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  • @keshmo12
    @keshmo12 หลายเดือนก่อน +440

    I've found that if you pay big money in China you get quality. Bought an expensive Chinese road bicycle and the guy asked me like 10 questions to make sure it would fit me before sending it out. And he offered to substitute a more expensive model because the one I wanted one was out of stock. Never got that service from any big name brand bike company. And the bike is surprisingly great quality and lasted so far.

    • @rstelly14
      @rstelly14 หลายเดือนก่อน +175

      China will build what you want, to the price point you want. The problem is most companies want the cheapest option, so we get the cheapest build quality

    • @deezelfairy
      @deezelfairy หลายเดือนก่อน +43

      ​@@rstelly14Yup, China can build top tier stuff.
      But they will cut corners that Western companies won't/can't if you want them to.

    • @coryernewein
      @coryernewein หลายเดือนก่อน

      China builds almost everything, not surprised one bit

    • @wobblysauce
      @wobblysauce หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      Not just big money, but it is a sliding scale, you want cheap you get cheap but there is also value some places charge a lot because some think more means better.

    • @ikonik6286
      @ikonik6286 หลายเดือนก่อน +19

      i dont support the ccp

  • @ako5bcv
    @ako5bcv 12 วันที่ผ่านมา +8

    Their manufacturing is the best 💪 been dealing with them for over ten years, of course there are horror stories as anywhere right ? Personally I had problems to start but now trusted companies I work with there has been no issues 100%

  • @louiskrueger2169
    @louiskrueger2169 หลายเดือนก่อน +48

    Certainly something to see how the vehicles are set up around the world! Really couldnt have expected much from randomly showing up to a manufacturing plant like that, but with the inability to get contact with anyone it was worth the go at it.

  • @redlock4004
    @redlock4004 หลายเดือนก่อน +101

    They have come a loooong way since I was in China in 1976. Back then the country was basically stuck in the 1800's. Very crude. It's sort of cool to see how far they have come in 50 years.

    • @RobJohn80
      @RobJohn80 28 วันที่ผ่านมา +7

      China has finally developed the ability to make ball point pens without the need for imported components.

    • @Mr.Meme01
      @Mr.Meme01 27 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Yeah, and it's fully funded by north America. They've learned everything about engineering from us and on our dollar.

    • @Joemondaking
      @Joemondaking 24 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      @@RobJohn80no thank you for leader Xi?

    • @theolich4384
      @theolich4384 21 วันที่ผ่านมา +4

      Well now looking back it, the mid-1970s was a watershed moment for China. They have already managed to build the industrial capability, albeit a crude one at a VERY high cost, that drastically differed from China of like the 1940s when it was largely agriculture not unlike the centuries before. They also had fostered an educated, motivated, reasonably (by 3rd-world standard) well taken care of workforce that was young at the time. What they lacked were the capital, up-to-date technology, modern management skills and a taste for the market. These began to pour in after 1979 and rest became history.

    • @miketuggle9273
      @miketuggle9273 17 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Its incredible to think how far one can come when stealing is involved.

  • @Totally_Useless
    @Totally_Useless หลายเดือนก่อน +90

    I'm watching this while in China on a business trip for a mining project we're doing. All the suppliers I have met and deal with are very hospitable and only want to make sure you get exactly what you want when you want it

    • @user-er6vd7ty1e
      @user-er6vd7ty1e หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      I bet you think the waitress is being nice because you're cute.

    • @justingeturgun
      @justingeturgun หลายเดือนก่อน +10

      I lived there for 2 years importing jeeps into China. They are the coolest people and China is a great place.

    • @remix-yy1hs
      @remix-yy1hs หลายเดือนก่อน

      ​@@user-er6vd7ty1eI bet you love jews. Being under ben shapiro is your dream come true

    • @diy1.0
      @diy1.0 29 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@justingeturgun China is not as good as India

    • @BillyBob-ix4ui
      @BillyBob-ix4ui 29 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Yeah real patriotic huh

  • @Prisonmike89
    @Prisonmike89 หลายเดือนก่อน +34

    The gas/diesel hybrid with a big battery is what people need. Like toyota has done but in a van. Since most people can't afford housing anymore they can buy a van and live in it and have it be modular with the battery/diesel/solar.

    • @warntheidiotmasses7114
      @warntheidiotmasses7114 17 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      I wouldn't want a camper van with the equivalent of how many sticks of dynomite? I'll keep my diesel thank you very much.

  • @DrFiero
    @DrFiero หลายเดือนก่อน +126

    Before I paid attention to the grill, I thought that Foton was a Toyota!

    • @kb9oak749
      @kb9oak749 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

      Was there a hole in the side of the motor? New Toyotas seem to be doing that.

    • @DrFiero
      @DrFiero หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      @@kb9oak749 - think that was only a factory option on the V6's.

