This is the reason the US travel advisory board recently raised its warning level against any unnecessary travels to China. (They don't want people to see the real China)
@@jmichael259European cars like the recent Mercedes ev that caught fire and destroyed 150 other cars with it in an underground parking garage in south Korea? You want the link? LOL!!
As an engineer, I visited China a few months ago to attend a convention and I was astounded. They are already ahead of us in many key technologies and the gap is widening very quickly. We Westerners need to get our act together RIGHT NOW, because the Chinese are not slowing down, in fact they are accelerating ahead. If this continues within 5 years China will be soo far ahead we will not be able to compete. After my trip, I finally realized why the media has to constantly lie to us about China. Because if they told us the truth, we'd see how much tax money our government and their corporate masters are wasting without any real benefits to the people. The Chinese government collects much less in tax revenue from their citizens and businesses, yet have to support a population of 1.4 Billion people, and is still able to provide at least 5x more benefits to their citizens than ours. I became REALLY angry at the government and it's lobbyists after I went to China, and that's when it clicked for me; THAT'S exactly why we are not allowed to be shown how well China is doing, it would foster way too much criticism and dislike for the ruling elites in the West. China's success is a major threat to our political establishment, and it doesn't matter what the Chinese do, their existence as a successful state will always be a threat our corrupt political systems.
You are very brave. Because all Western media are controlled by American NGOs. The US government is very politically hostile to Chinese socialism.BBC and CNN's reports on China are all negative.Western media always describe China as: "backward smoggy cities, where everyone still rides bicycles and wear grey old clothes because they are all poor and starving!The streets are full of police and soldiers, and people live in fear."Oh........All of my western friends who made visits to China came back with extremely high praises on China.All cities are modern.clean and very safety.There are no guns, drugs, homeless people, LGBT, delinquents, thieves, or violence in China. It is a very safe country.This the true.True you can not see it in Western media when they speak about china.
All privately owned Chinese automotive companies are still run by founders who are more focused on the long-term benefits of the business than their own short-term interests, as opposed to professional managers who run legacy brands.
Chinese government officials in charge of science and technology, industry, and supply chain are also science and engineering talents with industrial and academic backgrounds, while Americans are all law school graduates.😂
@@LumenCache its the whole quality of life and cost of living and personal freedom. you say freedom and china and americans think your crazy. yes they have freedom to live a great life.
you mean there are people that still dont understand that China and the Gulf states are now far far ahead of the West? they have futuristic cities. We have humans living in tents and taking shits on the streets.
The quality made in China is determined by price, and the highest quality products are often made in China. Of course, if you want to be cheap, you can only buy products of average quality
People associates Chinese products to junks and its hard to get them to pay up for a Chinese made product, so they always end up getting the cheap Chinese crap and they"ll say made in China is bad. So when someone makes fun of made in China next time, you know he's a cheap ass.
@@lemonles669I guess we just won't talk to talk about *Tesla panel gap and other quality and Design issues* - I mean there are thousands all you have to do is Google it SINCE DAY ONE, Tesla has been using Panasonic batteries, as a startup *Tesla has a ZERO battery technology* , in contrast Panasonic has been researching battery technology for 30 years, as it does with its production line with help of Toyota (still it's quality has nowhere near Toyota yet the panel Gaps are as big as somebody's thumb), Right now it tends to use Chinese battery maker also the largest in the world CATL. There are some models in China with batteries in China already has a range of exceeding 800 Mile, solid state and Ultra fast charging.
Just back from a trip to China since they’re giving everyone visa free entries, and I’m astonished! 60-70% of the cars are EV in cities with 20M+ people. A 100% cashless society with everything integrated with smartphones. Self driving buses, robots delivering goods and food to hotel rooms that are fully “smart”(voice controlled lighting, TV, AC and curtains). And boy did I mention cleanness! Sparkle clean streets and huge malls without any trash, no homeless everywhere. We felt safe even at midnight walking outside. And hospitality of the locals was just mind boggling.
Last week I went on vacation from China to Phuket, Thailand. Feeling the intense car exhaust pollution and noise in high traffic areas such as Patong Beach, I suddenly realized that I rarely feel this way anymore in my hometown, a city of 20 million people in China. The EVs do reduce environmental pollution.
CCP is one of the most polluted regimes in history what with rampant over production, over building, cheap products mass produced… nowhere to put all this junk…now what….people are jobless and penniless and banks scam left and right…the great leap backwards. Give me free Thailand any day.
Thailand is also rapidly adopting Chinese EVs, so hopefully a lot of the pollution will be reduced soon. The main problem is that most vehicle in Thailand are trucks, and there aren’t any ev trucks for sale here.
Thanks for showing the reality! 25 years in China and counting. Every time a friend or family member visits, dazzling occurs because western media keep distorting reality! Fact is I worked in import/export and over 20 years ago, designs and ideas were coming from the customers. Nowadays most of the ideas and designs are ALSO made in China. I now work in IT and on this field too the local services are just impressive and competitive compared to the west. It is not just about factories and pure production anymore.
Yes, like they say China has no innovation, but that's the time when the market is in the west and the companies in the west were close to the customers in the leading edge and whatever they improve would be the innovation, now the market is in China!
"socialism with Chinese characteristics" is superior to the fake dêmókrazy in the west and that's what they want to hide by the technique of bashing China...
Because people will start asking questions where did all those trillions of subsidies go if China has built that in 2 decades then why has legacy brands havent built better in decades with having 10 times more profits at least over the decades
@@albertcadgame8314 not really. we've shared lots with China and they've helped us too while we helped them and we're still doing that. only difference nowadays is that China is a danger for war rn as they don't disclose where captured footage of their surveillance goes through either. the US doesn't like that, but Chinese cars are still sold in The Netherlands where i live.
The comments.😂😂😂😂 I'm from Africa. If not for China, we won't have had access to so many technologies that we have today. Chinese affordable products made so many things that we previously above our finance that came from the West, suddenly available to acquire. Plus China inventing and manufacturing so many things, makes obtainable products more vast than what is in the West.
No, its just that this garbage is being exported to our countries, and its pretty much all junk. Good luck finding parts when China Collapses from its own hubris. Please, I dare you come to my country and drive a Great Wall SUV, or the latest Aisin. I guarantee you will find better quality elsewhere. I pray your new BYD does not torch your house or parking garage. Please come to my country and look at all the failed Chinese construction. Most of it was built with Chinese jail labor. its all falling apart. China has no real pride in anything it does.
JUST so refreshing to see a bunch of normal western guys having a good time in a modern futuristic clean safe city enjoying the technology without racial biased political overtones. so many westerners doing this now to share the truth thank you. Very enjoyable video. Mainstream media is disappointing and ridiculous.
I saw one of this video in China where there is flooding in a multi storey car park. A car parked at one of the lower level of the car park detected the rising water alert the owner on his phone who is on a higher level within the building. All the owner did was 'informed' the car to drive to a higher level. The car self-drive to a higher level, 'looked' for an empty parking lot, parked itself and updated the owner of its new location! All this is done without any human interference!!! Think that is a BYD car. China's technology is just crazy!
Recently, many people in the auto industry have slowly seen this trend in the development of the auto industry. These cars are not cheap products. Their design, configuration, quality and price have been tested by the global market. As a person who has been traveling between the East and the West for a long time, when I saw that most people in the comment area of this video have no understanding of China's development and have serious misconceptions, I just think they are pitiful. Your video may awaken some people to take the initiative to explore and enhance their cognition, but in fact, most people are used to enjoying the spotlight from all over the world as Americans, and do not want to really understand what is happening in the world. After reading a few anti-China media articles, they closed the webpage contentedly and held a negative attitude towards everything from China. This is really funny, but it doesn't matter. To be honest, many ways to make money and profits come from information gaps. Smart guys should have started to figure out how to use these information gaps to make money after watching this video, while idiots are still using ideology to paralyze themselves
@@chynavirusakawuflu9961 What you proclaim shows your ignorance and has no clue of history. Very typical of a Hillbilly mentality. Free this and free that, communist this and communist that. They went to war in Vietnam to free the Vietnamese from Communism is just one of the many stupidities of the US and Vietnam is not the only example. Half the world is looking at the US with disgust.
Why complain about affordable EVs? We all want good affordable products. Its good for the environment to drive EVs and use solar panels. Chinese subsidies is for all people. US subsidies are for the super wealthy and weapons manufacturers
The US uses the Tanya Harding strategy to compete with the Chinese. Instead of performing better, we chose to hobble the competition with threats, bans, tariffs, and sanctions.
