Can a beginner ACTUALLY learn to draw in 30 days?
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 24 มิ.ย. 2024
- This is a silly little experiment to see if someone who REALLY has no experience with art can learn to draw in 5 hours without following tutorials.
Also, the main reason he didn't follow guides or tutorials is that nobody is going to watch 5 hours of a guy reading tutorials. Probably. Unless?
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00:00 - Intro
01:06 - How it started
05:27 - THE BIG PROBLEM
07:34 - Drawing from Reference vs Imagination
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As someone who is hopeless at math, Rinke’s method for boxes is actually the coolest way I’ve seen someone figure out drawing boxes.
Omg for real. As someone who went to grad school for math and loves drawing anime… I am literally going to do the boxes from angles in the Cartesian coordinate system exercise. Dot grid notebooks are perfectly coming in handy for this!
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fun fact, before 3d modelling programs, that was the only way for u to make a 3D model using math and code. He is doing the equivalent of using ancient magic in a modern program
Rinke is built different. Give him enough time and he can draw the 9th dimension
He's like batman.
You just need to give him enough prep time
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EXACTLY WHAT I THOUGHT HAHA
Bro is really from a different breed.
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4:47 DUDE LITERALLY SAID "THAT'S RIGHT, WE'RE DOING THE MATH NOW"
ya this is how I think will doing it
I started doing that for a perspective drawing I wanted to draw inside of a blueprint I made for a fictional city square, but like a lot of things I start, I didn't get anywhere near finishing. I probably haven't gone back to it since the day I started it.
Tbh, I am totally with him on that. Maths are always useful.
a lot of peoples actually try to do that, but whith experience and eye training they stop using it
Seeing a math enthusiast's approach drawing is the funniest shenanigans I've seen in a while. I swear, you could set up a whole social experiment to see how different professions affect how people approach drawing.
😂 YES I was dying laughing whenever a new technique was brought up.
indeed would be a great social experiment. Put it in different cultures and we have some primordial soup like results tbh xD
I love that they did math to resolve the perspective issue. Great man.
Maybe he should try out (if he isn't already) graphics programming, considering his perspective grid-thinking.
The aproach he took for the boxes makes a lot of sense if your background is maths
Yeah if I ever properly learn how to draw, I'm definitely doing it like this lol
yeah same Rinki actually made me understand perspective
Not looking at tutorials seemed bad from a efficiency perspective but finding out what he would do on is own is reaaally interesting
Yeah, seems like he was sabotaged a bit. But there are plenty of people who want to draw but aren't smart enough to seek advice and tips.
Tho this dude seems really smart, he figured out functional solutions to problems real quick.
The fact that it’s actually only two days makes the growth more impressive to me. Because so much of learning a complex skill is shifting conscious effort into the unconscious, the spacing of practice over the course of a longer period of time is more meaningful than people realize.
100% agree. A big part of increasing a skill is not just practicing the skill but your brain processing in between practice times.
Yep, the results would be significantly different (better) if he had slept a night between each session.
Yea, I think letting what you do simmer and sink in works wonders. Obviously upping 10 min practice up to 30 or 1h is going to speed up your process. And when you really are feeling it, going for hours is even better. I think the minimum is the most important, so you never let "rust" accumulate.
Exactly this. Sleeping causes what you’ve learned that day to be internalized,
thru the fusion of newly formed connections in the brain.
Pewdiepie had ~30 nights of that advantage applied to his journey.
15 if you account for absolutely terrible sleep scheduling. Rinke had 1-3.
5hrs of drawing divided by a 30-day schedule,
is beginning to look like a viable amount of time/effort to put into the craft as a hobbyist.
