Budget AR-15: DPMS Panther Arms Sportical - MuddyTigerOutdoors
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This carbine might just be the most simplistic, straight forward AR on the market. Lightweight barrel, adjustable stock, and a slick sided low profile upper make this rifle the perfect choice for the recreational shooter on a budget.
Semiautomatic action with a 30-round magazine capacity
A2 pistol grip
Includes a 30-round magazine and a trigger lock
Made in USA
16" chrome moly barrel with a Teflon finish
Collapsible Pardus stock
MIL-SPEC single-stage trigger
Railed gas block front sight and an optics-ready rear sight
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his weapon is very very accurate....i have it in 5.56 and 7.62, fantastic, never a problem.....
This IS one hell of a value and I prefer the slick/slab sided ARs anyway. I don't know how DPMS provides such and outstanding rifle at such a low cost but I'm glad they do.
This was my first ar 15 and I love it
I just bought this for my 1st ar15. Thanks for your video on it.
Excellent! You will enjoy it. Make sure you check out the second video in this series so you can get some ideas for mods. Thank you for watching!
-Jacko
i decked mine out spent close to 3 grand on it altogether. my sportical is great after putting full auto carrier and bump stock, drum mags, an eotech red dot new flash hider and new trigger group and its on hell of a rifle and i love it
I bought mine several years ago as a cheap knock around to throw in the truck. Never had a problem with it.
Great video thanks got one today same AR
I got the DPMS Oracle. Mine has everything in this video plus the dust cover, shell deflector, and forward assist.
Great video! Jacko! I love your videos! 👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻
Agreed: The worst thing ( especially in combat) to do with a stoppage is to start hammering on the forward assist.
Dirty, bent, corroded ammo . . .eject it, get on to good ammo and back into the fight.
Mr. Eugene Stoner designed the CAR 15 without a forward assist. Those in 'Nam loved it. The Army with it's decision to change the powder caused problems in the M16 and to resolve those the forward assist was added.
Bottom line, ejecting a bad cartridge is quicker than trying to jam it into a dirty chamber.
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Nice Vid. 16 years earlier I bought the DPMS lo-pro classic with the slab side upper just like the sportical. Other than a bull barrel I think the sportical and the lopro are very similar. Mine has been mostly faultless with exception to the bull barrel gas block coming loose one time. Bull barrel block were not staked. I've run all types of ammo from 223 to 556 from brass to steel and the gun eats everything. I know there are a lot of AR snobs out there and yes some features they point out might be better, might be worse but my "Budget" Lo-Pro Classic is still running strong after 16 years. I'm sure the Sportical will be there too.
I like the colt AR-15
I appreciate your review here and especially the fact that you did a basic field strip. I think all in all this was a good review. Perhaps now that you have likely made some updates and modifications and shot it some, it would be good to do a " Down the road" review and let us know your current thoughts. I have liked and subscribed, well done!
Update:
Now I've subscribed I have seen your follow on video. I like the mods you made and I almost bought the exact same foregrip.
Mine came with a dust cover, forward assist and shell deflector. Bought it for $499 here in Texas.
Was it the Sportical or an Oracle?
Oracle! Bei uns in Deutschland kostet die 899€
Great choice Jacko i heard a lot of good things about DPMS rifles
now the fun begins adding all the hardware !
atb john
Oh yes, I have a few things in mind for this rifle. :)
-Jacko
the mi woodsman & Bushcraft I have the Oracle and it had a quadrail when I bought it... I changed out the stock to magpul, mounted a scope, ordered some angled sights (for backup), and just bought a k2 pistol grip (idk just for looks I guess) and the angled grip... can't wait to go home and work on it
Much appreciated
I picked up the desert tan version today. with my 20% discount, I got it for 400.00 +tax. the hand guard is the upgrade. great little entry level AR. with the money I saved, I picked up some flip-up sights and some extra mags.
btw.... new Sub here.
Heck of a deal! Even for shooters that are more experienced and have more expensive firearms this is still a very nice option. You'll like it a lot, especially once you start modifying it to your likings. Thank you for watching and for the sub!
-Jacko
The pmags are nice... I had 2 and ordered 5 more and they work perfect plus it gives it a badass look
They are definitely a good product. I have never had any issues with any of mine, I have about 10 or 12. Thank you for watching!
-Jacko
As a lefty I appreciate the shell deflector 😂
I own one just like it and don't miss the "load up's" that people think they need, but never use.
Exactly! That's why this rifle makes a lot of sense to me. I appreciate you watching.
