I’d love for The Dollmaker (Barton Mathis) to appear with his family. Having these dark villains would fit with the universe and have some creepy parts. Think even more messed up Professor Pyg type material.
Here's my list of some sort of unknown villains who would be super fun missions. Black Spider - He's a ninja who kills mobsters-- specifically mobsters who supply drugs. Catman - Pretty similar to Batman, he's very skilled and I personally think he has a cool costume. Killer Moth - You mentioned him already, he's just a neat character. Prometheus - You mentioned him in your last video regarding the villains you want to see. King Shark - Very interesting and cool character, he could make for some fun missions. James Gordon Jr. - I know very little about him, but he seems very interesting. Joe Chill - Not really a villain, but I would absolutely love to see Batman confront Joe in an Arkham game. Doll Maker - Very creepy guy, but I don't know a lot about him. Could make for some cool Mad Hatter type missions. These aren't villains, but they're people who I want to see in an Arkham game. The Question - He's such a cool and interesting character, I'd love for him to be in an Arkham game. Red Robin - Depending on when the game takes place of course. Damian Wayne - Again, depending on when the game takes place. If you agreed please like so Jay can see!
I like your list a lot, especially the final 2 (Chill and Doll Maker). I'd also love to see The Question show up. He's a character like Arrow that would work as well because you aren't introducing someone like Superman into that story that could end the conflict fairly quickly, if we're assuming Batman is going up against flesh and blood human beings. We know characters like Superman are out there in the ArkhamVerse, but we don't see them I think for that reason. Question or Arrow would negate that problem while allowing fan service and introducing more characters.
@@juanitajohnson6941 they technically could since Tockman has an antique store in Knight! I talked about the one version cause I'm more familiar with him and also I'm not sure which version of Clockman Red Hood supposedly killed in this universe.
But I see those more like a side villians. It would be really cool to have Talon and the Court of Owls as main antagonists (not like Joker, but like Mr. Freeze for example)
I didn't remember that villain at all. He's really cool actually! AND it would make sense with Batman since he targets non-powered vigilantes. That's a deep cut but it would really fit.
The reason the timeline was so screwed up is that during the writing process for Asylum, the character bios are the histories of the characters as they appeared in the Post-crisis 1986 timeline in DC comics since the game was a love letter to that specific era of DC.
Yeah it seemed to me like there were sort of 2 mindsets at work in that game. 1 was what you just said. It seemed to be a love letter to comics and the comic continuity that wasn't fully concerned with its own timeline. However, the 2nd was that they were working on building their own timeline that was self-contained, which we can see even in the Arkham City plans found in Arkham Asylum as that hidden easter egg. It makes that game difficult to talk about because everyone argues about aspects of the lore.
@@thelittlemanfromthedraftbo6805 Why? Origins is interesting, and is my second favorite arkham game with city at the top. Origins does well, and shows off the bane we see in modern comics, a smart strategist, and gives an explanation for why he's a dumb brute in asylum because he took a prototype of TN-1 or as we know it in arkham asylum and city the Titan formula, the deathstroke boss fight really works, and sure we got joker as the main villain again, who cares? the arkham series if you just look at the four games is about the twisted relationship between joker and batman. Origins is the origin of the relationship, with batman learning that he's not alone in his mission by the end of the game, Asylum is setting up the world, its purely world building and setting up city, where city is the end of the relationship between batman and joker with knight as the result of the break up. you could skip asylum and city, and origins to knight works in terms of theme and story work. Origins being about batman accepting that he is a Man not a Myth and allowing himself to have a family, with Knight showing the consequences of being a Man and having the responsibility of the Batman and the consequences of creating his batfamily. Sure origins has a lot of glitches, its not fully fledged out, its just arkham city reskinned, but these are all complaints that are unneccesary. Origins was made by WB montreal as FILLER. to fill in that four year gap between city and knight's release dates. Heck reusing the arkham city map was probably a very smart decision as batman is still, unsurprisingly, working in gotham. Gotham city is not going to change very much during the ten year gap between origins and knight. Heck in arkham knight you can see arkham island, and arkham city, and the amusement park from the batgirl dlc, all of it is just cut off from the mainland. Not to mention in origins we actually got to walk around in the batcave! We got to see what version one of the batcave in the arkhamverse looked like! I'd love to see it as it develops with the series, for example maybe batman does the same thing he does in BTAS and collects momentos of the villains he's fought, like for example the giant penny and the T-Rex but because this is batcave version one before these events have happened they weren't in origins, which makes sense from a timeline perspective. No matter where you look at it origins fits in, i dont understand why people dont want it to be cannon because it clearly is, and it works perfectly that way! Just because your mad about one detail or another doesn't mean you can disqualify it from continuity altogether. Say i didn't like the batman who laughs (my favorite dark knights metal character) and decided to say that the entirety of the Dark Knights medal storyline was noncannon, you'd be outraged that this numbskull hates a story you find interesting just because they dont like one character. thats how i feel about origins haters as they have no reason to hate origins. And yes this is an essay response, deal with it!
@@urticantspoon9960 my personal favourite is also origins. Loved the story, Music was godly, and that scene where alfred dies is so tragic(yes he's brought back to life but TECHNICALLY Alfred died). Bane is a genuine threat, the development of Gordon excepting batman in the end and my absolute favourite TROY MF'ing BACKER as JOKER he's so good that when I first played I thought Mark was doing he's voice but sort've changed it abit to sound young. ORIGINS TO ME IS CANON AND GOLD TEAR
Killer moth The ventriloquist Calender man Black mask Tweedledee Tweedledum Black spider Ragdoll Great white shark Maxie Zeus Captain boomerang Prometheus Red omen Crazy quilt Humpty Dumpty Toymaker
I'd love for Riddler to actually be the big bad, a mastermind orchestrator who pits Batman against a slurry of enemies, similar to the Hush comic series, instead of just a giant collection side mission. I think Prometheus, Scarface, Solomon Grundy, Ragdoll, and Lord Death Man would be some fun new editions. Just no Joker, please. And if they do a sequel to Knight, which I hope they don't personally, it better be Court of Owls. Owlman would be a sick re-occuring event boss. But I'd rather have a sequel to Origin where Joker is already locked up and you are hunting down Riddler as he sends you on a crazy wild-goose chase through Villian-ville.
Especially because if you open the door in batman Arkham origins after gaining all the datapacks you receive the first riddler trophy ever. I know because I made sure to collect them all because they at the very least served a tiny purpose unlike the riddler trophys
Yes he’s literally one of the most creepy villains I’d like to see a jump scare type boss with him where he tries to stab Batman in a house of mirrors or something
I assume they'll make a dlc similar to season of infamy a few months after the games release. I also wonder if they make a Soulja Boy Console exclusive DLC.
Love the list, personally I’d like to see: Prometheus Ventriloquist/Scarface Rag doll Catwoman (Ik she’s in the series but I’d like to see a first encounter type thing) Killer moth Doctor phosphorus ( just to see the graphics and also the fight could be interesting, maybe there’s parts where he can’t be hit or some moves which do double damages etc)
Darth Hope as far as I know nobody has said it is or isn't. I don't personally think it contradicted much of anything from what I remember. Regardless it's not that good of a game or story from what I recall, either. People bring it up sometimes and other times everyone wants to forget Blackgate.
My list of characters I want to return for this game. Killer croc Lady Shiva Solomon Grundy Bane Copperhead Deadshot RED HOOD Hush Man-bat/she-bat Anarky And I can't remember the rest.