@@LarryMonteforte Man, this sounds like working out. You destroy the muscle during the workout, and the actual growth happens during recovery afterwards. This makes so much more sense to me now. Artistic hypertrophy. Thank you!
i think 2 days for all this practice actually makes it a lot different from 30 days of practice. with 30 days even if you are only getting 10 min a day you’re getting time to sleep everyday, which is usually super important in the learning process. I still think the amount learned in the 5 hours across two days is really impressive and some of his ideas are really smart but i feel somehow that he’d be even better in an actual 30 day long set up
100% agreed, an extended period of time really matters.
learning an instrument works the same. you can practice 4 hours a day for two days, but you won't improve as much as practicing one hour a day for a week.
(plus, doing it for longer lets you think about drawing even when you're not drawing)
Absolutely, this was my thought as well.
Yes I agree, with 30 days you're basically learning to draw by spaced repetition which is proved to be one of the best ways to memorize anything. And also Pewdiepie was always drawing the same thing, cute anime girl faces.
I'm a bit confused, wasn't this an actual 30 day set up? I've re-watched the beginning so many times for a set up information and scanned through the video. but the only thing I can go off of is the day counter at the top. So was this not really 30 days? it does display different days. leading up to 30 days. where did you get that it was fit into just 2 days?
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This guy is an anime main character bro. Only they would think of using MATH to draw art lol
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I'M FR GOING TO USE HIM AS INSPIRATION FOR A CHARACTER I'M CREATING-
Tbf Rinke would do really well in technical drawing if he wanted! My prof works as an architectural designer so mathing can be advantageous for learning perspective. If anything, I think the experiment solidified that anybody can learn to draw if they really put the effort. Great vid as always!
Incredible progress! And honestly the approaches he takes are unique
"Drawing like a child" is quite literally how we all start regardless of age.
It's not that its childish- but it's our own baseline motor and observation skills at work.
(Love the tigers)
(and the Shaun at "day 9" made me chuckle, ty editor)
It looks like there's drastic improvement, considering line confidence, line weight, overall shape composition. Far beyond beginner imo. The difference is that Pewds only drew 3/4th portraits and Rinke did a gauntlet of many different subjects.
If Rinke did a 2nd phase like Pewds, he'd probably be better at drawing many different things.
When you are to overqualified for your job... 4:46
11:18 When you dont understand teacher method to solve the equation, and in response, make your own.💀
True and relatable by the way, that's how i pass every my math exam.
I like your funny words magic man
I've always thought the 10 or 15 minute "limits" were never meant to be hard rules, but as a way to get you started for the day. Some days 10 minutes can feel like an hour, other days it feels like a second. For the former you can just stop then since you're likely not having fun, and the latter you can keep going because you're probably enjoying it!
That is true actually. The 10 minute rule is based off a productivity trick that focuses more on STARTING something and going from there. Starting usually is the hardest thing for a lot of people, so the low stakes time helps get people going on good days and for bad days they at least can tell themselves they did SOMETHING.
...I honestly thought that was obvious until this video. lol
[then again I've binged a TON of productivity videos alongside art]
there's something just so endearing about the "looks like a child drew it" completed image... it really does look like a child drew it, but for some reason I like it anyway
Well, that's totally accurate though. Children don't have well trained fine motor skills, eye to hand coordination, or proprioception. Just like an adult beginner artist wouldn't.
It took artists thousands of years to figure out how perspective worked. Bro just maths it into existence!
Jokes aside, this is why everyone should learn art. Different minds process things in interesting ways and that is a cool contribution to processing the world around us as artists.
Developing the math required for that also took thousands of years. He had a significant advantage having already learned analytic geometry.
bro reinvented the math they use for 3D rendering to draw cubes. Huge respect o.O
Dude has some serious talent in observing. Like I’m serious. At day 13 he was able to draw such accurate ducks despite only started drawing. Yes, even with reference that is impressive. He’s able to make really good observation and is pretty good at comparing landmark. I think he really does have it inside him.
That or he’s really good at ducks.
I thought he could find out where he went wrong if he traced the drawing at 9:30, then compared, and corrected the original. And then redrew it.
