2 Mics 1 Phone: Recording 2 Lavs with Your SmartPhone RODE smartLav+
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 25 ส.ค. 2024
- Lots of people have asked for a low-cost solution for recording two people in interview style videos. Here's one option using two RODE smartLav+ mics, an adapter, and your smartphone. The audio quality is decent, certainly better than your camera's mic and the total cost for the microphones and adapter is less than $200 USD.
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FINALLY. Somebody who knows how to talk audio, in a clear and easy way. I've been watching a dozen or more videos on hooking up a lav mic to an iPhone, and none of those videos from many channels really got into the crux of the matter. Curtis ! - so glad I found your channel ! In another video you have on-screen graphics show the difference between TS, TRS and TRRS. Thank goodness I found you. Phew ! I just purchased a package of 3 TRS mics off of Amazon, Neewer brand ( 3 for $10 ) I realized later that they will NOT work with the included adapter with my iPhone 7Plus. ( Apple ships this lightning to 3.5 adapter with all new phones that don't have an audio jack ) I did some searching, and you can use the lightning to audio adapter that came with it for a *microphone* ( I have not been able to confirm this theory though ) Here's my question - IF I have to the Apple adapter ( Lightning to audio ) and then another adapter that has a TRS to TRRS configuration - will I be only recording in MONO ? ..... Also, what are you suggestions ? These little el'cheapo mics arrived only yesterday, and I"m thinking they should be heading back to Amazon for a refund and I'll buy a TRRS mic ( it seems I didn't do enough research ) BTW - I do have a mint Zoom H2 - and originally bought these TRS cabled mics for that Zoom H2 ... thinking it would work. ( now I'm not so sure it will ) does the Zoom H2 require a TRRS cable end to plug into the Zoom ? ... if you tell me yes, then the mics must go back. Thanks for your time, I hope you find my question here, and hope you can spare me a few seconds ! - Mark over at the BakeLikeAPro recipe channel. Thank you Curtis !
Hi Mark, the Apple lightning to 3.5mm adapter requires a TRRS connection to work. Phones, by design, only record mono into 3.5mm jacks. As for the Zoom H2, it requires TRS microphones so the Neewer mic should work with the H2. Best wishes!
I never hit skip ad before your videos because I hope you are getting paid handsomely for all this invaluable info.
Thanks!
Good Idea!
Hi, Thank you for another great review. An extension cable for the TRRS Smartlav+ is the SC1. 6m of TRRS !
As I have been trying to figure out how to record video/audio on my smartphone, I have referenced your videos numerous times. Lots of info, very professional, and great sound and camera (lighting) work. Thank you very much and happy Holidays to you.
Thanks and happy holidays to you!
The SC6 is great. I use it for my iPhone 6 S Plus and Air 2.
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Helpful. Answered my question about recording on a single channel. I need to record each mic on a separate channel, left & right, each onto a separate track. The problem with a trrs is the mic is mono. For recording I'm using the N track 9 app on android. It allows recording left & right mic inputs on separate tracks. I'm gonna try an external usb sound card dongle plugged into the USB-c port and plug a left/right splitter into the mic input (Cuz none of these dongles have more than 1 mic input). One mic will plug into the left input & another into the right. This is the only way I can see to plug in 2 mics on separate channels & a set of earbuds for monitoring. What I want to do is sing & play guitar, recording voice in 1 mic & guitar in the other, and be free to move around with the guitar without being wired to equipment, audio interface, etc. A truly mobile multi track recording method. The Android phone & recording app have this ability but I Have yet to find a single device that allows to do this simply. I need an audio sound card/ interface dongle that plugs direct into the android phones USB- c port & which has a 1/4" input for guitar & 2 1/8" mic inputs for lavalier mics.
You might look into the iRig Pro Duo: www.ikmultimedia.com/products/irigproduoio/
@@curtisjudd Thanks for the tip. Thing is the IRig devices seem to be for Iphones, not Android. There's 2 inputs for xlr or 1/4", but no 1/8" inputs for lavalier mics, maybe you could use a 1/4 to 1/8 adapter.
No, sorry, didn’t consider lavaliers, my oversight. The inputs supply way too much power for lavaliers and will likely damage them unless you use an adapter which also converts the voltage like a RODE VXLR+.
Impeccable video sir! It answered many questions that i had. Impressed that you answer everyone too.
Thanks, glad it helped!
Great video. it gave me some interesting , basic, technical knowledge on the use of mics and their connections as well as perspective on what to expect audio wise. Thank you!
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as always . excellent review . thank you
+Leslie Arnelle TV thanks!
