Since that first week of the new HTB it has significantly been forgotten. Felt like that first week everything as soon as tackled was either ball up or HTB. Now they are back to waiting for the tackle to either go to ground, an injury or just the ball to spill out, with it being so 50/50 again
3:30 if you watch it in slow mo he checks his kick when he realises that Howard has dove head first for the ball. Watch in slow mo, you can see as soon as he see's Howards going for a face first superman he checks (stops i.e. a baseball check swing)
7:15 perfect example of why not every tackle should be awarded a free kick. Sun's player didn't really have much prior, the ball spills out into play and both teams have a fair opportunity to contest it. Some tackles are simply to force the ball loose or make the opposition dispose of the ball. A second longer or an attempt to handball, break the tackle etc and I would agree but the player didn't have enough prior for Dixon to have been awarded a free kick. Sicilys is a perfect example of a free kick not paid, had prior, had an opportunity, and didnt dispose of the ball properly once tackled. Bad missed call.
You've actually got the rule a bit backwards in your mind... at least with the dixon one. Because Andrew made no genuine attempt to dispose of the football, it is holding the ball. The whole "knocked out in the tackle" interpretation is applied when the tackler physically makes contact with the ball itself, not the ball carrier. Regardless of all that, I'd say many would argue Andrew had prior opportunity anyways so HTB would still be correct.
Harry Jones had a clear mark for bombers that wasn't paid because the umpires thought Peter wright had hands on it. But the replay showed Jones was the only one to touch it. That was the only oddity other than terrible play in the bombers vs demons game.
i appreciate the umpire stuff. and i really like that you showed both sides. we all know that the umpiring has not been up to scratch. but its not any individual umpires fault. and i think its important to remember that the umpires love the game as much as the players, and just want to go out there, make the right calls and be a part of the AFL
The blame lays squarely with the AFL, so many umpire's on the field and not a season going by without a ton of rule changes. I think I heard that this year it was 29 changes.
Your call on Sicily of holding the ball is way off. He did have plenty of time to get rid of it but the Freo player just knocks the ball off his hand. By the time he actually tackled him the ball was gone.
With the Hoskin-Elliot one you missed the umpire yelling play on at him before he kicked it. The slip made it look like he was forced to rush as he expected to have a set shot. Not sure why it was play on.
I was extremely mad when Calsher Dear touched w the wizard’s almost goal and also a few rounds before that again Calsher Dear touched Weddle’s almost goal when he kicked it from 55-60 metres out
Collingwood vs Geelong umpires were pretty shocking, they were definitely calling everything when they wanted to then missed pretty easy calls. Happened for and against both sides
It was Calsher Dear that touched Watson's kick at goal on the line. I am not convinced that he did touch it but it was an "umpire's call" who had called it touched and insufficient evidence. The oddest part is that is the second time he has touched one on the goal line from Watto.
4:40 2nd tackle is high from 35 10:30 it looks like he gets a sloppy hand to it, watch it half speed if you can't see it, there's defeinitely movement from the other hand at the ball when the ball comes out. I'm convinced umpires have had the holding the ball rule redacted from their copy of the rules.
Witherden: That was perfect. Not quite as good as Rankine and Andrews last week though Ross: Grumpy Ross is still there somewhere Blicavs: Great pass. If there wasn't a foul called they could go for a layup Jezza: Kinda looked like Wile E. Coyote getting snagged on a giant Acme catapult Keane: It at least looked like a hand pass which is more than the Blicavs one can say Hipwood: Kicking goals he should miss and missing goals he should kick since 2016 Greene: The Toby tax pays for the suspensions he usually gets fined for. It's stupid. In this case, it's a free for high contact until the ump calls him back or pays the 50 Rachelle: I think it's important to note that Rachelle didn't know Howard would be jumping in front of that ball and he wasn't trying to be dirty. In fact Rachelle was limping pretty badly for a while after. But that is kicking in danger if I ever saw it. However he was fined Wizard: He'll get there. He's looking dangerous which is good. Would look better if Meek stayed out of it!! Ump: There is way too much for the umps to worry about in game. The AFL need to overhaul the adjudication of the game to make it more black and white (insufficient intent happens when this criteria. Holding is this criteria). In fact I wonder if the scrutiny makes it worse. Think about it. You have 19 different camera angles of every umpire fuck up every week. You're then bashed by the media and every other platform in existence. Making any line call must be difficult Sicily: You always look sillier when you make a big deal over it. And you look really silly there Sicily Pou: That's a nice goal. The wet helps it bounce straight, but to get that distance and accuracy on a soggy ball is a thing to behold Aliir: Intercept defender gonna try to intercept... On a serious note. Dude stay down for that. If