He'd find all his mistakes and places he needs improvement right away.
His approach to perspective is very reminiscent of what artists did during the Italian Renaisance.
Edit: I agree with the more accurate descriptor of "drawing from memory"
"5 hours over 30 days" and "5 hours over 2 days" are actually wildly different things. Your brain has more time to process what you've learned when you space your learning out more.
Yeah I always hear consistency is the most important thing, 2 days isn't very consistent
@@LoveYourself-318 And PewDiePie watched tutorials, read manga, and watched anime, so he also had some amount of that to learn from also, so that's another major difference.
Rinke's box drawing method blew my mind, and shows how differently people perceive the same task. Congratulations my friend, you did a fantastic job!
As someone who works in the same industry as Rinke and also mainly a math student, i can say my art journey is quite similar in learning to this video. I actually tried drawing for a 100 days after seeing the pewdiepie video. Prior to this i had some experience in 3d software and video editting from school class but never drawing. It took me awhile to learn the programs and the hotkeys, i also did a lot of measurements but instead of a box i did it with an action figurine. I held it in my arm and noticed like oh if i rotated it 45 degrees the proportions of the hallmarks are relatively the same but the shapes are different and if i go further than that then certain body parts begin to distortion and take a larger proportion. I've already passed the 100 day mark and made a short animation video recently which is the result of those 100 days from more or less winging it.
I found oriday's video about the "blind" method really useful. It's called The Fastest Way to Improve Your Art in 1 Hour.
After 5 days of using it my progress has been phenomonal. Even if it's drawing one character from memeory.
Didn't actually follow his instructions one to one, just the general gist of tracing a piece of work, using reference, drawing blind, and repeating those 3 steps 3 times. That ended up more like 5 hours if not more.
Tho I think the general approach of that would help anyone anywhere.
I used to draw a lot as a kid, haven't drawn in years and I'm 33. Was inspired by PewDiePie's videos and decided to try a 30 day challenge myself. On Day 27 and although I can see improvements, it is not a staggering difference visually, but there is a difference in terms of how I actually "see" things now and how I try to approach drawing something from "memory." I still suck ass at perspective though and I always have lol Idk what to do to improve on that. It's really fun if you don't have expectations I think. Just happy to be drawing and getting better little by little. I want to create manga so I'm learning to draw to be able to storyboard better in order to better collaborate with a legit manga artist hopefully in the future
When I heard at the end she said it was 5 hours over two days, it seemed like a pretty big flaw. For me at least, having time to let my brain process things and sleep it over feels like half my growth. I started a few months ago but I'm basically in the same boat as you. It'll be different for different people of course, and it was cool to see someone else starting from scratch, so I don't think it detracts much (if at all) from the video. That was just the thing that stood out the most from my own experience so far. Your goal to storyboard and collab with (other) artists sounds awesome!
I had fun drawing in school, cause I never saw what others drew on the net. Then after graduation I did, and never drew, outside of anatomy studies, ever again. No fun if what you do is total crap in comparison. Why even try wasting years along the line, just to be still worse than all those who were better before or younger ones that have the free time?
@@CounterfittXIII I mean if you look at it from another perspective then it is highlighting that practicing your butt off without thinking much doesn't help all that much + you do actually learn during downtime. Oftentimes newer artists stress way too much over practice and start getting super nervous if they miss a few days
Tbh I think closing one eye might help you understand perspective a bit more! Not being able to see out of one eye myself gave me an easier time than some of my peers.
@@CounterfittXIII For me it also seemed a flaw that she denied him instructions and the like as well. Only a few people learn to draw without any guides or some sort of teacher - even if it's a lecturer from youtube videos.
rinke's method at understanding how boxes worked ASTONISHED me! genuinely one of the coolest (and impressive) ways ive ever seen
Never in my life that i have thought that you will have to use math in art. I was proven wrong! One of the coolest ways to understand boxes. Hats off to you, Rinke!
