1:46 Probably the best call I've seen from an umpire all week As someone that umpires, this is a rule that fans constantly get wrong. Ruling for Deliberate Rushed Behinds: 18.11.2 subsection C: "has had time and space to dispose of the football; or". Subsection A talks about the 9 meter rule, however that is only once circumstance. What if it's a close game and you just run the full forward towards the 9 metres before stepping over to waste time and gain uncontested posession? If he was able to gather the ball, run further into the goal square, turn around and assess his options, he definitely had time and space to dispose of the football. Whether fans like it or not, that IS the rule, and the umpires don't write the rules they enforce them. I'm assuming this is something the UA has drilled into the umpires over the off-season, so I expect it to be called way more often.
Thought it was a weird call live but looking back on it I don't mind it... I mean what was toby doing? Huge brain fade by him and judging by his lack of reaction he wasn't overly surprised.
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Noah Anderson made a smart play to grab that ball and go but surely that’s an illegal disposal? Pretty sure we’ve seen that paid before when a teammate has ripped the ball away during a tackle and it’s been paid illegal disposal because there wasn’t a kick or handball and it wasn’t knocked out in the tackle…
love the vids! Also if youre making a point about the commentary please let it play without talking over it first, just makes it easier to hear what youre talking about
7:45 Darcy Wilmont removed from play by Adam Cerra Is the problem that Cerra took Wilmont front-on? Would it have been a problem if Cerra was running slower in the same direction as Wilmont? Cerra with no arms out to shepard Wilmont? When I was younger I was taught just to get passively in the way of someone like Wilmont. Even those seconds of delay for Wilmont would have made him irrelevant. My memory can be cloudy but this happens often even when nobody means to. Here's hoping for 15k.
It's one of those obscure rules that hardly ever gets paid. I can only think of one other time in recent games where it happend. It's a 50m penalty by the book but an odd one
Don't see how the Wilmot one can be 50m. If he kicked the ball its a downfield free, but he handballed it. Umpire played it perfectly I thought, gave a free kick then advantage
They brought in a rule a while ago that if you hold a player after they've disposed the ball it can be 50, but I don't think it applies to bumps, just holding
Its the Garry Ablett rule, got the pies the win againts the crows last year. Basically its a tactic to take out the player so they cant continue the run, he would've gotten the handball off and another kick most likely gone inside 50 from that play. But since he got knocked down without the ball he cant, Ablett got targetted with that heaps hence the Garry Ablett rule
Rule 19.3 states "If a Player intentionally makes Prohibited Contact against an opposition Player who has disposed of the football for the purpose of preventing that Player from taking part in the next act of play, the field Umpire shall award a Free Kick and a Fifty Metre Penalty to that Player." So I think it should have been a 50m penalty in my opinion.
Wilmot call is 100% correct. There's nothing stopping you bumping a player that's within the vicinity of the ball. Bumping and shepparding players takes them out of the contest, that's the whole point.
@@albinoninja-9691it’s banter you flog. ik afl fans have short memories but we literally cheered the living shit out of him last year at those games he was at when he was on the big screen.
2:57 if you watch closely, you'll see the goal umpire stumble a bit. I suspect the grass was wet and he had to take his eyes off the ball for a few seconds, that's why he called for the review.
Hey mate, at around 7:52 when Wilmot got hit by Cerra after disposing of it. How is that a 50? Isn't it just downfield? since no free kick was happening so a 50 can just be rewarded in open play
Rule 19.3 states "If a Player intentionally makes Prohibited Contact against an opposition Player who has disposed of the football for the purpose of preventing that Player from taking partin the next act of play, the field Umpire shall award a Free Kick and a Fifty Metre Penalty to that Player." So I think it should have been a 50m penalty in my opinion.
7:50 how is wilmonts a 50 meter pentalty when theres no initial free kick to give 50 to, they pay a downfield free to the handball but then advantage..
Rule 19.3 states "If a Player intentionally makes Prohibited Contact against an opposition Player who has disposed of the football for the purpose of preventing that Player from taking partin the next act of play, the field Umpire shall award a Free Kick and a Fifty Metre Penalty to that Player." So I think it should have been a 50m penalty in my opinion.