Well, Most of the Chinese would like Trump to be the president, So that he can ban more Chinese companies and push more sanctions. It seems like bad for China but actually it's not. Here is the reason: 5 yrs ago: - Engineer: Hey! Why don't we use Chinese chips on our product? It is better! - Leader: If it goes wrong, who can handle it? You? Now: - Engineer: Hey! Why don't we use foreign chips on our product? It is better! - Leader: If it banned by the US, who can handle it? You? So，China has become the world's largest producer of semiconductor circuits in this insane 5 yrs. Its chip export value even exceeds that of electric vehicles.
One of the govt official US govt said the bans and sanctions were not to punish China but to protect the US but how does banning Huawei's cell phone protect the US? The US cell phone industry consists only of Motorola and they've been bought out. All cell phones now are produced overseas.
Nearly every thing the west accuse China of doing, they are doing. But those accusations have no evidence and whatever "evidence" there is, have been exposed as literally made up, or deliberately misrepresented. Forced labor is so absurd, when China is ramping up to be the most robotic and mechanizied manufacturing superpower. There is no way you can forced labor hundreds of millions of people to get this kind of efficiency in manufacturing. The only answer is China's manufacturing is that efficient, and their input that cheap because they have all the supply chains figured out. From ore to cars, everything can be made in China.
you know china is much more then just the cities and new companies tryna replace human labor right? outside the big cities people are still farming with animals and carriages and a lot of businesses still use fax machines with lots of paperwork, not to mention you can't do everything online on the government's site.
I'm an American who visited Shanghai/ Beijing for the first time in 2019. I couldn't believe my eyes. The robots, the contactless payment (credit cards were barely accepted), the restaurants, the HSR... there was even a horse stable on top of a 10 or 12 story mall in Shanghai. I tell everyone that China is the most technologically - advanced country that I've ever been to.
Many people also think that electric cars are just the difference between gasoline cars and electric cars, and do not realize that this is the beginning of an era of smart cars and the Internet of Everything.
China has established their dominance in EVs, they have entire supply chain inside China and if any country thinks they can manufacture EVs without using Chinese manufactured parts, and be competitive, they are absolutely wrong
But their is the only ones that Self combust!!!. If their EVs does that in the US market, it will be ORDERED for recall. Most likely the owners will skip the country!.....They cant fix bad battery chemistry and poor assemblng quality without doubling the investment!.
I'm in China now, and I agree 💯 with everything they said in this video!! As an American, I feel so ashamed of how behind we're. My $107k Ford F150 lightning is already falling apart, and I see $20k Chinese EV has much better design, materials, and performance!!
A chinese battery company wanted to open 3 plant in Michigan and employ americans. Everything was done then the local government said no because china is an enemy. While us companies invest in china daily.
No, I think it will actually revive the US car industry through fair competition. Sadly this is not going to happen because of "national security concerns."
Mostlikly will never happen our infrastructure definitely not possible to establish such convenient battey exchange stations. if so fortunately able to set up will be Smash-and-grab soon as set up before running.
I've been in China for close to a decade now. The country has made tremendous improvement in its air quality but it still has some way to go especially with interior cities. With all that said I love it here over Canada.
Thats true. The thing about China is, you can find both end of the spectrum here. Its not entirely accurate to say that China is years ahead but its definitely not accurate the media had us believed.
30yrs continous supplies of cheap product to the west, in trade of its own environment and health. You westerners should show more respect while enjoying the economy it provides, and stop calling for wars and hatred.😢
@@doobtom271yeah, iff they make products then their pollution will go up too. They are conveniently scapegoating China as the worst polluter. Half truths... Tell one half of the story but not the other half. And also another half where China is actively and continuously becoming green
It was nice to see the truck battery swapping. No bullshit, no talking, no politics, just do the thing and see if it works out in the long run. And everyone is so open to new tech and good ideas (even if from their competitors;).
The Western companies have long appreciated the manufacturing prowess of China. Those outsourced factories have been able to produce goods at the lowest cost, thereby maximizing profits for the Western brands. This has started to shift as Chinese companies have begun to climb up the value chain. They are now competing in high-profit sectors like design, branding, sales, and distribution. When you visit China and find out the true cost of goods manufacturing in China and the significant markup they have been applying when selling the same products made in those Chinese factories.
Thats right. And the shittiest part is that all the ridiculous mark up that went to those western companies, are then counted towards trade deficits against China. As Chinese I am furious about how we are portraited in the west, its just unfair.
Like the message gun? It costs less than 20 bucks out of factory. When it is sold in NA, the first time i saw in bestbuy, it was 500 dollars. After these many years, it is still priced around 100. When people says junk chinese product, do you know how much you REALLY paid for the product. Chinese factories complains that Amercian are cheap, they only want to buy cheap products, so we can only make cheap ones. Good quality products, we sell in China because US distributor would never import them. Just think about how much premium they put on even cheap products. Of course good qaulity things will be too expensive.
@@Z_Y89 As China's manufacturing evolves, it's expected to see a shift towards higher-quality products. This will move low-end production to Southeast Asia, similar to Japan's transition from volume to value-based exports.
@@winsonip4447 my point is that people in NA paid way more much than they should for the same product or service, because the market is controlled by couple big guys, they have the pricing power. The society is lack of competition and dynamics.
I am glad you mentioned upfront the actual problem. The auto makers whine and cry because the management isn't making double-digit returns on their investment. They tout things like legacy pensions and rising health care costs as the main drivers of the price of their products. Meanwhile, the labor hasn't enjoyed the same wage increase for nearly 60 years. Something stinks everyone can smell it. Nothing is being done about it.
Usually, money goes to the top management, not even the shareholders. Workers are totally replaceable, they are not the company's assets, they are just costs.
As a Chinese, I assure you, while the Western media constantly seeks opportunities to smear China politically, fabricating Xinjiang concentration camps , Tibet issues, and creating chaos in Hong Kong, the Chinese government just quietly makes plans, improves plans, implements plans, gets feedback, revises plans, and continues to implement plans.All successes are not achieved overnight. They require a comprehensive plan, bold attempts, careful verification, and decades of consistent implementation. China's current success in the electric vehicle field comes from government planning in the 1990s. China has been devoted to research in this field for 30 years.
@@chynavirusakawuflu9961 Now, people from countries in the West can travel to any place in China, not just cities but small towns and villages. Visitors can see with their own eyes the truth about Tibet, Hong Kong, and Uighur, and they will know that the suppressions, as they say in Western media, do not exist.
Some of these comments are so ignorant and hateful. I for one love that the guys are going into this with an open mind and at least asking the questions like “why can’t we be this efficient”
I can answer that as an European, we don't want to work 6 days a week 10 hours for 2K a month. We want 8 weeks of paid vacation, that is why a VW ID.3 cost €18K in China and €35K in Europe. The factories in China and Europe are exact copies, nothing more or less "efficient" just cheap labour, especially the parts that come from the Uyghur slave camps.
@@buddy1155 Exactly and the same twit talking about ignorant and hateful comments don't have a damn clue why China can undercut everybody else in the Western World where we live free. ALTHOUGH that might be changing considering the number of times i get censored by the woke lefties on MSN not to mention the suspension i got on here. No answers why and then after roughly 2 years i was told i had been "suspended in error". Yeah right. Maybe these guys have forgot about the extended stay 2 Canadians spent under arrest on trumped up charges in China.
It's really simple, china is taking our jobs and are a communist dictatorship trying to take over the world. They own western governments and are close to succeeding. Working with china in any way is treason
Oh the irony of watching a video showing chinas domination on automotive technology while getting North American car commercials rammed in my face on TH-cam
inside china business is a great channel if you’re interested in that kind of thing. american business guy living in china does great analyses of tariffs and sanctions and chinese innovation etc.
4:09 wow... that hurts... felt really bad for American tax payers who are subsidizing the EV transition but ending up fatten up share holders/exacutives and also paying more for fat old gas guzzlers.
To think that incredible van is 70k and a Cybertruck is 100k and the door panels rip off if you slam em too hard, and there's just nothing inside. Absolute garbage in comparison.
You are just seeing the tide beginning to turn, a society that invested in science and engineering with the express goal of improving people’s lives. The west was happy to look the other way for years and enjoy a subsidized standard of living while people elsewhere in the world worked hard hours for crap pay and figured out how to mitigate the pollution of industry. The final nail in the coffin will be the reversing of the brain drain. True sustainable development is slow and takes time, a society based on gambling and a fundamentalist dogma of inherent superiority will have to sleep in the bed it made.
@@santostv. That is if the Chinese talent attracted to the US is not regarded as spies. It has even been touted that young Chinese coming to US should be studying Humanities.
