The Porsche driver was deliberately stirring the Porsche in the wrong direction instead of the direction the land rover was skating into. Second deliberate attempt to make Porsche a loser against Land Rover was; if you notice at the end; the diver slammed into the brake when he notices the Porsche moving. Just put me into the Porsche’s driver seat and you can see clear the Porsche going up easily!
DoubleM55 oh wait! They’ve played unfair against famous offroader porsche? Oh yes. It is so cool that macan was pulled out by duster right on the presentation of the car. No wonder with porsche building those off roaders for last 50 years right?
They both have the power and the torque. Contrary to what some people may think a 4x4 system is not that much different from one car to another on these big luxurious suvs they both locking diffs and can send power to right wheels when needed so it all boils down to one thing. How do you put all that power down to the road? TYRES. I am surprised the presenter gave us all those stats apart from the one that matters. He did not mention what tyres they were using. If they were using tyres from same manufacturer with same spec then fair enough range rover wins but if they are different then test kind of inconclusive
+Clive Sinclair i will have you know that 35% of landrovers ever made are still on the road........all the rest made it home....joking aside i have had landrovers in 1 form or another since 1989 as a main car and often worked them beyond the call of duty(7.5 ton was the most a ever tow on road a 12 tone offroad ) and i have only walk home 1 time (it was the newest)and they have all been 15 to 40+ years old
david appleton The old ones are the one that are still working. As you said new ones electronics are a nightmare. And unlike earlier models - you can't repair yourself.
Totally biased in favor of the RR, but the way I see, Range Rover, good on road, Porsche excellent on road, Range Rover, Excellent off road, Porsche good off road.
+AutosReview exactly what i thought, its as if he wasnt trying with the porsche, anyway, both good cars.. you cant beat the interior and the PDK gearbox though, thats what i think, im not sure if you feel the same...
Firstly that was the most biased review I have ever watched! What Steve says at 1:03 is so biased, he makes out that the Range Rover is perfect and the most luxurious and refined car ever and that the Porsche is shit apart from it's speed! The Porsche has an amazing, and sporty interior with a better and more responsive centre console, also the suspension can be soft if you change the PASM (Porsche Active Suspension Management) setting to Comfort. So Steve the Range Rover is not '"much more accomplished.'" Now, when you went off road in the Range Rover you clearly used the All Terrain Response 2 and manually selected Mud Ruts, which good as it locks the front, centre and read differential. However when you went in the Porsche you did lock the front, centre and rear differential at 3:34 but just before you started to drive at 3:45 you can see that only the centre and rear differentials are locked since the front differential lock button is not lit up. You cheat and lie there for giving the Porsche and unfair disadvantage. Another point is that when you drive up the hill in the Range Rover you leave muddy slippery tracks 3:03, which you then deliberately drive the Porsche into 3:53 which makes it harder to climb as well as not having the front differential locked. Then you gloat that Range Rover is amazing and only struggles for '"half a second"' 4:12 which is a lie as it struggles for grip from 2:57 to 3:04 which is seven seconds. Finally when you race them together you give the Porsche disadvantages and the Range Rover advantages. Firstly the Range Rover is approximately 1.5 metres in front of the Porsche which is unfair and cheating 4:49. Secondly the man driving the Porsche does a bad start compared to Steve has he flaws it, making the Porsche's wheels spin for longer 4:49. Thirdly the Porsche is driven on the wet and slippery mud for longer as the Range Rover is closer to the grass. Fourthly the Porsche driver accelerates into the muddy and slippier tracks so has far less traction than the Range Rover which drives up the grass 4:52. Fifthly Steve drives the Range Rover across the side of the field which a far less steep gradient 5:08 whereas the Porsche driver goes straight. Sixthly whenever Porsche driver accelerates in the patch of mud and edges forward the driver slams the breaks on and stops it moving 5:13 again unfair. Lastly I think that the Porsche driver didn't turn any differentials on, so the Range Rover would win, because at 5:14 the front wheels aren't moving whereas the rear are, this again happens 5:51. This would not be possible if the centre differential lock was on. Last of all Steve exclaims that the Range Rover is better on road which it clearly isn't has it's far heavier, has a far slower top speed and 0-60 time, has far less mpg, emits more co2 and lastly is larger so more difficult to park and maneuver. Autocar I hope you read this comment as it has taken me time to write it and get evidence for my points. This is a fair and accurate comment which I do not want you to take harshly. This is simply what I have seen and critiqued. I am still subscribed to your channel. Sincerely Zac
Zac Kirstein First of all how do you voice your opinion so professionally when you have never driven Porsche or Range Rover??? And Second of all... if you had invested your time in working rather than writing a 3500-word comment you would be able to buy both cars now...
R.B James. i think you must be a sad person. He DOES NOT need to drive either to be able to observe the obvious. And before you say anything silly to me. I have a 2014 cayenne turbo s and a 2016 rr sport svr and I live in dubai and I can tell you first hand. This review was completely inaccurate, whether it was intentional or not by the reviewers, it sure is not accurate. The range rover would DEFINITELY seem more comfortable, notice how its running on much smaller wheels than the cayenne. I can rest assure you, range rover still have alot to learn from porsche when it comes to air suspension :)
Been In both. Range rover is better. Look at most famous people. E.g. Gordian Ramsay have a Range rover to be choufered in. (Excuse the spelling) but we all have different opinions and in mine range rover is better
I own a range rover and it's pretty badass offroad and on road we just recently pulled a 4x4 ford f250 out of the mud where it had buried itself with ease no tire spin and it was raining pretty good range rover is a very good all around vehicle
bigkarl24 It is better, that's how it's always been. The Range Rover IS the best off roader and neither Porsche or anyone else has come up with something better.
thanks for this amazing off road test. especially when porsche has track tyres against all terrain tyres weared range rover. I was going to buy a cayenne until this video. but now I am absolutely ordering a range rover. thanks again for your priceless unbiased test👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻
Look at how much the cayenne yawed when it lost traction, the Range Rover remained almost completely straight. Of course it did have the advantage of all season tires, while I think the cayenne turbo would probably have P Zeros.
This is the second time Autocar has compared a Range Rover's off road capability to the Porsche. First here, and then with the Sport. Both times the "off-road" course was a bit of mud. I'm sorry there is more to off road riding then a bit off mud...
You gotta consider the cost of these cars. For the price of a cayenne turbo you could have 2 top of the range land cruisers, No one is going to crash about in a cayenne when they can get much better results for half the price. The real reason people buy these fancy 4x4's is because they freak about about kids safety, they like having a big boot, they like being able to drive over curbs and speed bumps, crossing a field really is about the most these cars would do. The range rover off road performance is largely a marketing tool so they can claim they have the best 4x4 in the world, and it gives their discovery/defender 4x4s some credence to the customers who are much more likely to go off roading.