they drop the mark you pick it up Mead: Great kick. Think it got lost in the sun but it takes a good kick to get it there BZT: The kick looked like it was a set play. It was just the Port players didn't go there and the Sun's did. As for the rest of it, sometimes you know you're standing under a hospital ball and just have to contest Andrew: It's not a lot of prior, but it's there. Good call from the behind the play ump Elliot: It wasn't even Elliot's foot it came off... I really don't like BT as a game commentator. His in the room stuff is great but he's like a curry. He's great, just too much gives me the shits. BT all game every week is too much BT Farrell: Footy is getting like soccer with the diving. I hate it. If we did that in country footy our own coach would drag us even if we got a 50 Finlayson: Eww Roos ball movement: Yup you're right. Can they do it all game though? Sicily: Ball. All day Cameron: Yes Missed who you said it was. Richmond: He nearly missed the boot Libba: He kinda got a hand in. Still holding but not badly Murray: That's how to bump. Beautiful Wet: It's so wet it does need foreplay Kai: Weak 50 Hoskin-Elliot: That sucks. Funny though Chol: Great tackle Tex-John Ceeeenaaaaaa Farrell/Long: The odd cancels out Elliot: The more pressure on him the better
2 back to back oddities from yourself which is pretty ironic. It wasn't Lloyd Meek who touched it, it was Calsher Dear, and it wasn't Will Day who got caught, it was Josh Ward
It seems that the rule when tackled and the ball falls out of players arms is no longer holding the ball as the umpires don't seem to play it a free at all, I thought it was part of the rules obviously not
Bombers oddity is that they played the first and last 10 minutes of the game and not the rest. Horrible game, could not beat a high school girls team in the wet.
Personally, with my Italian background I call it Football (Soccer) and I don't and won't call it soccer, only Football or Calcio, but I'm fine with the commentators saying the Euros, Copa America or World Cup. If anything, I'm surprised they know about the Euros
all for bashing the umpires this year, CEO wants to claim the umpiring has been the best we've ever seen yet there is 100 obvious free kicks missed each week
I love these videos every week, but getting a bit over the endless review of incorrect holding-the-ball decisions. I get that umpiring is terrible at the moment, but sometimes it's nice to pretend that it's not and just watch some actual oddities
Funny how the umps can be presented with an absolute textbook example of kicking in danger and yet they completely forget the rule even exists.
Saw it paid for the first time this year in dogs blues game
3:18 they never pay kicking in danger anymore and it pisses me off
they only pay when its not actually kicking in danger lol
I look forward to seeing a video highlighting 15m kicks this week from friday night to the eagles game. umpires losing depth perception
Defensive chip around kicks that only go 8 metres are hugely annoying.
Remember guys the umpiring is "the best its every been"
4.11 is calsher dear went to mark it
4:11
4:08 not Lloyd Meek, it's Calsher Dear 😄😄4:37 is also Josh Ward, not Will Day
Absolutely loving this new style, giving yourself a bit more freedom and letting the humour come through, keep it up!
3:14 😭😭😭 I’m crying 🤣🤣🤣
4:11 thats calsher dear *facepalm*
9:47 considering they didnt call it holding the ball, i reckon they couldve called it dangerou stackle or holding the man
7:37 come on now it's good as it's ever been 😂
Since that first week of the new HTB it has significantly been forgotten. Felt like that first week everything as soon as tackled was either ball up or HTB. Now they are back to waiting for the tackle to either go to ground, an injury or just the ball to spill out, with it being so 50/50 again
In the Lions game Harley Reid runs past a lions player calling for the ball theres another oddity
Harley Reid you mean
Oh yeah haha oops I made that comment in a rush
8:11 💀 bro is BT’s friend😂
Port Adelaide's Finlaaayson is out for the season from a typical tackle in the 1st qtr. He ruptured his spleen
North ing from Melbourne vs Essendon come on I went to that game near the front too (flagdees)
3:30 if you watch it in slow mo he checks his kick when he realises that Howard has dove head first for the ball. Watch in slow mo, you can see as soon as he see's Howards going for a face first superman he checks (stops i.e. a baseball check swing)
7:15 perfect example of why not every tackle should be awarded a free kick. Sun's player didn't really have much prior, the ball spills out into play and both teams have a fair opportunity to contest it. Some tackles are simply to force the ball loose or make the opposition dispose of the ball. A second longer or an attempt to handball, break the tackle etc and I would agree but the player didn't have enough prior for Dixon to have been awarded a free kick. Sicilys is a perfect example of a free kick not paid, had prior, had an opportunity, and didnt dispose of the ball properly once tackled. Bad missed call.
You've actually got the rule a bit backwards in your mind... at least with the dixon one. Because Andrew made no genuine attempt to dispose of the football, it is holding the ball. The whole "knocked out in the tackle" interpretation is applied when the tackler physically makes contact with the ball itself, not the ball carrier. Regardless of all that, I'd say many would argue Andrew had prior opportunity anyways so HTB would still be correct.
