"I'm not so great at [rebrella]." Proceeds to play a phenomenal game. If there was ever going to be a game to show how the rebrella can work out, you got the best example on camera. I don't think the bubbler makes sense in this kit, but the angle shooter is surprisingly helpful.
The more I play this the more I really don't like big bubbler for it. I initially thought it could be nice to have a bubbler weapon that can get its special further up into actual positions, but the main weapon itself does not work well with bubbler. Being confined to such a small space on a weapon that relies so heavily on moving with shield launchs in practice just doesn't work, if you want bubbler to work you have to make sure you're placing them for your teammates and at that point you're just playing support on a weapon that struggles to get its special.
Part of the reason why Roller is a very solid Bubbler option is because having such a wide aoe in a confined space is easy for the roller to defend with. Brella's shotgun spread is too thin to have large threat, though if you do land damage kill confirming isn't hard with it imo.
I think I like how it at least can get solid positioning. Hopefully a second kit has a special that's less supportive though (Zipcaster on this thing would be so fun).
I've been finding the best use of the bubbler is as a lure/mega-splash wall. Instead of being IN the bubble, I drop it and move. The enemy presumes someone is in there or thinks they need to destroy it, and they move to the bubble and I pick them off from the side as they do, or I position the bubble between me and the enemy but don't actually go IN it. Indeed, I think almost anything else would have been a better match.
Recycled Brella certainly feels stronger in playing offensive in comparison to the original splat brella family. It has better accuracy, more power, and a quick recovery for the shield that encourages you to launch the shield as much as you want. The special is what needs fixing for me, because the bubbler just doesn’t compliment this brella that sacrifices defense for offense. I think triple splashdown is what it needs in its variant for a more offensive playstyle.
@@reicho3034 yeah it definitely needs more of a "back off!" special, or at least something that's an instant pop. It honestly would have been GREAT with Ink Storm.
the fact that dousers are even in the discussion with main weapons like squeezer and stamper really says a lot to me. If they get a better kit I think they could be *incredibly* dangerous, they have a lot of very strong traits that their current kit just doesn’t help them take advantage of.
You have to use ink mines like an Undercover Brella -- not as a passive defense but as a tool to keep you from getting chased down and reducing TTK. Drop 'em CONSTANTLY, especially as you spot a player you might have to retreat from. The Dousers strike me as a prime kiting weapon. Draw attention from enemies with shorter range than you, then kite them into mines.
theyre competing with dualie squelchers for that role, though ink mine is an interesting thing to add to the kiting strategy. Is it good enough to make up for dualie squelcher's splat bombs? probably not, but it sounds fun.
@@syro33 a big advantage to ink mines is that they help with the poor ink efficiency. You can drop them and recover ink while still having them active. They also do an excellent job of "staking down" claimed territory to help prevent counter-pushes. The number of splats I get off of ink mines when I'm not actively by the enemy player (either moved elsewhere or respawning) with Vunder is not insignificant. A lot of it is just figuring out the best placements for them and how to use them like a piton of sorts. Really does help reduce your TTK by a lot if done right.
@@FortyTwoBlades That's fair! I'm not used to playing with ink mines, so I'm less familiar. Out of the cheaper specials I think its one of the better ones for the weapon though. (maybe autobomb would be nice though? Those are fairly cheap, and would let the weapon just annoy people from really far away
As an undercover main, i enjoy this comment a lot. A lot of my friends mention how they don't know where to put ink mines, and i just tell them that you have to always put them down. Because you're confined to two at a time, it's fine to not worry about them disappearing quickly. Drop then as you're figting, drop them when you move up. especially put them down in choke points or routes that serve as Potential flanks, not just outright flanks. My friends who play backlines like Hydra or any kind of charger have mentioned before that they appreciate where i put the mines because it exposes a lot of people trying to get around, that might have been successful had their attention not been grabbed Because of the ink mine going off on the corner of their screen. It also helps me as someone who's constantly moving around. They're not bombs, but they can be used in different ways. If i used this set of dualies, I think I would just default to how I use mines normally and it would probably still work out. You can definitely kite with the dousers, i think, especially since people will just kind of follow you if they're short range and walk right into it.
I honestly like the dousers' kit. Ink mine can be place at different choke points or to cover flanks. Killer has the ability to reduce kill times and apply pressure anywhere. You're right about isolating a player, but it does way more important stuff. You're basically like the libero of your team. Supporting your teammates back with a huge range and hunting down and stopping your opponents from making plays they want to make. The range of the walking mode works with the chip and reveal mechanics of both the sub and special. You can guard an area with any damage you do get out of your sub or special in your range by dashing and blink killing them. No one will get by you and you can apply pressure and support your entire team from such a big area like I said. I especially run a huge special up build to get extra time on killer to cause so much pressure splitting them up over the match. There is the anchor being the goal, and you are the goalie defending the goal basically. - Random dude who likes the douser dualies 2024
You’re kinda just stating what the sub and special do in general not synergies with the main gun. Wail doesn’t significantly decrease kill time, ink mine doesn’t fit on dualies in general (s2 gloogas), a bomb would help so much + bombs would be able to combo. This weapon is a midline with the option of going aggressive ink mine does nothing to aid with that purpose.