I agree... But this is probably what that vast majority of owners will do in real life. I think we all know the Range Rover would out do the Porsche by a long way if it was a tough test. Still... I quite enjoyed this
Let me tell you a very important point about off road tests.Most important part is TIRES. Porsche is using sports 21 low profile summer tires which is deadly for off road while Range Rover is using all season higher profile with smaller wheels.So if you are really performing a fare test put same tires and wheels(in size) on both cars and try it! It seems you are trying to show something which you like yourself :-) something like nationality of cars or passion on British cars.
@@sfrerku I know your response is years old but you are wrong when applying those rules to off road use. A higher tire profile and softer rubber (or less tire pressure) give an advantage off road. A wide tire will have more trouble clearing the mud and once the shallow tread is clogged up the car will skid like on skates. This is why off road tires are usually narrower and have higher tread. Have you ever seen tally car tires? They are narrow and have high sidewalls. So Range Rover here has a clear advantage. It’s been fitted with 20 inch wheels with a taller sidewall tires, whereas the Cayenne is wearing the largest possible at the time 21 inch wheel with a low profile performance tire. What you are saying is only correct on the road, and the Cayenne will outperform the Range Rover on the road every time.
In addition to what Zac said, they have also used 21 inch wheels on low profile tyres in the Cayenne and not the higher profile all season tyres that are available, making it a more fair test.
Seriously guys, this is joke.Firstly If you look at the starting line from the start position porsche and range are not equal because Porsche side is very muddy ,no grass and quite step than range side.On the other hand range went to around the hill.This is not a fair test by the way range british car and we watched british auto car channel
the Range Rover feels like a Rose Royce with giant off road ability, with stock road tires. And I ain't joking. It's powerful, but it's so comfy you just want to cruise.
correct but it might be the case that the range beats the porsche offroad but a porsche is still a porsche and rover is still a rover everyone knows what that means.brand image set aside a brit journalist should never never do a review for a brit car it should lacks credibility right off the bat same goes for americans reviewing american cars or german reviewing german cars especially when they are doing a comparison with a foreign car . it just doesnt make any sense.
I agree; the Brits are completely bias to Porsche; the same person drove them both up and they both easily went up; why is it that all of a sudden Porsche can't go up the same way it did in the first test? The guy behind the Porsche's wheels should be ashamed of himself!
I know a lot of people dislike this video but I thought it was great. It was just meant to be a simple, funny off road mess about rather than which car is the best for heavy off road use. Clearly the Range Rover would win that. I do like the way you have an old Defender there to pull them both out if they get stuck LOL shows technology can't beat old fashioned grunt and mechanics
Judging from his comment of "Range Rover 1 - Porsche 0", this guy still has anger from the football matches of Germany vs England where Germany almost always wins. Hahaha! Hater. Let it burn.
At 3:39 on the instrument cluster, is it normal to see a warning triangle when center differential lock engages? Or was there a center differential fault on this car? I noted this same warning triangle on a 2011 Cayenne Turbo last week and have decided not to buy the car thinking it is a fault. Someone please enlighten me. Thanks.
I love the Autocar videos as they are usually greatly informative and good fun and the drivers know exactly what they are doing. Not today however. Still good fun to watch two very capable vehicles messed with and played with when we all kow that neither of them have reasonable tires for the task. Really, where is the Jeep Wrangler Unlimited in this test? Half the price. Actually a third of the price and it would eat its way up that hill spraying mud all over those two pretty trucks.
I agree that this was hardly a tough off road test but maybe that was intended to give the Porsche a chance (think about that before you accuse the reviewer of bias.) In a real off road challenge with steep drops, deep water, massive rocks and obstacles, the Porsche would have been totally humiliated.
Look at videos of the cayenne off road, it will be a big surprise for you! The cayenne is very very very good at off road, and it can compete with Range Rover easily.
OK, I've spent the last hour trolling through Cayenne reviews and off-road comparisons with the Range Rover Sport, and I will admit to being quite surprised at what the Cayenne can do off road. I didn't see any reviews that suggested it was better than the RR but some had them pretty close and on a typical off road course there was nothing to separate them. However, the majority still gave the off-road edge to the RR and bear in mind that this was the RR sport which is a more road focused variant. All the tests I could find online seem to be on forest tracks, steep hills and deep water but nothing with proper obstacles. I've yet to see a Cayenne being put through the most extreme off road tests that Range Rovers are subjected to. The Cayenne surprised me, it does perform well off road but nobody could seriously suggest that it competes with the RR. For one thing, the adjustable air suspension doesn't give the same ground clearance as the RR system and also the Traction Management system only offers 3 terrain options whereas the RR Terrain Response system offers 5. The latest generation Cayenne also doesn't have a dual transfer case I'm not knocking it, in most off road situations it would be excellent and it obviously wins on road, but for sheer off road ability Land Rover need not worry.
Neil Justin My dad owns a Cayenne, and I wouldn't call it very brilliant off road wise. Granted, it's actually more capable than being just a sporty SUV, but small things such as a low exhaust pipe wouldn't really help when you need to do some rock crawling. The Range Rover fares much better in that respect...
Neil Justin Also, my dad's Cayenne comes with those 21 inch rims with Pirelli SUV Zeros. No way are they made for offroading. Very much track/road biased. The sidewalls are very soft, which can lead to punctures or bulging when offroading...
Actually just watched it again and contrary to what AC were trying to achieve, ergo allow the RR win over the Porsche by disadvantaging the Cayenne deliberately it has made me want the Porsche over the RR. When you have to make a point to show one better than the other by unfair advantage you are actually doing the RR a dis-service. If I were RR I would be annoyed by this test because it looks as if the only way RR can beat the Porsche is to be unfair to the Porsche, hence the Porsche is probably the better car. We can't win fairly so we will cheat. If I were driving the Porsche I would have done as the RR did, turn the wheels down hill got some motion, slide down to the less steep slope and then gun it up the less steep part of the hill.
Guy in the Porsche gives up. It's clear from the footage all both drivers needed to do was slide, skid or whatever onto a fresh patch of grass to regain traction.
They forget to mention that as soon as the RR gets to the top it probably falls apart. Its a very unreliable car have got one and it spends more time in the garage than on the road. When they work they are amazing.... But the poor British quality cannot compare to the advanced German engineering.
Shouldn't the Range have been in the "grass, gravel, and snow" mode? It may have been a little muddy, but there were no ruts. I bet it'd have performed even better...