Think Hopper knocked the wind out of himself Toby Greene: He just has the worst resting smugface. Like that kid at school who argues "but im not doing anything" when they're clearly doing something annoying Trac: That ball was greasier than Buddy Franklins shoulders Broad: Cant say he was pressured enough that he was forced over the line. Great call Bowie: Very brave from both players. Hate to see the injury when its such a good contest BT: A lot of blokes kicking around with the same haircut. Now personally i dont like BT as a commentator but ill give him a pass there Aaaaand BT goes right back to annouing me Cameron: Usually one of the more reliable kicks at the lions... Odd Grimes: Thats why the Tigers have the biggest free kick differential When did you get so many subs dude? Congratulations. To be honest i rarely look at subs. Cloudy
I thought Lachie Whitfield forgetting the rule about standing on the mark was interesting. Bobby hill widened out on his run up to goal and Whitfield just kept shuffling across. The commentators just keep reiterating that he ‘simply forgot the rule’
Not sure if hot take but I don't really care about seeing a shank, unless its a shank shank. Like no cloudy weather directly in front 90 degrees to the left shank.
The Wilmot one I thought can't be 50 cause it's only 50 off a mark or freekick. Since he had the ball and it was in play it's just a down field freekick which was paid and then advantage was called. At least that's what I thought the rules were
Rule 19.3 states "If a Player intentionally makes Prohibited Contact against an opposition Player who has disposed of the football for the purpose of preventing that Player from taking partin the next act of play, the field Umpire shall award a Free Kick and a Fifty Metre Penalty to that Player." So I think it should have been a 50m penalty in my opinion.
BT just straight up nuts himself any time nick daicos gets within 10 metres of the ball. Not surprising he will confuse other players for him. Bros got a one track mind.
i know richmond ain’t your favourite team in the world as you’re an adelaide fan from memory but come on. if you watch the grimes replay he didn’t flop he got pushed and his feet caught the ground and he tripped. it was awful enough you haven’t done your due diligence and you’ve called it a flop but to act like the 50 against him was somehow deserving after acting like the 50 for him wasn’t there is outrageous… like seriously in what world is grimes one a flop and berrys one isn’t? watch an extra angle or two… smh 🤦♂️ awful umpiring. same as the broad decision. and speaking on that decision “limited pressure” my ass 🤣🤣 he less than one second away from being touched by an opposition player…
Fair call, both Grimes and Berry flop, that's pretty evident. But to do that right in front of the umpire is pretty silly. He got caught and penalized. If the defender pushes him over the line it's a point but I agree with the umpires decision this time.
@@holdingthebull idk i personally think grimes let himself fall as opposed to just stumbling after he tripped whilst berry made himself fall. when you get open palmed pushed in the chest, you don’t fall with your legs up and your head leaning forward… and with the broad thing, i’ll be keeping a keen eye on how they’re paying that this year. cos based on broads reaction it clearly wasn’t something the afl said they’d be stricter on to all the players. can’t think of a single reason he’d pay that besides the colours on the guernseys involved…
@@holdingthebulli’ve just saved a clip of the grimes thing and zoomed in and berry literally stands on his foot… grimes didn’t let himself fall he got tripped and pushed…
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I think we're forgetting the oddity of Round ZERO
good point
1:46 Probably the best call I've seen from an umpire all week
As someone that umpires, this is a rule that fans constantly get wrong. Ruling for Deliberate Rushed Behinds: 18.11.2 subsection C: "has had time and space to dispose of the football; or". Subsection A talks about the 9 meter rule, however that is only once circumstance. What if it's a close game and you just run the full forward towards the 9 metres before stepping over to waste time and gain uncontested posession?
If he was able to gather the ball, run further into the goal square, turn around and assess his options, he definitely had time and space to dispose of the football. Whether fans like it or not, that IS the rule, and the umpires don't write the rules they enforce them. I'm assuming this is something the UA has drilled into the umpires over the off-season, so I expect it to be called way more often.
