comback experience/ treats/ bounties and other things like that is such dumb solution to low elo kids having mental breakdowns and leaving games. i hate so much that i can farm almost entire jungle both mine and enemies and he spends 10 min sitting in side bush to set up gank and in best case hes 2-3 levels behind me in worse he is the same level. its just crazy how much handicap is given to bad players just so they keep playing the game
BRUH your over complicating it people wont take away anything useful when it takes you so many words. Why are league players so Dense its fucking simple. BASIC moba rules that I learned in DOTA. If you arent going to win the Pvp, you Pve and stall. The ONLY league players that seem to get this are Sabre and some top laners who actually understand WHY they would proxy. If you dont win in pvp and you have to find other objectives jesus christ. The first thing we learn in Dota and league players dont get it
Laners are always losers bro they get gapped but always need an excuse to sleep better that night. Don’t fall into the trap just mute all and let them have a hard time sleeping
Toplane Mundo that went 0/5 in 10 minutes: "GG, Jungle diff, my jungle doing nothing" The "nothing" I did as jungle: Solokilled the enemy jungle when they contested scuttle, got first Grubbs, first drake, got a double kill for my ADC, and got a kill on the enemy mid, plus 3 full clears of my jungle.
@@ragalyiakos meanwhile your toplane got ganked by enemy jungler 4 times, thus won his lane untill fed enemy top steamrolled the game from gank advantage 👍
Best advice for flaming team mates. Just ignore them, don't respond, don't defend yourself, don't point out their mistakes, just ignore anything in chat that's unproductive. Just ignore everything. They're low elo, they've probably been hardstuck at this rank for years, what makes you think listening to them is the right way to climb out of this rank?
@@SpinFastEA anyone who doesnt take games seriously (cant get past putting focus on emotions/mates over the game win) does not need to worry about why. just stay there, dont focus on how to improve, focus on how to make other people better. it may work for you, trying to make them better and happy will improve your league play. you are right, being toxic makes league easier
step 1: farm efficiently and makes plays along the route of your jg camps. dont panic and keep things simple. step 2: play around your spikes aggressively and fight around enemies that haven't based.
it does you no good. even if you dont speak to them they will continue to run it down in your game to drag you down with them. no amount of your effort matters. thats the real league experience. a single player can ruin your entire game. dont be fooled into thinking you can overcome that with just "being better". If they want you to lose then you will. point blank. its gaming terrorism.
@@Zephyrionea single player can ruin your game yeah, but on average there's someone on the other team throwing just as often and there isn't an inter in every game. Personal skill undeniably affects your win rate. You've got a terrible mind set, and Inter's are not keeping you hard stuck, it's all you.
One thing I have realized is, low elo players (including me) LOVE to take fights. Doesn't matter if it is a good or bad call theh have to fight 100% of the time
@@AlpnzAMV Unfortunately that's my aim, I show other side from obj, ping the obj, 5 man comes bot 30 mins in chases me around for about 30 seconds and my team is losing to minions or something because nothing is being done across the map. Then again I did once see someone lose lane at 35 mins vs an unassisted Yorick ult just pushing a lane.
Yeah I play with my mates and try to join team fights for good reason. I remember once I had a great game, was like 7/0/15 and then at the end my mates checked the total dmg dealt to champion, which was low. But I had a huge amount of gold ( I enjoy to split push, take towers) this game I even solo'd 2 drakes if I remember correctly. This "fight only when necessary" state of mind is not a low elo thing. I indeed get flamed much for farming
I thought the title said this was gonna be about carrying using proper flaming techniques. Sad. EDIT: Nooo. They changed the title. FYI it originally said "How a CHALLENGER carries FLAMING TEAMMATES" or something similar. When read a certain way, it implied that the challenger was carrying by flaming his team. 🤓☝
@@lucianolteanu9829 Point taken, but even just just a slight pause or change in intonation was what i was going for. The original title was capitalized a bit weirdly iirc, which made it flow like: How a CHALLENGER carries ..pause.. FLAMING TEAMMATES
This is actually so helpful and it makes a huge difference. I recently started playing like this and went from being lost, performing poorly in all my emerald games to stomping diamonds more consistently. Thanks
The best decision I've ever made in this game is to insta mute someone when they say "jg diff" or anything like that. The mentality that flaming a fellow teammate will help win your game is something I'm done with.
My advice for low elo sufferers while being a low elo sufferer: /mute all, /deafen, crank whatever music you love and play the game. Works in valorant too.
I learned this in games where i played vs Shacos. In soloq nobady knows how to play vs stealth so Shaco players end up ganking lot and there is never chance to outgank Shaco. So just invade his jungle take as much farm from him during his ganking and they just fall behind so much with levels that their ganks And ability to contest obj become too weak overtime. Ofc low elo players care only about kda instead of actual gold and exp dif so flame is always present
@rsgxyt oh it's just fiesta aram gameplay. I came back after not playing 8 months and just iron/bronze lobbies again. It's literally just see enemy run at enemy. Ignore obj, towers etc. just run into enemy jungle and fight.
I would like to admit the insane amount of work made by this video's editor. Holy he must have been spent a week to add all those visual effects to help the video be more understandable and clear as possible, this guy needs a raise. That video gave me better understanding of psychology and mindset of a good jungle player's game plan, thanks!