As usual the English are cheating as in the single runs both cars went up the same part of the hill while in the comparison they put the Porsche in trajectory with the steeper part of the hill and the Range on the less steep side (in fact Porsche got stuck while Range drifted 30meters to the right untill it got to a mildly steep section and went up). Exchanging car positions probably would have given opposite results judging on how both cars we badly slipping around.
Range rover is not only waaaaay better than the porsche. its the best all round 4x4 in the world. best combination of off road capability looks comfort and pulling power. and if you have sat or driven in one you will agree im sure.
KISS MY Cayenne ASS ... you spent more than half of the track not moving in the Porsche and you expect it to win? at least it didn't drift. "Porsche Cayenne is a Tank-GTI" ... Jeremy Clarkson
Perhaps, but the rr is just a little very little bit better than the porsche off road and the porsche is just a little very little bit better than the rr on road
The most biased review I have ever watched! What Steve says at 1:03 is so biased, he makes out that the Range Rover is perfect and the most luxurious and refined car ever and that the Porsche is shit apart from it's speed! The Porsche has an amazing, and sporty interior with a better and more responsive centre console, also the suspension can be soft if you change the PASM (Porsche Active Suspension Management) setting to Comfort. So Steve the Range Rover is not '"much more accomplished.'" Another point is that when you drive up the hill in the Range Rover you leave muddy slippery tracks 3:03, over which you then deliberately drive the Porsche into 3:53 which makes it harder to climb. Also when diving the Porsche your hands were playing a lot with the steering wheel. Then you gloat that Range Rover is amazing and only struggles for '"half a second"' 4:12 which is a lie as it struggles for grip from 2:57 to 3:04 which is seven seconds and the Porsche was even faster going up. Finally when you race them together you give the Porsche disadvantages and the Range Rover advantages. Firstly the Range Rover is approximately 1.5 metres in front of the Porsche which is unfair and cheating 4:49. Secondly the man driving the Porsche does a bad start compared to Steve has he flaws it, making the Porsche's wheels spin for longer 4:49. Thirdly the Porsche is driven on the WET and SLIPPERY MUD SIDE for longer as the Range Rover is closer to the GRASS. Fourthly the Porsche driver ACCELERATES into the muddy and slippier tracks so has far less traction than the Range Rover which drives up the grass whith smoother control from the driver 4:52. Fifthly Steve drives the Range Rover ACROSS THE SIDE of the field which a far less steep gradient 5:08 whereas the Porsche driver goes STRAIGHT. Sixthly whenever Porsche driver accelerates in the patch of mud and edges forward the driver slams the breaks on and stops it moving 5:13 again unfair. Lastly I think that the Porsche driver didn't turn any differentials on, so the Range Rover would win, because at 5:14 the front wheels aren't moving whereas the rear are, this again happens 5:51. This would not be possible if the centre differential lock was on. Last of all Steve exclaims that the Range Rover is better on road which it clearly isn't has it's far heavier, has a far slower top speed and 0-60 time, has far less mpg, emits more co2 and lastly is larger so more difficult to park and maneuver. Autocar I hope you read this comment as it has taken me time to write it and get evidence for my points. This is a fair and accurate comment which I do not want you to take harshly. This is simply what I have seen and critiqued. I am still subscribed to your channel. We know you as being Brits wanth the Land Rover to win. But lets face it, the Porsche Cayenne Turbo S is by far the best SUV on the market. Based from Zac.
Slippery mud does not count for an off road test. The tyres will make all the difference. No point proved here at all, what about off road deflection, and by the way I own a 2014 Range rover supercharged V8. This is a ridiculous review that does not test off road performance at all...
Did you guys notice? There was bias against Porsche; especially the driver who was driving Porsche; you what; put a German driver on the Porsche driver’s seat and you’ll see a different result!
I'll just copy/paste my previous response: "You sir are just a fanboy...I like porsche, in fact I love everything that has to do with Germany since I'm half german...but let porsche be were they belong, on the road...and let Land Rovers be where they belong, where there are NO roads...they didn't get the fame of being the best 4x4's for nothing you know? Put offroad tires to both the Cayenne and the RR, and put them in a real offroad test, not this lame thing, and you'll see. Also, I'm quite sure everything else this man said about the comfort and luxuriousness (if that's a word) of the RR over the porsche is true...there is just NO other SUV as luxurious and equiped as a RR...and it probably won't be either in the future"
Sebastián Frerk a pitty you cant realize how incredibly and absolutely biased this test is. a pitty also that you seem to judge cars by prejudice and populism. ps Porsche has won Dakar by the way.
First of all any "car expert" that pronounces it Porsch instead of Porsche (ProshUH) is automatically discredited. Second of all, when the Porsche got "stuck" and couldn't climb the hill the 2nd time it was clearly about 10 feet behind the Range Rover and in 3 feet of mud, where as the Rover was half way in the grass to start. Also, you can have the most powerful vehicle in the world but it all boils down to the tires and how much grip it has. A Ford Focus could beat both of those cars if it were fitted with better gripping tires.
Correction - the last word (properly spelt) is 'tyres'. This is a German v English car test. So if you want to tell everyone how to pronounce words, at least learn how to spell in English. Danke.
You seem very keen to correct other people, so as this was a German V English car test - I thought it worth pointing out that you too needed 'correcting'. If it has been a German V American car, I would have understood the use of American. And by the way, it is " you're " ... not " your ". A common mistake these days unfortunately. You never know, some people might get a little peeved at being 'corrected'. Don't worry about it - it's just my English humour. You see, over here, no one cares if you say Porsch. We all know what know what he means.
and also if you are a lover of cars (petrol head) then it shouldnt matter where a car is from or how you say it, all that should matter is that if that car is any good or not. and not being funny but in this case the range rover will chew and spit out the porsche in every way. looks is a personal thing admittedly but performance on and off road no one can honestly say the porsche is better.
thomas joyce Well, you should try to see it with the view of a German. Germans like to compete because they have something to compete with and the Rover is a great car. It is actually not a real new car because it is still based on BMW development but good enough to wear the badge. Anyhow from our view it is funny to see that the Indians bought Jaguar and Rover. I heard that Tata is also in negotiations with Morgan and by the way, do you know that the Deutsche Bahn has also overtaken the EWS in the UK, which also operates the British Royal Train (The Train of her Majesty). LOL
With three diff locked what prevented three porche going up the hill the first time so what stopped it the second time?? -__- Plus to much speed the first time in the porche caused it to act like the rover in the race
for everyone crying over the Porsche, the Range Rover will always be the king of the off road and 4x4 cars plain and simple. Porsche can stick to their little race toys because that's what they do best.
+Daniel Swift King of the Off Road? LOL Toyota and Jeep spank that Range Rover ass in almost every test. The King of visiting the dealer for breaking down every other day, yes. I have a 1 year old RR and it spends more time in the shop than at my house. Pile of crap!
