Gotham Knights Must Fix These Problems From The Batman Arkham Games

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  • Gotham Knights has the opportunity to fix a lot of issues that Batman Arkham made. The Batman Arkham series is incredible, but it wasn't perfect. WB Games Montreal has the opportunity to fix these issues and improve the Batman franchise going forward. #Batman #GothamKnights #BatmanArkham
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  • @DegenerateJay
    @DegenerateJay  3 ปีที่แล้ว +55

    If you haven't seen it in the description, here's Coby's channel! Really appreciate him coming out and helping with this video! Always a pleasure! th-cam.com/users/slcmof

    • @oscarreeh6387
      @oscarreeh6387 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      This looks too much like Avengers I’m scared

    • @lukeprief3023
      @lukeprief3023 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I wonder if instead of riddler trophies we would have owl trophies

  • @isbatman7651
    @isbatman7651 3 ปีที่แล้ว +468

    Plot Twist: The Joker is actually a member of the Court of Owls and has taken over the whole operation.
    And then you have a tank battle with him.

    • @adamconnor9138
      @adamconnor9138 3 ปีที่แล้ว +20

      Naturally

    • @adamconnor9138
      @adamconnor9138 3 ปีที่แล้ว +16

      It's just got to be a tank battle. It just has to

    • @borna1119
      @borna1119 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Qhahahahhahaag

    • @razamirza5841
      @razamirza5841 3 ปีที่แล้ว +26

      No not court of owls
      Court of joker

    • @razamirza5841
      @razamirza5841 3 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      @5j5j2 genius

  • @Arkhamman2023
    @Arkhamman2023 3 ปีที่แล้ว +668

    Here are ten things Gotham Knights should learn from the Arkham games
    1: No Riddler trophies
    2: No Riddler trophies
    3: No Riddler trophies
    4: No Riddler trophies
    5: No Riddler trophies
    6: No Riddler trophies
    7: No Riddler trophies
    8: No Riddler trophies
    9: No Riddler trophies
    10:No Riddler trophies

    • @TylerGcracker
      @TylerGcracker 3 ปีที่แล้ว +100

      Wait you forgot one think, No riddler trophies

    • @difference3maker36
      @difference3maker36 3 ปีที่แล้ว +95

      Cmon they weren’t that bad people over exaggerate the riddler I agree there tedious to collect but there rewarding and fun except Arkham city.

    • @Arkhamman2023
      @Arkhamman2023 3 ปีที่แล้ว +63

      @@difference3maker36 Riddler trophies should just be a separate thing to do rather than you having to actually collect it to beat the Riddler That's dumb. You like it? Good for you, but most of the Arkham community can agree with me that Riddler trophies suck ass.

    • @hasthehighground8560
      @hasthehighground8560 3 ปีที่แล้ว +32

      I never understood Riddler trophies,how the hell did riddler and his henchmen get these trophies in these places, it should have just been riddles with some trophies

    • @jusjeffrey
      @jusjeffrey 3 ปีที่แล้ว +18

      @@Arkhamman2023 Agree with the fact that you shouldn't have to collect all of them in order to get to the Riddler but I always found getting them pretty fun tbh

  • @JG-or3pm
    @JG-or3pm 3 ปีที่แล้ว +311

    No one can forget batmans weakness in the arkham games
    Locked doors

    • @TheNTony19
      @TheNTony19 3 ปีที่แล้ว +26

      One of the most powerful versions of batman...defeated by a locked door

    • @saewong1418
      @saewong1418 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Its actually women i Looked it up

    • @thedarkjw6219
      @thedarkjw6219 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @5j5j2 enderman👀

    • @CCaster2000
      @CCaster2000 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Ikr? It's not like Batman has a history of kicking down locked doors or anything.

    • @forfathom
      @forfathom 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Bright colors

  • @flannelcookie4170
    @flannelcookie4170 3 ปีที่แล้ว +253

    I just hope the world feels alive. I'm sick of there being no life in the environments.

    • @capconman1233
      @capconman1233 3 ปีที่แล้ว +27

      TheBatmanFan17 from the gameplay it seems there will be pedestrians

    • @brettvonklock3206
      @brettvonklock3206 3 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      you guys gotta know tho its still the middle of the night when the batfam operates so I want some civilians but not a ton bc that would be weird there isn't a ton of people out at night you know.

    • @MinuteLeech2
      @MinuteLeech2 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      Eric good. It was hard to feel motivated to save Gotham when no one lived there but thugs you beat up occasionally

    • @flannelcookie4170
      @flannelcookie4170 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      @@ericwingate124 I agree. We should definitely beat up civilians in this one.

    • @bigsmilie07
      @bigsmilie07 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Get ready for game crashes

  • @erenalpcollu9877
    @erenalpcollu9877 3 ปีที่แล้ว +226

    I really want them to actually make Jason a character instead of an edgy smoker dude. He has one of the most complex philosophy and the relationship with Bruce and I really want them to touch on that. Little moments where you actually see Jason grieving over Bruce would be so cool.