@@TechnicalTim-oj5vv the boss fight was alright but the mission itself was one of the ones that seemed the most rushed. No cutscenes, only talking head dialogues.
Yeah, she-bat was hinted at in arkham knight when francine langstrom's body disappeared. (if you go back there after completing the game her body is gone, also on halloween manbat breaks out again) Also i kinda liked Shiva's mission, it was interesting, and whilst it was mostly dialogue it pulled a hush mission and eluded to someone shiva called the master.
Here's some more Villains that need to be in the Batman Game 1. Music Meister 2. The Terrible Trio 3. Phosphorus Rex 4. Killer Moth 5. Orca 6. Everywhere Man 7. The Ratcatcher 8. Bane 9. Mad Hatter 10. The Eraser 11. Maximilian Zeus 12. Poison Ivy 13. Zodiac Master 14. Spellbinder 15. Scarecrow 16. Magpie 17. King Tut 18. Kite Man 19. Deathstroke 20. Great White Shark Bonus. The Dee Dee Twins,Professor Pyg,Deadshot,Black Spider,Ra's al Ghul,Black Mask,Solomon Grundy,Flamingo,Bird and The Cavalier That's all,What do you all think of this list?
10. Killer Moth (has been hinted at alot in the series and I'm disappointed that he hasn't appeared yet) 9. Ratcatcher (same with Killer Moth) 8. Royal Flush Gang (similar to my other suggestions in your other video I can imagine each part of that side quest being you hunting down each member) 7. Birthday Boy (since he's a serial killer with a birthday theme I can imagine this quest being like the Pyg or Hush quests from Knight and City) 6. Maxie Zeus (same with Ratcatcher and Killer Moth) 5. Humpty Dumpty (honestly not sure how this could work but I can imagine him being in charge of an army of people dressed like dolls or toys since he has the mind of a child) 4. Great White Shark (same thing as Killer Moth, Ratcatcher, and Maxie Zeus 3. Film Freak (same with Birthday Boy but with video tapes of his murders instead of the birthday theme) 2. Rag Doll (I can imagine him as a robber and you got to stop him from stealing whatever he's after using a different strategy each time) 1. The Victim Syndicate (again I'm not sure how this would work but I'd like to see it) 1.
Do Batman Inc and go nuts! 1. Lord Death Man (Skeleton mobster, immortal and drives a supercar wielding a machine gun) 2. El Sombrero and Scorpiana (Trap design expert and cybernetic enhanced assassin with a scorpion tail) 3. Miss Hexley (Headmistress of a school training young women with mind drugs to be assassins) 4. The Heretic (Clone and trained assassin of Leviathan) 5. Wood Ape (Don't know much about him, but I assume he is an ape made of wood)
I always found it funny with how Clock King was typically depicted in the comics that for the animated series they basically made him look like The Bookworm from the 60's live action series and a copy of the BTAS Riddler design in one.
I want to see all different villains this time around. No Penguin, no Two-Face (unless we see the origin of him becoming Two-Face), no Riddler. I'm fine with Joker as long as it's a smaller part of the overall story. Give us all those villains they've teased in every game, but never show. Would also like to see the origin of Barbara becoming batgirl.
You guys hit a lot of the ones I'm wanting with this list. You know what I would actually really like to see? A "Batman: War Games" inspired Arkham story.
Honestly, I really wanna see Dr. Grace Balin AKA Orca be in an Arkham game. You know, to have a varied substitute to Killer Croc, where Batman has to track down a monstrous figure at Gotham Docks or a similar area.
I think having to deal with the crime empires of Falcone, Black Mask (but actually using the character properly) and Maxi Zeus (and Penguin for continuity) would be an interesting game dynamic. For every encounter Batman has with a group of thugs, one of the other gangs gradually take over that area, so whilst Batman is trying to defeat the antagonist of a game. he also has to control the streets to prevent a gang war and general crime-doing. Killer Moth and Ratcatcher in the next game is just doing the characters in this universe justice. Can't be mentioning them in any capacity without including an actual appearence.
I would love like, A side quest revolving around like how a bunch of low teir ridiculous Batman Villains all teaming up to achieve one goal. So like Rat catcher, Crazy Quilt, Kite Man, all those gimmicky silly supervillains. So the quest is going through them all and that waybyou can have a handful of those silly villains but not take up like half the side objectives.
Brainiac would be cool and it could maybe have other heroes in the game like superman as he has been confirmed to exist in that universe with the lexcorp buildings and thugs talking about 'a freak in metropolis" or something along those lines
Both your first list and second list I agree with I’d also like to see in no particular order 1-Doctor Phosphorus 2-James gordon jr 3-Dollmaker 4-King shark 5-The calculator I have many more in a wishlist but those are just some I’d like to see. I think that they could balance out the side missions with a number of predator ones and combat ones. Also I’d love to see team up missions where it’s 2 or more villains that u have to fight against
I'd like to see: Klarion the Witch Boy (with Etrigan?) The Joker's Daughter (side mission) Ragdoll (side mission) Owl Man (Main Villain?) Anarchy (side mission) King Shark (maybe fighting Killer Croc?) Joe Chill (Flashback?) Hush (did him dirty in knight, needs a proper story) Blockbuster (sub boss? No need for a proper side mission, think Mr Hammer) Ravager (side mission?) A TMNT reference (nice nod to the comics) Talon Rumour
I'd have Harvey Dent becoming Two-Face if this is a Origins sequel. As well as the first meeting with Catwoman. Perhaps put Wrath and Prometheus together as a tag team, brothers whose criminal parents got killed by cops then they each went down their own path of training to destroy all law enforcement, now they have reunited to take down the GCPD until Batman interferes and becomes the new target. Batman & a newly christened Nightwing vs Wrath & Prometheus.
Ratcatcher was also implied to be horrifically killed by Penguin in the Arkham City Stories. And Killer Moth’s gear is very clearly seen in the animated Arkham Suicide Squad movie.
We should get rat catcher because he's in The suicide Squad movie cross promtion and all that. Poor killer moth least he went out by a cool guy! I'd like to see calendar man actually out in the world
@@noahjones276 I think it's time we got a batman game over more than one to see seasons change day and night plus this would aid Clock King and calendar man cus you actually have a dead line a missable moment
@@andrebrown1835 That is actually a great idea because I'm always like how the he'll did batman meet the joker, bane , deathstroke, dead shot, killer Croc and other ALL IN ONE NIGHT. I'm talking about origins
@@noahjones276 it's a great concept definitely but after we sore spider man ps4 handle Peter parkers life so well batman/Bruce deserves time to shine in the sun plus there would be loads more character development, and that would be needed if there's a young Robin involved in the story
I agree the one night thing is making it harder and harder to tell full believable stories. It'd be easier to dump that and jump between days over the course of even a week imo.
Great points, all of these villains definitely have an existing legacy in the Arkham franchise without ever being actually seen. Only 2 cents I would throw in is when mentioning the Arkham Knight: Genesis comic as the only 100% canon comic in the franchise; it's worth mentioning that the bios in the Arkham Knight game tell the story of Jason's capture by the Joker quite differently.
bloom and all the new 52 villains should be used ! but especially Bloom , the court of owls and the dollmaker plus the reaper for coop with damian wayne
Maybe they can get the writers of the killing joke and they can follow up on all those Harley Quinn pregnancy tests in city and have her give birth to a girl for only years later for Damien and her to "roof top" together. I mean the writers of the killing joke movie were masterfull... Right?