-Jacko
I got mine on my birthday i upgraded it quad four handguard red dot scope new pistol grip handle
Nice rifle and review
Thank you!
-Jacko
I have that rifle a long time changed r the Doreen’s to magpul and added a handle to the moe system also added magpul front sight and r reflex rear sight and a found a clamp on bayonet lug to use my n7! Bayonets with it
Changed the For-end to magpul sorry didn’t have my glasses tonight
Now I know why many many sicarios down here are seen patrolling with that particular ar 15
Cause’ it a cheap piece of lead hose, they drilled the sear hole, put the trigger auto sear and, voula, you r ready to spray some contras
They also use a lot of CA wasr 10/63 with the Korean 75 round drums n Romanian top loading ones
o had one of those they made great starting platform for builds.. the lack of forward assist or dustcover is only really need for military use ..cause for us civis we are not being shot at so if we need to clear or clean weapon we have the time..good video
That's exactly my thinking. This rifle is going to be a safe queen for most of its life so I know it'll be fine without a dust cover and I don't plan on getting into any battles anytime soon so no need for a forward assist...lol!
Thank you for watching!
-Jacko
my thoughts were most people want this aftermarket grip..that stock these sights ect..so it made sense to buy this gun and replace with the furniture that i wanted...plus should i down the line want to sell i would replace with the stock parts and hang on to my ""good" parts for later projects
Agreed 100%
blackoracle69 I feel like the dust cover is still needed... the forward assist is just for looks on mine because I never use it I clean my gun really good and never fails on me... but the dust cover is still nice to have
sweet! i also have a dpms .. I own the AP4. :) Thanks for sharing,
Nice! I think all of the DPMS rifles are pretty competitive, specially for the price.
-Jacko
MuddyTigerOutdoors And they are produced eight next door to me in St. Cloud Minnesota 😆
Oh really? I was under the impression that they were made in Huntsville, Alabama. Hmmm, I guess I'm gonna have to clarify that in another video. Thanks for bringing that to my attention!
MuddyTigerOutdoors I could be wrong.. but my lower is stamped St. Cloud, MN
I see, they probably make them in 2 different places. Mine is stamped in Huntsville. AL. Either way, good to know. How do you like yours? Any issues so far?
Seems pretty decent for the price. I look forward to seeing how it performs!
Yeah, I've taken it out a couple of times since this video but I can't find a range that will let me record footage around here. Thanks for watching man.
-Jacko
Shoots great
Mine has the dust cover and forward assist.
then you have the oracle.. the sportical has no dust cover, shell deflector or forward assist... i've had a sportical for over 3 years and it's been flawless...
Idk if it’s because i just got mine but it had a shell deflector foward assist and a dust cover
I agree with everything except the trigger. Mine had a gritty trigger with a poor reset.
Thank you for watching!
-Jacko
Great video. I know very little about ARs and you taught me quite a bit. Did you mail order that?
Thank you Bruce. These are pretty cool rifles because of the customization options and even better if the price is right. I got this one at a shop but I'm sure you can order online. Just like with any firearm purchased online, you still have to pass a background check (unless you have a CCW license) and have it shipped to an FFL dealer.
-Jacko
This is not my first AR but budget wise I couldn’t pass it up and it give me something to do as far as building it the way I want. As it comes out the box very reliable.
I have already changed the furniture but my plans are, trigger group, BCG only when it bovine necessary (fairly good group as it is now), and then after I wear out the barrel replace it with a treated barrel ( not doing chrome lined). Other than that not going to take it any further. Because of its entry level status, there comes a point of demising returns and at that point I’ll keep this one and buy a next level AR as I find myself interested in competition shooting. Seems like that would be fun. In the mean time, I’m just going to enjoy the hell out of this one.
The only thing that gets me i some tend to hate because of the fact that this barrel isn’t chrome lined. I’ve listened to many gunsmiths with great credentials (not just the people who are not gunsmiths) and they said that this barrel should be a joy for what I do at this point and they also believe that chrome lined barrels tend to have issues later of flaking. So I just let them hate. I do understand that a better alternative is a treatment (the name slips my mind right now) that actually changes the makeup of the chrome moly and provides great lubricity and it not another layer of material lining the boar. That’s probably the way I’ll go.
In either case I’m enjoying this “entry” level rifle and by the time I do meat that point of diminishing returns, it’ll no longer be an “entry level” rifle!
Thanks for highlighting my rifle
RF85 may be the treatment that you were thinking of. From what I understand, it heats ceramic atoms and places them in the metal.
Great channel!!
I need some advice I’m new to rifles was hoping
Which rifle is a better rifle..