    • @Revstarallstar
      @Revstarallstar 3 ปีที่แล้ว +12

      They will never to do that unless you want them to glimpse over it in the game as you can play the whole game as him.
      They would only do him justice if they make him the single protagonist for a game movie or series. Other than that, till I become famous in acting they will not do Jason todd right

    • @angelopellicci179
      @angelopellicci179 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Revstarallstar okay man

    • @thedonofthsht76-58
      @thedonofthsht76-58 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Sounds gayyyy

    • @Revstarallstar
      @Revstarallstar 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      The Mad Titan yh i agree, im just going off the type of story he explained

    • @comebacksarecool2834
      @comebacksarecool2834 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Who depicted Jason as a edgy smoker dude? The movies definitely didn't

  • @reubenbeacham7041
    @reubenbeacham7041 3 ปีที่แล้ว +155

    I'd love to have more missions that involve having to use stealthy manoeuvres and tactics to get to a specific target. Like, it'd be cool if, since we're dealing with the Court of Owls, if the Bat-Family need go to some kind of big event like a gala or a ball, since the Court are mostly prominent societal figures, and they have to stake out the place and locate a target to capture, whilst trying not to draw too much attention to themselves, since they were associated with the late Bruce Wayne and will therefore attract a lot of attention from rich socialites and the media. And once you've gotten you're target, you need to sneak up on them and take them to a quiet space with no people and interrogate them to find out info about the Court's dealings.

    • @uneazypolarb7691
      @uneazypolarb7691 3 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      Thats a really good concept

    • @alexanderson6465
      @alexanderson6465 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Y E S ! ! !

    • @neockwon2099
      @neockwon2099 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Dick Grayson would most likely get an Inheritance from Bruce and be a high status figure

    • @reubenbeacham7041
      @reubenbeacham7041 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@neockwon2099 so would Tim and Jason since they were Bruce's wards too. Don't know about Barbara though, but since she's Batgirl/Oracle, Bruce would've most likely left her something as well.

    • @reubenbeacham7041
      @reubenbeacham7041 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @Taedon 18 yess, exactly

  • @Reykh24
    @Reykh24 3 ปีที่แล้ว +303

    It's a loose rpg so I'm not worried, I'm just really really excited

    • @DegenerateJay
      @DegenerateJay  3 ปีที่แล้ว +48

      Yeah I'm very open to the new direction as well

    • @christiansnaturestudio6599
      @christiansnaturestudio6599 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      I am not open to that. Not buying this game. What a waste of 5 years of waiting.

    • @Reykh24
      @Reykh24 3 ปีที่แล้ว +49

      @@christiansnaturestudio6599 why did you feel the need to say that to someone who deliberately said they're excited, that's just being a bitch.

    • @jerra1168
      @jerra1168 3 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      Christian Castillo k?

    • @christiansnaturestudio6599
      @christiansnaturestudio6599 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@jerra1168 kk

  • @Joyoboyogomu
    @Joyoboyogomu 3 ปีที่แล้ว +93

    My absolute biggest concern regarding the game, is that the characters are going to take a backseat. The game can be played from beginning to end with only one character. The branching paths are going to keep the characters very generic. It’s going to be slightly altered, but mostly the same. It’s something I’m very worried for, and not what I want. I want to see their alter egos bounce off of each other. It’s what makes the batfamily the batfamily. Not the masks, but the people who they are underneath

    • @reposefulcrane4269
      @reposefulcrane4269 3 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      I initially thought that all the characters had their own stories that came together into the Court of Owls conspiracy towards Act 3. So each character would go off and tackle their own missions and villains, then find out something bigger is going on. But then the interview came out that you can play through the whole game as a single protagonist and the co-op could allow for two Batgirls, I just know that characters themselves are going to take a backseat.
      Hell, I now also highly doubt Batman will be playable because adding him in doesn't make sense for the structure of the game. You play through about half the game as Nightwing, then Batman gets added to the roster. So then you have to take the time and level up a new character if you want to play Batman. I'm cautiously optimistic about the game, but I don't know man.

    • @legostarwarsstopmotion5600
      @legostarwarsstopmotion5600 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@reposefulcrane4269 all characters levels will be the same, so if a main Nightwing, everyone else will be the same level

  • @TheAzulmagia
    @TheAzulmagia 3 ปีที่แล้ว +101

    Origins having no civilians at all was weird because the Firefly segment had a whole bridge full of people that were kidnapped. Obviously he didn't go to their homes, tell them to drive to the Gotham Bridge, and then hold them hostage, so they must have been out and about. And yet this is the only time in the game that we ever actually see anyone around?

    • @bostonpride1717
      @bostonpride1717 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Well luckily all the civilians out congregated to the bridge, and firefly capitalized

    • @richardball5843
      @richardball5843 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      It was always my head canon that thugs not wearing masks are civilians hanging out, only for Batman to start beating them.