+Igor K Are you two really that stupid? It clearly says that I have a one year old Range Rover, not one from the 80's! You speaking on things you know nothing about even though your answer is spelled out clearly for you is really quite insulting! Try to read this now and read it many times over or ask me to retype it slowly so you wont miss it. It's a 2015 Range Rover 4.4 SDV8!
Tle last run has the RR starting on fresh grass and the cayenne on mud. The traction was not equal. The test prior to that showed the RR struggle on first pass on fresh grass and the the cayenne had some issues until it found fresh grass, proving that it is a bias test. Why did they not let the porsche go up first and have the RR follow in slippy mudd tracks..
Lol apparently the Cayenne is sh*t off-road, they just prooved that. British classic elegance beats anabolic German junkie on steroids. An SUV just made to fast drive your hyperactive child on German Autobahn to school in high heels.
"Thank you for making a fantastic car because it can get up a hill thats any formula 1 car could get up. im really getting sick of these reviews where the content is A boaring and B un impressive
The Porsche, yes, awful car. _But_ the Range Rover is actually useful. Imagine you are wealthy. Imagine that you have some land. A lot of land. And you wish to pursue some of the sport that your land offers. A bit of shooting perhaps. Well. Your Rolls or Bentley would become stuck, no? And a Defender or Land Cruiser is a bit... lower middle. Essentially a car for peasants. So you get a Range Rover. Simple. Of course, for normal people, buy a Defender. Infinitely reconfigurable even in stock patterns, and brilliant off road stock, and unstoppable when modified.
Put good tires on Subaru forester xt and it will go up the hill. Range Rover better offroad than a Turbo Cayenne...ummm ya, I hope so. Let me guess..racetrack the Cayenne wins?
+Greg Laurence but you see, the prosche cayenne competes against the range rover SPORT, not the fat original range rover, the range rover sport v8 supercharged SVR is better than the porsche cayenne turbo both on track and offroad.
Not sure why people are bitching about the tyres. That's what both cars come stock with. If you want to talk about changing tyres, then why not the fuck I argue about putting some M/Ts on the Range Rover???
Only in England does anyone get impressed with "off-roading" up a wet grass field... then brag about beating a Porsche with road speed tread tyres. Try putting a decent off-road tyre on each of them and retry this stunt. Then come on out to Colorado and try some real off-roading, not the gentleman's gaunt across a field. Sorry guys, this is a set-up to show off the Rover. (I like Rover's, but I would rather drive the Porsche)
Porsche Traction Management needs constant gas to lock the spinning wheels and transfer the power to wheels with grip, not slamming the pedal and letting it go.
Wow driving up grassy hills and through 3 inches of mud. Brilliant off road testing.
But perhaps the only relevant tests to prospective buyers though...
The Porsche driver was deliberately stirring the Porsche in the wrong direction instead of the direction the land rover was skating into. Second deliberate attempt to make Porsche a loser against Land Rover was; if you notice at the end; the diver slammed into the brake when he notices the Porsche moving. Just put me into the Porsche’s driver seat and you can see clear the Porsche going up easily!
Lets see real offroading and that Porsche will fail!
Yup. I saw that too
I own a Porsche Cayenne 2023 myself and I have never problem with such off-road conditions.
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it's a bit of a joke the way that test was done.
WOW, what a great test!! They actually showed without the doubt, that range rover had better tires than cayenne... Amazing!
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Wow you sound sooooo Salty!
DoubleM55 oh wait! They’ve played unfair against famous offroader porsche? Oh yes. It is so cool that macan was pulled out by duster right on the presentation of the car. No wonder with porsche building those off roaders for last 50 years right?
@Mr. Cairo some dream about that!
They both have the power and the torque. Contrary to what some people may think a 4x4 system is not that much different from one car to another on these big luxurious suvs they both locking diffs and can send power to right wheels when needed so it all boils down to one thing. How do you put all that power down to the road? TYRES. I am surprised the presenter gave us all those stats apart from the one that matters. He did not mention what tyres they were using. If they were using tyres from same manufacturer with same spec then fair enough range rover wins but if they are different then test kind of inconclusive
That Range Rover is amazing....... Can't believe it went up the hill twice without breaking down!
+Clive Sinclair i will have you know that 35% of landrovers ever made are still on the road........all the rest made it home....joking aside i have had landrovers in 1 form or another since 1989 as a main car and often worked them beyond the call of duty(7.5 ton was the most a ever tow on road a 12 tone offroad ) and i have only walk home 1 time (it was the newest)and they have all been 15 to 40+ years old
david appleton The old ones are the one that are still working. As you said new ones electronics are a nightmare. And unlike earlier models - you can't repair yourself.
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Totally biased in favor of the RR, but the way I see, Range Rover, good on road, Porsche excellent on road, Range Rover, Excellent off road, Porsche good off road.
definitely agreed.
And as most RR's will never go off road, Cayenne it is.
+AutosReview i think that what the guy say but it was a bit biased
+AutosReview exactly what i thought, its as if he wasnt trying with the porsche, anyway, both good cars.. you cant beat the interior and the PDK gearbox though, thats what i think, im not sure if you feel the same...
Alex Zhai Porsche has a better interior in my opinion.
Firstly that was the most biased review I have ever watched! What Steve says at 1:03 is so biased, he makes out that the Range Rover is perfect and the most luxurious and refined car ever and that the Porsche is shit apart from it's speed! The Porsche has an amazing, and sporty interior with a better and more responsive centre console, also the suspension can be soft if you change the PASM (Porsche Active Suspension Management) setting to Comfort. So Steve the Range Rover is not '"much more accomplished.'"
Now, when you went off road in the Range Rover you clearly used the All Terrain Response 2 and manually selected Mud Ruts, which good as it locks the front, centre and read differential. However when you went in the Porsche you did lock the front, centre and rear differential at 3:34 but just before you started to drive at 3:45 you can see that only the centre and rear differentials are locked since the front differential lock button is not lit up. You cheat and lie there for giving the Porsche and unfair disadvantage.
Another point is that when you drive up the hill in the Range Rover you leave muddy slippery tracks 3:03, which you then deliberately drive the Porsche into 3:53 which makes it harder to climb as well as not having the front differential locked. Then you gloat that Range Rover is amazing and only struggles for '"half a second"' 4:12 which is a lie as it struggles for grip from 2:57 to 3:04 which is seven seconds.
