Corsair Xeneon 27QHD240 OLED - Trading Brightness for Warranty?
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 17 พ.ค. 2023
- Been waiting to audit this Corsair take on the latest LG 240hz OLED panel and its finally here with the Xeneon 27QHD240 OLED gaming monitor. The big news was an extra year of warranty coverage for burn in. But does that come at the cost of performance or brightness? Is this the best gaming monitor for 2023 or should you look at LG or Asus instead?
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I love the lack of RGB. This panel, plopped on a VESA mount, looks like a normal monitor! No crazy gaming vibes. And always always always matte for me. I've owned glossy screens, and I can't stand the reflections. I even got a matte screen protector for my phone. I can actually see it outside now!
Thanks for adding in the the editing bit as someone who likes to do both gaming and productivity on my main rig thats a massive help!
Excellent review. Love the honest opinions on value, performance pros and cons , and comparisons. Great content creator in the gaming peripheral community. woof.
The actual monitor part of the monitor looks amazing. I think this is almost peak rear design so long as both usb c access the hub.
You're definitely right about the ASUS being the worst looking of the three, whoever designed that stand has no taste.
The notch thingy at the bottom of the panel is the worst, especially when hooked up to a monitor arm. It looks so tacky
Great review! Really love the connectivity and its design of it but the lack of brightness kills it for me. I get it that you get a way better warranty but if the monitor is not performing as great as others it feels that's it not worth it. Also the HDR not being as great it's another deal breaker.
I am so disappointed that the ASUS PG27AQDM does not have an HDMI 2.1. port.
From all the videos I saw I believe that the QDOLED seems better than WOLED. I guess I will wait for QD OLED 2, or the monitor refreshes of the models launched last year that should be available in the next couple of months.
Will watch more monitor reviews from your channel as soon as they become available. Yours, Monitors Unboxed and HDTVTest.
Thanks for the review. I got so happy that they are selling this in Canada but it needs some firmware updates to get to that perfect spot it seems.
That Brightness Uniformity mode seems like it will work well for someone like myself that has issues with sensitivity to fast brightness changes.
Yes! I have the same issue nowadays. I don't know what caused me to start experiencing this though... My hypothesis is either age or an sTBI that I had experienced three years ago...
1:42 in and the euphemisms are amazing already.
Another badseedtech video, another gem. You really do crush every one!
I think the big bonus here is that Corsair 3 year warranty covers burn in. While lg and asus doesn’t cover burn in at all
JEALOUS had me rolling, nice review!
I'm waiting on a glossy OLED and will instantly jump ships once that's a thing. But funnily enough, I just discovered yesterday that Level 3 Adaptive Backlight on my PG27AQN inproves the contrast tremendously. It improves it so much that it made me feel like I was gaming on an OLED panel (as I had that setting disabled ever since I got that display back in November).
@Eric C. The brightness on the PG27AQN is insane. So insane that I always have it set to zero for the brightness setting... So as far as glow is concerned, I would say that it's too bright to even notice any glow. It's more of a solar flare lol.
But when I commented on the contrast change, I meant that it specifically increases the contrast in a way that makes it easier to see objects on the screen that are different distances away. With that setting disabled, two characters at different distances would be harder to spot. But with that setting set to level 3, it becomes easier to spot multiple characters at multiple distances at the same time. It's hard to explain...
The brightness change for me is occasionally annoying with certain application but also unironically comes in useful for making in game flash bangs less annoying lol.
So true lmao
Flash bangs probably happen so fast that the monitor can't change the brightness in time
@@Aurosis im pretty sure it can. the response time is 0.1ms
It's annoying in games where the menus are bright. As it's not that fast, you can see for half a second an extremely bright image until ABL kicks in.
@@julpezri- The pixel response time is 0.1ms. ABL is separate from that.
LG 27GR95QE had the same brightness behavior you mentioned at 7:08, after you adjusted the 27GR95QE contrast to maximum , I think this should be OLED panel limitation.
