I actually like this OFF META pick this student had - LoL Coaching
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- I fully support off meta picks as long as they are viable, especially ones like this.
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Was it just me or did anybody else bust out laughing when neace said "they're bronze, their pings mean nothing to us" lol
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to be honest it doesn't mean anything to them either.
I had to rewind to hear him say it again
Didn't laugh.
I thought to myself " I should do that more, can't always be selfless with these guys and play as a team. "
@@chanmonychea2995 Another way to look at it is that most of them are about where they need to be. there can be many reasons from mechanics to macro. It's probably for the best not to listen to them.
But if you see someone making good calls and playing right then odds are they are on the climb. help em out.
Update for those who are interested: As of 6/10/22, he's hit Gold 2 with Kalista top. Literally, 2 tiers in 4 months. All he really needed to climb was build and role correction from Neace.
I’m really not surprised. I think anyone can hit gold in this game if they kinda turn on their brain.
@@scumnextdoor the problem is that there’s too much information that people don’t know how to use. even if i turned on my brain and gathered all the info i needed, i simply would not know what to do with it. i feel like unless you really study the game, or have someone guide you through it, you won’t do even remotely good. a lot of people just don’t want to put in hours of studying just to play one game and still risk losing bcs others didn’t do that.
His mechanics is not bronze lv at all IMO
@@scumnextdoor Not true. League isnt a game you can just turn on, hop in, grind and get good. This game literally requires homework for lack of a better term.
@@Jack-op8bb tbh his makro is bronze for sure but good player otherwise
I am an otp Kalista and I have to tell you: respect for this guy. He may be in bronze but he really knows this champ, his combo for wave clear is a little clunky but ok. Back in the days I played a lot Kalista in bronze and I remember a lot of games like this!
EDIT:
Except for the build and runes in other games WTF
as a kallista main what do you think about not taking tier 2 boots sooner for dash length?
@@Donttypetome I think it's absolutely legit, you'd prefer ninja tabi because you really need that extra survivability and at the same time with berserkers you take too much attack speed, and that is not good because the 66% attack speed conversion in dash/s due to your passive. But at the same time ninja tabi are not good super early game because you want damage in lane to abuse. Dash length doesn't matter because your trade pattern in lane is usually with Q on enemy that prock also E when you pop a minion, while when you do a straight 2v2 you are already on enemy.
I hope I was clear :)
what do you think about the Poppy matchup? Is it doable or is that an instant dodge?
His kiting needs work
@@andrewnguyen2052 not OP but it’s dodge. Matchup
This guy is dutch hahahaha, his name paprikaantje (actually written als paprika) is a pepper, and I instantly recognize dutch accents being a dutchy myself. Thumbs up for all my fellow dutch hardstucks who wanna climb :p
Klopt
Ja is echt goed tehoren😂
Paprika is not only dutch word lolz
@@teslaking1560 ye but turning it into paprikaantje is
@@teslaking1560 I know it's not, I was just referring to how he spelled his name
So we're ignoring that Kalista Jungle game he won? 😭😭🤝🏼
You can win even with soraka jg in bronze lol
kalista jungle is actually really good i have found
@@xandro-7840 Having some success doesn't make it good. For a champion to be good in the jungle it has to be well rounded, good at skirmishing, be good at ganks, have a fast and healthy jungle clear, etc. Actual jungle champions far outperform kalista at those things.
Its the lowest jng winrate in the game,it just bronze things
I mean he played vs mf jg..
For anyone interested, hes up to silver 2 already, pretty cool. This has me wanting to try Kalista top, I loved the champion, but he's totally right a lot of support players don't know how to play with a Kalista, especially in lower elo.
Nice update ^^
a lot of support players don't know how to play, especially in lower elo.
I wont respect it till plat
@@Kvh47 up til high diamond basically. The bar is set very low for support
Hes gold now, the coaching session must've helped him alot
its wild that shifting from mid to top was the only thing holding this guy back from this lol. you dont just accidentally stumble onto 10+ cs per minute. he clearly has the basics down to a science. If he remembers this session, he'll easily break gold.