Never underestimate stupidity. It’s the hardest part about emerald. I know I should be in the side lane pushing, but I also know for a fact my team will take whatever fight shows up.
Your first advice was obvious but I didn’t really consider how impactful it was until I heard it. It also makes tracking jungler not only easier but more important. Thank you for the advice you!
yea but u probably arent helping at all while nunus ganked every lane 6 times. and then say "i only gank winning lanes". if ur jg and u have 3 losing lanes u are partly responsible (most likely).
@@ixine-yj3gj that's incorrect. As a laner, its also your job to know that a nunu can gank level 2 and deep ward at the beginning or play around a specific wave management to counter that. If your jungler is not a good early ganker how is it possible to be his fault ? You really have a bad mindset hope youll improve im not blaming bro, good luck in your climb !
@@ixine-yj3gj This mindset is exactly what the video says not to do. If you as the jg go try to help the lane that's been ganked and is super far behind you're going to throw away your farm lead trying to help them. Best case scenario is your gank works, but now they're still going to lose the 1v1 against their laner and you're now weaker than enemy jungler. Jungler is suppose to capitalize on enemy mistakes not make up for teams mistakes.
@@NicoMound so u r losing because jg camps u. yea u should ward but if u play top it doesnt matter if u have vision as u cant walk up to farm if u knw hes there. so u lose lane directly because of their jg. u ask for help because u cant farm as their jg is making top a 2v1 and they say "i only gank winning lanes". the jg diff is the reason ur not winning. and theres nothing mentioned about not having a strong early jg. it doesnt even have to be a nunu if u get camped and lose lane an ur jg refuses to help he got jg diffed because he impacted the game less than the enemy jg. if u lose 3 lanes and decide to never gank because theyre all losing while enemy is still ganking ur just letting ur laners down. yea u should be watching for enemy jg but that doesnt mean enemy jg cant camp or have more impact in a lane than ur jg.
@@dudedavid34 nothing said about being super far behind. losing can be down 15 cs. if its a free kill and will get ur laner back in the game . not helping them because theyre losing (only losing after jg ganks more than once) is getting jg diffed. and what happens if their jg ganks 3 lanes before u and theyre now all losing because of it? youre saying oh they are losing guess game is just over jg diff? like what? if theres an opportunity for a kill for jg most likely a bounty aswell how will this put him behind. im not saying try dive the fed enemy under his tower and throw but if theyre sitting under ur tower free to be ganked but u dont gank them only because theyre losing ur bad. its simple. i never said the laner wasnt making a mistake. 99% of the time ur asking them to come is because theres an opportunity to capitalize on their mistakes. my point was, saying "i only gank winning lanes" is wrong u gank when theres a good opportunity and if ur laners behind it can be even better because they might be able to win the 1v1 after just one gank and it can save their lane completely. neglecting them and letting them get dived on repeat is never good u r letting enemy get ahead at the expense of ur laner.
Skill Capped, I fully agree with you, and your videos really help my game, but there is one thing. I agree that jungles almost never fall behind. And all of your tips about being efficient is helping us get stronger. But what is the tip you give to a player that consistently is very gold efficient but the winrate doesn't reflect a good playstyle? What is the dofference between being strong and being good, to actually win the game while fed? I'm a bit lost because my struggle and aim before was to be consistent and strong. I'm pretty happy with how consistent and strong I become each game, but they are still 50/50.
The funny thing is that the moment in game where people flame, die and lose their mind is the same moment where you have the 15+ sec death timer. The game baits you into doing the dumbest shit possible at the worst moment possible.
6:00 I’m glad someone else said what I’ve been thinking about. I recall the correct saying being “don’t gank your losing lanes” But I believe many people have sort of spun that into “don’t help you losing lanes” which is way different
1:37 This is something so many guides leave out. Thank you! They just pretend just because a high elo player can easily do something following a couple principles that's gonna be enough for a low elo player.
There are two cases: you are in strong team who can perform kills and carry the game - then you prioritize ganks over farming and safe play. Otherwise - you do as was said in the guide. This works for me and a lot other skilled players who I watch. You cannot carry on your own when you play on about your elo level. It means you need to constantly looking for strong mates and cooperate. If you are not challenger - you can not win solo by just outfarming and being strong, your team will ruin it down faster 100%.
People have no perception of time. Especially travel time. And how long a fight takes. But people can only change over months and years so never explain it to anyone just find mute, do everything you can to win, and next game.
but that also happens to jungler, when a laner is getting ganked and needs help, as he can flee in your jungle, but you want to finish the wolf real quick before helping, he is dead
I have a weird organisation habit where I always put my completed items in the farmost slot of the inventory. I am happy to say, adter seeing you do it too, I no longer feel silly for it
i get this allot in my games, i play around my camps and dont run for obj leaving up my camps as i remember a video on talking about the gold/exp from the camps and the risk of getting nothing from ganks/sketchy obj plays for drag and such , im glad more and more are telling us to farm becasue laners dont understand this is our creepwaves and we need items to stay in the game :)
07:30 i feel like its cause of A LOT of my deaths. I want to try to help teammates even though there are small chances, cause I feel like they gonna flame me otherwise
Laners just do 3 things. 1) minions/towers 2) skirmish 3)recall timers\ Jungle can spend a infinite amount of time farming camps including enemy jungle if everything is up. Which leaves almost no time to gank. Plus need to get scuttles and River objectives.
