Is 33 HP enough to fly the Affordaplane?
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 30 ก.ย. 2024
- This is the first attempt to fly the newly built Affordaplane documented in our 50-part series.
The complete series is located here: • Building the AffordaPlane
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I was on the edge of my seat watching for the wheels to leave the ground. Very exciting to watch. It looked like you had no problem controlling the A-Plane, but in future I would really like to see your impressions of how it handles. CONGRATULATIONS on a successful test!🛩
So cool to see something go from drawing board to flying. Kudos to you, sir. You are an inspiration to those of us still dreaming of doing this.
Congrats, Jon! Looks like plenty of power and you didn't even have to build it/paint it as ugly as possible so that it would be repelled by the earth and fly! LOL!
Haha!
Plane on making a video of it flying around ?
I didn't expect anything less than success. Congrats !
Chocks!!!!! Please use chocks when running the engine. Mow the grass or fit larger tyres . otherwise, well played!!
Good job Jon! It's exciting to see the plane fly, and it sure seems like you have plenty of power to slip the surly bonds. Keep on smiling!
That is great to see after all the hard work. Looks like plenty of power!
I have met Jon many times at the Zenith Aircraft Factory. Not only is he talented, he is a very friendly person to chat with!
Hi: This video never shows the plane getting out of ground effect. (For non-pilots reading this post, "ground effect" refers to the fact that a plane stays in the air much more easily when it's close to the ground.) It's been more than a year, and no videos showing the plane actually flying above ground effect. This will cause people to think the plane might be underpowered. Can you give us an update to clear this up? Thanks!!
Your build efforts & sharing focus have made this a million dollar plane...I bet many of us wish we could pay you back that much for rewarding us with your gifts! 💰
33hp and you should be able to fly a brick vertically. Anything over 17hp is just superfluous.
The designer of the Affordaplane gave me a copy of the plans for free simply because I was the only one defending him in an aviation forum. So lets see if my defense had merit. That forum later banned because they are a bunch of mis0gyn1st1d10ts. My thread on there is still the most popular thread like 5 years later haha.
Yes and glad to see you are still interested, thanks for the watch 🙂
So cool to finally see her flying! Job well done
Great!! It's been worth the wait. Have fun flying it, can't wait to hear how she handles.
I just climbed out of my Lazair after flying around an hour or so. It’s only got 19hp and does just fine lol
How about you give it full beans and get forward on the stick until the tail comes up. Once that happens neutralize the stick and let it accelerate until it comes off the ground. Once off the ground let it go a bit and gently let it go upward. So dumb preventing the airplane from going for a flight when everyone knows it wants to go flying. Oh yeah…get a helmet !
Lots of the old classics had less than 30hp. Glad you are enjoying a Lazair!
I grew up around Ultralights starting on 1980. I flew my Lazair 3hrs day before yesterday lol.
@@shannonwhitaker9630 that's wonderful!
Your left throttle arm looks uncomfortable extended out straight like that?
your explanation in your video clips has really made me cause you explain almost every single detail where by someone could exactly fill like is in the workshop together with you, working together with you, keep it up. congratulations once again
52 episodes and no video of it in flight?...LOL seriously?
This was so great! So "Awesome" to see it fly!! I loved the whole series and watched every week from Ep 1. Thank you Jon - I always wanted to build one of these and after this I'm at least buying the plans! CONGRATS🙂
I saw them once - 3-D printed wheel spacers for Azuaslite nylon wheels, that allow a bigger "Tundra Tire", but now I can't find it. Still looking. I'll let you know if I find it again.
Congratulations on a very successful first flight! Seems to fly great!
Your wife know you using her seat cushion?
Only if she watches the video. I put it back. Got something better now!
Exciting!! Very nice crow hops. Make no apologies for the ASI-I think it’s critical for maintaining safety margins, even in a Part 103 a/c. I fly my Legal Eagle around mountains so my altimeter is critical, too.
Congratulations Jon. It was great to see you flying at last. I know how you must have felt before the flight. I felt the same when I did my first powered flight in a 150 many years ago. Unfortuneatly I was not able to continue due to lack of funds.
I don't beleive in renting aircraft to go flying. It's a never ending money pit, which ends when your licence lapses.
Well Jon, very well done. I'm wanting to follow in your footsteps soon. But first I must acquire a house here in Bulgaria.
All the very best in the future. Enjoy your Aplane. You deserve it.
First time-- I knew when you made that last flight you were coming back with a smile. Luv it. Be safe
Beautiful rudder coordination!
What a dream hangar and grass strip you have too!
Your really living the good life, I'm jealous..
Great !!! Congratulations #!!! I weigh just under 200 lbs is that too much? Will you say your weight? Also the fuel weight. Anyone can answer.
Fantastic machine congrats on the madien flight. Looks like a space age futuristic
Blériot!