Curtis I was at Sam Ash in NYC today and bought a Rode SC6 and a IRig Mic Lav. May have duplicated capability as the IRig has a similar adapter to add a second Mic. Will be testing. Big challenge is doing sit down interviews with a hand held and reaching over to get the Mic near the guest. Using a lapel Mic should be a big help. Making progress. Ken
Good work, keep it up and best wishes!
Curtis, thanks, problem I am working through tonight is the audio level for video interview I did today for my guest is much lower than my voice which is loud to begin with. Trying to use NCH VideoPad to raise the volume level of my guest leaving mine alone, I know how to do this on a standard MP3 recording, but not easy with this software. Any suggestions? Many thanks, Ken
+Ken Kraetzer aha! This is exactly where a mixer can save a lot of work in post. But when in this situation, I would pull out Audition or Audacity and highlight her dialogue and amplify it. Or the inverse, lower yours.
Informativ video 🙏🏻
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Thanks for creating this! Very helpful information.
You're welcome!
Nice information.
Thanks!
Curtis, my mic voice is delayed feeding back to the headset monitor. Is there a way to connect? I used my android galaxy note 5. Many thanks.
Great, helpful video. Thanks
Thanks Steve!
Great video! Is there a way to split the audio from the two microphones by separating it by left and right channels?
Hi Chris, smartphones with 3.5mm inputs generally only support a single channel of audio as the jacks are designed for stereo headsets with a mono microphone.
Nope. The microphone channel in the TRRS connection is mono. You're better off using a cheap phone or an external recording when you need manual mixing controls.
But, if you're using a recorder with TRS input, and if you can do some DIY, you can look up the pinouts and stuff use this to make your own stereo seperator(maybe there's already made adapters not sure) to use dual channel at TRS plug for what you've wished.
very informative violin player here also :D
Hi Curtis... You have such a great channel here...
I was wondering... What about 3 mics and 1 phone? We are just 2 people normally, but now we need to interview someone else so i guess we need another microphone... Is this possible? What's your recomendation for a budget production?
I don't know of any devices that support three mics into a single phone. May need to go with two phones and sync in post.
Why would you want that? Just take your own mic and move your hand back and forth during the interview
Thanks. You are a great teacher.
Excellent video! Nice job all around. Great audio too. 👍🏼
+BenjaminGib Thanks!
Hi Curtis, Great videos! Are you able to record audio AND video using two Rode Lav+ mics? Example: For doing 2-person video interviews? Or does this mic only work for Audio recordings? Thanks!
+Marlene Hielema (ImageMaven) It also works when recording video with the phone. Good question, thanks for that!
Thanks so much for answering my question, Curtis. :) Love your videos.
Thanks for sharing! I already got the SmartLav+ (TTRS) with SC-3 because I almost always record into the cameras TRS input. Now I would like to buy a second Lavaliermic with a splitter for a interview setup. Would you recommend buying a second SmartLav+ and a SC6?
Or rather a set of two equal TRS Lavaliers and (what kind of) splitter? Dankeschön for your advice!
Hi Carina, The SC6 could potentially work but seems like a lot of adapting and you cannot control the input level of the two microphones independently which becomes problematic when one of the two people has a louder voice than the other. You might consider looking at an audio adapter like one of these instead: th-cam.com/video/B_0od_f_QkQ/w-d-xo.html
Really appreciate your informative content. THANK YOU!! Question for you (I'm new to this) - what are the issues with just using two separate lavalier mics, each plugged into their own individual smartphones, and recording two separate audio files during a single interview?
Nothing wrong with that at all, just need to sync them in post.
Thankyou bro. Very good. Thanks god.
Thanks sivananda das.
It is such a relief to watch your vids! Both because of the knowledge which is impressive and because it is just an ease to watch and listen! I have one question; is it at all possible to use two external mics with a iPhone 12 pro max and get two seperate tracks in post, so you can edit each audio alone? After watching your review of the Røde Videomic NTG, I would like a setup with that one and a wireless lav mic on Blink 500 Pro. As far as I know, Apple dont want you to use two seperate mics from third part?
Hi Sverre, It isn't possible directly into the iPhone, but if you use an audio interface which supports iOS, then you can attach two mics to that and pan one left and one right. It is a pretty cumbersome setup, however.
@@curtisjudd Thank you so much for the answer. Being far from a pro, I guess I better not :) Thank you very much.
Are you still a big fan of the Giant Squid mics for recorders such as the Zoom H1?
And I am looking for a new recorder to run mics into...doesn't need to have built in mic...what would you suggest?
Hi Jay, the Giant Squid is good for its price, but to be honest, I have better mics that I prefer to use for my corporate video work, and I actually prefer boom mics. My two main work horses are the RODE NTG-2 and as of a month or two ago, the Audio Technica AT4053b. If I have to use a lavalier, I'll usually use the Audio Technica AT899 or HMNSound MicroLav (which I haven't reviewed yet because they're still fine-tuning it). Both of these are XLR mics. Lavs are not my favorite but I review them because they do have their strong points (easier to use for one-person production crews) and our little community here asks about them frequently.