What drives me nuts as a Top Laner is sometimes a small edge carries the lane the entire time. A quick pop in by a jungle can change that dynamic into a winning lane the entire game. Even if a kill doesn't occur. But jungles want to act like oh he can't win, so I'm not going to help equalize it.
7:05 small adjustment - players will flame jungler for their mistakes. You won't make your 2nd buff to get level 3 when your top hits 0/2 and literally abuse you, flame you and then quit the game or just run down lanes.
@@chez-bubulleim exactly in the same situation with a suive account ans another in plat. Doing fine in plat. Play 2-3 games in silver and im not able to win
0:15 Nilah plays well into basically the whole enemy comp and she has her worst support synergy so she's going to tilt if you weakside her as you're playing for a camille that can't do anything vs enemy team.
playing around my own spikes... meanwhile in the enemy team there is a sett, garen or voli that gives a sht about my spikes and just delete me with 2 less items :)
One of the worst things to happen is when you are pathing towards a lane, about to finish your clear, and your lane that you were about to gank played aggressive and died, then blames you for not being there. Just one of many scenarios junglers get wrongly blamed for. (And meanwhile, enemy jungle may have a successful gank on the other side of the map and snowball kills from there, and have it called a jungle gap.)
Flip side of that is (I think he said it in this video) you have a huge wave pushed into you and jungler goes for rift (for example) then spam pings you and flames you for not missing 3 waves worth of minions. Just today I had one jungler's mental break because while he wanted to do dragon me (support) and the adc were shoved under tower with there adc support and jungle trying to pressure us out of lane for free drake and we didn't come help him.
I have this prespective that just woke some people: Jungler is the rol were you are the one designed to take care of the gold from the jungle, either from monsters of objectives, and if you are there and the lane needs a hand, you can doit, just like the roaming support does. Usually people thinks that jungler is the babysitter rol, were you just are there to help your teammates or disrupt the enemy, but thats not true, you are like every other lane, you need to clear your minions, but your "lane" is closer to everyone elses lane, farming first and then if is posible without sacrificeing yourself, then help the one most closer to you at that moment or take the advantage from the enemys mistake, thats why people says that a jungler usually should gank at their dead time if posible.
I just started playing wild rift about 2 weeks ago (I'd play actual league but I'm horrible at PC games. ) It helps me feel better hearing that leveling up at the same time as everyone else is just as important as getting kills. I feel like I can help heal and get assists (in support) like crazy but I can never secure a kill on my own.
Ultimately league is a complex game and Solo Q is a different game than competitive 5s. You could be a macro god and identify the “right” play in pro given a specific game state and draft wincon, but relying on your teammates to identify the same long term play and also play micro correctly is very inconsistent. Personally - I’m always conflicted when it comes to selfish low ELO jungling. I’m fundamentally believe that it is often bad macro in a more coordinated game to farm aggressively and not proactively fix wave states or dive weak sided scaling lanes. However - it dramatically reduces your own agency in the game and often doesn’t lead to the positive outcomes you would expect - even if initially executed well. It also lends itself to a champion pool that I find pretty degenerate, but I suppose that’s a different discussion. I think everything in this video is great advice to climb, but is also something worth putting a caveat on if you’re struggling in ranked 5s or collegiate.
Okay, you say that advice of playing around strong teammates is too much, but when I try to make plays with the weak teammates they leave me to die because two minions were more valuable to them than helping me & the midlaner fighting the bot & jungle.
funny I've been climbing more efficiently recently and I've just been playing calm and sticking to fundamentals. Haven't been consciously applying the tips in this video, but after watching it, I'm noticing what I've been doing in my games differently is what you mention in this video. Ty for the content.
6:30 cross mapping is not essential for the game? So when every drake is up and u cant contest it u should just sit and farm ur jungle instead of invading or doing top side objective?
He didn’t say cross mapping is “not essential”. His point is that players often put too much focus on taking common advice such as “you need to make XYZ play(s) when such and such happens” instead of just farming and staying relevant.
Issue is "Emerad players" know how to lose a game, they have mastered this craft. If they want you to lose, there is nothing you can do to win this game. Your main role as jgler isn't to play great, it's to raise your team's morale through decisive interventions.
Idk, when ever I play jg I feel like I'm always behind no matter what I do. I've had games where I'm more than double the enemy jglers kills AND cs and I'm still only matching their level. The math doesn't math for me
Jungle isn't broken but it can seem that way when you're either smurfing against low elo players or having gank setups, freezes, and objective rotations in high elo.
Nah, I recently fell into Emerald. Playing in the jungle is 10x more enjoyable than any other role. Yeah, you depend heavily on solo lanes for river fighting for grubs, but it doesn't compare to suffering on ADC.
I avoid Jungle. You're the first to get blamed, flamed, and often reported if you don't do what someone in the game wants you to do. I've actually gotten warnings for not taking bad plays and losing fights I would have been out numbered in. So, I don't know. I feel like there are some things related to Jungle, and the reporting system that need to be fixed before I ever choose that role again.
