Wilt Chamberlain vs Kareem Abdul-Jabbar | The Rivalry of NBA Gods
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Great video, Wilt says what we’re all thinking “I also would’ve loved to have a chance to play against Kareem when I was scoring 50 points a game.” Give me prime Wilt over any big, or player to have ever played the game.
@David Mutchler hell yes. Wilt was one of the best defenders in NBA History, one of the best scorers of all time and he led the nba in assists
@David Mutchler smh he's stronger, faster, and has a higher vertical
@David Mutchler early 1960s wilt would 🚫Shaquille hook shot,
Early 1960s wilt unstoppable in the paint area around the basket 🧺, wilt would 🚫block jabbar skyhook like a roadblock
@David Mutchler he still would baby shaq since Wilt is one of the most athletic players ever (speed, vertical & strengh)
I bet they would had never imagined that both their Jerseys would be in the Lakers rosters together forever. Legendary
It is a testament to Wilt's athleticism, basketball savvy and talent that he spotted his "peer" an entire decade in career years and still pushed Jabbar to his competitive limits.
Absolutely.
Wilt Chamberlain blocks the skyhook
He was incredible
Only a God can block that shot
Wilt know the air out the jabber skyhook;; wilt put/ block🚫. jabber skyhook shot into trash 🗑 can
That was wilt after the knee injury if wilt never got the knee injury he would have depleted that shot.
Block the “unblock shot”
Look closely...Goaltending....
Kareem came into the league in 1969/70. Wilt suffered a major injury in 1969/70 and only played 12 regular season games. He came back from injury too early and it hampered his play but he still averaged 47 minutes a game during the playoffs and 22 points and 22 rebounds a game. Kareem's 3 best years; 71,72,73, were statistically Wilt's 3 worst years. Even still during those 3 years, Kareem won a championship and so did Wilt.
I thought that from 1971-73 Wilt basically played Kareem to a draw overall, even though his scoring numbers were far below Kareem’s. Remember, Wilt was like the 4th option on offense for the Lakers, while Kareem was expected to score 30 points a game for the Bucks. He was their main man on offense. Wilt was not. Wilt still outplayed Kareem on the boards and as a rim protector.
@@frederickrapp5396 I was born in 1963 and started watching the NBA in 1971. The Milwaukee Bucks were my favorite team even though I lived in Washington state. You're right about Wilt in those last few years. He was basically the third option with Jimmy McMillian also being the third option, both McMillian and Chamberlain could score 20-30 points if needed. Wilt could have been a more go to option offensively but Jerry West and Gail Goodrich would both average 25 plus points during the 1971-72 season. Between 1970-71 through 1972-73, the Bucks and the Lakers were the most dominate teams. Unfortunately, they both played in the Western Conference, so they could never play each other in the finals. To me, the NBA was at it's best in the early 70s. The Knicks, Celtics, and Bullets in the East with the Lakers, Bucks, and a bunch of other teams that were very good in the West like Golden State, the Bulls, and the Suns. Wilt was even in those last few years still a great rebounder, shot blocker, and a great passer (distributer). Those were the days....sure do miss them.
@@tommurphy2746 Do you remember the game on Sunday 1-9-72 when the Bucks ended the Lakers 33 game winning streak? I remember watching this game on the NBA game of the week on ABC. True story: Lakers were not highly regarded at start of season by most experts. Bucks, Knicks, Celtics, were all considered much superior to Lakers. Baylor retired early in season. When Lakers started season at 6-3, I looked at their roster and said: “This team is loaded. They should win the NBA title. Macmillan will take over at small forward, and Baylor won’t be missed.” I did a player-player comparison with the world champion Bucks. Wilt-Kareem: even. West-Robertson: even. Dandridge-Macmillan: even. Goodrich-McGlocklin: slight edge Goodrich, Hairston-Perry: slight edge Hairston, Bench: slight edge Lakers, Coach: Sharman-Costello: even. I never thought Lakers would win 33 games in a row. But even when they started at 6-3, I thought they were slightly better than World Champion Bucks. And I was proven correct!
@@frederickrapp5396 Yeah, I remember that epic, nationally televised game on 1-9-72. That was one of my favorite all-time games. That 33-game winning streak was incredible. I still have a 20th year anniversary Sports Illustrated commemorative issue honoring that winning streak. It has a summary to every one of the 33 games and the score and the leading scorers. The Lakers averaged 125 points per game during that streak if I remember correctly. In fact, most of the 33 games were not even close, the Lakers were dominating during that streak. Wilt said that most streaks are usually predicated on some luck being involved. But like he said, there were only a few close games during that streak. The Lakers were 39-3 and the Bucks were I believe 36-5 coming into that epic matchup. That game was uploaded on TH-cam. I've rewatched it. I think the Bucks pulled away at the end and won 120-104. Ironically, the Bucks had a 20 game winning streak the year before. Also, during the same time the Lakers were on their 33 game winning streak, John Wooden's U.C.L.A. Bruins were in the midst of the longest men's college basketball winning streak of all-time wich would end up being an 88 game winning streak. They finally lost to Notre Dame on national television when they blew a late lead. What's so interesting about the Lakers and U.C.L.A Bruins winning streaks is that the Lakers 33 game winning streak is the longest in pro sports history and still stands to this day, and the Bruins winning 88 game winning streak also stands to this day, and I don't think neither will ever be broken. What's fascinating about those two streaks is they were going on at the same time and in the same city of L.A.. What are the odds of that happening. Those were the good old days, sports were so much fun to watch back then. It's just not the same anymore. The NBA game today is so boring to watch....teams do nothing but shoot 3 pointers the whole game with 3 or 4 players standing behind the 3 point line waiting to hoist up another three. No low post game or midrange shots anymore. The old NBA was a much better game. I sure do miss those days.
@@tommurphy2746 Hey Tom, who is your Goat? Curious of your answer.
I love seeing Wilt hit all the hook shots at the end. That guy was a monster athlete. He would dominate any of today's players. Kareem would also do exceedingly well today because he took his height and made an unstoppable force out of himself with the Sky Hook. Impossible to defend in any era. These guys were beasts.
Tacko Fall would block the shit out of Kareem Sky Hook lol
I guess you'll never know. For now he aint blocking it until someone masters the sky hook.
