This Is China’s Answer To The Porsche Taycan…
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 14 พ.ค. 2024
- Jack takes a first look at the latest offering from GWM's Ora brand, the "Lightning Cat". Unlike most Chinese EVs we've seen in Europe so far, this one isn't focusing on the entry level end of the market - this powerful, luxury saloon is aimed squarely at the segment of car that the likes of Porsche, Audi, BMW and Mercedes have specialised in for a century. Does it have what it takes to knock them off their perch?
00:00 - A definitely real comment
00:56 Meet the Lightning Cat
02:12 - Unfinished!
02:59 - First "impressions"
05:08 - Interior thoughts
07:21 - Back Seat Jack Test
09:58 Initial thoughts?
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I don't think it's copying anything directly; it's embracing a style language that is refreshing and beautiful.
The designer used to work for Porsche, so the basic shape must be engrained in his brain. I think it looks brilliant
If it looks too much like something, then it's a copy
You arent fooling anyone Ho Chi.
I hope they keep the cat names. We need some fun and personality in the world, and there are too many boring number or letter based naming systems.
They will... In Asia
@@phuketexplorer Well that wouldn’t be sufficient then.
Agree, the worse being Toyota with their bz something that stands for something....
@@johnhornblow4347 I don’t mind stuff like that, like C-HR (coupe high rider) because they are more interesting than just the 1, 2, 3 series or the A, B, C class or whatever. But the cat names are some of the best.
@@christill We've currently got the Good Cat Pro, Ultra and GT here in Thailand. All come with full length electric sunroofs and a list of toys too long to mention. The GT has larger 18'' wheels, but the same performance and range as the Ultra. Personally I'd go for the Pro, which goes for the equivalent of £19,395, here in Thailand and is still fully loaded
I feel like changing the names to numerics would be a mistake. The Cat names are great attention getters and Funky, Lightning, etc are just so much fun. It makes me want to like the cars.
I can only second that.
I third that!! We need more fun in the automotive world!
I can definitely see this being popular with the older crowd.
fully charged production has levelled up like crazy
bitta banta innit bruv
@@groovytirma2409 gowayouttadat
jiba riba kkuatuatua gagaga
So have the audio levels, the music doesn't blow away the speech. Well done Fully Charged!
And this is one of the worse videos, filmed in a car park! Props to them for making it work!
FYI: The chief designer for the lightning cat was a former porsche designer...so that explains the resemblance...Awesome video, as always, kudos to Jack!
If it's true,the designer should be fired immediately, and kick him out with all his irresponsible knockoff designs, and the manager board should resign if they can understand the meaning of shame
@@yftan4353 it does look like a shoddy market stall knock-off toy version of the Taycan doesn't it?
@@yftan4353 The same guy created the original Cat. What's your issue with that?
@@phuketexplorer It's horrendously ugly?
@@JetsetDruid In what way is it shoddy? It's a fraction of the price with arguably better performance and fittings.
I love it where he said, look up the Porsche and the guy actually goes and looks it up. 😅
The added “oh yeahhhh”😂
I'm also getting a _hint_ of Bugatti 16C Galibier on the rear end... well done Ora!
Jack: "the car looks like panamera"
Me: "Jack looking like Rick O'Connell"
Hell yes
BYD don't change the names to boring numbers. Keep with the funky names.
It’s not BYD brand, it’s GWM brand…
Agreed
Yeah call it Stray Cat or Pussy Cat.
@@aleksandrsirenko9887 He was making a point. Get it?
@@phuketexplorer now it’s correct in the description. I got the point 🤙🏻
Although I'm not a fan of the design, I think it's cool that it looks different than the typical design out there. Shows some creativity.
not really just a copy of someone elses creativi
different than the typical design?? it literally looks like a goofier version of a porsche
Loving the review Jack 😊 Thanks mate.
It seems to be the trend to call car interiors vegan, when the true description is plastic... British Leyland was totally honest, calling seats vinyl. Anyway, that Cat has a very nice looking plastic interior.
i think vegan covers them if they have any cotton based textiles in. for sure anything leather-like is going to be vinyl/plastic though.
Clearly Bugatti Veyron inspired.
It's all part of the ESG bull poop.
Someone should rename leather interior to "renewable material" just to mess with the moralist posers 🙂
I'm not big fan of leather but to think that cow was killed just because of leather for some car is ridiculous. Cow was already dead, using its skin is less waste and more profit for farmers.
I’ve just got back from China. The EVs are brilliant and priced very well. When they arrive here, they will suddenly gain £10k. We are being price gouged again. If they were priced where they are in China, there would be no market for Western cars. A Model 3 is £28k now. It just doesn’t compete.
Also needs bigger wheels.