Finally when you race them together you give the Porsche disadvantages and the Range Rover advantages. Firstly the Range Rover is approximately 1.5 metres in front of the Porsche which is unfair and cheating 4:49. Secondly the man driving the Porsche does a bad start compared to Steve has he flaws it, making the Porsche's wheels spin for longer 4:49. Thirdly the Porsche is driven on the wet and slippery mud for longer as the Range Rover is closer to the grass. Fourthly the Porsche driver accelerates into the muddy and slippier tracks so has far less traction than the Range Rover which drives up the grass 4:52. Fifthly Steve drives the Range Rover across the side of the field which a far less steep gradient 5:08 whereas the Porsche driver goes straight. Sixthly whenever Porsche driver accelerates in the patch of mud and edges forward the driver slams the breaks on and stops it moving 5:13 again unfair. Lastly I think that the Porsche driver didn't turn any differentials on, so the Range Rover would win, because at 5:14 the front wheels aren't moving whereas the rear are, this again happens 5:51. This would not be possible if the centre differential lock was on.
Last of all Steve exclaims that the Range Rover is better on road which it clearly isn't has it's far heavier, has a far slower top speed and 0-60 time, has far less mpg, emits more co2 and lastly is larger so more difficult to park and maneuver.
Autocar I hope you read this comment as it has taken me time to write it and get evidence for my points. This is a fair and accurate comment which I do not want you to take harshly. This is simply what I have seen and critiqued. I am still subscribed to your channel.
Sincerely Zac
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Zac Kirstein First of all how do you voice your opinion so professionally when you have never driven Porsche or Range Rover??? And Second of all... if you had invested your time in working rather than writing a 3500-word comment you would be able to buy both cars now...
R.B James. i think you must be a sad person. He DOES NOT need to drive either to be able to observe the obvious. And before you say anything silly to me. I have a 2014 cayenne turbo s and a 2016 rr sport svr and I live in dubai and I can tell you first hand. This review was completely inaccurate, whether it was intentional or not by the reviewers, it sure is not accurate.
The range rover would DEFINITELY seem more comfortable, notice how its running on much smaller wheels than the cayenne. I can rest assure you, range rover still have alot to learn from porsche when it comes to air suspension :)
Been In both. Range rover is better. Look at most famous people. E.g. Gordian Ramsay have a Range rover to be choufered in. (Excuse the spelling) but we all have different opinions and in mine range rover is better
I own a range rover and it's pretty badass offroad and on road we just recently pulled a 4x4 ford f250 out of the mud where it had buried itself with ease no tire spin and it was raining pretty good range rover is a very good all around vehicle
Of course the UK. Will make the range rover seem better lol.
bigkarl24 because it is
+ Bigkarl24 The same like Top gear hahah but the are nice looking cars but breaking all the time specially
the gearbox
Drew M to many problems with RANGE gear box its shit ! Just go for Porsche ore X5 BMW
Juliya Sakal have you ever driven a Range Rover the gearbox is nice stop making shit up
bigkarl24 It is better, that's how it's always been. The Range Rover IS the best off roader and neither Porsche or anyone else has come up with something better.
Typical british car review...
Now its owner is Indian
Now Rang rover is Indian company Suv not British
Yh what a pity. So ashaming...
Owned by an Indian but designed, engineered and built in the UK
@@w33d1066 And spends more time in a repair shop than on the road. Thx but no thx.
Probably comes down to tires more than anything. Love to try that in my Subaru.
thanks for this amazing off road test. especially when porsche has track tyres against all terrain tyres weared range rover. I was going to buy a cayenne until this video. but now I am absolutely ordering a range rover. thanks again for your priceless unbiased test👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻
It actually depends what tyres were used, I bet Porsche had some sporty ones, and LR had more like offroad tyres.
they both spent the same time at the beginning of offroad test but the driver is just a fan of Range Rover.
Look at how much the cayenne yawed when it lost traction, the Range Rover remained almost completely straight.
Of course it did have the advantage of all season tires, while I think the cayenne turbo would probably have P Zeros.
Off road tires make a difference
This is the second time Autocar has compared a Range Rover's off road capability to the Porsche. First here, and then with the Sport. Both times the "off-road" course was a bit of mud. I'm sorry there is more to off road riding then a bit off mud...
True, but that's about the extent that 99% of these cars sold will see in terms of off road.
***** perhaps the old range rovers, the new ones are so wired up with technology that they wont last long
You gotta consider the cost of these cars. For the price of a cayenne turbo you could have 2 top of the range land cruisers, No one is going to crash about in a cayenne when they can get much better results for half the price. The real reason people buy these fancy 4x4's is because they freak about about kids safety, they like having a big boot, they like being able to drive over curbs and speed bumps, crossing a field really is about the most these cars would do. The range rover off road performance is largely a marketing tool so they can claim they have the best 4x4 in the world, and it gives their discovery/defender 4x4s some credence to the customers who are much more likely to go off roading.
I agree... But this is probably what that vast majority of owners will do in real life. I think we all know the Range Rover would out do the Porsche by a long way if it was a tough test. Still... I quite enjoyed this
Let me tell you a very important point about off road tests.Most important part is TIRES. Porsche is using sports 21 low profile summer tires which is deadly for off road while Range Rover is using all season higher profile with smaller wheels.So if you are really performing a fare test put same tires and wheels(in size) on both cars and try it! It seems you are trying to show something which you like yourself :-) something like nationality of cars or passion on British cars.
smaller wheels means less contact, less traction...it's basic physics...so think better before trying to make a point xD
@@sfrerku I know your response is years old but you are wrong when applying those rules to off road use. A higher tire profile and softer rubber (or less tire pressure) give an advantage off road. A wide tire will have more trouble clearing the mud and once the shallow tread is clogged up the car will skid like on skates. This is why off road tires are usually narrower and have higher tread. Have you ever seen tally car tires? They are narrow and have high sidewalls. So Range Rover here has a clear advantage. It’s been fitted with 20 inch wheels with a taller sidewall tires, whereas the Cayenne is wearing the largest possible at the time 21 inch wheel with a low profile performance tire.
What you are saying is only correct on the road, and the Cayenne will outperform the Range Rover on the road every time.
Tires would make a HUGE difference in this test. So unless they are running the same ones, this video is pointless.
Spot on!
@@Oldguynotbaldlol
Wow ur comment is 10 yrs ago
True
In addition to what Zac said, they have also used 21 inch wheels on low profile tyres in the Cayenne and not the higher profile all season tyres that are available, making it a more fair test.
yall need mud tires/ AT tires these are street tires and that mud is slimy
So the range took the less steep part of the hill and look at the tyre profile difference get a grip auto car.
After this test .. Porsche when to car wash and Range Rover to mechanic 🤪😂😂😂
I think that the central dif of the Porscher wasnt locked when it got stucked
my guess is you need to put exactly the same tires on both cars to relay know what is what!