@@Anthonydu01630 he gotta get some minutes before he's blocking anyone lmao
@@Anthonydu01630 Kareem would drop a 50 piece on Tacko Kufi lol.
@@Anthonydu01630 no he wouldn't. Tacko can't jump for shit 😂
Prime Wilt was the most unstoppable force on both ends ever, a demigod who happened to play basketball.
Even tho he was a speciman like no other in the last 100 years, he unfortunately still had injuries tearing him down and ultimately dying too soon :/
Its still hard to fathom that someone like him existed and still died prematurely despite these amazing physical traits he had
Unfortunately, Wilt took a hard elbow to his jaw and teeth in the 60s. Wilt knocked the dude out with a jab but the damage was done and he had teeth issues for the rest of his life. Wilt had a root canal that went bad and he died about a year later.
@@jingqi9106 not many know about that, so im quite impressed you brought it up
@@thejigochigo5316 Oh yeah, I've been watching and following hoop a long time. lol
@@jingqi9106 What’s worse is that it was never taken care of properly especially when the medical methods back then weren’t as advanced.
@@paradoxsweeps396 Exactly
It’s literally like mythology...like two gods battling for dominion over the court
I saw them both play several times. My nod is to WIlt as he had the complete game for a center. He ran well, more athletic, better stamina, better passer, better rebounder, better career ppg and rpg. The game changed more because of him vs Kareem (not to take away how great a player Kareem was). And if Wilt had a hook-shot in his repertoire, there would be no debate.
He also never fouled out of a game
Kareem : he was my hero
For all the Wilt haters
❤ wilt, black superman 🦸♂️
Wilt was Zeus. God of all the basketball gods
@@quisetoberry8430 🤣🤣🤣🤣BOISTOP
@@quisetoberry8430 Wilt called himself Goliath, no one rooted for him always against him, wilt was something we will never see again, people talk about his strength and he wasn’t even a power player not in the Shaq context
He was heroic to Kareem. No doubt. But anybody who knows Kareem knows that that Bill Russell was his #1 hero. Period
Wow. This is the best remix of Wilt/Kareem quotes and highlights I have ever watched.
Thank you as I can never get enough of them. Great job.
Hearing everyone enjoy the video makes all the effort put into the video worthwhile. Thank you for the comment.
@@FoobasSports - You crushed it. Even though I've watched most everything out there on Wilt, I found myself thoroughly enjoying your video. You set the bar high. I think Wilt and Kareem would even approve.
Best wishes.
@@ShinetheLightofTruth I really appreciate that, thank you 👍
@@FoobasSports My friend, you came close to level of WCA's video editing&story telling skills...as far as mortals are able to do... :)
@@FoobasSports Love your work! Couple ideas...."Connie Hawkins" "Big Mo"
I miss seeing Wilt in interviews and on t.v. I always thought he was really intelligent, well spoken and interesting.
Miss you dude. RIP 🙏
This has to be the most unknown rivalry ever, and its an actual pure rivalry too, not just two really good basketball players who are great friends playing against each other
Absolutely. Bird and Magic was a 'rivalry' because they were complete opposites of each other. Perfect marketing. In reality, they were just the two best players in the league. But they didn't play the same position and battle each other every possession. Chamberlain had to go through Bill Russell and KAJ to win rings. Players in the same position.
Michael and Kobe would have been the best comparison to Wilt and Kareem. But Kobe never faced Michael in the play-offs. Would have been great to see those guys compete on that level.
@@FoobasSports Lebron vs Durant (And Pierce) is another great one.
Along with Moses vs KAJ. Magic Vs Zeke
Unknown?
You’ve got to be either kidding or 11 years old.
I grew up knowing about this rivalry along with Bird and Magic's.
I'm sure any fan near 50 and up would say the same.
@@joaquinalexander9 Those of us 60 and up, remember Chamberlain vs Russell, and then Chamberlain vs Alcindor/Jabbar. Still don't understand how anyone with decent parents wants to change their name. You can be friends with someone, and be their sports rival at the same time. I was better at basketball with my best friend, but he was a better bowler. But man, we went at it like two dogs trying to steal each other's dinner.
You notice how Kareem said he only blocked 1 or 2 of his sky hooked shots, but Wilt said he blocked he blocked 3 in a row.. Lol
The footage is there
Yes Kareem was joking down playing it for tv loll
Lol what do u want him to say.
Kareem 6 chip and 5 mvp. Walt 1 chip 0 mvp
@@Jalen9434 Wilt has 2 championships and 4 MVPs ? Where you getting your facts from lol
Wilt’s head band is legendary alone
Wilt Chamberlain was by far the best athletic big man ever
Where is wilt now? Heaven or hell.
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I don’t think the NBA will ever see anything like Wilt in his prime. Some of the videos of him in his prime with the warriors were crazy. He actually took it easy lots of games on dunks because he knew he’d break people’s arms. Lot of games he was effortlessly scoring 50. He was a man among boys.
Swap Wilt and Russell and let’s see who is the undisputed goat.
Played against plumbers. Put Shaq or any of the other great centers in that generation and they do the same
@@Gofroze true true. The game was in a different place back then. For everybody obviously.
@@Gofrozewilt would average 50 ppg in today's NBA
@@glen7137 wilt would be javale mcgee in this nba
Great Video...If Wilt was alive today , he would have been a major media star...he was well spoken, funny and Sophisticated...men wanted to be him ,women wanted to be with him...I'm 68 and Wilt is in my top 5 of Athletes that I wanted to listen to anything he was talking about ...Race cars ,track and field , Women Volleyball on the beach in LA...his house on Mulholland dr was built for him with 9 ft doors and his pool was outside but you could swim to the inside of the house...The Man had a Giant personality and wanted sophisticated finer things in life...He took a young introverted Kareem to exposed him to those things like Jazz...Kareem was his protégé...RIP Wilt you always bring a smile to my face !
Wilt was bigger than life!
What struck me watching this video was how well spoken Wilt was when he was being interviewed. He sounded like a really intelligent guy. Kareem has that reputation too. It probably really helped that those guys spent the whole four years in college back then. When you compare them to the guys in the league today there's no contest. Ball players these days mostly sound like morons. Wilt and Kareem sound like scholars!