Blame your government for following the US's hatred of anything Chinese. The rest of of the world have trade agreements
Econ 101, the value is not how much it costs to make but how much customers are willing to pay. I'm curious whether this pricing strategy is going to pan out for them actually.
Apparently the price appreciation is not the car maker's choice, but more likely due to customs, tax, regulatory costs, etc
@@garethneal82 18'' aren't big enough?
Note to the editor and writers: the lederhosen / Porsche google joke and including the lederhosen in Jacks title card is comedy genius. Thanks for adding those visual gags in!
Loved the start and very funny! This does look a lot nicer than the Ora Cat. Hoping to see this at Harrogate
You do this entire review without driving it, and giving your driving impressions, which is the most important thing in any car! Thanks anyway, and best wishes
Nice video as always... thanks. Can you please consider to give us Europeans also the range in metric, not only in miles? The same for the kwh/mile... most of us don't understand the imperial system. Everything else is perfect. 👍
And the boot capacity in inches/centimeters (height,width,depth) - not litres - which is a meaningless dimension. Who carries a load of loose liquid around with them? @Malcolm Rickarby, who has chosen to make his irrelevent comment unanswerable - How many litres is a folded-down wheelchair, or a garden spade and fork, or the piece of timber from the DIY store?
Yes please, meters and kilometers 🙏
Google does conversions, is ez pz
I think they used to do this with the on-screen graphics. maybe not just for this model because it’s pre-production.?
@@hamshackleton dude volume is more important than just max length and height
Nice review Jack. Thanks.
I don’t think Porsche have anything to worry about 😆
Volkswagen, Audi, Skoda and Cupra might, so...
Well 5 years ago I don’t even want to hear china car. Here we go 2023 Chinese ev everywhere
Price😅
@@americannumber2 that's the fault of western automakers who wasted every early opportunity to invest in electric cars.
Isn't that the attitude that many motorcycle manufacturers had when Japanese motorcycles first came to market?
The best thing about this video is the good hairstyle that I also had in the 90's, liking the curtains sir.
3:33 is gold! Give that editor a raise!
Ora is from GWM (Great Wall Motor), not BYD. Please revise it in the caption.
I was just going to make that comment too. For a moment I wondered if there was some takeover that quietly happened
Atleast the hashtag is GWM
@@deragoth4250 No, Great Wall is a brand of the northern city of Baoding, while BYD is a brand of the southern city of Shenzhen. The two brands are not affiliated with each other.
OK I will give it to you, that edit made my chuckle.
Love the Googling interval. Nice touch. Nice Lederhosen collection too! I assume that was intentional or are the Fully Charged team planning a trip to Oktoberfest?
Hilarious stuff.
😂😆
Although I prefer if they used Ecosia as a search engine instead - if we care about the planet 🙏🌍🌱
3:43 I made the exact noise when I googled it, lol
Looks lovely. Nice to see a saloon styling rather than SUV 🙂
True, but I would prefer hatchback even more, more family friendly.
@@hishamg Yes even better.
i am actually annoyed that the few ev saloons out their all look like Porsches, the ionic 6 looks like a Porsche too. i would never buy something that looks like a Porsche unless its literally a Porsche 911
not sure about the exterior but it certainly looks good on the inside.
From side view, it has the Ioniq 6 body shape.. funky look here for this Ora.. love its interior and exterior. Let's hope the drive handling is as smooth as Ioniq 6.
Reminds me of the 1999 Toyota Corolla with those oval head lights and rear light clusters and its body curves. Like the interior, but those speakers need attention on the back parcel shelf lol.
Great review Jack its nice
Loving the Curtains Jack
The Ora Funky Cat is called the 300 Pro here in Sweden - which sounds like the kind of name you'd put on an electric toothbrush or some kind of garden equipment - strangely enough, they are delivered as Funky Cats, than stripped of the badges... If I were to buy one, I would insist on keeping the name badges! So I guess the Lightning Cat will be sold as the 700 Pro here, then... how utterly generic and boring! The car itself look like the kind of cute car you'd find in the background of a Pixar movie - I am susprised that it is pitched as a rival to German premium sporty luxury saloons...
Thank you Peter Ian Staker for that wonderful comment
P I Staker
PISSTAKER COME ON
This new Ora looks really nice though! Sort of like a Bentley almost... Kinda... If you take off your glasses and squint from a mile away
Nah it looks better up close
5:05 are those exposed magnets from the speakers ? lol
This channel is amazing. Love Jack. 👍👍👍
Looks interesting had never heard of this until subscribing here. Do you have a code for purchasing tickets for the live show at Farnborough this weekend?
Peter Ian Staker! I hadn't heard that one before. Gave me a good laugh this morning.