As far as recorders, I really like the Tascam DR-60D. It is almost perfect. If it had better battery life, it would be amazing for its $200 price tag. But alas, that smallish price-tag comes with a few costs, the main one being rather mediocre battery life. Some complain about the electronic potentiometers (to control the input levels) but I don't find those to be an issue when recording dialogue because I don't usually ride them while recording. Of course I'd love to have a Sound Devices mixer/recorder but the $2000 beginning price tag is a little out of my part-time film-maker budget for now. My review of the DR-60D can be found here if you didn't already catch it: th-cam.com/video/C3jgu9IivZM/w-d-xo.html
What are you using for sound currently?
Curtis Judd Hi Curtis
does the "b" in the model name represent the second version of this mic ie is there Audio Technica AT4053 AND Audio Technica AT4053b microphones ?
***** Looks and sounds good!
doubledark2 Yes, the mic has interchangeable capsules and the "b" represents the second generation hyper-cardioid capsule, as I understand it.
Curtis Judd
Thank You!
great
I noticed in your sample interview with the musician, you had two separate camera angles. In that case you could use one mic for each camera, correct? no splitter. that would also allow you to edit the sound streams individually.
Yes, or record to two separate phones. Lots of options!
I can't fond it on amazon , i don't know what happen to you ,
They updated it some time ago with a lightning connector for iOS devices: amzn.to/2YB0S2X
Full disclosure - this is an affiliate link for Amazon. As an affiliate, I earn from qualifying purchases.
I bought this per your advice and my issue is that my phone is still using the built in mic and not the lav. Any thoughts? Also, when I turn on the mic, Siri answers. I think I figured that out by just turning off Siri.
Would it be a problem if both people were to laugh or talk at the same time? I'm wondering if the sound would become unrecognizable or to loud.
Do you have any experience with the FilMic Pro application?
Yes, that is always a risk. The way I manage that is leave some headroom by setting your gain or input level so that the regular peaks hit -12db or so. Then in editing, you'll need to normalize to make it loud enough. I'll have a new episode coming this week to show how to do that.
I have used FilMic Pro. Pretty decent app.
It's quite easy to connect your audio from phone to camera correct?
It is quite easy to sync it, yes, if your phone doesn't drift.
Hey Curtis ! Thank you for this vid :) I have a question : is it possible to use these products while I'm filming with the iphone video app ? Or it's just compatible with an audio app ? Thank you !
+Emmanuel S yes, it works with the iOS camera app
Cool, that was my question too.
Between using the 2 Lavs or a Tascam DR-100 mk II which would you choose for interviews?
My concern is that my subject and I won't be heard with the Tascam.
With all of the features on the Tascam this does sound silly though.
Is there a way to connect the Tascam to my smartphone so I won't have to edit?
I have sold my DR-100mkII and now use a DR-60DmkII. It is a better recorder and comes in at about the same price. The DR-60D is made to connect to your camera so that you do not have to sync the audio in post. Here's the review of the DR-60DmkII: th-cam.com/video/TRoIMPHS91U/w-d-xo.html
Great video, can I also use Samsung Galaxy 9 for ths type of work.
I would think so.
Thanks for helping me out in selecting Smart Lav+ and Zoom H1. I always love to check your videos, for pro suggestions.
Recently I run across a thought! Can we record the audio from Smart Lav+, if I extend it with the SC1: TRRS Extension Cable(6m) and then use the Rode SC3 TRSS to TRS to connect to Zoom H1? I somewhere heard that we aren't able to use 2 SC cables together, so thought of checking it with you.
and any suggestions on this combo?: 2 "Rode Smart Lav+" -into a "Rode SC6 Dual TRSS Input and Headphone Output" -into an "SC1: TRRS Extension Cable(6m") -into a "Rode SC3 TRSS to TRS" -into "Zoom h1" -into a "Rode SC2 3.5mm TRS Patch Cable" -into "CANON 80D".................................
Hi! I haven’t tried extending like that. It probably isn’t recommended because of the addition interference you can pick up. But worth a try and return the cable if it doesn’t work out.
thanks bro
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Thank you for this excellent video, Curtis. Yes - the cables are quite short on these microphones! Have you found a solution to this yet? Regards Alex
This should do the job: amzn.to/2bKQttL
Hi sir . . Very nice video tutorial . . But do you know how to join 3 mic with 1 mobile phone ? Any recommend connector that i can use ?
You need a mixer at that point. 😀
@@curtisjudd what brand that i can used especially for android ?