Seriously guys, this is joke.Firstly If you look at the starting line from the start position porsche and range are not equal because Porsche side is very muddy ,no grass and quite step than range side.On the other hand range went to around the hill.This is not a fair test by the way range british car and we watched british auto car channel
you actually get more traction in mud than you do on wet grass
Very impressive test of sliding on mud with slick-tyres :D
The Porsche had road tires(tyres) and the Range had on/off road compliant tires. Do the test again with same tires and then your done. ^_^
that's british motor journalism for you.
You should've done the test again but the cars exchanging sides of the road, as it seems as if the Porsche's side is muddier.
the Range Rover feels like a Rose Royce with giant off road ability, with stock road tires.
And I ain't joking. It's powerful, but it's so comfy you just want to cruise.
That is the most Bias bullshit I have ever seen! read Zac's comment!
correct but it might be the case that the range beats the porsche offroad but a porsche is still a porsche and rover is still a rover everyone knows what that means.brand image set aside a brit journalist should never never do a review for a brit car it should lacks credibility right off the bat same goes for americans reviewing american cars or german reviewing german cars especially when they are doing a comparison with a foreign car . it just doesnt make any sense.
I agree; the Brits are completely bias to Porsche; the same person drove them both up and they both easily went up; why is it that all of a sudden Porsche can't go up the same way it did in the first test? The guy behind the Porsche's wheels should be ashamed of himself!
I know a lot of people dislike this video but I thought it was great. It was just meant to be a simple, funny off road mess about rather than which car is the best for heavy off road use. Clearly the Range Rover would win that. I do like the way you have an old Defender there to pull them both out if they get stuck LOL shows technology can't beat old fashioned grunt and mechanics
The LR has all season tires on.
possibly the most biased test
Judging from his comment of "Range Rover 1 - Porsche 0", this guy still has anger from the football matches of Germany vs England where Germany almost always wins. Hahaha! Hater. Let it burn.
rubbish test. both cars were one different parts of the mud. which means different traction.
Same tires, tire sizes & air pressures?
At 3:39 on the instrument cluster, is it normal to see a warning triangle when center differential lock engages? Or was there a center differential fault on this car? I noted this same warning triangle on a 2011 Cayenne Turbo last week and have decided not to buy the car thinking it is a fault. Someone please enlighten me. Thanks.
No that is normal
I love the Autocar videos as they are usually greatly informative and good fun and the drivers know exactly what they are doing. Not today however. Still good fun to watch two very capable vehicles messed with and played with when we all kow that neither of them have reasonable tires for the task. Really, where is the Jeep Wrangler Unlimited in this test? Half the price. Actually a third of the price and it would eat its way up that hill spraying mud all over those two pretty trucks.
Range is on the grass, Porsche in the mud. Porsche has wider tires than Range. Anyway Fiat Panda 4x4 would be better of them all.
This video was brought to you by Land Rover Range Rover.
I agree that this was hardly a tough off road test but maybe that was intended to give the Porsche a chance (think about that before you accuse the reviewer of bias.) In a real off road challenge with steep drops, deep water, massive rocks and obstacles, the Porsche would have been totally humiliated.
You have NO idea what a Cayenne can do, but thats OK, you don't believe it if you don't see it...
Look at videos of the cayenne off road, it will be a big surprise for you!
The cayenne is very very very good at off road, and it can compete with Range Rover easily.
OK, I've spent the last hour trolling through Cayenne reviews and off-road comparisons with the Range Rover Sport, and I will admit to being quite surprised at what the Cayenne can do off road. I didn't see any reviews that suggested it was better than the RR but some had them pretty close and on a typical off road course there was nothing to separate them. However, the majority still gave the off-road edge to the RR and bear in mind that this was the RR sport which is a more road focused variant. All the tests I could find online seem to be on forest tracks, steep hills and deep water but nothing with proper obstacles. I've yet to see a Cayenne being put through the most extreme off road tests that Range Rovers are subjected to. The Cayenne surprised me, it does perform well off road but nobody could seriously suggest that it competes with the RR. For one thing, the adjustable air suspension doesn't give the same ground clearance as the RR system and also the Traction Management system only offers 3 terrain options whereas the RR Terrain Response system offers 5. The latest generation Cayenne also doesn't have a dual transfer case I'm not knocking it, in most off road situations it would be excellent and it obviously wins on road, but for sheer off road ability Land Rover need not worry.
Neil Justin My dad owns a Cayenne, and I wouldn't call it very brilliant off road wise. Granted, it's actually more capable than being just a sporty SUV, but small things such as a low exhaust pipe wouldn't really help when you need to do some rock crawling. The Range Rover fares much better in that respect...
Neil Justin Also, my dad's Cayenne comes with those 21 inch rims with Pirelli SUV Zeros. No way are they made for offroading. Very much track/road biased. The sidewalls are very soft, which can lead to punctures or bulging when offroading...
the porsche is waaaaaaaaaaaaaaay better
Better In Stuck
Actually just watched it again and contrary to what AC were trying to achieve, ergo allow the RR win over the Porsche by disadvantaging the Cayenne deliberately it has made me want the Porsche over the RR. When you have to make a point to show one better than the other by unfair advantage you are actually doing the RR a dis-service. If I were RR I would be annoyed by this test because it looks as if the only way RR can beat the Porsche is to be unfair to the Porsche, hence the Porsche is probably the better car. We can't win fairly so we will cheat. If I were driving the Porsche I would have done as the RR did, turn the wheels down hill got some motion, slide down to the less steep slope and then gun it up the less steep part of the hill.
test car? test tire
I think the point which porsche has started was more muddy and range rover was ahead of porsche ! its look like unfair!
I think both vehicles had similar tyres, so the test is still valid.
Somehow The ¨Tester¨ looks biased. More money in the RR glovebox?
Guy in the Porsche gives up. It's clear from the footage all both drivers needed to do was slide, skid or whatever onto a fresh patch of grass to regain traction.
They forget to mention that as soon as the RR gets to the top it probably falls apart. Its a very unreliable car have got one and it spends more time in the garage than on the road. When they work they are amazing.... But the poor British quality cannot compare to the advanced German engineering.
British quality is now very good. Before when british Leyland was a thing it was bad though
Shouldn't the Range have been in the "grass, gravel, and snow" mode? It may have been a little muddy, but there were no ruts. I bet it'd have performed even better...
Still can't wait for the day Porsche announces : you know, these big Porsches, it was just for laughs. We now are going to only build racecars again.
normal road tyres or off road tyres used in this test?
Would not even have put the Rangie in low range for a little hill like that. :-)
As usual the English are cheating as in the single runs both cars went up the same part of the hill while in the comparison they put the Porsche in trajectory with the steeper part of the hill and the Range on the less steep side (in fact Porsche got stuck while Range drifted 30meters to the right untill it got to a mildly steep section and went up).
