Why Michael Jordan is NOT the GOAT!
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 19 มิ.ย. 2024
- We done with the 90s! Delve into the intricacies of Michael Jordan's championship journey as this video dissects key moments from his career. Through a critical lens, it explores the competition he faced and the circumstances surrounding his victories. From the early years against compromised opponents to the later challenges against formidable teams like the Utah Jazz, every aspect is scrutinized. Gain a deeper understanding of Jordan's greatness and the debates surrounding his legacy. Is he still the undisputed GOAT? Watch and weigh in with your thoughts on this compelling analysis. Subscribe now and join the discussion!
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You are way too biased. Its a proven fact that Lebron cannot beat Candace Parker 1 on 1. Where ever Lebron ranks he is not as good as Candace Parker
Lebron can beat any body in the WBA
Michael jordan will never lose in a goat debate.
FACT CHECK: Magic didn't test positive for HIV until AFTER the 1991 finals.
Magic averaged 19.5 ppg for his career so averaging less than 20ppg for the finals isn't a major surprise. Besides have you ever considered that the Bulls were actually a solid defensive team. Also, don't then go on to say that Pippen was a great option at 21ppg when you discredit other players for scoring just below 20ppg. This take is so whack.
You keep quoting players' personal stats as if you understand what they mean in context but you clearly have no idea how the game used to be played e.g. claiming that John (the all time assist leader) Stockton only averaged 10ppg 🤦
Given that you mispronounced some of the players' names, it only further highlights your ignorance of the era.
Anyone can look at stats and jump to conclusions but if you actually watch the game (not just highlights and low lights) anyone will understand why Jordan is the GOAT. He didn't play against plumbers but he sure made them look that way.
Magic didnt announce it until after the finals 👀
Pippen averaged 20 as a SECOND option. Thats very good for a number 2 in that era. There's no excuse for a whole team to be averaging under 20ppg
My bad Grammar police.
If you watched the video I did compliment a lot of the players and how entertaining some of the series were. Doesn't mean all of them were great. Or that all of them were bad. EX Lebron coming back from 3-1 sensational/ Lebron and lakers beating injured heat team in the bubble not as impressive 🤷🏽♂️
@@BiasedNBATakes Magic announced it in November, it was discovered in pre-season testing. I can't find anything that suggests he knew this during the NBA finals.
Pippen only averaged 20ppg twice in the playoffs with MJ (without MJ he only managed 22ppg as well 🤷♂️).
I didn't mention grammar, perhaps you are referring to my comments about pronunciation? I am merely highlighting that you don't know these players.
@@BiasedNBATakesHIV did not affect Magic's performance. It does not work that way
It's funny to hear people who weren't there talk about the NBA and the time era when they weren't even alive yet. They watch a few clips and act like they know what the f*** they're talking about. Well young buck, you don't. But it's really not your fault it's just the way things are these days, boys are girls and girls are boys and the league is as soft as cottonelle tissue nowadays. The NBA product these days is inferior. Oh I can hear you young bucks now, "He doesn't know what he's talking about" is what you're thinking but all we have to do is look at the current NBA numbers and the viewership has fallen drastically over the years. And that's because flopping has become fashionable and playing defense is a thing of the past. Keep telling yourself that this is the better era but real basketball aficionados that know the game and understand the game of basketball
@Jordan…
They don’t care about reality/actuality.
This guy clearly doesn't know what defense is. Also this guy talking like Shawn Kemp doesn't exist. The guy average more points than Payton??? Did you even watch the game?
Jordan had a super team? Who was super on the team? Pippen??? Who else Horace I get out scored by Perkins, Worthy, and Divac, Grant? Or Paxson who also get out scored by them?
The Jazz?? You considered Jazz the better team match up out of all the teams the Bulls played in the finals. You smoking some real hard Cronic there. Outside of playing defense the only thing the Jazz had scoring was Malone. They weren't that deep compaired to Sonics, Phoenix, Blazers, and Lakers.
For the Jazz to get to the Finals on defanse alone shows you don't know, nor understand how hard it is to play basketball when someone is trying to tangle you up and keep you from getting the ball.
Go back to watching your Futbol flops basketball with the open 3 in the key paint no defense. Because you don't know what defense is. Heck do you even know what a mid range is? Because it's extinct in the NBA today.
You could talk bullshit all you want. Lebron could never come close to Jordan or even Kobe. Jordan is the true GOAT👍
Not even as good as #TimDuncan!!!