@@nornazura I was talking about a mixing board, like you see the sound person use at a concert. I don't know of any specifically for phones, unfortunately.
@@curtisjudd thanks ! 😊
Very useful information.
Does it have a earphone jack as well for monitoring?
Thanks!
It does but it only allows playback, it doesn't work while recording.
Thank you for your Video. It was a little confusing.
Thanks for the feedback. Short and hopefully less confusing version: An adapter and two microphones will do the job of recording two people with one phone.
I am using a Bluetooth headphones , not equipped with noise concellation
Is there a why we can think of it to use the smartphone noise concellation micro , with this micro while calling at least
I don't think they make this product any longer. If you can find one, it might work, would need to test.
Great video Curtis.
I was wondering what you'd recommend equipment wise for interviewing remotely. I can pretty much have my mac wherever I go, however I'm curious what mic's I'd use and what splitters, etc.
Would you suggest two SmartLav+ mics and the SC6TRRS adaptor into the computer still, or would you be leaning towards something else?
Hi Matt, I'll need to pull out my MacBook to confirm it works with that setup. Definitely works with iOS devices. The big downside either way is that both people are recorded to the same audio track which doesn't leave you with as much room to fix issues or sweeten the sound in post so I still usually bring along a proper audio recorder where I can record people on separate tracks. In summary: if you're working with a tight budget, go with the setup in the video and be ok with mediocre sound. If you have a little more, I'd go with a proper audio recorder.
Hi Curtis Judd, cheers for that. I really just want something portable and easy to use, so I might go ahead with that set up. I'm not necessarily after studio quality, it just for interviews on my podcast, when I'm not in my office off my main mic (Rhode Podcaster). Thanks again.
Thanks for this great video.
Why do you wear the lavalier mic upside down? I'm amazed that your voice is still clearly audible when using the mic upside down.
Hi Maarten, 99.9% of lavalier microphones have a generally omni-directional pickup pattern (though it is not perfectly omni-directional). Placing it upside down can solve two potential problems: Plosives (where the letters P or B are spoken and overwhelm the microphone), and sibilance (it can reduce the harshness of sibilance in some cases. Sibilance is the harsh or distorted sound you sometimes hear when someone speaks the letter S or C).
Thank you for your clear explanation. Much appreciated!
Hey Curtis, You just made my day! I struggled with figuring out the way how to record and monitor on a smartphone and this seems to be the least cumbersome combination of interfaces. Have you had a chance to try it out with the iPhone 7 or higher with the 3,5-inch jack to Lightning adapter? Is there a significant loss of quality due to the transition from analog to digital through that adapter or is it barely noticeable? Thank you!
Pavol
Hi Pavol, the quality difference is very small. Phones are not the most amazing audio recorders for a variety of reasons, but this works decently. Regarding the headphone jack, there are two things to keep in mind as it is not a perfect solution: 1) The recording app must support duplex to playback the audio while recording. 2) Apps that do support this play back the audio with a significant delay that can be rather distracting while recording. It is a very affordable solution, but just wanted to make sure you understand the tradeoffs. Good luck!
Hi Curtis, Thank you for a swift response, much appreciated! Hmm.., the thing with a delay in the duplex to playback is a nasty thing and will be a big tradeoff. I would wonder if a pair of Bluetooth headphones could cope with the "monitoring" task better. I will have to try it out for myself if I hear my voice, while I am recording on an iPhone. The thing is, I would like to create the most cost and device efficient video recording setup around an iPhone 8 Plus with 4K 60 fps and a great sounding audio being recorded directly with the video to spare me the additional task to merge the audio recording with the video recording in a software. I am new to this and the recording situation I am planning is a very static one in a controlled environment.
There are for sure benefits to record onto a separate device like the Zoom H1, though I cannot estimate the additional time effort to combine it later on in a software.
The output target is TH-cam. Would you rather recommend to go the extra mile and record the video and audio separately with a later merge in a software?
Thank you,
Pavol
Hi Pavol, the RODE SC6 is definitely the most cost and size efficient solution but of course has the monitoring and no mixing control downsides. You could potentially consider an interface like this which has better monitoring and allows you to control the input level of each microphone. The cost is a higher price and a bigger piece of gear: th-cam.com/video/zm6WCGIQ7ak/w-d-xo.html
Hi i was wondering if there was a certain app you had to record on for the dual voice input or if voice memo works
Hi Drew, any recording app will work, including voice memos.
Great explanation, Can you please tell me connect to connect ZoomH1n and Boya BY M1 lav mic to my smart phone so that I can record Audio and Video in together.
Hi Sudhir, it would probably be easier to just connect your microphone to your phone. You will just need a TRS to TRRS adapter if your microphone has a TRS connector.
Hey, do you know if this signal chain would work?