  • @jester8937
    @jester8937 3 ปีที่แล้ว +73

    This is cool listening to the two of you talking about this together

    • @isaacvgraham
      @isaacvgraham 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Yeah I just put my phone face down and listened and it was nice

  • @lilnjdevil116
    @lilnjdevil116 3 ปีที่แล้ว +135

    I want a conversation between Jason and Barbara about how their still traumatized from Joker

    • @BM4N854
      @BM4N854 3 ปีที่แล้ว +13

      Why would Barbra be traumatized she didn’t get shot by the joker in this universe

    • @lilnjdevil116
      @lilnjdevil116 3 ปีที่แล้ว +32

      @@BM4N854 Yes she did, theres a wheel chair to her left in the trailer, I imagine shes got a spine chip or something to make her walk

    • @jessec.6876
      @jessec.6876 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      no. no references

    • @floodrunner_2042
      @floodrunner_2042 3 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      Jesse Cervantes but why? It’s a comic game, there’s bound to be references anyway

    • @jessec.6876
      @jessec.6876 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@floodrunner_2042 nah that shits corny af it drags the story down. "lets add a forced conversation between these two about the joker" fuck that

  • @StupidMarioBros1Fan
    @StupidMarioBros1Fan 3 ปีที่แล้ว +26

    In regards to Joker being in the game, I think the best case scenero would be a cameo appearance that lets the player know he's alive in this continuity. Have a shot of him in Arkham Assylum or a shot of him being taken away to Arkham.
    This avoids the risk of him overshadowing the story or feeling underutilized. It's the Joker, and he's known for having big & crazy schemes so it's hard to find a balance in that when he isn't the main villain & isn't going to be the main villain later in the story.
    It's simple & gets the job done. Even if a little underwhelming, it's better than a side mission that makes him feel underutilized, and after 4 games in recent years having him be/turn into the main focus of the story, we don't need it happening again in Gotham Knights.

    • @killrickroll5731
      @killrickroll5731 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      What if he committed suicide I mean there's no Batman anymore or at least depressed it would be cool to see him sad maybe when he found out someone else did it he killed Harley idk seems like a good idea

  • @shaunstorey23
    @shaunstorey23 3 ปีที่แล้ว +25

    I kinda want them to have character based side missions. you can pick whatever character you want to play the story but you can have missions that focus on each characters abilities and story from the comics. like you can have Tim drake solve crimes from like the penguin, or you could have knighting try to find the gang tony Zucco works for, and you could have Babs and red hood switch off and try to find joker and his new joker toxin

    • @when1250
      @when1250 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Bro yes this is exactly what they should do cos I’m already not impressed with the rpg elements like whys every fucking game gotta be an rpg smh 😭 but yeh this could redeem the game if they took this approach

    • @when1250
      @when1250 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @Leia that won’t make a difference bro cos that’s not the only thing that makes it an rpg you would have to rework the whole game is that was the case it has to be more of an open world story game like black flag for example yk?

  • @bisexualichigo4227
    @bisexualichigo4227 3 ปีที่แล้ว +51

    It needs more lots of diverse bosses.
    Like obviously some villains from the comics.

    • @ctkook6477
      @ctkook6477 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      You can never have too many Bosses!

    • @difference3maker36
      @difference3maker36 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I agree origins had great bosses but they weren’t hard enough I want bosses that are Dark souls Sans level of difficulty

    • @dreadofrevision
      @dreadofrevision 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Difference3 Maker. I had a hard time fighting deathstroke In Origins.

    • @uneazypolarb7691
      @uneazypolarb7691 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@difference3maker36 cuphead level stuff
      Yea

  • @fanboy58
    @fanboy58 3 ปีที่แล้ว +58

    The free roaming Wayne Manor is such a great idea. It could be a fun side area with secrets like Croft Manor in some of the older Tomb Raider games and the TR: Legend trilogy.

  • @wintersoldier164
    @wintersoldier164 3 ปีที่แล้ว +43

    i think it would be cool to fight 2 villains at once, like what they did in spider man ps4

    • @vishkrish187
      @vishkrish187 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      I wish it was 4 player like the avengers game. This game is perfectly set up to run similar to that game. Just imagine all 4 Bat-Family members fighting together. Imagine the cool quad-takedowns they could do.

    • @ripsicle8046
      @ripsicle8046 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      VishDaFish2016 the only problem I’ve got with that is how cluttered the game becomes with four players, as well as the spike in difficulty. Can’t be too easy because four players will cream the bosses but it can’t be too hard or two players will get demolished.

    • @vishkrish187
      @vishkrish187 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Ripsicle true, but if the map was more open it would be cool to have 4 players strategically position themselves around a POI and slowly work their way to the middle.

    • @kevionwhite8806
      @kevionwhite8806 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Yea i like for there be solo missions for whatever character u play as but also have mission evolving 2 or more member with the climax or final both take all four but able to play as single player with AI controlling the others

  • @LukaTNTdragon
    @LukaTNTdragon 3 ปีที่แล้ว +50

    I want to see the Joker as a side mission, not the main plot or anything, just let him have someone hostage or something and you have to sneak around and take him down or something like that idk

    • @zoid7846
      @zoid7846 3 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      Personally i feel joker is too big of a character to be left as a side mission , he’d probably steal the show

    • @errolduplessis9451
      @errolduplessis9451 3 ปีที่แล้ว +18

      Zoid what are you talking about. The joker has always been the main villain but he can be a side villain. Batman animated series did it right. Also it’s a sidekick game so he wouldn’t steal the show.

    • @zoid7846
      @zoid7846 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Errol Duplessis idk personally to me he still seems to big to be left as a side character but i respect your opinion

    • @giorgio17y69
      @giorgio17y69 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Or a tank battle

    • @user-dv6nh3mu3y
      @user-dv6nh3mu3y 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      I prefer joker become secondary antagonist

  • @DanielValentin0508
    @DanielValentin0508 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I remember in the gameplay the guy said that this is like hours into Barbara’s character progression. So either that means that’s like gameplay and upgrades. Or…….. it means each character has their own individual stories and arcs and those take up to like 15 hours to complete each. That’d be awesome!!