I don’t think that was the only thing. Learning some of the stuff like “don’t greed for the plate”, more efficient farming, playing more aggressively when ahead are all things he wasn’t doing very well
He made it to gold 2 as of 6/10/22 :)
i mean he is fucking OTP kalista
prob the hardest adc to otp, he HAS to have good mechanics. his autos are not bronze level, his wave clear is very good, hes got a good grasp of layering damage, and his kiting and dodging is very good
literally all he had to do was go top. dude's very good and is now gold
@@yurilopes420 kalista is really not that hard, you just use attack move click and you're good
@@Failzz8 not like most people would say she is the hardest or 2nd hardest adc but yeah totally she pretty easy
I absolutely adore Kalista, and it's depressing to constantly hear "she's a garbage champion, don't play her" from most high elo streamers/players. Thank you for giving someone else who loves this champion a chance!
She bad in the hand of most ADC mains, I would say.
she is bad tho if you want to climb you simply shouldnt play her
You two guys are unbeliavable. He said its depressing not that he doesn't agree with it. Learn to read for fucks sake. Internet professors.
@@yassinazarkan4207 would I climb a little faster if I just abused some shit like Ziggs bot? Probably. But I would also have way less fun than I do playing Kalista, and why play a video game if you aren't having fun?
@@mintegral1719 ziggs bot is not really so good like he used to tbh...
I think that ap cho gath mid with Everfrost is SUPER underrated. It has strong waveclear, insane cc and strong dmg. It also has rly good solokill potentail because ppl disrespect his cc and dmg output.
AP with sakitorou's HOB or Nemesis' predator page?
@@peperoni9757 i personally prefer predator for soloq, but i think u can make both work.
Yes it is Nemisis played it some time ago in corean challangr and it should still be as strong
I prefer with rocket belt for the dash ult
AP malph with everfrost too
This was fun to watch. I think the student was shocked at the build. I don't play Kalista, but I love life steal builds. It's some of the most broken shit in the game
As a plat player I have to say this guy actually has pretty good micro and technique in the jg and wave. Like when he cleared that wolves gromp blue he leashed everything really well for a bronze player. Especially for not being a jg main.
As a former plat player who left rankeds for arams 2 years ago: my micro has never been as good as his.
kaista is the perfect noob elo champ because almost no one picks her almost no one especially melee champ players have no idea how to play against her and her jumping back with every auto drives melee champs completely crazy its the most tilting shit ever
imma try this :D looks fun top :D especially in my pleb bronze elo :))
@@lolozaur13 very hard champ to play, but if you get good, it's super rewarding. Probably the hardest mechanical champ in the game
@@dannyherr6628 lol what she plays like Draven but easy
Maybe top lane, but playing her ADC in low elo is kinda miserable (ask me how I know, lmao). Supports do not know how to play with her, and sometimes straight up don't even know what she does. I had a Blitz support recently who flamed me for "not throwing him in" the first time I ulted him... I'm like, buddy, that's your job!
Ez counter play is just pick a engage cc champ
been watching for a long time but never subbed. The background lo-fi you put instead of the game sounds is like watching a whole new video. I love it. It allows me to focus more on your input towards the game rather than hearing all the pings and damage and sound FX. The shift in music made this video 10 fold informative. Subbed for sure now ! I hope i see more of this going forward, loved it.
I LOVE how you encourage him to just see how strong he is at the end
Edit: dude, he is gold 3 now, still rocking kalista!
I see morde went with the 3 minute gg strat of hard engaging a level down into a gargantuan wave. This guy has at least gold mechanics, no way he should be in bronze
neace brought A LOT of value to this guy in this coaching. If he takes this coaching in, I don't see why he couldn't climb to gold easily
He is Gold rn
My off-meta pick: Jinx Jungle with Fleet Footwork.