I disagree, in one game i was level 2 and enemy jgler was level 7 because he kept stealing my camps and roaming my jungle to kill me continuously, this lasted for a good 15 mins before he eventually got caught out and i was able to do my timers without him knowing when they were up
I hate catchup XP in the jungle. It makes the role not fun. Stealing a whole side of the enemy jg's camps ends up rewarding them because they have a long time to wait for ganks that your laners won't respect and then have higher level camps with catchup XP next time.
a while ago I was playing with some friends as kha jg and I got my blue and gromp stolen. pretty pissed but I was just like "welp, guess im ganking early". we did win that game because I made it my mission to punish the enemy top and mid for their jungler taking my camps which made them tilt and flame their own jg. kind of the just had the mentality of "if I'm having a bad game, you're gonna have bad games too"
The reason people flame the jungler every game is that it's a literal mental condition. Their brains are as smooth and dense as a polished stone, and their egos are larger than a fed Chogath. Therefore, losing their lane can't possibly be their fault, and the jungler is the role that could've potentially held their hand and lost the game with them, so they flame them if they do and they flame them if they don't. It's not rocket science, and noone needs a course in human stupidity.
I think when pros spam their scoreboard it's because they didn't get the information they wanted. I do that too in various games. I can spam a stats screen but I know I have to do something on field or click something and the screen is in the way so it goes down, but it also comes back up almost immediately. Because I only needed one click or to check my field for a second. This looks like I am checking the whole stats screen multiple times but I'm not. I can't get that info in just .1 second. 17:15 SURELY. A cursed word I have told myself a 1000 times.
I would love to hear this kind of simple advice for lanes as well, as a midlaner I am always caught up in those jgl videos and then I don't know how to apply it properly ;-;
@@JesseTheGameDev like it always felt weird. Lots of the time I would have oppertunities on the other side of the map, and it felt like playing around a specific lane would take away from what I could be doing elsewhere
"you will be strong no matter what" is not good advice for someone with no mechanics to carry their lobby, sometimes you gotta stop farming and get your sion ahead so he can split push or get 2 shutdowns for your bot lane.
I'm not a good jungler at all, but quite frankly I love it when my laners run it down a little bit - purely because I get so much more shutdown gold and can put myself in the driving seat moreso than letting myself get carried.
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comback experience/ treats/ bounties and other things like that is such dumb solution to low elo kids having mental breakdowns and leaving games. i hate so much that i can farm almost entire jungle both mine and enemies and he spends 10 min sitting in side bush to set up gank and in best case hes 2-3 levels behind me in worse he is the same level. its just crazy how much handicap is given to bad players just so they keep playing the game
BRUH your over complicating it people wont take away anything useful when it takes you so many words. Why are league players so Dense its fucking simple. BASIC moba rules that I learned in DOTA. If you arent going to win the Pvp, you Pve and stall. The ONLY league players that seem to get this are Sabre and some top laners who actually understand WHY they would proxy. If you dont win in pvp and you have to find other objectives jesus christ. The first thing we learn in Dota and league players dont get it
jg get blame litrly every game. From ganking all lanes to farming to counter jg to getting flamed for not ganking
/mute all
Yesterday I played a udyr game went 16/3/15 and pretty much won the game solo and still got blamed by my top laner.
Laners are always losers bro they get gapped but always need an excuse to sleep better that night. Don’t fall into the trap just mute all and let them have a hard time sleeping
Toplane Mundo that went 0/5 in 10 minutes: "GG, Jungle diff, my jungle doing nothing"
The "nothing" I did as jungle: Solokilled the enemy jungle when they contested scuttle, got first Grubbs, first drake, got a double kill for my ADC, and got a kill on the enemy mid, plus 3 full clears of my jungle.
@@ragalyiakos meanwhile your toplane got ganked by enemy jungler 4 times, thus won his lane untill fed enemy top steamrolled the game from gank advantage 👍
Best advice for flaming team mates. Just ignore them, don't respond, don't defend yourself, don't point out their mistakes, just ignore anything in chat that's unproductive. Just ignore everything. They're low elo, they've probably been hardstuck at this rank for years, what makes you think listening to them is the right way to climb out of this rank?
No you must fight fire with fire and make them feel as terrible as humanly possible for ruining other people's fun league experience
@@SpinFastEA /mute all
@@SpinFastEA That’s what they want and this is why you stay low elo. Nobody cares what you say to them
@Flame1500 oh please forgive me i didnt know i was speaking with an all knowing prescient league god. Please tell me more about why im low elo
@@SpinFastEA anyone who doesnt take games seriously (cant get past putting focus on emotions/mates over the game win) does not need to worry about why. just stay there, dont focus on how to improve, focus on how to make other people better. it may work for you, trying to make them better and happy will improve your league play. you are right, being toxic makes league easier
step 1: farm efficiently and makes plays along the route of your jg camps. dont panic and keep things simple.
step 2: play around your spikes aggressively and fight around enemies that haven't based.
As a jungler main, this is what I needed to see.
The reality of jg
good. stop ruining my games low elo scrub.
it does you no good. even if you dont speak to them they will continue to run it down in your game to drag you down with them. no amount of your effort matters. thats the real league experience. a single player can ruin your entire game. dont be fooled into thinking you can overcome that with just "being better". If they want you to lose then you will. point blank. its gaming terrorism.
@@Zephyrione This is true to some extent, but not every game will have that kind of player too.
@@Zephyrionea single player can ruin your game yeah, but on average there's someone on the other team throwing just as often and there isn't an inter in every game. Personal skill undeniably affects your win rate.
You've got a terrible mind set, and Inter's are not keeping you hard stuck, it's all you.