Erm...actually 🤓 Killer wail and the bomb help you with using one less most of the time. People usually dodge going back with leads to at least some points of damage, or they'll go into a less favorable position. Both are good options for you just for activating special wherever. Ink mine is ink mine. You don't have to use it aggressively since these dualies are better for reactive/defensive gameplay. 35-45 damage helps you, like I said earlier, use less shots to kill with the main weapon. This all matters because you have a very long range weapon to capitalize on the reveal and weaken mechanic of the whole kit. I stated what they do to tie this idea together. You can also use the dash mode to react to flanks or such injured by the mines very quickly. If you want, you can play aggressive ink mineing then dashing back mid fight which works too. You don't always need proactive bombs to make a kit work. You need to be more open minded of different play styles that are enabled with kit like these. It's are really mindless kit allowing you to just pop sub or special and do whatever you need to do with your long range main weapon that has a single simple dash. It's chill and reactive. Reveal, weaken, and capitalize. Simple gameplay you should hopefully understand.
I couldn’t agree more. I haven’t tried the new weapons yet (haven’t played S3 in a while due to other focuses), but it definitely seems like the kit-while having a long range bomb would help-can utilize what it has in some fairly creative ways. For one, when I saw Killer Wail, my first thought was to use it to displace enemies to lead them into your shots or disorient them long enough to get yourself into a more favorable position. If they don’t move, that chip damage is helpful. Plus, with the range of Killer Wail, you can extend beyond your limits in your downtime. For the ink mines, I definitely thought of it as using the long range potential of the Douser Dualies to surf in, place an ink mine, then surf out to where it’s safer. Is it practical? Not really. Does it have potential? Probably! To me, the kit provided with the Douser Dualies seems focused on *displacing your enemies.* I don’t know how that works to synergise with a team yet, but I can see some potential in how you can drive enemies backwards and maybe into unfavorable matchups with your other teammates. Overall, it definitely seems like an interesting weapon with a lot of potential! It looks like it’s fun to play. Here’s hoping I can actually unlock it to try it. >.>
this is well and good but have you ever had to deal with people on ledges below you when you're respawning because ink mine aint doing nothing to help that issue.
When I was running matches to get my feet wet with Douser, a .52 Gal was occasionally dropping walls to protect me. And honestly, Wall works pretty great on this weapon. Definitely that or Splatbomb are my dream picks for a second kit.
Dualie squelchers already have splat bombs on really similar weapon, so i think splash wall is more likely (though gloogas have wall, hmm...) burst bomb is good on any weapon, and i think fizzy bomb or suction could be interesting... i think those are my picks.
@@syro33 I was gonna mention Squalchers. I think it will be fine to give another Dualie the same sub. But then again, Squelch and FF are both long range Dualies. So it might be redundant. Fizzy would be an AWESOME pick though. Especially for long/mid range pocking to make ranged kills easier. I don’t like the idea of Burst though. But thats mostly because I really want them on Dapples instead lol
You were exactly right about handling the long endlag with the dodge roll. I’ve been playing these a lot already, and I’ve just adapted to making sure my aim is already going towards the next nearest enemy or place to paint after a splat, so I can best utilize the shots I have to continue making in turret mode. Even at with the reduced range, the turret mode paints very well in a radius around it, if you do your best sprinkler impression. It’s a great way to quickly claim an area of the map after confirming a splat
With the brella I've honestly been finding it useful to think of its canopy less as a "shield" and more as an "extra subweapon." You aren't really going to defend yourself from damage with it, but you have a lot of them, they move fast and paint well, and even the damage is somewhat decent; it's only 20, but it has a small tendency to repeatedly bonk on the same target, which can add up if you get lucky. So you end up with this weird hybrid of curling bomb and torpedo, and also an angle shooter, which I guess is nice? But I've still been struggling to really find use cases for it.
Yeah I'm up to 4-star with it already and have been finding the most success using the shield *mostly* as a painting tool. I'll take up positions perpendicular to the objective line and use Line Markers and the shield to track enemies and block off their mobility. Line Marker is also good for harassing backliners since it has longer range than E-Liter and 100% accuracy with your reticle, so you can hide in ink while making a precise shot from a safe distance. Throwing it at the ground or bouncing it off walls seems to have a *weak* aimbot effect where it gets an expanded hitbox to land directs, since throwing it at the ground makes it shoot straight out at ground level.
The paper brella has a unique property of recivering extremely fast. Half the time i launch the brella shield not to protect myself but to cause cofnusion. Even if it only has enough health to yeah a few shots, it's back faster so its able to re-engage fights more often. Still that special didn't work for it
Yeah, I noticed during the actual game that the shield was launching and recovering way faster than the regular Brella's. Once it gets a kit without Bubbler (though I'm sure it'll miss the angle shooter and I doubt it'd get Burst Bomb) this thing could become an effective offensive Brella.