Deacon Blackfire would be an amazing antagonist with an Arkham style adaption of The Cult. Sadly Arkham Knight already did the city under siege that The Cult did first before TDKR and No man’s land ever did
A little long, but my top picks for new Bat rougues Maxie Zeus( industrialist who thinks he’s a god version) Rat catcher( uses pesticides to increase aggressive behaviour in rats) Killer Moth( a ridiculous imitation of Batman for criminals) White Shark ( the games ‘mob boss’, instead of Penguin of Black Mask) Black Spider( murderous ninja who takes down the mob and steals their money) Steel jacket( a man with a skeletal condition which causes him to remain in a large metal suit to not break his brittle bones) Cluemaster( the games Riddler, but sets clues) Rag doll( quadrupole jointed theif) Lockup( former GCPD officer who basically becomes the Punisher) Ventriloquist( head of opposing organised crime, opposite to White Shark) Narcosis( a scarecrow like villian who gives his victims vivid hallucinations by mixing Ketamine and Acetylcholine to create his dream gas) KG Beast( the games Bane, but Russian)
Two villains I would like to see explore are 1)Humpty Dumpty since he first appeared in 1943 they haven't done anything with him. 2) A team up between the Mad hatter and Tweedledum & Tweedledee lol it could be funny to see which one is more crazy about alice in wonderland.
On villains that weren't good in Arkham Knight that they should bring back and do better is ... Hush - I want the real Hush to show up one day in a arkham game and not that 5 second mess they gave us . Man Bat - He should have been a scary boss fight with a "Firefly Origins' style arial battle . NOT give him his medicine and tuck him in for bed . Two -Face - I'm tired of dealing with him in a few hits and it's over . Not sure how they can make it better , but that's why they get paid the big bucks ! Red Hood - His entire "Arkham Knight" Identity was a huge let down for me and I wanted to see him as Red Hood killing villains and fighting the Bat-family like in the comics . Not a Super Tank fight , Not a Super Drill chase , but a Real Fight . Poison Ivy - I was hoping for another plant monster fight with her , but she ended up saving the city instead . Kind of a let down for me .
I agree with all of these, except for Poison Ivy. I thought that having her redeem herself was one of the best aspects of the game, honestly. I didn't really want to fight her again. Part of that though is that Ivy received development in that game, at least somewhat, compared to a lot of characters.
@@DegenerateJay I wanted to see her make Plant monsters like that BTAS episode where she wanted a family of her own on her own terms . That would have been a great side mission that would have added a more creepy atmosphere to me. Imagine going to rescue a citizen from danger , only to have them transform into a golly green mini giant and try to kill you lol :)
A line during the perfect crime mission in Arkham knight suggests that Tim loeb’s “the long Halloween” is canon in the series. That could just be a reference or a throwaway line.
I had watched the first episode and wrote a long comment about the Great White Shark... And then I immediately watched this episode and was like: "those sons of biscuits were ten steps ahead of me" 😂
10.Doctor death 9.Calculator 8.Clue master 7.Owl man 6.Rat Catcher 5.Prometheus 4.music meister 3.Captain Boomerang 2.Amazo/Dr Ivo 1. Mr whisper/Bronze tiger Hopefully we could see these guys in an arkham origins sequel especially the top 5 As for a few heroes I'd like to see 3.Batwing(luke Fox) 2.Spoiler 1.Wildcat
I would love to see a magic themed Batman Arkham games where mystical things are happening to Batman because the question and the Spectre have a wager over Batman's soul like what happened in Batman brave and the bold so the main villain of the story would be Spectre and in the game could have as the new Scarecrow/mad Hatter you could have rag man you could have rat catcher as a side mission along with Prometheus and someone like killer moth
We need the joker in the new game. He also needs like 5 joker side missions. Edit: Yay I have a highlighted comment! It’s almost 2020 and no Arkham game. :(
A cool idea I came up with 7:00 into the video would be if you fail a trial, which would be even more frustrating than the Riddler's trials...so frustrating it's impossible to complete the first time around, he would send you further into the future, maybe when Batman was gone and just a children's tale, or back in time when Batman didn't even exist. To get back to present you'd have to complete a series of trials, same difficulty as before but not prone to fail, the trials consist of races, fights, etc. If you fail you go further ip the line or down the line in history until you learn his pattern depending on where where you are in time. Side note, trials vary in past and present. When you finally return to present time and beat his first trial he'll be gone and you'd have to find him using your mad detective skills. Once found, you'd have to use all your knowledge you've learned over the last, how ever long it took, to fight him. Fights will vary depending on your journey to past or future. Once beaten you learn that he's really in metropolis sipping on a martini at 12:00 AM while you're being batman and punching the crap out of the decoy and sending h to Jail. JK. Once you defeat him you get the satisfaction of beating the crap out of him and sending him to jail. Like you did in Arkham Origins
I think if they added caviler, Kg Beast and Flamingo to the game it would be quite cool to see how they could work in the world and would probably make more people aware of them
I enjoyed the version of Maxie Zeus that appeared in The Batman, where he goes mad after losing an election to Mayor Hill and decides to take over instead. Count Vertigo shows up more as a Green Arrow villain these days, but he's scrapped with Bats plenty of times. He could take over Scarecrow's role, using his powers to turn Gotham all Inception/Mirror Dimension-like. While Clayface could do this as well, shapechanger Jane Doe is a fresh face. She would impersonate various NPCs throughout the game world, and you'd have to spot her tells and expose her to learn where you can rescue the real person.
With a lot of the D list villains they really are just goofy and weird so for a revamp of say the rat catcher say he uses his rats to kill people and it’ll be a boss fight where you gotta get to him while avoiding a swarm of flesh eating rats. Or just keep em goofy
Personally, I think it would be great to see the Toyman in this coming game, since he's been referenced in three of the Arkham games, plus more ties to the larger DC universe would always be appreciated. A couple other wider universe villains I think would work are Black Manta, Captain Boomerang, Count Vertigo, and Prometheus; they're all pretty high-caliber non-Batman foes, but they're still relatively grounded and would fit well in the universe, I think.
Personally, I'd want: Prometheus, Cornelius Stirk, Humpty Dumpty, Kite Man, and, as stupid as it might seem, Condiment King. For Prometheus, he's literally Batman but evil, so he could definitely work as a secondary antagonist in the game, or at least for the first half of the game as a lead in to having to face the Talons, since the game is heavily implied, and basically confirmed to feature the Court of Owls. Or they could change up Prometheus just a little bit to have him be part of the Court of Owls as the leader of the Talons after you defeat Talon, kind of like how Deathstroke took over for Jason after you defeated him. For Cornelius Stirk, they could easily do what they did with Hush in City where you find several corpses missing their hearts, which eventually leads you to Cornelius Stirk, and to play off his power to make you see him as someone close, the boss fight could have Robin or someone join you in the fight, and Cornelius causes you to see himself as Robin, leading to a "Who do you take down" scenario. For Humpty Dumpty, they don't necessarily have to make it a boss fight, and it's a little morbid, but at random intervals have, like, broken toys or whatnot on the side of the road all of sudden being fixed and then at the right spot have Batman heart the blood curdling scream of a woman, follow the scream, and find Humpty trying to put his grandma back together again. Kite Man could be a fun one, not sure how they'd do it, probably similar to Firefly in Knight. As for Condiment King, which version they use depends on when it takes place. If it's Origins 2, they can have it be Buddy Standler, who in BTAS was a comedian brainwashed by Joker into believing he was the almighty Condiment King. The could change who brainwashed him, and have it to where Batman finds clues that, while to him in-game to keep the lore isn't too obvious, but to us is clearly Hugo Strange testing out brainwashing techniques and using Buddy as a test subject. If it's after Knight, however, they can use the Mitchell Mayo version. With him, they can go with the Final Crisis story of Mayo, Sportsmaster, Human Flame, and Mr. Polka Dot working for General Immortus and "improved" by Professor Milo, but have this all to take down Batman. And as an extra pick, I hope Calendar Man is an actual villain this time instead of just a cameo, like City, Origins, and Knight.
