Bad Batch Director CONFIRMS Why Ventress is Alive - Dark Disiple Explained (Season 3)
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"Just when you think you understand the Force, you find out how little you actually know."
-Ahsoka Tano
Yeah, especially when they need to make shit up
"Once, I was just like you, but I'm not that person anymore. Now, I have a future."
-Asajj Ventress
The Night Sister mystical "Lazarus Pit" theory makes sense (and I love the Batman reference, BTW).
I am glad they are brinign gher back, and hope that her redemption arc continues. She was a great character, who went through a great deal of suffering, but managed to transcend it in a way Maul did not.
Can't wait to see it.
He just threw that reference in there fully expecting us to understand 😂
With the Nightsister’s force powers a sister of Dathomir may never be truly gone.
Mother Talsin is alive still and she could have easily brought back Ventress. She did it before.
@@dragnet53unfortunately Mother Talzin died in the Son of Dathomir comics by general grevious. It would be cool if she came back too but she didn’t die on Dathomir so I feel that it’s less likely.
I will say Faloni and this new era's focus on balance its a breath of fresh air. No one is perfect and no one is pure evil, but a balance without losing yourself is what matters
I have been waiting for the day that they bring her back. How the novel ended it always made sense to me that she could have been resurrected as she was buried in the Waters of Life in the coven at Dathomir. So happy they finally did it!
It would make sense. And I love that you compared it to the Lazarus Pit
If they can somehow revive her, why not the other Nightsisters? I wish characters would just stay dead instead of bringing them back to life just because.
Did you not listen to the video, or did you just hear what you wanted to hear?
@@talon532yup and it just cheapens her story. Nothing but fan service and lazy writing
I could see Quinlan holding onto her lightsabers as a means of keeping a piece of her with him and we do know he survived to join The Path
They confirmed that she was revived after the body was returned to Dathomir
where did they confirm this?
Shut up
@@bryanfrazier4648they didn’t . There always wanna be wikis in here just ignore it
@@bryanfrazier4648They buried her next to dathomirs river in which has resurrection properties in the water that’s what I heard
@@C02576i don't know if this cheapens her story or not but we will see based on how they tell the story and how they play her as a character
Somehow...Ventress came back.
Excellent recap! Although, I will say, you commented about Star Wars bringing back another character from the deaf "for no reason". Here's my thinking:
Not for NO reason. For ONE reason. The sequel trilogy was SO devisive and not good overall, that they're stuck. "Where do we take Rey from here after being so poorly received?"
The ONE reason: they have no confidence in their storytelling ability moving forward, therefore, they keep turning to characters, fan favorite characters, of the past. It's been happening since Rogue One, but I would argue that both Rogue One and Mandalorian S:2 E:8 did it right and in very good taste.
This is really nice story. Asajj is really cool character. Asajj in light side-very powerful sight. May the Force be with you too😊
lets be real, they brought her back because they know they dont have the creativity or skill to create a new character or adapt a universe character that fans will actually like (they’ve proven that time and time again), so instead they decided to bring back one that they know the fans like. they are focused on doing as little creative work as possible while still attempting to maximize monetary gain. ive stopped watching everything disney. only way to show them how shit they are is to boycott. i suggest we all do the same and stop treating mediocrity as an acceptable standard for a MULTI-BILLION dollar company. honestly this applies to a lot of the entertainment industry, not just disney star wars.
Maybe they just want Asajj to eventually meet up with Merrin?
A Dathomir family reunion
Well. I don't think the writers of dark disciples ever thought she would return. That was a very clear send off to the character. Although her return makes more sense due to her specal night sister circumstance, i don't think it should have been done. She's an interesting character but this feels cheap. If they wanted to tell her story make a dark disciple movie. They need to make original characters instead of changing the stories of old one's. Plus a resurrection is ok in some situations where the story of the character supports it, in this situation it really doesn't. It just feels like ventress could make them a lot of money
What really felt cheap was her supposed send off. Hlad she is back, 'cause the book was very tropey and full of cliche bullshit
Amazing video and Asajj Ventress is one of favourite characters in Star Wars ever.
The type of character Ventress represents is something I've wanted to see get more representation on screen in Star Wars. I really hope her story takes her well beyond Bad Batch, and maybe even eventually meeting back up with Ahsoka or something.