As a low S rank brella user (potentially main), the RB is pretty tough to use but very powerful. You can tank a suprising amount of damage for such a fragile brella and it comes back before the brella naturally breaks. This makes you a glass cannon, fragile under fire but with good tecnique, you can survive a 1v1 for a fair amount of time. Nowhere near as long as the normal brella, but long enough to divert some attention or skirmish a kill with a teammate. The bubbler can be placed in aggresive spots thanks to the canopy. Between its survivability, damage, and bubbler, it is a great weapon to help a team hold ground or push forward.
I'm horrible at using the Brella, but dammit, I will persevere and endure the countless losses to practice and master the Recycled Brella, just because it looks so dang nice! XD Apology in advance to my rando teammates who'll have to suffer my incompetence as I'm trying to git gud with the Brella...
As a tent player and brella player in general I instinctively focused on launching the shield as often as possible while playing rebrella. I feel like the best this weapon can do is spaming the shield like crazy and taking the small windows of being covered to look for a splat. As undercover is the flimsier alternative to splat brella I think rebrella is the flimsier tent so I still believe it is a skirmisher. The weapon is insane at fighting at mid range where it launches one shield after another to keep the opponent busy and uses it's solid range to splat them from considerably far away. You can force a lot of situations where you are threatening a splat without being in a risky position. But while the kit is pretty synergistic with the weapon it only enhances the capabilities it already has. Ironically for a brella the greatest weakness of rebrella I think is close range where opponents can just avoid the shield and abuse rebrella's slower kill time, especially compared with tent, and its tighter shot spread. Angle shooter is a midrange combo tool that is as hard to hit up close as the shots of the weapon itself while big bubbler only saves you at mid and long range. Long range is also a problem but as you can't reach them they won't reach you through the shield either. I hope the sorella kit gets splat bomb and booyah bomb/crab tank or even kraken. Splat bomb to keep opponents at range and having sort of a combo tool like slosher and booyah/crab to deal with longer ranged weapons while having another way of protection. Kraken is also an option for more close range capabilities and also a shielded panic button.
@@nathanblackburn1193 admittedly this sounds exactly like the kit the devs will give it but pls no. In theory this might work but in practice it'd be horrible.
i dont think this will have a sorella kit, since it has mark I, like the bamboozlers do. Kind of odd cause all the rest of the brellas use sorella for the alt kit.
4:44 "poke them with long range shots, if they rush you dodge roll to avoid their damage and finish them off" With that description of the playstyle I think I see what they might have been trying to do with mine. The idea seems to be you place the mines out in front of you, then back up and poke at full range with the mines between you and the opponent. If they try to rush you they're supposed to run into the mine, if they survive the mine and keep coming then you dodge roll and finish them off, move up a bit to replace the mine, move back and repeat. Almost like some kind of stall plan. The problem of course is that if you can safely run up and place a mine moving back again doesn't make a whole lot of sense. And also as you mention later mines can be shot and triggered without doing actual damage, which seems especially likely if you're supposed to have them just sitting in the middle ground between you and the opponent.
Undercover Brella uses mines in this manner. You run forward to draw attention and drop a mine and retreat. They then try to chase you and get hit by the mine on the way in. It's a very viable tactic, especially since Dousers have actual range to them. But for it to work you should be CONSTANTLY dropping mines.
I think the main problem is that the main weapon doesn't need mines to do that. Having a sub that protects you against enemies rushing you down is a bit redundant when the main weapon does that just fine and would benefit from something else more.
@@probablygeneric429 however one thing it DOES suffer from is poor ink efficiency and you can drop 2x mines and recover ink meaning that you're more likely to splat a lured opponent without running dry and getting overtaken as a result.
@@satannstuff first off, there's a counter for everything. Second of all, that's what having awareness is for. Third, mines are C H E A P. On Vunder I run a little Ink Saver Sub specifically to make it so I can drop 'em at basically any time without having to think about it.
Dousers feel like they're a good counter to the midrange weapons with slow kill times and committal fire like Stamper and Range Blaster. They are very good at painting the feet of these weapons and chipping them out at max range, leaving them with the choice to give up space or try to move forward and lose the DPS race horribly to the dodge roll fire. But yes, Squeezer is still broken and isn't really threatened too much by Dousers, which will hurt its ability to find a competitive niche. Killer Wail works well to shore up its ability to deal with longer-range weapons as well as make a strong contribution against other dualies. And mine just... exists, in a separate world from the rest of the kit.
to be honest ive been really enjoying bubbler on rebrella. maybe its just a solo queue moment but ive been able to put a bubbler behind the enemy team and roll that into a triple or quad several times; the main advice id give is to use the bubbler super selfishly; i.e. instead of using it on tower, push in front of tower and pop the bubbler there. it wont have the nerf of being on tower and youll be in a stronger position (esp on that grate bridge on romen. i did absolutely disgusting things there)
If I could give Recycled Brella 24 MKII a new kit I would give it burst bomb and some form of ranged special to actually be able to kill things like snipers
This demonstrates a lot how much the right weapon/map mode pairing does. Brellas love TC, and while the ReB is worse at it main weapon wise, the addition of BigBubble makes up the difference. The Dousers, on the other hand, probably have their best mode in Clams or Rain, because they probably prefer to slay on equal footing, and ink mines can watch flank routes.