OMLLL I LITERALLY THOUGHT OF DOING THE MEASURMENT THING WITH BOXES TOO WHEN I STARTED DRAWING BOXES 😭😭😭😭😭
LIKE HAVING THE PRESICE MEASUREMENTS IS SUPER CONVENIENT OKAYY
THIS!! T.T
I feel like having some kind of mathematically ideal blueprint makes stylizing and pushing the physical boundaries to their extremes much easier (especially well done in spiderman media imo) TuT
So glad I'm not alone with this
This was interesting & it was fun seeing his line of thought as time went on, but changing the timescale changes the whole experiment.
Having multiple drawing sessions in the same hour for multiple hours is a very different experience than just having 1 short session a day. What you've shown in how much you can improve if you have 3+ hours a day to practice.
This was such a cool video! Your partner made amazing progress and had such smart ideas!
Rinkie mastered prespective!! BILT DIFFERENT
I've been watching drawing videos all day and this one has been my favorite! Awesome work ^^
so interested in this, please do keep posted if this experiment continues
This was pretty cool! Thanks for sharing this.
Your channel is so fun and I love that every new video is a complete surprise and always a good one!! Seeing the perspective of someone that's starting from 0 hours & from a non artistic background was extremely insightful! Thanks for creating these videos 🥹🩷
I would love to see a tutorial from Rinke on his approach to boxes. I feel like it could improve my boxes and understanding of perspective even if I fail to memorize all that math. (I should probably know that math already but I have just finished my degree and have zero energy left to calculate that myself).
I love this video and your partner. Seeing how different people think and getting this kind of insight in a very different style of learning and thinking is so wonderful and wimsical.
Thank you for this
I totally see where he’s coming from though. I used to do this method called gridlining, where you put a grid over your reference photo plus your own artwork and try to copy the coordinates. I still measure a lot in fixed distances in my head, if you will.
Rinke did such a good job! The progress is visible and every drawing is very charming)
An artist using the dreaded math? HERESY! In all seriousness though this was a super interesting experiment and I think his improvements are actually quite large even in just a couple of days. Also the fact he learned all this without any help or tutorials is even more impressive. I think even the most newb of artists will probably try to find some kind of helpful tutorial, drawing book, or literally anything to help them figure things out. Him figuring out how to draw from reference had to have felt like a huge weight off his shoulders while drawing and I don't really get the math on the rubix cube but if it helped him understand then it was worthwhile.
I feel like 'secret' behind Pewdiepie's huge leap in art is his passion.
He cared about the quality of end result and he was drawing things he was truly interested in (his wife, cute anime girls and manga characters he liked)
part of learning art is also consuming art, which pewdiepie did a lot. he drew a LOT from reference done by other artists, and was able to copy their techniques.
speaking from experience, the more you study other art, the better you get at doing art. like, sometimes you can only get so far from life and reference; sometimes it REALLY helps to see how an artist represents something. and then you apply it to something original, and you get something really cool.
Pewdiepie copy more from reference while Rinke mostly learn how to make confident lines and how to do better perspective and learn to draw more thing while Pewdiepie only draw cute girls lol so if u draw the same thing for 30 days u would get good at it while Rinke draw many things for 30 days u only making small progress but it apply to all the thing u learned in this case his confident lines his boxes blah blah
He's also has more free time than the average person along with a history in the arts.
@@meat2023everyone has 30mins in their day cmon now
10:21 this is so true. I can get a reference for a jacket to put it on an oc and suddenly I notice the drawstrings have a pattern, or when I’m drawing a character and suddenly I notice the different colours in their eyes. It’s so cool
i think drawing everyday for 10 min is important for the experiment
because you sleep and try to remember what you did yesterday
it would feel more natural like a routine
like sleeping and eating
and when you feel like drawing more than 10 min a day thats the gain
well thats what i'm trying to do
Another great video! I think a mathematical approach to art (or at least perspective) is probably weird to some, but what little I know about art history would suggest that it's not necessarily uncommon. The most obvious person who comes to mind is Da Vinci.