After being thoroughly outplayed by Kareem in the first 2 games of the 1972 WCF, Wilt took it up several notches on defense. Chamberlain shut out Abdul-Jabbar in the last 11 minutes of Game 3, he blocked 33 shots in the last 4 games of the series, and held the league MVP to a miserable .414 from the field. The Big Dipper was clutch in the last 2 games of the series. In Game 5, he was 8-8 from the free throw line and Jerry West stated that Wilt's Game 6 performance was, "the greatest ball busting performance I've ever seen."
GAME 5 12 PTS 26 REBS 6 ASTS 11 BLKS 2-3 from the field 8-8 from the free throw line
GAME 6 20 PTS 24 REBS 2 ASTS 9 BLKS 8-12 from the field 4-7 from the free throw line
Another detail I have checked out... Wilt had so many games of plus 80. pts + rbs. There are only a handful of players that achieved that once or twice in their whole career. Wilt did that close to 100 times. so many monster games! Russell did slow Wilt down offensively now and then, its to be expected, but overall, he was rarely more effective than anyone else. Wilt is in a category like Babe Ruth, Wayne Gretsky, and maybe Jim Brown. just another level that no one else comes close. Plus he was a nice guy and gave away millions, helped a lot of people.
@@Davek7110 Excellent point about Russell slowing down Chamberlain "now and then," and the FACTS bare that out. For the most part, Russell had no answers against the Big Dipper's offensive arsenal which included fadeaway jumpers, finger rolls, dunks, and baseline reverse layups. For example, in Wilt's historic 1961-1962 season, he put up the following numbers against Russell in the regular season.
12/13/61 52 points on 22-43 from the field
12/30/61 41 points on 17-34 from the field
1/14/62 62 points on 27-45 from the field
1/27/62 53 points on 21-28 from the field
1/28/62 50 points on 17-31 from the field
2/9/62 48 points on 15-32 from the field 18-23 from the foul line
In terms of Wilt's incredible career achievements, it is a little known FACT that in his first 6 post-season appearances (e.g., 52 playoff games), the Big Dipper averaged 32.8 PTS, 26.6 REBS, and shot .505 from the field in a league that shot .426 in that time span. No player in NBA history had a single playoff series averaging 32 points and 26 rebounds, yet Wilt averaged that over the course of 6 post-seasons. After completing the greatest playoff run in post-season history (e.g., 15 playoff games 21.7 PTS, 29.1 REBS, 9.0 ASTS, 9.2 BLKS) and winning his 1st NBA title, Wilt's 7 year playoff stat line reads 30.4 PTS, 27.0 REBS, 4.5 ASTS, and .515 from field. That insane stat line was compiled over the course of 67 playoff games and came at the expense of 3 time all-star center Johnny Red Kerr, HOF center Bill Russell, HOF center Zelmo Beaty, 4 time all-star center Wayne Embry, HOF center Nate Thurmond, and mediocre center Connie Dierking.
Legend has it after the second loss Wilt kicked the coaches out of the locker room and Wilt read the riot act to the team. After that he was a man possessed.
Yes indeed Wilt Chamberlain came to play
@@georgeorwell4534 In the documentary about the 1971-1972 Lakers, several of Wilt's teammates stated that this was a factual narrative (e.g., Wilt had a player's only meeting before Game 6 of the WCF) and it went something like this...Chamberlain told his teammates that when he was the best center in the league, Bill Russell had better teammates, so the Celtics won most of the time. Kareem is now the best center in the league, but I have the better teammates, so let's win this thing now and not let it get to a 7th game.
The guy played with a fractured hand wrapped lmaoo and today nba players take days off for (Personal reasons ) lmaoo
Not to mention medical practices back then were not as advanced.
LE GEEMM BACK AT IT 😂
LEFLOP 😂
The younginz always brag about how players are more athletic these days, too bad they ain't as tough.
Thank you wilt . Avg 48 minutes a game for a season and the dudes taking games off for rest
Growing up watching MJ, we didn’t have access to watch this. Wilt Chamberlain was a monster
I had the honor of seeing Chamberlain in person, twice. Both games they couldn't touch him. He was just so powerful and quicker than you would expect from someone that size. He and West were MY heroes. I loved West's jumper, so smooth and effortless, I copied it when I played.
I felt the same way, Wilt was my favorite center and I patterned my game after Mr Clutch, especially his quick jumper. I loved watching that '72 Laker team!
West had the quickest release on a jump shot in the NBC.
Oops...NBA.
Kareem always played in Adidas; low-tops at that [hidden wisdom of John Wooden?]. Interesting, given his amazing longevity. Wilt played his whole career in CHUCKS. Weighing 293 in 1964, and 310-315 pounds during the Laker years; Yikes- a man that size, jumping that high, year after year, no wonder he was done after a little over 1,000 games. Imagine if Wilt just got to wear 1985-vintage Air Jordans [OK- Air Wilts], not to mention the high-tech, fully-custom shoes worn in today's NBA. Given his amazing physical attributes, he could easily have played 20 or more relatively injury-free seasons.
Omg with some shoes with padding he would be jumping over the whole goal
yeah, Chucks definitely shortened careers for that entire generation.
And better court and floors like we have today. They were ragetty as shit back then lol
@@kanob6440 the infamous "parquet" at Boston Garden!
It's because modern day shoes have made the feet, ankles, knees and hips weaker. That's why we see so many ACL and MCL injuries.
Wilt was better but he was past his prime by the time that Kareem came into the league. Had they been closer in age, Kareem would've been forgotten about cause Wilt would've done everything to embarrass him and cause separation like the last clip in that epic duel. Wilt was just a super human athlete.
Well Kareem wouldn't have been forgotten about -- there were times he'd still have had success, especially against players other than Wilt. But Wilt was the MAC DADDY, A.K.A. "THE BIG DIPPER" 🤚💥🏀
@@brian7333 well put! Loved that era! Every team had a KILLER, some teams had a few (Celtics, Baltimore, knicks had some good FG% guys good for 20+ a game)
Jabbar forgotten about? No way. It would have been one of the greatest sports rivalries ever. In the end I think Wilt would have prevailed but no way would Jabbar have been forgotten about.