Free Tiamat at Lv 1. Since S11, jungle changes made Hailblade/Emberknife give omnivamp, Which means you heal fully from the AoE damage of your rockets. Starting chickens/wolf with no leash. Lv 2 W if you going to clear, you can use it to kite single camps. Lv 2 E if you going for a flank cheese gank like Twitch
It's not much more dangerous than playing Twitch/Karth and people underestimate the utility that a 70% slow and 5 seconds of zone control + knockdown Jinx provides. Save chompers for when you absolutely need them. Also, you can Chompers on blast cones so the enemy can't jump to steal objectives and such. You use them to cut someone off.
Red Smite into Noonquiver into Runaan's and tanky boots Mercs/Tabis. After this you DEVOUR jungle farm.
I like Shieldbow, because combined with Red Smite damage reduction, Last Stand, Fleet's movespeed and not being lower level because you're bot gives you some unexpected 1v1 potential. People underestimate the power of a rank 5 130% free attack speed Pow Pow.
You can build Kraken+LDR if you need shred and you can buy both Execs or Serpents if your team needs it.
One caveat tho. The whole playstyle is keeping them at max range and becoming juke central.
I take Nimbus Cloak and Gathering Storm. But you can make a case for Booties+Biscuits or Bone Plating+Overgrowth/Unflinching. It's safer
Highest rank is Silver. So, don't listen to me.
What the fuck
I like the deaths dance call on kalista, I've been rocking this gem pick item on her awhile now it fits so well with how she wins fights.
@@dizzik3723 deaths dance is better than it was before tho
My favorite off-meta pick is asol support. glacial augment, evenshroud, and from there you can either go standard health-ap items or just tank with frozen heart and abyssal mask.
wait i am confused as to why he got noon quiver over tier two boots. kalistas leap speed and range are based off which boots she has and it makes the attack animation quicker because the leap happens quicker
wants to hit the shieldbow powerspike sooner. item is super strong even after nerf
@@itsvenom6301 also probably neace didnt know that thing about boots increasing AA dash range as he said himself he doesnt know nuances about kalista that much but who knows...
I was thinking the same thing. I feel it's not too big a deal either way
@@AdamNisenziSpisak because the aa dash range didn't matter that much at the stage of the game he was at. There was nobody that could even fight him and he wouldn't need to group anytime soon.
noon quiver is too good for early damage
"so you want everybody to play around your goofy shit..." dude I love your frank, honest reactions - pretty sure that alone has helped improve my game.
If this guy puts the things you taught him in his gameplay he will hit gold effortlessly 100%. I can't say that about a ton of your clients.
edit: he will probably hit plat eventually IF he applies himself and actively tries to improve. there is no doubt
It will take him a while. Even with Neace backseat gaming him he didn't know his limits. He's too passive
@@divac7777 do you blame him? he's used to playing squishy adc and he doesnt snowball that much. this puts things into perspective, another 4-5 games like this he can start doing that automatically
He reached gold :D
anyone with a decent mental can reach diamond elo if they really put themselves into the game and try to actively improve
@@dancm5929 the sad part its not true, how is it then only 3,4% in EuW playerbase are in Dia4? The amount of players is huge and ranked is gettin grinded always, most ppl cant it lacks alot of knowledge usually
Maybe Plat4 but even that is for most too hard
Great video, however boots are always worth more on Kalista due to her dash range depending on the tier of the boots regardless of move speed.
this would be true if he were in a lane where the dash length actually mattered at all or if he was behind but neither of these things are true since he can dodge morde q with one dash without boots and going into an actual item with dmg lets you snowball much much harder
@@Stevennn- I meant in the end where he told him to swap out the boots for an item, late game dash length matters
And she can't cancel autos...
There’s soooo many people just farming my JGL. No pings, nothing. Just sheer farm. Even when They’re full build, and i’m not, they still just decide to take the farm, so i’m happy that you told your student, to ping.
you need to buy tier two boots before anything on kallista it increases her dash distance empowering her entirety
It actually doesn’t increase dash distance, but instead it increases dash speed. Her passive is worded wrong.
