard to ignore.
this video is very intersting min 03:00 aprox, that is in china, a dolment atop a pyrramid.......th-cam.com/video/FpL5c3xRlEs/w-d-xo.html
china is full of pyramids, and yes they hide them...???...
At first sight I thought this was something about a Frank Oz creation, entertaining as always an excellent presentation David.
The old "I learned the real truth from the secret people" line. Oldest trick in the book.
So, a closer translation of 'pyramid' into Greek would be 'fire toilet'. I've had experiences like that after eating Indian food.
It would be amazing if there was a 65,000 year old Egyptian oral tradition, what wouldn't be amazing would be a single modern oral source interpreted through the lens of modern western mysticism. Religious scholars in several fields take oral tradition very seriously, for example Hindu recitations of the ancient Vedic poems which are estimated to date to about 1500-1000 BC. Firstly, we have both oral reciters and written manuscripts, the oral poems match up with the written texts, the oldest of which date to the end of the middle ages. So we can see they have been faithfully preserved for at least several hundred years by multiple lineages of reciters, which hints that there is a very strong and reliable reciting tradition. Vedic reciters learn the poems in multiple forms: as whole poems, as arbitrary chunks of 10 lines, and each word in its uninflected form (these alternate recitations are preserved both orally and in manuscripts). These multiple versions ensure the poems stay the same as the words need to be remembered precisely in forms that hide the semantic meaning. If you know what a text means you're more likely to substitute equivalent words or repeat the gist of it. But learning the exact syllables means you won't do this.
Most importantly, linguists can see that the language preserved in the Vedic poems retains a language much older than any modern Indian language, or even the classical Sanskrit used for scholarly works when the medieval manuscripts were written. Archaic meanings include the use of 'asura' as meaning 'lord' (e.g. the god Indra is called an 'asura'), in common with the related language of Avestan where 'ahura' also means 'lord' (used for the god Ahura Mazda), but in classical Sanskrit and modern Indian languages, an 'asura' is an anti-god or demon, because the meaning evolved over time. There are many more technical examples that I don't have the expertise to explain.
A great overview is provided in the introduction to Stephanie Jameson and James Brereton's translation of the Rig Veda, published 2013 by Oxford University Press.
THAT is an example of an ancient oral tradition that can be verified!
The existence of the written record invalidates the idea of a purely oral tradition as it permits refreshment over time. The preservation of phonemes by sound rather than word meaning is an important point that was emphasized in my linguistics course. Credit was given to the Indian linguists whose methods preserved ancient language, and gave modern linguists [historical linguists primarily] these tools.
@@JMM33RanMA Good point about the written record but the conclusion of Sanskritists seems to be that it was exclusively transmitted orally until the middle ages and that oral recitation was the main method of transmission until modern times. Jamison and Brereton say this:
"Up to the creation of the recensions of the R̥gveda and long afterward, the transmission of the R̥gveda was oral. At some point, however, the R̥gvedic schools did produce manuscripts of the text. It is difficult to say when this occurred, but the transmission of the text likely remained exclusively oral at least until around 1000 ce . The oldest manuscript in the collection of the Bhandarkar Oriental Research Institute collection dates only to 1464; the Sampurnanand Sanskrit University in Varanasi has an older R̥gveda manuscript from the fourteenth century-thus a gap of considerably over two millennia between the fixation of the text and our earliest written evidence for it. Even when these activities did begin to occur, copying and preserving manuscripts never displaced memorization of the text as the primary means of transmission of the R̥gveda until quite modern times." [Jamison, S.W. and Brereton, J.P. (2014) The Rigveda, p 18]
Additionally, when compared, the oral versions sometimes appear to have superior variants indicating their independence, e.g. Shankar P. Pandit's edition of the Atharva Veda used transcripts from three oral reciters alongside manuscripts and found them preferable in some places. [Whitney, W.D. and Lanman, C.R. (ed.) (1905) Atharva-Veda Saṃhitā, pp lxvi-lxvii]
@@TheAbominater While "the oral versions sometimes appear to have superior variants..." the mere existence of "variants" indicates a degree of unreliability. In a game of "telephone" there are also variants, some of which have changed words but with a nearly intact meaning, while other variants may have a number of the same words but a changed or entirely different meaning. The "human fallibility factor" is very difficult to guard against.
@@JMM33RanMA There are always variants in the transmission of every text, oral or written, so of course there is never total reliability.
@@TheAbominater We are in agreement on that. However, scientific Bible scholarship has found numerous cases of a variety of types of errors in the writing from deliberate revisionism to scribe copying errors to mistranslation. Human error is potentially present wherever there are humans.
‘Oral tradition’ seems to be the biggest and oldest game of Chinese whispers ever played.
The pyramids are 12k years old purple monkey dishwasher.
You always have to wonder at the poor guide, sick of traipsing around with ignorant, spoilt, wealthy tourists - whose dreams all seemed to come true at once upon one chance meeting 🧐
Cracking video Dr 👍🤠
Great - please do something on the Australian aborigines, how they get there, their traditions and so on… that might be even more fun to hear than debunking weird people:)
I'm sure Dr. M. could do an adequate job of presenting current findings and known history. It's a little far afield for him, though, being that his area of specialization is ancient history, not prehistory.There are a ton of youtube vids on the topic. Some of them are woo, but mostly good information. A good one from NaturalHistoryDK titled: the genetic history of Aboriginal Australians.
Seams like Mehler is selling repackaged Orientalism, I hadn't heard of this one before so thanks for the warning Dr Miano!