Players with Most 30pt+ , 30+ reb games:
Entire NBA history: 31
Wilt Chamberlain: 124
Holy fuckin shit
honestly people don’t get that many rebounds now days he was the biggest dude on the court there were not 7”1 like there are today even bill russell was only like 6”8 6”9
@@rapartist9309 At no point in his career was Wilt ever the tallest player in the league. Oh, and Bill Russell was 6'10" and would be listed as 6'11" or even 7'0" with today's exaggerated heights.
@@rapartist9309Lol the most popular absolutely false comment The average height of centers is basically the same now as it was then. The 80’s and 90’s actually had the tallest. A better argument would be the average weight has increased (which is true by about 10Lb) and you might have had a point. I would counter that Wilt was freakishly strong so the increase in weight wouldn’t matter as much.
I respect Kareem Abdul-Jabbar. He's one of the best, if not the best, player to ever played in the league.
But i loved Wilt Chamberlain so much. Even though i wasn't even born at the time when he died, he always is an inspiration to me in playing Basketball and playing on a Power Forward position. He is truly the BLACK SUPERMAN
He just plain superman
@@benbushell1448he’s certainly the closest thing we’ve ever seen to Superman in the history of humankind
Wilt had some serious fadeaway skills! Amazing!
King of the fade away jumper.
@@johnroberts1141 Kobe is
@@austynjoe3495 yeah... the most ineffiecient player of all time😂
@@tsnginsmojared2896 Allen Iverson.
@@dimitriskazantzidis7718 kobe can score 50 everynight
On 50 FGA💀
WILT THE REAL GOAT!!
AN ALL THE RECORDS TO BACK IT UP!! RIP DIP WE MISS YA!!
JUST NO OTHERS LIKE YA
100% accurate! The GOAT!
Also 2 rings how does make him the goat
So bill russel is the goat?
🤡🤡🤡🤡 HELL NO !!!
@@AHMAD-2324 lol
Wilt is a athletic phenomena.
Kareem, asked if Wilt ever blocked his skyhook. “He blocked 1 or 2 when I was a rookie, then he never blocked another one.” We then watch Wilt block 5 of Kareem’s skyhooks in a row, one with his left hand.
most of them were goal tending
@@outer967 Your a goal tender rookie....
Those were just replays of the same sequences. Wilt blocked 2.
4:29 Larry says, "you just can't guard it", and next you see Wilt blocking it twice in a row, lol, and it was not in Kareem's rookie season, it was later on.
@@outer967 They were not goald tends, but even if it they were it's pretty impressive what you see at 4:29.
Wilt is the most underated athlete ever not just badketball look at video of him run past guards
Facts
In his older age.amazing
Much respect to both legends. However, a young Wilt was simply a marvel of human physical nature and supreme athleticism.
The speed, the athleticism, the fundamentals, the shooting! Man, no centers today, no matter how close to MVP come close to their overall prowess. Insane shit right there.
Who
In Sweden i was the "karem" no one could block my skyhooks, i am only 6.3 tall but as playing in the 3third division i was a master of the skyhooks . and i am still playing at 63 years old with youngsters in their 20 ths . and i still can match them ! so joyfulle! i love these young gyes! so much life in them!!!!
A historic anecdote that is not well known. I attended the infamous Lakers "Game 7" in 1969, the last time Wilt and Russell faced each other. At halftime, as the players trudged into the tunnel, standing right in front of it was a network reporter interviewing just-graduated [and NCAA winning] UCLA senior Lew Alcindor. It so happened that Wilt and Russell arrived at the entrance at the same instant, and they both stopped a few feet in front of Alcindor. All three legendary big men stood and glared at each other for a silent moment, and then walked on into history.
@David Mutchler Hard to say, and I was at least 75 feet away, so could not hear if any of them said anything. Maybe it was just surprise on both of the old guys' parts at unexpectedly seeing the one player they knew was at their level, right in their house. I also think this was at a time when Kareem and Wilt had developed a bit of animosity toward each other. They had been friends when Kareem was 14, but he would have been around 22.
@David Mutchler I have never heard one way or the other.
@David Mutchler Russell was actually 1/4 inch taller than Hakeem, and even better on defense, though not as gifted on offense. Up until age 37, young Hakeem could not really handle Kareem, though from age 38 on, "Grandpa" Kareem was not really a match for prime Hakeem.
@David Mutchler You asked how Russell might have handled Kareem, that was the closest example I could think of. There are probably others as well.
th-cam.com/video/z4IrFoi2gMY/w-d-xo.html as well.
39 year old Kareem had 40 points against Hakeem and Sampson
LEGEND
wilt had 45 vs knicks in 70 finals
How about 40 years Kareem Abdul jabber;; did Hakeem olajuwon score 50 on jabber:: mercy rule for jabber;; nuring home basketball players;; laugh : laugh
CAN YOU IMAGINE WHAT THESE TWO AMAZING ATHLETES IN THEIR PRIME WOULD DO IN TODAY'S NBA,,,,,,OH MY!!!!!!
They’d be useless as they can’t shoot the 3
They would be like bol bol
they wouldn’t be any good. players now are actually skilled
@@johndoe3707 nonsense..john doe you never saw them play ..you were not born...
@@VictorVonDoom. your statement made no sense...did you see them play?? Were you born?...something tells me 👎no....
Excellent video, thanks. Wilt and Kareem are the two most dominant center I've ever seen play and the most dominant was Wilt. Kareem's sky hook was damn near impossible to stop though, and he gave Wilt fits. But that game that Wilt led the Lakers past the Bucks was so clutch. The thing was, you never wanted to make Wilt mad and you didn't want to wake the normally even keel motivation of Wilt even if he was at the end of his career and dealing with the after math of some serious knee issues. Remember this: no player has ever had a season in which he averaged 30 ppg and 20 rpg. Wilt averaged 30 and 20 for his career.
Old man wilt with knee surgery knees outscore jabbar few times, block 🚫bunch of skyhooks shot of jabbar, kareem Abdul-Jabbar lucky never met early 1960s wilt on the basketball court
@@lloydkline6946 I'm a Jabbar fan but also a fan of Wilt. Prime Wilt had the unstoppable fadeaway on the left low block, the Dipper finger roll, the easy hook shot, and the powerful Dipper Dunk that nobody was blocking. Wilt was a better shot blocker and rebounder. Much respect to Wilt and Jabbar, both great players.