I agree with everything you said. I think it will be called all year now and so it should
That call on holding up play on green was a terrible call. Ive seen guys walk awwy with it for much more than that
Toby tax in full effect :/
Yeah players do that basically every ballup and it doesnt get called
Thought it was a weird call live but looking back on it I don't mind it... I mean what was toby doing? Huge brain fade by him and judging by his lack of reaction he wasn't overly surprised.
anything to give daicos an extra kick
@@kovaci0000007 it's not that deep bro
Great to see the series back, if there's an oddity with the commentators calls you should let us hear it! Keep up the good work
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Thanks for that, makes it hard during the off season but back to it now!
I know it’s hard for you being a “seasonal channel” but letting you know I’ve been looking forward to these mate! You’re doing a great job, keep it up!
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Cloudy! Great work Holding The Bull! Love your videos! Go the Lions!
The new intro/title card looks great mate
Thanks man, appreciate it. Was looking for something to tie the videos together
Okay I’ll subscribe. Pretty much watched all of your vids last year. My oddity is that I thought the season started tomorrow, though I pretty much don’t watch tv, never read the Juuspaper nor listen to any commercial radio - and for good reason.
BT is shocking
7:57 is a free kick that advantage was taken on, not 50 as that's what is taught in the junior leagues, to take the runner out to prevent the overlap
True, but the rules have changed. Rule 19.3 says that should be 50m
7:52 I agree but the players can actually take advantage from a 50m penalty which in this case the player(s) have
Noah Anderson made a smart play to grab that ball and go but surely that’s an illegal disposal? Pretty sure we’ve seen that paid before when a teammate has ripped the ball away during a tackle and it’s been paid illegal disposal because there wasn’t a kick or handball and it wasn’t knocked out in the tackle…
I don't understand the secret code but Cloudy
6:42 - He calls for out on the full and then realizes it came off his leg and retracts his appeal lol
How good, a quick little oops!
love the vids! Also if youre making a point about the commentary please let it play without talking over it first, just makes it easier to hear what youre talking about
7:45 Darcy Wilmont removed from play by Adam Cerra
Is the problem that Cerra took Wilmont front-on? Would it have been a problem if Cerra was running slower in the same direction as Wilmont? Cerra with no arms out to shepard Wilmont?
When I was younger I was taught just to get passively in the way of someone like Wilmont. Even those seconds of delay for Wilmont would have made him irrelevant. My memory can be cloudy but this happens often even when nobody means to.
Here's hoping for 15k.
It's one of those obscure rules that hardly ever gets paid. I can only think of one other time in recent games where it happend. It's a 50m penalty by the book but an odd one
I saw the Langdon one at 6:30 live, and thought "wtf is he doing?" Haven't seen something like that at AFL level to my memory.
Crazy to see
Don't see how the Wilmot one can be 50m. If he kicked the ball its a downfield free, but he handballed it. Umpire played it perfectly I thought, gave a free kick then advantage
They brought in a rule a while ago that if you hold a player after they've disposed the ball it can be 50, but I don't think it applies to bumps, just holding
Its the Garry Ablett rule, got the pies the win againts the crows last year. Basically its a tactic to take out the player so they cant continue the run, he would've gotten the handball off and another kick most likely gone inside 50 from that play. But since he got knocked down without the ball he cant, Ablett got targetted with that heaps hence the Garry Ablett rule
Def not 50. Melon take that one.
Rule 19.3 states
"If a Player intentionally makes Prohibited Contact against an opposition Player who has disposed of the football for the purpose of preventing that Player from taking part in the next act of play, the field Umpire shall award a Free Kick and a Fifty Metre Penalty to that Player." So I think it should have been a 50m penalty in my opinion.
Hi Mate, love your work! Can I ask how you get the footage of the game? Do you screen record on Kayo? Thanks!
Wilmot call is 100% correct. There's nothing stopping you bumping a player that's within the vicinity of the ball. Bumping and shepparding players takes them out of the contest, that's the whole point.
Rules have changed though. Rule 19.3 says it should have been a 50m
I was at the Gold Coast v Richmond game and whenever Hardwick was shown on the screen, the crowd of Richmond supporters would BOO insanely loud.