High refresh rate OLED monitor with black frame insertion will be the endgame for me. Once that monitor is out, I'll switch my IPS to OLED regardless of the burn in issue when it comes to desktop use.
Love you Brian! Beastly monitors imo.
YOUR VIDEOS ARE FANTASTIC
Thanks so much!
Yessss you should review the Alienware! I’ve had it on my desk since December and the immersion is incredible! The glossy finish is so so worth
excited to watch this!
Man, I like the I/O for my setup but there feels to be too many concessions at that price for me to jump on either of the 3 options.
I think that with HDMI 2.1 you can downscale 4k signal from consoles for example and have a clearer image. Rtings mentioned that in a review iirc
I personally dont find that to be the case. There’s easy pixel density math when going from 4k to 1080p, but its weird w 1440p. In testing, I don’t see any noticeable fidelity difference between 4k downscale and native 1440p.
As most of the console games that can hit 120 do so at a reduced resolution (not UHD) anyway, its really not enough of a feature to make a difference.
@@badseedtech Thanks for the reply! Good to have this cleared up, absolutely no info about this anywhere.
PS5/XSX internal output is always 4k, if you select 720p output for example it's still 4k just downscaled by the console to 720p. Same with 1440p. The only thing you're changing is which part of the pipeline does the downscaling.
If it didn't sound dirty, you're not coming at it from the right angle...
The sheer amount of USB hub options on the back of this thing make me want it, lmao. I'm a person who has entirely too much shit plugged in at any given time and for whatever reason that is always a huge selling point for me.
Good stuff! Saved me a trip to Best Buy and the hassle of lugging it all back to return it because of the washed out HDR
I personally got the ASUS and I run the brightness at 45 during normal use and 15 during night time video consumption.
I tried for a few minutes going higher (also HDR), but for me it is bright enough.
8:38 No, you don't want that if you're playing games in SDR. If you're playing in HDR, yes, HDR uses a wide colour gamut, so then it makes sense. Not all games have HDR though.
I have the LG one and the brightness in SDR Office work really isnt great but for gaming its worth it for me.
Its also a bit smaller than my old 27‘ Acer 1440p monitor which sits on top, so its actually 26.5‘???
@Badseed Tech Mind if i can get a link to the Back & Blue HDMI 2.1 Cable you had plugged into the back of this Monitor?
After paying for your Floatplane channel, I’m wondering if you will ever post there again. The Floatplane staff seemed surprised you hadn’t posted in over 2 years.
DO you think firmware updates will make it brighter?
I'm definitely going to be a late adopter to OLED. IPS hasn't let me down yet and I play a lot of games with static HUDS and overlays, not to mention Excel worksheets for my job.
IPS glow is the only thing that is a big letdown for me
@@zeogamingmc IPS is only detectable on a fully black screen.
@ryansamms1860 no it isn't, I can see it in games where its supposed to be dark.
some time ago I was dreaming about 240Hz OLED Displays, I'm on 144Hz IPS and I think it's good as hell, imagine more Hz and an OLED panel? 😲
Keen for the 34” AW review….🎉
1:50 I just got an HP OMEN 27qs (1440p, 240Hz, HDMI 2.0) and PS5 will not do VRR on HDMI 2.0. It does do 1440p, 120Hz. Video settings in the PS5 say it's not VRR compatible. Maybe I'm missing something in the settings?
Is brightness something that can be improved through firmware updates?
You mentioned the Corsair has 3 year warranty compared to the 2 year for LG and Asus to protect against burn in. I heard that for the LG and Asus warranty doesn't actually cover burn in specifically. So does the Corsair protect against warranty specifically?
it does not.
Corsair warranty does cover burn in, yes.
Man, these monitors are so close to being perfect.. Just need more brightness..
Hopeful for LG’s 4K 32in variant coming Q3/Q4 of 2024.
More brighter OLED will increase the chance for the monitor to get burn-in.