@@ansa336 I was talking overall for example talent from India,europe,Latin American ect. In relation theres no doubt it about that some are spies but let's not pretend the USA doesnt have spies In China either, solution idk its not something I know enough but blocking relationships is worse especially when china/usa/european economies are still too intertwined
True words typed. As I read that I was afraid I was gonna hear a blame game of political parties and who is or was president. In america, we have gone off the deep end so far in the culture of "cool" and "being dumb is cool" that we can't turn back. Idolizing the negative aspects of certain types of people instead of cherry picking the positive aspects. For example, in America, we idolize a hillbilly bearded fool for his religious words of wisdom and superstition instead of observing and highlighting his brilliance at agriculture or outdoor survival. When observing this hillbilly, we could point out why the hillbilly is in the situation he is in (as far as negative stuff) and then point out how he has made the best of his situation and innovated with his limited resources and education. But no.....the hillbilly becomes some sort of celebrity and people want the same overalls, with rips in jt, the same beard, the accent and dental appearance as if it's a "style" and aspiration. I remember as a kid of the 1980s...movies like "revenge of the nerds" really made a smart kid feel inferior. In school, girls didn't like the smart kid. She liked the bully, the bad boy, or the football star. We have set up this idea that ignorance is something to be glamorized. Kardashians? Kid Rock? Honey BooBoo. Wrestling? Here is the thing...there are different types of people in society. Some people can watch a Superman movie and realize you can't jump off a building and fly in real life. But there are some who don't know the reality and will try it. It seems that nowadays we have a large percentage of people who can't distinguish betwee n reality and make believe. So we end up having to protect everyone. In China (I assume), they put a high effort in to making kids be smart. Now...I'm sure it can be a little abusive too. I have visions of parents scolding kids, scaring them in to making straight a's, making them work long hours in sweat shops. Or, slapping them with rulers in the wrist if they don't play violin perfectly. But nonetheless, what we are seeing in this video is a lot of engineering and math and science coming to fruition in a society of motivated workers. In the USA? It's hit and miss. Long hours by farmers, but the son is in the basement playing video games and not learning from that dad.
They are running circles around us when it comes to EV technology along with pricing. I’m tired of these North Americans prices on mediocre designs/rang vehicles.
We Africans love Chinese products. China is ahead in so many things and the west knows and doesn't want to talk about Chinese advancement. But I'm happy for the Chinese people. Their hard work and their government support has made them stand out. Amerika and her allies are thrilled
Just watching this video makes it seem like China today is what North America was in the 50's and 60's. Before a bunch of people in suits and a corporate office needed to justify their jobs sending occasional emails, holding meeting about topics they don't understand, and going on "work trips"
China will NEVER be like the west - China will never walk the path of hegemony or colonize another country ! That I am sure of becos that never happen in China history before.
The cameras on the driver wheel is to catch up if the driver's looking away or sleeping. It's not to send the image away for arrest, just to stop the car if that happen. A good safety measure for people inside and outside the car.
BYD Dynasty series are not the high-technology EV in China, they are more like entrey level EVs. Many Taxi companies purchased them. BYD has its luxury series Yangwang, it is targeting high-income groups. Besides, you should visit the new brands of China's EVs' dealership, like Nio、Xpeng、 Zeeker and HUAWEI's Harmoney EV Alliance. They are advance and innovational players in EVs market. I believe you will get more shock from them.
2000: schools and media all touted Canada should shift from manufacturing economy to service oriented economy. 2024: manufacturing is gone, Canada ended up with worsening service.
it's ignorant when you thought the cheapness comes from the forced labor, the core reason of their price becoz China has complete supply chain in EV industry, such as BYD, from tyres to battery, either they own a supplier or they are shareholders of the supply chain.
If subsidies benefit consumers, why not? Taxpayers are better off. Seeing China firsthand can be shocking contrary to the lies we hear. Thank you guys for sharing the truths.
I have lived in China for 17 years, I am originally from Germany, but also lived in the USA for 20 plus years. So I have a pretty broad spectrum of experience in the 3 major technological areas of the world. China has surpassed Europe and the USA in many technological aspects. It ranges from EV's, Infrastructure such as high speed trains and everyday electronics. I suspect the USA and Europe have lost the race a few years ago and the gap will increase. Every sanction on any technology will only spur china to accelerate faster by focusing on that technology.
I study engineering in the EU but I want to do 1 year exchange either in Germany, Asia (China/Japan), or North America (McGill or Berkeley). This video kinda made my decision, I am going to China to see what is going on there, I want to be an industrialist, not a finance quant like half of my classmates.
Come on, man, China welcomes hard work to get rich. In fact, the competition between China and the United States is a microcosm of the competition between engineers and unearned financial practitioners in the world.
Companies like NIO are making battery swapping EVs in addition to changing. How cool of an innovation is to make a car that swaps its battery in 3 minutes whilst the driver gets a coffee!🤯
I tell people that all of the time. Start traveling within your own country first and you’ll find out real quick where your assumptions or things you’ve seen, read or heard may not be all what you believe.
You can't compare Chinese prices with western prices, an VW ID.3 costs in China €18K and in Europe it is €35K, Building, logistics and sales are just a lot cheaper. As soon as you start shipping or building in a western country it becomes a lot more expensive.
@@justinlynch6691 Costs are still more expensive in the west, just think about the ground prices for the factory, or all the materials to build the factory but even electricity. You can replace "cheap" labour with automation but you have to hire more expensive engineers to maintain the robotics in the factory. Automation will help a bit but will not make the price difference go away.
@@buddy1155 I think that's a lot of speculation. Good automation doesn't need engineers to run it, just design it. It needs calibration, but those are tech jobs, and honestly the UAW wages would rival even some engineers salaries. There is no cheap labour in building cars. UAW has been milking us dry. I'd speculate they have blocked automation everywhere they've been able. I know businesses who maintain their own general contracting and building divisions even though that has nothing to do with their core business. The construction industry is so far out to lunch that it's more cost effective to do it that way. It was actually cheaper for them to buy a crane than rent. I agree, that industry needs a makeover as well. You may be right, but with the cost of labour I'm not so sure. I'd like to see the breakdown of factory overhead, electricity, labour, raw material, etc of the build cost
@@justinlynch6691 I don't disagree that automation is the way to go. Don't know about labour unions in the US but in Europe they are a very good thing.I never heard them fight against automation. The labour unions in Europe are fighting very hard to keep manufacturing for Europe in Europe. And that is the way it should be.
It is just absurd to think the the west would ever compete with China. They produce more engineers. They have a very integrated factory-production system. The gap will only wilden in term of innovation and technology. China has invested heavily in its youth education system. They have more competent politicians. They manage 3 time the west population in a more cohesive and progressive manners with less crime than the whole west. I graduated from an engineering university in the US and most of the students in my school were chinese or of chinese descent. The only thing the west have is the edge of what it had gained in the past but it will fade away really fast. I kind of enjoy western arrogance and sour attitude as it knows competition is futile and defeat is certain. It is just a matter of time.
In America we have been convinced to believe that government run projects always fail or are too expensive but here we see not only cheaper good quality products produced with some government direction and subsidies while on the other hand in North America our government cares more about shareholder profits than good affordable products for consumers.
it's plan, and competition. When our chinese government decided to introduce Tesla to our market to have more competition, and develop electricity supply chain in 2010, it's plan for next 20 years.
More than 70% buses were eletrical in Beijing since 20 years ago. From wire-charged to battery-powered, they've gone through a whole process of development in this industry for decades. It's not achieved all of a sudden
US and EU can not accept Chinese are smart in Manufacturing and Exports too. Global market needs china for sustainable development of countries, Not by providing IMF WB loans to countries.
As a regular visitor to China since 2008, I couldn't agree more with you guys. The change in air pollution is amazing, the solar-, wind energy-, and car development are mind-blowing. The West is so far behind that we are losing the race and stuck in our dinosaur thinking refusing any new development.
America has lost its way and it is all about profits anymore and how much they can squeeze out of us and all the money that we frivolously spend to all these corporations that never use it for the intended purposes is ridiculous.
our government and education system is infatuated with foolish social issues . our kids come out of school absolute idiots. getting anything done in Canada is nightmare, slow, and infuriating. we should be angry as a hornet at our governments
You haven't really experienced china until you bring your own bottle of whiskey to a spa and they all allow you to drink it there and even provides cups
And then refuse any tips as well. Although really the BYO (bring your own booze) and no tipping is not just common in China, but in many western nations as well. Just not in the good ol USA.