4 months later: He's now a gold 4 player with around a 51% WR in ~550 games mostly playing kalista top, but sometimes mid too
Pretty fucking good
Gold 2, 554 games with Kalista (54%WR with Kalista). What a chad
My fav off meta pick rn is zilean top, you beat most ranged and melee matchups and late you become such a utility beast
Honestly i think kalistas boots are pretty important, it might still be worth it to sell them for wits end but i dont know that her boots increase her jump distance which helps her whole kit overall just an observation!
Thank you! I was getting worried that no one mentioned this anywhere. Kalista lives and dies by her boots. Always rush them first and never sell them.
You cannot sell boots.
@@DrakZhullGlad im not the only one, she almost becomes a new champion with her boots idk how you could survive late game without them against a good team.
Wait omg I was the kasadin on the enemy team I was mid and yeah the mord was so mad that he ended up just giving up for a while and everyone on my team was flaming eachother, I was confused but the realized that damn that top was doing good this explains why
He is really good for a Bronze player, i must say
2 games ago i fought against a Janna Toplane with Smite ... well you can't really say fight because she never came top and had 24 farm at the end when i had over 200. The enemy Jungler Kayn tried to carry but he had no chance 4v5.
yeah it's a new meta, because with the new bounty system, even if your team is doing really good, you still get bounties on towers and objectives
This isn't really an off-meta pick, so many people play it now.
@@annpyingshek4693 i have never seen her in ranked before
@@FrodosBeutel That's a relatively new strategy
Same thing happened to me, played vs twitch on top as Fiora. He let me free farm and even though he ganked bot/mid nonstop he couldnt do much against a freefarmed fiora no matter how much he helped other lanes. I dont really like these kinds of playstyles its cringe af. I could understand using janna for that but twitch is just cringe
I know this is old but my favorite off-meta pick would be sunderer wukong top. You get a lot of people in my MMR (high bronze-low gold depending on who I'm queued with) that don't really understand how strong wukong's level 6 is. Once you get tiamat and sunderer you have really good wave control, you have strong utility even if you're behind. Even though he's played mostly in jungle, I feel like he often can't keep up with a lot of the powerfarming junglers that you run into, like Diana or Fiddlesticks, which ends up on it being harder to position properly and still keep up in farm. However, in top lane he's great at farming under tower and you have some great tools to use to outplay opponents in bad matchups or to make some sneaky escapes. He has decent ability to trade into most matchups, and really only struggles against hard-scaling tanks like Ornn and Cho'gath that can survive his all in even if they've been poked down. But even then, he's a pretty safe pick, you just won't be getting super fed but it's unlikely you get steamrolled even if you're getting outscaled eventually. At that point you still have good engage and utility in fights and excel at sticking on and bursting down enemy backline with potential to have 4 knock up hitboxes that do large amounts of damage alongside decent burst damage with your auto q auto and a long range dash in your E to stick on opponents. It's a fun, chill pick for sure.
Kalista mid was one of the champs I played when I first started playing the game. Not that I knew she was supposed to be an ADC lol.
I instantly new he was dutch because of his accent then I saw his name to 100000% confirm that he is dutch😄
AP Rakan mid with electrocute and everfrost! Early game you can bully with deceptive burst damage, and you become your jungler's best friend because you roam at any time since Rakan isn't CS needy
hey if you are watching this video dont forget kalista needs movespeed and attack speed the most so rushing boots is a great option
Looked at his porofessor and this dude is S2 already, a whole division up with just one tricking kalista. Hahah this video was so enjoyable
ur actually insane neace, really helped me understand the game better
My fave off-meta pick is Neeko supp! She functions like a more mobile Zyra, essentially.
Neeko support is underrated.
Yeah last season was the first one I tried pushing higher than silver, I got gold with Neeko supp.
And a month later Plat with Neeko Mid lmao
@@Vloggen
Needko Mid is also underrated.
Ahri sup also works, so long as you land your charm. Then mid-late game it's having a second dps mage, or if you go full sup get moonstone and chill with the team. But yes, Neeko sup is a ton of fun if you get an adc who isn't butt hurt about it.
i love the "WHO"S THAT POKEMON" silouhette of the champ in the thumbnail.