What I would love to see is Baby doll/Mary Dahl in the game. In the animated Series, she was such a heartbreaking character that just wanted to be normal and, when you involve Killer Croc as her boyfriend, it only became more noticeable that she just wanted a normal life. If she could be integrated into the game as a side quest that digs into her past, it would be amazing. Another character that I would like to see done right is the Riddler. Yes, he is in the games but they don't do his character justice. There was at one point that he was a private investigator and i haven't seen anything other than the comic books flesh that out to what it deserves. Maybe he could be an ally in the game that helps Batman but slowly devolves back into the insane character that he is portrayed as in the other Arkham games.
I'm amazed that Professor Pyg was in the Arkham Knight game, but you need to add Maximillian Zeus, as he was in "The Batman" cartoon. Another character from the the Batman: the Animated Series cartoon is Baby-Dahl. But, there was also the former Arkham Asylum prison guard from the Batman cartoon should be included in the game.
Time trials were only hard in riddler trophy gathering in Knight, wasn't even a time trial but having to do ___ before ___ while probably balancing multiple elements of it. The pinball one in the tunnel and the 2 electral charges felt tighter than ones with a legit time limit to complete
Killer moth in the Batman series got mutated into a giant talking moth so you could say that Jason killed him while he was transporting mutagen but he mutated instead of dying as a way of having him post knight
i think it would be better if rat catcher was just in 1 or 2 scenes at the start of the game where batman just catches him talking to rats, but near to the end he has mastered the ability yo talk to rats and you have a boss fight with him where you just throw batarangs at rats
I want to see Prometheus. Because he is motivated like Batman but in reverse. I'd also like to see more of the villains they haven't really made use of. Hush was last locked in the holding cells at Wayne Tower.. I'd like to see just a mob boss like Falcone.
If they do the court of owls you could do a story with Lincoln March and Bruce finding out he is his brother and you could him finding out secrets about Gotham and even his own family
Killer Moth The Ventriloquist Prometheus Cluemaster Mister Bloom Kite man Cornelius Stirk Dollhouse Dollmaker The Flamingo Maxie Zeus Abbatoir Jane Doe
If they could have the people who did the Easter eggs for Asylum, The story of City, The Boss fights of Origins, And the graphics of Knight then that would be game of the year
Robot Batman from TAS would be neat to intercept it from killing people to pin it on Batman and if you fail you get a gta like police meter making you have to evade them until you manage to beat it mean a time trial that can be failed without a game over sequence. And if WB does it then spawn as an Azreal like encounter since there was a crossover comic a long time ago.
What about Gear head as a minor side villain, could make for some fun Batmobile race levels as you have to chase down his car or something like that, more like racing against a car rather than just a time trial
They should really do Baby Doll from The Animated Series. It's just the right amount of weird & novel to make for a really memorable, isolated side mission. They could even tie it into Panessa Studios from Knight, if they want. I'd also really like to see: More Clayface Royal Flush gang Ratcatcher Calendar Man (proper sidequest this time)
A King Shark/Killer Croc double boss fight would be insane.
Watch the flash tv show idk what season but they fight
@@gamingmelon08 That's Grodd VS King Shark
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It’s season five episode 14
And that would be epic
Two face (first encounter)
Owl man
Killer moth
Dr. Death
Anarky
Anarky is in origins
Sae Wong owlman was a Justice league villain and this game is purely based on Batman and the bat family
The Lincoln March owlman or the earth 3 owlman?
Calendar Man
How do you think owl man would work in this? Not trying to be condescending, genuinely asking
I’d love for The Dollmaker (Barton Mathis) to appear with his family. Having these dark villains would fit with the universe and have some creepy parts. Think even more messed up Professor Pyg type material.
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Here's my list of some sort of unknown villains who would be super fun missions.
Black Spider - He's a ninja who kills mobsters-- specifically mobsters who supply drugs.
Catman - Pretty similar to Batman, he's very skilled and I personally think he has a cool costume.
Killer Moth - You mentioned him already, he's just a neat character.
Prometheus - You mentioned him in your last video regarding the villains you want to see.
King Shark - Very interesting and cool character, he could make for some fun missions.
James Gordon Jr. - I know very little about him, but he seems very interesting.
Joe Chill - Not really a villain, but I would absolutely love to see Batman confront Joe in an Arkham game.
Doll Maker - Very creepy guy, but I don't know a lot about him. Could make for some cool Mad Hatter type missions.
These aren't villains, but they're people who I want to see in an Arkham game.
The Question - He's such a cool and interesting character, I'd love for him to be in an Arkham game.
Red Robin - Depending on when the game takes place of course.
Damian Wayne - Again, depending on when the game takes place.
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I like your list a lot, especially the final 2 (Chill and Doll Maker). I'd also love to see The Question show up. He's a character like Arrow that would work as well because you aren't introducing someone like Superman into that story that could end the conflict fairly quickly, if we're assuming Batman is going up against flesh and blood human beings. We know characters like Superman are out there in the ArkhamVerse, but we don't see them I think for that reason. Question or Arrow would negate that problem while allowing fan service and introducing more characters.
@@juanitajohnson6941 they technically could since Tockman has an antique store in Knight! I talked about the one version cause I'm more familiar with him and also I'm not sure which version of Clockman Red Hood supposedly killed in this universe.
Aren't Killer Moth and Black Spider confirmed to have been killed by Red Hood?
I hope we get the whole family, nightwing, robin(damian) red robin(tim obivously) and the red hood, also the return of batgirl
But I see those more like a side villians. It would be really cool to have Talon and the Court of Owls as main antagonists (not like Joker, but like Mr. Freeze for example)
i really want to see onomatopoeia, he doesn’t get much attention or recognition
I didn't remember that villain at all. He's really cool actually! AND it would make sense with Batman since he targets non-powered vigilantes. That's a deep cut but it would really fit.
I think that'd cause a big boom within the community. There'd be a huge buzz about it.
Yeah that would be cool, be isn’t he a green arrow villain?
Onomatopoeia started as green arrow then moved on to bats where he did some bad stuff to Bruce
The reason the timeline was so screwed up is that during the writing process for Asylum, the character bios are the histories of the characters as they appeared in the Post-crisis 1986 timeline in DC comics since the game was a love letter to that specific era of DC.
Yeah it seemed to me like there were sort of 2 mindsets at work in that game. 1 was what you just said. It seemed to be a love letter to comics and the comic continuity that wasn't fully concerned with its own timeline. However, the 2nd was that they were working on building their own timeline that was self-contained, which we can see even in the Arkham City plans found in Arkham Asylum as that hidden easter egg. It makes that game difficult to talk about because everyone argues about aspects of the lore.