@@seanlee3863 BYO is literally part of the signage at most Australian restaurants when I lived there 20 years ago. I believe some countries in Europe also do the same.
Poor American "we are better attitude". Why not just admit that US cannot march-up to the Chnnese competition. If you don't want Chinese cars why you spending so much time in them. Your forcefully trying to look for faults but you cannot find any.
Love what your doing, keep it up, the r and potential for chinese companies in both automotive and ag have change in the last couple years with markets for there products appearing just across the boarder too, there products are getting really good
@@EdisonMotors that is the with capitalism, though on the other hand if you don't bend over or speak out as you are in a totalitarian regime you either end up pushed out a window, glowing in the dark or in a reeducation prison.
@@EdisonMotors I don’t think that you need justify yourselves to the folks who aren’t able to reason beyond China=Bad, but it could still be useful to have a video where you breakdown some level of what components will be sourced from where, tie in some clips from the SME* manufacturers you toured, and demonstrate that this is a Canadian designed and built vehicle that supports small business and sources some individual components that no SME currently offers. _edit_ *small to medium enterprise
Great to see you guys had so much fun going around looking at the EVs. I live in a place I don't need a car, but these EVs make me feel I should get one! :)
This technology is next level. If they release in western markets for that price all companies may shut their business . I wonder that’s the reason they increased car taxed from china
I use the services of China Telecom. My monthly phone bill is 199 RMB, and I enjoy unlimited 5G data and 1000Mbps optical fibre broadband service. 199RMB is equivalent to approximately 28 US dollars when converted? I guess
Science and Civilisation in China (1954-present) is an ongoing series of books about the history of science and technology in China published by Cambridge University Press. It was initiated and edited by British historian Joseph Needham (1900-1995). China has several thousand years of tech experience while the West only has several hundred years since the Dark Age. The side effect is that many Chinese become naturally technical.
One of the countries whose government is consistently striving to impove the life of its people , actively pushing for a better tomorrow for them not by promising but just doing
China has gotten a bad rap in the past for pollution and labor laws,Don't believe the lies of the Western media. China is the best in the world in terms of environmental protection. If you search for videos related to desert management in China, you will be shocked! In addition, China is promoting EV vehicles across the country to protect the environment. This cannot happen in the United States because the United States wants to protect oil companies.
And I think it was fair to criticize them for it, but they've clearly taken strides to move forward and improve things. However, bcos things improve at such a slow rate in Western countries, they impose that standard into their belief about China's rate of improvement.
This is the same problem across almost every industry in usa. It's all about money, Blackrock and companies alike, own the usa and lobby for laws in their favor.
China is promoting EV cars across the country to protect the environment. This cannot happen in the United States because the United States wants to protect oil companies.
China is Dominating Innovation, Not Just EVs , my brother just came back and said all the same as you guys have communicated. amazing.
China is developing so fast that within a year, buildings, roads, technology, food will change a lot.
This is the reason the US travel advisory board recently raised its warning level against any unnecessary travels to China.
(They don't want people to see the real China)
Sure better n cheaper 😮 But not Safest to drive 😅😅😅 European American car's over Chinese car's anyday😅😅😅
@@jmichael259 outdated thinking.
@@jmichael259European cars like the recent Mercedes ev that caught fire and destroyed 150 other cars with it in an underground parking garage in south Korea? You want the link? LOL!!
China's subsidy ends up with cheaper and better cars for consumers, America's subsidy ends up in bigger perks for CEO and top management.
+1
US is one of the most corrupt countries on this planet!Their corrupt political system ruins everything!
Simply look at Intel after receiving government $ they will layoff 15% of its staff and lost billions in a quarter😵💫
THAT WE CALL DEMOCRATIE .YOU WORK TO MAKE POLITICIANS AND THE RICH MORE RICHER .😂😂😂😂
China uses its trade surplus, USA borrows...
As an engineer, I visited China a few months ago to attend a convention and I was astounded. They are already ahead of us in many key technologies and the gap is widening very quickly. We Westerners need to get our act together RIGHT NOW, because the Chinese are not slowing down, in fact they are accelerating ahead. If this continues within 5 years China will be soo far ahead we will not be able to compete.
After my trip, I finally realized why the media has to constantly lie to us about China. Because if they told us the truth, we'd see how much tax money our government and their corporate masters are wasting without any real benefits to the people. The Chinese government collects much less in tax revenue from their citizens and businesses, yet have to support a population of 1.4 Billion people, and is still able to provide at least 5x more benefits to their citizens than ours. I became REALLY angry at the government and it's lobbyists after I went to China, and that's when it clicked for me; THAT'S exactly why we are not allowed to be shown how well China is doing, it would foster way too much criticism and dislike for the ruling elites in the West. China's success is a major threat to our political establishment, and it doesn't matter what the Chinese do, their existence as a successful state will always be a threat our corrupt political systems.
Thank you for sharing your personal experience! Cheers
You are very brave. Because all Western media are controlled by American NGOs. The US government is very politically hostile to Chinese socialism.BBC and CNN's reports on China are all negative.Western media always describe China as: "backward smoggy cities, where everyone still rides bicycles and wear grey old clothes because they are all poor and starving!The streets are full of police and soldiers, and people live in fear."Oh........All of my western friends who made visits to China came back with extremely high praises on China.All cities are modern.clean and very safety.There are no guns, drugs, homeless people, LGBT, delinquents, thieves, or violence in China. It is a very safe country.This the true.True you can not see it in Western media when they speak about china.
Your type of script will likely get banned in the Yahoo Comments section.
@@US_made_911_terror_and_Covid19 I rarely comment.
Leave China alone and keep Biden, sorry Harris in his position. Cause this is good for both countries.
You know what almost all the Chinese CEOs have an engineering background. All the U.S CEOs from finance. You know the differences.
Actually, not just the CEOs, local government officials and workers as well. Lots of them have engineering degrees
us ceos from sales. us politicians from legal. lethal combo 🤣😂😆
The difference is . . . the latter know how to count money?
All privately owned Chinese automotive companies are still run by founders who are more focused on the long-term benefits of the business than their own short-term interests, as opposed to professional managers who run legacy brands.
Chinese government officials in charge of science and technology, industry, and supply chain are also science and engineering talents with industrial and academic backgrounds, while Americans are all law school graduates.😂
Boy, this video hurt a lot of people. Reality is just not what the media tells you.
Reality is China wants you . China wants you to be their screwdriver.
Not even close. I've lived here for 8 years. It's more than just the cars.
@@LumenCache its the whole quality of life and cost of living and personal freedom. you say freedom and china and americans think your crazy. yes they have freedom to live a great life.
You have been brain washed
you mean there are people that still dont understand that China and the Gulf states are now far far ahead of the West? they have futuristic cities. We have humans living in tents and taking shits on the streets.
I guess people can’t really say made in China is junk any more? Or China is a copy cat? But how can they be a copy if they are a lot more advanced
The quality made in China is determined by price, and the highest quality products are often made in China. Of course, if you want to be cheap, you can only buy products of average quality
You get what you pay for. If you pay $1 you will only get $1 quality.
@@32yuban10 if it's made in China you got 3 dollar quality.
People associates Chinese products to junks and its hard to get them to pay up for a Chinese made product, so they always end up getting the cheap Chinese crap and they"ll say made in China is bad. So when someone makes fun of made in China next time, you know he's a cheap ass.
@@lemonles669I guess we just won't talk to talk about *Tesla panel gap and other quality and Design issues* - I mean there are thousands all you have to do is Google it
SINCE DAY ONE, Tesla has been using Panasonic batteries, as a startup *Tesla has a ZERO battery technology* , in contrast Panasonic has been researching battery technology for 30 years, as it does with its production line with help of Toyota (still it's quality has nowhere near Toyota yet the panel Gaps are as big as somebody's thumb), Right now it tends to use Chinese battery maker also the largest in the world CATL. There are some models in China with batteries in China already has a range of exceeding 800 Mile, solid state and Ultra fast charging.
Just back from a trip to China since they’re giving everyone visa free entries, and I’m astonished! 60-70% of the cars are EV in cities with 20M+ people. A 100% cashless society with everything integrated with smartphones. Self driving buses, robots delivering goods and food to hotel rooms that are fully “smart”(voice controlled lighting, TV, AC and curtains). And boy did I mention cleanness! Sparkle clean streets and huge malls without any trash, no homeless everywhere. We felt safe even at midnight walking outside. And hospitality of the locals was just mind boggling.
sorry.这有什么了不起嘛 这在我们看来是很平常的 只是普通生活的一部分
不要这样刻薄…peace
@@chynavirusakawuflu9961 lol you think that gonna hurt Chinese? Just to see how good life quality they have in Tibet
@@chynavirusakawuflu9961 funny, I just went to Lhasa, Nagqu and Urumqi. Everyone was free there and life was peaceful and prosperous.