Dude, add a subscribe reminder to the end of your videos as well. I've been watching your stuff a lot lately and this video was the first one i noticed the subscribe request and also the first time I did it.
"Written sources survives unaltered through time." That happens to be my favorite line from any oral tradition.. it's not written but the people trying to convince me of the age of a book always seem to repeat it.
Like 10mins into the video. All i can think of is "wtf is wrong with people"
I just started watching this clip. I'm gonna go out on a limb here and say the answer to your question is a resounding "no". Lol.
The photo of the woman looking all mystical while standing behind a carving of a baboon is just too perfect.
Not to be confused with Kemeticism - which is a Pagan religion reviving ancient Egyptian religious beliefs.
36:05 Wait ... amis means chamber pot? So we finally figured out the true purpose of the pyramids! Get ready for my new book "Chamberpots of the Gods". Anyone got the number of Däniken's publisher?
On a more serious note: Great video, as always. Keep up the good work! =)
and "pyr" means "fire" (in Greek)!
Hahahahahha, maybe the pyramids are the ...droppings of the gods?
No! This is clear evidence for *my* theory that ancient Egyptians invented spicy food and needed a series of heavily engineered cesspits (or fire chamber pots) to deal with the outcome!
hah! @@Lisa-se8do
It's so exciting to imagine we live in a Dan Brown or Tom Clancy novel but it's fanciful conspiracy. I really feel all these reaching consensus denying theories are tragically missing that the consensus is just as amazing and intriguing.
Great stuff, as always!
It always amazes me how people can just associate and pull "information" out of their rears and just decide, "Yes, this thing I just completely made up absolutely has to be true. Just because it feels right to me."
It is a way to make money. Some people have zero shame when it comes to making money, anything is permitted.
An awful lot of people confuse contrarianism with skepticism. Hence the distinction between 'mainstream' and 'alternative' and not 'expert' and 'layperson.' They're barely up the first hill of the Dunning-Kruger curve and rather be stuck there than 'sell-out and shill.' When you believe you're special and not a sheep, well, that's one hell of a drug to be on.
Esoteric studies seem to be based in the notion to attain the secret higher knowledge you must follow a none quantifiable science. The other aspect I did not enjoy going through madam Blavastky and Rudolf Steiner is they claim you cannot question their knowledge or how they attained it. You must accept it without asking questions.
it's always some kind of cult structure, insiders vs outsiders.
Great takedown of toxic scholarly malpractice, but my experience with spiritualists tends to be that these people do actually believe in their spiritual thing very fervently (edit: as no doubt some ancient Egyptian over their ancient religion). I am more completely amazed by the incredible revelations of modern archaeology giving us access to minute details of ancient Egyptian lives, virtual views of their ancient cities and so on. But yet there IS, in my view, an unbroken line of language in Egypt from ancient Egypt through the Hellenistic era and surviving today as Coptic, as a liturgical language (as well as an obvious substrate of Egyptian Arabic). (edit: the Egyptian word for Egypt is "Khemet", the Greek word is "Aegyptus", and the modern Arabic word is "Misr". Khemitology reminds me more of Kermit the Frog.)
If you wish to learn more about Khemet from actual scholars, I recommend Mfundishi Jhutyms, Bobby Hemmit, Dr, Kaba Kamene, Dr.Yosef Ben-Jochannan, Dr. Asa Hilliard, and Dr. John Henrik Clarke. There are many other African scholars, but this is a good start.
Make a video about Brightinsight claim of Nabatia not being built by the Nabataeans
Great work David!
Con-artistology is more accurate. These guys came to Australia and ‘authenticated’ hoax hieroglyphics at a place called Gympie. The person who runs UnchartedX has been totally taken in by their ridiculousness.
Other day a person was upset Ben called his ancestors American. Ben replied that his ancestors raped the stones from puma punku. Changed it eventually. I should have screen captured. He is a dick to people often.
I can appreciate some people in the alternative history camp trying to use actual rational lines of thought to prove their points, but with crap like this where the leaps in logic are so vast and the hypocrisy so apparent, it is frustrating
I’m, ah …. without speech (text) … I watched the video that you questioned. I was briefly a fan of stephens. I got hip to him through Robert bauval. I watched the pyramid code and with all their statements only about a third of the statements were traceable to any factual source. As a matter of fact after watching their whole gang I went to look for any African scholars, African Egyptologist to expound or further their ideas. I found none outside of hakim. It was then I started to question a lot of Stephen Mehler claims. Then they started the school and I gladly de boarded the crazy starship. They take actual facts and surround it with their ideas as if it magnifies the real fact. But if listening carefully they contradict themselves or say utter nonsense. Excellent video Dr. Miano. I’ll really enjoy rewatching this one.
A question for Dr Miano : What is your opinion about M. Dibombari M'BOCK ? He studies hieroglyphes with respect of today's african languages and symbolism. But can it be considered as scientifically based?
The understanding of symbolism is key to unlocking the secrets of the Mysteries!
Isn't this Yousef who travels with Brien Forrester also?
Yep
*Foerster
Yes, and the UnchartedX guy
Thanks David for another very informative video, I did know a little about Khemitology be what I have read it was something that I decided not to read about or include books about in my ancient egyptian library. I think I would agree that it is a hoax
Great vid...good work 👍
I wish I have this ability to debunk these pseudoscientific posts or material
You are the best I have come across in my experience ( of listening to videos on history, ) Sir