He won them 3 flags. What sooks.
He was a great coach. It was a shame the way he left, though.
@@albinoninja-9691it’s banter you flog. ik afl fans have short memories but we literally cheered the living shit out of him last year at those games he was at when he was on the big screen.
Some cloudy games of footy
Love it, thanks for the comment
1:48 free kick every day - lets hope it is called every day...
Let's hope they call it throughout the year
2:57 if you watch closely, you'll see the goal umpire stumble a bit. I suspect the grass was wet and he had to take his eyes off the ball for a few seconds, that's why he called for the review.
Oh fair enough, I must have missed that one
@@holdingthebull Not a big one, I reckon he just second guessed himself. And as you said, it's involving Sydney... better safe than sorry! xD
Hey mate, at around 7:52 when Wilmot got hit by Cerra after disposing of it. How is that a 50? Isn't it just downfield? since no free kick was happening so a 50 can just be rewarded in open play
Rule 19.3 states
"If a Player intentionally makes Prohibited Contact against an opposition Player who has disposed of the football for the purpose of preventing that Player from taking partin the next act of play, the field Umpire shall award a Free Kick and a Fifty Metre Penalty to that Player." So I think it should have been a 50m penalty in my opinion.
Come on, you can't include BT being confused in a list of oddities. Maybe you start a new series of "things that happen every single week". 😉
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Good to see you back mate
It was very cloudy today
Sure was, thanks for commenting
Never thought there would be a round 0
It's so strange to have a Round 0 hey
yeah, oddities are finally back🎉@@holdingthebull
7:50 how is wilmonts a 50 meter pentalty when theres no initial free kick to give 50 to, they pay a downfield free to the handball but then advantage..
Rule 19.3 states
"If a Player intentionally makes Prohibited Contact against an opposition Player who has disposed of the football for the purpose of preventing that Player from taking partin the next act of play, the field Umpire shall award a Free Kick and a Fifty Metre Penalty to that Player." So I think it should have been a 50m penalty in my opinion.
Like your coment about the swans behind. 'the umpires panicked because its the swans' :)
Just curious brother, what team do you follow?
Hoping for more cloudy weather
CLOUDY in here!
Keen for oddities this season 💪
Think Hopper knocked the wind out of himself
Toby Greene: He just has the worst resting smugface. Like that kid at school who argues "but im not doing anything" when they're clearly doing something annoying
Trac: That ball was greasier than Buddy Franklins shoulders
Broad: Cant say he was pressured enough that he was forced over the line. Great call
Bowie: Very brave from both players. Hate to see the injury when its such a good contest
BT: A lot of blokes kicking around with the same haircut. Now personally i dont like BT as a commentator but ill give him a pass there
Aaaaand BT goes right back to annouing me
Cameron: Usually one of the more reliable kicks at the lions... Odd
Grimes: Thats why the Tigers have the biggest free kick differential
When did you get so many subs dude? Congratulations. To be honest i rarely look at subs. Cloudy
Today has been insane for subs. I love the buddy comment, made me laugh.
@@holdingthebull feel free to use it any time
The first miss was Hayden McLean not McDonald
waht are your coments on like 2/4 of the sides have a bi an not playing ??
I thought Lachie Whitfield forgetting the rule about standing on the mark was interesting. Bobby hill widened out on his run up to goal and Whitfield just kept shuffling across.
The commentators just keep reiterating that he ‘simply forgot the rule’
You can clearly see the other guy flops when grimes pushes him. Umps v Richmond when they started coming back
Yea both flop but doing that right in front of the umpire is just plain silly
Game has gone soft tho
Cloudy.
Not sure if hot take but I don't really care about seeing a shank, unless its a shank shank. Like no cloudy weather directly in front 90 degrees to the left shank.
Yea that's a fair call. I put them in if they are typically bad. There are plenty of shanks every game. I just try to get the really bad ones
Why don't they broadcast pitch invaders?