3 theory’s I have: 1. She is a clone of the original Ventress. Palpatine did clone himself in both legends and canon and someone might have been obsessed with the nightsisters and he/she wanted to bring that culture back. 2: It’s a flashback (even though highly unlikely) Ventress could have met the Bad Batch at some point before her death who was trying to hide from the Galaxy but somehow the galaxy keeps bringing her back which is through the Bad Batch keep crossing her path. Or 3 the writers did what Ventress did in legends where she faked her death.
Ventress was killed by Dooku, and Dooku died before The Bad Batch went on the run.
@@g1mysterio682 was she killed by a lightsaber? I’ve never read the book but I do know she died
I've been thinking of option 3 since WAY before this show premiered. But option 2 is equally plausible.
@@IsmaelCiulla when she dies, she's already wounded from debris, and Dooku kills her with force lightning. Quinlan Vos and Obi Wan take her body back to the nightsister cave on Dathomir at the end of the book. Nightsister Magic has resurrected people before, so I think it's plausible that she's actually alive
@@g1mysterio682 point taken
Ventress has become Ada Wong.
“we ran of out ideas”
Doesn't seem like it.
This could be right before her death, timeline fits rather good.
Yes she’s back baby
TCW fanbois won't tell you this, but they absolutely hated when Darth Maul returned (he had been revived so much it was kind of a meme). So Ventress returning doesn't move the needle much for me, but am curious about what will she do in the BB show, given it's the final season.
I'm glad Maul returned otherwise we wouldn't get to see Mandalore anymore nor would we be able to finally see Palpatine get up off his lazy ass and actually fight.
I am rather skeptical that Vintress would want the sith sabers back, they were given to her by Dooku, who she now despises. They would also likely be hard to get as Anakin turned them over to the tribunal as evidence, so likely one way or another, they likely ended up in Sheev's hands. More likely she just made her own handle for her saber, that suited her style.
I love Ventress she's literally one of my favorite characters in The Clone Wars I love her Redemption Ark I'm just seeing her alive in the bad batch makes me wonder what they're going to do with her character or this is going to lead into a series all about her I guess we'll just have to see
This channel is great. Talks Star Wars and not politics or motives of movies or series. Just plot and story. Always been this way and may it never change. By far my favorite on you tube.
She's probably one of the few characters in the universe, you can bring back and people go, meh makes sense. We watched nightsister magic do some wonky shit. Still doesn't change star wars has brought back/allowed people to live from terrible wounds for too long. People will hate this too.
I LOVE YOU. I’ve been a fan of yours ever since your darth plaguies is snoke theory!!!
The pool was literally called the waters of life
Sounds like she's been resurrected by the pool
Never read dark disciple, but based on what I've heard about it and some of the thigs you pointed out i the video, this could actually work if done correctly.
Being a Nightsister of Dathomir and the way she was buried at the end of Dark Disciple, her resurrection seems... less cheap than a lot of the other "actually, they didn't die like we thought" situations. BUT... Star Wars has worked itself into a corner where they have said "actually, this character didn't die as previously suggested" far too many times, and if nobody ever dies, there are no stakes. So even though Ventress being alive probably makes more sense than the other characters, I'm over it.
It’s like superhero comics where no one can stay dead. I don’t know how people read that stuff anymore.
I want to see Vos as well. Thanks for the video.
Hunter and Quinlan tracking together would be kinda sick
I hate off screen deaths so im ok with this
Honestly, I just don't care as long as she gets a good story and isn't just tossed in as a cameo or fan service.
It makes sense to me. When I first heard she was alive I thought it had to do with the magic on dathomir which can revive, or reanimate beings. Especially since she's a night sister
I don't care about that novel, just give me Asajj. Killing her was one of the dumbest choices ever.
its so goofy that she survived the most crazy sh*t in clone wars but just to get rid of the character she dies in some random altercation in a comic
I hope she’s after qunilin, there’s no force user relationship that makes sense in Star Wars except this one, Rey and Ben was just dumb
So glad to see Ventress come back been saying it should happen for a long time hope we get her in live action too
I never believed that she was dead, anyway. I remember the battle on Dathomir when the other Nightsisters came back to life to fight.