@@mianlo2624 I saw an Asus OLED laptop and it looked so nice. Didn't notice it being less bright
Does this monitor have the same issue as the LG when it comes to overshoot(or inverse ghosting) at lower refresh rates?
Any shot at a 1080p 360hz OLED in the future?
Not a huge fan of OLED for my computer (would have to use this for both gaming and work, so lots of static elements) but everything else makes me want to pick this up if I could afford it.
I currently own a sold 1440p IPs. Im gonna mount both the monitors and use one for gaming, the other for work and other stuff while gaming.
@@Wusyaname_ if you get the oled one only use it for gaming tbh
Love the warranty and 0 dead pixels policy as well as the design without logo on the frame and no rgb. I don't really care about the low brightness as i can just make my room dark if necessary.
But the most important thing for me is the hdr performance which is obviously way worse than the asus, so i'll have to pass unfortunately. Now i'm just waiting for the acer to see if it's better than the asus. Unfortunately it will also only have 2 years of warranty with 3 bright and 5 dark dead pixels
Thanks for this, I just ordered the LG the other day and then panicked when I realised this monitor just released. Think I'll just stick with the LG :)
Thank you for this no frill and straight shooter video! Corsair *ALMOST* had my money. I hate Asus incredibly tacky design & stupid HDMI 2.0 so it was a no go. LG is a the king of Darkness so an automatic no go. Corsair had EVERYTHING right but my god....the brightness shifting is a TOTAL deal killer 4 me.
The LG is plenty bright unless you game in your sunroom.
With regular use, The LG is not too dim. 210 and 250 is not too big of a difference. The bigger difference is the AW3423DWF vs the LG 27" panels.
didnt he say the brightness shifting was able to be disabled? it was only the lg that couldnt be disabled
Actually i can understood why ASUS didn't go for HDMI 2.1. Just use DP for computers and for xbox/ps5 120 hz @ 1440p is plenty enough because they cannot handle more anyways...
And to be honest: It's the same panel. The difference is the calibration.
I had that Asus oled 240hz. It was beautiful, but it crapped out on me with a half space invader screen. Microcenter took my return easily. I guess I'm waiting to see how Acer's 240hz oled variant turns out.
Its the same exact panel
The reason why the Asus panel does not have HDMI 2.1 ports is a result of it using a dedicated GSYNC module. Nvidia is working on a new module that supports HDMI 2.1, but it’s not ready yet. Both the LG and Corsair panels only support “GSYNC compatible”, thus can have HDMI 2.1 ports.
The Asus PG27AQDM is also listed as "Gsync Compatible" as opposed to "Gsync", though. So I don't think this is actually the case?
I cant really tell the difference between an oled panel and non oled through your TH-cam videos BUT in person, is there a huge difference between the 2? Is it worth upgrading to an oled panel for the picture quality? I wanna buy the ASUS model but not sure if it’s a big difference
Oled is game changer
u wont see what oled can do on ips or va XDDD
Time to find out which one is taking my money🔥
Would love a 32” oled with 2.1 and decent brightness otherwise going to stick to mini led
Maaaan you're gonna get me wanting another monitor I don't need.
Can someone ask my question plz. I have benq ex2780q ips brightness is 400 max but i dont ever use maximum or even hdr. If I get corsair I will feel that "weaker" brightness for or not? Permamently playing on 1000 would burn my eyes for sure i think dont need thay maybe.
I swear I saw a video on a new gaming monitor recently that showed a hidden drop down usb hub on the front underside that you just pushed and it lowered down exposing a couple front facing USB ports...anyone know what monitor that was?
And still no one explains the differencw between gsync compatible and a gsync ship onboard or if it even matters…
i've fixed brightness issues on my LG by turning on HDR in windows and then turning the SDR content brightness up to 100, makes a huge difference when doing stuff outside of games on the desktop and in web browsers
For some reason, on some content I can see brightness clipping so tone it down to 80/90 gives a much better experience
That makes everything look washed out
You spit hot fire!