2 SmartLav+s > SC6 breakout box > TRRS-TRS adaptor > Zoom H4N.
I guess what I'm trying to figure out is if the TRRS-TRS adaptor would have any effect of the SC6, perhaps blocking the plug-in power from reaching the mic(s), or something like that.
Thanks very much.
Yes, just tested it and it works. Note that it records both mics to both channels. That is fine as long as you weren't expecting it to record one mic to the left channel and the other to right so that you could edit them separately before mixing in post. Good luck!
Thanks so much! Your videos have been extremely helpful.
I would have thought you have given the more easily to understand explanation of TRRS = tip, ring, ring, sleeve. the number of R's denotes the number of rings
Thanks for the feedback.
Great video Curtis. Im looking for a solution to record speech and saxophone into iPhone. Assuming I get 2 smartlav+ and the audio is recorded onto the same channel, with one mic clipped to lapel for speech and the other clipped to the sax, will this work better than say a Blue Yeti mic solution?
Hi Michelle, it would definitely work better if this were a mixer that allowed adjusting the input level of each mic separately. I think the Blue Yeti would probably still be better because you can at least move it to be closer to the voice and farther from the instrument to balance out the levels.
Perfect - decision made. Thank you for your swift reply.
Can you also connect two condenser microphones (like the Auna CM001B) with this adapter?
No, The Auna has an XLR output and I assume it needs +48V phantom power, so this little adapter will NOT work.
Hello!! I am wondering if i dont have the adopter .. and i have two microphone and 2 mobile phones .. what should i do to sync two different audio into premiere pro .. thank you
Clap at the beginning. Then you can manually line them up with the clap mark. But I'd try the automatic sync first. It usually works quite well.
Thank you Curtis. This was immensely helpful. I am doing Facebook live streaming for which I will use this set up. But I want to widen the lens of my iphone camera for these recordings. Could you please tell me how to do this.
+Sadia Khan Hi, thanks! I haven't used them but there are a lot of add-on lenses for iPhone that will give you a wider field of view. Here's one of the higher quality options from Ollo: amzn.to/1Y0FRpA Best of luck!
Thank you!
Instead of using the audio from my webcam I would like to use a lavalier microphone. Do you think the smartLav+ could be an option by itself or would I need an adapter?
It is an option if your computer has a TRRS input. Usually it will be marked as a mic/headset input. Most computers in the last 2 years or so have this. You can test your computer by plugging in a set of earbuds with mic (if you have one for your smartphone, for example). If it works, then the smartLav+ should work.
Can you use headphones with the SC6 to monitor the audio in real-time? Other reviews say that this is not possible...that you can only hear the audio on play back.
Agreed - only for play-back unless the app specifically supports playback while recording and in cases where it does, the latency is long enough that it is distracting to use to monitor in real-time.
I know this is an older video but what about combining two wireless mic systems to a smartphone or tablet (smallest solution possible).
Many of the newer consumer grade wireless systems will do this - RODE Wireless GO II, DJI Mic, Saramonic Blink, etc.
@@curtisjudd yes but with 2.4ghz they always drop out at tech conferences so are unusable. Planning to get two separate Sony UWP systems for true diversity and want to combine them through an adapter or small interface to use with consumer gear when needed.
Thanks Curtis. Have been watching a lot of your videos. I'm often on conference calls whilst on the move on trains and in airports; I'd like to improve my audio quality. Would this be a good option: lavalier + headphones?
+LP9006 No, I think quality noise cancelling headset made for phones is going to be a better bet.
Hey curtis .. I want to connect my smartlav+ directly on to my dslr..is that possible?? If so plz help me which type of cable i need to buy ..i need a long cable plz hep me ..
Hi Ashray, yes, you just need this: amzn.to/2arVKpd
Thank you for posting this video, Curtis.
I intend to use your method, but I have an iPhone8 which requires a lightning adaptor. Everything else is the same, yes?
Or, is there now a better method?
Also, is there any way to connect headphones to the iPhone to ensure that the audio is coming in clearly?
It will work with the lightning to 3.5mm adapter. There is a headphone jack on the SC6 but most apps will not play back to the headphones while recording.
I’m thinking of buying the Rode SC6-L dual lav mic kit, to film interviews with people in coffee shops. It plugs into the lightning port. I still have an old iPhone 6S Plus, so I still have a headphone jack. But I hope to upgrade my iPhone soon, and the new phones just have the lightning port. Have you tried the SC6-L? Will it sound good for my TH-cam and podcast?
Hi Josh, should be a decent way to capture much better audio in places like coffee shops. I haven't tried the new lightning version yet.
@@curtisjudd Cool. Well, maybe I'll go buy it tonight or tomorrow and I can let you know how it is! We could record a Skype video call of me telling you about it.