I personally think and like to think Origins isn't canon
@@thelittlemanfromthedraftbo6805 Why? Origins is interesting, and is my second favorite arkham game with city at the top. Origins does well, and shows off the bane we see in modern comics, a smart strategist, and gives an explanation for why he's a dumb brute in asylum because he took a prototype of TN-1 or as we know it in arkham asylum and city the Titan formula, the deathstroke boss fight really works, and sure we got joker as the main villain again, who cares? the arkham series if you just look at the four games is about the twisted relationship between joker and batman. Origins is the origin of the relationship, with batman learning that he's not alone in his mission by the end of the game, Asylum is setting up the world, its purely world building and setting up city, where city is the end of the relationship between batman and joker with knight as the result of the break up. you could skip asylum and city, and origins to knight works in terms of theme and story work. Origins being about batman accepting that he is a Man not a Myth and allowing himself to have a family, with Knight showing the consequences of being a Man and having the responsibility of the Batman and the consequences of creating his batfamily. Sure origins has a lot of glitches, its not fully fledged out, its just arkham city reskinned, but these are all complaints that are unneccesary. Origins was made by WB montreal as FILLER. to fill in that four year gap between city and knight's release dates. Heck reusing the arkham city map was probably a very smart decision as batman is still, unsurprisingly, working in gotham. Gotham city is not going to change very much during the ten year gap between origins and knight. Heck in arkham knight you can see arkham island, and arkham city, and the amusement park from the batgirl dlc, all of it is just cut off from the mainland. Not to mention in origins we actually got to walk around in the batcave! We got to see what version one of the batcave in the arkhamverse looked like! I'd love to see it as it develops with the series, for example maybe batman does the same thing he does in BTAS and collects momentos of the villains he's fought, like for example the giant penny and the T-Rex but because this is batcave version one before these events have happened they weren't in origins, which makes sense from a timeline perspective. No matter where you look at it origins fits in, i dont understand why people dont want it to be cannon because it clearly is, and it works perfectly that way! Just because your mad about one detail or another doesn't mean you can disqualify it from continuity altogether. Say i didn't like the batman who laughs (my favorite dark knights metal character) and decided to say that the entirety of the Dark Knights medal storyline was noncannon, you'd be outraged that this numbskull hates a story you find interesting just because they dont like one character. thats how i feel about origins haters as they have no reason to hate origins. And yes this is an essay response, deal with it!
@@thelittlemanfromthedraftbo6805 It is canon
@@urticantspoon9960 my personal favourite is also origins. Loved the story, Music was godly, and that scene where alfred dies is so tragic(yes he's brought back to life but TECHNICALLY Alfred died). Bane is a genuine threat, the development of Gordon excepting batman in the end and my absolute favourite TROY MF'ing BACKER as JOKER he's so good that when I first played I thought Mark was doing he's voice but sort've changed it abit to sound young. ORIGINS TO ME IS CANON AND GOLD TEAR
Killer moth
The ventriloquist
Calender man
Black mask
Tweedledee Tweedledum
Black spider
Ragdoll
Great white shark
Maxie Zeus
Captain boomerang
Prometheus
Red omen
Crazy quilt
Humpty Dumpty
Toymaker
I add ratcatcher
What about kite-man, you gotta have em
Good list I would love to have all of them but I personally really want great white shark and ratcatcher
@@alexberqui5366 I'm sure he'll definitely be in it
Like ratcatcher and kiteman, you could add Mad Hatter again alongside the Tweeds if people aren't tired of fighting him.
I'd love for Riddler to actually be the big bad, a mastermind orchestrator who pits Batman against a slurry of enemies, similar to the Hush comic series, instead of just a giant collection side mission.
I think Prometheus, Scarface, Solomon Grundy, Ragdoll, and Lord Death Man would be some fun new editions.
Just no Joker, please.
And if they do a sequel to Knight, which I hope they don't personally, it better be Court of Owls. Owlman would be a sick re-occuring event boss.
But I'd rather have a sequel to Origin where Joker is already locked up and you are hunting down Riddler as he sends you on a crazy wild-goose chase through Villian-ville.
Especially because if you open the door in batman Arkham origins after gaining all the datapacks you receive the first riddler trophy ever. I know because I made sure to collect them all because they at the very least served a tiny purpose unlike the riddler trophys
How would Owlman appear?
The Ventriloquist would actually be amazing to have, such an interesting character in my opinion. His gun is in the trophy room as well.
I would like them to give zsasz more of a purpose in the games than just someone who kidnaps people and has a small role
He did have a role in Asylum
h h Not really he was just an introduction for the game
It would be cool to see something like his role in nightfall
Yes he’s literally one of the most creepy villains I’d like to see a jump scare type boss with him where he tries to stab Batman in a house of mirrors or something
@@agent1466 they can make him like the Victor Zsasz from gotham the series. He was an amazing character
I assume they'll make a dlc similar to season of infamy a few months after the games release.
I also wonder if they make a Soulja Boy Console exclusive DLC.
Ha ha hilarious dead joke
I hope that Man-Bat appears again, considering that he escaped the GCPD in Knight.
Love the list, personally I’d like to see:
Prometheus
Ventriloquist/Scarface
Rag doll
Catwoman (Ik she’s in the series but I’d like to see a first encounter type thing)
Killer moth
Doctor phosphorus ( just to see the graphics and also the fight could be interesting, maybe there’s parts where he can’t be hit or some moves which do double damages etc)
Darth Hope batman first encountered catwoman in arkham origins blackgate.
KIAN MAHBOD is that canon? I wasn’t sure if it was part of the main canon or if it was unconfirmed
Not gonna lie, Prometheus might deserve his own DLC as an antagonist.
Darth Hope as far as I know nobody has said it is or isn't. I don't personally think it contradicted much of anything from what I remember. Regardless it's not that good of a game or story from what I recall, either. People bring it up sometimes and other times everyone wants to forget Blackgate.
Degenerate Jay ohh okay. So there’s definitely room for it to be retconned like so much of the Arkham universe?
This is a random one, preferably just as a side quest, but i’d love to see Mr Bloom in some form.
Oh my word YES Bloom is given like no love at all.
mr bloom would be sooo gooood
DUDE YES. MR BLOOM ROCKS
John Doe seriously underrated
The Batman Agreed man, I don’t know what the chances are but I’m praying
My list of characters I want to return for this game.
Killer croc
Lady Shiva
Solomon Grundy
Bane
Copperhead
Deadshot
RED HOOD
Hush
Man-bat/she-bat
Anarky
And I can't remember the rest.
a lot of big guys in the beginning
Shiva had a pretty good boss fight in origins
@@TechnicalTim-oj5vv the boss fight was alright but the mission itself was one of the ones that seemed the most rushed. No cutscenes, only talking head dialogues.
@@Torthrodhel true
Yeah, she-bat was hinted at in arkham knight when francine langstrom's body disappeared. (if you go back there after completing the game her body is gone, also on halloween manbat breaks out again) Also i kinda liked Shiva's mission, it was interesting, and whilst it was mostly dialogue it pulled a hush mission and eluded to someone shiva called the master.
THE MUSIC MEISTER!
Very interesting idea! I like it! You could combine it with some of the combat and have it musically rhythm based.
@@DegenerateJay that reminds me that rocksteady for batman arkham asylum were originally going to make it a rhythm style game.
HE IS THE MUSIC MEISTEEEEEER!!! 🎶
@@JeZZa21_ AND WE ARE ALL HIS PAAAWNS...