Very tempting. I’m going to wait another two or three years before replacing my 1440 IPS panels
Waiting for 4k , 240hz
Why bother is what I think. I have a Samsung with a va 240 hz and it looks plenty good.
@@kennethdavidson6508 I know what you mean. I feel the same, my panels are "good enough". I'm sure many people are in this same situation.
Steven - I'm with you. I have the same panel specs as you, and I'm waiting to see how these OLED monitors perform over the course of 2-3 years.
Corsair released a firmware update that supposedly addresses the brightness issue. Even without this, it would still be my pick because of the included KVM switch.
I don’t understand why this panel isn’t bright enough. I thought this monitor has MLA technology? Since LG manufactures the panel on Corsair Oled monitors.
Overall should I buy it ?
I actually hate the aesthetic of the ASUS so much I'm going with the Corsair model. I just love the Design of it (especially the lack of depth on the stand) and, even if it's a bit dimmer, that shouldn't be a big deal for me as I game in a low-light environment. I currently run my monitor at about 140 nits right now anyway. I'm confident that even with it's weaknesses, it will be a MASSIVE improvement over my 1080p@120hz LCD from 6 years ago and I won't hate looking at it when it's off.
Update: So, I got my monitor and I love it. My viewing conditions are a normally lit room, with windows that have shades. I've tried it out with Dying Light 2, Dead Island 2, Control, Diablo IV, and World War Z (with a bleeding edge rig, including an Asus 4090).
Extremely dark scenes can be a little dark to see, it's true. A fair amount of playing with gamma and brightness was necessary to dial that in to acceptable levels. HDR sometimes makes this worse (but not always). However, unless your room is brightly lit, I wouldn't stress.
Most importantly, image quality is wonderful, with colors and contrast providing a truly vibrant image. I have it set up next to a 1080p LCD and I can't stress enough how night and day the difference is side-by-side.
Text *is* readable, but it is not as crisp as my 1080p LCD.
To avoid burn-in, I would recommend keeping only games and moving pictures (youtube, movies, etc) without watermarks on it. No icons, standard web browsing, or text editing.
I would pretty strongly recommend this as a high-end gaming monitor, if you're in the market and have the disposable cash. I would pretty strongly recommend against it as primary school or work monitor.
hey how is the monitor so far?
@@_bchum Excellent question! I'll have updated my original post with lots of details. Hit me up if you have any specific questions!
nits aren't linear so you can't compare it that way. you need something like 4x the nits for twice the actual brightness, correct me if i'm wrong
Nits are measured, but not perceived linearly. Your number of 4x nits to 2x perceptual brightness difference is about right.
The abysmal low brightness is a dealbreaker for me
like all oleds for me, ugh lol
Does enabling HDR void warranty on the Asus?
is this a new meme related to that mb bios update that voids your warranty ?
lol
i keep my tn panel less input lag, better brightness and no burning
Please always mention that you can disable clear type to eliminate fringing in most apps with WOLED.
I don't wanna know how many people don't know this and have a terrible experience because of it.
I placed an order for this monitor last night, but I canceled it after watching this video. Thank you so much for pointing out the incredibly low brightness. 150 nits is truly unacceptable for any use case. I don't understand why manufacturers deceive us so greatly when it comes to the brightness of these OLED monitors. Both Corsair and LG claim a brightness of around 400 nits in their specifications, but it seems that achieving this brightness level requires going into this extremely poor color accuracy mode, aka. suffer mode. To save my eyes, I've decided to stick with my current 27in 4k 144hz IPS monitor. I'm not dropping $1,000 for this junk.
Same, got it cancelled after watching this. Disappointing, hope the new Samsung panels later in 2-3 months are more appealing.
@Zarate_80 I bought this recently and have had zero issues with brightness, it's honestly a fantastic monitor i'm so happy with my purchase. Sometimes reviews just don't translate to regular usage I guess.