@@chynavirusakawuflu9961 I WILL FREE YOUR MON.
Last week I went on vacation from China to Phuket, Thailand. Feeling the intense car exhaust pollution and noise in high traffic areas such as Patong Beach, I suddenly realized that I rarely feel this way anymore in my hometown, a city of 20 million people in China. The EVs do reduce environmental pollution.
CCP is one of the most polluted regimes in history what with rampant over production, over building, cheap products mass produced… nowhere to put all this junk…now what….people are jobless and penniless and banks scam left and right…the great leap backwards. Give me free Thailand any day.
Thailand is also rapidly adopting Chinese EVs, so hopefully a lot of the pollution will be reduced soon. The main problem is that most vehicle in Thailand are trucks, and there aren’t any ev trucks for sale here.
Nope….CCP pollution is everywhere…ask any shill.. th-cam.com/video/HRx6Q9f-2Is/w-d-xo.htmlfeature=shared
我的妈呀，你跟我简直一模一样，几乎一样的时间去普吉岛玩，真的感觉很吵，突然回想在国内的城市我通常不会感到噪音困扰，理解了为什么许多来中国的外国人会强调：中国街道很安静，确实是出去以后才会发现差距。。
大多数第三世界国家城市吵的想紫砂，只有那些穷的连车都没几辆的才
Thanks for showing the reality!
25 years in China and counting. Every time a friend or family member visits, dazzling occurs because western media keep distorting reality!
Fact is I worked in import/export and over 20 years ago, designs and ideas were coming from the customers. Nowadays most of the ideas and designs are ALSO made in China.
I now work in IT and on this field too the local services are just impressive and competitive compared to the west. It is not just about factories and pure production anymore.
Yes, like they say China has no innovation, but that's the time when the market is in the west and the companies in the west were close to the customers in the leading edge and whatever they improve would be the innovation, now the market is in China!
I never understood why there is so much China bashing in the West by the politicians and the media. Now I understand.
"socialism with Chinese characteristics" is superior to the fake dêmókrazy in the west and that's what they want to hide by the technique of bashing China...
Fear is the key word here - fear of losing the number 1 spot.
Fear of other countries are more advance !
Because people will start asking questions where did all those trillions of subsidies go if China has built that in 2 decades then why has legacy brands havent built better in decades with having 10 times more profits at least over the decades
Because in a democracy you need to blaming someone to frighten the voting sheep to fall in place.
@@albertcadgame8314 not really. we've shared lots with China and they've helped us too while we helped them and we're still doing that.
only difference nowadays is that China is a danger for war rn as they don't disclose where captured footage of their surveillance goes through either.
the US doesn't like that, but Chinese cars are still sold in The Netherlands where i live.
My wife lived in China for 4 years. They are definitely blowing past us in many ways. Thanks for the great video
Do not forget there are also a lot of unfortunate people in China that the CCP will use to accomplish what they do.
@@stevensims3342 delusional.
@@stevensims3342 有病得吃药
@@stevensims3342 Brainwashed
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On the subject of forced labor, I'm concerned that China is making their robots work 24/7. Robots Lives Matter.
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Yeah, China is world's biggest adopter of robots..blows the mind.
That makes a point. RLM, RLM, RLM
The comments.😂😂😂😂
I'm from Africa. If not for China, we won't have had access to so many technologies that we have today. Chinese affordable products made so many things that we previously above our finance that came from the West, suddenly available to acquire. Plus China inventing and manufacturing so many things, makes obtainable products more vast than what is in the West.
希望非洲能辉煌起来！来自中国的问候
That is the intention of China.They want everybody to be able to afford
you are right, China will make the world better, make people living better
Hahahaha who cares!
@@chynavirusakawuflu9961western bot
So many negative and hate comments. Must have eaten sour grapes. Jealousy turns in to hate.
It is the path to the dark side.
They are in denial stage.🤣
Yes. These kind of haters are usually from poor countries and poor minded people. I am sure.
No, its just that this garbage is being exported to our countries, and its pretty much all junk. Good luck finding parts when China Collapses from its own hubris. Please, I dare you come to my country and drive a Great Wall SUV, or the latest Aisin. I guarantee you will find better quality elsewhere. I pray your new BYD does not torch your house or parking garage. Please come to my country and look at all the failed Chinese construction. Most of it was built with Chinese jail labor. its all falling apart. China has no real pride in anything it does.
They're just conservatives in their perpetual denial stage lol
Glad to see this video telling the truth about China - it takes courage. Eye-opening. But many people can't face the truth.
JUST so refreshing to see a bunch of normal western guys having a good time in a modern futuristic clean safe city enjoying the technology without racial biased political overtones. so many westerners doing this now to share the truth thank you. Very enjoyable video. Mainstream media is disappointing and ridiculous.
I saw one of this video in China where there is flooding in a multi storey car park. A car parked at one of the lower level of the car park detected the rising water alert the owner on his phone who is on a higher level within the building. All the owner did was 'informed' the car to drive to a higher level. The car self-drive to a higher level, 'looked' for an empty parking lot, parked itself and updated the owner of its new location! All this is done without any human interference!!! Think that is a BYD car.
China's technology is just crazy!
It is a Huawei car called Wenjie M9. This car can already achieve full automatic driving from point A to end B.
AITO M9
that's Huawei M9.
Yeah, that's the car at 5:36 in the video。HUAWEI AITO M9
So you believe such BULLSHIT from China!. Yo, they are the BS king of the world yet they bs not well!.
Recently, many people in the auto industry have slowly seen this trend in the development of the auto industry. These cars are not cheap products. Their design, configuration, quality and price have been tested by the global market. As a person who has been traveling between the East and the West for a long time, when I saw that most people in the comment area of this video have no understanding of China's development and have serious misconceptions, I just think they are pitiful. Your video may awaken some people to take the initiative to explore and enhance their cognition, but in fact, most people are used to enjoying the spotlight from all over the world as Americans, and do not want to really understand what is happening in the world. After reading a few anti-China media articles, they closed the webpage contentedly and held a negative attitude towards everything from China. This is really funny, but it doesn't matter. To be honest, many ways to make money and profits come from information gaps. Smart guys should have started to figure out how to use these information gaps to make money after watching this video, while idiots are still using ideology to paralyze themselves
Ukkk@@santostv.
@@chynavirusakawuflu9961 What you proclaim shows your ignorance and has no clue of history. Very typical of a Hillbilly mentality. Free this and free that, communist this and communist that. They went to war in Vietnam to free the Vietnamese from Communism is just one of the many stupidities of the US and Vietnam is not the only example. Half the world is looking at the US with disgust.
@chynavirusakawuflu9961 This anti-china bit is working overtime 😂
@@MaverickThug ur chynese moma is working overtime to please me
@@MaverickThug ur chynese moma is working overtime to service me
Why complain about affordable EVs? We all want good affordable products. Its good for the environment to drive EVs and use solar panels.
Chinese subsidies is for all people. US subsidies are for the super wealthy and weapons manufacturers
The US uses the Tanya Harding strategy to compete with the Chinese. Instead of performing better, we chose to hobble the competition with threats, bans, tariffs, and sanctions.
Well, Most of the Chinese would like Trump to be the president, So that he can ban more Chinese companies and push more sanctions. It seems like bad for China but actually it's not. Here is the reason:
5 yrs ago:
- Engineer: Hey! Why don't we use Chinese chips on our product? It is better!
- Leader: If it goes wrong, who can handle it? You?
Now:
- Engineer: Hey! Why don't we use foreign chips on our product? It is better!
- Leader: If it banned by the US, who can handle it? You?
So，China has become the world's largest producer of semiconductor circuits in this insane 5 yrs. Its chip export value even exceeds that of electric vehicles.
One of the govt official US govt said the bans and sanctions were not to punish China but to protect the US but how does banning Huawei's cell phone protect the US? The US cell phone industry consists only of Motorola and they've been bought out. All cell phones now are produced overseas.
So you totally missed 4:05 the part where they explained what American subsidies go to. Stop licking those corporate boots.
Nearly every thing the west accuse China of doing, they are doing. But those accusations have no evidence and whatever "evidence" there is, have been exposed as literally made up, or deliberately misrepresented.
Forced labor is so absurd, when China is ramping up to be the most robotic and mechanizied manufacturing superpower. There is no way you can forced labor hundreds of millions of people to get this kind of efficiency in manufacturing. The only answer is China's manufacturing is that efficient, and their input that cheap because they have all the supply chains figured out. From ore to cars, everything can be made in China.
stop writing nonsense!