Does anyone know what software his student is using? at the top right of the screen nearer to the duration of the game?
Update about this guy:
He climbed to Gold 2 with Kalista top last year thanks to the coaching from Neace at a 53% win rate.
This year, he fell back down to silver, and the only change is that he started playing kalista mid again. He’s down to a 36% win rate.
It is no coincidence.
what does that imply tho o;
@@Livvvyenne999 It implies that neace was right in that Kalista mid is just not a good off-meta, and that he would've been better off going Kalista top this season over Kalista mid.
neace is incorrect about removing the boots for wits end on kalista fyi, kalista's hops become very small
gnar mid with press the attack and usual bruiser build, can go hexdrinker versus ap, the weakness is bad waveclear but it does good into assassins and still decent into mages with hexdrinker i think. pta helps so you're not reliant on mega, but still good in mega with teammates around to take advantage of pta. - thoughts on a off meta possibility from an iron player
I can feel mordes early game tilt. “Where did my health go?!?!”
My fav off meta pick is enchanter lulu mid, am I better off taking her top then?
I think I played with this person once he got autofilled jgl and still played Kalista.
Obligatory to mention that he carried through my borderline inting.
Ide love to hear what yall think but I think recently the most off-meta pick I've been playing is maokai Jung. You don't do that much damage but your gankes sre insane expecially with predetor. You will lose early and might get your first buff stolen but that's OK your goal is to early gank as quickly as possible and besides your not missing to much hold early that you can't make up with a gank. You will want to w them immediately because your w tracks flashes so it's guaranteed to get them rooted. You can't be bursted because of your passive healing so it's OK to play recklessly. And if you have 6 you will r first activate predetor then w and time your q with the w cc to knock them into the r root. And that is a total of 3 or 4 sec of cc. This strategy scales pretty well late as well because you will just be a fast Frontline that provides good engage and cc. The items I go are chemtank mobility boots and then just any other tanky speed item that can adapt well to the enemy team.
it's so strange to hear that kalista has no wave clear. cuz she can get the whole wave with few autos to set up and QE combo (at level5 you kill mages, at level 7-9 you kill whole wave except cannon).
ps: my favorite off-meta pick is Tank Diana:
grasp-shieldbash(crucial)-revitalize-shieldpower + manaflow-transcendence(crucial). cdr-armor-hp runes. RWQE skill proirity
ninja tabi-frostfire-fumblewinter-spiritvisage-sterrak-gargoyle. optional bramble vest for anti-heal. sell later cuz you'll be fighting with your team.
proc 3rd strike from passive + grasp + shieldbash from W (and later winter) +frostfire + QE (and even R).
this can even one-shot squishies like assassins or adc\support. and severely damage even tank. when you kill stuff you get your W back faster due to transcendence.
diana has awful ap ratios on her skills. while her base numbers are quite high. and she is very dangerous even without ap. and people will not know how to play against her cuz usual tank shredders don't work on her that well. you're tanking through re-application of shields :P
Ok ima try this. WISH ME LUCK!
I played AP Virus way before it became meta. I realised that his AP scaling on W and R was ridicoulous. I had someone who also showed me a build where you would play Varus bot or mid and rush Hextech Gunblade (when it existed) and after Nashors Tooth and Berserker's as core items. Then after you would go Zhonyas and then you could go many different items like Hurricane, Rabadons, Void Staff, Banshees etc...
Honestly I have been picking up Reksai mid recently and just used the same build she uses in toplane with electrocute and it works extremely well into melee champs; note I have played into one LB and one Xerath so not sure how it works into ranged.
You’re aiming for the earliest kills you can get, she is sort of like an assasin early, and then to transitions into an engage bruiser?
Build goes roughen like this;
Long sword and pots into dirk, prowlers and defensive boots, depending on your current gold, XP and gamestate, GA, ravenous hydra, Edge of night, black cleaver or good old bramble. The rest is up to you.
The thing about first bloods is so true...
I play warwick top, I used to play him jg, and so many people dont know what to do, I often get the first blood !