    • @mnblkjh6757
      @mnblkjh6757 หลายเดือนก่อน

      🤣😂

    • @jameshatton4211
      @jameshatton4211 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      Foton have been around in Australia for a long time but up until the recent cosmetic update of all 4x4 pickups homologation of styles.....FOTON actually ran their own style unique style all along? I'm not pro Chinese, but I did find that their styling was much more sedate and it looked "not so Chinese" style.....LDV and Great Wall run massive integrated badging and branding on all their cars! It looks hideous and an almost autistic version of 1990s boy racer vibe to their style.
      So if I was going to buy a Chinese 4x4 pickup I would choose a FOTON purely because it's not Chinese puke 🤮
      LDV were for a long time were pretty much rip off Toyota Hiaces. You could literally swap the emblem and grill and you could hardly tell the difference? Great Wall utes were pretty much a gay looking Mitsubishi Triton....exact same Triton motor and gearbox but Chinesified. Aussies would just replace everything with Mitsubishi parts as they were all interchangeable..... Then all of a sudden when China started to peak with industry and production and globalise it's own brands, that's when nearly all the Chinese manufacturers took a drastic side step from "mimicking" Western brands and going fully Chinese designed and styled? FOTON however (I think because of their North American partnerships and influences) have decided to maintain a more western (Japanese) styling to try maintain good sales in western markets (well that's what I believe?)
      In Australia we have have the Isuzu D-max and the resemblance I think looks more like the Dmax than Hilux?
      I have friends that bought a FOTON and i went with them when they picked it up. It appeared to be built pretty solid from appearances? The things I noted were old school simplicity and not overly tech filled like I was expecting from a Chinese vehicle?
      Solid wheels that had decent styling and for a standard wheel (I have worked at a custom wheel fabrication and restoration - I note these things) and it had a good track square track width and rubber filled the guards 👍
      Every single other Chinese thing around had skinny cheese cutter wheels with tyres inches inside the arches. Basically useless meaning you were up for a set of wheels straight away as soon as you buy them?
      I told my friends that I was a still a bit dubious, but the price point couldn't beat it in comparison to even some of the poverty pack Japanese models especially considering the price of upgrading wheels and tyres on those as well?
      I'm a Mazda rotary enthusiast so you can take my autistic monologue with a grain of salt.
      I'm glad they went Cummins instead of Cat at the very least 👌 keeping this close to the heart makes for no conflicts of interest and less swearing during development (in my opinion).
      We all know they didn't really want to go with cat 😆

    • @jameshatton4211
      @jameshatton4211 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Ignore my rambling rubbish. I'm autistic AF. Please forgive me

  • @zackwildinc
    @zackwildinc หลายเดือนก่อน +81

    sadly, tim hortons wanted cheaper beans and switched suppliers. if you want tim hortons coffee, sneak on over to mcdonalds. they are using tim hortons original supplier.

    • @jamescario2292
      @jamescario2292 26 วันที่ผ่านมา +9

      Source? Cause if I tell people I read it under a TH-cam comment, I’ll get laughed at

    • @jossa942
      @jossa942 23 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Lol😂

    • @jossa942
      @jossa942 23 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@jamescario2292im going down this rabbit hole

    • @Spaltyslife
      @Spaltyslife 20 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Tell people anyways😂😂😂​@@jamescario2292

    • @greengoat5654
      @greengoat5654 19 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Common american W

  • @user-kg4eb7nl5b
    @user-kg4eb7nl5b หลายเดือนก่อน +117

    what does a Chinese Caterpillar factory make ? ..... Silk ?

    • @Sjanzo
      @Sjanzo หลายเดือนก่อน +13

      Cat builds most of their excavators in China

    • @jaydunbar7538
      @jaydunbar7538 หลายเดือนก่อน +37

      @@Sjanzoyou seem to have missed the entirety of the joke

    • @ineeddollars
      @ineeddollars หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@jaydunbar7538😂

    • @488ci
      @488ci หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      🤠 silk? Ha ha ha 🤠😆

    • @davidanalyst671
      @davidanalyst671 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      (sigh) Im not proud that I got the joke. Maybe I just watch too many documentaries.

  • @Benjamin-xv2hg
    @Benjamin-xv2hg หลายเดือนก่อน +11

    What they did with the wires you'll see on nicer residential construction. Makes it easier to troubleshoot things. Also, instead of a massive hole going through each wall they drill the appropriate size hole for each wire so it's much easier to fill afterwards.
    It's one of those things that it doesn't matter. You'll never see it, but for the people who build it, it matters and you notice.

  • @David-xl8zf
    @David-xl8zf หลายเดือนก่อน +8

    If you start looking up those companies in the brochure you´ll get surprised really quick. Bosch, Brose, Schaeffler, Mekra Lang, CITIC or KSM Castings, Valeo (who own FTE automotive) and the Foton base of Beijing Foton Daimler Automotive will make you stop wondering why every screw is marked. It not only looks like a Mercedes Sprinter, it is, just with a Cummins, Canadian seats and some sort of hybrid system judging by the VIE logo on there also developed somewhere else.