I see the gray/hate in your beard old man. Why don't you pop a viagra get up for this one. James made it the finals 10 times better than Jordan or kobe
Goes both ways bro you could try and talk all the bullshit killer mentality but Jordan was never coming close to lebron after 2016. Lebrons the true goat
Lebron passed Kobe years ago, Kobe wasn't even the best player for more than half of his rings
I dont know what is your criteria or proof that kobe is better than bron,all time stats, mvp, finals mvp, you are delusional, you are one of those stupid fans that gave KOBE so much credit after he died, bruh no one is talking kobe as better than bron when he still alive, he is good at top 10. and Lebron is better than OVERRATED MJ, Mj never been underdog in FINALS, and he couldnt do anything without pippen rodman and goat coach, when Mj retire, Bulls is still 55 winning team, dropp ing only 2 games without him, pippen leading the way, and when bron leaves the cavs the cavs is the 2nd worst team in the league, same as when he leave Miami.. dont be stupid.. Mj played in a weakASS era, NO COMPETITION, OVERRATED DEFENSE, TOUGH defense my ass..
your logic is flawed. why? nba final is not only series on a way to the ring. it is like disrespecting kobe&shaq because they met nets in finals. so, we have to disregard blazers, kings and all of those mega teams in west?
I hear you bro. But it would take a 2 hour video instead of 8 minutes to go through every series in a 6 year span lol. So I just focused on the finals
@@BiasedNBATakes you're a clown
Thank you for the love and support
MJ losing the goat debate?
In 2019, an NBA poll was conducted to active NBA players on who's the GOAT and Jordan got 73% votes over lebron. In 2018, 100 college coaches were surveyed on who's the GOAT and Jordan got 82% of the votes over lebron. In 2020, ESPN commissioned a poll on who's the GOAT and splitted it into two groups (18-34 yrs old and 35 yrs old and older). And still, jordan got majority of the votes at 73%. He even got 66% votes from the younger age group. In 2023 nba allstar weekend, Jordan got the loudest ovation from the crowd in lebron's city. His signature shoes is still the highest selling signature shoes among former and active nba players. Jordan has more individual and team awards than lebron and he did all those accomplishments in just 13 1/2 seasons (he missed 64 games in '85-86 due to injury and missed 65 games in '94-'95 for playing baseball). If he wanted to break Kareem's record, he would've not retire in '93 and '98 and was on pace to break it in just 17 seasons.
When he was losing to Bird and McHale's celtics dynasty team, jerry krause didnt recruit an allstar. Instead, he just gave jordan a couple of rookies as help for jordan to build his own dynasty team. He earned his respect and the GOAT title, unlike the other guy who call himself the GOAT and demanded respect after the bubble championship against a team whose top 3 players got injured in the very first game of the series.
Jordan never left a team to go play with other stars. He never said that he needs help.
The bulls brought stars to play with Jordan. The cavs didn’t do that lebrons first time there. Besides it’s a team sport. The best team wins
Lebron came in and was winning he didn’t get a bunch of 1st round picks
What that gotta do with this video
kobe bryant is the closest to michael jordan level 💯
Few things about 1991: #1 Magic found out about his HIV positive status in the pre season of the following year and had to retire immediately. Saying he somehow knew he had HIV in June of 1991 and was dealing with it mentally, is an incorrect take. Also the 1991 Lakers were favored in the series. They had championship experience, Magic was 1 year removed from being the MVP and the Bulls back then were looked at still as a young 1 man team. There was the belief back then that a 1 man team with the scoring champion had no chance to win an NBA title because it had never really happened in previous decades which were dominated by a more team oriented style of play. Also the league was still a big man league and a team that was running exclusively through a high volume shooting guard had no history of title success. Jordan bucked that trend that year by rewriting history to become the first regular season scoring champion to win a title in decades, and the first guard scoring champion to win the title in NBA history (Look it up). That 1991 team built around a lead scoring guard was emulated many years after and nobody had anywhere near the success until the 2009 Lakers with Kobe. 1 more thing about 1991: Byron Scott was the leading scorer of the 1988 championship Lakers team (21.7ppg on 53%), he was a good player, he had a horrible series, couldn't guard MJ or score on MJ and got injured in game 4. Maybe give some credit to Jordan for holding Scott to such bad numbers, Scott was 3 years removed from being the leading scorer of an NBA champion. The other years I could nitpick but overall they were solid takes. Your 1991 take was less than stellar though lol. Keep up the content though, peace.
exactly.
this video already starts with or a lie, or a straight up bad job.
Thanks bro. November is when he told the world. He may have knew or maybe he didn’t know but had it 🤷🏾♂️. I get what you’re saying tho. The Byron Scott thing yeah he stinked it up. 3 years can change a lot. Look at Kyle Lowry, Chris Paul, or Victor oladipo from 3 years ago. Looking back from the future lens some of these match ups look lopsided. But there were some entertaining series in the mix
@@gaverano it’s called a joke bro come on 💀you can’t tell?