Had to stop the video halfway because FELLOW LEFTIE - you don't see many of us in the wild that made me happy.
I personally draw as a little party trick, I think at this point I can draw and another person can clearly see the idea I am going for. I would like to improve though because I'm slowly gaining an interest in character design and I can't really express my bigger ideas with my style so I've been watching for a couple months now!
Love the videos, keep up the good work! 👍👍
so Rinke's first attempt in drawing resulted in a spread sheet!!! love the video
I feel like his skillset leans towards architecture rather than character design, landscape, etc because he is so math minded. I am very impressed!
I might try out art soon since my school holiday (60 days) are coming in like 2 months and you are really motivating me to start and try art
Love this! Bro reinvented perspective! I would love to see how he handles construction.
man this video brought me back to my childhood with those drawings and I mean it in the best way possible
Rinke low-key reminding me about my theory that the bulk of artists who don't go into art end up in the medical field. (PS. You should have him look up the guy who started doing full art pieces in Excel, Horiuchi Tatsuo. Might be inspiring for him. ovo)
Great first steps, I admire his courage! Rinke could turn out to be a great sculptor too. His block -> shape and leaning on mathematical concepts could work well in that medium, be it digital sculpting or otherwise. I hope he continues to explore art and you both grow together.
Hi your video got recommended to me but just passing by to say that model is amazing, love it!
ngl been in an art funk his little owl drawing kinda sparked some inspiration outta me! boutta draw it!
11:38 his mindset and method is actually similar to something i saw in a book called "The Complete Guide to Illustration & Design Techniques and materials"
This is amazing, i have so much respect for this man.
Memorizing coordinates to figure out perspective instead of, y'know, learning perspective is wild.
I consider myself fairly far on the end fo the analytical/intuition spectrum, but I never would have even thought of doing that. Sure it is technically possible and if you interpolate between different (similar) perspectives it should be pretty granular, but it still feels like you skip over an important part of actually understanding what you are doing and might strugle again when you try to apply the same concept to a different shape than a box?
Obviously great tool if it allows Rinke to start drawing something and after more (hypothetical, doesn't sound like he will keep going?) enough repetition discard the crutch, because he learned it by osmosis, but wild to even consider it.
Perspective is some of my biggest weaknesses and all I've learnt about it is mathematical stuff I calculated to understand... Serious question now: How do you learn perspective when not by doing the math?? Any advice/recommendations on that would be very much appreciated!
I feel like being slowed down by having to mathematically undergird EVERYTHING... It helped a lot with my coloring skills (but honestly that's my strength and fav topic so it's easier for me to learn about; A few months ago I even delivered a 45mins presetation about different color models and their mathematical background and the "theory" of chosing colors bc my teacher asked me to 😬) as well as understanding composition but I feel like it hinders my growth in terms of perspective ;_;
@@L0rar3 perspective is all about spacial awareness which is trained by practicing and visualizing objects in a 3d space. If you want to draw a human figure, you will have to figure out how to draw the human form with cubes and cylinders. You must be aware of the horizon line and how the vanishing points work. There are videos out there, but to put it simply , you have to think in 3d and not "where the next line goes"
From my own experience measuring proportions and perspective through math is the only thing I could’ve done to improve. I have aphantasia, so visualizing things in 3D is a no-go for me. Instead of visualizing the image I’m forced to analyze and observe the properties of it, then recreate the object based on those properties. It’s kind of like a computer creating something through the code it was given. In this case, I am both the programmer (seeing what environmental traits affect the object and measuring how it affects the object) and the computer (redrawing the object under the effect of the environment).