  • @brucegarrett7232
    @brucegarrett7232 หลายเดือนก่อน +26

    I lost it when you were talking about putting a duck back together! 😆😆😆😆😆😆

  • @keso_de_bola1750
    @keso_de_bola1750 29 วันที่ผ่านมา +5

    Chinese manufacturers use the Cummins ISF 2.8 and 3.8 in a LOOOOOTTT of vehicles.
    Passenger vans, Pick up trucks, 6 ton GVW light trucks, mini buses, etc. used by various brands like Foton, Forland, King Long, Asiastar, Shacman, DongFeng, Huaxin, JoyLong, Higer... To cut the long story short... Almost any Chinese manufacturer of said vehicles.
    They're usually offered alongside their indigenous Weichai, Yunnei, and Yuchai engine options.

    • @DEBOSSGARAGE
      @DEBOSSGARAGE  29 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Thanks for the info!

  • @kylebecker2232
    @kylebecker2232 29 วันที่ผ่านมา +6

    They gave you good information. Caterpillar does business through our Dealer network instead of direct B2B or B2C sales.
    Btw, Perkins is also a Caterpillar company. I dont know as much about their distribution program, but I'm glad to see that you got the resources you needed!

    • @selrahc2061
      @selrahc2061 24 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Generix bought the 454 tooling, and turned it into a single rpm generator which runs on propane. Since they are running single speed. They should look at patent lapses.

  • @scottsmith2869
    @scottsmith2869 25 วันที่ผ่านมา +12

    I truly love this concept! I have been an auto Nissan technician for over 33 years. I have been involved with the Nissan hybrid Altima and Pathfinder. They all used the same 4 cylinder or v6 coupled to a generator and battery pack. They weren’t ever efficient that I could see.
    But!!!!! Your concept of a small diesel coupled to a generator and battery pack with drive axle motor is a concept I thought of years ago.
    I’m in North West Arkansas and would be very interested in becoming an installer of the retrofit system at some point. I can’t wait to see how this all turns out! Great job taking this idea and working to make it happen.

  • @matt45540
    @matt45540 หลายเดือนก่อน +22

    Make the socks for Costco 😜 I say caterpillar boots are for people who sit in a cat all day

    • @theorenhobart
      @theorenhobart 16 วันที่ผ่านมา

      after 'cat' closed a profitable repair depot in London Ont. i refuse to support cat in any way

    • @wrecker1861
      @wrecker1861 2 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@theorenhobartnobody cares…

    • @738elijah
      @738elijah วันที่ผ่านมา

      Cat Boots are a subsidiary of wolverine, and only license the name from caterpillar. They are also terrible quality. Also just a really weird brand that leans into modern fashion shows really hard for some reason.

  • @jamesfinn4547
    @jamesfinn4547 26 วันที่ผ่านมา +4

    I buy the Cummins C8.3 from dongfeng cummins in china to replace the dead 8.3's in International trucks. There always great to deal with for engines and parts

  • @bartoszskowronski
    @bartoszskowronski หลายเดือนก่อน +7

    if you will have a problem with the emission check a additional propane injection into intake diesel engine. (if propane ends you still normally work on diesel only

    • @drcovell
      @drcovell 24 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Interesting idea!

  • @whiterosemotors9026
    @whiterosemotors9026 หลายเดือนก่อน +12

    This is an amazing project you all are working on. I'm very excited for you and would be interested in doing conversions.

  • @gdawlton
    @gdawlton หลายเดือนก่อน +67

    I'm torn; I personally want nothing to do with Chinese anything, however I'm thrilled that you guys made the trip to China and found examples of what they're doing as well as opportunity to source engines. Well done. There's so much more I could say but I'll leave it at congratulations on ya.

    • @lancewood1410
      @lancewood1410 หลายเดือนก่อน +25

      Nothing to do with Chinese anything? Try stop using your smartphone first :)

    • @atangapaul1141
      @atangapaul1141 หลายเดือนก่อน +18

      Typing from your Chinese made phone with boxers made in china 😂😂😂

    • @mrmotofy
      @mrmotofy หลายเดือนก่อน +12

      And stop driving your car cuz they ALL contain Chinese electronics

    • @diy1.0
      @diy1.0 29 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@lancewood1410 Now Apple and Samsung are no longer produced in China. The manufacturing that the Chinese are so proud of is just a cheap labor force for us Westerners.

    • @gdawlton
      @gdawlton 29 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

      I can't fault ya - it's an LG phone. Hope I didn't strike a nerve.

  • @rangeraficionado87
    @rangeraficionado87 หลายเดือนก่อน +21

    That Foton truck is nearly an exact copy of the 2019 Ford Ranger.