I've just realized the douser dualies feel like if you went for only main range up on the dualies in side order. I wonder is there was any inspiration there.
Is there a chance of the "what am I doing" series eventually being finished? I thought it was a really good series and would be happy to see it continue!
I actually really like wail on the dualies. Its less about shaving off a shot or whatever(though that can be nice) but rather that i can displace enemies from behind cover that i can then harrass with the long range of the main, and potentially finish off.
as a carbon main, rebrella feels pretty similar to carbon deco. it’s shots have very similar feel and range to vertical flings. i just play it like carbon and the shield is just a nice bonus for distraction and some protection. i like it 👍
I’ve been really enjoying the wail on douser, I just wish it had fizzy to combo with and help it’s distance paint or auto/torp/sensor for location so you don’t get sharked as easily.
I think Rec brella would be fine if its shield was a bit stronger. Then it would have a bit more stalling potential and have better matchups against weapons that just shred the shield currently. If not a better kit with maybe burst bomb + defensive/continuation special (kraken, crab or booyah bomb) would work well for it.
Rebrella is definitely an offensive-oriented brella. My initial take is to launch the shield as often as you can and mix up whether you're approaching with it or staying back, and try to take up enemy headspace.
These weapons feel like test runs for a new way of creating weapons, min maxing strengths and weaknesses. Dousers has really big range but the dodge roll while good in DPS has only one roll which is a huge weakness Cycle has really good damage and range for a brella but their shield is probably the least centralizing shield in any kit because of its really low HP and fast shield launch. These are VERY specialized weapons which makes it super unfortunate that they have such mid kits since these seem like weapons you have to dedicate a lot of time to in order to really get down
I think this douser dualies are more of countering than initiating attack like other dualies. Hm, supportive dualies. Maybe, though I am terrible with dualies, I might try this one.
Personally hoping for rebrella to get burst bombs, and an aggressive special, maybe kraken? Would make for a fun frontline that still has the sub combo like angle shooter.
the ReBrella shield is not meant to be used defensively the cooldown is so short that you almost always have the shield and the shield damage allows you to one shot with your brella
I wish the launched shield moved faster and did more damage with the re-brella. This could at least make the user more mobile like using a curling bomb
Douser feels quite similar to S2 CJet imo. Except it has more safety measures when you get rushed in. Not counting the kit ofc, would have been better if it had burst bomb.
The main issue to me with dousers is the lack of stopping power in the kit. I’ve heard Jared say that it’s good in zones but not anywhere else. If they give it a bomb and inkjet I think we could see dousers as a potential pick in all modes.
I really wanna be good at this weapon, but the aim is the thing I struggle with the most. Even when I feel like my positioning is really good, it still is just really tough to hit targets consistently
You know hat would’ve been better than ink mine? Torpedo… When was the last time we got a torpedo weapon? I actually want to know Because torpedo would actually work great with douser dualies,something to distract people,makes it easier and faster to kill at long range As well for the brella it could’ve been fizzy bomb,we haven’t gotten that in awhile either With how fast the shield launches you can throw the fizzy behind it immediately before your opponent knows it’s there because they were shooting the shield,shoot them for 90 and kill Even if it doesn’t make sense it still would’ve been better than ink mine and angle shooter
That's what I was looking for on the map checks. You can actually also see them briefly off to the left side of the screen in between the map checks as I swim up
"I'm not so great at [rebrella]."
Proceeds to play a phenomenal game.
If there was ever going to be a game to show how the rebrella can work out, you got the best example on camera. I don't think the bubbler makes sense in this kit, but the angle shooter is surprisingly helpful.
Hopefully it's second kit will be good
Yeah, a more offensive special would be nice
You didn't see all the matches I recorded before this one.
@@SquidSchool then again, only dapples had a bomb that game. Think that's a factor?
"I never even finished the What am I Doing series"
Yeah, and I was really looking forward to the rest of those. Oh well, stuff happens, no big deal.
gem if ur reading this would love if you finished it!
The more I play this the more I really don't like big bubbler for it. I initially thought it could be nice to have a bubbler weapon that can get its special further up into actual positions, but the main weapon itself does not work well with bubbler. Being confined to such a small space on a weapon that relies so heavily on moving with shield launchs in practice just doesn't work, if you want bubbler to work you have to make sure you're placing them for your teammates and at that point you're just playing support on a weapon that struggles to get its special.
Part of the reason why Roller is a very solid Bubbler option is because having such a wide aoe in a confined space is easy for the roller to defend with.
Brella's shotgun spread is too thin to have large threat, though if you do land damage kill confirming isn't hard with it imo.
I think I like how it at least can get solid positioning. Hopefully a second kit has a special that's less supportive though (Zipcaster on this thing would be so fun).
I've been finding the best use of the bubbler is as a lure/mega-splash wall. Instead of being IN the bubble, I drop it and move. The enemy presumes someone is in there or thinks they need to destroy it, and they move to the bubble and I pick them off from the side as they do, or I position the bubble between me and the enemy but don't actually go IN it. Indeed, I think almost anything else would have been a better match.