To try and stop people doing it
The Wilmot one I thought can't be 50 cause it's only 50 off a mark or freekick. Since he had the ball and it was in play it's just a down field freekick which was paid and then advantage was called. At least that's what I thought the rules were
Rule 19.3 states
"If a Player intentionally makes Prohibited Contact against an opposition Player who has disposed of the football for the purpose of preventing that Player from taking partin the next act of play, the field Umpire shall award a Free Kick and a Fifty Metre Penalty to that Player." So I think it should have been a 50m penalty in my opinion.
Curnow is a protected species - of course he wasn’t pinged.
With kicking like that dont ever complain about the umpiring 😫
So true
I am too sober to go through another year of listening to BT
The praise being heaped on McKay doe kicking a pretty standard goal as a key forward is insane.
BT just straight up nuts himself any time nick daicos gets within 10 metres of the ball. Not surprising he will confuse other players for him. Bros got a one track mind.
Definitely got a bit of Naicos on the mind
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Thanks Cheetah, appreciate it
Love your work
Just a heads up man. If yiu have a clip making fun on the commentary, best to play the commentaty and not talk over it
Yea that's a good call, I will do that next time for sure. Cheers
We can tell he likes brissy more than the blues
I'm a crows supporter
@@holdingthebull But cleary had the lions back there. Thank goodness you arent a pies supporter though
Love this content bro
Thanks Alex
Nice intro bro
Oh hey Addzy, welcome back man
@@holdingthebull wow you remembered me :) looking forward to a season of ur vids
@@AdzzyM of course I remember you. You always watch the videos and comment ☺️
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Ayyyy that's crazy
i know richmond ain’t your favourite team in the world as you’re an adelaide fan from memory but come on. if you watch the grimes replay he didn’t flop he got pushed and his feet caught the ground and he tripped. it was awful enough you haven’t done your due diligence and you’ve called it a flop but to act like the 50 against him was somehow deserving after acting like the 50 for him wasn’t there is outrageous… like seriously in what world is grimes one a flop and berrys one isn’t? watch an extra angle or two… smh 🤦♂️ awful umpiring. same as the broad decision. and speaking on that decision “limited pressure” my ass 🤣🤣 he less than one second away from being touched by an opposition player…
Fair call, both Grimes and Berry flop, that's pretty evident. But to do that right in front of the umpire is pretty silly. He got caught and penalized. If the defender pushes him over the line it's a point but I agree with the umpires decision this time.
@@holdingthebull idk i personally think grimes let himself fall as opposed to just stumbling after he tripped whilst berry made himself fall. when you get open palmed pushed in the chest, you don’t fall with your legs up and your head leaning forward… and with the broad thing, i’ll be keeping a keen eye on how they’re paying that this year. cos based on broads reaction it clearly wasn’t something the afl said they’d be stricter on to all the players. can’t think of a single reason he’d pay that besides the colours on the guernseys involved…
@@holdingthebulli’ve just saved a clip of the grimes thing and zoomed in and berry literally stands on his foot… grimes didn’t let himself fall he got tripped and pushed…
What team do you go for?
Crows
I’m a tigers fan myself
@@ultimatecollectibles we're supposed to be enemies because of the 2017 gf haha
Funny, clearly you never played the game.
Some of your opinions are seriously questionable on umpiring decisions.
That's ok if you don't agree with me. These are my opinions afterall
"Delayed free kick"? Is that even a rule....looks like a Victorian rule to me. Pathetic.
Boo Hoo the poor little Lions Lost, your comments about Carlton were Bollocks.
I'm a crows fan but....
commentating and general broadcasting is in a very, very bad place for AFL
fell asleep with this commentary, holy moly zzzzzzzzz
That's alright mate. It's not for everyone
definitely not me zzzzzzzzzzzzz@@holdingthebull
@@WINston_Binstonson all good. Thanks for giving it a shot anyway.
Hindi subtitles for wider audience @@holdingthebull 🍆
Seriously this is rubbish. Goodnight
Each to their own I guess
Round 0 was terrible
Cloudy
Thanks for the comment Andrew, appreciate it
@@holdingthebull thanks mate big up the vids
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