I wonder if Ventres could a purple lightsaber if she want to embrace the Dark Side some what?
We now have a force user running around who could go toe to toe with Anikan and obi at the same time yikes ! If she has a grudge against Asoka , Asoka is in some major doggy doo doo
Why would she 🤨? In season 5 they kind of squashed their past when Ventress help her clear her name. Even told Anakin that she and her are the same.
I just want to see Ventris and Asoka kick off lmao 😂
She lives
It was really nice to see Asajj not as a pawn but as herself!! She’s one with the force and the force is with her! ❤ 😍 finally!
Disney Star Wars doesn't care about what's in the novels or comic books, it's all about what's on screen to them. And in my opinion, they just reconned Dark Disciple.
So the green stuff brought her back? Someone owes a debt.
Dear gawd... if somehow Ventress and Vader met... again....
Am so freaking happy she back l was screaming at my TV when I saw her
“No one’s ever really gone”
In Legends the original Je'daii were balanced in both sides of the force, however I wonder, if they originally had a symbothic relationship with the dark side as the night sisters did.
Easy, they wanted a female character people will like so the said screw continuity, and brought her back. Like the Lucas story group haven’t given a damn about continuity since day 1, so why would they now.
In Legends or EU or Expanded Universe or LV Asajj was way more then just a throwaway character note Dooku Nor Sidious saw her as a true sith but saw her as a valuable assassin although a inferior one to Grievous And Maul with Grievous in terms of physical abilities and saber combat and with Maul with unarmed combat, force use, and physical attributes and probably blade mastery as well but still Asajj boasted a well rounded track record in certain sitiuations where she had lots of prep time and environmental advantages like her fights against Anakin, Obi Wan, and even Mace the latter because she had the atmosphere giving her the edge yet Mace still would of beat her had the fight continued and she did not use a distraction to escape but still her origin story was more well spotted and markered compared to her Disney and or Canon selfs yeah.
Realize she was Anakins balance she became good as anakin became bad
Here's a thought. If the theory from ahsoka is true where the ones are passing the baton, what if ventress is the son 2.0? Given they may be rewriting Ray Stevenson's roll and he was theorized to fill that roll, it's unfortunately easy to throw her into that roll if they don't keep his story the day. Only way I can think this would make sense though is with some necessary force related revival, how she's revived doesn't 100% matter imo, just as long as she's back
I'd quit Canon starwars forever if this happened
@kermi4 honestly, I'm just saying that as a ventress fan. Whether that happens or not, I think we're all just wondering how/why she's alive, post clone wars. Anything past a half decent explanation is just a plus for the character.
in my fan fiction, my character, who had a special friendship with Aayla Secura, is intrigued to learn how she felt regarding her former master's fall from grace.
She might have been a #TDBank💳 card holder which explains her return...🌎💘💰
I hope you're right about Ventress staying in the light.
Wow!
My favorite character.
Ventress coming back still has me concerned. I hope that my concern is for nothing.
And it makes sense that after vos thought she died and order 66 happened that he went on to help the hidden path .,.. Maybe we'll see them unite again ...I hope so.
What exactly makes you believe, Marrok was resurrected? He does not act like a zombie, the dust that gets out of thim looks nothing like the bright green spirit ichor and the sound it makes is also different from the sound of Nightsister magick.
That doesn't mean that it is not Nightsister magick but it means that we don't know for sure until official confirmation. Until then, it is also possible, Marroks creepy death has different reasons, maybe the reason lies within his species. Just don't forget, he's not the first Inquisitor that turned into nothing after Ahsoka killed him.
Nightsister magick is ONE explaination, a very vage one at that, keeping in mind we've never heard of a resurrection ritual, that actually gives life instead of just reanimating a dead body, before.
It's not her old lightsaber, there are no bands and clips. It's created after her resurrection. Version with the pool sound plausable.
She’s used the light side before though she had trained as a Jedi for years before her Master was killed and Dooku found her
Sure Marrok is an example of resurrection being done before but he seemed to be still an undead being not truly alive. If Nightsister magic is this powerful why did Sidious allow the Nightsisters to be wiped out it would’ve helped massively with his immortality scheme.