Very nice voic- review! I mean review 😅
Haven't seen you in a while. The beard threw me off. Lol
That 34" Alienware you mentioned, that one doesn't happen to be the rumored version with the 240Hz 2nd gen QD-OLED panel from Samsung Display with improved brightness and durability, is it? I feel like we'll be seeing a lot of new tech in a couple weeks at Computex
Well it doesn't exist yet..... So?
I wonder how.much the unit will cost?
He has it on order so how could it be a rumored monitor? LMAO
Beards looking fucking good!
How can I get 1440p at 120hz with VRR enabled on PS5? Everytime I switch to 1440p on the PS5 it would not let me enabled VRR, the only way I can enable it is by switching to 4k. I am using the 27 Oled from asus which is 2.0 HDMI. Any suggestions?
Why are you asking on a youtube video comment section? The chances of anyone replying are almost zero. Just google? It's there for a reason. Everyone has access to it in their pocket. It's almost as bad as people asking how to fix issues in twitch chat.
You cant. You picked the worst option of all. Asus is limited to hdmi 2.0 and PS5 is known to have issues with this. Id return it.
Good stuff Brian!
I totally agree, at this price point there shouldn't be any compromise from the comsumer. From someone who hates screen tearing I'm a little salty about not having a real G-Sync model.
I'm glad that I have a ASUS PG27AQDM and PG27AQN :)
I wish I could be as cool as you are
I have both as well the aqn is collecting dust now
Definitely letting oled cook but I want one so bad, my oled home theatre/tv has me desperate for it for pc gaming
same😂 my lg oled c2 is amazing and now i want a 1440p one for my pc but after seeing these videos i’m just going to wait
We just really need a mini led or micro led monitor..
This monitor and the lg do not work for slim wall mounts, I need the HDMI and displayport plugs to be on the bottom. Oh well, will wait for a 32" 4k OLED
So Kratos is reviewing monitors today.
does this monitor have a built in fan?
Nah
@@badseedtech yeah i bought the lg but the 1-5% gray backgrounds looked awful( darker vertical lines and all), i could also hear the fan, i own a CX oled and i swear the 55" displays text is sharper than this monitor all those gripes for a 1k monitor nah...
yo ms word needs a dark mode
Does the warranty cover burn in? Because for LG and Asus models it doesn't!
It does, yes
@@badseedtech thanks, that's probably the biggest plus going for this model compared to Asus and LG variants. Thanks for the detailed review too! 😀
What Corsair making a monitor name that makes sense
Its weird that we as end consumers still silently accept only a 2 year warranty for 1000$+ eletronic gadgets....should be 5 years atlaest....
It just isn't there yet, need some 4k 240hz OLED with over 1k nits and high color accuracy with over 90% of REC2020
Thats bare minimum 5 years away. The hardware to run 4k at 240hz simply isnt there yet.
does badseed trade quality content for anything? No, Badseed does not.
Great video! I wonder if the wired headphones like the Altlas by TB offer the same „cheatcode“ experience as I really don‘t need a wireless one…
Whats exciting about more OLED monitors is we'll have more options and maybe cheaper OLEDs. Gamers end up winning.
did i hear him right? does LG and Asus cover burn-in in their warranty now?
No the opposite. Corsair does but LG and Asus doesn't. That's also probably why the Corsair one is the darkest of the 3 - least risk of burn in, in the first place.
@@Sly_404 thanks for the clarification!
Only Glossy OLED I know of is Doughs's but that doesn't drop til July-August
alienware?
@@faith9113 inbetween, but I personally would stay far away from QD-OLED monitors
@@Deznere whys that?