Here's some more Villains that need to be in the Batman Game
1. Music Meister
2. The Terrible Trio
3. Phosphorus Rex
4. Killer Moth
5. Orca
6. Everywhere Man
7. The Ratcatcher
8. Bane
9. Mad Hatter
10. The Eraser
11. Maximilian Zeus
12. Poison Ivy
13. Zodiac Master
14. Spellbinder
15. Scarecrow
16. Magpie
17. King Tut
18. Kite Man
19. Deathstroke
20. Great White Shark
Bonus. The Dee Dee Twins,Professor Pyg,Deadshot,Black Spider,Ra's al Ghul,Black Mask,Solomon Grundy,Flamingo,Bird and The Cavalier
That's all,What do you all think of this list?
the dee dee twins its pretty impossible, cause arkham knight killed them, but your list is nice
Mr Bloom needs to show up
Ok you're making some of those up.
@@RadinV1 he isn't, (its worth googling thou)
@@spagettzeera8955 it's a joke quote from the lego batman movie genius.
10. Killer Moth (has been hinted at alot in the series and I'm disappointed that he hasn't appeared yet)
9. Ratcatcher (same with Killer Moth)
8. Royal Flush Gang (similar to my other suggestions in your other video I can imagine each part of that side quest being you hunting down each member)
7. Birthday Boy (since he's a serial killer with a birthday theme I can imagine this quest being like the Pyg or Hush quests from Knight and City)
6. Maxie Zeus (same with Ratcatcher and Killer Moth)
5. Humpty Dumpty (honestly not sure how this could work but I can imagine him being in charge of an army of people dressed like dolls or toys since he has the mind of a child)
4. Great White Shark (same thing as Killer Moth, Ratcatcher, and Maxie Zeus
3. Film Freak (same with Birthday Boy but with video tapes of his murders instead of the birthday theme)
2. Rag Doll (I can imagine him as a robber and you got to stop him from stealing whatever he's after using a different strategy each time)
1. The Victim Syndicate (again I'm not sure how this would work but I'd like to see it)
1.
Have Prometheus in it do a fight batman one on one
Do Batman Inc and go nuts!
1. Lord Death Man (Skeleton mobster, immortal and drives a supercar wielding a machine gun)
2. El Sombrero and Scorpiana (Trap design expert and cybernetic enhanced assassin with a scorpion tail)
3. Miss Hexley (Headmistress of a school training young women with mind drugs to be assassins)
4. The Heretic (Clone and trained assassin of Leviathan)
5. Wood Ape (Don't know much about him, but I assume he is an ape made of wood)
I always found it funny with how Clock King was typically depicted in the comics that for the animated series they basically made him look like The Bookworm from the 60's live action series and a copy of the BTAS Riddler design in one.
I want to see a awesome killer moth reimagining in this game
I want to see all different villains this time around. No Penguin, no Two-Face (unless we see the origin of him becoming Two-Face), no Riddler. I'm fine with Joker as long as it's a smaller part of the overall story. Give us all those villains they've teased in every game, but never show. Would also like to see the origin of Barbara becoming batgirl.
You guys hit a lot of the ones I'm wanting with this list.
You know what I would actually really like to see? A "Batman: War Games" inspired Arkham story.
Honestly, I really wanna see Dr. Grace Balin AKA Orca be in an Arkham game. You know, to have a varied substitute to Killer Croc, where Batman has to track down a monstrous figure at Gotham Docks or a similar area.
I think having to deal with the crime empires of Falcone, Black Mask (but actually using the character properly) and Maxi Zeus (and Penguin for continuity) would be an interesting game dynamic. For every encounter Batman has with a group of thugs, one of the other gangs gradually take over that area, so whilst Batman is trying to defeat the antagonist of a game. he also has to control the streets to prevent a gang war and general crime-doing.
Killer Moth and Ratcatcher in the next game is just doing the characters in this universe justice. Can't be mentioning them in any capacity without including an actual appearence.
I would love like, A side quest revolving around like how a bunch of low teir ridiculous Batman Villains all teaming up to achieve one goal. So like Rat catcher, Crazy Quilt, Kite Man, all those gimmicky silly supervillains. So the quest is going through them all and that waybyou can have a handful of those silly villains but not take up like half the side objectives.
Brainiac would be cool and it could maybe have other heroes in the game like superman as he has been confirmed to exist in that universe with the lexcorp buildings and thugs talking about 'a freak in metropolis" or something along those lines
I love your videos bro very logcial and entertaining
Thank you so much!
I am now a fan of rat catcher, thank you
Hugo Strange didn’t debut during the events of City, he was around long before we just didn’t see him
Both your first list and second list I agree with I’d also like to see in no particular order
1-Doctor Phosphorus
2-James gordon jr
3-Dollmaker
4-King shark
5-The calculator
I have many more in a wishlist but those are just some I’d like to see. I think that they could balance out the side missions with a number of predator ones and combat ones. Also I’d love to see team up missions where it’s 2 or more villains that u have to fight against
James Gordon Jr would be awesome.
Doll maker would be something like professor pygs side mission.
Dollmaker,killer moth,the ratcatcher,anarky,Arnold wesker
I'd like to see:
Klarion the Witch Boy (with Etrigan?)
The Joker's Daughter (side mission)
Ragdoll (side mission)
Owl Man (Main Villain?)
Anarchy (side mission)
King Shark (maybe fighting Killer Croc?)
Joe Chill (Flashback?)
Hush (did him dirty in knight, needs a proper story)
Blockbuster (sub boss? No need for a proper side mission, think Mr Hammer)
Ravager (side mission?)
A TMNT reference (nice nod to the comics)
Talon
Rumour
I'd have Harvey Dent becoming Two-Face if this is a Origins sequel. As well as the first meeting with Catwoman.
Perhaps put Wrath and Prometheus together as a tag team, brothers whose criminal parents got killed by cops then they each went down their own path of training to destroy all law enforcement, now they have reunited to take down the GCPD until Batman interferes and becomes the new target. Batman & a newly christened Nightwing vs Wrath & Prometheus.
Great video ! My 5 more villains "With real Boss fights' ....
1. Prometheus
2. Tally Man 2
3. Humpty Dumpty
4. Dr. Death
5. Magpie
Killer Moth is my number one. I mean can you just imagine
OH OH OH OH!!! Polka Dot Man, Kite Man and Condiment King too!
Polka Dot Man must be added
I always thought that the Clock King episode in BTAS was so underrated
Ratcatcher was also implied to be horrifically killed by Penguin in the Arkham City Stories. And Killer Moth’s gear is very clearly seen in the animated Arkham Suicide Squad movie.
We should get rat catcher because he's in The suicide Squad movie cross promtion and all that. Poor killer moth least he went out by a cool guy! I'd like to see calendar man actually out in the world
I also would love to see calendar man
However the game would have to be set in on a holiday
We already had haloween and Christmas so maybe easter ?
@@noahjones276 I think it's time we got a batman game over more than one to see seasons change day and night plus this would aid Clock King and calendar man cus you actually have a dead line a missable moment
@@andrebrown1835 That is actually a great idea because I'm always like how the he'll did batman meet the joker, bane , deathstroke, dead shot, killer Croc and other ALL IN ONE NIGHT. I'm talking about origins
@@noahjones276 it's a great concept definitely but after we sore spider man ps4 handle Peter parkers life so well batman/Bruce deserves time to shine in the sun plus there would be loads more character development, and that would be needed if there's a young Robin involved in the story
I agree the one night thing is making it harder and harder to tell full believable stories. It'd be easier to dump that and jump between days over the course of even a week imo.
