AR-15 Review: DPMS Oracle 5.56mm
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This AR15 is simple but I think this variant shows good quality considering it's budget price point. I would check out a DPMS Oracle if you haven't already done so. - บันเทิง
“AR-15’s are LEGOs for men” one of the truest statements ever. U rock 🤟
DPMS AR-15 Oracle....For most people who want a good home protection rifle, it meets the need just fine. It is reliable, and shoots as well as any other AR-15 I have shot, including Colt, S&W, and Daniel Defense. It is might not be as rugged, or as accurate in tight situations, but overall it meets the basic to moderate AR-15 standards. With a simple red-dot scope or metal sight, it is deadly accurate at 200+ yards.
The Oracle (I have two) is perfect for cheapo home defense. BUT, they also make a perfect platform for customizing. I built up one for CQ shooting and one for distance. They both perform flawlessly, couldn't be happier.
Picked my DPMS Oracle up for about $550 when the market was heavy back in 2017 and honestly I love it. I have had no issues and have only changed to a rail and a red dot. If i knew it was this good and I'd love the AR that much i would have bought 3 at the time. Truly this is a great budget and reliable AR platform. Just my opinion but over 2,000 rounds and still going strong and on point.
Still lovin my DPMS Oracle after about 5 years !!!
Got mine last year (2018) for under $400 with a coupon from Dunhams. Put a red dot scope on it and am ready to go. My first ar and I am happy with it.
Do you know if it has an upper or lower shelf?
Thanks for the great coverage. You showed some stuff that no one else will cover!
Fantastic entry level rife. These are a great foundation for a build. I’ve had mine for 12 years. Through the years I’ve built it up to my needs and wants. Additions like an improved stock and pistol grip. Just recently, swapped out the 16” pencil barrel with a Seekins 18” heavy match Stainless barrel. Added a 15” M-lok free floating rail. I will replace the trigger group with a cassette trigger group. Like I said great rifle. Right out of the box this rifle ran with no issues. It ate whatever I feed it. Nice tight groups. This rifle has been ultra reliable. My so liked it so much, he purchased a DPMS as well.
I think picking up a couple of these or similar makes a great way to arm your neighborhood god forbid SHTF. In fact I buy Hi-Points for that purpose.
LMFAO
Haha there are still plenty of normal guns out there still😂😂😂
You’re gonna give your neighbors guns when shtf?
You realize your neighbors will kill you and take your shit. And thank you for arming them lol
@@adamthomas7250 exactly when shit it’s the fan it’s every family for themselves, Bug out and hit the land
@@Jtizz111 Feasible for a very limited amount of time and not for a family. Unless you have a beastly family.
I have one with about 4000 rounds through it and it still runs great! The only thing I have ever had to do to it is replace the gas rings and clean it. It also shoots sub MOA groups at 300 yards off a bench with Tula Ammo. So I am a big fan of the them!
Reality Survival reading this makes me,feel good. what kind of oil/lube do you use?
Gun Slinger I have used a variety of different products. Rem oil, break free clp, some stiff called interflon and a cpl others that are escaping me right now.
Not a fan of Tula ammo. Yet, your gun still works well with this, so that also says something about the gun.
@METALLIMAN I don't like to diss people on youtube, for there's too much of that already, but a Colt mils-spec M4 is not designed as a sub-MOA gun (mil-spec for this rifle for the US military is 4 MOA). Getting sun-MOA with a budget rifle and garbage ammo? Don't think so
Saw this on sale for $500 a little while back and had to pick it up. Good gun. No issues so far.
i have the same model in 308 and loved it so much, i bought a 5.56 version. no jams after hundreds of rounds so far
Just picked mine up a couple of days ago, ran a mag through it without sights just to see how it functioned and I gotta say it’s pretty decent especially for $430, can’t beat that! Great video and you also sound like Bob Odenkirk from Better Call Saul lol
Thanks for the review. I don’t mind the basic look and functionality.
Awesome vid! Only thing left from my first ar DPMS sportical is the castle nut, lower reciever and trigger. Lesson learned to just build my next ar lol
I bought one of these (pawn shop) it had a quad rail and red dot... I changed out the stock (magpul) added a scope (Nikon) and i love it... I have some angled sights and a pistol grip and bipod waiting to be installed when I get home... I can't wait
I have this AR I threw a 200 vortex scope on it and I love it . It's just a smooth good budget rifle . I would recommend this rifle any day . It is pretty solid . Buy one you won't be disappointed . Its like the Honda Civic of ARs you can't go wrong
I have one and a higher end AR, the Oracle holds up fine even with a lot of rounds through it, a lot of higher end AR are grossly overpriced for what extra you get
I got my Oracle for $380 a few days ago. They're cheap as fuck, but decent rifles. The hand guards are cheap as shit, would always recommend upgrading even to just $40 aluminum ones
Got an optic at WalMart for $40, red dot in 4 colors, 4 brightness, and Magpul backups for $30
I like the fact that you can get three of these for the price of a Saint.