If he’s going to draw non-cube objects, he would probably draw a cube around it (like how a hitbox in games wrap around objects), transform the cube based on the camera’s FOV, then draw the object within that cube using the 20/40/50% method for proportions he used in the video. That’s how I “visualize” it, and it works. Only drawback is that it’s conscious thought intensive. But what else could I do for a person with aphantasia?
Ngl tho, I was shocked to see my own method of measuring perspective here. I thought nobody else did that…
@@Rick-rl9qqI'm one of those people who physically can't visualize things in a 3d space and has to math it out to rotate it so like yeah
I have been drawing for a LONG-ASS time though so it's more intuitive than before but I still can't just go into my head and use that
Though I've also acknowledged this means if I don't put all my heart/soul/time into it I'm not gonna get that great at art
I had an interest in drawing when I started 3 months ago, and I'd say I managed to make some stuff I'm pretty happy with. I've done at least one doodle a day anywhere from 20 min to an hour and I'm glad I kept it up. Videos like this one are inspiring.
Well now I want a tutorial for that numeric based box drawing system lol
thank you for hilariously documenting Rinke in the way of "lets give him a task and see how he does it." he sounds like an interesting creature. xD
Darn it! The ending was too adorable with the mess ups XD
Wow I see big improvements! Im currently doing a 100 day challenge. Really interesting to see someone actually start as a beginner
I am soo onboard w/ the whole co-ordinate grid idea thing
There is a massive, massive, MASSIVE difference between drawing for 5 hours over a span of 2 days, and drawing for 10 minutes per day over a span of 30 days. The rest time is as important or more than the study time. Fatigue starts to creep in, even if you're the type of person who draws for relaxation, and fatigued work will never be as good as relaxed work. Taking a break between drawing sessions allows the student to decompress, and the lessons to settle in.
This is why, for example, when I train someone at work, I'll run them ragged for 1 week, then back things off and let them just coast for the 2nd week. You need that decompression period to learn properly.
His ability to just move on from drawings he didn't like puts Rinke ahead of the curve compared to most artists I know (including me). Honestly, that particular ability feels like the hardest to pick up!
So this was actually him learning to draw in 2 days? Kinda goated ngl.
Yes, yes they can. It depends on time invested and approach and just what level exactly is the goal, but most likely yes.
Many people are familiar with some concepts used in drawing from previous experiences in their lives. I remember my physics classes in like 7th grade having detailed explanations of how shadows and light reflections work. I also had perspective covered by school classes at some point. I'd often forget tools like rulers for geometry classes so I'd end up practicing arm control for a pencil use. During the breaks some of the guys in the class were legitimately entertaining themselves by competing in drawing the best circles by hand(!!!!)
Many people have already developed some of the basic skills needed to draw. They just need to apply them.
As a mathematician I sometimes have this grid structure as well. If I draw something with a strict perspective it really helps. I didn't memorize all of the proportions though.
Dude improved more in 13 days than me in 2 months, great!
i dont think his cube math is much different from us dividing a guy into 8 segments or cutting a head in half to find the eyeline, id definitely let him cook with that one, seems like hes getting somewhere
Love the video but doing it over 2days is definetly quite different, sleep and time is what allows a lot of the learning to happen and to become muscle memory. Still interesting ofc, but you can't cram stuff like drawing or playing an instrument in a single day and compare it to spread out practice
As someone who is quite good in basic math, this also how I check my proportions, I believe we all do it but in a more abstract way not using numbers
To be fair, it's not out of the question for some artists to view things in a mathalical way. Leonardo Da Vinci actually was very math oriated and a lot of his art is done through obversation and math depending on what he was working on. (That's why they are known as "renissance men" during the Renissance because said artist would be known to have the understanding of every field because it's their love of learning and discovering that put them in that position), So I'm not even upset that Rinke's method because I figured "Oh, he's one of those people that would apply math to art, okay, cool. That's actually really valid as that's how some artists process the shapes and whatnot." I'm going to go even as far to say, you can argue grid transfering is actually a mathiacel way to get a reference image bigger. Maybe what he should probably do to practice porportions more is actually try the grid method so his mind could actually process it better. Perspective is also pretty mathalical as well (Discovered in the Renissance as well through mathical means as well. Reason why the vanishing points lines are the way they are because it was done with math.)