DPMS panther GII SASS .308
As AR10 M5E1 .308
Thank you
I have that gun I love it n this video
Thank you for watching!
-Jacko
The forward assist makes a problem worse ime…
Hello can the muzzle brake be removed ?
I have the same l-car with the dust cover and little extras , got it for 500$, palmetto state armory has it online. Great video, the gun shots great , mag isnt hard to get in and out. P.s. I got a CMS drop in trigger 3.5 pounds and it has made a huge improvement .
My a15 lite is made in st cloud Mn
do you know of a forward grip that works with the glacier guard?
had mine for almost 8 years I haven't shot it a lot at once after 8 years of ownership I have I think around 10k rounds through it. I have better ARs now but I have no complaints about the dpms as far as reliability, the aluminum gas block is the only thing you need to keep an eye on, you should try not to do mag dumps back to back. other than that its a good budget AR.
I agree on the aluminum block, i don’t plan on doing any mag dumps or taking this rifle to Benghazi style combat si I think it’ll be ok. Great economical rifles for sure! Thank you for watching.
-Jacko
I've always been told you dont need a dust cover or forward assist until you need it so I only buy them with them
People crap on DPMS and I just don't get it. I have 2 and don't feel the need to spend any more. The only thing I don't care for is the octagonal gas block. Kind of ugly.
Where to order magazine..tanx
Panther Love it - Runs Great after 800 rounds not a flaw . Not Spotical !
Mine has those things yours dont have?
Just barely got one today haven't shot it yet
Awesome! You'll like it. Thank you for watching!
-Jacko
MuddyTigerOutdoors. Haven't shot it yet
i have the exact same one at home. I want to put a suppressor on it. what do you suggest ? Would i have to swap out the flash-hinder?
Not entirely sure but you may have to swap the entire barrel for a treaded one. Not to mention the required tax stamp from the government. It’s quite a process.
Thank you for watching!
-Jacko
@@muddytigeroutdoors4790 ok thanks. i will research if barrell is threaded or not and go from there.
I have to shoot left handed. For those of you that shoot from the left side, I like my DPMS ORICAL very much. I plan on getting another and for 448 dollars it's a great deal. At 40 yards 3/8 of an inch. I'm from Alabama so I was looking for the HUNTSVILLE made.
It is the final arrival, no question about it. Specially for the price. Thank you for watching!
Sorry for the typo. I meant to say it is a fine rifle.
MuddyTigerOutdoors my husband wants one of these. Where can I get one for the price you said? Thx!
Jeanette Thomas Shoals Out Doors. Tucumbia Al. put a good rail on it. HE WILL LOVE IT.
Jeanette Thomas Their number is 256 389 8150.
I just got one two but mine came with a dust cover and a forward assist
Maybe different model or maybe they updated this model. Who knows...
Thank you for watching!
-Jacko
Is the forward assist a must have? I might be buying one soon.
Not necessary unless you’re planning on doing hard prolonged combat.
SHE who cashes my retirement check gave the OK to get one. It works just fine for my needs at range and otherwise. The challenge was to get a red dot optic costing less than rifle which I did with discounted one via gunbroker.com. Not having dust cover or forward assist has been no problem.
I got one just like it I gave700.00 dollars at Walmart I've had it for awhile.
Forward assist...I have NEVER understood forcing the bolt forward because of a misfire would be a good idea! I have a Bravo company (BCM)...the absolute best you can buy...and I have NEVER used the forward assist. LISTEN to him! If you have ANY malfunction STOP and see what the malfunction is! I don't know why that is still on the gun to be honest...
This here riiiiiiiiiifle. Its a nice riiiiiiiiiifle. Very afordable riiiiiiiiiifle. Lol rifle
Mine would not run steel case ammo at all
Did you try replacing the firing pin? They make one just a little bit longer than the OEM. I've used steel case in mine for nine years and have not had one misfire, failure to feed, or eject. There's also a cheap spring upgrade you can do to the ejector that grabs the shells after firing. Need more specifics to your problem. Doesn't feed, doesn't eject, doesn't fire?
0:47 "5.56 caliber" ..... 5.56 is not a caliber. It is a millimeter.
Lol! That made me life. Keep on trucking bud.
I paid $1000 for mine under the Obama administration, and yes it was the cheapest AR I could get at the time . Also mine did not come with a magpull magazine.
That’s a shame. But we’re back to the same mess again.
thanks for watching!
-Jacko
@@muddytigeroutdoors4790 , unfortunately yes prices are going up again , cheaper to just build one
Lol damn poors