Recycled Brella certainly feels stronger in playing offensive in comparison to the original splat brella family. It has better accuracy, more power, and a quick recovery for the shield that encourages you to launch the shield as much as you want. The special is what needs fixing for me, because the bubbler just doesn’t compliment this brella that sacrifices defense for offense. I think triple splashdown is what it needs in its variant for a more offensive playstyle.
@@reicho3034 yeah it definitely needs more of a "back off!" special, or at least something that's an instant pop. It honestly would have been GREAT with Ink Storm.
the fact that dousers are even in the discussion with main weapons like squeezer and stamper really says a lot to me. If they get a better kit I think they could be *incredibly* dangerous, they have a lot of very strong traits that their current kit just doesn’t help them take advantage of.
You have to use ink mines like an Undercover Brella -- not as a passive defense but as a tool to keep you from getting chased down and reducing TTK. Drop 'em CONSTANTLY, especially as you spot a player you might have to retreat from. The Dousers strike me as a prime kiting weapon. Draw attention from enemies with shorter range than you, then kite them into mines.
theyre competing with dualie squelchers for that role, though ink mine is an interesting thing to add to the kiting strategy. Is it good enough to make up for dualie squelcher's splat bombs? probably not, but it sounds fun.
@@syro33 a big advantage to ink mines is that they help with the poor ink efficiency. You can drop them and recover ink while still having them active. They also do an excellent job of "staking down" claimed territory to help prevent counter-pushes. The number of splats I get off of ink mines when I'm not actively by the enemy player (either moved elsewhere or respawning) with Vunder is not insignificant. A lot of it is just figuring out the best placements for them and how to use them like a piton of sorts. Really does help reduce your TTK by a lot if done right.
@@FortyTwoBlades That's fair! I'm not used to playing with ink mines, so I'm less familiar. Out of the cheaper specials I think its one of the better ones for the weapon though. (maybe autobomb would be nice though? Those are fairly cheap, and would let the weapon just annoy people from really far away
As an undercover main, i enjoy this comment a lot. A lot of my friends mention how they don't know where to put ink mines, and i just tell them that you have to always put them down. Because you're confined to two at a time, it's fine to not worry about them disappearing quickly. Drop then as you're figting, drop them when you move up. especially put them down in choke points or routes that serve as Potential flanks, not just outright flanks. My friends who play backlines like Hydra or any kind of charger have mentioned before that they appreciate where i put the mines because it exposes a lot of people trying to get around, that might have been successful had their attention not been grabbed Because of the ink mine going off on the corner of their screen. It also helps me as someone who's constantly moving around. They're not bombs, but they can be used in different ways. If i used this set of dualies, I think I would just default to how I use mines normally and it would probably still work out. You can definitely kite with the dousers, i think, especially since people will just kind of follow you if they're short range and walk right into it.
I honestly like the dousers' kit. Ink mine can be place at different choke points or to cover flanks. Killer has the ability to reduce kill times and apply pressure anywhere. You're right about isolating a player, but it does way more important stuff. You're basically like the libero of your team. Supporting your teammates back with a huge range and hunting down and stopping your opponents from making plays they want to make. The range of the walking mode works with the chip and reveal mechanics of both the sub and special. You can guard an area with any damage you do get out of your sub or special in your range by dashing and blink killing them. No one will get by you and you can apply pressure and support your entire team from such a big area like I said. I especially run a huge special up build to get extra time on killer to cause so much pressure splitting them up over the match. There is the anchor being the goal, and you are the goalie defending the goal basically.
- Random dude who likes the douser dualies 2024
You’re kinda just stating what the sub and special do in general not synergies with the main gun. Wail doesn’t significantly decrease kill time, ink mine doesn’t fit on dualies in general (s2 gloogas), a bomb would help so much + bombs would be able to combo. This weapon is a midline with the option of going aggressive ink mine does nothing to aid with that purpose.
Erm...actually 🤓
Killer wail and the bomb help you with using one less most of the time. People usually dodge going back with leads to at least some points of damage, or they'll go into a less favorable position. Both are good options for you just for activating special wherever. Ink mine is ink mine. You don't have to use it aggressively since these dualies are better for reactive/defensive gameplay. 35-45 damage helps you, like I said earlier, use less shots to kill with the main weapon. This all matters because you have a very long range weapon to capitalize on the reveal and weaken mechanic of the whole kit. I stated what they do to tie this idea together. You can also use the dash mode to react to flanks or such injured by the mines very quickly. If you want, you can play aggressive ink mineing then dashing back mid fight which works too. You don't always need proactive bombs to make a kit work. You need to be more open minded of different play styles that are enabled with kit like these. It's are really mindless kit allowing you to just pop sub or special and do whatever you need to do with your long range main weapon that has a single simple dash. It's chill and reactive. Reveal, weaken, and capitalize. Simple gameplay you should hopefully understand.