@BiasedNBATakes Magic missed a games in the pre season in 1992 with what was called "the flu", then he had to retire from HIV. It would have been a huge global scandal back then if it was found out that he knowingly played with HIV in the 1991 finals. HIV back then was still being misinformed as a disease that you could get from hugging someone or ridiculous things like that. Less than a 1% chance he knew he had HIV in 1991 but who knows lol. Byron Scott in 1991 played all 82 games and was only 29, I think the 1991 Lakers it was more wear and tear from all the title runs, Scott, Worthy and Magic had won 3 titles together and lost finals as well. Worthy was injured in 1991 as well, which was probably a bigger advantage to the Bulls than Scott playing bad. Either way I don't think the Lakers could have won that series, Jordan and those guys were ready to die on the court for that 1st ring, they were starving wolves after losing to the pistons the previous 3 years. 1 thing about the 1992 Blazers though, that was a good team Buck Williams was a 3x all-star and all defensive team guy. Cliff Robinson made an all-star game and was one of the architects of what became latter era 3ND/ stretch bigs that shot 3s. Terry Porter made an all-star game, he could really shoot, was +40% from 3 in that era before teams were really letting PGs shoot volume 3s. The Bulls probably would have lost that 92 Finals if Jordan wasn't absolutely brilliant and so badly outplayed Drexler.
I should have checked the timing of the 91 finals vs. the HIV issue. I just assumed that he already knew about it since it was framed that way in the video. With Magic, Worthy, Scott, Divac, Perkins, Campbell, Green - 91 Lakers were no joke.
The 91 championship doesn't need an asterisk. That championship was earned. They smoked everybody they played against. It's not their fault ppl could stay healthy. Y'all gotta stop this nonsense of trying downplay an accomplishment. Magic had no problems getting that team to the Finals with a 58-24 record so that excuse is out. Magic didnt have HIV during the Finals to be aware of it in the first place. Yes the Lakers had injuries, that happens every year and if we're putting asterisk on championships because of injury then we might as well put asterisks on all of them. I can go down every year from last year to 1985 and name an injured player that could've effected the outcome of a championship run. The Bulls' time was 91 and they pounced. Just give credit to the Bulls for being dominant. The Trailblazers were a really good team that had a very good chance to stretch that Finals to 7. They were up 15 to start the 4th quarter of Game 6. The Bulls earned that win too. The Suns series was another one of those that could've gone to a 7. The Sonics were still great by the Finals and GP actually did guard Jordan more than what ppl wanna believe in the first three games. Jordan just smoked whatever defender they threw at him. The Jazz were great but Stockton struggled because he was constantly guarded by Scottie, MJ or Ron Harper. He was gonna struggle. Just give credit where it's due. There was nothing wrong with the comp.
@@Widkey I didn’t mention LeBron in this entire video. Why would I talk about the Miami heat team in a video about Jordan?
@@Widkey I’m a LeBron guy but im not going to tell you that you’re wrong for saying Jordan is the goat. That makes sense. It’s a very valid opinion. Idk why people on either side make it so personal 🤷🏾♂️
@@BiasedNBATakes I do respect your opinion and how you gave it. It didn't sound like you were trolling and that I respect.
@@ShaadsComicsandBeers I appreciate that bro. 🤝🏾
This shows how bad the nba is now currently… we are in the middle of the season and people would rather discuss past decades… That’s tough
This conversation has been ongoing for the past 21 seasons. Kyle Kuzma would be a hall of famer in the 80s/90s
Why don't you go back and watch those games. . . Look at how stiff and unathletic the games was
Should be done with this generations basketball stat padding, flopping Ben Simons, in-season payout to play harder, play-in giving the undeserving a chance. Let’s not start with the all star game and dunk contest guys are afraid to compete.
Actually this is a great idea for a video
@@BiasedNBATakes no bra. Just stop with the videos. It's not your thing. Find something else to do
I went from 0 to 1100 subscribers in 8 months. No thanks I'm going to do my own thing
@@BiasedNBATakes so there are 1100 people with nothing better to do. Quality over quantity, hopefully you'll learn this
clown video 😅😂😂 lebron james is not 1 nu
The best part of this video id that it made me realized that in 30 years we will be saying "We done with the 20's!!!!!!"
"LeBron played against streamers and podcasters" 🤣
It's already done with viewership ratings 🤣
Lebron james is not the closest to michael jordan level
90s Forever
Sorry it's easy to debunk Lebron fanatics nor hater of MJ throwing stupid comments and stats wont help anyways enjoiy
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Click bait
How?
OK, let's say the vid convinced me that MJ is NOT the GOAT......There is nothing in the vid that showed me Lebum is worthy as being the GOAT.
Just a thumbnail. I just wanted to talk about Jordan’s finals. I said at the end I understand the argument for him being the goat. Jordan being the goat is a very valid opinion. Lebron being the goat is also a very valid opinion. It’s subjective
@@BiasedNBATakesit s not subjective there is more things that made the title of goat towards mj than Lebron
Win by an inch or a mile winnings winning. Cant touch Jordan 😂
After watching the video, I still think MJ is the best NBA player of all time by a lot.
A few thoughts on the video:
1) Agree with your take on 91 Magic, that had to really be a tough time for him and had to impact his ability to play. However, although they no longer had Kareem, this team still had Worthy and Divac (Both HOF - you said at 7:40 that only the Jazz had 2 HOF players of all the Jordan Finals opponents). Given the circumstances with Magic, I agree that this was probably Jordan's easiest opponent in the Finals, but no one was beating 91 MJ on that Bulls team. Just look at how they dusted all the other teams in the Playoffs that year including sweeping the reigning back-to-back Champion Pistons.