Though I do feel like the experiment didn't do as well as you were hoping because the lack of "lesson" you gave him. Unless he specificly told you he didn't want to have any lessons. If a person isn't artisticly incline it probably help in teaching the bear basics (Point, shape, line, and put in space and perspective in there to start them out with) and then work to their strengths. Math inclined people would understand better if you put it in mathalogical terms. You suggeting him drawing pokemon was a start though and brought him to the right direction because it gave him a way to process shape and form where he feels less fustrated and understand the boxes his way. But he got to that point pretty well so I wouldn't hyper focus too much on it. Maybe in the future you guys should try the experiment again but leaning into his tenecies for math and it may go smoother.
It was super interesting that he figured out functional alternatives on his own. Tho yeah he was sabotaged a bit in that way.
And at 9:30, if he traced the original piece, then compared and corrected the original. And then redrew it he'd quickly find out his flaws and mistakes. And he could draw from memory to see how much of those notes stuck. - this is the bare bones from oriday's video about 'blind' method. Trace, reference, imagination, repeat till you got it.
Haha, I just did that the past week and I learned a ton from doing that 3 times. Still a bit amazed how easy it was.
I think you can improve a surprising amount as a total beginner, but it requires putting consistent amount of hours weekly and well structured materials. Like with perspective you can spend ages reinventing the wheel or just have someone explain you in detail that in order to draw a box in 3-point perspective you just have look for the Y inside the box and have other edges taper towards where those lines point towards.
Really cool video!
I used to be good at math and enjoyed it, but I basically stopped doing it entirely after highschool. I really really want to understand and try Rinke's math method as it seems really cool.
I think it would be fun to teach him to draw himself and you in that styles you showed here! Or how to do a little 3 panel comic or something. It would be like having little action figures and a playset and might spark some fun ideas for him. Having to draw a 3 panel joke comic in 1st grade changed my life forever haha
That really was a interesting video!
I really enjoyed it bc i saw the way that most people in theirs childhood used to draw.
When we were kids, like, really young XD, we just draw whaterever we want and whatever the way we want, and that's exactly what Rinke just did, solving the box issue with math. Like, maybe we just saw a lot of references to solve the same problem as kids, bc it was the way that we think was better, but maybe another kid (like Rinke) just solved it in another way that really is unexpected :D Fascinating
We need to see what he continues to do! He is pushing the boundaries of how we comprehend drawing as a whole; and vindicates my desire for more vector programs / 3D programs to have SolidWorks features like tangents, parallels, and perpendicularity. XD
Not to mention it's an easy TH-cam video name: "My partner invented a new way to draw"
Then the thumbnail is something you draw with just "Math" written our (or the "it's all math? Always has been" meme)
But also someone please tell this man that all art can be seen and built out of simple geometry like circles, squares, triangles. I can't begin to explain how much that revelation improved my art and ability to comprehend proportions. Or as Trent Kaniuga says "We will start by drawing the fundamental building block of the universe -- basketballs"
Bro is a god for being able to relate it to another hobby so early. I love him already
My man got the math into the art, legend! I do a similar thing with angles, proportions and negative spaces.
That sort of mathematical approach is pretty necessary in understanding advanced perspective afaik. Don’t be too scared art students, it’s nothing too bad once you break it down
"It looks like a child drew it"
I know this pain too well.... I'm still to this day trying to cure myself of this artistic disease.
Ngl it was pretty cool to see a unique approach to some of these fundamental skills. It never occurred to me that the height of a cube standing perfectly on its edge as if it was perfectly balanced is the square root of 2, but I might actually keep that in mind. I feel like I don't really see ideas like that in the art world of TH-cam tbh, and I think it'd be great if more people tried to understand art skills in new ways like Rinke did.