I couldn’t agree more. I haven’t tried the new weapons yet (haven’t played S3 in a while due to other focuses), but it definitely seems like the kit-while having a long range bomb would help-can utilize what it has in some fairly creative ways.
For one, when I saw Killer Wail, my first thought was to use it to displace enemies to lead them into your shots or disorient them long enough to get yourself into a more favorable position. If they don’t move, that chip damage is helpful. Plus, with the range of Killer Wail, you can extend beyond your limits in your downtime.
For the ink mines, I definitely thought of it as using the long range potential of the Douser Dualies to surf in, place an ink mine, then surf out to where it’s safer. Is it practical? Not really. Does it have potential? Probably!
To me, the kit provided with the Douser Dualies seems focused on *displacing your enemies.* I don’t know how that works to synergise with a team yet, but I can see some potential in how you can drive enemies backwards and maybe into unfavorable matchups with your other teammates.
Overall, it definitely seems like an interesting weapon with a lot of potential! It looks like it’s fun to play. Here’s hoping I can actually unlock it to try it. >.>
this is well and good but have you ever had to deal with people on ledges below you when you're respawning because ink mine aint doing nothing to help that issue.
When I was running matches to get my feet wet with Douser, a .52 Gal was occasionally dropping walls to protect me. And honestly, Wall works pretty great on this weapon. Definitely that or Splatbomb are my dream picks for a second kit.
Dualie squelchers already have splat bombs on really similar weapon, so i think splash wall is more likely (though gloogas have wall, hmm...)
burst bomb is good on any weapon, and i think fizzy bomb or suction could be interesting... i think those are my picks.
@@syro33 I was gonna mention Squalchers. I think it will be fine to give another Dualie the same sub. But then again, Squelch and FF are both long range Dualies. So it might be redundant. Fizzy would be an AWESOME pick though. Especially for long/mid range pocking to make ranged kills easier. I don’t like the idea of Burst though. But thats mostly because I really want them on Dapples instead lol
@@Me_Myself_Maly Ah fair, dapples would be really fun if we got third kits (probably not, but it will make me less sad about explo to hold out hope)
You were exactly right about handling the long endlag with the dodge roll. I’ve been playing these a lot already, and I’ve just adapted to making sure my aim is already going towards the next nearest enemy or place to paint after a splat, so I can best utilize the shots I have to continue making in turret mode. Even at with the reduced range, the turret mode paints very well in a radius around it, if you do your best sprinkler impression. It’s a great way to quickly claim an area of the map after confirming a splat
With the brella I've honestly been finding it useful to think of its canopy less as a "shield" and more as an "extra subweapon." You aren't really going to defend yourself from damage with it, but you have a lot of them, they move fast and paint well, and even the damage is somewhat decent; it's only 20, but it has a small tendency to repeatedly bonk on the same target, which can add up if you get lucky. So you end up with this weird hybrid of curling bomb and torpedo, and also an angle shooter, which I guess is nice? But I've still been struggling to really find use cases for it.
Yeah I'm up to 4-star with it already and have been finding the most success using the shield *mostly* as a painting tool. I'll take up positions perpendicular to the objective line and use Line Markers and the shield to track enemies and block off their mobility. Line Marker is also good for harassing backliners since it has longer range than E-Liter and 100% accuracy with your reticle, so you can hide in ink while making a precise shot from a safe distance. Throwing it at the ground or bouncing it off walls seems to have a *weak* aimbot effect where it gets an expanded hitbox to land directs, since throwing it at the ground makes it shoot straight out at ground level.
One of them pushed into me, but pushed me into a wall, and kept doing damage until I died.
The paper brella has a unique property of recivering extremely fast. Half the time i launch the brella shield not to protect myself but to cause cofnusion. Even if it only has enough health to yeah a few shots, it's back faster so its able to re-engage fights more often. Still that special didn't work for it
Yeah, I noticed during the actual game that the shield was launching and recovering way faster than the regular Brella's. Once it gets a kit without Bubbler (though I'm sure it'll miss the angle shooter and I doubt it'd get Burst Bomb) this thing could become an effective offensive Brella.
The canopy actually regens slightly before the previously launched one would despawn naturally if I’m not mistaken
As a low S rank brella user (potentially main), the RB is pretty tough to use but very powerful. You can tank a suprising amount of damage for such a fragile brella and it comes back before the brella naturally breaks. This makes you a glass cannon, fragile under fire but with good tecnique, you can survive a 1v1 for a fair amount of time. Nowhere near as long as the normal brella, but long enough to divert some attention or skirmish a kill with a teammate. The bubbler can be placed in aggresive spots thanks to the canopy. Between its survivability, damage, and bubbler, it is a great weapon to help a team hold ground or push forward.
I'm horrible at using the Brella, but dammit, I will persevere and endure the countless losses to practice and master the Recycled Brella, just because it looks so dang nice! XD
Apology in advance to my rando teammates who'll have to suffer my incompetence as I'm trying to git gud with the Brella...