2) I could make the argument that Byron Scott having a terrible Finals should be credit to MJ and what a great defensive player he is.
3) I think you are selling the 92 Blazers supporting cast really short. They didn't have any "superstars" other than Drexler, but they were a really balanced team and had made the Conference Finals for 3 straight years and the Finals 2 times in 3 years.
4) Dan Majerle is pronounced "Dan Marley" like Bob Marley.
5) While I disagree with the general idea that Jordan faced weak teams in the Finals, I think solely focusing on the Finals opponents doesn't do his 90's run justice. The East was loaded in the 90's, and the fact that starting in 90-91 he only lost one series in the whole decade to that stacked Magic team after being out of basketball until a month before the playoffs is wild. Then he comes back the next year, wins 72 games, sweeps that team, and starts another 3 peat. Insane.
1) oversight on my part. I appreciate you pointing that out
2) idk those had to be clamps of GOD to be that bad lol
To your last point yeah I just wanted to focus on the finals. The most information is usually available for finals match ups. But I enjoyed a lot of these series. I’m 25 this was my first time seeing full Jordan playoff series. Was the comp bad or was Jordan way too good for his competition? Maybe a little of both is the right answer 👀
Just watch the "Michael Jordan Voyager" highlight reel. People need to be reminded that NO ONE approaches him.
Top comment has more than double the likes of the video itself. Anyone can tell this man is just saying bs for the sake of getting views 💀
Motion is motion 🤷🏾♂️
He is not losing the debate.
Who do'all think is not GOAT fake🤔🤨 Espn jokes lebron james?😅
Bruh! I don't normally comment on videos but there is so much misinformation in the video I'm not going to justify talking through all of it. Not to mention, that you give no credit to the Bulls defense. The reason the other teams did not play as well is that their defense was that business. How do I know this. They won championships!
That’s a lie. You didn’t watch the video. Because I specifically talked about mj and pippens defense
LeBron fans are a special type of pronoun.
Lethey and Lethems.
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Michael Jordan is the unanimous goat It really isn't remotely close.
Black Jesus wouldn't be losing the GOAT debate if Monistat Masculinity WOULDN'T have had a Chernobyl reactors size meltdown in 2011 NBA Finals when a low-fueled jet outplayed him and a teammate (Eddie House) said he quit in a multitude of games. His Airness wouldn't be losing the GOAT debate if Massengill Mentality WOULDN'T have quit in not one, not two, not three, not four..... games in 2010 playoffs vs Boston per Cavs owner (Dan Gilbert). Celtics players confirmed it by saying they "broke" Bron. No need to even mention last year's WCF when Mrs. Parker in Daisy Dukes did Houdini disappearing acts in all FOUR 4th quarters of winnable games. Queen Diva's resume is as blemished as Monica Lewinksy's blue dress after she stroked on Clinton's bill.
*Jordan isnt losing the GOAT debate. And if he is, it isn't to Lebron.* Too many people today just plain dont like Lebron. Infact, Jokic and Luka is already performing better than Prime Lebron according to numbers.
And 2000s Kobe is still better than Lebron. I'm tired of Lebron. He isnt even that good from what I can tell. IMO Candace Parker can beat Lebron 1 on 1
Except MJ is winning tbe GOAT debate
Bruh this is as casual of an analysis as I’ve seen. Someone tell this dude to never break down basketball again. 😂
He said no one averaged over 20 while showing a well balanced offense with 4 double digit scorers.
funny video, you're a real comedian
Magic literally said he was in the best shape of his life during the 92 dream team after he had HIV. HIV doesn't affect athleticism whatsoever
He retired because of his HIV right? We talking about 91 not 92 what he says doesn't matter. Jaylen brown said the Celtics winning 6 straight doesn't make it true💀
@@BiasedNBATakesWhat Magic says doesnt matter but what you say matter? Brittney Griner already confirmed she can beat Lebron 1 on 1. Thats a better official source than you
@@BiasedNBATakes Magic retired in November of 91, not June of 91, plus he retored because players did not want to play with him, not because he could not.
Yall dont know what HIV is huh?
@@BiasedNBATakes It's literally nothing until it becomes AIDS genius. It's a dormant disease that does nothing
This is a horrendous take. You can discredit just about any finals series if you use this level of mental gymnastics.
You Jordan meat riders can’t hear anything bad about Jordan. I said I enjoyed 3 out of the 6 series and talked about how great Jordan was and how he has every argument for the goat. But when I say he beat a 1 legged hiv magic y’all get pissy. It’s the truth 🤷🏾♂️
LOL wake me up when someone gets 2 3-peats.