    • @quadruple_negative
      @quadruple_negative หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      When they were looking at the mini bus, the vans in the background looked an awful lot like a Toyota Hiace.

    • @LouisSubearth
      @LouisSubearth หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      ​@quadruple_negative That's the Foton View. From what I remember it's a copy of a licensed copy of a 200 series Hiace van. And they're too offered with the 2.8 liter Cummins as well.

    • @OOpSjm
      @OOpSjm หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      ​@@LouisSubearth Foton bought a bunch of Toyota IP many years ago.

    • @Harry_Gersack
      @Harry_Gersack หลายเดือนก่อน

      ​@@quadruple_negative Exactly what I said. The truck is a knock-off ford ranger, the big vans Mercedes Sprinter and the smaller ones Toyota Hiace.
      And we idiots even sell them parts for it..

    • @Harry_Gersack
      @Harry_Gersack หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      ​@@LouisSubearth That's exactly the problem. There are licensed copies, but the majority are stolen.
      Actually a smarter move than just stealing because with the licensed copy you get all the tooling and don't have to do the reverse engineering yourself

  • @drakeenglish1683
    @drakeenglish1683 29 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

    I work at a caterpillar distribution center, and they take security EXTREMELY seriously, so it doesn't surprise me that you got denied.

  • @Talisman-tb6vw
    @Talisman-tb6vw หลายเดือนก่อน +11

    I wanted to put the 2.8 in a Pontiac Solstice. I have the transmission adapter already to attach it to a GM automatic. While the Pontiac isn't a truck, a lot of what you're doing, I can borrow the engineering for my project. 😊

    • @liammaupin9492
      @liammaupin9492 หลายเดือนก่อน

      A diesel sports car that’s an interesting concept!

    • @Talisman-tb6vw
      @Talisman-tb6vw 29 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@liammaupin9492 , I already have a LS swapped Saturn Sky. I think the Solstice would be easier with the 2.8.

    • @RobJohn80
      @RobJohn80 27 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      ​@@Talisman-tb6vwI had a very early Mallet LS7 powered solstice, if you want a diesel powered sports car get a Mercedes r129 SL and drop an om606 engine in it. I have a 1999 SL500 with the om606 making 600hp 700tq at the wheels with a stock bottom end om606 and almost all the parts needed for the swap are oem Mercedes parts available at salvage yards. A built om606 with forged rods and pistons 900hp is easily possible.

  • @FORDLYFAOTEAROA
    @FORDLYFAOTEAROA หลายเดือนก่อน +8

    Those 14 seater vans would make great food or coffee carts too, having a power bank on board saves running a generator In certain applications I bet

  • @user-pn5ck3ni8i
    @user-pn5ck3ni8i หลายเดือนก่อน +8

    Thanks for the video, very interesting content. You’re very brave or very foolish to travel halfway around the world to make a cold call like that, you have my admiration.

  • @byzentyne7010
    @byzentyne7010 17 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    We got engine from cummins china for our generator set previously and man the engine blocks kept cracking after 100++ hrs , but their support was great. They change all the blocks with new n good ones

  • @RickRanger711
    @RickRanger711 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I've been watching this series for a bit now and don't understand half of it but i enjoy watching still. You're fun to watch, keep up the great work. I hope everything works out for y'all and goes a smooth as possible.

  • @bandittelevision
    @bandittelevision 22 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    I used to do drafting design for a generator company. You can buy any brand of engine within north america pretty easily. They will even send you the 3d cad files

  • @hamop3
    @hamop3 27 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Awesome Video, Rich, love to see the Cummins 2.8. I got the old Cummins 4bt with the 4500 in it, it is a 92 S-10 4x4, now on the brakes, slow but satisfying.

  • @RunV5
    @RunV5 หลายเดือนก่อน +308

    Its kinda hypocritical that the Chinese vehicles dont have to have EGR/DPF while we do when some of the most polluted areas are in china

    • @Dustinicus.
      @Dustinicus. หลายเดือนก่อน +75

      They don't have emission standards. Western countries do. And western governments agreed to it

    • @matt45540
      @matt45540 หลายเดือนก่อน +62

      How's it hypocritical, we voluntarily regulate ourselves because we're the best.

    • @malcolmyoung7866
      @malcolmyoung7866 หลายเดือนก่อน

      They are a quantum leap behind any western state when it comes to pollution and emissions controls. As well as many other aspects within their own society..

    • @Marklin15
      @Marklin15 หลายเดือนก่อน +22

      Domestic market Chinese trucks have emission gear now.

    • @Dustinicus.
      @Dustinicus. หลายเดือนก่อน +10

      @Marklin15 what about domestic market coal plants lol

  • @amikick
    @amikick 26 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

    You Should come to Pune India, you can get Engine at cheaper rates for Cummins or John Deere or Mahindra or JCB what ever you need

    • @remix-yy1hs
      @remix-yy1hs 24 วันที่ผ่านมา

      😂😂 nobody wanna or should ever go india 🤢🤢🤢🤮🤮

    • @user-ed7rz7nl5i
      @user-ed7rz7nl5i 2 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Just big mouth ! Talk ,talk ,talk !….