@@chynavirusakawuflu9961They're already free... from the west!
you know china is much more then just the cities and new companies tryna replace human labor right? outside the big cities people are still farming with animals and carriages and a lot of businesses still use fax machines with lots of paperwork, not to mention you can't do everything online on the government's site.
@@chynavirusakawuflu9961 Western media zombie. You have been infected.
TAIWAN IS A COUNTRY
I'm starting to appreciate China more and more. I almost feel ashamed for believing my own media. Are we the bad guys?
No. You are the super bad guys. Gaza
visit museum near you and museum in China to find out yourself.
You need to be confident! Remove the question mark and use affirmative sentences.🙄
@@rayhuang6155 It's a rhetorical question. The answer is obvious.
Always have been
I'm an American who visited Shanghai/ Beijing for the first time in 2019. I couldn't believe my eyes. The robots, the contactless payment (credit cards were barely accepted), the restaurants, the HSR... there was even a horse stable on top of a 10 or 12 story mall in Shanghai. I tell everyone that China is the most technologically - advanced country that I've ever been to.
No one will believe you and accuse you of being paid by the "CCP"
Many people also think that electric cars are just the difference between gasoline cars and electric cars, and do not realize that this is the beginning of an era of smart cars and the Internet of Everything.
not only a platform, but also a robot
China has established their dominance in EVs, they have entire supply chain inside China and if any country thinks they can manufacture EVs without using Chinese manufactured parts, and be competitive, they are absolutely wrong
But their is the only ones that Self combust!!!. If their EVs does that in the US market, it will be ORDERED for recall. Most likely the owners will skip the country!.....They cant fix bad battery chemistry and poor assemblng quality without doubling the investment!.
@@fteoOpty64 they have no interest in US market so i think you can relax
@@fteoOpty64 The ones that self combust are the Teslas.
@@fteoOpty64是不是每辆电动车都会自燃？！数据是多少？死了多少人？！
@@fteoOpty64 salty
I'm in China now, and I agree 💯 with everything they said in this video!! As an American, I feel so ashamed of how behind we're. My $107k Ford F150 lightning is already falling apart, and I see $20k Chinese EV has much better design, materials, and performance!!
Thanks for the real world account
If them Chinese cars get in the USA , it will wipe out the UAW union.
A chinese battery company wanted to open 3 plant in Michigan and employ americans. Everything was done then the local government said no because china is an enemy. While us companies invest in china daily.
No, I think it will actually revive the US car industry through fair competition. Sadly this is not going to happen because of "national security concerns."
Mostlikly will never happen
our infrastructure definitely not possible to establish such convenient battey exchange stations.
if so fortunately able to set up will be Smash-and-grab soon as set up
before running.
The only Chinese EV factory in the US (BYD in California) is fully unionized.
It'll empower the unions more.
In other countries innovation is only for concepts, but in china innovation for production, that's the difference
@@chynavirusakawuflu9961 you looks like a robot
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Fucking bot@@chynavirusakawuflu9961
that's true,we can improve idea to prototype product in a short time
I've been in China for close to a decade now. The country has made tremendous improvement in its air quality but it still has some way to go especially with interior cities. With all that said I love it here over Canada.
Thats true. The thing about China is, you can find both end of the spectrum here. Its not entirely accurate to say that China is years ahead but its definitely not accurate the media had us believed.
30yrs continous supplies of cheap product to the west, in trade of its own environment and health. You westerners should show more respect while enjoying the economy it provides, and stop calling for wars and hatred.😢
@@doobtom271yeah, iff they make products then their pollution will go up too. They are conveniently scapegoating China as the worst polluter. Half truths... Tell one half of the story but not the other half. And also another half where China is actively and continuously becoming green
@@doobtom271 ,· well said my man
@@doobtom271 Stop bullying your neighboring countries like phillipines, india, vietnam etc with land grab and it will be much better for you.
It was nice to see the truck battery swapping. No bullshit, no talking, no politics, just do the thing and see if it works out in the long run. And everyone is so open to new tech and good ideas (even if from their competitors;).
That's because they all have 1 owner in common. The chinese government.
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@@chynavirusakawuflu9961 hard working! You should get more pay
The Western companies have long appreciated the manufacturing prowess of China. Those outsourced factories have been able to produce goods at the lowest cost, thereby maximizing profits for the Western brands. This has started to shift as Chinese companies have begun to climb up the value chain. They are now competing in high-profit sectors like design, branding, sales, and distribution. When you visit China and find out the true cost of goods manufacturing in China and the significant markup they have been applying when selling the same products made in those Chinese factories.
Thats right. And the shittiest part is that all the ridiculous mark up that went to those western companies, are then counted towards trade deficits against China. As Chinese I am furious about how we are portraited in the west, its just unfair.
Like the message gun? It costs less than 20 bucks out of factory. When it is sold in NA, the first time i saw in bestbuy, it was 500 dollars. After these many years, it is still priced around 100. When people says junk chinese product, do you know how much you REALLY paid for the product. Chinese factories complains that Amercian are cheap, they only want to buy cheap products, so we can only make cheap ones. Good quality products, we sell in China because US distributor would never import them. Just think about how much premium they put on even cheap products. Of course good qaulity things will be too expensive.
@@Z_Y89 As China's manufacturing evolves, it's expected to see a shift towards higher-quality products. This will move low-end production to Southeast Asia, similar to Japan's transition from volume to value-based exports.
@@winsonip4447 my point is that people in NA paid way more much than they should for the same product or service, because the market is controlled by couple big guys, they have the pricing power. The society is lack of competition and dynamics.
I am glad you mentioned upfront the actual problem. The auto makers whine and cry because the management isn't making double-digit returns on their investment.
They tout things like legacy pensions and rising health care costs as the main drivers of the price of their products.
Meanwhile, the labor hasn't enjoyed the same wage increase for nearly 60 years.
Something stinks everyone can smell it. Nothing is being done about it.
Usually, money goes to the top management, not even the shareholders. Workers are totally replaceable, they are not the company's assets, they are just costs.
EV's everywhere, subway systems in every city, high speed rail to every city, that all happened in the last 10 years. Mind boggling.
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All those places except Taiwan are already free. Taiwan will be liberated soon
As a Chinese, I assure you, while the Western media constantly seeks opportunities to smear China politically, fabricating Xinjiang concentration camps , Tibet issues, and creating chaos in Hong Kong, the Chinese government just quietly makes plans, improves plans, implements plans, gets feedback, revises plans, and continues to implement plans.All successes are not achieved overnight. They require a comprehensive plan, bold attempts, careful verification, and decades of consistent implementation. China's current success in the electric vehicle field comes from government planning in the 1990s. China has been devoted to research in this field for 30 years.
@@chynavirusakawuflu9961 Now, people from countries in the West can travel to any place in China, not just cities but small towns and villages. Visitors can see with their own eyes the truth about Tibet, Hong Kong, and Uighur, and they will know that the suppressions, as they say in Western media, do not exist.
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You guys are super rare on the Internet who can say in a fair way what you have seen in China, not many people can do it, cheer.
Some of these comments are so ignorant and hateful. I for one love that the guys are going into this with an open mind and at least asking the questions like “why can’t we be this efficient”
Same here.
I can answer that as an European, we don't want to work 6 days a week 10 hours for 2K a month.
We want 8 weeks of paid vacation, that is why a VW ID.3 cost €18K in China and €35K in Europe.
The factories in China and Europe are exact copies, nothing more or less "efficient" just cheap labour, especially the parts that come from the Uyghur slave camps.
@@buddy1155 Exactly and the same twit talking about ignorant and hateful comments don't have a damn clue why China can undercut everybody else in the Western World where we live free. ALTHOUGH that might be changing considering the number of times i get censored by the woke lefties on MSN not to mention the suspension i got on here. No answers why and then after roughly 2 years i was told i had been "suspended in error". Yeah right. Maybe these guys have forgot about the extended stay 2 Canadians spent under arrest on trumped up charges in China.
hard times create strong men,
strong men create good times,
good times create weak men,
and weak men create hard times.
It's really simple, china is taking our jobs and are a communist dictatorship trying to take over the world.
They own western governments and are close to succeeding. Working with china in any way is treason
Oh the irony of watching a video showing chinas domination on automotive technology while getting North American car commercials rammed in my face on TH-cam
just install an Ad blocker
Im glad this video speaks about US bailouts and subsidies
inside china business is a great channel if you’re interested in that kind of thing. american business guy living in china does great analyses of tariffs and sanctions and chinese innovation etc.