@@SparkTheGenius 👍 Best wishes!
Good job man
+vu pham Thanks!
what about for the iPhone 10 plus I got the square input
There's a newer version of this with a lightning connector, I believe. See RODE.com.
Is the sound quality from both microphones exactly the same just like if you are using one rode lav mike with the mobile phone directly. Because i feel like using two microphones may diminish the sound quality. @Curtis
Seemed the same in my subjective opinion. The main issue is that you cannot adjust the input level for each mic independently so it is not a perfect solution. But it is an affordable solution. If you want top quality, I'd look at using a mixer something like this: th-cam.com/video/B_0od_f_QkQ/w-d-xo.html
it can record audio without disturbance??
Hi , love your explanation I'm new to mics, I'm doing a lot of video recording, I have a Rode VideoMic Pro, just wondering if I can use the sc6 to connect the mic and headphone on my Iphone7?
Hi Leo, you'll want the RDOE SC4 to adapt the VideoMic Pro to work with a phone. You could also get the SC6 but keep in mind that you won't be able to monitor through the headphones while recording unless the app you use supports that. I'm not aware of any that do without some latency which makes it a bit confusing. But it will at least save you the trouble of swapping out the mic and headphones when you want to play back recordings. I hope that makes sense and good luck!
RODE SC4: amzn.to/2lNuoAA
RODE SC6: amzn.to/2ma05ES
Hi Curtis, have you done an updated video on this subject? Thx.
Hi Moz, we did look at the Saramonic SmartRig+ which is a slightly more expensive, but more capable audio adapter (you can use 3.5mm mics or XLR mics): th-cam.com/video/zm6WCGIQ7ak/w-d-xo.html
Hey Curtis, I purchased a TRRS splitter to record two regular headphone mics on one iphone simultaneously. However, the iPhone isn't recognizing them and still recording through the inbuilt mic. Is there a special app I need to use to record?
Hi Rohan, No, I believe the app will pick up any microphone that iOS recognizes. One issue I've seen a lot is that phone cases prevent the SC6 from plugging all the way into the phone. As a test, you might remove any cases to see if that solves the issue. Best wishes!
Dear Curtis. Works great on my Iphone but not working with the Android OnePlus3. Is their a way to make it work with that unit.
Hi, I wish I could help but I am not familiar with the OnePlus3. :(
Thanks. Might have figured it out.
Hi Curtis, this was helpful, but is there an alternative where the input levels could be adjusted? I'm trying to record videos of myself playing music and I want one mic for my voice and one for an acoustic pickup basically.
I have a zoom h4n, would I be better off buying a mic that could connect to that and just syncing everything in post? I feel like that would be more complicated...
Thanks
+duplexesofthedead thanks! I haven't used this, but you might look at the iRig Duo: amzn.to/2fksGnL best wishes!
Hi, Curtis! I wanna know if I use the SC4 adapter, I could connect, for example, a MKE2 Gold with the EW connector line, wich is a standard mini plug (TRS). Thanks a lot... and sorry for my english.
+Santiago López Sami Yes, that should work fine! Good luck!
Curtis, can I plug the Rode SC6 directly into the camera and then record the two Lav mics onto the same file as the DLSR video footage? That would be better audo quality than the DSLR's in-built mic.
Hi Robert, I don't think that will work because most cameras have TRS inputs and the RODE SC6 has TRRS inputs and plug. There may be other splitter out there for TRS plugs.
Thanks - I'll check it out.
Hi Curtis,
I have two lavalier clip-on mics with the Rode SC6 dual TRRS input but I’m trying to make it work on my iPhone 8. I’ve used a 3.5mm to Lighting Adapter plug but it doesn’t pick up the audio from the mics and is still only using the mic from the iPhone?
I’m having major user error haha but do you have any tips at all? Should I invest in a better lighting adapter? Or is it the app I’m using? Because I’m using the Hokusai 2 recording app for my podcasts and I’m trying to set up for an interview.
Hope all is well and thanks for uploading this video!
Hi Ricky, Which microphones are you using? To work with the SC6, they will need 3.5mm TRRS connectors (three colored rings on the barrel).
Curtis Judd my mics have the 3.5mm trrs jack. I actually figured out what was wrong with my system late yesterday. I had to change my lightning adapter but thank you for replying!
1:54 you wrote "the" twice Note the hiss even through the the dialogue sounds louder. If I am the first person to notice this in 2 years do I win a prize?
Your sharp grammar editing eyes are your prize. Congratulations! :)
What mic setup are you using for this video? It sounds very good. Apologies if this has been answered.
I'm using the RODE smartLav+: amzn.to/2hlaYSR
Ok. Was the show recorded straight into an ios or post mixed? Thaks!