All new Ora 'Cats' in Asia come with full length sunroofs. Looks like the UK has lost out there - along with a price tag that's twice the normal 😆
That is the tarrifs for you
Full length sunroof is such a pain in the ass during summer time. You have to use cheap clip-on sun-screen to avoid being toasted like a bacon.
@@constantineding8700 They have built in sun protection. No heat goes through at all.
@@phuketexplorer UK weather is horrible, almost always raining so they don't need a sunroof
@@Blue2024_rs The UK doesn't receive anything like we have during the wet monsoon season - which is now untill mid December. 😉
Could we get some discussion of aftermarket care with these small brands. Whilst the product now looks good, should I be concerned in 5 years when I need to replace a brake disc, wheel bearing, wiring loom or whatever?
Yes also if you try to order the parts from China they might send you a miniature version on a keychain.
They are using a local importer and servicer so parts shouldn't ever be an issue. Gwm is a massive company so they won't disappear in China and probably use many similar parts among their various brands. Of course the importer makes the cars way more expensive outside china. But servicing and parts not an issue.
It looks great but (I'm sorry about the but), is it affordable? i.e. can the average UK person afford it? All these new EVs are great, but most of them seemed to be directed at the luxury end of the market. Affordable family EVs seem to be few and far between. Also the lid of the boot is tiny, a hatchback boot would be more practical.
3:36 looove this 😂
- mom can we have Porsche at home?
- we have Porsche at home.
- Porsche at home:
What??
i think the inspiration for this is actually a bugatti 4 door concept. interior too
the EB112
Looks a very nice car, my only gripe is that the wheels look tiny. Up the wheel size a little bit and it would be much better.
Nice looking motor! It has style and sleekness with a friendly face!
6:41 saw that car yesterday and yes, I have an issue with that charger. too close to armrest. if you just want to rest your hand and play with these controls your phone is just disrupting the flat space.
Love everything except that side sculpture line thing. Great makeover Jack - suits you.
I love the look of it.
Me too! 😊
My 2018 Skoda came with a cup holder insert to hold a phone vertically. No phone we have in the house fits, it's too narrow. I'd be nervous of any phone slot that shape.
Lederhosen 😂 great review!
It depends on the final specs and price, but the ID.7 or Ioniq 6 look like the better choice for now.
Yep, No price, no comparison.😊
Yes, far too early to make a comparison
Those are bigger and more expensive
@@EdgarRenje Ioniq 6 have similar lengh( 191 in) is lower and lighter that this car. The ID.7 is 4 inches bigger, but it also has a bigger battery than this. So it just depends on personal preference.
What is the official price of this car for the UK market? I can't find one.
Price and availability will be important. An ora needs to undercut an ionic 6. The ora is more of a looker for my money but the ionic will hold its value.
I don't think I could ever buy a Chinese thing for a Porsche. When you buy a Porsche, you are buying the heritage and history of Porsche; you can't replace that!
THAT! phone charger is brilliant!
Hi, I've never been a fan of electric cars but I just saw you and the fully charged event. Its been a mind changing experience and I've started to really be invested in the future of cars and how new electric cars can compete. Also I saw the ora and loved it. I enjoyed the show, loved your talk and everyone else's especially Roberts😂
Can you tell us a bit more about why you chose to go to the show if you were not really into electric cars? You sound like someone with an open mind, and the type of person who we need more of! 😀
@@shonunezekiel a couple reasons really, first I love cars no matter what and I'm always interested to see what's coming out in the future, secondly it gave me an insight to what our future could be like especially with the whole 2030 all should have electric car law and actually how we can do it. Finally I just really like Robert Llewellyn
I really like the name, please keep it, and I quite like the styling!
Nice drip Jack, Imma steal that fit for my walk today, maybe the accent too lol! Hey was the Peter Ian joke that his initials were P.I.S.?
Looks great - please come back to Canada in 2024. I am from Canada but will be in Ireland when you are here in 2023
How does it compare to an Ioniq 6?
What a great vid and an interesting car. Apart from the front, which has the charisma of a Ford Scorpio, the rest looks really nice. Having sat in a Funky Cat at last year’s Fully Charged Show, I imagine that the interior feels really plush and full of quality too. I quite like the look of the sides rear and interior, and if the boot was an ok size it would be a really tempting proposition. Unfortunately the boot, shape and size does seems GT like, but it’s not GT quick and I very much doubt it will be GT handling.
What was the music near the end?
Love the bed track
the backlights were inspired by Bentley continental GT, obviously (inside part might be Zagatos)
Nice video! What’s the music @7:20?