Never going to happen. The league is too talented and competitive now. No ones even won back to back in the last 7 years. Not since 2017
How the hell am I gonna believe a 15 year old
Done with the 90's - Some of LeBron peers aka this generation of nba players voted MJ as goat over him. So clearly they not done with the 90's 🤣
Lebron james wins playoff losses 💀101?!!!!! ___________losses 6?!!!!! Finals!!!!! __________😅😅😅😅😅😂2011 Finals points 8?!!!!! Losses is not GOAT? King? sweep 3?!!!!!! finals losses 33?!!!!!
if mj played against plumber. and the players have not studied what the players are playing against
There were no plumbers in that era stupid
Lmao Jordan isn't losing in this debate, look how many ppl winning chips on LeBalco's watch lmao Even w Super team, No defense, stat padding and PEDs he still don't got a dog in the race for the Goat debate. Only thing ppl fear about playing against him is the refs 😅
1988 Magic won, Isiah thomas beat jordan back to back 1989 and 1990, when jordan came back in 1995 shaq beat him and hakeem won the championship, Lakers won in 2001 and 2002
You young heads are literally the “r” word when it comes to understanding anything about basketball…ok, r-word may be a little harsh, but Dan Mar-gel? You don’t even know who Dan Mar-Lee is. But this is for real one of the most cherry picked every small irrelevant thing that gave MJ advantage to discredit him. Like that some games were close soooo if they woulda made that shot Bulls might not have won (ignoring the fact Jordan NEVER faced an elimination game in the finals and 2 of Lebron’s finals were literally saved by Ray and Kyrie FACING elimination. And one was AFTER Lebron bricked the first shot, and if Bosh didn’t make a great rebound AND Ray didn’t hit the most clutch shot ever, Lebron wouldn’t even have one repeat…MJ has TWO 3PEATs, but let’s pretend HE’s the one who lucky. This is truly one of the dumbest TH-cam videos I’ve ever seen
I didn’t pick at all his championships? Did you watch the video? I also said nothing about LeBron the whole video
@@BiasedNBATakes well considering the video is titled “Why Michael Jordan is losing the goat debate” with a 2 next to his name a 1 next to Lebron’s, I don’t know why you wouldn’t expect ppl to assume that is the hypothesis you are looking to prove. And not picking every single championship is beside the point, you’re nitpicking at specific championships to try and discredit the man’s 3peats. But without mentioning how much more difficult it gets to repeat, and how exponentially harder it is to repeat twice in a row. Which this man did not once, but twice, and with ENTIRELY different rosters sans just 1 player. And I’m a lifelong Cavs fan, I spent almost my entire adult life rooting for Lebron. Watching every sec of those playoff runs. And the amount of picking I could go through at Lebron’s “greatest” accomplishments to discredit them could be a 5hr video. I.e. how bad Lebron in the 2007 finals run, played 20 games and was GREAT in 6, and was BAD in 14 of those games. I’m talking 19ppg on 36% shooting in 14 out of 20 games yet everyone claims Lebron single handily carried the worst team ever to the finals. Which is way more damning than anything I heard to discredit MJ’s accomplishments in this video
Why are you talking about LeBron? I didn’t mention LeBron once lol. And I never said anything about Jordan’s skill or talent. If you watched the video I talked about how good he was and how entertaining these series were. His competition just wasn’t great for a few of those rings 🤷🏾♂️
Weren't players after 70's full time in basketball because of idk their contracts. But let's entertain the fact they were plumbers, shouldn't matter if your game is doing the talking. What did the plumbers have secret contacts in the NBA draft to rig it for all these so solid hoopers were left on the streets for like 30 odd years. The math isn't mathing.
The plumber thing was a joke. But over all the league back then was immensely less talented. That’s just how progress works
I didn't actually watch this video but wanted to state that if we are still having a debate then lbj has been a loser this WHOLE time....... 😢
Video isn’t about LeBron.
There is not a debate really on bronturds think so!
the amount of hypocrisy is hilarious
Which part 👀
LEFLOP IS AGOAT
It’s Lebron who doesn’t come close to the GOAT debate 😂 Literally every poll, he gets destroyed and rightfully so. He’s a fraud who cost his teams multiple chips, shoots 21-115 in GW shots, 38% beyond 3 feet, more all star help than anyone in history, flops, walks out on teammates, lies and is a half ass defender who chooses when to play defense, which is why he hasn’t won any defensive awards in 10 years
Why did you lie?
Jordan is an adult. He won't even say he isnthe GOAT, and he says it depends on the era.
Have no clue what you’re talking about. No one thinks Kareem was a part of the ‘91 Lakers. They were the pre-season favorites to win the Chip that year. Magic was an All-Star averaging his career numbers.
👆🏾 See how old heads try to rewrite history. No. The bulls were the favorite that year. Then the trailblazers were second. Then the lakers were 3rd in odds
No, they weren’t. The preseason betting didn’t have the Bulls winning the Chip.
1991-92 NBA Preseason Odds
Team Odds
Chicago Bulls +250
Portland Trail Blazers +400
Los Angeles Lakers +600
San Antonio Spurs +800
1991 Come on. Keep up! We’re talking about the Lakers. You don’t know what you’re talking about.
@@craigsimmons5949 1990-1991 pistons were favorites +350. You making stuff up
I'm glad I was there so I don't fall for the BS!!!