    • @shk4090
      @shk4090 วันที่ผ่านมา

      It is a big NO dealing with India. I was once introduced to an Indian's manufacturer by a mate in chennai. The negotiation went well in the pre purchase stage but the end product was a complete disaster. The boss literally said 'don't expect any sensible product with a peanut price'... wtf 😒

    • @Ian-tj9xx
      @Ian-tj9xx 8 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

      😅

  • @lpete2766
    @lpete2766 วันที่ผ่านมา

    I can't wait to watch this all come together . I am very excited about all of it .

  • @Axial_Andrew
    @Axial_Andrew หลายเดือนก่อน +14

    Lobster jerky doesn't sound terrible to me...🤠

    • @michaelcarpenter557
      @michaelcarpenter557 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      I had squid jerky.

    • @calholli
      @calholli หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      meat is meat

  • @justingeturgun
    @justingeturgun หลายเดือนก่อน +7

    I lived in China Shanghai exactly. I worked doing international buying and shipping. You went about this alll wrong. I can give you some tips.

    • @dilipanthonypinto1620
      @dilipanthonypinto1620 26 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Curious what exactly should they have done different…

  • @Camper-kw5yr
    @Camper-kw5yr หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    This is absolutely amazing to see. Thank you for all that you do.

  • @shawnhumphreys3504
    @shawnhumphreys3504 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Sooooo excited to see the prototypes finished! Still been attempting to source a truck for this build. Continuously looking

  • @holeshot1721
    @holeshot1721 2 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Wow this escalated quickly but dam way to go guys!!! Love the retrofit idea 💡 lets get it done!!

  • @deletedcheeto7979
    @deletedcheeto7979 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    I'm honestly quite surprised you guys had that much trouble getting in contact with a distributor for engines. I work for a company that builds generator sets and we never seem to have any issue getting from Kubota, John Deere and Perkins. And a few other brands but maybe it just depends on the space you're in.

  • @user-um2xi7ut5j
    @user-um2xi7ut5j 25 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    If you want to meet with a lot of manufacturers you need to go to Canton Fair which is the largest or was the largest industrial trade show in China.

  • @jamminwrenches860
    @jamminwrenches860 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

    How about a $20k unfinished interior for camper van conversion instead of a $30k passenger version. Fold out solar on the roof and unlimited fuel less adventures could be made.

  • @stevetrepanier4351
    @stevetrepanier4351 29 วันที่ผ่านมา +4

    The Canadians showing up to the Chinese TH wearing plaid themselves lol

  • @Guns_N_Gears
    @Guns_N_Gears หลายเดือนก่อน +7

    I can see customers of those vans buying stock in Dynomat.

  • @bigbird2100
    @bigbird2100 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Great video 👍 Look's like deboss could be come the Canadian main distributor of Foton trucks and Vans 😊😊😊

    • @LouisSubearth
      @LouisSubearth หลายเดือนก่อน

      Maybe they can help Foton score a factory to build them in Canada. 😊

  • @jesseseidel294
    @jesseseidel294 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    Good work gentleman!

  • @chevyvoltinfo2151
    @chevyvoltinfo2151 20 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    I bet when you get back to Canada and they watch this video they will kill the deal.

  • @jpeterd92
    @jpeterd92 24 วันที่ผ่านมา

    I work on the subway trains in Toronto, and we route our wires like that, we actually use oak as the material around the wires clamping it with a steel plate on the other side so even if the wood were to break and be knocked out of place the wires will still be contained.

  • @mcskifter
    @mcskifter หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Showing our sales guys clips from these. They constantly defend when I complain I can't get a quote for a product advertised on a website within a week.

  • @v12style67
    @v12style67 28 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Cummins 2.8 is in everything in South America too. Basic kit for medium duty a truck is Cummins engine with Eaton 6 speeds. The 2.8 engine with the final drives used here are not powerful enough, it is the “light” version of medium duty truck, soft and weak frame, rated for light loads of 2000kg at most
    The actual real work trucks use the 3.8 and can load up to 7000-7500kg safely maybe even more.
    what I dislike is the cable gear switching style these newer gearboxes use, a rigid tube is much better for driver feedback and it’s simpler too.
    getting back to Cummins on Chinese vehicles, they also are in most heavy duty machinery such as wheel loaders, excavators, motor graders, etc. the only Chinese things are the hoses, tires and frames. Only in very specific cases you see Chinese engines or hydraulics.

  • @markg9177
    @markg9177 22 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    the Foton wiring management looks like standard marine electrical management, keep the wires separate for heat and RF purposes.