Thank you, I do a lot of interviews, mostly with an IRigg microphone recording with Galaxy S7Edge, most of the time interviews are done standing where one microphone works. Sit downs really require two microphones. This is a good basic recommendation.
Thanks Ken, good info!
How can I do this set up with 2 wireless microphones 1 interface and 1 android phone? Thanks in advance?
Use a wireless system like this: th-cam.com/video/aD7LOYiqKE8/w-d-xo.html or like one of these: th-cam.com/video/S72gZwpjWGI/w-d-xo.html
Thank you, thank you, thank you!!💖💖💖💖💖😳
You are welcome!
Do you know if you can use a directional mic, and a llav mic, so I can record a subject and add my commentary.
Yes, should work.
I simply want to use two mics with a mic splitter on iphone. Anyone know a good solution?
You could try a 3.5mm TRRS splitter.
Thank you, Judd, for the video. very helpful.
btw whether the r6 sc6 adapter is added to the 2 mic + 2 boya output, which will later become 4 mic. Is that wort?
Haven't tried it but it should work. At least for three microphones.
@@curtisjudd hmmmmm, I’m using dual mic boya by-m1dm for now and i will buy rode sc6 dual trrs adapter. Is it work for using 4 mic if i buy another dual mic boya by-m1dm?
@@yongkisatria2703 Sorry, I didn't know that you were using a dual mic. One SC6 should be enough, at least in theory - I haven't specifically tested this.
Dear Curtis thanks for the info. I have one more question. Did you tried the headphones because when i am using both mic and the headphone. I couldnt get the sound...
The headphone jack only works to play back the audio after the recording, not while recording, unfortunately.
this was very usefull to know thanks...
Significant noise floor during the interview. Can you monitor with headphones/earbuds during the recording
Gay Shrink Yes, you can monitor whilst recording. As for the noise floor, there were several issues with that scenario. The biggest was the room reverb/reflections. That's the worst room in my home. And the second factor was the second mic which required a lot or normalization in editing which brought the noise floor up. If it had been recorded with two smartLav+s, I'm betting it would have been cleaner in terms of noise floor.
J,can u use different mic with that has the TRRS with the rode sc6? Like I have comica lav mic and if buy a rode smartlav TRRS can both work together?
Yes.
Do you know if the SC6 adaptor is supported on the iPad 6th Generation?
Yes, works even with the 3.5mm to lightning adapter.
Thanks,i will not buy,because you answered question.it mixes two mics to mono.and i already have that.i dont think this convenient tech way to go into a phone this way is possible in stereo,only mono.but i cant deal with an audio interphase and a mixer editing tool app at this time to get stereo audio.so mono's fine.
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Hi, great channel. Do you think a line in would work in this setup? Like 1 lav. and 1 external mp3 player (w/adapter) making it possible to talk with music in the background.
Cheers
That will be tricky since this is a mic level input. If your device has the ability to attenuate the signal it might work. You could also potentially use an attenuation adapter with the line out device to make it work. But out of the box, this isn't set up for that scenario.
Hi Curtis...Thanks for this tutorial!
One question, Can I use this solution to record stereo from RCA?
If you were to get some RCA to TRRS adapters it should work. I haven't tested it nor have I seen such adapters before but if you have a friend that's handy with soldering and electronics, you could probably make it work.
Cool. Thanks so much for your help
Thanks for the informative video. Can i use 2 set of Wireless microphone say Boya BY-WM5 with Rode SC4(TRR to TRRS) and plug in with Rode SC6 to my iphone? Thanks if you could give some advice.
Mine echos what did you do
Just got the SC6 adapter and hooked two mics into it and it records great but the headphone jack does not seem to work at all. I thought the purpose of this was to be able to record with one or two mics while you can also listen live through the headphone to monitor the sound coming in as it records. Another person thought no the headphone jack was only to listen to playback after the recoding is done. I have also heard the headphone jack wont work while mics are in unless you buy some app that has a setting in it called "playthrough" you must click on. I don't know which is the truth of all this feedback. Do you know from expirience?
Hi sandywjo5, yes, the headphone jack only works during playback or if the app that does the recording supports play through. Note that the apps which do support play through typically experience some latency so it is very distracting to listen while recording because the playback comes up to a second later. I hope that helps.
Would these TRRS work with zoom h1? any test and thoughts?
it is off topic, but would there be sound quality difference in
rode videomic directly camera
rode videomic to zoom h1
OR even rode videomic to zoom h1 to camera from earphone jack
which option would be best quality?
***** you can use the smartLav+ with your Zoom H1 by using our SC3 adaptor which converts it to a TRS connection.
Recording your VideoMic into the Zoom H1 will produce much better quality because of the better audio preamps as well as allowing you to place your mic off camera, closer to your sound source.