I would love bronze tiger in arkham game
I would like to see the Reaper/the Phantasm
It'd be nice to see Black Mask even though he's been in these games. He's always pushed into a back seat role.
Great points, all of these villains definitely have an existing legacy in the Arkham franchise without ever being actually seen. Only 2 cents I would throw in is when mentioning the Arkham Knight: Genesis comic as the only 100% canon comic in the franchise; it's worth mentioning that the bios in the Arkham Knight game tell the story of Jason's capture by the Joker quite differently.
bloom and all the new 52 villains should be used ! but especially Bloom , the court of owls and the dollmaker plus the reaper for coop with damian wayne
Maybe they can get the writers of the killing joke and they can follow up on all those Harley Quinn pregnancy tests in city and have her give birth to a girl for only years later for Damien and her to "roof top" together. I mean the writers of the killing joke movie were masterfull... Right?
Deacon Blackfire would be an amazing antagonist with an Arkham style adaption of The Cult. Sadly Arkham Knight already did the city under siege that The Cult did first before TDKR and No man’s land ever did
I want Condiment King, Polka Dot Man, The Eraser, Egghead and Crazy Quilt as the main villains
In Batman Arkham Knight, you can hear that the Clock King was murdered by the Red Hood too
A little long, but my top picks for new Bat rougues
Maxie Zeus( industrialist who thinks he’s a god version)
Rat catcher( uses pesticides to increase aggressive behaviour in rats)
Killer Moth( a ridiculous imitation of Batman for criminals)
White Shark ( the games ‘mob boss’, instead of Penguin of Black Mask)
Black Spider( murderous ninja who takes down the mob and steals their money)
Steel jacket( a man with a skeletal condition which causes him to remain in a large metal suit to not break his brittle bones)
Cluemaster( the games Riddler, but sets clues)
Rag doll( quadrupole jointed theif)
Lockup( former GCPD officer who basically becomes the Punisher)
Ventriloquist( head of opposing organised crime, opposite to White Shark)
Narcosis( a scarecrow like villian who gives his victims vivid hallucinations by mixing Ketamine and Acetylcholine to create his dream gas)
KG Beast( the games Bane, but Russian)
Two villains I would like to see explore are 1)Humpty Dumpty since he first appeared in 1943 they haven't done anything with him.
2) A team up between the Mad hatter and Tweedledum & Tweedledee lol it could be funny to see which one is more crazy about alice in wonderland.
On villains that weren't good in Arkham Knight that they should bring back and do better is ...
Hush - I want the real Hush to show up one day in a arkham game and not that 5 second mess they gave us .
Man Bat - He should have been a scary boss fight with a "Firefly Origins' style arial battle . NOT give him his medicine and tuck him in for bed .
Two -Face - I'm tired of dealing with him in a few hits and it's over . Not sure how they can make it better , but that's why they get paid the big bucks !
Red Hood - His entire "Arkham Knight" Identity was a huge let down for me and I wanted to see him as Red Hood killing villains and fighting the Bat-family like in the comics . Not a Super Tank fight , Not a Super Drill chase , but a Real Fight .
Poison Ivy - I was hoping for another plant monster fight with her , but she ended up saving the city instead . Kind of a let down for me .
I agree with all of these, except for Poison Ivy. I thought that having her redeem herself was one of the best aspects of the game, honestly. I didn't really want to fight her again. Part of that though is that Ivy received development in that game, at least somewhat, compared to a lot of characters.
@@DegenerateJay I wanted to see her make Plant monsters like that BTAS episode where she wanted a family of her own on her own terms . That would have been a great side mission that would have added a more creepy atmosphere to me. Imagine going to rescue a citizen from danger , only to have them transform into a golly green mini giant and try to kill you lol :)
My ideas for characters (not only villains):
-Bronze Tiger
-KGBeast
-Calendar Man
-Creeper
-Question
If they do a post-Knight game with Killer Moth in it, they could ressurect him as Charaxes (which is basically a Man-Bat but a moth instead)
Jack Ryder becoming the Creeper
A line during the perfect crime mission in Arkham knight suggests that Tim loeb’s “the long Halloween” is canon in the series. That could just be a reference or a throwaway line.
I had watched the first episode and wrote a long comment about the Great White Shark...
And then I immediately watched this episode and was like: "those sons of biscuits were ten steps ahead of me" 😂
Ratcatcher’s gear is also clearly displayed on Cash’s desk in Arkham Knight btw
I'd like to see Mr. Bloom
You and me both actually
10.Doctor death
9.Calculator
8.Clue master
7.Owl man
6.Rat Catcher
5.Prometheus
4.music meister
3.Captain Boomerang
2.Amazo/Dr Ivo
1. Mr whisper/Bronze tiger
Hopefully we could see these guys in an arkham origins sequel especially the top 5
As for a few heroes I'd like to see
3.Batwing(luke Fox)
2.Spoiler
1.Wildcat
1. The Ventriloquist
2. Catman
3. Clock King
4. Maxie Zeus
5. Prometheus
6. Cheshire
7. Black Spider
8. Magpie
9. Roxy Rocket
10. Baby Doll
I would love to see a magic themed Batman Arkham games where mystical things are happening to Batman because the question and the Spectre have a wager over Batman's soul like what happened in Batman brave and the bold so the main villain of the story would be Spectre and in the game could have as the new Scarecrow/mad Hatter you could have rag man you could have rat catcher as a side mission along with Prometheus and someone like killer moth
We need the joker in the new game. He also needs like 5 joker side missions.
Edit: Yay I have a highlighted comment! It’s almost 2020 and no Arkham game. :(
Fuck Batman, this is Joker’s game now
I think joker is overused
Technical Tim flips I was being sarcastic
@@RealMikeWazowski ok
How about a list of 5 major changes you want to see and 5 things you don't want them to change.
A cool idea I came up with 7:00 into the video would be if you fail a trial, which would be even more frustrating than the Riddler's trials...so frustrating it's impossible to complete the first time around, he would send you further into the future, maybe when Batman was gone and just a children's tale, or back in time when Batman didn't even exist. To get back to present you'd have to complete a series of trials, same difficulty as before but not prone to fail, the trials consist of races, fights, etc. If you fail you go further ip the line or down the line in history until you learn his pattern depending on where where you are in time. Side note, trials vary in past and present. When you finally return to present time and beat his first trial he'll be gone and you'd have to find him using your mad detective skills. Once found, you'd have to use all your knowledge you've learned over the last, how ever long it took, to fight him. Fights will vary depending on your journey to past or future. Once beaten you learn that he's really in metropolis sipping on a martini at 12:00 AM while you're being batman and punching the crap out of the decoy and sending h to Jail. JK. Once you defeat him you get the satisfaction of beating the crap out of him and sending him to jail. Like you did in Arkham Origins
Also I know the Clock Kingwasn't mentioned at 7 minutes I was just pondering about it afterwards
To me Great White Shark is more like a mix between Black Mask and Tombstone.
LMAO I'm dying at the part where the Red Hood just straight-up fucking kills Killer Moth for no reason omf
Prometheus would be a Great side mission and it would work since we know He Exist within The Arkhamverse
I’m so glad to see the Batman games coming back
I think if they added caviler, Kg Beast and Flamingo to the game it would be quite cool to see how they could work in the world and would probably make more people aware of them
I enjoyed the version of Maxie Zeus that appeared in The Batman, where he goes mad after losing an election to Mayor Hill and decides to take over instead.