@@faith9113 based on reviews, input latency takes a hit over the other OLED options at the same size, not exactly something you'd want when spending over $1200 + you're making the decision of 175hz vs 240hz. Some reviewers have mentioned colors not being as accurate in certain applications, which is a running theme with OLED in general. Overall if I was going to spend $1200+ on an OLED 34" monitor I'd aim for LG or Corsair over AW, MSI and Samsung
@@Deznere the updated alienware model has less input lag than a lot of other options btw
Brian has naughty thoughts these days :D
All of these options seem less than ideal. Tbf the best OLED experience still seems to be the 34 inch Alienware DWF from december but im not ready to take the jump to ultrawide as 27 is perfect for me. My current monitor (LG 27GN850-B) is broken and heard that the new LG (poor brightness) and ASUS ones had their own problems (particularly no 2.1 and contrast issues on Asus) so was patiently waiting to see the corsair that seemed like the best of both worlds with good brightness/HDR and 2.1 ports for consoles. Unfortunately it seems to have issues from both of the other offerings, mainly bad brightness and subsequently bad contrast. Incredibly frustrating and I have no idea what to pick (and there's no where in-person for me to see the differences). Best bet is either hope the corsair gets improved through software updates or bite the bullet with subpar ASUS. 🙃
Regardless on the slight chance you are reading my rant, I highly recommend you do a three-way showdown type video with the ASUS, LG, and Corsair WOLED panel monitors (maybe throw-in the Alienware QD-OLED as a comparison to). Either way, your videos are really informative and my favourite I've seen from my monitor searching in the past month or so.
damn.. If only it had the same brightness as the asus...
Be careful with the PG27AQDM. Its disappointing that the issues the monitor is having isnt being discussed. It may not be all of them but its still noteable for a $1000 monitor.
Yeah the Asus overclocks the OLEDs to get bright.
What kind of issues are people seeing. Mine has been flawless and has probably 40 hours or so at this point.
Do you refer to the HDR issue? or is there any other issues I am not aware?
@@badseedtech The M103 firmware has not fixed the HDR problem for myself, and at least one other person ive talked to. The HDR is simply broken, not only is the picture a mess (blotchy, saturated and blue) but all the HDR presets are the same, no differences between the 3. The worry is that Asus tossed out this firmware patch, which to my eyes does nothing, and will now not bother to fix it any further. I have done the calibration, it has not helped. I have a lg c2 right next to me for comparison too. I returned my LG for the ASUS and am amazed at how bad HDR is, I want the LG back but at this point I think id rather just wait until we get a glossy version or the next gen of panels.
@BadSeed Tech There's been reports on different forums (reddit being an example) of the screen freaking out (looks like a bunch of static and is the most common problem, supposedly a firmware issue), HDR being washed out (should be correctable with further firmware improvements) and the screen going black repeatedly. It seems like a promising monitor if ASUS can fix it. But the PG42UQ suffered from issues that were never properly fixed either. I didn't want to link anything here as I didn't know if it's allowed but a quick Google search will pull some results. The channel is awesome btw.
I think its that 1000$ price tag thats paying for the extra year of warranty lol
360hz Fast TN still beats 240hz woled in motion clartiy, just wait 2024 Q3 if you are a try hard competitive gamer, there will be a 27" 2K 480hz woled or a 360hz qd-oled hit the market
bro how do you get your beard looking like that!
I've been waiting for a monitor in this category to not have stupid "gamer" lights and weird designs.
People should buy this monitor just to support naming schemes that don't cause extreme illness
The look of this monitor with the specs of the Asus would be a goat monitor. I really want this look, but that performance difference is a deal breaker. At the same time, the look of the Asus is also a deal breaker.
OLED burn in gang!
My LG CX still going strong 💪
So you are fighting against OLED..or jumping on the wagon?
I have not had one OLED device not show burn in within 3 months. And hundreds returned and refunded for clients. I just dont think its ever going to be worth it unless they get down below 200usd and people are computable replacing them every year.
Yeah I don't believe this comment. I've never heard of anyone reporting burn in issues within 3 months. If that's the case, that's just a bad panel, not an OLED problem.
I’ve got a 48” LG CX as my main editing monitor, pushing two years now with loads of static elements in Premiere - no burn in yet.
This guys fried. Your brain is suffering from burn in.