You can't beat the price for these DPMS rifles. Shoot it at the range, home defense or battle front. Same materials as the others, 7075-T6 machined aluminum upper and lower. From a distance you can't tell the difference until you see the stamp on the side. DPMS Warrior, Colt MOE and the Bushmaster MOE look pretty much the same except for the barrels and brand stamp.
Thanks for the post!
Love this video because you have a grasp on reality. :) Most folks will never use this as a combat weapon, ergo it doesn't need to be able to spit out 1K rounds in an hr. I recommend this to folks all the time, especially (as you pointed out) it's the transformer toy for men. :).
I appreciate this review!!
Awesome video! I owned an Oracle 5.56 for three years and had no issues with it whatsoever. If you look around online you can snag em for $499. The gun is a great beginner AR. Only really issue I had was trying to find a low cost iron sight for the low front gas block. Ended up dropping $90 on a Midwest Industries low profile gas block flip up front iron sight and was good to go.
Jbog07 Oh yeah, I've been ordering from SG since the late 90s. I used to buy a bunch of surplus gear from them and I've contemplated buying bulk ammo from them, too.
Grab-a gun.com had them for $399.99 last week any more then that then it's worth building your own from PSA with better specs.
grabagun.com/del-ton-dtsport-collapse-m4-comm-stk.html
I do love my DPMS Panther. Only issue I had with it, was that the mag catch would not grab my old thermold composite mags. Small issue, other than that, was a great carbine to train my daughter on. She's hooked!
Great information. Thanks.
I picked one up for 475 dollars a few months ago. Shoots good, however i did run into a problem with excessive windage needed to zero it in. I tried different sights. Gas block is in proper aligmnent and so is the rear rail. So that leaves an improper barrel index as the problem. Ill contact DPMS and see what they say and if they will correct it.
I bought one free floated it, threw a Vortex Diamondback 3-9×40 on it and it shoots 1-1.5 moa 1500rds in currently
i love mine the only problem for me so far is the magazine that came in mine. it does not fit so imma change it for some metal mags
I just bought 2 of these 399.ea with a 75 dollar rebate witch brings it down to 324.00 each
Chris Mansker where
It is great looking
Picked up one new for $289 shipped to my FFL, after the $50 rebate. I had no need for another AR, but that deal was too good to turn down.
It's a nice budget rifle for coyote's,fox,wolf.... smaller game animals and at close to med range.... 0-450 yards. $$ can upgrade anything and everything!
I actually like the basic look just need some iron sights
I've seen complete PSA lowers and complete uppers onsale armslist cheap to spend less then 400
When I bought mine, it came with the standard A2 m16 style front sight / gas block combo. Any idea why?
Every review I see on TH-cam they come with the gas block we see here in this video.
Great video, I was considering buying this firearm and now I feel comfortable buying it. Quick question for anyone who knows about this gun. Can I put a mid length hand guard on this gun or does the gas block get in the way?
Alec Navarro I just replaced the gas block with a low profile one and put a freefloat hand guard on it, if you don't have the tools to do it yourself, a local gunsmith will be able to for probably around 50-75 bucks, and it's worth it, free floated at-15's are more accurate.
Thanx for the run down.....I'm a hunter but just bought an oracle yesterday as my first AR platform gun. I'd like to go with iron sights...is there any particular brand that you favor, if you don't mind me asking?
seriousfisherman3 magpul flip up is what I just bought for mine
You should make a range videos shooting your ARs you recently got.
I will as soon as time allows. I want to put tons of rounds thru these.
I feel you man, it'll be fun and badass when you do.
I know this is a very old video, but I just scored one of these in a trade. And I've seen a lot of videos on it, mostly old videos since they don't make them anymore, but mine has a chrome bolt carrier group. Could that be factory? Or is somebody put in a mil-spec?
On sale where I'm at for around $450 debated on buying one myself
Im a beginner with actual ARs. I just got a sling but nowhere to attach the front? Do i need to get an attachment?
got mine from Dunn's sporting goods. Dodds and Dunn's that's just a little interesting to me
I own 2 of these. Best low budget AR you can get, then throw a bunch of other stuff on it. I like to have a couple because when you go to the range and your friends wanna tag along, I bring this gun for them to use so they don't touch my higher end guns lol.
Phuong Vo you didn't mention how good it runs next to the higher end. But I bet it holds up well enough.
Dpms 308s are very nice for the buck.
Thank you
I bought this gun because it didnt have sights. (Front sight) its an extra exspense to take it off. Most other budget ar's come with the sight.