    • @tavennn1
      @tavennn1 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Thatd be awesome if each character had a 15 hour campaign. Jason and Dick should have a like older brother, younger brother relation. Dick and babs should have at least one scene where they're on a date. Jason and Damian should acknowledge their both the angsty ones of the fam.

    • @numberbndl3763
      @numberbndl3763 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@tavennn1 Damian isn’t in the game tho, Robin is Tim in this game

    • @tavennn1
      @tavennn1 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@numberbndl3763 oh.

  • @slcmof
    @slcmof 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Thanks for having me!

    • @DegenerateJay
      @DegenerateJay  3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Loved it man! More to come and thanks for coming on!!!

  • @eggypatrick5875
    @eggypatrick5875 3 ปีที่แล้ว +20

    Hopefully they do something like ghost recon breakpoints realistic mode, where you can turn off the leveling system and damage sponge enemies. Because they said that enemies will tune their level to your level, so basically the leveling system doesn’t matter. That would definitely get alot of people back on the gotham knights hype train, not saying it looks bad because im buying it no matter what but its just something to note.

    • @eggypatrick5875
      @eggypatrick5875 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Fatman JStyle ?, in the coment it said I’m buying it no matter what, it also said why I’m not a huge fan of the game

  • @Seeker_Blade
    @Seeker_Blade 3 ปีที่แล้ว +22

    I honestly scared that this game will make the same mistakes avengers did. I hope this game isn’t too online focused, because I did not like that about avengers. Also I hope that this game focuses on more than one villain (as you said) mostly because I hated how avengers really didn’t have any established villains besides modok, aim, abomination and taskmaster. I hope that this game does focus on the court of owls. But I hope joker is in the game as my favorite comic book character, I hope he at least has a long side quest or a major role in the story. I hope this story is actually well written too and not just trying to get it done in time of a deadline like how I felt Avengers did due to the lack of character development of the characters (especially Thor and cap). Great video guys!

    • @errolduplessis9451
      @errolduplessis9451 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      Nah joker needs to be a small role.

    • @uneazypolarb7691
      @uneazypolarb7691 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      The game is made for a single player experience according to the devs, it also doesn't need you to be connected to WiFi to play it. Also, everyone's kind of tired with joker at this point. He would be cool as a sidequest with Jason or Babs bit nah je shouldn't be a part of the main story

    • @Seeker_Blade
      @Seeker_Blade 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      By a major role I don’t mean main antagonist. I am bringing it up as his role like in hush as a important side villain

    • @when1250
      @when1250 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Cyberpunk with it’s early release: 😳

  • @scelonferdi
    @scelonferdi 3 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    I'm really puzzled why this isn't Arkham! I loved that series rendition of these characters and they really differed gameplay wise. So I would have loved to see a game about those versions with their unique abilities and gadgets adapted for a new combat system. Red Hood and Batgirl would admittedly need some extra work put into them (for Barb some of Batmans tools like the weapons jammer could be adopted). They a just different enough. Admittedly my favorite thing from WB Montreal would have been an Origins Sequel focused around Bruce and Dick as Dynamic Duo.

    • @scelonferdi
      @scelonferdi 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@karma-4730 Didn't stop them from making Origins, the same way not being Bethesda studios not being stop Obsidian from making Fallout New Vegas. Heck there are several multi studio franchises, just look at Assassin's Creed.

    • @pizzatime4204
      @pizzatime4204 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@scelonferdi people complained about origins being too similar to the arkham games but now it's different people are still complaining

    • @scelonferdi
      @scelonferdi 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@pizzatime4204 Oh, i'm totally for shifts in gameplay and tone, just not continuity. Also I had fun with Origins from day1.

    • @pizzatime4204
      @pizzatime4204 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@scelonferdi cool

    • @scelonferdi
      @scelonferdi 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@pizzatime4204 Jeez, had a typo there, fixed it. I didn't mean community but continuity.

  • @mireldanila2483
    @mireldanila2483 3 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    I hope there will be slow and creepy moments and also a detective side to the game

    • @when1250
      @when1250 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Yeh like the eeriness and dark sort of tone in Arkham asylum

  • @Memu_
    @Memu_ 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    A neat way they could include the Wayne manor is to make it a post-game hub. The manor explodes in the beginning and Wayne industries is rebuilding it as the story folds out.

  • @blacksnow1966
    @blacksnow1966 3 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    Everyone know's that batman has multiple batcaves scattered around gotham like the northwest batcave and the one underneath Robinson's park i hope that we can see one of them since the main one got destroyed ..

  • @FansDiscussingFandoms
    @FansDiscussingFandoms 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Here's a cool idea for a Joker side mission in Gotham Knights?
    As you are playing through the game you hear reports of a bat themed hero aside from the main four running around the city. The mystery hero is thought to be Batman as from a far his outfit looks almost identical to Batman's. You investigate the sites of where the mystery hero saved civilians and you see signs of Joker such as the rescued civilians are smiling, laughing due to joker gas, or joker playing cards with a message similar to when Spider-man would write calling cards with "you'r friendly neighbourhood spider-man" on them. When you finally encounter this mystery hero it's Joker in a joker themed bat suit. In the final encounter you could have a predator on predator fight against him trying to take him down from the shadows as he does the same with you. Or maybe the court of owls attack and you need to fight alongside Joker to escape.
    I think this would be really cool and something no one would expect if they include Joker in Gotham knights!