Exchanging car positions probably would have given opposite results judging on how both cars we badly slipping around.
Range rover is not only waaaaay better than the porsche. its the best all round 4x4 in the world. best combination of off road capability looks comfort and pulling power. and if you have sat or driven in one you will agree im sure.
Off road only, on the road the Porsche is way superior. They're different cars for different occasions.
same tires? dang, I am in market for exactly one of these. which is roomier?
Oh my god, Range Rovers set the benchmark. That Porsche is more an urban cruiser. I'd equally love either haha!
I think the Range Rover Sport assuming it can be as capable off-road as its big brother will also threaton that on road dynamism of the Porche
I agree, Range Rover is the future.
KISS MY Cayenne ASS ...
you spent more than half of the track not moving in the Porsche and you expect it to win? at least it didn't drift.
"Porsche Cayenne is a Tank-GTI" ... Jeremy Clarkson
It s all about your tires
this is true, proper soft compound mud terrain tires would make %500 difference off road
so how do both fair on a narrow road when they both seem to slide sideways so much?
I love Range Rovers and I know how good they are but this review doesn't give the Porsche a fair fight.
4:46 why the porsche is more in the back than the rover?? and why he has more mud to cross? ...perhaps to be disadvantaged..
Perhaps, but the rr is just a little very little bit better than the porsche off road and the porsche is just a little very little bit better than the rr on road
The most biased review I have ever watched! What Steve says at 1:03 is so biased, he makes out that the Range Rover is perfect and the most luxurious and refined car ever and that the Porsche is shit apart from it's speed! The Porsche has an amazing, and sporty interior with a better and more responsive centre console, also the suspension can be soft if you change the PASM (Porsche Active Suspension Management) setting to Comfort. So Steve the Range Rover is not '"much more accomplished.'"
Another point is that when you drive up the hill in the Range Rover you leave muddy slippery tracks 3:03, over which you then deliberately drive the Porsche into 3:53 which makes it harder to climb.
Also when diving the Porsche your hands were playing a lot with the steering wheel.
Then you gloat that Range Rover is amazing and only struggles for '"half a second"' 4:12 which is a lie as it struggles for grip from 2:57 to 3:04 which is seven seconds and the Porsche was even faster going up.
Finally when you race them together you give the Porsche disadvantages and the Range Rover advantages. Firstly the Range Rover is approximately 1.5 metres in front of the Porsche which is unfair and cheating 4:49. Secondly the man driving the Porsche does a bad start compared to Steve has he flaws it, making the Porsche's wheels spin for longer 4:49. Thirdly the Porsche is driven on the WET and SLIPPERY MUD SIDE for longer as the Range Rover is closer to the GRASS. Fourthly the Porsche driver ACCELERATES into the muddy and slippier tracks so has far less traction than the Range Rover which drives up the grass whith smoother control from the driver 4:52.
Fifthly Steve drives the Range Rover ACROSS THE SIDE of the field which a far less steep gradient 5:08 whereas the Porsche driver goes STRAIGHT.
Sixthly whenever Porsche driver accelerates in the patch of mud and edges forward the driver slams the breaks on and stops it moving 5:13 again unfair. Lastly I think that the Porsche driver didn't turn any differentials on, so the Range Rover would win, because at 5:14 the front wheels aren't moving whereas the rear are, this again happens 5:51. This would not be possible if the centre differential lock was on.
Last of all Steve exclaims that the Range Rover is better on road which it clearly isn't has it's far heavier, has a far slower top speed and 0-60 time, has far less mpg, emits more co2 and lastly is larger so more difficult to park and maneuver.
Autocar I hope you read this comment as it has taken me time to write it and get evidence for my points. This is a fair and accurate comment which I do not want you to take harshly. This is simply what I have seen and critiqued. I am still subscribed to your channel.
We know you as being Brits wanth the Land Rover to win.
But lets face it, the Porsche Cayenne Turbo S is by far the best SUV on the market.
Based from Zac.
What happens is that you are jealous and you can not admit that Range Rover is much superior
@@TheBlueVaron he is speaking utter crap
@@TheBlueVaron u are just jealous that the car u like won by a biased test 🤣🤣🤣
@@teslafan7753 and you are jealous because you dont have any of the both cars of the real test
Slippery mud does not count for an off road test. The tyres will make all the difference. No point proved here at all, what about off road deflection, and by the way I own a 2014 Range rover supercharged V8. This is a ridiculous review that does not test off road performance at all...
Grass is green, the sky is blue, chocolate is nice and Land Rovers rule :)
Off road tires will help..
I was very disappointed. The headline of this vid says "off road" but the vid showed a wet lawn and two cars with slicks - more or less.
if you actually had a real contest and knew how to drive. IMAGINE!!!
I think it's the typical british view upon a british product :) like " we all favour our own selves dont we"
Land rover is always supreme!!
Last one not the winter Porsche Boxster what are the winter of a costa del past one
Did you guys notice? There was bias against Porsche; especially the driver who was driving Porsche; you what; put a German driver on the Porsche driver’s seat and you’ll see a different result!
Range rover would piss all over that porsche on any real offroading my slammed BMW could have a go at going up that smooth hill!
I'll just copy/paste my previous response:
"You sir are just a fanboy...I like porsche, in fact I love everything that has to do with Germany since I'm half german...but let porsche be were they belong, on the road...and let Land Rovers be where they belong, where there are NO roads...they didn't get the fame of being the best 4x4's for nothing you know? Put offroad tires to both the Cayenne and the RR, and put them in a real offroad test, not this lame thing, and you'll see. Also, I'm quite sure everything else this man said about the comfort and luxuriousness (if that's a word) of the RR over the porsche is true...there is just NO other SUV as luxurious and equiped as a RR...and it probably won't be either in the future"
Sebastián Frerk
a pitty you cant realize how incredibly and absolutely biased this test is. a pitty also that you seem to judge cars by prejudice and populism. ps Porsche has won Dakar by the way.
That is why this video get more dislikes than likes.
Everyone knows, that Range Rover is the best luxury SUV for offroad, and it looks much better than Porsche.
What you didn't see is the range rover fell apart, when the video ended!
Jeremy and the boys need to have a go at this on the Gran Tour. Range Rover vs Porsche vs VW Toureg : The AWD SUV offroad showdown...
Range Rover king on everything! Porsche Cayenne queen on the open road!
Cayenne is no queen..
Cayenne is a BEAST.