As a tent player and brella player in general I instinctively focused on launching the shield as often as possible while playing rebrella. I feel like the best this weapon can do is spaming the shield like crazy and taking the small windows of being covered to look for a splat. As undercover is the flimsier alternative to splat brella I think rebrella is the flimsier tent so I still believe it is a skirmisher. The weapon is insane at fighting at mid range where it launches one shield after another to keep the opponent busy and uses it's solid range to splat them from considerably far away. You can force a lot of situations where you are threatening a splat without being in a risky position. But while the kit is pretty synergistic with the weapon it only enhances the capabilities it already has. Ironically for a brella the greatest weakness of rebrella I think is close range where opponents can just avoid the shield and abuse rebrella's slower kill time, especially compared with tent, and its tighter shot spread. Angle shooter is a midrange combo tool that is as hard to hit up close as the shots of the weapon itself while big bubbler only saves you at mid and long range. Long range is also a problem but as you can't reach them they won't reach you through the shield either. I hope the sorella kit gets splat bomb and booyah bomb/crab tank or even kraken. Splat bomb to keep opponents at range and having sort of a combo tool like slosher and booyah/crab to deal with longer ranged weapons while having another way of protection. Kraken is also an option for more close range capabilities and also a shielded panic button.
I wouldn't be surprised if Recycled gets Splash Wall and Wave Breaker as it's second kit
@@nathanblackburn1193 admittedly this sounds exactly like the kit the devs will give it but pls no. In theory this might work but in practice it'd be horrible.
i dont think this will have a sorella kit, since it has mark I, like the bamboozlers do. Kind of odd cause all the rest of the brellas use sorella for the alt kit.
@@syro33 true, then mk2
@@Iga_Brosprayinggg for fizzy bomb and something like ink storm or maybe even super chump
4:44 "poke them with long range shots, if they rush you dodge roll to avoid their damage and finish them off"
With that description of the playstyle I think I see what they might have been trying to do with mine. The idea seems to be you place the mines out in front of you, then back up and poke at full range with the mines between you and the opponent. If they try to rush you they're supposed to run into the mine, if they survive the mine and keep coming then you dodge roll and finish them off, move up a bit to replace the mine, move back and repeat. Almost like some kind of stall plan. The problem of course is that if you can safely run up and place a mine moving back again doesn't make a whole lot of sense. And also as you mention later mines can be shot and triggered without doing actual damage, which seems especially likely if you're supposed to have them just sitting in the middle ground between you and the opponent.
Undercover Brella uses mines in this manner. You run forward to draw attention and drop a mine and retreat. They then try to chase you and get hit by the mine on the way in. It's a very viable tactic, especially since Dousers have actual range to them. But for it to work you should be CONSTANTLY dropping mines.
I think the main problem is that the main weapon doesn't need mines to do that. Having a sub that protects you against enemies rushing you down is a bit redundant when the main weapon does that just fine and would benefit from something else more.
@@probablygeneric429 however one thing it DOES suffer from is poor ink efficiency and you can drop 2x mines and recover ink meaning that you're more likely to splat a lured opponent without running dry and getting overtaken as a result.
@@FortyTwoBlades Unless you get jumped while putting down your mines and you now don't even have enough ink for a dodge roll.
@@satannstuff first off, there's a counter for everything. Second of all, that's what having awareness is for. Third, mines are C H E A P. On Vunder I run a little Ink Saver Sub specifically to make it so I can drop 'em at basically any time without having to think about it.
Dousers feel like they're a good counter to the midrange weapons with slow kill times and committal fire like Stamper and Range Blaster. They are very good at painting the feet of these weapons and chipping them out at max range, leaving them with the choice to give up space or try to move forward and lose the DPS race horribly to the dodge roll fire. But yes, Squeezer is still broken and isn't really threatened too much by Dousers, which will hurt its ability to find a competitive niche. Killer Wail works well to shore up its ability to deal with longer-range weapons as well as make a strong contribution against other dualies. And mine just... exists, in a separate world from the rest of the kit.
to be honest ive been really enjoying bubbler on rebrella. maybe its just a solo queue moment but ive been able to put a bubbler behind the enemy team and roll that into a triple or quad several times; the main advice id give is to use the bubbler super selfishly; i.e. instead of using it on tower, push in front of tower and pop the bubbler there. it wont have the nerf of being on tower and youll be in a stronger position (esp on that grate bridge on romen. i did absolutely disgusting things there)
If I could give Recycled Brella 24 MKII a new kit I would give it burst bomb and some form of ranged special to actually be able to kill things like snipers
This demonstrates a lot how much the right weapon/map mode pairing does. Brellas love TC, and while the ReB is worse at it main weapon wise, the addition of BigBubble makes up the difference.
The Dousers, on the other hand, probably have their best mode in Clams or Rain, because they probably prefer to slay on equal footing, and ink mines can watch flank routes.
I've just realized the douser dualies feel like if you went for only main range up on the dualies in side order. I wonder is there was any inspiration there.
Is there a chance of the "what am I doing" series eventually being finished? I thought it was a really good series and would be happy to see it continue!
I actually really like wail on the dualies. Its less about shaving off a shot or whatever(though that can be nice) but rather that i can displace enemies from behind cover that i can then harrass with the long range of the main, and potentially finish off.