  • @oneida3523
    @oneida3523 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I like these types of videos a lot between you and slcmof, would love to see more. Keep up the good work jay

    • @slcmof
      @slcmof 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Thank you!

  • @oisin4604
    @oisin4604 3 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    Alright look we all complain about the batmobile and all that but the biggest problem is that in the last games was a lack of the court of jokers

    • @everlels7608
      @everlels7608 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      And there was way to few tank battles

    • @when1250
      @when1250 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@everlels7608 ikr the batomobile was so under utilised and the Arkham knights tanks weren’t even used smh such wasted asset potential 😔

  • @buffyoda3420
    @buffyoda3420 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Just spotted the Henry Adams missing poster during the section of the video where you showed the Arkham Knight opening scene. Neat!

  • @tommihietanen2026
    @tommihietanen2026 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I'm thinking that robin, nightwing, batgirl and jason todd should all have their own villain that they try to bring down and in the end they all come together to beat the court of owls.

    • @SHEVCHENKOFAN18
      @SHEVCHENKOFAN18 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Someone else said that and I agree it would a good idea.

  • @LegionOfArkham
    @LegionOfArkham 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Man, even with the quality drop with Skype, you still sound better than my audio set up

    • @when1250
      @when1250 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Uh tik tok *samsung notification* I broke my phone so I’m using my dads Samsung

  • @deox6644
    @deox6644 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    I said this before and I’m going to say it again. I think WB wanted to make Gotham Knights a sequel, and then Rocksteady told them or they found out that Suicide Squad would be the sequel so they dropped it. But, they didn’t really want to change much. Also, I hate the RPG aspect but the gameplay was the Alpha build. It’s too early to classify the game.

    • @when1250
      @when1250 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @Chicken & Chive don’t think anyone does tbh it’s j embarrassing that every game has to be an rpg these days shits actual so annoying

  • @captainrexandrew1759
    @captainrexandrew1759 3 ปีที่แล้ว +33

    Hello jay. Today is just a lazy rainy day and I’m watching in bed and it’s gonna be fun to watch this. Also I’m uber excited for gk. Also yeah you are great jay. I hope we see civilians a good bit. Apparently their is gonna be traffic and stuff which would be really cool. I’m also really excited for all the villains in the game. Hopefully killer croc and firefly are in the game. Since they are my favorite Batman villains. They tried to throw us off their trail. They need to have Lincoln March in the game. That would be awesome. No I agree joker should be in it. Wouldn’t feel like Gotham city without joker.

    • @saintmongaloid9498
      @saintmongaloid9498 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I do agree it’s just he should just be side missions in a borough as I would like to see the chemistry between Jason and the joker

    • @saintmongaloid9498
      @saintmongaloid9498 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Oh also how joker is reacting to batmans so called death

    • @uneazypolarb7691
      @uneazypolarb7691 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Killer Moth?

    • @saintmongaloid9498
      @saintmongaloid9498 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@zitalo6163 I agree he was in them games too much however I feel that because it is a game without batman jokers main nemesis he wouldn’t be a big part as I would assume that Batman’s death would send into a deep depression as he doesn’t have a reason to be evil anymore

  • @mobilegaming-gage2488
    @mobilegaming-gage2488 3 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    I really hope that this game comes out on the standard Xbox One, and not Next-Gen exclusives.

    • @DegenerateJay
      @DegenerateJay  3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      I'm pretty sure it will since Xbox wants to be an overall ecosystem for years

    • @alexanderson6465
      @alexanderson6465 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      It's on PS4/5 and the Xboxes I'm sure

    • @killrickroll5731
      @killrickroll5731 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Hey Jay if u see this make good videos man I also have some ideas for the joker appearance
      1. Flashback
      It would probably be good to see joker torturing Jason or shooting barbara
      2. Batman's death see bat man's last act which would be taking out the joker many ways the devs could do this
      3. Depressed
      Wouldn't joker be sad that his obsession died especially if it wasn't him that killed Batman
      Bonus addition. maybe Harley was the one who told joker and joker got so mad he killed her

    • @alexanderson6465
      @alexanderson6465 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@killrickroll5731 when they announced it they said PS4 and Xbox One

    • @oliverroumanos2143
      @oliverroumanos2143 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@killrickroll5731 ,

  • @thelilguns
    @thelilguns 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    I didn't know your guys channel until Gotham Knights because i literally had to have watched hundreds of Gotham Knights videos. But love your content I got to sub

  • @christopherrajecki3377
    @christopherrajecki3377 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    If Jason is allowed to kill people, I'm gonna play him as much as I can

    • @saewong1418
      @saewong1418 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I think they gave him non lethal bullets

  • @duartevader2101
    @duartevader2101 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Your videos are awesome!!

  • @TheRustedShackleford
    @TheRustedShackleford 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    An active city population would go a long way for me. There's just so much potential that is yet to be realized.