Count Vertigo shows up more as a Green Arrow villain these days, but he's scrapped with Bats plenty of times. He could take over Scarecrow's role, using his powers to turn Gotham all Inception/Mirror Dimension-like.
While Clayface could do this as well, shapechanger Jane Doe is a fresh face. She would impersonate various NPCs throughout the game world, and you'd have to spot her tells and expose her to learn where you can rescue the real person.
Congrats on the Chanel growth
Clock King could manipulate time in a psychological way against Batman, kinda like an inspiration to Mad Hatter sort of thing.
I know she's been in the games but I'd like to see Harley without any joker connection left and where she's at if it's after Knight
Killer Moth and Man Bat (as a boss, not a side mission encounter) would be really cool
Would be cool to see some of the side mission villains team up to fight batman
With a lot of the D list villains they really are just goofy and weird so for a revamp of say the rat catcher say he uses his rats to kill people and it’ll be a boss fight where you gotta get to him while avoiding a swarm of flesh eating rats. Or just keep em goofy
Personally, I think it would be great to see the Toyman in this coming game, since he's been referenced in three of the Arkham games, plus more ties to the larger DC universe would always be appreciated. A couple other wider universe villains I think would work are Black Manta, Captain Boomerang, Count Vertigo, and Prometheus; they're all pretty high-caliber non-Batman foes, but they're still relatively grounded and would fit well in the universe, I think.
Personally, I'd want: Prometheus, Cornelius Stirk, Humpty Dumpty, Kite Man, and, as stupid as it might seem, Condiment King. For Prometheus, he's literally Batman but evil, so he could definitely work as a secondary antagonist in the game, or at least for the first half of the game as a lead in to having to face the Talons, since the game is heavily implied, and basically confirmed to feature the Court of Owls. Or they could change up Prometheus just a little bit to have him be part of the Court of Owls as the leader of the Talons after you defeat Talon, kind of like how Deathstroke took over for Jason after you defeated him. For Cornelius Stirk, they could easily do what they did with Hush in City where you find several corpses missing their hearts, which eventually leads you to Cornelius Stirk, and to play off his power to make you see him as someone close, the boss fight could have Robin or someone join you in the fight, and Cornelius causes you to see himself as Robin, leading to a "Who do you take down" scenario. For Humpty Dumpty, they don't necessarily have to make it a boss fight, and it's a little morbid, but at random intervals have, like, broken toys or whatnot on the side of the road all of sudden being fixed and then at the right spot have Batman heart the blood curdling scream of a woman, follow the scream, and find Humpty trying to put his grandma back together again. Kite Man could be a fun one, not sure how they'd do it, probably similar to Firefly in Knight. As for Condiment King, which version they use depends on when it takes place. If it's Origins 2, they can have it be Buddy Standler, who in BTAS was a comedian brainwashed by Joker into believing he was the almighty Condiment King. The could change who brainwashed him, and have it to where Batman finds clues that, while to him in-game to keep the lore isn't too obvious, but to us is clearly Hugo Strange testing out brainwashing techniques and using Buddy as a test subject. If it's after Knight, however, they can use the Mitchell Mayo version. With him, they can go with the Final Crisis story of Mayo, Sportsmaster, Human Flame, and Mr. Polka Dot working for General Immortus and "improved" by Professor Milo, but have this all to take down Batman. And as an extra pick, I hope Calendar Man is an actual villain this time instead of just a cameo, like City, Origins, and Knight.
I’d love to see music meister
iiGalaxyyy wasn’t his shop in Knight?
Who?
What I would love to see is Baby doll/Mary Dahl in the game. In the animated Series, she was such a heartbreaking character that just wanted to be normal and, when you involve Killer Croc as her boyfriend, it only became more noticeable that she just wanted a normal life. If she could be integrated into the game as a side quest that digs into her past, it would be amazing.
Another character that I would like to see done right is the Riddler. Yes, he is in the games but they don't do his character justice. There was at one point that he was a private investigator and i haven't seen anything other than the comic books flesh that out to what it deserves. Maybe he could be an ally in the game that helps Batman but slowly devolves back into the insane character that he is portrayed as in the other Arkham games.
I'm amazed that Professor Pyg was in the Arkham Knight game, but you need to add Maximillian Zeus, as he was in "The Batman" cartoon. Another character from the the Batman: the Animated Series cartoon is Baby-Dahl. But, there was also the former Arkham Asylum prison guard from the Batman cartoon should be included in the game.
Time trials were only hard in riddler trophy gathering in Knight, wasn't even a time trial but having to do ___ before ___ while probably balancing multiple elements of it. The pinball one in the tunnel and the 2 electral charges felt tighter than ones with a legit time limit to complete
Condiment King in a new Batman game would be like the electrocutioner fight in Arkham origins
Killer moth in the Batman series got mutated into a giant talking moth so you could say that Jason killed him while he was transporting mutagen but he mutated instead of dying as a way of having him post knight
i think it would be better if rat catcher was just in 1 or 2 scenes at the start of the game where batman just catches him talking to rats, but near to the end he has mastered the ability yo talk to rats and you have a boss fight with him where you just throw batarangs at rats
I want to see Prometheus. Because he is motivated like Batman but in reverse.
I'd also like to see more of the villains they haven't really made use of.
Hush was last locked in the holding cells at Wayne Tower..
I'd like to see just a mob boss like Falcone.
They need to add
Amygadalia
Chesire
Catman
Tigress
Kite man from rebirth
Are cheshire and tigress sisters or is that just in the young justice show?
I want to see Prometheus and ventriloquist.
If they do the court of owls you could do a story with Lincoln March and Bruce finding out he is his brother and you could him finding out secrets about Gotham and even his own family
Killer Moth
The Ventriloquist
Prometheus
Cluemaster
Mister Bloom
Kite man
Cornelius Stirk
Dollhouse
Dollmaker
The Flamingo
Maxie Zeus
Abbatoir
Jane Doe
mr bloom would be sooo gooood
There's potential for the Ratcatcher to be terrifying in the Arkham games, especially if they made him into a Willard-like character.
If they could have the people who did the Easter eggs for Asylum, The story of City, The Boss fights of Origins, And the graphics of Knight then that would be game of the year
Id love to see the battle for the cape story and court of owls either
Robot Batman from TAS would be neat to intercept it from killing people to pin it on Batman and if you fail you get a gta like police meter making you have to evade them until you manage to beat it mean a time trial that can be failed without a game over sequence. And if WB does it then spawn as an Azreal like encounter since there was a crossover comic a long time ago.
There’s a newspaper article on killer moth in asylum too.
I’d love to see a matured anarky after origins, maybe becoming something on the level of V from V for vendetta
Also, if you did Killer Moth, you could do Charaxes and do it similarly to the Man-Bat missions in Knight.
Top 5 villains I want are Batzaro,Talon,Owlman,possibly Superman,and Killer moth
What about Gear head as a minor side villain, could make for some fun Batmobile race levels as you have to chase down his car or something like that, more like racing against a car rather than just a time trial
They should really do Baby Doll from The Animated Series. It's just the right amount of weird & novel to make for a really memorable, isolated side mission. They could even tie it into Panessa Studios from Knight, if they want.
I'd also really like to see:
More Clayface
Royal Flush gang
Ratcatcher
Calendar Man (proper sidequest this time)