Harry Jones had a clear mark for bombers that wasn't paid because the umpires thought Peter wright had hands on it. But the replay showed Jones was the only one to touch it. That was the only oddity other than terrible play in the bombers vs demons game.
Langford got flattened in a marking contest. Was a free kick 8 days a week, but somehow not a single umpire saw it.
@@samh3157 oh yeah!
i appreciate the umpire stuff. and i really like that you showed both sides. we all know that the umpiring has not been up to scratch. but its not any individual umpires fault. and i think its important to remember that the umpires love the game as much as the players, and just want to go out there, make the right calls and be a part of the AFL
The blame lays squarely with the AFL, so many umpire's on the field and not a season going by without a ton of rule changes. I think I heard that this year it was 29 changes.
Your call on Sicily of holding the ball is way off. He did have plenty of time to get rid of it but the Freo player just knocks the ball off his hand. By the time he actually tackled him the ball was gone.
You missed the deliberate out of bounds in the Saints, Crows game that had both coaches just laughing at the absurdity of the decision.
The Farrell one - Longs hip hits Farrells back. It's not a 50, but I don't think he played that up
Hipwood miskicks so much you’d think his favourite meal was a braised lamb shank
I agree how does Charlie get 3 weeks for that tackle? That’s outrageous
gotta love how north playing well is an odditie
I go for the suns and what a suns game it was but the suspensions are very annoying and frustrating
Thoughts on the boundary umpire saying the ball ‘touched the line’ in the hawks freo game
What about larky’s throw roos’ goal not called? Oh wait, I guess these kinds of f* ups are pretty common now. 😂
With the Hoskin-Elliot one you missed the umpire yelling play on at him before he kicked it. The slip made it look like he was forced to rush as he expected to have a set shot. Not sure why it was play on.
Looks like it was the small stutter step that he took after the mark which was what made the umpire call play on.
I was extremely mad when Calsher Dear touched w the wizard’s almost goal and also a few rounds before that again Calsher Dear touched Weddle’s almost goal when he kicked it from 55-60 metres out
Hey holding the bull👍
Tyson stengle goal where he threw it before he scored
Collingwood vs Geelong umpires were pretty shocking, they were definitely calling everything when they wanted to then missed pretty easy calls. Happened for and against both sides
how Jezza & Rachele weren't even sited for dangerous acts, but C Cameron & Bedfodrd Get 3 weeks, for Good tackles is beyond me.
It was Calsher Dear that touched Watson's kick at goal on the line. I am not convinced that he did touch it but it was an "umpire's call" who had called it touched and insufficient evidence. The oddest part is that is the second time he has touched one on the goal line from Watto.
no, the first time he touched it on the line it was josh weddles goal against gws
4:40 2nd tackle is high from 35
10:30 it looks like he gets a sloppy hand to it, watch it half speed if you can't see it, there's defeinitely movement from the other hand at the ball when the ball comes out.
I'm convinced umpires have had the holding the ball rule redacted from their copy of the rules.
That was just a normal Tom Liberatore "handball" at 10:32. He hasn't got a fist to a handball attempt in his career.
Witherden: That was perfect. Not quite as good as Rankine and Andrews last week though
Ross: Grumpy Ross is still there somewhere
Blicavs: Great pass. If there wasn't a foul called they could go for a layup
Jezza: Kinda looked like Wile E. Coyote getting snagged on a giant Acme catapult
Keane: It at least looked like a hand pass which is more than the Blicavs one can say
Hipwood: Kicking goals he should miss and missing goals he should kick since 2016
Greene: The Toby tax pays for the suspensions he usually gets fined for. It's stupid. In this case, it's a free for high contact until the ump calls him back or pays the 50
Rachelle: I think it's important to note that Rachelle didn't know Howard would be jumping in front of that ball and he wasn't trying to be dirty. In fact Rachelle was limping pretty badly for a while after. But that is kicking in danger if I ever saw it. However he was fined
Wizard: He'll get there. He's looking dangerous which is good. Would look better if Meek stayed out of it!!