  • @capconman1233
    @capconman1233 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I swear if the make Joker a member of the Court of Owls or a Talon I’m gonna be real mad

  • @uditvedantmishra9719
    @uditvedantmishra9719 3 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    I personally feel they should've given their version of Batman atleast one game so we get to know him and see how he's different from the Arkham Batman , then at the end Batman dies (supposedly) and gotham knights comes after that , I mean how are we supposed to care about a batman we've never met before , The game has its work cut out for it

    • @josephm6984
      @josephm6984 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Yeah I hope we get to see the Gotham knights looking back at some memories with Bruce so we get to kind of learn what type of person he was

    • @christianfrost8660
      @christianfrost8660 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      The mistake with starting their own continuity is not starting at the beginning. These guys have already made a staring point for the Arkham series, so they know how to do it. I just don't see where they can go afterwards.

    • @killrickroll5731
      @killrickroll5731 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      I will love every Batman even the Batman who laughs

  • @zeeali2722
    @zeeali2722 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    0:57 Jay coming on at the same time as Bruce makes it look like Bruce is talking.

  • @elijahhayes8615
    @elijahhayes8615 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I agree with these, I hope that we get unlimited access to the batvehicles, but not forced like in Arkham knight, I would really to see the phantasm some how, it would really be cool if The Mad Hatter was given more. Sing able to play as Batman would be great as well.

  • @forleasenavidad8877
    @forleasenavidad8877 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    This collab its amazing! Its a great dynamic

    • @DegenerateJay
      @DegenerateJay  3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Thank you! Working with a legend!

    • @captainrexandrew1759
      @captainrexandrew1759 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Degenerate Jay you are a legend as well jay!!!

  • @i_am_divinity
    @i_am_divinity 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I love your videos and keep up the great work

    • @r520jr8
      @r520jr8 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Conspiracy theory: Nate and T are the same person

    • @captainrexandrew1759
      @captainrexandrew1759 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      R520 J R wdym theory. It’s canon now

    • @r520jr8
      @r520jr8 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      captainrexct7567 Andrew the ever growing Jay Cinematic Universe

  • @HeLLO-gp5rt
    @HeLLO-gp5rt 3 ปีที่แล้ว +25

    Hey everyone

  • @lifeisberserk9566
    @lifeisberserk9566 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    So excited to play this can't wait!!!!!

  • @Patrick-qe3ci
    @Patrick-qe3ci 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Arkham Origins had the best story and the best boss battles so that's why I have full faith in WB Montreal to do a great job with Gotham Knights.

  • @kyleg1912
    @kyleg1912 3 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    Looks like there's a few civilians towards the end of the section where batgirl is riding the bike at the start of the trailer

  • @lordcheesus1013
    @lordcheesus1013 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Need better boss fights than Knight had. City had some decent ones but Knight reeeeeally suffered from lack of good boss fights, which adventure games sorely need. The Freeze boss fight teased in the first Gotham Knights clips looks dope. Hope the others are just as good if not better.

  • @alexcallaghan706
    @alexcallaghan706 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great vid

  • @redxman2572
    @redxman2572 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I really want more villains that haven’t been put out as much like clay face, a better bane, scar face with a group of henchmen, or clue master or somthing different

  • @Cash42
    @Cash42 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Honestly I loved collecting all riddler trophies and although it was time consuming, idk I always loved going around the map and finding Easter eggs in the process too. Hope they keep the trophy system, at least to an extent

    • @immaculatesquid
      @immaculatesquid 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      100 at most. in a huge map. maybe 50 trophies in secret locations that have relevance to comics, and 50 riddles because who doesn't like the riddles. but there's no more batman so I'm not sure it really makes sense

  • @SlickZero1028
    @SlickZero1028 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    18:10 I get what he’s saying about the side missions being the length of dlc. But that’s a lot to ask for, especially when you know how they like to make their money off of dlc.

  • @reeceweston10
    @reeceweston10 3 ปีที่แล้ว +26

    You have no idea how much I want them to change Jason's design. I'm happy with jasons build, he looks right but his face and hair is so damn weird

    • @uneazypolarb7691
      @uneazypolarb7691 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Is it really that bad?

    • @reeceweston10
      @reeceweston10 3 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      @@uneazypolarb7691 dude I don't normally let designa kiss me iff but this one just doesnt even feel like the character like it looks like they just made some random dom character model and said yup that's jt

    • @reeceweston10
      @reeceweston10 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      @@ad0339 same he looks like hes older than dick, I like his build like I think jason should be pretty big but he just looks so weird, I think arkham knight had a pretty good design for him

    • @reeceweston10
      @reeceweston10 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@ad0339 I think troy baker did a perfect job of playing a broken jason. I'm gonna wait to see what this dude brings but I dont think ackles or baker can be topped. The only thing I didnt like about the arkham knignt was the branded j

    • @comebacksarecool2834
      @comebacksarecool2834 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Give us white jacket red hood

  • @default893
    @default893 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    I agree with your points and I would love see the interaction between the court of owls and jokes because it would be so cool see joker make jokes about how goofy the court of owls look and I would like to explore Wayne manor if there was a cool side mission where you have fight some thugs in the manor. I watch slcmof videos and I enjoy the videos on his Batman and theory there are very cool have a nice day

  • @lukeprief3023
    @lukeprief3023 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I hope steff brown is in here I also hope they let u have the requiem for robin outfits for them

  • @phil_postcrisis
    @phil_postcrisis 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I want extra characters in the DLC down the road like Catwoman, Batwoman, Azrael, and other Batfamily characters

  • @Robert-wt6yy
    @Robert-wt6yy 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Very nice video

  • @DoctorThabo
    @DoctorThabo 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Joker dedicates himself to batman, seeing him as a villian wouldn't make sense. But I'd love to see how he'd cope with the fact that he's dead (maybe something like dark knight returns).