I agree. Great comment. Rebounding is 2nd in importance, after scoring. Wilt out rebounded everybody, by a significant amount, except Bill Russel was a fairly close 2nd. I like to keep stating that for the Wilt Haters out there.
@@wmden1 Wilt was scoring 50 a game in Chuck's! 🤣
@@jingqi9106 Yep. I liked the old Chuck Taylors. They were light and cool. They did have good arch support. Biggest problem, you were more apt to sprain an ankle, but the Nikes didn't entirely prevent that, either. The thick, padded soles, raised your foot considerably, which could take away some from the ankle support, compared to the Converse All Stars. There was a little trade off there. Just saying.
In the 1961-'62 season Wilt averaged a mind boggling 48.5 minutes per game {{WTF!}} Oh and
25.7 rebounds
50.4 points
Good lord this video was outstanding! Brings back memories of when true titans patroled the paint!
I'm glad you enjoyed it. Thank you! And you're right, there are no more titans in the paint anymore.
Preach ✌
@@FoobasSports Giannis!
Many players today are weak girly men planing in a league that minimizes physical contact on the court.
Wilt really needs to be at the top of more GOAT lists.. imagine if he was on the Celtics instead of Russell. He would have even more rings. His defense is unbelievable. I love watching him block shots and still grab it for his team.
Or Imagine he stayed in Philly his whole career.
@@coachwane I wish Wilt had finished his career in Philly. The 76ers would have won between 1-3 more titles if Wilt had stayed. They had a championship ball club in the late 1960’s. And they would have been right there with the Knicks and the Bucks in the early 70’s if Wilt had remained in Philly, instead of going to LA. Thank you Jack Ramsey.
Bill russell was one of the greatest players to ever play, coach and don't forget his nine championship rings.
@@paulephelan3605 Actually, Russ had 11 rings.
Red Auerbach actually coached a 17 year old Chamberlain who was on Red's summer resort team in the Catskills. According to Chamberlain, Red Auerbach said the following. "Why don't you go to Harvard kid? And then I'll be able to pick you off in the territorial draft for the Celtics." However, Wilt went to Kansas. Russell was drafted in 1956, while Chamberlain was drafted in 1959, so imagine Russell and Chamberlain as teammates, along with all of those other Hall of Fame Boston Celtic players.
Wilt was 1 of the only people to block Prime Kareems skyhook.
Hes the only one
Twice in a row
And Kareem was one of the only people to give Wilt a facial by dunking over him. The 2 best centers ever in the NBA. How you rank them 1-2 is a question of personal preference.
@Серёга Одинсон Russell won 11 titles in 13 years. He was certainly number 1 when it came to rings.
@Серёга Одинсон Wilt Chamberlain had 23, 924 rebounds during his career. Bill Russell had 21,620 rebounds during his career. Numbers don’t lie. People do.
My admiration for these two legends is incalculable. They are the two players I first remember, and they are the two players that started my fondness for the game of basketball, R.I.P. Wilt Chamberlain...
Wilt and Kareem....they were both unstoppable. No one ever better then those two all time greats....
Not sure we will ever get to see battles like these two again. Remarkable.
I think the two of them had more respect for each other then words could express. They both had huge egos and deservingly right. The two greatest basketball players of all time.
Facts, but Kareem compared himself to a man 35 with knee surgery as a 24 year old. I don't see them on even ground. But I like your facts, 2 of the best and throw B. Russell in there.
I have to respectfully disagree with you. They were the two greatest centers of all time, not greatest players. I would say they were among the 5 or 6 greatest players of all time; but the absolute GOAT has to be MJ, followed by Bird, Magic, Kobe, Lebron, and “The Big O.”
@@frederickrapp5396 Kobe nowhere in the goat list T Duncan should rank higher than him.
@@frederickrapp5396 Lebron?
@@kasimshaikh3750 Fair point about Duncan.
omg wilts worst reb a game was 18 lol
What a scrub lol 🤣
Yes. Except for Wilt, and after Wilt, if a player can get 12 to 18 rebounds in a game, and maybe 4 blocks, he is given great accolades, even if he didn't score a point. Imaginary quote, in his prime; "Wilt only scored 25 points, and only got 12 rebounds, tonight." For almost anybody else, an MVP game.
@@wmden1 Absolutely true
@@LazlosPlane Thanks. I never worshiped any athlete, but I do have favorites, some of whom are in the GOAT conversation. The way Wilt gets disrespected, by some columnists and broadcasters, chaps my butt, big time. In my opinion, defensively, absolutely nobody, but Bill Russel, comes close to what Wilt did. Then he had that unmatched offense.
@@wmden1 Cuz the man was bigger than the game itself. They had to change the rules to try and curtail Wilt's dominance just to make it fair for the rest of the league lmao
I remember listening to Chick call these games when I was 10/11 years old. I hated Kareem and the Bucks in 1971. And Wilt was incredible in 1972. 37 years old. Of course, I came to love Kareem later!
Its a story of two legends that played way different styles. But both were goliaths of their craft.
So many waking up to Wilt's greatness now! Makes you think that about the fact that you can't take away a man's destined greatness.
Judging from the comments many are still clueless.
Not really now Wilt is supposedly not top 10 because of …. Steph Curry🤣🤣🤣
Wilt was past his prime and injured and still kicked Jabbars Ass!!! GOAT!!
Kareem was rookie idiot
Wow amazing video overall between the titans, with some footage I've never seen before. Thank you so much for all the effort that went into putting this together. Can't wait to see what you'll do next.
Edit: Just rewatched it and I didn't understand just how much effort was put into this particular vid. A lot of hard work went into compiling all this footage (from the college days of Wilt to interviews on both men today) and some of the videos and pictures being remastered. Also the whole story of their rivalry as a mentor and protege in Harlem, to fierce competitors in the NBA and then as elder statesmen who respected one another all wrapped into one video, a masterclass video about both titans. Many thanks once again.
Thank you for the comment! It was definitely alot of work but worth it in the end.