One thing I have realized is, low elo players (including me) LOVE to take fights. Doesn't matter if it is a good or bad call theh have to fight 100% of the time
Yes, for example someone shows on botlane at mid-late game and immediately 5 players starts walking to them lol.
@@AlpnzAMV Unfortunately that's my aim, I show other side from obj, ping the obj, 5 man comes bot 30 mins in chases me around for about 30 seconds and my team is losing to minions or something because nothing is being done across the map. Then again I did once see someone lose lane at 35 mins vs an unassisted Yorick ult just pushing a lane.
Worst part is I most of the time know it's a bad fight, but get dragged into it anyways. Maybe just ignoring what others think is a way to go.
@@mareknovotny5441 yes
Yeah I play with my mates and try to join team fights for good reason. I remember once I had a great game, was like 7/0/15 and then at the end my mates checked the total dmg dealt to champion, which was low. But I had a huge amount of gold ( I enjoy to split push, take towers) this game I even solo'd 2 drakes if I remember correctly. This "fight only when necessary" state of mind is not a low elo thing. I indeed get flamed much for farming
Teammates bait better than any enemy ever will
1. Play around your camps
2. Play around your power spikes (which includes levels and items)
I thought the title said this was gonna be about carrying using proper flaming techniques. Sad.
EDIT: Nooo. They changed the title. FYI it originally said "How a CHALLENGER carries FLAMING TEAMMATES" or something similar.
When read a certain way, it implied that the challenger was carrying by flaming his team. 🤓☝
It works tho...
It didn’t say “How a challenger carried BY flaming teammates “so it s still has only 1 meaning
@@lucianolteanu9829 not really lol study the dictionary book like it's your bible bud
@@lucianolteanu9829 Point taken, but even just just a slight pause or change in intonation was what i was going for. The original title was capitalized a bit weirdly iirc, which made it flow like:
How a CHALLENGER carries ..pause.. FLAMING TEAMMATES
Reading it in any manner would not imply what you’re saying whatsoever lol.
Biggest tip for jungle, go to settings interface, scroll down to chat. And put it on Party only. So you dont see anyone flaming :)
Surely they used an ult or sums to kill my team!
Oh you sweet summer child.
Based , that was such a naive and ignorant take eheh
Specially on low elo,people will die to enemies without them needing a single ult LMAO
This is actually so helpful and it makes a huge difference. I recently started playing like this and went from being lost, performing poorly in all my emerald games to stomping diamonds more consistently. Thanks
The best decision I've ever made in this game is to insta mute someone when they say "jg diff" or anything like that. The mentality that flaming a fellow teammate will help win your game is something I'm done with.
My advice for low elo sufferers while being a low elo sufferer: /mute all, /deafen, crank whatever music you love and play the game. Works in valorant too.
I learned this in games where i played vs Shacos. In soloq nobady knows how to play vs stealth so Shaco players end up ganking lot and there is never chance to outgank Shaco. So just invade his jungle take as much farm from him during his ganking and they just fall behind so much with levels that their ganks And ability to contest obj become too weak overtime.
Ofc low elo players care only about kda instead of actual gold and exp dif so flame is always present
the amount of times I as a support get flamed for no kills when I have more than 50% kp as assists is too many times.
@@premieress2623 that's wild, which region and elo?
@@rsgxyt NA ofc. Silver to emerald usually
@@premieress2623 what even happens in iron and bronze then 😭😭
@rsgxyt oh it's just fiesta aram gameplay. I came back after not playing 8 months and just iron/bronze lobbies again. It's literally just see enemy run at enemy. Ignore obj, towers etc. just run into enemy jungle and fight.
Let me mid diamond main
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Windface 😭😂😂
When in doubt mute laners and focus on camp respawns.
I would like to admit the insane amount of work made by this video's editor. Holy he must have been spent a week to add all those visual effects to help the video be more understandable and clear as possible, this guy needs a raise. That video gave me better understanding of psychology and mindset of a good jungle player's game plan, thanks!
Never underestimate stupidity. It’s the hardest part about emerald. I know I should be in the side lane pushing, but I also know for a fact my team will take whatever fight shows up.
Your first advice was obvious but I didn’t really consider how impactful it was until I heard it. It also makes tracking jungler not only easier but more important. Thank you for the advice you!
the best is 3 losing lanes at 10 minutes and every lane is flaming you. fun stuff
yea but u probably arent helping at all while nunus ganked every lane 6 times. and then say "i only gank winning lanes". if ur jg and u have 3 losing lanes u are partly responsible (most likely).
@@ixine-yj3gj that's incorrect. As a laner, its also your job to know that a nunu can gank level 2 and deep ward at the beginning or play around a specific wave management to counter that.
If your jungler is not a good early ganker how is it possible to be his fault ? You really have a bad mindset hope youll improve im not blaming bro, good luck in your climb !
@@ixine-yj3gj This mindset is exactly what the video says not to do. If you as the jg go try to help the lane that's been ganked and is super far behind you're going to throw away your farm lead trying to help them. Best case scenario is your gank works, but now they're still going to lose the 1v1 against their laner and you're now weaker than enemy jungler. Jungler is suppose to capitalize on enemy mistakes not make up for teams mistakes.