***** Just added another episode where we show how to use the smartLav+ with the Zoom H1: th-cam.com/video/FIh2U-v6jcs/w-d-xo.html
Hi Curtis, I'm trying to find a solution to get better audio for Facebook Live having 2 Lav mics into my Samsung Android S7Edge phone. Do you think the Rode SmartLav+ will be a good choice?
Yes, I like the smartLav+. I haven't specifically tested Facebook like on Android to confirm it will take audio from the mic input on the phone. I know that some Android apps don't recognize external mics. Perhaps somebody else here has tested that combination?
I got the SmartLav+ for my Samsung S7 Edge and I plugged it in, and it seems to work fine. The cord is so short, I had to go back and order the extension. Thanks again for your wonderful channel!
Glad it worked! Happy filming!
Can you update this for an iPhone 11 Pro Max?
Hi Media Boost, it is the same except you use the 3.5mm to lightning adapter from Apple.
Ha ha I thought it like a new device and just bought it for a Clubhouse meet 😆bro
If it works, it works. Happy club housing.
Hi, I bought the SC6 but the mic was picking up from my iPhone's mic instead of the Smartlav+. I'm using iPhone 4s, any idea what's causing the problem?
Sounds like the phone isn't recognizing the SC6. If you have a protective case on the phone, try taking it off and make sure all the connections are fully inserted.
Curtis Judd Yup, I did just that, and everything works fine now. Thanks for the tips.
Curtis, I am trying to figure out how to improve the audio and video quality for Live Streaming on Facebook and Instagram - and I have not found much that will allow me to use both external video and audio inputs. I am curious if there is a way to take the output of a video switcher and sound board into the inputs of an iphone to enable easily setup Live broadcasts. Any help you can provide would be appreciated.
Hi Rick, getting the audio from a mixer is definitely possible. I'm not as confident on how to get a video stream from a switcher to a mobile device. Let me give it some thought and get back with you...
Hi was wondering during video recording or live. Do you actually get to hear yourself? I heard some people it does not.
Correct - it depends on the app, but most do NOT play the audio back to you while recording.
And part of the reason for that is that there would be some delay/latency so it would be really distracting to hear yourself back a second later.
Hi Curtis, great video. Could I use the SC6 to record the input from an ECM mic using the correct adapter cable? (This does work when connected directly to the iphones trrs multi jack) Many thanks and keep up the good work. Billy.
Hi Billy, yes, it should work as long as the mic and adapter work directly to iPhone. Good luck!
Curtis Judd Hello again Curtis, I just wanted to let you know that the RØDE SC6 works perfectly with the external ECM mic and I'm really happy with the quality of the audio upon playback.
I have another question for you if you don't mind...
I've recorded some line level audio on my iPhone using a stereo aux cable and RØDE SC4 (TRS-TRRS) adapter cable. The audio is clipping slightly so my question for you is;
In your opinion would reducing the line in input volume with an in-line volume control attenuate the signal sufficiently to allow for a more acceptable quality recording or must I buy a suitably attenuated cable adapter?
Thanks again,
Billy.
Hi Billy, ideally you'd want to use a proper attenuator cable, but if the in-line volume control does the job and you're happy with the results, that should save you some money. Good luck!
Thanks again Curtis, I'll let you know how it goes? 👍
Is it mono or stereo on the phone
( i mean on right mic i will hear on right only and on left mic i will hear on left only ) thank you for help
Mono.
@@curtisjudd thx 👍
Hi Curtis, i want to use it with a Rode SWM + SC4 and a TRS headset., can I hear live what i'm recording, like I'm doing it with my DSLR? Thank you!
+Alex Vancu (Fotografie de produs) With the RODERec app, if you turn on the Playthrough feature, yes, you will be able to monitor yourself while recording with the SC6, SC4, and RODE SVM and a TRS headset. It works in a pinch.
+Curtis Judd Thank you very much!!!
Hi Curtis, excellent video. Thank you. I have a rode mic from the filmmaker kit that has a micron fit. Although it fits the sc3 (wont fit directly to H1) I am not getting a signal into the H1. I have tried Rode but they have no solution. Any ideas? I have confirmed the mic works with the filmmaker kit and the SC3 and H1 are working fine with other setups.
This setup works with a non-rode mic that has a male end with 3 black rings (with the rode sc3 adapter). The filmmaker kit mic with micron has 2 black rings. I can only assume the micron fit is causing issues.
Hi, the microphone which came with my RODELink kits also came with the TRS Micon connector and works fine into the H1 without any adapters. Is this what you're trying to do?
Thanks for your quick reply Curtis, yes, but it does not fit. It will push all the way in but once released it springs back out. tried on 2 different H1's