Ump: There is way too much for the umps to worry about in game. The AFL need to overhaul the adjudication of the game to make it more black and white (insufficient intent happens when this criteria. Holding is this criteria). In fact I wonder if the scrutiny makes it worse. Think about it. You have 19 different camera angles of every umpire fuck up every week. You're then bashed by the media and every other platform in existence. Making any line call must be difficult
Sicily: You always look sillier when you make a big deal over it. And you look really silly there Sicily
Pou: That's a nice goal. The wet helps it bounce straight, but to get that distance and accuracy on a soggy ball is a thing to behold
Aliir: Intercept defender gonna try to intercept... On a serious note. Dude stay down for that. If they drop the mark you pick it up
Mead: Great kick. Think it got lost in the sun but it takes a good kick to get it there
BZT: The kick looked like it was a set play. It was just the Port players didn't go there and the Sun's did. As for the rest of it, sometimes you know you're standing under a hospital ball and just have to contest
Andrew: It's not a lot of prior, but it's there. Good call from the behind the play ump
Elliot: It wasn't even Elliot's foot it came off... I really don't like BT as a game commentator. His in the room stuff is great but he's like a curry. He's great, just too much gives me the shits. BT all game every week is too much BT
Farrell: Footy is getting like soccer with the diving. I hate it. If we did that in country footy our own coach would drag us even if we got a 50
Finlayson: Eww
Roos ball movement: Yup you're right. Can they do it all game though?
Sicily: Ball. All day
Cameron: Yes
Missed who you said it was. Richmond: He nearly missed the boot
Libba: He kinda got a hand in. Still holding but not badly
Murray: That's how to bump. Beautiful
Wet: It's so wet it does need foreplay
Kai: Weak 50
Hoskin-Elliot: That sucks. Funny though
Chol: Great tackle
Tex-John Ceeeenaaaaaa
Farrell/Long: The odd cancels out
Elliot: The more pressure on him the better
Looks like Dear not Meek on the goal line and definitely was Ward not Day in 2nd clip.
4:17 clearly shows Meek (number 17) didn't go up for the ball
It was Calsher Dear not loyd meek that stopped nick watsons goal ;)
Jake Riccardi hit the very top of the point post
What about the Barrass unpaid mark? That was an interesting one.
9:19 Sheezel did not handball the ball at all lol, reason the play was highlighted but you do you.
Have you seen the suspension for dangerous tackle on tim tarranto
Run down tackles haven't been paid for the last month or so every game I've watched have had 3 or 4 not paid
Finlayson missed because he got the pettracaa injury and played through
2 back to back oddities from yourself which is pretty ironic. It wasn't Lloyd Meek who touched it, it was Calsher Dear, and it wasn't Will Day who got caught, it was Josh Ward
7:38 I don’t reckon that should’ve been holding the ball he barely had prior good tackle but doesn’t mean it should be ball
What about when the Sydney player tried to give it to Blakey but Blakey had his hand up to the sun
4:07 that was calsher dear not lloyd meek
It’s wasn’t loyd meek that touched the wizards goal.
It was calsha deer
The best it’s ever been
It seems that the rule when tackled and the ball falls out of players arms is no longer holding the ball as the umpires don't seem to play it a free at all, I thought it was part of the rules obviously not
Missed the swearing commentator in the freo game 😂
Where was wizards make 😢
Bombers oddity is that they played the first and last 10 minutes of the game and not the rest. Horrible game, could not beat a high school girls team in the wet.
Next time put in the throw from Trent rivers from Melbourne against Essendon
Great video mate
It wasn’t Lloyd meek that tried to mark it it was Calsher dear
what about the bump from liam ryan in 4th quater
Lot of Port Gold Coast here
missed the best on with the wrong song at the end of lions game
4:03 that ain’t loyd meek
Wines dropped the ball because the umpire blew the whistle before he even marked it
Personally, with my Italian background I call it Football (Soccer) and I don't and won't call it soccer, only Football or Calcio, but I'm fine with the commentators saying the Euros, Copa America or World Cup. If anything, I'm surprised they know about the Euros
Alir Alir has so many questionable moments
Meek=Deer Day= Ward
I get you might not watch every game but North has been playing like that for the past 5 weeks.
How did Cameron get 3 weeks?
you can tell which game he watched on Saturday night
Where's the essendon and Melbournegame?
all for bashing the umpires this year, CEO wants to claim the umpiring has been the best we've ever seen yet there is 100 obvious free kicks missed each week
aliir should be forced to do laps all training for that stunt.
11:17 so stupid hes legit abt to play on in the first place
Amazing! Btw first!
9:04, I burst out laughing seeing this, Port suck.
It’s clashes deer and Josh word
I want to see where the umps are every bad call . Then its proof they had unimpeded vision of the contest
I love these videos every week, but getting a bit over the endless review of incorrect holding-the-ball decisions. I get that umpiring is terrible at the moment, but sometimes it's nice to pretend that it's not and just watch some actual oddities
9:55 you explained it yourself, he knocked the ball out, thats not a free kick .
4:38 you really dont know your hawthorn players do you XD thats Josh Ward #25
Oos lad
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If you’re worried about saying Mexican standoff you can just say standoff
Surly just standing there is insufficient intent anyway. I mean you're not trying to keep it in are you?
this match is disgrace