@@NicoMound so u r losing because jg camps u. yea u should ward but if u play top it doesnt matter if u have vision as u cant walk up to farm if u knw hes there. so u lose lane directly because of their jg. u ask for help because u cant farm as their jg is making top a 2v1 and they say "i only gank winning lanes". the jg diff is the reason ur not winning. and theres nothing mentioned about not having a strong early jg. it doesnt even have to be a nunu if u get camped and lose lane an ur jg refuses to help he got jg diffed because he impacted the game less than the enemy jg. if u lose 3 lanes and decide to never gank because theyre all losing while enemy is still ganking ur just letting ur laners down. yea u should be watching for enemy jg but that doesnt mean enemy jg cant camp or have more impact in a lane than ur jg.
@@dudedavid34 nothing said about being super far behind. losing can be down 15 cs. if its a free kill and will get ur laner back in the game . not helping them because theyre losing (only losing after jg ganks more than once) is getting jg diffed. and what happens if their jg ganks 3 lanes before u and theyre now all losing because of it? youre saying oh they are losing guess game is just over jg diff? like what? if theres an opportunity for a kill for jg most likely a bounty aswell how will this put him behind. im not saying try dive the fed enemy under his tower and throw but if theyre sitting under ur tower free to be ganked but u dont gank them only because theyre losing ur bad. its simple. i never said the laner wasnt making a mistake. 99% of the time ur asking them to come is because theres an opportunity to capitalize on their mistakes. my point was, saying "i only gank winning lanes" is wrong u gank when theres a good opportunity and if ur laners behind it can be even better because they might be able to win the 1v1 after just one gank and it can save their lane completely. neglecting them and letting them get dived on repeat is never good u r letting enemy get ahead at the expense of ur laner.
Skill Capped, I fully agree with you, and your videos really help my game, but there is one thing.
I agree that jungles almost never fall behind. And all of your tips about being efficient is helping us get stronger.
But what is the tip you give to a player that consistently is very gold efficient but the winrate doesn't reflect a good playstyle? What is the dofference between being strong and being good, to actually win the game while fed?
I'm a bit lost because my struggle and aim before was to be consistent and strong. I'm pretty happy with how consistent and strong I become each game, but they are still 50/50.
The funny thing is that the moment in game where people flame, die and lose their mind is the same moment where you have the 15+ sec death timer.
The game baits you into doing the dumbest shit possible at the worst moment possible.
6:00 I’m glad someone else said what I’ve been thinking about. I recall the correct saying being “don’t gank your losing lanes”
But I believe many people have sort of spun that into “don’t help you losing lanes” which is way different
how's it way different?
1:37 This is something so many guides leave out. Thank you! They just pretend just because a high elo player can easily do something following a couple principles that's gonna be enough for a low elo player.
“You can also carry like me and I will show you in just a second how, but first you should buy my book.”
5:30 OK BUT WHAT IS THE SIVIR DOING?!?!?!
There are two cases: you are in strong team who can perform kills and carry the game - then you prioritize ganks over farming and safe play. Otherwise - you do as was said in the guide. This works for me and a lot other skilled players who I watch. You cannot carry on your own when you play on about your elo level. It means you need to constantly looking for strong mates and cooperate. If you are not challenger - you can not win solo by just outfarming and being strong, your team will ruin it down faster 100%.
People have no perception of time.
Especially travel time.
And how long a fight takes.
But people can only change over months and years so never explain it to anyone just find mute, do everything you can to win, and next game.
laners have it all gold walks to you, you have a tower to protect you. and you can rotate to help with objs.
@@yoyoyo-r3m talking like jungler have it worse, think about wave managment and match ups.
but that also happens to jungler, when a laner is getting ganked and needs help, as he can flee in your jungle, but you want to finish the wolf real quick before helping, he is dead
Thats why i just disable all chat. If they want something -> ping, if they spam ping -> mute. Makes it all much more chill while they punch air
You mean to tell me i have a faster clear than a challenger on Kayn? Wooooo
I have a weird organisation habit where I always put my completed items in the farmost slot of the inventory. I am happy to say, adter seeing you do it too, I no longer feel silly for it
This is unironically the best jungle advice I've ever seen
i get this allot in my games, i play around my camps and dont run for obj leaving up my camps as i remember a video on talking about the gold/exp from the camps and the risk of getting nothing from ganks/sketchy obj plays for drag and such , im glad more and more are telling us to farm becasue laners dont understand this is our creepwaves and we need items to stay in the game :)
07:30 i feel like its cause of A LOT of my deaths. I want to try to help teammates even though there are small chances, cause I feel like they gonna flame me otherwise
Laners just do 3 things. 1) minions/towers 2) skirmish 3)recall timers\
Jungle can spend a infinite amount of time farming camps including enemy jungle if everything is up.
Which leaves almost no time to gank. Plus need to get scuttles and River objectives.
What drives me nuts as a Top Laner is sometimes a small edge carries the lane the entire time. A quick pop in by a jungle can change that dynamic into a winning lane the entire game. Even if a kill doesn't occur.
But jungles want to act like oh he can't win, so I'm not going to help equalize it.
i feel this is such a solo-carry mentality and playstyle ought to be different for something like a seju with the aim of having her lanes pop-off
As a jg player this is actually so true. If they become insufferable just mute and keep focusing on your game
him: it's actually really simple
also him: YOU JUST HAVE TO KNOW HOW TO JUNGLE, BUY MY FRIENDS BOOK
7:05 small adjustment - players will flame jungler for their mistakes. You won't make your 2nd buff to get level 3 when your top hits 0/2 and literally abuse you, flame you and then quit the game or just run down lanes.