You think I’m trying to trick you? 😂
#WeAreDoneWithYouGenZBrats
Didn’t even get two minutes into the video. Kareem retired; solid point. HIV diagnosis made Magic a worse player 🤦🏽♂️🤦🏽♂️🤦🏽♂️
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Magic didn’t test positive until the following pre-season. He was runner-up to MJ for MVP in 91, after winning MVP the previous 2 seasons. Magic was still in his prime. The Lakers were slowed by injuries, notably to James Worthy, but Chicago wasn’t gonna be denied that season by anyone but maybe Portland. After losing the 90 Finals to Detroit, the Blazers looked to be on an easy march back to the Finals, but Magic was Magic in the WCF.
@@BiasedNBATakes 🤦🏽♂️🤦🏽♂️🤦🏽♂️
@@bigraj337 magic didn’t announce he had it until that press conference. It takes 6 months to a year for symptoms to even show up. The very next time he was due for testing it popped up. He probably been had it 🤷🏾♂️. You talking about 3 years ago 2 years ago. It don’t matter. We talking about 1991.
lol @ the Magic slander. Dude is still alive to this day, so acting like he was on his last legs at a time when he just found out he had HIV is crazy. Sure, he did get injured, but that didn't stop him from putting up great numbers, so I'm not sure why you're acting like he was hobbled during that series. Players played injured and sick all the time, and every championship run has incidents where teams are helped by things they didn't necessarily do. The same people that will knock MJ for shit like this will say Lebron's win over the Warriors was the greatest championship in history even though Steph was injured during that series and Draymond was suspended for the most important game of the series.
Yeah bro I get it. Like I said in the video I’m not big on the asterisk thing. You can only play who in front of you. If I were to compare it to a LeBron ring it would be more like beating that injured heat team in the bubble. Draymond getting suspended is on him. He got no respect for other players
@@BiasedNBATakes I can't agree with that. The Heat were pretty much regarded as the weakest team to ever make it to the Finals. The Lakers weren't that bad in 91. They weren't a great team, but the Bulls wasn't a great team either. They just had MJ.
@@Celestial_Souljah exactly and MJ was playing competition way below his skill level. Averaging 30-40 points for a series against a team that doesn’t have a single guy scoring 20. That’s not good competition
@@BiasedNBATakes What does the other team's scoring output have to do with MJ's scoring. The defense is what matters in that regard, and they still played defense back then. MJ wasn't getting a ton of easy points in that series. Like I said before, when Lebron beat the Warriors, the team's best player was injured and the team's playmaker was out for the pivotal game. You can bash MJ's series against the Lakers if you want. Just be consistent and do the same for Lebron.
@Celestial_Souljah this video wasn’t about LeBron. I made a whole video about how the LeBron lakers era failed last week.
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This video been linked in my comments like 10 times 💀 y’all fighting for y’all lives
Clearly you not putting 90s defense vs today's
MJ is the GOAT
LeChump shouldn't even mention Jordan's name. LeChump can scrap the s.h.i.t. of Jordan's and Kobe's shoe. Matter of fact rest of N.B.A. also. LeFlop,LeQuit LeJoke right goat status... BILLY GOAT...bahhh
i'm not even going to waste my time talking about basketball eith someone who doesn't know jack, just to let you know
i stopped watching when you mentioned that michael jirdan was playing against plumers
yeah magic was a plumer
clyde drexler
charles barkley
john stockton who holds the all time record in assist deparment
karl malone was is 3rd all time in the scoring list, untill recently he was num 2
all these players played when the league was balance and had defense, we had hand check and a lot of rules that balance the game ehich it made the game more dificult and also fun to watch
but if you think that your going to change someone's mind with your fail arguments you sadly mistaken
today's nba favor scoring
the defense had been remove
lower down to help avg players look more like super stars but we all inow what will happen if the league decides to increase the defense, that will expose all the scrubs that tbe league been trying to push as the best
winner head commisioner has been spoon fed all his boyfriends
jordan did more at a higer and more dificult level while lebron has failed many times over and over again even having an easier softer excuse of a league
why you think we have all those high scoring games, trust me is not because they are that good, we all know why, no defense, let's just shoot from 3 and flop
if lebron was really that good the he would it won at least 8 rings by now and even we know that he did it because the keague is softer, he couldn't do it anyway
that right there tells you the diference
even if lebron wind 2 more rings
that i doubt very much that is going to happen, he will be something like
12-6-6 in the finals
meaning that he had to go to the finals twice as much to win what jordan won in less
with a perfect 6-6 and ket not forget the 6 finals mvp
you can try to descredit the 90's all you want but tell me what you think a prime shaq will do to this league
robinson, olajuwon
etc etc etc
today's league is a freaking joke full of softies
only some one who doesn't know about basketball will not know or notice wth is going on
btw why you think the league invented the disgraceful play in tournament?