Now China even dominates the Video game --- Black Myth Wukong.
4:09 wow... that hurts... felt really bad for American tax payers who are subsidizing the EV transition but ending up fatten up share holders/exacutives and also paying more for fat old gas guzzlers.
us tax monies for us politicians, mic, israel, ukraine, us ceos ... none for us citizens
You have democracy. @@user-vt5ln7qq4j
at leat we are not using russian gas....r...right? eh?
To think that incredible van is 70k and a Cybertruck is 100k and the door panels rip off if you slam em too hard, and there's just nothing inside. Absolute garbage in comparison.
You are just seeing the tide beginning to turn, a society that invested in science and engineering with the express goal of improving people’s lives. The west was happy to look the other way for years and enjoy a subsidized standard of living while people elsewhere in the world worked hard hours for crap pay and figured out how to mitigate the pollution of industry. The final nail in the coffin will be the reversing of the brain drain.
True sustainable development is slow and takes time, a society based on gambling and a fundamentalist dogma of inherent superiority will have to sleep in the bed it made.
Hear! Hear!
The Chinese youth is also suffering is not all roses
Also in that aspect the USA attract the best talent around the world
@@santostv. That is if the Chinese talent attracted to the US is not regarded as spies. It has even been touted that young Chinese coming to US should be studying Humanities.
@@ansa336 I was talking overall for example talent from India,europe,Latin American ect. In relation theres no doubt it about that some are spies but let's not pretend the USA doesnt have spies In China either, solution idk its not something I know enough but blocking relationships is worse especially when china/usa/european economies are still too intertwined
True words typed. As I read that I was afraid I was gonna hear a blame game of political parties and who is or was president. In america, we have gone off the deep end so far in the culture of "cool" and "being dumb is cool" that we can't turn back. Idolizing the negative aspects of certain types of people instead of cherry picking the positive aspects. For example, in America, we idolize a hillbilly bearded fool for his religious words of wisdom and superstition instead of observing and highlighting his brilliance at agriculture or outdoor survival. When observing this hillbilly, we could point out why the hillbilly is in the situation he is in (as far as negative stuff) and then point out how he has made the best of his situation and innovated with his limited resources and education. But no.....the hillbilly becomes some sort of celebrity and people want the same overalls, with rips in jt, the same beard, the accent and dental appearance as if it's a "style" and aspiration. I remember as a kid of the 1980s...movies like "revenge of the nerds" really made a smart kid feel inferior. In school, girls didn't like the smart kid. She liked the bully, the bad boy, or the football star. We have set up this idea that ignorance is something to be glamorized. Kardashians? Kid Rock? Honey BooBoo. Wrestling? Here is the thing...there are different types of people in society. Some people can watch a Superman movie and realize you can't jump off a building and fly in real life. But there are some who don't know the reality and will try it. It seems that nowadays we have a large percentage of people who can't distinguish betwee n reality and make believe. So we end up having to protect everyone. In China (I assume), they put a high effort in to making kids be smart. Now...I'm sure it can be a little abusive too. I have visions of parents scolding kids, scaring them in to making straight a's, making them work long hours in sweat shops. Or, slapping them with rulers in the wrist if they don't play violin perfectly. But nonetheless, what we are seeing in this video is a lot of engineering and math and science coming to fruition in a society of motivated workers. In the USA? It's hit and miss. Long hours by farmers, but the son is in the basement playing video games and not learning from that dad.
Liked this video because it shows the truth..and the truth hurts.
Toronto cant even build a subway. My cousin from the UK said we are behind at least 30 years
Most subway trains in China are driverless
California spent billions in the last 30 years to build high speed rail so far they have 3 miles built.
@@dragonflydreamer7658 With no tracks.
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Trust me UK is shittier, I’m here
Go China Amazing progress 🎉❤
So many negative and hate comments. Must have eaten s0ur grapes. Jealousy turns in to hate.
They are running circles around us when it comes to EV technology along with pricing. I’m tired of these North Americans prices on mediocre designs/rang vehicles.
China is running circles around us in all categories not just EV's. North America needs to wake up.
Hey guys , i saw this vedio in bilibili so i came here to say thx for you guys showing the real CHINA.
We Africans love Chinese products. China is ahead in so many things and the west knows and doesn't want to talk about Chinese advancement. But I'm happy for the Chinese people. Their hard work and their government support has made them stand out. Amerika and her allies are thrilled
Just watching this video makes it seem like China today is what North America was in the 50's and 60's. Before a bunch of people in suits and a corporate office needed to justify their jobs sending occasional emails, holding meeting about topics they don't understand, and going on "work trips"
Faraway golden age, missed it.
China will NEVER be like the west - China will never walk the path of hegemony or colonize another country !
That I am sure of becos that never happen in China history before.
yes there was a time when america was squeezing the juices out of the whole world after the second world war
The cameras on the driver wheel is to catch up if the driver's looking away or sleeping. It's not to send the image away for arrest, just to stop the car if that happen. A good safety measure for people inside and outside the car.
BYD Dynasty series are not the high-technology EV in China, they are more like entrey level EVs. Many Taxi companies purchased them. BYD has its luxury series Yangwang, it is targeting high-income groups. Besides, you should visit the new brands of China's EVs' dealership, like Nio、Xpeng、 Zeeker and HUAWEI's Harmoney EV Alliance. They are advance and innovational players in EVs market. I believe you will get more shock from them.
Chinese is way way ahead of Technology,
2000: schools and media all touted Canada should shift from manufacturing economy to service oriented economy.
2024: manufacturing is gone, Canada ended up with worsening service.
But didn’t Justin Trudeau say he’s going to make Canada to produce the most advanced EV?
it's ignorant when you thought the cheapness comes from the forced labor, the core reason of their price becoz China has complete supply chain in EV industry, such as BYD, from tyres to battery, either they own a supplier or they are shareholders of the supply chain.
现代汽车工业几乎脱离了劳动密集型产业，生产线上都是自动化的，工人已经变得很少了
No holds barred. Thanks for reporting what the mainstream media won’t.
If subsidies benefit consumers, why not? Taxpayers are better off.
Seeing China firsthand can be shocking contrary to the lies we hear. Thank you guys for sharing the truths.
As a Chinese, I would like to say that we have become accustomed to this way of life, and although China is still developing, it is moving forward.
China has dream over capacity.. amazing.. world will thank to China for all affordable technologies
I have lived in China for 17 years, I am originally from Germany, but also lived in the USA for 20 plus years. So I have a pretty broad spectrum of experience in the 3 major technological areas of the world. China has surpassed Europe and the USA in many technological aspects. It ranges from EV's, Infrastructure such as high speed trains and everyday electronics. I suspect the USA and Europe have lost the race a few years ago and the gap will increase. Every sanction on any technology will only spur china to accelerate faster by focusing on that technology.
100% correct, the race has already been lost.
I study engineering in the EU but I want to do 1 year exchange either in Germany, Asia (China/Japan), or North America (McGill or Berkeley).
This video kinda made my decision, I am going to China to see what is going on there, I want to be an industrialist, not a finance quant like half of my classmates.
Good luck to you buddy.
Come on, man, China welcomes hard work to get rich. In fact, the competition between China and the United States is a microcosm of the competition between engineers and unearned financial practitioners in the world.
Companies like NIO are making battery swapping EVs in addition to changing. How cool of an innovation is to make a car that swaps its battery in 3 minutes whilst the driver gets a coffee!🤯
It's good to see sane Americans
Where? We are from Canada
@@DEBOSSGARAGE sorry Canadians
It's all good. We the Chinese feel the same about y'all.
all westerners need to watch this so they can get mad at their government for lying to them!
Now the anti electric cars are working to find an excuse bc now China figured out about charging time on these trucks !
I think the important thing is to widen your perspectives, visit new places, new countries and cultures.
I tell people that all of the time. Start traveling within your own country first and you’ll find out real quick where your assumptions or things you’ve seen, read or heard may not be all what you believe.
Thank you gentlemen for your FAIR ANALISIS AND PERPECTIVES -INCLUDING FACTS ON SUBSIDIES.
*NIO battery swap is 3 minutes if you schedule/notify ahead on YOUR APP*
I've been really enjoying your insights and perspectives! I love the curiosity and willingness to learn.
Wish Chinese EVs were available here in North America!
We've got politicians pandering to unproductive domestic manufacturers who produce junk. There's a recipe for failure.
问你们的总统吧。我希望美国能买到它
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I saw a lot of BYD in mexico
@@LMCCasting he meant Canada usa
You can't compare Chinese prices with western prices, an VW ID.3 costs in China €18K and in Europe it is €35K, Building, logistics and sales are just a lot cheaper.