  • @joshuahill6153
    @joshuahill6153 28 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Some chinese made buses for New Zealand use cummins USA engines instead of cummins china because of the engine specifications. Even though the plants are not too far from each other, it is very interesting. They are a lot more sturdier and more trustworthy in comparison to their asian counterparts.

  • @patrickd.7880
    @patrickd.7880 19 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Now I know why they shut the caterpillar plant down here in San Leandro CA. Made in China now. The price of their products didn't get cheaper but I bet the CEO make more money.

  • @endangeredmarmot4518
    @endangeredmarmot4518 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Great trip and looking forward to seeing the conversion work

  • @richard3141592638
    @richard3141592638 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Great travelogue Rich et al. Great to see the pickup at the end too

  • @wxbgt01
    @wxbgt01 24 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    I'm surprised they didn't send you to the Cat dealer in Shanghai, Li Shing Hong. They are the Mercedes dealer for Shanghai, too.

  • @ronaldwarren1267
    @ronaldwarren1267 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Like any country the quality gets better when you spend a bit more on whatever your buying they also make honda engines for honda (industrial engines)

  • @makapa2u
    @makapa2u 17 วันที่ผ่านมา

    NC Power Systems - all I do is Caterpillar truck engines and boats and Gensets and small OEM Ag equipment power plants C2.2 C3.3 C4.4 C6.6 C7- C9s
    Also C16- C18s up to C175 and C3608s

  • @mbazzy123
    @mbazzy123 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Nice video guys that was very interesting.

  • @WaylonWilliams-z3r
    @WaylonWilliams-z3r 19 นาทีที่ผ่านมา

    Since you were under the vehicle around the batteries, you should have brought out your EMF reader and see how off the charts it would be. What happened?

  • @Havok135
    @Havok135 13 วันที่ผ่านมา +8

    Yeah, it’s pretty weird to go to a factory, unannounced, wanting access without an appointment 😂. “Hey, we are content creators, give us access” ego is something else 😂

    • @jbwshox
      @jbwshox 5 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Exactly😂😂😂

    • @BMW_Mustang_Dodge
      @BMW_Mustang_Dodge 4 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Maybe we watched different videos, I didn't see them do that to anyone. I actually seen the complete opposite, they literally said they are putting their cameras away to not look like content creators. I'd say the method worked if the cummins rep came out to them, and is sending the info.

  • @jp2793
    @jp2793 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    have you looked into electric motors in the wheels? canoe has an electric platform using them. it might make front axel issue easier.

  • @billyhighfill
    @billyhighfill หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    This is awesome. I love what you’re doing!!!

  • @germanjesus
    @germanjesus หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Want a 2.8 Cummins ? Use a 2.8 Mercedes out of the jeep or sprinter.

  • @perrysebastian6928
    @perrysebastian6928 21 วันที่ผ่านมา

    These diesel to electric drive concepts are the cat's meow

  • @edisonchao1024
    @edisonchao1024 3 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    I feel you guys may want to check out BYD shark in Mexico😊

    • @remix-yy1hs
      @remix-yy1hs วันที่ผ่านมา

      That's would be dope 👌

  • @jbmorris2893
    @jbmorris2893 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    The R2.8 Cummins has a 2 years/2,600 hour warranty from date of delivery.

    • @fastinradfordable
      @fastinradfordable หลายเดือนก่อน

      That’s sad
      That’s only 90 days of driving.

    • @jbmorris2893
      @jbmorris2893 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@fastinradfordable if the engine is on all that time, yes just over 90.

    • @JD-yx7be
      @JD-yx7be หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      slightly longer than an incandescent light bulb lol

    • @bowenpollard1911
      @bowenpollard1911 20 วันที่ผ่านมา

      You could drive 8 and a half hours a day for almost a year, or if you are driving 24 hours a day, you would reach 108 days before warranty expiers. You would have to drive 28.88 hours a day for it to be 90days.​@fastinradfordable

  • @christophergerischer2867
    @christophergerischer2867 28 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Iam from germany.
    At 9:38 its true.
    The same for germany.
    They have not the mibdset like the chinies people and businesman.
    Nice to see that

  • @MiaM1ViiCE
    @MiaM1ViiCE หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    2.8 is reliable without an egr, egr cooler, scr, or dpf, so in reality you don’t know how reliable it will be in Canada/USA with their emissions requirements?

    • @bartoszskowronski
      @bartoszskowronski หลายเดือนก่อน

      in range extender EGR is useless because it will be 100% of the time fully closed.

  • @prototype3a
    @prototype3a หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    Lately, I'm interested in those light to medium duty cab over trucks. They just seem like a better investment than a pickup if you want them to do work and transport things.

  • @GIGABACHI
    @GIGABACHI หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    " Can We Buy Engines Directly From a Chinese Caterpillar Factory? "
    SURE YOU CAN ! For the right amount of capital. After all, we talking China here.
    But no one else needs to know that.
    Business 101.