I hope merrin and asajj meet and gives her lightsaber to merrin
I have a bad feeling about this
I just wish we got animated Dark Disciple!
Idk why you say the novel is Canon, Lucas and Filoni have said that the shows and movies are the only canon
Would be cool if it was dooks saber hilt.
As they say and as we have seen thorough out the clone wars, through the magics of the nightsisters, many and nearly all things are possible.
That makes sense about the death of Ventress from the novel and how the magic could have brought her back
somehow...maul's bottom half returned
It’s a mythical galaxy . You can bring back anything to life and call it making sense…. Does it mean it’s good writing though.
I’m still not sure about her coming back it just seems like death really isn’t a thing in star wars anymore and nobody stays dead
Qui-Gon Jin, Obi-Wan & Yoda after the return of the Jedi and every Jedi that died on order 66, Dooku, Grievous, Savage Oppress……etc yeah I disagree I beg to differ 😂
THIS IS OUTRAGEOUS
Im so fucking sick of this fuckin bullshit nonsense of killing people and bringing them back..... either dont kill them in the first place if youre not done telling their story , or kill them dead. The list is now - Maul , Boba Fett , Ahsoka 3 TIMES! , Fennec Shand , Palpatine , Rey, Cobb Vanth Ventress Echo..... thats not including fake deaths.....
At this point its more surprising if someones stays dead
Poor Qui-Gon...
Through the power of Disney's unoriginality and Ventress' Giga-Karen hairstyle, somehow she returned.
It’s called a retcon it happens in comics too
god damn it 😐😑😐
now they're gonna make "Asaj" "live action" 🤦♂️🙇♂️
No one ever really dies in Star Wars.
Makes total sense to bring in such a character with the story arc Disney is following. I have a feeling we'll see Ventress resurrected like the entire hold of the trans-galactic Star Destroyer who's made a full deposit on Dathomir. First she'll be re-infused with dark force magic, then gradually will turn it over in Ashoka Season 3 to her true balanced self.
😊
I am excited for season 3, but Asajj being revived by night sister’s magic, don’t buy it. Yes they can revive the dead, we saw it already on the animated series and Ahsoka, but they didn’t revive as fully sentient beings, more like zombie style, and Asajj looks pretty much alive.
The book takes place after Quinn Lon and obi wan tries to get Cade bane and clearly dooku dies so her death is before anakin change to Vader it would make the book legends or even make it nothing if they bring her back
The book was too good to change it it fits quin Lin vos perfect I feel as he was always different
Somehow…. Asajj Ventress has returned
do you think this is setting up a star wars rom-com with Ventress and Quinlan?
She didn't die in Canon, for books and comics are a separate Canon to the movies and series
Does Quinlan Vos have a death in Canon? Because if not I want Ventress to go back to him and live a life together in the outer rim
I always said ventress was too good of a character to just kill off in a book off screen
it'll be worth it IF they make her a good character like maul
SHE IS A FORCE VAMPIRE.A unholy force being that will consume us all..Lol.THE JEDI BE LIKE....SHE HAS TO DIE IMMEDIATELY LOL
Why not, Maul survived getting cut in half.
See, this is why I can't take current SW content seriously anymore. If everyone keeps coming back from the dead, then what's the point of worrying about a character's safety?? There's no stakes. No tension. Two things that make stories go round.
Abusing the resurrection trope is a bad habit and a telling sign the writers r out of ideas. It needs to stop.
And besides, It's THEIR fault the sequel trilogy sucked and Mary Rey Sue was universally rejected by the fans. Let's not forget how poorly the Lucasfilm execs have treated the fan base with Iger and Kennedy constantly telling us to "sit down and shut up" like we're a bunch of noisy children and accept their obvious push of DEI and The Message in future SW content.
Team Ventress! 🙌🏽
Can someone just give us the TL:DR version. 11 mins is ridiculous for this
i find it extremely dumb for everyone to be saying she found one of her old lightsabers, is she not capable of making a new hilt in the same design? i mean it looks similar but so very different and thats only from a glance, when you LOOK at it, its much more elegant and representative of her new stance in the force
Day 378 of asking for a part 3 of what if anakin was trained by qui gon