Honest question; at 18:00 why did you buy a hexdrinker?
3:28 Can someone explain why this is?
Jungle item
Yeah I got stuck in emerald 4 multiple times for a long time even though I peaked masters...
Idk about that lol
It's not you, it's me
@@Photik I had an account in D1, doing fine, and at the same time another account in E4, struggling. xD
@@chez-bubulle carry me senpai
@@chez-bubulleim exactly in the same situation with a suive account ans another in plat. Doing fine in plat. Play 2-3 games in silver and im not able to win
0:15 Nilah plays well into basically the whole enemy comp and she has her worst support synergy so she's going to tilt if you weakside her as you're playing for a camille that can't do anything vs enemy team.
Silver player commented
@@destorer Rank 8 nilah na…
@@aurah8245which supp is good with nilah?
playing around my own spikes... meanwhile in the enemy team there is a sett, garen or voli that gives a sht about my spikes and just delete me with 2 less items :)
Pick better champs?
the pain of playing assassins
WHAT IS THAT GRAVES BUILD AT 1:45 I LOVE IT
This is also good life advice. Be patient, keep farming, and prioritize yourself, and you'll be rewarded
One of the worst things to happen is when you are pathing towards a lane, about to finish your clear, and your lane that you were about to gank played aggressive and died, then blames you for not being there. Just one of many scenarios junglers get wrongly blamed for.
(And meanwhile, enemy jungle may have a successful gank on the other side of the map and snowball kills from there, and have it called a jungle gap.)
Flip side of that is (I think he said it in this video) you have a huge wave pushed into you and jungler goes for rift (for example) then spam pings you and flames you for not missing 3 waves worth of minions. Just today I had one jungler's mental break because while he wanted to do dragon me (support) and the adc were shoved under tower with there adc support and jungle trying to pressure us out of lane for free drake and we didn't come help him.
i just got to emerald after being stuck in plat for 3 months and i feel like my teammates is actually a little bit better
no, they are still the worst i can't solo q i have to dou q all to get good teammates
16:22 Tahm didn't r Diana x) .
In my game he would've ulted me looong time ago
but how to turn a game if every lane is inting?
I have this prespective that just woke some people:
Jungler is the rol were you are the one designed to take care of the gold from the jungle, either from monsters of objectives, and if you are there and the lane needs a hand, you can doit, just like the roaming support does.
Usually people thinks that jungler is the babysitter rol, were you just are there to help your teammates or disrupt the enemy, but thats not true, you are like every other lane, you need to clear your minions, but your "lane" is closer to everyone elses lane, farming first and then if is posible without sacrificeing yourself, then help the one most closer to you at that moment or take the advantage from the enemys mistake, thats why people says that a jungler usually should gank at their dead time if posible.
I just started playing wild rift about 2 weeks ago (I'd play actual league but I'm horrible at PC games. )
It helps me feel better hearing that leveling up at the same time as everyone else is just as important as getting kills. I feel like I can help heal and get assists (in support) like crazy but I can never secure a kill on my own.
this is such a great video. Makes me feel a lot less pressure (my main struggle with the jungle role) so thanks for making it
I knew junglers were idiots and the role is broken, this video proves it
Then jungle if the role is so broken
I agree. This is video for 5 yrs kids whos brain havent developed yet. Same as the creator of it lmao
when u play jungle youre asking to get flamed
in some servers its harder to play in emerald compared to challanger.
No
@@Goldeneye3336 in challanger u can get carried but in emerald u need to put your ass to carry the hell out of games.
@@keremdeveci3984 no. You can get carried in all elo. Being carriable is very good skill. Not a lot of players accept to be carried no matter elo
Guys, you were the inspiration for me to start my youtube channel and I just did it today! Thank you!
Ultimately league is a complex game and Solo Q is a different game than competitive 5s.
You could be a macro god and identify the “right” play in pro given a specific game state and draft wincon, but relying on your teammates to identify the same long term play and also play micro correctly is very inconsistent.
Personally - I’m always conflicted when it comes to selfish low ELO jungling. I’m fundamentally believe that it is often bad macro in a more coordinated game to farm aggressively and not proactively fix wave states or dive weak sided scaling lanes. However - it dramatically reduces your own agency in the game and often doesn’t lead to the positive outcomes you would expect - even if initially executed well.
It also lends itself to a champion pool that I find pretty degenerate, but I suppose that’s a different discussion.
I think everything in this video is great advice to climb, but is also something worth putting a caveat on if you’re struggling in ranked 5s or collegiate.
Okay, you say that advice of playing around strong teammates is too much, but when I try to make plays with the weak teammates they leave me to die because two minions were more valuable to them than helping me & the midlaner fighting the bot & jungle.
how do i stop teammates from griefing my jungle and take away my gold and xp
also why are there two full ad games in emerald also shown as an example
Gota ask full ad team why did you go abyssal mask on red kayn?
funny I've been climbing more efficiently recently and I've just been playing calm and sticking to fundamentals.
Haven't been consciously applying the tips in this video, but after watching it, I'm noticing what I've been doing in my games differently is what you mention in this video.
Ty for the content.
thx bro for all ur smart advices, loving it !!!!!!! Good work and good logic !!!