As soon as you start shipping or building in a western country it becomes a lot more expensive.
U could ship an id.3 from china to Europe for a F'n lot less than €17K, it's all tarrifs and politics
I think automation changes this. Then it just becomes cost of electricity and government grabbing their share
@@justinlynch6691 Costs are still more expensive in the west, just think about the ground prices for the factory, or all the materials to build the factory but even electricity. You can replace "cheap" labour with automation but you have to hire more expensive engineers to maintain the robotics in the factory.
Automation will help a bit but will not make the price difference go away.
@@buddy1155 I think that's a lot of speculation. Good automation doesn't need engineers to run it, just design it. It needs calibration, but those are tech jobs, and honestly the UAW wages would rival even some engineers salaries. There is no cheap labour in building cars. UAW has been milking us dry. I'd speculate they have blocked automation everywhere they've been able.
I know businesses who maintain their own general contracting and building divisions even though that has nothing to do with their core business. The construction industry is so far out to lunch that it's more cost effective to do it that way. It was actually cheaper for them to buy a crane than rent. I agree, that industry needs a makeover as well.
You may be right, but with the cost of labour I'm not so sure. I'd like to see the breakdown of factory overhead, electricity, labour, raw material, etc of the build cost
@@justinlynch6691 I don't disagree that automation is the way to go. Don't know about labour unions in the US but in Europe they are a very good thing.I never heard them fight against automation.
The labour unions in Europe are fighting very hard to keep manufacturing for Europe in Europe. And that is the way it should be.
It is just absurd to think the the west would ever compete with China.
They produce more engineers.
They have a very integrated factory-production system.
The gap will only wilden in term of innovation and technology.
China has invested heavily in its youth education system.
They have more competent politicians.
They manage 3 time the west population in a more cohesive and progressive manners with less crime than the whole west.
I graduated from an engineering university in the US and most of the students in my school were chinese or of chinese descent.
The only thing the west have is the edge of what it had gained in the past but it will fade away really fast.
I kind of enjoy western arrogance and sour attitude as it knows competition is futile and defeat is certain.
It is just a matter of time.
The same tribe that is destroying the west is ruling over your people. They will destroy you as well when it becomes convenient.
You can't innovate if you have no industry .
Thx for just facts and your opinions. Tired of the China bashing and lies.
In America we have been convinced to believe that government run projects always fail or are too expensive but here we see not only cheaper good quality products produced with some government direction and subsidies while on the other hand in North America our government cares more about shareholder profits than good affordable products for consumers.
it's plan, and competition. When our chinese government decided to introduce Tesla to our market to have more competition, and develop electricity supply chain in 2010, it's plan for next 20 years.
@@galahadray literally they release a 5 year plan and people act surprised
The interior design of that van is so luxurious!
More than 70% buses were eletrical in Beijing since 20 years ago. From wire-charged to battery-powered, they've gone through a whole process of development in this industry for decades. It's not achieved all of a sudden
US and EU can not accept Chinese are smart in Manufacturing and Exports too. Global market needs china for sustainable development of countries, Not by providing IMF WB loans to countries.
Most informative content on EVs from EV lovers. You guys are going hard on the deep dive!
keep up the good work
As a regular visitor to China since 2008, I couldn't agree more with you guys. The change in air pollution is amazing, the solar-, wind energy-, and car development are mind-blowing. The West is so far behind that we are losing the race and stuck in our dinosaur thinking refusing any new development.
The subsidies part was really eye opening!
The west always project their own short comings onto others
Western governments are ripping off the tax payer for the benefit of the rich which is normal unfortunately for the Western peon taxpayer.
15:29 I hate to say this because China does use a LOT of coal, but that’s a nuclear plant
21:00 😂 I was in tears. That was perfect!
"The nitty gritty dirty part of China." Walks into Aston Martin dealership.
America has lost its way and it is all about profits anymore and how much they can squeeze out of us and all the money that we frivolously spend to all these corporations that never use it for the intended purposes is ridiculous.
it not about profits. its about creating a system where they dont have to compete and stealing money for doing nothing. its so sad
our government and education system is infatuated with foolish social issues . our kids come out of school absolute idiots. getting anything done in Canada is nightmare, slow, and infuriating. we should be angry as a hornet at our governments
Can’t give video enough thumbs up 👍
You haven't really experienced china until you bring your own bottle of whiskey to a spa and they all allow you to drink it there and even provides cups
And then refuse any tips as well. Although really the BYO (bring your own booze) and no tipping is not just common in China, but in many western nations as well. Just not in the good ol USA.
I had my beer while enjoying the hot spring in Chongqin city 2019. Its really cool.
@@tren133 haven't been to any restaurants in the west that's BYOB.
@@seanlee3863 BYO is literally part of the signage at most Australian restaurants when I lived there 20 years ago. I believe some countries in Europe also do the same.
drinking in public area is allowed in China. not a problem at all.
Poor American "we are better attitude". Why not just admit that US cannot march-up to the Chnnese competition.
If you don't want Chinese cars why you spending so much time in them. Your forcefully trying to look for faults but you cannot find any.
Wow, what a treat n an eye opener! Thank you
Love what your doing, keep it up, the r and potential for chinese companies in both automotive and ag have change in the last couple years with markets for there products appearing just across the boarder too, there products are getting really good
We don’t want Chinese cars. We just want North American manufactures to stop forcing us to buy expensive junk.
@@EdisonMotors that is the with capitalism, though on the other hand if you don't bend over or speak out as you are in a totalitarian regime you either end up pushed out a window, glowing in the dark or in a reeducation prison.
@@EdisonMotors I don’t think that you need justify yourselves to the folks who aren’t able to reason beyond China=Bad, but it could still be useful to have a video where you breakdown some level of what components will be sourced from where, tie in some clips from the SME* manufacturers you toured, and demonstrate that this is a Canadian designed and built vehicle that supports small business and sources some individual components that no SME currently offers.
_edit_ *small to medium enterprise
I want both.
Everything comes from good Ol' China whether you like it or not.
Nobody is forcing you to do anything. Except being overly dramatic maybe...
Great to see you guys had so much fun going around looking at the EVs. I live in a place I don't need a car, but these EVs make me feel I should get one! :)
This technology is next level. If they release in western markets for that price all companies may shut their business . I wonder that’s the reason they increased car taxed from china
The new generation of Chinese people with wisdom and hard work amazes the world
Very true, look at the young athletes.
It's crazy to think those roads were filled with bicycles in the 80's through early 90's. At least that's what I saw in TV.
It's my understanding that a cell phone monthly charge with unlimited data 5g in China is less then 25 bucks in America it's a 100 bucks.
China had launching a 6G satellite into low earth orbit in 2024
最便宜的无线数据5G是1美元
Well... my monthly phone bill is 29 CNY, which is probably less than 5 USD? I get 150 GB of 5G data....
I use the services of China Telecom. My monthly phone bill is 199 RMB, and I enjoy unlimited 5G data and 1000Mbps optical fibre broadband service.
199RMB is equivalent to approximately 28 US dollars when converted? I guess
😂😂😂 man you guys are getting rail roaded…
Science and Civilisation in China (1954-present) is an ongoing series of books about the history of science and technology in China published by Cambridge University Press. It was initiated and edited by British historian Joseph Needham (1900-1995). China has several thousand years of tech experience while the West only has several hundred years since the Dark Age. The side effect is that many Chinese become naturally technical.
China has gotten a bad rap in the past for pollution and labor laws, but China is actually society forward.
Lol, naaaaw brah.
One of the countries whose government is consistently striving to impove the life of its people , actively pushing for a better tomorrow for them not by promising but just doing
China has gotten a bad rap in the past for pollution and labor laws,Don't believe the lies of the Western media. China is the best in the world in terms of environmental protection. If you search for videos related to desert management in China, you will be shocked! In addition, China is promoting EV vehicles across the country to protect the environment. This cannot happen in the United States because the United States wants to protect oil companies.
And I think it was fair to criticize them for it, but they've clearly taken strides to move forward and improve things. However, bcos things improve at such a slow rate in Western countries, they impose that standard into their belief about China's rate of improvement.
Thanks for a great video.Had no idea
This is the same problem across almost every industry in usa. It's all about money, Blackrock and companies alike, own the usa and lobby for laws in their favor.
China is promoting EV cars across the country to protect the environment. This cannot happen in the United States because the United States wants to protect oil companies.
Geez, no wonder there's stupid high tariffs: they'd kill Tesla.