Really great headstart
I actually agree a lot with you taking him top, first good advice I've seen you give.
Irelia jungle is actually insane, first clear is hardest part due to invade potential but if you can get through that and get a tank you’re golden, she can also do a 5 camp clear pretty efficiently and healthy if you kite properly, not to mention even if you do get punished, you’re irelia cs a little and you’re back in the game, also you can easily solo drag and rift early quickly and if you’re fed early even solo baron very pog
since the filming of this video man's winrate on kalista went from 48% to 54%, i bet it'd be even higher if he didnt already have a couple dozen games! w2g!
I think it would be cool to have the full build listed like the runes so anyone can just try this pick for themselves easily.
I mean an easy way to find out the build is just skip to the end of the video and add a ga to your final build😂
something to consider is builds are situational
I love how you can instantly hear that he is from the Netherlands
Loooove This... And those executes with the E where awhesome.
Great coaching there, good student too. Cheers!
Wow Neace you're an amazing coach. One day i will get some legendary lessons soon. Subbed and Liked
why is he jumping around when he doesnt need to he atacks a bit slower when jumping so why take risk at loosing minions ? im bronze 4 very important so tehy know i dont know anything xd. 25:18 kalistas passive doestn allow you to cancel autos thats also the reasonb i myself dont play her botlane since they can just stand in teh minions and get free poke when i wanna last hit
Taric Jungle by LightRocket2 been climbing with that and getting fast honors for ganking. mistakes enemy makes is going in to trade kills with the ones i Gank because i can sheild and fast heal them with decent damage making easy trades.
Lillia top with Conquerer or Phase Rush and Liandry/Riftmaker! Start Corrupting pot then Grab Ionian or Swifties after an amp tome and regular boots. Happy kiting!
Part one
Okay, I know nothing and accept that. 9:50 in you had him buy noon over berserkers. I can think of a few reasons why you made that choice, but I’d like to know what reasons you had.
Part two
Am I dumb?
I personally, being as I know nothing and am in bronze, if faced with this matchup and using these runes would’ve went boots first for the extra lunge distance (to dodge pull) and the attack speed (greaves I think is like 15% faster or something? Can’t recall). Is that like sound logic or viable at all or just simply the wrong move?
One of my fav things about this channel is how much I learn about a game I don't even play, lol
What DO i need to do to get some help? Im currently silver 4 and trying My best but feels like i vant win some Times, i have been playing since s3 i think and took a break right arter jhin game and started about 2 years Ago for a second Time...
*_Goed gedaan man! Paprikaantje. Gekke cs broer_*
Anyone know what's the overlay he's using? The one that displays his Cs/min
Just a question. Why is it better to have Wit's End than boots on Kalista? Her passive jump scales off boot tier so her jumps would be extremely bad if she didn't even have tier 1 boots? Does the extra attack speed make up for the short jumps?
My question is why sell boots at the end when you jump further with boots (old player don’t know if that is changed flame me if I am wrong)
My favourite mid pick is garen midlane. Super easy, scales well, decent wave clear and easy to execute on high ping perfection.
Garen is the best remedy for Yasuo/Yone mid!
@@antonisgatsios And zed. I counterpick garen into him aswell :D
I swear I just saw the Chill Neace video where you played this and got confused for a second lol
As someone who has been dabbling with kalista top on and off for a couple months it feels good to hear neace say kalista could be a fit in top. And he is right top laners don't know how to deal with kalista and to not let her stack spears.
I personally love full lethality hail of blade reksai mid / top she has good enough sustain to last till lvl 3 then majority of the time they overstep and you can just e onto then and all in with ignite and insta kill them while knocked up and then rinse and repeat all lane, and while shoving you can have tunnels everywhere so you can roam constantly and with lethality and q you chunk towers like you're Nasus
yeah same i got inspired by happychimenoise's vid about reksai top
Idk if you can sell boots on Kalista, her dash range scaled with boot tier specifically, so you lose a lot of kiting and mobility potential if you sell them
Tahm kench ADC (or rather HPC) is my fav off meta pick. He needs a 2v2 lane for his e to be useful and needs gold to be anything more than an r bot. Full sustain runes with dshield, second wind, revitalize and cookies get you through lane and at 6 you can solokill their adc even down 1k gold easily.