Chat premade only works well in low elo can it be working in high elo?
step 1: follow this video
step 2: get invaded
step 3: you lost the game
IS THAT AN ABYSSAL MASK ON RED KAYN???
Everything is fun until you have 2 afk and 1 person running down toplane cuz he lost
Note to be taken from game : "Dying is the same as recalling" *baus intensifies*
6:30 cross mapping is not essential for the game? So when every drake is up and u cant contest it u should just sit and farm ur jungle instead of invading or doing top side objective?
You’re missing the point lol
@@waseemsaidoun6570 how?
He didn’t say cross mapping is “not essential”. His point is that players often put too much focus on taking common advice such as “you need to make XYZ play(s) when such and such happens” instead of just farming and staying relevant.
Funny part is if you just stack your conqueror on the Nasus before ulting him you kill.
Issue is "Emerad players" know how to lose a game, they have mastered this craft. If they want you to lose, there is nothing you can do to win this game.
Your main role as jgler isn't to play great, it's to raise your team's morale through decisive interventions.
Idk, when ever I play jg I feel like I'm always behind no matter what I do. I've had games where I'm more than double the enemy jglers kills AND cs and I'm still only matching their level. The math doesn't math for me
So the thing about emerald elo is that everyone gives up and they ff 15 4v1 and that’s all. And it happens most of the time.
Jungle isn't broken but it can seem that way when you're either smurfing against low elo players or having gank setups, freezes, and objective rotations in high elo.
Nah, I recently fell into Emerald. Playing in the jungle is 10x more enjoyable than any other role. Yeah, you depend heavily on solo lanes for river fighting for grubs, but it doesn't compare to suffering on ADC.
I avoid Jungle. You're the first to get blamed, flamed, and often reported if you don't do what someone in the game wants you to do. I've actually gotten warnings for not taking bad plays and losing fights I would have been out numbered in. So, I don't know. I feel like there are some things related to Jungle, and the reporting system that need to be fixed before I ever choose that role again.
Have to stop carrying the trash unless it's to the dumpster...
I disagree, in one game i was level 2 and enemy jgler was level 7 because he kept stealing my camps and roaming my jungle to kill me continuously, this lasted for a good 15 mins before he eventually got caught out and i was able to do my timers without him knowing when they were up
Thats literally whats happening to me, does anyone have a solution?
True story there's been games where I had 3 items and the enemy didnt even have one and I go fight them and I die. Nilah, Voli etc
I hate catchup XP in the jungle. It makes the role not fun. Stealing a whole side of the enemy jg's camps ends up rewarding them because they have a long time to wait for ganks that your laners won't respect and then have higher level camps with catchup XP next time.
a while ago I was playing with some friends as kha jg and I got my blue and gromp stolen. pretty pissed but I was just like "welp, guess im ganking early". we did win that game because I made it my mission to punish the enemy top and mid for their jungler taking my camps which made them tilt and flame their own jg. kind of the just had the mentality of "if I'm having a bad game, you're gonna have bad games too"
The reason people flame the jungler every game is that it's a literal mental condition. Their brains are as smooth and dense as a polished stone, and their egos are larger than a fed Chogath. Therefore, losing their lane can't possibly be their fault, and the jungler is the role that could've potentially held their hand and lost the game with them, so they flame them if they do and they flame them if they don't. It's not rocket science, and noone needs a course in human stupidity.
Had a 1 and 9 garen yell at me earlier this week. Jungling is rough.
Bro what are you cooking with those graves builds. Cleaver I get but frozen heart?
that course is no joke, I loved it it's the best.
Step 1: Flame and report everyone for griefing your game
Step 2: Delete League
Thanks Skillcapped! 🙏
you got challenger playing the safe way but theres other paths.
I think when pros spam their scoreboard it's because they didn't get the information they wanted. I do that too in various games. I can spam a stats screen but I know I have to do something on field or click something and the screen is in the way so it goes down, but it also comes back up almost immediately. Because I only needed one click or to check my field for a second. This looks like I am checking the whole stats screen multiple times but I'm not. I can't get that info in just .1 second.
17:15 SURELY. A cursed word I have told myself a 1000 times.
I would love to hear this kind of simple advice for lanes as well, as a midlaner I am always caught up in those jgl videos and then I don't know how to apply it properly ;-;
10:25 I feel that. Any time i heard advice "play around winning lanes" it always felt rly weird. like wdym play around it???
You're not sure what it means to play around a certain lane?
@@JesseTheGameDev like it always felt weird. Lots of the time I would have oppertunities on the other side of the map, and it felt like playing around a specific lane would take away from what I could be doing elsewhere
"you will be strong no matter what" is not good advice for someone with no mechanics to carry their lobby, sometimes you gotta stop farming and get your sion ahead so he can split push or get 2 shutdowns for your bot lane.
I was 19/1 jg getting questioned and taunted by my 2/15 bot lane XD
I'm not a good jungler at all, but quite frankly I love it when my laners run it down a little bit - purely because I get so much more shutdown gold and can put myself in the driving seat moreso than letting myself get carried.
Easiest tutorial on how to play jungle: /mute all - Farm - Objectives - Involve yourself in winning plays - Profit
this whole video is him yorking the chall rank
Interesting video. I have a question though. What makes you go out of yout way to ruin the game for people 5 divisions under you?