24:14 for a spicy bank shot
(also I got burst-carbon combo vibes)
as a carbon main, rebrella feels pretty similar to carbon deco. it’s shots have very similar feel and range to vertical flings. i just play it like carbon and the shield is just a nice bonus for distraction and some protection. i like it 👍
I’ve been really enjoying the wail on douser, I just wish it had fizzy to combo with and help it’s distance paint or auto/torp/sensor for location so you don’t get sharked as easily.
I think Rec brella would be fine if its shield was a bit stronger. Then it would have a bit more stalling potential and have better matchups against weapons that just shred the shield currently.
If not a better kit with maybe burst bomb + defensive/continuation special (kraken, crab or booyah bomb) would work well for it.
Rebrella is definitely an offensive-oriented brella. My initial take is to launch the shield as often as you can and mix up whether you're approaching with it or staying back, and try to take up enemy headspace.
ReBrella definitely needs a buff. Tentatively I would say faster launch and movement of the canopy.
These weapons feel like test runs for a new way of creating weapons, min maxing strengths and weaknesses.
Dousers has really big range but the dodge roll while good in DPS has only one roll which is a huge weakness
Cycle has really good damage and range for a brella but their shield is probably the least centralizing shield in any kit because of its really low HP and fast shield launch.
These are VERY specialized weapons which makes it super unfortunate that they have such mid kits since these seem like weapons you have to dedicate a lot of time to in order to really get down
Also holy hell I think dart is actually a cool sub for the brella, dart just NEEDS a buff
@@theghostcreator776agreed. i love dart on this thing but man if you arent hitting directs it gives basically no value
@@theghostcreator776 All they need to do is make it so the line Angle Shooter makes does a little damage and it'll be significantly better.
@@SALTYTOAD00 if it's not a lot of damage then it won't combo with anything and thus not change much especially with brella
I think this douser dualies are more of countering than initiating attack like other dualies. Hm, supportive dualies. Maybe, though I am terrible with dualies, I might try this one.
Once you use the angle shooter on brella, you cant go back to auto bomb
“I’d probably rather be higher.” You and me both buddy
I gotta say, it's really nice being able to play the Brella class and actually deal damage for once.
Personally hoping for rebrella to get burst bombs, and an aggressive special, maybe kraken? Would make for a fun frontline that still has the sub combo like angle shooter.
the ReBrella shield is not meant to be used defensively the cooldown is so short that you almost always have the shield and the shield damage allows you to one shot with your brella
what am i doing series
"Where am I going with this" series
hi gluee
Woah I’m in the brella game that’s crazy
Romeo voiced his opinions about those weapons lol
I wish the launched shield moved faster and did more damage with the re-brella. This could at least make the user more mobile like using a curling bomb
Douser feels quite similar to S2 CJet imo. Except it has more safety measures when you get rushed in. Not counting the kit ofc, would have been better if it had burst bomb.
The main issue to me with dousers is the lack of stopping power in the kit. I’ve heard Jared say that it’s good in zones but not anywhere else. If they give it a bomb and inkjet I think we could see dousers as a potential pick in all modes.
I really wanna be good at this weapon, but the aim is the thing I struggle with the most. Even when I feel like my positioning is really good, it still is just really tough to hit targets consistently
This channel is like Cobson, it will always be a gem.
I love how this just straight up, unquestionably power crept vnova
My point sensor-boosted K/A says otherwise
You're implying I would select Douser Dualies
Recyc seems so neat, but with that kit? nah, I'll wait for variant
You know hat would’ve been better than ink mine?
Torpedo…
When was the last time we got a torpedo weapon? I actually want to know
Because torpedo would actually work great with douser dualies,something to distract people,makes it easier and faster to kill at long range
As well for the brella it could’ve been fizzy bomb,we haven’t gotten that in awhile either
With how fast the shield launches you can throw the fizzy behind it immediately before your opponent knows it’s there because they were shooting the shield,shoot them for 90 and kill
Even if it doesn’t make sense it still would’ve been better than ink mine and angle shooter
How much do you wanna bet Recycled Brella's second kit is gonna be like Splash Wall & Wave Breaker?
Imagine the new brella having burst bomb in its second kit
34:47 how did gem know there was someone down here?
That's what I was looking for on the map checks. You can actually also see them briefly off to the left side of the screen in between the map checks as I swim up
Just wanted to say that if you ever decide to finish your “what am I doing” series I, as a 1 month old player, would be THRILLED!!
39:11 Darrin is giving Dapples a bad name
Wall and crab would be OP on douser duallies, i think
Breaking News: Gem dosent finish
I swear to god I am seeing shit the ink at the start looked like loss
Fun fact, Recycled is CANINICALLY made of paper :)
I don't get what your cat is doing in the litter box to make that much noise.
👏bring👏back👏whatamidoing👏 pleaaseeee
As someone who doesn't play comp, I felt like the dualies had a bad kit and the brella was not done cooking. Not a fan of these weapons, personally.
Anybody else think gem sounds tired in this vid?
Is this a joke video? Iv bever seen squeezer love, ik so bloody confused.
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not first