  • @joaopauloaraujo71
    @joaopauloaraujo71 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I am just hyped

  • @sayerzsciety2541
    @sayerzsciety2541 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I mean they could of had an evacuation plan being there is consistent threat

  • @Batman723
    @Batman723 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    I think it would be cool to see joker in one of the coffins in the coffin room in the court of owls base or bunker or whatever but only as an Easter egg

  • @jackleskovac3246
    @jackleskovac3246 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I’m sad they did this instead of a nightwing solo game set after knight were he has to deal with the expectations of the people for him to be the next batman

  • @gagesmith4723
    @gagesmith4723 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I hope they have like side missions for each character that has backstory for each of them

  • @Uggabugga07
    @Uggabugga07 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Aslong as there are no "bossfights" that just require one button press like TwoFace in "Flip of a Coin" Arkham Knight

  • @HIWES433
    @HIWES433 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    We need more side villains like Doctor Hurt, Maxie Zeus, Prometheus, Tweedledee and Tweedledum, Black Spider, David Cain, Phantasm, and Reaper. Like villains that you don't see that often or that doesn't get the spotlight that they deserve and that they can put there very own spin on the characters.

    • @SHEVCHENKOFAN18
      @SHEVCHENKOFAN18 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      I'm not familiar with Black Spider and Reaper, but yes to all of the others that you mentioned. And it's Doctor Hurt not Doctor Hunt.

  • @ThreeProphets
    @ThreeProphets 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I can't think of a non-contrived way to bring the Joker back *again.* Having him exist in Bruce's mind was very clever, but I think they've run out of tricks by now. We've already un-crippled Barbara, so that would really be stretching things. Even Batman reappearing would be cheesy as hell

    • @when1250
      @when1250 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Technically they can do whatever since it’s a different universe but yeh shits starting to get old since it’s been recycled so many times

  • @itsjustgrantt8805
    @itsjustgrantt8805 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    I really hope they make the armor simple and not super confusing to use and not like an armor system from Injustice 2 since were getting leveled enemies now.

  • @tuffweems3391
    @tuffweems3391 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I hope there’s a reference to the dark trinity

  • @JoshMC2000
    @JoshMC2000 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    It would be cool if each of the characters had there own HQ

  • @MikeGaming_
    @MikeGaming_ 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Imagine at the end unlocking access to Batman if he is not really dead

    • @a_zawodny
      @a_zawodny 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Honestly I can see that happening, then it makes people play the story the full way through to unlock him. They know that Batman makes money, so full on killing him will hurt sales

  • @CarnageRulez469
    @CarnageRulez469 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    I feel like Joker could have a alluded presence via his gang, however he’s not there because Batman isn’t around, but if/when Bats returns, that builds up to a Gotham Knights sequel that’s influenced from Death of the Family and Joker Wars.

  • @gonzo5620
    @gonzo5620 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Use OBS it’s a streaming app and it records video and voice great, you’ll just have to fiddle with the settings a bit

    • @DegenerateJay
      @DegenerateJay  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      I have OBS but I've never heard of it being used to record skype? I will look into this! Thank you!

    • @immaculatesquid
      @immaculatesquid 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@DegenerateJay i like your kinda casual call format. its so relaxing. i listen to a small history channel named history bro and i appreciate that similarity between your channels.

  • @therealacewildcat
    @therealacewildcat 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    i'd love to play this with friends, but you go off and do your own stuff as robin or batgirl etc, staying in touch via comms and teaming up when nec

  • @vextasey6961
    @vextasey6961 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    i would like for there to be a lot to do after the main story like side missions or co-op missions or even a wave type of thing or heck even pvp just something after the main story to keep me playing

  • @27mayanman
    @27mayanman 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Great points about fleshed-out side missions based on comic book stories, more civilians out there. I would like to add to the civilians being in trouble in dark alleys or abandoned buildings, kidnappings in trunks of cars a kin to Marvel’s Spider-Man. Having constant crimes and interactions with civilians is what will make this game stand apart, in a great way, from the Arkham series. The only other thing I would love to see but it’s probably too late to achieve, is that they change the costumes and weapons to be more like the Arkham series, darker and grittier than these Joel Schumacher Batman and Robin Loud, Neon lights and bright colors!!