to helpyour hero lequeen
who needs all the help he can get from the league and the corrupted referees
the lakers always get at least twice as more free throw that the other team
i wonder why
90's basketball was a real man sport
today your scrubs heroes do not have that mentallity about playing hard thought defense, ever since tbe wnba the nba is slowly turning into a wnba
soon we will have woman coaching in the nba, i love basketball but the game has been in decline ever since the league started destroying the game since the 2000's
sorry for the typos but i don't have time
michael jordan don't gave a left hand
cherry pucki g videos when he had an injury in his hand to try to make him look bad
i guess you lebron ass kisser has never seen one of the most iconic moves in nba funals history when jordan switched hands in mid air, he started with the right hand and finished with the left and he doesn't have a left hand
gtfoh
I can tell by your first sentence you ain’t watch the video. I gave a lot of the 90s guys flowers including Jordan. Finish the video then come back. I also never mentioned LeBron in the video
Here's one of them plumbers trying very hard to tutor cadaver-like footwork, I mean King Flop on footwork. Hakeem is an AARP member by this time and he's still more agile and fluid than Queen Diva. th-cam.com/video/bwKwiftfVmA/w-d-xo.html
1 name is kryptonite here, and takes care of this stupid bullshit "debate".... Jason Terry.
💀💀💀Jason terry destroyed Lebron’s legacy?
@@BiasedNBATakes Fuck LeBron's "legacy" it's stats vs. letting 6'2" 185lb guard on the back end of his career smoke your ass for a title while your in your prime. And give him one of his 6 and biggest L in title games.
@@BiasedNBATakes YES, Between Terry and Shaun Marion taking LeBron apart in a title game when the best rise up, his inability to either get/take any clutch shots or play defense at the level he was claimed to be able to play while getting trash talked the whole series by these guys he crumbled like the fake he is. Now he's a league protected stat padder getting by with armbars and travelling, and it's sad anyone protects this garbage, or even worse dares to call him better than Jordan/Kobe/Bird/Magic. He's the GOAT for those that yank it to stats in the fantasy sports era, not those that can see the obvious difference.
I mean statistically Lebron is the most clutch player in history. 52% Lebron. 47% Jordan. Kobe 23%. Measured by game tying or go ahead shots with 30 seconds or less left in the game
@@BiasedNBATakes And Ray Allen or Kyrie takes the final shot because Lebron has no bag. Don't tell me you wouldn't want Jordan to have the ball on a final shot over Lebron with 10 seconds left in a game 7.
If MJ wouldn't have Nike's marketing, he'd be a normal guy... Good player, but not a "goat".
There was never a debate, Michael Jordan is still the GOAT, Lebron failed to surpass him.
He's not losing the debate, prime Jokic beats prime LeBron. LeBron isn't even in the debate anymore
😕you not even being serious bro. Lock in
@@BiasedNBATakes I spoke the truth, the ball don't lie. LeBron's only the king of longevity
This is one pf the worst, unanalytical takes I ever heard.
LOL, no. Sorry, even Nick "why yes I would blow LeBron" Wright's best spun argument doesn't hold up under even a cursory examination.
Dreamer bro, Jordan is the goat of basketball. LeBron is the goat of Mr Olympia.
Nba 2020 sleep Jokes🥱🥱😂
lol we are done with the 2020s, “ I learned how to flop” Lebron legacy,
The we done with the 20s gonna be nasty bro 😂 “Bron was playing podcasters”
@@BiasedNBATakes go on bro, if you continue to say you’re done with the 90s and 80s then go to every team’s homecourt and take down the 90s and 80s championship banners. Let’s see how many banners left for your favorite flop team.
@@bokjrincanada7891 it ain’t that deep twin. Learn to laugh
@@BiasedNBATakes nope, take down those 80s and 90s banners if you’re done with them, cause that’s what gen z protesting for. They have head with less brains,
Who said Mike's losing the goat debate?...You?...Who are you?...lol
Probably someone who has only touched a basketball at his local Peter Piper's Pizza arcade. Someone who has played at the highest level, is a top 10 center all-time and who's opinion is a lot more meaningful (Hakeem) said when asked about Bron and MJ "Jordan is a far more superior player and in a tougher league." The Dream knows b-ball like Bo knew Nike cross-trainers.
Jordan was a glorified jaylen brown?!?? Maann gtfohh
It made you giggle💀
Dan Mar "Gel"...??? its pronounced Mar-lee
Why did i waste time watching this! This take is bad, sorry. The tiktok generation is crazy af.
What did I say that was crazy?
I really wanted to watch this to hear someone else perspective, but had to stop the video within 60 seconds after the misinformation about Magic.
What misinformation?
Lol Jordan will never lose the Goat Debate. 6-0 all that matters
What about the other 9 years of first and second round exits?
@@BiasedNBATakes what about them?
@@BiasedNBATakes it's called growing and learning to be a champion and he went 6 times and won all of them plus 6 finals mvps.
So should LeBron only have gone 4 times and get bounced in the first round the other 6 instead? That's the logic you using
@@BiasedNBATakes no its simple math 6 and 0 in the finals... 4 and 6 in the finals. Jordan didn't run to to join players.. they came to him. It's that simple
The players today are getting torched by European players. They can't even get bronze in the FIBA. This is the worst era of nba, by far. Almost all the legends and best players of all time come from the 90s. The whole trend is because bronsexuals have lost this debate. The 2011 finals alone takes lebron out of the top 5, and now that we know he's on peds, he's out of the top 10.