Got mine for 450 plus I got got 2 extra mags and enough ammo for
All so over all it was 500-520$ for
Everything brand new from a store that was going outta Business got Magpul ironsights and a red dot but it’s been 2-3 years since I got it and it’s about time I change it and start to make it more my style first rifle I got and it’s pretty good but it just doesn’t fit for me and my style of rife but for 400-600$ it’s pretty good for a first time gun
Ugly duckling, what the heck its a great looking rifle.
William Peck I agree! I actually like it much more than the Smith and Wesson or Ruger AR556 due to it not having the front post.
Yeah I agree as well. I think it looks badass. I know people who have these and love em. Only bad I've ever heard is from the Internet. Mr guns and gear puts it thru a seiries of tests, which it passes, but he like insists on trying to find stuff wrong with it.
What is the update??
Any internal upgrades??
Is it possible to change the gas block to an iron sight?
what handrail would you recommend ?
Less than 250 in Huntsville last weekend.
what about that non-same plane front gas block rail? cant really just throw a regular sight on it can you?
I believe that's so you can install a long aftermarket handguard
Rural King has them for around 500 I think
Neat video.....
Any links for the accessories?
I just bought one for $475 at Cabelas.
Can this modified easy to a .300 blackout?
Not worth the trouble. Better to get a new rifle in 300
m4 cuts are great but only needed for full auto i jave had mine for 8 years only malfuntions have been from a bad mag i had
It's all I've got, and I love it.
im just looking for a decent AR to use for defending myself and my wife and using it to light up coyotes on my homestead. what do you think about AR Pistols?
Better rifle with better specs for $399.99
www.primaryarms.com/anderson-manufacturing-am15-with-fixed-front-sight-am15
The Green Man thank you for the suggestion
Can you shoot. 223 if yours is chambered in 5.56?
YES
Why did you get this if you are just going to put it down
BCG gas key bolts actually look to be a bit "overstaked". When the bots are staked to the point that the bolt head is deformed (they sort of appear to be from the video) they can cause the metal of the bolt to become brittle, and you don't want the bolt screw to snap off. This could seriously ruin your day.
I'm not an AR snob. I have many, including a DPMS that I upgraded. I didn't hear it in the review, but you cannot use irons on this rifle without some doing. The railed gas block sits quite a bit lower than the rails on the receiver, so irons WILL NOT line up. You will need to purchase a special high profile front sight, along with a standard rear sight. The gas block is also made of aluminum, while the barrel is steel. Steel & aluminum expand and contract at different temps, resulting in gas leaks/gas loss. It is fine considering it is a budget rifle.
I ended up removing my gas block and replacing with a low profile gas block (.750") and added a free floated handguard. Free floating improved accuracy and allowed the use of a standard set of irons.
People bitch about the fact that the DPMS barrel is not chrome lined, but unlined barrels are inherently more accurate. If you're cleaning it after use and maintaining it, you are better off. Chrome lined barrels are good for field conditions, where cleaning may not be done as often as they should be, but the average person will be better off with a non-lined barrel.
Lastly, you cannot just change the stock on a DPMS. The DPMS uses a commercial grade buffer extension, which is larger and uses 6061 aluminum. You will need to get a new receiver extension (buffer tube), but you can get one reasonably priced from Aero Precision made of 7075-T6 aluminum, May as well if you're swapping the stock. The cost of these upgrades can add up, so beware.
I will add the LR308/AR10 from dpms in my opinion and some military contractors is most reliable. Also the dpms LR308 is the only company that has sole rights to the Armlite rights meaning they make a top tear manufactured AR10. People say what you want dpms are not garbage. Throw some magpul furniture on it and you have a good No bullshit AR.
Realistic video. That said however, by the time you change a bunch of stuff out with a decent optic....you've got at least $300 more in it.
what length 2pc quad rail does this use?
Cellis313 you probably figured it out already since its been five months that you have asked this question but I replaced mine with a 6.5" quad rail two piece and it fits perfectly in place of the old glacier hand guard. I would recommend getting a grip to put on the bottom, one that would feel comfortable to you and rubber that goes on the quad guard rails, because when I shot with mine without them, that sucker got pretty warm to hold onto once I shot 60 to 70 rounds through it.
Question are they good for deer hunting?
Yes... In .308 caliber. You can hunt with the .223 version but not much knockdown power.
I say that exact same thing ! "The AR-15 is like legos for men"
the finish on the barrel will turn brown after 6 mag dumps in a row
Finally someones whos checking the spectrums
they are $399 now on slickguns
John Miller I got mine for that price a a Field and Stream
$429 before the $50 rebate
I bought and floated one great rifle but there is no god damn reason ANYONE should not have an AR floated point of impact can shift 10"-12" if the rifle is rested on the barrel.
the only thing i didnt like about mine was the buttstalk that curve is weird
why would u pay $600 for this when a ruger ar556 or MP sport goes for around $650?