The Lakers really had arguably 3 of the greatest centers of all time. Wilt, Kareem, and Shaq
@Victor Wiley was just about to say id take Mikan over shaq
@@fhoeschasepape ...thats so dumb😂
@@JohnnyRodgers3 u not a lakers fan so y u care
@@fhoeschasepape ...i am😂
@@JohnnyRodgers3 u prolly under 21 as well 😂
Wilt really held back with what he could do because he didn’t want to hurt guys . Greatest athlete ever
While Wilt will always be , to me , the BEST player to ever put on a uniform , I also will acknowledge KAJ as being right up there with him. On any given night , it could swing either way. I truly loved watching them BOTH play! I remember being so excited when my Lakers were gonna get KAJ ! I just feel that with Wilt's strength & power , Wilt could go to a place , a new level that Kareem , just couldn't get to. Even tho Wilt was 10 years longer in the league when they played , Wilt could still run as fast,, if not faster , jump as high , if not higher ..you name it. What KAJ had OVER Wilt , was the right head-space! KAJ's frame of mind & out-look , in general , was much healthier than Wilt's outlook. I know KAJ wasn't exactly an open guy & didnt really want to associate with many people, His view towards the game & how it should be played ,was better. When coaches put Wilt into a role-player position , Wilt got TOO comfy with it. They want me to play Def & rebound, i';ll do that & sometimes even refused to shoot & sometimes his team really needed him to! But...yeah... Both were amazing!
I have to give Kareem his due. He was a great scorer, good rebounder, shot blocker, and general defensive player. Wilt was a good scorer, after he had stopped concentrating on scoring. He was more than a great scorer, when he did concentrate on scoring. He was also a more than great rebounder, shot blocker, and general defensive player, for his whole career. Oh yes, he got a significant portion of his points, in his later years, from offensive rebounds. I also have to mention, stamina, running the floor, and assists. I believe rebounding is second in importance, after scoring. I know I left out a few things, but that should just about cover it.
And he chose to stop scoring that’s what even more insane, if he kept on the pace he was on he was going to avg 35-40ppg for his career, Kareem was great top 3 center of all time and arguably has the best resume ever of any basketball player, but he wasn’t Wilt the Big Dipper Chamberlain, it sucks wilt died so early
@@lilripstaSSF4 he couldn't win a title in a high volume scoring role unlike Kareem and a few other HOF Cs so you have to pick your poison with Wilt:
Either he scores 35+ ppg and never wins a title or 18-20ppg while others score more and wins titles.
@@FuShengAlex unlike Kareem Wilt had no one who could give him a reliable 25+ a game, Wilt was the team and went to the finals and eastern conference finals, Boston all around team was just better, when Wilt finally got some help he went to 24 24 and 8 and probably 4/5 steals and 8/9 blocks a game, when Wilt had a complete team he won, Kareem had the big O, bob dandridge, and Lucius Allen who won a championship with Wilt in 67, Elgin and Jerry average almost 80 combined and still couldn’t beat the Celtics
@@lilripstaSSF4 which teammate did Kareem ever have in his NBA career that ever averaged 25ppg with him?
Hal Greer was a better scorer than anyone Kareem played with in Milwaukee.
Its fair to say he "chose" to stop scoring because his team hadn't won a title with him in that role. Kareem only "chose" to stop scoring after delivering titles and being 40 and too old to carry a offense anymore as a go to guy.
@@FuShengAlex Kareem’s 71 team he had 4 people average 15 and up, and the big O is by far a much better scorer than Hal Greer so no, and when Hal Greer played with Wilt he never averaged 24 and never in his career even averaged 25 for a season, yeah it’s a couple points but the Big O averaged 25 for a career and averaged 30 for the first 8 years of his career, Wilt never had a teammate average more points than him until he went to the Lakers
The thing I remember most about Kareem is him finishing the final exam in History 138A at UCLA twenty minutes before anyone else ;).
He's an excellent writer, by the way.
Wilt wasn't even in his prime.
Prime Kareem but it was old wilt a bit too heavy after near career ending knee surgery
@@ashwincheekala1566 that wasn’t really prime kareem. That was the first or second year of his career
@@aubhreypender3091 Kareem started his prime when it was 1971 which was his second year
Yea, but even in his prime he didn't dominate in the Playoffs like the regular season. He was averaging 50ppg in the regular season get in the Playoffs and give you 21ppg. Top 10 player of All-time but a bit overrated thou.
@@AHMAD-2324 remember half of his career he only passed and he had a bad team and wasn’t the best team played but I personally still think he is top 3 but I respect ur opinion
Yeah Wilt’s prime was definitely ended by his two 1969 injuries, and with Jabbar’s rookie season being 1969 it sucks that we never saw pre-injury Wilt face him.
We did it only last for one game
Fr prime wilt way more athletic than jabbar only player Tha could block that so call most unstoppable shot ever skyhook
One way traffic Wilt would dominate twice as strong and fast equal skill
Yet Wilt made it to the finals in '69,'70,'72 and '73. Amazing.
I wish my grandpa was around to witness our Bucks’ return to greatness. He loved basketball and loved the Milwaukee Bucks. He came to befriend a lot of Bucks players at the time as they would often lived nearby, and they’d even attend the house parties he’d throw. He got to witness the Bucks winning their first championship, and 50 years later I’d get to witness their second championship.
GREAT video! It is criminal the lack of video there is of Wilt and the rest of the greats of the 60's and 70's (Bill Russell, Elgin Baylor, Big O Oscar Robertson, Jerry West, etc) but you along with the wilt chamberlain archive and 70's fan are doing what you can. Thank you so very much.
Just saw this comment now. Thank you very much! There will be more to come.
Don't know how you're going to monetize this but if you can't you deserve it because your editing is amazing. Wilt vs Kareem in terms of the aging legend versus the new superstar that was about to carry on the torch is eerily similar to the Jordan and Kobe story. Only MJbecame a mentor to Kobe. Loved how you put Hakeem in there in terms of being the next great big to take the torch from Wilt to Kareem and from Kareem to him and it was passed from Hakeem to Shaq who was the last truly dominant NBA center.
Lol how you skip over Moses Malone
Then shaq to giannis
Basketball has evolved over the last 50 years into the most amazing sport in the world with the most talented athletes in the world. But unfortunately, because of the way the game has evolved with big men wanting to handle and shoot the ball from 3, we will never see another great “Big Man” duel like this ever again. This was special 👌🏾👌🏾
I have watched thousands of TH-cam videos over the years. This is one of the best videos i have seen. Absolute QUALITY!!!