  • @frank7911
    @frank7911 หลายเดือนก่อน

    just excellent content. walking up to factories and knocking the door? brilliant

  • @stevefortune4315
    @stevefortune4315 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    When i bought my 2014 Ram 2500 Diesel mega cab it was all marked up with marker on it as well. Came from mexico.

    • @2004jessiehs
      @2004jessiehs 28 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      Yea, when I was driving into monterrey about a year ago I saw a crap load of semi trucks loaded with white dodge 2500 driving towards the border

    • @stevefortune4315
      @stevefortune4315 28 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      I heard all the mega cab diesel come from mexico.

    • @mails5054
      @mails5054 25 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      @@stevefortune4315 so did my 2014 jeep wrangler, at least the body and frame. Welds 10 years later are rusty but look great, not complaining

  • @Typing.._
    @Typing.._ 24 วันที่ผ่านมา

    This is Legend, couldn’t find a number so I flew across the world to knock at their door 🤣 👌

  • @malcolmyoung7866
    @malcolmyoung7866 หลายเดือนก่อน +12

    They have the flags ready..
    Union Jack is upside down!!

    • @jameshatton4211
      @jameshatton4211 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Eyes of a hawk!

    • @theorenhobart
      @theorenhobart 16 วันที่ผ่านมา

      easier to do than Canadian flag upside down...which has been done in US lol

  • @shanewright6958
    @shanewright6958 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Great video guys 👍👍

  • @troyadams1076
    @troyadams1076 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Looking very interesting

  • @billyporter2195
    @billyporter2195 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Thank you for interesting and unbiased appraisal of Chinese manufacturing 👍

  • @terencequick1
    @terencequick1 วันที่ผ่านมา

    another good video

  • @muradk83ify
    @muradk83ify 26 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    In old days chinese used to come to see technology and back engineer it, today it otherway around.😂

  • @Halifaxbomber2
    @Halifaxbomber2 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    Can't wait for the kits!

  • @Madddog87
    @Madddog87 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Deboss contact the Perkins, Caterpillar engine facility in Griffin Ga. Buy from the North American market. They build the 2.2L diesel engine wich is emissions complaint.

    • @DEBOSSGARAGE
      @DEBOSSGARAGE  หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      The 2.2 won't be big enough, but we will reach out to them

    • @Madddog87
      @Madddog87 28 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

      ⁠@@DEBOSSGARAGE I can help you out if you would like to speak to the operations, as I work at the facility.

  • @TheWilber09
    @TheWilber09 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Locomotives route the traction motor cables the same way in the same style mount.

  • @landontesar3070
    @landontesar3070 27 วันที่ผ่านมา

    wonderful initiative and best of luck to you guys

  • @mhiebendaal3836
    @mhiebendaal3836 25 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Great perspective👍. Excellent Video, or episode.

  • @Tmlong333
    @Tmlong333 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Ha! Where I worked most recently, they warned us about Chinese guys trying to get chummy at the gate.

  • @rangerismine
    @rangerismine 24 วันที่ผ่านมา

    The super duty definitely is the biggest opportunity for diesel electric hybrids. Everything is built well except for the motor 😂. If you can find a company that can build an electric motor that bolts into the front and rear axle housing, you would be golden!

  • @canuckchris5733
    @canuckchris5733 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    You boys are now Canadian ambassador’s for Canada. “Take off eh “

    • @theorenhobart
      @theorenhobart 16 วันที่ผ่านมา

      ..or "Tim off, eh"

  • @embededfabrication4482
    @embededfabrication4482 21 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Can you remove the oil pump on a perkins 4.236 without removing timing cover?

  • @91rss
    @91rss หลายเดือนก่อน

    heard Cat have a section at bearing makers where they alter bearings to only fit their stuff.. Toyota used to make bearings slightly off so you cant get off the shelf stuff

  • @hedtkesautodetailing6706
    @hedtkesautodetailing6706 28 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    So what they didn't state at ANY point in the video is the % of tax you pay on a Chinese Vehicle. It may be $40k on the lot, but youre gonna have at least $40k in taxes too.

  • @GenX-jedi
    @GenX-jedi หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    the pICK-UP has some very similar panels and front end to the Toyota hilux revo THAT WAS SEEN IN EUROPE and that van is the older Sprinter 906/ NCV3, , if they are made as well. ??

  • @chrisman324
    @chrisman324 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    @19:39, I don't think there are enough holes in the frame rails.

  • @adriannicholson8819
    @adriannicholson8819 หลายเดือนก่อน +15

    in 2013 I got a new FOTON ute her in New Zealand and it spent more time in the shop being fixed then me driving it ended up losing money on it spent 39,000 from new with 7 km on the clock and only got 9,000 for it as a trade in 8 mouth later so I call them F#@kton F&%klands

    • @jamminwrenches860
      @jamminwrenches860 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      Typical for Chinese vehicles. It's almost like they use softer metals to save money.