These were $399.99 last week from Grab-a-gun.com. I agree they aren't worth much more then that when you can build a much better rifle for the $550.00 Mark.
grabagun.com/del-ton-dtsport-collapse-m4-comm-stk.html
Gander Mt. Price right now is 420 and w/75 mail in rebate = $345. Not too shabby
The Green Man I bought my ruger AR556 and I love it. Granite shoot straight in Clearwater had it for $450 and I paid $600 I still think I got a badass deal. I will buy any ar15 that is affordable
The Green Man Not everyone is interested in building their first AR from scratch believe it or not. I'm not sure what your problem is with DPMS but I've seen MANY videos of Oracle/Sportical owners that absolutely love their rifle and with it being $100-150 less than the Smith or Ruger and not having the awful front sight post I'd say it's a good AR-15. I'm pretty sure all the "budget AR's in the $400-600 range have very similar specs and the ones that aren't, like chrome lined vs non chrome lined and twist rates all have pro's and con's that really don't affect the average shooter that doesn't put 1,000's of rounds down range a month.
The ruger has the front sight. When i bought mine my friend told me it was 100.00 bucks to by a gas block to replace it. I see now there about 60.00 bucks on cheaper than dirts sight
What? DPMS Oracle. I had one at $330.
Just got this on sale for 380$
Id kill to have one but us canadians dont get to have anything cool or fun
Is it or is it not 223 capable as well?
.223 IS 5.56...same round.
Well that cleared things up.
Yes, you can use .223 in any 5.56 barrel, but not the other way around! 5.56 has a higher chamber pressure. Dpms did the 5.56 barrel...a nice touch.
Is 5.56 the same as 223?
No
You can shoot 223 ammo in a 556, but not 556 in a 223. People do it all the time, but you shouldn't. 556 is loaded to a higher pressure than 223, and but shooting 556 ammo in a rifle designed for 223 can cause damage to the firearm and injury to the shooter in the even it fails.
Goin for 500-1300 now.
Just got a new one for $355 plus tax at my local Scheels
In North Dakota... Minnesota?
@@psychopompous3207 South Dakota
Will it shoot 223 as well ?
marcusconz yes
I just bought one. Paid $450 for it.
Looks like an AR-15 to me.
Standard iron sights for an ar-15 will not work with this gun.
$580 you got ripped the fuck off
Just buy a S&W M&p15 sport2 or Ruger AR 556.
americanguy87 got the dpms for 400, the s&w was 520, and you realize that both of those guns have the same lowers, which means they are basically the same gun
If you don't shoot at all and you just need a gun for home defense I'd say go for it, but if you are looking for something to go to the range and shoot more often I'd stay away from this guy. This gun has no chrome line, no melonite, and no CMV on the barrel so you will have to clean it and keep it under clean all the time, and it won't take abuses too well.
Hi-Points are ugly, but pretty good and reliable.
My main issue with this rifle is not the rifle itself, but u can buy a PSA rifle for less than $500 shipped.
Sum Ting Wong my psa for that price broke the extractor after 125 rounds my dpms has served me flawless for 8 years and many crates of ammo
DEMONIC DEFENSE :-(
Sum Ting Wong my psa is great i put a daniel defense extractor in it i figure that will fix that for life
Another great gun for cheap is ati omnihybrid maxx i love it its light and tuffer then you would expect
Better specs and build then the DPMS.
www.primaryarms.com/anderson-manufacturing-am15-with-fixed-front-sight-am15
I somehow found one for $499 in 2021......
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Paid 700 for mine
I just got one for $399
Greg Brown do you know if it has an upper or a lower shelf?
You didn't even fire it, fire it and then tell me why you like or dont like it.
Move on dude
I'd avoid this if you are looking for anything you are going to be putting more then a mag though at any given time, the barrel profile on the Oracle is well.....shockingly thin, they call it pencil profile but it's barely even that, this will heat up quickly, accuracy is basicly gone after one mag, you will see how wide your groups open up.
Basicly, GOVT profile is my chosen standard, and most AR style rifles stay atleast this thick for a reason......on this, it's just to make it cheap, thinner barrel blanks are cheaper and easier to make.
Yourleftnut, I laugh at all these people that talk shit about some of these budget guns like the DPMS. But I don’t think they realize that DPMS is made by Remington. The first thing I noticed with my gun before I bought it, was how tight of a fit there was between the upper and lower. I’ve played hell trying to get any light to shine through it.
You must have gotten a dud or something because my barrel is just fine. Ran about 150 rounds through it under an hour and never had a problem with the grouping or anything.
I'll give you $300 for it.