As for the way he ended up drawing boxes with a coordinate system, I'm not really sure about it. I could be wrong, but I feel like trying to memorize the numbers might just be making things harder. The way I imagine it going in someone's brain is, normally they look at a box and then by the magic of their brains' learned abilities convert that into lines that can be drawn. For the coordinates, I feel like your brain has to convert an image it sees into numbers and then numbers into lines, which might be harder to learn due to the additional steps.
On the other hand, I think he was really onto something by trying to nail the true proportions of things. If you wanna make a meticulous and accurate realistic drawing, then that can be useful. Besides that though, I'm not sure that I would find this method useful. When I try to imagine a cube to draw it, I move the lines and corners around in my imagination before I actually commit to drawing it usually. If all three sets of parallel lines converge about in accordance with the vanishing points they share somewhere off in the distance, then the cube or box will probably work.
One trick for cubes that works really well for me tho is imagining that I'm holding one. I can move and rotate my hand so that my imagined cube appears in different angles and perspectives. An idea I had just now is also that I can try to construct a cube with my fingers, where my fingertips are (some or all of) the corners of the cube, and then I can use that as my reference. Since all side lengths are equal, I can pretty closely model that with my fingers, and then I can just draw with those proportions in mind.
Rinke and pikat REALLY represents how skills are divided in art. Rinke was actually drawn in black and white which yields his personality as someone that likes deterministic skills. I also could mathematically solve the perspective issue coding a rotating cube representation on python from scratch, so I feel represented by Rinke lol. (See about it at 3D projection and 3D rotation matrix on Wikipedia).
You have a great taste in background music :D
I loved the idea of using math to caculate perspective. Is a good way for him to associat things and a prety clever solution
12:55 was like a bombshell to me, I still like the video and I think it has good takeaways but I feel like this completely changes the parameters. I'm gonna watch it again with that in mind.
I suck at math so seeing someone use math to draw makes my brain hurt but I'm also impressed af too. I also think Rinki did a great job, I need to start setting time to just practice but it's so hard to focus drawing things I don't have interest in so I see why he had issues drawing without any real interest. Maybe if he has interest in art now maybe he'd like technical or designer art? Since he incorporates math.
Your drawing of him looks like Ray from The Promised Neverland!
That is an insane way of doing boxes and drawing in general...Math is weird. I hate but also love that it's everywhere.
I don't know if use math is the unpratical way to draw a simple box, but i appreciate the effort lol
I love Rinke. He's an engineer at heart.
And when I first started drawing as a kid my observations on how they drew it made me think them like that with no experience on art just get confident on line art very fast in traditional/digital.
Back in high school (over a decade ago) I used a grid system to draw a photo reference of friends on paper. Basically enlarge a photo by hand using pencil with the help of a ruler, protractor, and a calculator to ensure the proportion is consistent. I spent more time on the calculator than putting pencil on paper. Still is the most realistic pictures I've drawn. Never done it again because it was a pain!
his lines did improve i am impressed :0
Hell yeah, big math fan here, I love numbers. "eye is halfway through the head", "figure is 7-8 heads tall", This sort of numbers based information really gets my learning gears turning
Make this man do a captcha PLEASE 🙏🏾
Difference of From imagination vs from reference is HUGE i usually like to doodle and. Sometimes i end up with a few good pieces but when i look up a reference while i may not get the best drawing i still get consistent results that are much better than imagination pieces
Now I want to find a friend who's good at maths and would be willing to draw boxes to see if they would end up using the same method as Rinke 😂
Projections of a cube into a flat plane are actually really interesting, since the protection changes in some unintuitive ways under certain rotations. So having a background in math may actually help generalize how objects behave in the 2D plane when rotated in 3D space.