Nvm found it - I just wanna have fun by Flint 😀👍
Ahh, you're just taking the Peter Ian Staker-Scarlet now ! If people find the Cat name too funky - they could just rename it the Ora XJ, or XF ... running on genuine XK batteries ...
That cat meowing 😂😂
The car in the top left angle at 4:15 is a Punk Cat. Is it not coming out anymore?
Looks great at this stage. Final car quality and pricing will be key
question about the software in these, is there intrusive "adds" in the infotainment system?
LOL
Of course. If you park in a Tesco carpark, it'll tell you to shop at Sainsbury's.
What?! Jack where was your Cornetto juring the intro?!
Happen to pause the video: perfect still of Jack. Curiously kept on playing and pausing hitting that space bar. EVERYTIME another perfect still ! Our kind would be pleased with one out of ten halfway successful taken photo 😄 - Great job and thanks for the videos!
Great interior.
Can you show the smart #3 when you get the chance?
Joey Tribiani called, he wants his hair back 😂😅
Cool. We should see that in Australia in 30 years then?
It’s a mistake in the description: It’s not BYD brand, it’s GWM brand…
Funkiest thing in this video was definitely Jack's hair!!
It looks decent and that interior looks impressive with frameless doors too but throughout the video, my brain can't help to think that this is just a copycat. What a shame ...
If you put your mind neutral n look at all the cars design n will realized that everyone copied everyone in the same industry and made some modifications to make it an advantage over the other. Shame or working Smart🎈🎈
Well, more competition is always a good thing even if it is still a little bit err 'inspired' by other marques.
Gota say though, watching you get in the back with legs clearly crushed up and then still telling us there's a good amount of space did make me 🤣
😂😆
Long thin things...it's not the length that counts, it's the girth, that's what she said
Got that 90s boy band look there jack!!
Interior is straight out the tvr handbook
I liked the goggling part very lol
Kinda love the name Lightning Cat, but Funky cat sounds like something from saturday night fever
01:36 May I suggest Jack book an appointment on "Queer Eye for a Straight Guy" for a wardrobe makeover? Anyone with me on this one? 🤣😂😅
Yes! Without it, Jack is in danger of slipping into ranks of the sartorial challenged Americans and forget that adult men wear "big boy pants". Save Jack before he appears in American 3/4 length men's Capri pants! Oh the humanity!
You get a like for the intro alone
Somebody HAS to say that at 5:16 you, Jack, are looking very Hollywood Film Star. Slainte!
Very cool!
I think it looks good although i would change the headlight design. When designing any car to be aerodynamic one is somewhat limited when putting design over functionality. This is partly why some people think the Polestar 2 and BMW i4 look better than the Tesla Model 3. The fact the Model 3 is lighter, more aerodynamic, and therefore more efficient demonstrates the company put function before design. I'm convinced as to the value of comparing one car against another in this way. It's human nature i guess..
"Peter Ian Staker? PIS Taker!"
So far I haven't seen anyone commend this great reference in the comments and that saddens me.
Funky Cat looks a bit like a new Mini Cooper from the front?
The funky cat seems to have been what is now the new mini electric. Ora as part of Great Wall motors looks to be part of the spotlight group with BMW.
So…. New mini clubman electric for 2025?
Love the beginning, bit of Hot Fuzz in there although probably been around for a very long time that one. Ora needs to keep the names they have originally not change them for the western markets same goes for BYD with Dolphin, Seal, Seagull, Han. Funky/Ligntning Cat I'll keep calling it Ora, sorry not sorry. Love the little editorial bit in the middle with the google and hearing the editors voice just briefly(or I think it was). Interior has bit of Tavascan with that T shape centre console bit and double door centre console bit where you rest your elbow. Being only 1" shorter than you like the backseat test which I do myself in every car I sit in and this is better than the Dolphin for that test then. Speaking of Tavascan thought FC would have sent you and another host over to Berlin to cover it this year.
Normalize smaller center dash screens in new cars. Not that this one is small(just about pushing the limit of what I'd consider an eyesore) but compared to other EVs at least it's not the size of my PC monitor.
Mr P.I. Staker cracked me up.
Frankly it's an improved Panamera look to my eye. Mind you I quite liked the original too.
You prefer the look of this to the Porsche ? 🤣🤣🤣🤣
It also has hints of BMW from the side with a touch of Jaguar. All up, I like it.👍🏽
Ora's head of design is former Porsche designer Emanuel Derta.
Love your work, Mr P. I. Staker. 😂
Whoever at Fully Charged posted this video, the description is incorrect. The Ora brand is not BYD, it's Great Wall Motors. I'm really surprised at this [INSERT HERE] aka mistake. However, it's a very cool car.
Does it have BYD batteries?🤔
The Volkswagen Beatle called: it wants his headlights back.