There’s no way you think basketball players have gotten worse since the 80s/90s. Luka would average 60 in the 90s
@BiasedNBATakes Every fan knows that the rules have changed to favor offense now, to the point where nba leadership have been holding meetings on how to fix it. Nba viewership is at an all-time low because defense is non-existent and players are allowed to carry and travel as much as they want. Even lebron said in an interview that players today can't play. Like I said, the European players are dominating now, but they didn't in the 90s. Luka has admitted that it's so easy to score now in the nba compared to the European league. Like I said the players today can't even win bronze in the fiba games. Ots pathetic. Everyone has been done with the 2020s because the viewership is down. We are witnessing the worst era yet, and Luka wouldn't even be an nba player in the 90s. The guy can't even dunk lol
Always thought this. Jordan was miles ahead of his competition because a lot of them were bums relative to today's players.
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wahahaha lots of bullcrap, Why everybody wants to play the game is because of the ring, not who's has the most scoring wahahaha bullshit logic. Jordan does not have the privilege to build his own super team unlike Leflop.
I take Jordan as the GOAT simply because it means Lebron isn't. The GOAT could be Kobe. Or Jokic. Maybe even Luka. Just not Lenron. Lebron is not top 20.
Stop hating on mj
Mango
Thanks for demonstrating your ignorance
Thank you for watching and leaving a comment 🤝🏾🫶🏾
Some of these old timers with no touch on reality would never look at this. But its true, also the nba those days didn't allow zone defenses or double teams basically all mj had to do is play 1 on 1 then to the rim.
Valid criticism
All of the teams at the time had to play by the same rules. I don't think what Jordan accomplished with the Bulls in terms of winning Championships should be diminished based on what the rules were in that era that everyone had to play by.
@@tconboy23 I don’t think it diminishes it. Just puts more context on it. Cause a lot of people talk like it was 3 guys swarming Jordan every play. Still a tremendous player you right. Everyone had the same rules.
🤦 are you sure they didn't allow double teams? 'All MJ had to do is play 1-on-1 then to the rim' - what about hand checking?
In the modern game: what about travel calls and what about palming the ball? The rules were different back then and so was the officiating but to make out like Jordan had it easy is such an ignorant take. Just look at what he had to do against the Pistons - they were literally clotheslining him, shoving him out of the air, tripping him up etc. and often getting away with it! I have no doubt that if Jordan played with the modern traveling and palming rules and no hand checking, he would make it look just as easy as he did back then...
@@JordanHowlett Fouling does not equal good defense. Yeah they did all that to him and in the 22 play off games jordan played vs the pistons he shot 234 FTs. If he shot no free throws or way less then I would understand your point more
This video is a joke and poorly fact checked.
Jordan or LeBron?
What about Kobe? I'm not saying because of that incident so he have to be the goat but i really think that he deserve to be in the goat debate.
@@gpogaming1809 I don’t think it’s crazy to say that. Kobe was great. For me he’s not in that conversation. But he is the closest person to be considered on Brons and Jordan’s level to me. If that makes sense
LeBron has never even been the best player in any of his 'eras' when he was in Cleveland for the first time it was Kobe. When he went to Miami he was bested by Dirk (and don't forget Jason Terry 🤣) and the Spurs and saved by Ray Allen. When he went back to Cleveland he was owned by Curry. And since he has been on the Lakers he is basically irrelevant, Jokic is the man, although some in the media would have you believe he is still one of the best players in the league! How can you be considered the GOAT if you have never really been the greatest player for any significant period of time, only really good or the second best player. I used to have LeBron as 2nd all time but the longer his career goes on, the more I realise how he doesn't actually stack up against the other greats - he is not the greatest winner of even his own era, he was never the greatest shooter of even his own team, he was never the greatest defender of his era, he had so many epic failures and he is a serial flopper. How he is anyone's GOAT is crazy to me. I don't even know if he cracks my top 10 now. His longevity is his greatest accomplishment but then hold him up with Karl Malone, Russell Westbrook, Dirk, Hakeem, Stockton, Jason Kidd and Moses Malone - great players who played a long time but never considered the greatest...
LeFraud is not in the top 20. Cut that bs.
@@rankarat not top 20 crazy lol. I understand not 1. But 20?!!?!
your goat doesn't even know how to read
Who? The only person this video mentions is Jordan wym
Stupid take😂😅
Lol whatever😂😂😂
MJ ain’t losing anything lol
No matter how much you soft era babies try. Jordan is not dethroned. Lebum chasing stats 😅😅and still behind Jordan's shadow'
RIIGGHHTT?? LOSING THE GOAT DEBATE.. LOL
Michael jordan and kobe, goat debate. Jordan is still the goat. Oh, you are done with the 90's. Well don't run your mouths about sports players, you know nothing about. And if you are done with the 90's, then bye felicia.
You didn’t finish the video?