    • @Harry_Gersack
      @Harry_Gersack หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      I'm not surprised to read this lol. I mean I'm sorry for you, but were you surprised it went like that?😂
      I mean at first glance you can already see that this thing is a (most likely unlicensed) copy of a Ford Ranger or Toyota Hilux.
      Difficult to say which one without seeing more of the chassis. But that's exactly how they roll. Either copy it directly without permission or make a licensed copy with one brand and then they have the tooling and knowledge to make 5 different unlicensed knock-offs of the thing they already copied.

  • @robertlemoine3500
    @robertlemoine3500 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Way to go guys , you make proud to be a Canadian . Thankyou 😊

  • @martyh9309
    @martyh9309 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    What? You missed the duck toungue snacks!!!!

  • @darrensydorko4976
    @darrensydorko4976 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    I’m curious are you guys also trying to make a deal with CAT/Perkins for the power plants? Or is it strictly going to be Cummins?

    • @DEBOSSGARAGE
      @DEBOSSGARAGE  หลายเดือนก่อน +10

      Cummins is cheaper, but not emission legal for 2000 and newer

    • @bartoszskowronski
      @bartoszskowronski หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      ​@@DEBOSSGARAGEemissions for range extenders will be easier to pass because you 100% of the time operating at peak efficiency of the engine. cleanest range of engine.
      additional to that addiction of gas (methane/ propane) improve emissions substantially.
      If you certify the engine anyway it's worth to test it. even if you don't need it now, but making the engine ready for future standards.
      modern road certified installation with install in Poland costs ~$1200, port injection for each cylinder egt/knock control. and if propane is cheaper than substantial money savings.
      you will burn ~6L of propane and ~5L of diesel, instead of 10L of diesel only.
      and you still can run on diesel only.

  • @RobJohn80
    @RobJohn80 28 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

    My father and uncle own an emissions testing lab in California and their lab is one of the labs that performs carb compliance testing, I have seen everything from 2 stroke lawn equipment to headers and cold air intakes being tested in the lab.
    The main focus with diesel emissions is reducing NOx production which is primarily two gases which are nitrogen dioxide and nitric oxide. The problem is that the fundamental design of a diesel engine creates the perfect conditions for NOx production which are pressure and heat and as temperatures and pressures rise so does NOx emissions. That is why EGR systems were introduced to diesel engines, the inert gas that is introduced to the combustion chamber lowers combustion chamber temperatures. Diesel engines produce greater NOx emissions when they operated at a higher load. When a diesel powered truck is cruising at highway speeds the engine is operating at a much lower load and producing less NOx. With the hybrid diesel electric truck the engine will always operate at the poing of peak efficancy which is somewhere around an 80% load it will be producing greater NOx the entire time it is running. When it comes to NOx emissions I believe the diesel electric hybrid will have higher average NOx levels compared to a regular pre 1999 diesel truck and when compared to a truck equipped with scr after treatment system the levels will be multiple times higher overall.

    • @ryanehlis426
      @ryanehlis426 25 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@RobJohn80 EGR is very bad for the Diesel engine, it requires more frequent oil change as the engine runs dirty pumping exhaust back into the engine, also the engine will not last as long before needing to rebuilt or replaced, hoe does that help the environment?? I was an owner operator for 12 years and had the emissions junk removed from my semi truck, it ran better, got significantly better mileage and made more power. Lots of owner operators and smaller companies delete/remove emissions from semi trucks.

    • @RobJohn80
      @RobJohn80 18 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@ryanehlis426Egr systems reduce combustion chamber temperatures which reduces NOx production. NOx gases are the visible part of smog and what causes acid rain and the fact is they need to be reduced as much as possible using any technology that works. The fundamental design of diesel engines is what causes NOx production so it's time to get rid of diesel engines all together. Gasoline engines with a simple catalytic converter produce very little NOx emissions

    • @ryanehlis426
      @ryanehlis426 17 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@RobJohn80 diesels make way more Torque for heavy loads, Diesel engines are the go to for heavy trucks and trains and farm tractors and earth moving equipment.

  • @robdagr8te
    @robdagr8te 28 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    I hope you guys were able to compensate that sales lady at the dealership. I’m way more inclined to buy Chinese now.

  • @cdoublejj
    @cdoublejj 29 วันที่ผ่านมา

    hell yeah! first the boor video and then this!

  • @rich1807
    @rich1807 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Smaller diesel engines but Hatz makes some great diesel engines for generators that pass and actually exceed us emissions. Depending on the kw you’re looking for out of the engine they could be another option.
    Btw what kind of kw are you looking for out the diesel engine to generate?

  • @spacebike420
    @spacebike420 28 วันที่ผ่านมา

    So after I swap the 2.8 into my 1 ton ram and go hybrid. Can I drop the 6.7 into a semi as my generator for that hybrid? The 6.7 still runs good