First of all any "car expert" that pronounces it Porsch instead of Porsche (ProshUH) is automatically discredited. Second of all, when the Porsche got "stuck" and couldn't climb the hill the 2nd time it was clearly about 10 feet behind the Range Rover and in 3 feet of mud, where as the Rover was half way in the grass to start. Also, you can have the most powerful vehicle in the world but it all boils down to the tires and how much grip it has. A Ford Focus could beat both of those cars if it were fitted with better gripping tires.
Correction - the last word (properly spelt) is 'tyres'. This is a German v English car test. So if you want to tell everyone how to pronounce words, at least learn how to spell in English. Danke.
Okay...I fluently speak American English where it is spelled tires so I don't know what your getting at?
You seem very keen to correct other people, so as this was a German V English car test - I thought it worth pointing out that you too needed 'correcting'. If it has been a German V American car, I would have understood the use of American. And by the way, it is " you're " ... not " your ". A common mistake these days unfortunately.
You never know, some people might get a little peeved at being 'corrected'. Don't worry about it - it's just my English humour. You see, over here, no one cares if you say Porsch. We all know what know what he means.
and also if you are a lover of cars (petrol head) then it shouldnt matter where a car is from or how you say it, all that should matter is that if that car is any good or not. and not being funny but in this case the range rover will chew and spit out the porsche in every way. looks is a personal thing admittedly but performance on and off road no one can honestly say the porsche is better.
thomas joyce
Well, you should try to see it with the view of a German. Germans like to compete because they have something to compete with and the Rover is a great car. It is actually not a real new car because it is still based on BMW development but good enough to wear the badge. Anyhow from our view it is funny to see that the Indians bought Jaguar and Rover. I heard that Tata is also in negotiations with Morgan and by the way, do you know that the Deutsche Bahn has also overtaken the EWS in the UK, which also operates the British Royal Train (The Train of her Majesty). LOL
Range rover 2012 that was nice car for me new 2013 I dont liked thats my opinion
if you want off road buy a jeep, if you want luxury buy the range, if you want a sports car that can also fit your family....buy the Porsche
With three diff locked what prevented three porche going up the hill the first time so what stopped it the second time?? -__-
Plus to much speed the first time in the porche caused it to act like the rover in the race
in reality range roverr is genuinely far better than porche in off road capabilities
but this review was biased
I see your range rover and raise you a Transsiberia Cayenne S
check..
and mate.
for everyone crying over the Porsche, the Range Rover will always be the king of the off road and 4x4 cars plain and simple. Porsche can stick to their little race toys because that's what they do best.
+Daniel Swift
King of the Off Road? LOL
Toyota and Jeep spank that Range Rover ass in almost every test. The King of visiting the dealer for breaking down every other day, yes. I have a 1 year old RR and it spends more time in the shop than at my house. Pile of crap!
Laurencio Romano What year and model is your range rover?
Igor K hahahaha thats what i was thinking lool
+Igor K
Are you two really that stupid? It clearly says that I have a one year old Range Rover, not one from the 80's! You speaking on things you know nothing about even though your answer is spelled out clearly for you is really quite insulting!
Try to read this now and read it many times over or ask me to retype it slowly so you wont miss it. It's a 2015 Range Rover 4.4 SDV8!
Laurencio Romano haha you're full of shit mate. People with $100,000 range rovers dont argue on youtube comments hahahah
i agree that Range won hands down.
what if I told you.. the range rover is actually an amazing car :O
the Porsche could be the best off-road vehicle in the world . . . but its still absolutely gopping to look at.
Tle last run has the RR starting on fresh grass and the cayenne on mud. The traction was not equal. The test prior to that showed the RR struggle on first pass on fresh grass and the the cayenne had some issues until it found fresh grass, proving that it is a bias test. Why did they not let the porsche go up first and have the RR follow in slippy mudd tracks..
It is my dream car 💙💚
The Porsche is absolutely incredible off road not to mention that Porsche had summer tyres
Lol apparently the Cayenne is sh*t off-road, they just prooved that. British classic elegance beats anabolic German junkie on steroids. An SUV just made to fast drive your hyperactive child on German Autobahn to school in high heels.
"Thank you for making a fantastic car because it can get up a hill thats any formula 1 car could get up. im really getting sick of these reviews where the content is A boaring and B un impressive
it doesnt belong to english any more, jaguar and landrover are owned by the Tata motors in India
No
oh yes jag and landrover now belongs to India
That's unfortunate
haha...chuck it
I thought Land Rover was owned by Ford now, is that not correct?
luv range rover
Range rover best off road performance
Range Rover - Porsche - good for nothing. Come to Stralia n I'll show you what a 4wd is! Landcruiser rocks!
The Porsche, yes, awful car. _But_ the Range Rover is actually useful. Imagine you are wealthy. Imagine that you have some land. A lot of land. And you wish to pursue some of the sport that your land offers. A bit of shooting perhaps. Well. Your Rolls or Bentley would become stuck, no? And a Defender or Land Cruiser is a bit... lower middle. Essentially a car for peasants. So you get a Range Rover. Simple.
Of course, for normal people, buy a Defender. Infinitely reconfigurable even in stock patterns, and brilliant off road stock, and unstoppable when modified.
No mate, no
I was wondering why this video has so many dislikes until I got to 4:50.
Put good tires on Subaru forester xt and it will go up the hill. Range Rover better offroad than a Turbo Cayenne...ummm ya, I hope so. Let me guess..racetrack the Cayenne wins?
Bingo
+Greg Laurence but you see, the prosche cayenne competes against the range rover SPORT, not the fat original range rover, the range rover sport v8 supercharged SVR is better than the porsche cayenne turbo both on track and offroad.
Not sure why people are bitching about the tyres. That's what both cars come stock with. If you want to talk about changing tyres, then why not the fuck I argue about putting some M/Ts on the Range Rover???
Only in England does anyone get impressed with "off-roading" up a wet grass field... then brag about beating a Porsche with road speed tread tyres. Try putting a decent off-road tyre on each of them and retry this stunt. Then come on out to Colorado and try some real off-roading, not the gentleman's gaunt across a field. Sorry guys, this is a set-up to show off the Rover. (I like Rover's, but I would rather drive the Porsche)
Of course Porsche didn't win, it got Street tires on the wheels, put somme offroad nud tires on it and then will see
Mihaita Dragan as did the Range Rover 😄
Mihaita Dragan stop bitchin!
THE RANGE ROVER BETTER. You will only understand when you have owned a SVA dynamic. And I can ashore you the RR is best TOP DOG!
Please read my comment since it took me time to write it Autocar.
Stupidest test they had the wrong tires for the job, the porche had low pro street tires.
Porsche Traction Management needs constant gas to lock the spinning wheels and transfer the power to wheels with grip, not slamming the pedal and letting it go.