Thank you!
Another fantastic FB video....Kareem is a legend, but Wilt is an ICON. It's fascinating how much these giants were alike, and how different they were.
I'm a life long Laker fan and saw them both play, and I got to see them go at each other before Wilt retired. If they were both in their prime, I'd have to go with Wilt, but Kareem would not be far behind, they were both Gods.
A 26 year old Wilt ( Goat) would have destroyed everything
I think wilt in that 4th quarter turned into the most powerful being to ever play basketball. A culmination of superhuman athleticism and achieving a clarity of purpose that he wanted to win along with pure individual player dominance.
@@masterchief5833 a motivated and focused Wilt Chamberlain is a mythical figure. He did whatever he wanted if he truly wanted it to happen. He was Thanos with all of the stones in his gauntlet.
@@sareaper69 I think he was always motivated by just didnt have good coaching, and yeah if he wanted to do something he could pretty much do it whenever he wanted.
wilt is not the goat
Lol against who? Russell got 11 on him
Imagine if Wilt was on that Celtic’s team instead of Russel, the top 3 of all time would be 1.Wilt, 2.Wilt, and 3 would also be wilt! I honestly think that if he could of even won 2 more chips with his superior athletic advantage people wouldn’t be talking about MJ, Kareem or LBJ in goat status at all!
I agree with you Josh. Wilt needed to win 4 rings for me to consider him as the GOAT. He only won 2. That’s not enough. Wilt played on some excellent, excellent teams from 1965-73. However, Wilt usually came up short in the playoffs, and didn’t get it done. Too many Game 7 losses. If I had to pick 1 player to win a Game 7, I’d go with MJ. Wilt had too many near misses, despite playing on outstanding teams.
Wilt was more of the reason Boston won so much than Russell was. Like Kobe, wilt thought he could do everything himself and had trouble understanding how to utilize his teammates. Even when wilt decided to lead the league in assists it was all about him.
Bill Russell had more black teammates than Wilt had thru out their careers. That was a major advantage for Russell.
Jordan had a super team
Three greatest player match-ups in NBA history. WILT vs.Russell, Wilt vs. Kareem, and Magic vs. Bird. No other match-ups with the magnitude of these I can think of.
I remember always watching them go head to head especially the game when Kareem /Oscar test of Bucks ended I believe a 33 game winning street watching hall of famers Jerry West and Oscar on same court .
I don’t mean to brag, but in November 1971 I actually predicted that LA would win the 1972 NBA title. They were only 6-3 at the time, and everybody picked the Bucks to repeat as champions. Absolutely nobody picked the Lakers. Except me. I looked at LA’s roster, matched their players up 1-1 against the Bucks, and said: “Wow! This Laker team is loaded. As good as Bucks are, the Lakers are slightly better.” True story! LA went on to win 33 in a row , beat Bucks 4-2 in Western Finals, and Knicks 4-1 for 1972 NBA title.
Wilt and Kareem are both great!
Kudos to the person or persons who constructed this incredibly impressive video. It is a balanced presentation of a rivalry between 2 of the 5 greatest players in NBA history. I especially love the section where Jordan's Bulls have no answer for a good team with a great center. Imagine the problems Jordan's 1996-1998 Bulls would have had with a GREAT team with a great center. For example, Wilt's 66-67 76ers, Kareem's 70-71 Bucks, Wilt's 71-72 Lakers, and Kareem's 85-86 Lakers would have been nightmare matchups for the 1996-1998 Bulls.
Thank you! Yes that part of the video I also try to point out just how good Wilt and Kareem were too by using Hakeem as an example as he clearly dominated the Bulls in the early 90's. Kareem seemed to be giving him trouble in his late 30's... and older Wilt had to defend prime Kareem. Amazing.
The bulls never had a good center, let alone great during the mj era. So naturally the likes of longley, cartwright and past prime bigs would be no match. Hell magic shaq had his way lol.
A true big man really only have himself to worry about. Between shaq, hakeem, kareem and wilt. None of them can stop the other. The greatest bulls would lose to other great teams. But get some wins as well. They were fortunate to be dominant in a declining big man era. While having the best guard in a growing guard era
@@Jiron127You make several excellent points and I would add that the worst matchup for Jordan's Bulls would be the 1966-1967 76ers. One can argue that the 1986 Celtics had the greatest front line in NBA history, but the most physically imposing front line to ever play resided in Philadelphia. The 290 pound Chamberlain, 270 pound Luke Jackson, and 230 pound Chet Walker dominated the NBA in the mid-late 60's and they would dominate the NBA in 2021. If you add Billy Cunningham off the bench, you have a front line that would be the Bull's kryptonite.
@@pjtheory that's what's so good about the nba today. A lot of talented guys, bur not outright great player's. To the point, the bulls in the 90's would need to do a block buster trade. Since they'd be up against super teams of the 60-80's. So trading for hakeem or shaq would be the move to go with mj.
@@Jiron127 I agree. Today's NBA is stocked with terrific athletes whose basketball skills are generally one-dimensional. The all around player is no longer a centerpiece of today's NBA landscape. That landscape consists of very good guards/small forwards, good power forwards, and mediocre centers. In terms of mythical matchups, the 1991-1993 threepeat Bulls were 1-6 against Hakeem's Rockets, so those who believe that the Bulls would defeat any of the super teams of the 60-80's are borderline delusional. The 1996-1998 threepeat Bulls would have had a better shot of defeating some of those 60-80's super teams, but due to Longley's limited skill set, Rodman would have been required to play some center. Longley and/or Rodman against the likes of Chamberlain, Abdul-Jabbar, Reed, Walton, Malone, and even Parrish? Yikes.
Thank You... I nearly cried when you showed how hurt Wilt was... I truly love the man, rest in peace Big Dipper...
Me too,my only idol ( except my dad and Ali of course)
When
@@coachwane towards the end of the video, where the Lakers are going up against the Bucks and Wilt's hand is injured.
When Men played the game! Wilt had already been through all of that with Bill Russell. He was past His prime with the Lakers, but still Wilt! And everyone remembers who had the 100 point game!