Seeing this makes me wanting to play some Kalista top too!!!
i think in the end when he had to just auto shit without care i would use attack command (A) to move since Kalista will attack the nearest ennemi and still jump on the direction where you clicked
Can someone tell me how people get the overlay in the top right? it looks pretty helpful
Everytime you say, "You understand?", there needs to be a bubble with the text that flashes on the screen *real quick*.
what do you think about kindred mid? I main her and have now a 60% winrate on her
Hey Neace, new viewer here. at 10:00, you said to not take the plate due to tempo which is true- however couldn't you sacrifice 2 meelee minions for the plate instead? Not trying to critique because the tempo play is the correct one, but possibly could've been more gold efficient. I do realise this is hindesight but just an observation
i feel like a dagger, longsword, or boots would be waaay more valuable than whatever neace was talking about
like boots, for example, increase khalista's auto dash range and are really valuable
Neace just wanted to ask what do you think about cho'gath support it has good roams free drags great cc and good scaling
Enjoyed this a lot! :D
If you want play ADC Mid with ton of early-game dmg ,then just play Tristana... There's 0 reason to play Kalista ,when she scales like shit and half of her kit needs Support.
Rip kalista
i'm an Ahri main and i sometimes play her sup. Witch Everfrost u have a hole lot of cc and she is super good at getting Picks
there was a high elo ahri supp main. happychimenoises did a video on them. it's pretty interesting
dont you go serkers ASAP or, like second back after vamp scepter? boots are cracked on kalista, more autos, more kiting, and a LOT better jumping
Coaching session was already worth the money only with the advice to go top. Hopefully the guy understands going top is a much better option.
ok wheres the 300 dollars for me if I tell you to go top lol
doesn't kalista need boots for her passive to be more efficient?
what is that app he use to see the stats in the right conor?
Rek'Sai top is so strong, she absolutely dominates most people in top lane between levels 3-12, it's such a strong pick
I don't understand how he keeps attacking shit when he doesn't click on them? Someone explain please
Can I ask why you wouldn't wanna go overheal + shielbash and revitalize or something like that to make more use of the shields and heals?
If you think you can tell me go ahead guys^^ really looking forward to see what I'm missing there
My favorite off meta pick is Thresh top with Grasp! He had more range than most melees, has self peel, insane gank potential post 6. Scales crazy hard with ad because of his e passive, and also gets crazy tanky. Max E, then max W second if you need shield more, or max Q if you want to be a hook bot. Trading pattern is normally grasp auto and either flay away if you want to avoid long trades (vs Camille, etc) or flay in if you want to extend the trade. I go either shieldbow wits into tank, or Sunfire titanic into tank depending on if my team needs more ad or more tank. Super fun
The only thing I thing I would say about this lesson that I'm not entirely sure was the comments about boots on Kalista. You opted to go noonQuiver 1st but usually Kali takes boots2 for the efficient AS% and the increase in leap distance tied to her passive. Same thing about selling boots2 for Wits End, not entirely sure if its worth because the hop scaling. Otherwise great tutorial on how to push a lead
Alistar top is amazing, you get gold to build tanky. Trade well at level 3, and even if you get stomped you're still Alistar.
The problem is why would you pick him over any other tank there is in the game?
@@droknarnaramor8650 haha funny cowman
Cant milk those.
Last season i liked kaisa jungle going sheildbow into either wits nashors or colector nashors, though the clear prob not somthing most players can pull off well, bow nerf hurt bad tho as its required to jg kai
Are these the same runes neace used on his chill channel?
Hey neace legit question how do you feel ab ezreal mid? i don't like bot lane but ezreal has my fav personality and ability in the game do you think its doable or should I drop the idea?
he said mid is about push and roam, Ezreal has bad waveclear and doesnt add anything useful to the team as a mid laner