  • @AustenHilton
    @AustenHilton 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    they should have riddles that you scan as ester eggs that give you xp and you shouldn't need all of them to beat Riddler it just adds to the world and gives you xp

  • @LukaTNTdragon
    @LukaTNTdragon 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Its a loose rpg so im kinda worried, but im still excited

    • @Monty0-0
      @Monty0-0 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @seb asstion RPG = Sponge enemies. That's why I'm worried about

  • @septicmoma
    @septicmoma 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Lol you traveling dangerous grounds here

  • @vadar0521
    @vadar0521 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    I really hope there will be a batman 2-5 hour dlc like batgirls with joker as a main villain so we will get it but as post game content

  • @Br3nzz
    @Br3nzz 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Maybe different maps and i dont mean areas like park row, the bowery, west arkham, i mean like maybe a different city and its smaller

  • @Kaneki_.Reaper
    @Kaneki_.Reaper 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    I wish they add the bat cave because it will makes things allot cooler and better.

  • @aeternumcadens1777
    @aeternumcadens1777 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    I always thought they should do another Batman arkham knight style gane but in Neo-gotham with Terry as the main character and Bruce returning to train him and help him become the new Batman. Basically rocksteady's take on Batman Beyond

  • @unchainedwiththecapt
    @unchainedwiththecapt 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Bat Pod. I wanna drive a Bat Pod. Also no drone tanks.

  • @Noobmaster-nb7cr
    @Noobmaster-nb7cr 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    There needs to be actual good post story content to make use of the RPG elements

  • @Jtex_123
    @Jtex_123 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    No tank battles!

  • @da5341
    @da5341 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    I would like to see joker in some kind of catatonic state, like he was in "The dark knight returns" or something like that.
    Would be nice to have actual boss fights this time.
    Other than that I like that they will make the court of owls as the main villain, don't like all that much the rpg approach, and the models are giving me a weird feeling like the cloaths doesn't seem to have weight and redhood's helmet looks like it's made out of some kind of clhoth idk.
    Edit: Maybe in one part of the game you would need to get something from the joker, and he is like all excited thinking the batman is back and when he realizes it's just a member of the batfamilly he just gets all sad and give up. Then you take him to GCPD or Arkham and he just stays quiet the whole ride.

  • @randompoet9997
    @randompoet9997 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    I know they said you can play the whole game with any character you want, but I really hope there are side missions where you have to use a specific character. Something like haley's circus coming to town and dick decides to check it out, or something is going on at the GCPD and Barbra wants to take care of it herself. Stuff to really emphasize the character's personality and individual skills.

  • @theterminator7365
    @theterminator7365 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    “It’s the court of jokers”

  • @UpstandingCitizen1
    @UpstandingCitizen1 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    I want a red hood outlaw type dlc to get a more brutal anti hero red hood,

  • @luckymon1571
    @luckymon1571 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    I would like riddler trophies but I would prefer them to handle it like Arkham City. They were more challenging but I would like it if they reduced the amount to 150.

  • @ALCATRAZx29
    @ALCATRAZx29 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    I’m sure the trailer said the explosion was in Gotham City so Wayne Manor might still be there.

  • @dovakota
    @dovakota 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I'd be interested to see how Joker would react to the apparent death of Batman in this game.

  • @hazelcrisp
    @hazelcrisp 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    I'm actually pretty excited for GK. I'm open to change and RS and WB have said they weren't going to focus on Arkham. So people who thought they were getting another Arkham game got their own hopes up for nothing. I like the teamwork aspect. It's rare to have a game you can play with someone else that isn't competitive but co-op in the main style of gameplay. Batman likes to work alone but can be a flaw sometimes. I love the Batfamily so this is right up my alley.
    I love games which take a stylistic choice such as Life is Strange which helps games stand out from each other form a glance. I quite like the more cartoony, stylized graphics rather than the hyper-detailed and realistic ones in Arkham because it feels closer and akin to emulating the comics or animated series if they are gonna stick with it.
    Seems to be a hybrid and balance of the Arkham free flow and typical best em up combat. It's reminiscent of Arkham but unique enough to be its own thing. They don't seem to be glued or magically attracted to enemies but seem fluid and agile enough to keep up a combo between enemies and not have restrictive movement which kills the momentum. I assume some characters are more agile than others due to their builds. such as Robin being able to teleport or the more acrobatic Nightwing and Batgirl. In regards to the leveling system, I hope it delivers on enemy difficulty not just being based on stats but how the combat plays out as the commentary said. WB have said you can turn off the number HUD and the levels are more of an indication of how tough the enemy is. People forget that games like Arkham enemies have health bars but you just can't see them.

  • @snatchadams69
    @snatchadams69 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Is this one of those games where you're a random Batman Family member teaming up with the core family and you have pay for different costumes and combos, gadgets?

  • @valiantham6072
    @valiantham6072 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    The game looks really good, I’m just worried about combat.

  • @bencompton2508
    @bencompton2508 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great vid. Just letting u kno it was COD world war with its own hub not BO3

    • @DegenerateJay
      @DegenerateJay  3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      BO3 has one between every mission in the campaign. That's the game.

  • @andrewe.8321
    @andrewe.8321 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    I want joker in the game, but mostly in the form of a secondary villain who is equally as sinister as the court of owls (just in s different way). Maybe have him locked up already, and you visit him in his cell at Arkham. Like Hannibal or something. He’s not the main villain, but he’s definitely a major threat.

  • @jacobfuentez7467
    @jacobfuentez7467 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Dude you sound like this guy I used to play PS4 with just made me realize how much I missed him still miss you Asher/YOOVIVIAN

    • @immaculatesquid
      @immaculatesquid 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      shit hurts when you lose the homie to life :/