This video is so great...your very best Foobas. The top two centers of all time. LEGENDS, GOATS. ICONS.
Much appreciated 🙏
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It's sad, the NBA will never see to Giants like that battling head to head again.
Never is a long time.
@@alanfoster6589 yes it is
The last tough guys I've seem is Shaq and Yao
@@magopiendibene idk i feel like if they move the 3 back it will hurt the centers even more
14:43 Haha Wilt dunking on this poor guy who was really trying body him is absolutely classic.
Something to think about with Wilt...this was a guy who was actually holding back. Pulling on the reigns so to speak. And he did it and also felt that he had to do it for a number of different reasons. Statistically and historically speaking we got Wilt at about 70%...
An absolute masterpiece, worth the wait for sure. Thanks a ton for your work man!
Much appreciated. Thank you!
@@FoobasSports awesome video
@@coachwane Thank you!
Wilt would be the envy of the league in today’s game
A 7'1 man with a 50 in vert that can bench 500 pounds.... vs Joel Embid 😂
@@quisetoberry8430 I love wilt and all but he didn't have a 50" vert fam prolly more like 38"-40"
@@d1kheadmcgee596 he had a 50. Its been recorded in sporting events and are old videos of him doing so
@@elmergarcia8724 Bro do you know how much 50" is? I agree wilt is the greatest athlete of all time but 50" is a stretch.
@@d1kheadmcgee596 I mean that's what was recorded yno. I don't think you can know 100 percent unless you were there in person when it happened
Yet again, am constantly back watching this doco!!
Simply amazing stuff on my favorite players ever....
Your hard work is appreciated!!
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Silly old men
what the game is missing now is that old school animosity...Kareem really went rogue with 'Chumperlame'...DAMN...Wilt was kinda just telling the truth w/ the rebounding thing. Later on Kareem got better about the effort, but in the pros, just hanging around's not enough. You gotta box
Wilt chamberlain stories are legendary he would have put the scoring Wayyyyy out of sight you heard the man keep the videos coming please
Woww, I remember watching these two go at it. I loved practicing the "Sky Hook"
It's crazy to think that at some point in Hakeem's career he wasn't able to guard someone who had footwork just as good as he would develop later on. That's how good Kareem was
It is crazy to think how late Hakeem picked up the game and then went on to be so great at it.
Extremely well done! Way to show the younger generations what NBA basketball was like back then. It was a big man's game and the fundamentals were sound during that time- probably closer to the way the game was meant to be played. Today's game has evolved so much that Naismith probably wouldn't even recognize it. Big men shooting threes? Mid-range two-point shots considered lower metric shots? Career 12-14 ppg players signing multi-million dollar contracts. Yeah, the game has changed a lot.
Thank you! I agree.
younger generations dont care They think Anthony Davis is way better than Kareem and Wilt and all those centers because hes super agile and can shoot 3s and in their minds the competition that those centers played against was dogshit
@@johnnythekid4601 It's funny because I don't even think of Anthony Davis as a true center though he should be because of his height. Put him in the post with Kareem, Wilt, Ewing, Olajuwon (the list goes on) and he'll probably foul out in the first quarter. But that's the nature of the game.
"One time, when I was with Boston and he was with the Lakers, Happy Hairston and I were about to get in a scrape.
All of a sudden, I felt an enormous vice around me. I was 6-7, 235, and Wilt had picked me up and turned me around. He said, 'We're not going to have that stuff.' I said,
'Yes sir.' -- Paul Silas
"He [Wilt] stopped me dead in my tracks with his arm, hugged me and lifted me off the floor with my feet dangling. It scared the hell out of me. When I went to the free-throw line, my legs were still shaking. Wilt was the strongest guy and best athlete ever to play the game." -- KC
Jones
Fantastic work as usual, this video took your channel to another level in my opinion!
Thank you! It was possible with your help.
Love both of ur contents!
This recent groundswell of praises for Kareem mostly comes from Bron stans because his case against Kareem is an easier path for GOAT status than his case against MJ. People who watched or faced both wouldn't think twice when asked to pick between Wilt and Kareem. It was Wilt everyday of the week and twice on sunday
2 years later & this is still my favorite mini doco on youtube! Amazing 15 minute journey & hopefully see some longer docos on these Legends on the way!!
Best channel on youtube! Keep up the amazing work! 🙌
Much appreciated 👍
Basketball immortality summed up in a 15min video....now that's passion, gotta love it🤲🤲🤙🤙
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What a fantastic video. Wilt was super competitive. Also people who think That Lebron is the most scrutinized player, need to look up how Wilt was treated throughout his playing career. If we had more videos for his Era and today's advanced stats would've existed back in the day, than the GOAT conversation would look very different today.
Come on bro. We talking about the existence of social media now. You know better.
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This video is phenomenally well-done; Thank You!
I'm grateful you enjoyed the video. Thank you for the comment!
Kareem is the GOAT, and Wilt was superman....from another planet. Kareem likes to play humble but his ego is just as big as Wilt's, just expressed differently.
Agreed
Wilt is the Goat
Kareem is a "MUTANT"
Wilt at the end of his career 35 blocked Kareem 3 times in one game in Kareem prime his famous sky hook in front of him not at the goal
MVP look to Kareem!
You want Records look to wilt Chamberlain!
What about MICHAEL JORDAN? It's a true GOAT OF NBA!😂👍
@@jojiemariesoque3615 MJ is top 20 for sure....definitely GOAT of monetizing his NBA career.
Kareem and Wilt were the best to ever do it yet they were centres who drove each other to healthy competition which without wouldnt have reached such level of greatness.
As always, solid content!
Thank you for your artistry. Do you have the full interview with wilt and bill russell at the 1999 dine in. Wilt is so articulate, gives constructive criticism yet is objective and fair in his assessments of players. Kareem was just too sensitive instead of applying the criticism as motivation
Wilt is the GOAT... When I first saw him on TV, I thought he was the big bad monster nobody could beat. I thought he was mean.
Put Mike Tyson there, and wilt become real goat on market :)
I remember seeing them going head to head in Salt Lake City, of all places. Not a fair comparison cause Wilt was past his prime yet STILL gave Kareem fits.
Two titans never again