Pulled a spruce goose.
so what was the final weight
Really curious how it flys out of ground effect. I think many of us who were curious on that power plant were concerned it may not have enough power to fly out of ground effect
Me too .... I feel like any missing power would quickly show at that point. Im also wondering about the total weight of the craft.
Hey jon we need new videos of affordaplane flying
Look at you sporting that A-plane Grin! Congrats on the taxi tests. Nice landings... 😁
Congratulations: airborne test flight fantastic looking ultralight.
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THE ONLY PROBLEM WHAT I HAVE IS THE LANDING GEAR THAT PIPE ON THE GROUND NO GOOD BUNGEE SYSTEM WILL WORK BETTER TERRY WHEEL BROKE OF TWICE LANDING GEAR POOR IT CAN KILL YOU. BETTER TO DESIGN NEW LANDING GEAR. SO FAR IT IS A GREAT BUILD JON THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME. AND THE FUEL TANK CAN GO INTO THE WINGS THATS MY IDEA FROM A OTHER BUILDER I SAW.
Great job! Looks like fun. When is part 2 coming?
I have that same garden furniture pad in your seat outside. Lounge flying.
I have a Thor 202 on my paramotor trike, and I wondered several times if an engine like this could satisfactorily power an ultralight...thanks for empirically proving it!
Congratulations thank you for allowing us to share in your experience. We love you and please consider wearing a helmet. I'm not scared or heights or dieing, just living with brain damage.
It's inspiring for me! I'm gonna remove my fiat 126's 24hp engine out for obvious reasons. 😅
Very well done. But please use wheel chocks. An accidental full throttle start-up rarely ends well.
I hope to see more, as well as your thoughts on ground handling and flight characteristics.
That is so cool! I think I will be building one of these! Though up here in Canada you need at least a recreational pilots permit to fly anything, so I don't really need to worry about the weight as much. Great Job on the build! I'm so thankfull for your TH-cam channel!
18 Hp was enough to propel the Quicky Q1 over 115 MPH, with other performance a bit like a Cessna 152 (in the dog days of Summer).
The Original AF as a Legal Part 103 flew on a 26hp@6250rpm Rotax 277UL as did over 85% of the other Part 103's once made used the 26hp/28hp Rotax 277UL, so yeah it should Fly on 33hp which the Polni makes at 8500rpm! If you use the Simple 1Kw for 10kg Rule, its MTOW of 540 lbs = 244.9399 kg / 10 kg = 24.49399 Kw needed to Fly Well = 32.84698 hp! If you upgrade the Wing for an MTOW of 600 lbs needs 36hp, and for 650 lbs needs 40hp. That same Rotax 277UL with a Tuned Pipe can make 38hp@6500rpm. 268cc/7cc= 38.2hp. New Polini $4000+, a good used Rotax 277UL usually with a gear Drive $250 to $650, and can be rebuilt for less than $200.
Well, In the R/C world, you need 1 HP to fly 5 lbs... Once in the air, you can throttle back to 1/2--3/4 power....If you fall in that parameter, you should be OK....No speed demon, but, it gits the job done...😊😊
Go ahead, remove that tag on the cushion that says: " Do Not Remove Under Penalty Of Law". Yank it off there, we won't tell anyone. After all, you said build it light! 🤣
Congratulations !! I watched the build process and enjoyed the videos very much. Looking forward to more flying videos.
Well... Ihave also built some light planes and with small motorcycle engines(250cc) I could take off... Leaving the gearbox on was a good decision hahahah II had the clutch and gear lever on my right by my throttle to help with that... there sure is a sweet spot for speed/torque... Buuuut when flying up there, I'd set it up on high gear and get rhat throttle back... Soooo cheap on gass. For real. Am now working on a project with a V-twin 1200cc to fly my 2 seater
Kind of like the Wright brothers, maybe it’s best he didn’t takeoff. Lessons and bigger wheels.
Needs bigger wheels...2 or 3 times current diameter...8n case of a forced landing somewhere else.
I've been watching your meticulous build for so long now...to see that pretty baby go airborne, even for just a few seconds...it was pure magic!! Congratulations!!!
Man o Man, so I am watching a youtube called affordaplane flight hour 60, and he has the cam on the wing ained at the plane, and I am watching this rectangular aluminum that makes up the tail frame flexing like crazy every time he hits a little turbulence that causes the plane to drop a little, that has me very concerned from a stress "how much can it take" as well as a "metal fatigue" standpoint. It appears the tail is bending into a slight U shape as it drops then recovers, I am concerned about this. I was surprised to see rectangular aluminum used in place of ROUND. Being that it is placed FLAT instead of TALL, I think it is even WEAKER in this application when it comes to the bending
Total all in cost?
It seems this is the million dollar questions for anything named "Afforda-" 😅
This has been a FANTASTIC series! You've definitely delivered on your mission to motivate and inspire and lead by the hand to getting more people in the air. ❤
Nice one, however the wheels are way too small, I think twice the diameter of these would be good. Also a windscreen would be make for a comfortable flight.🏵
I had to stop and watch this. Great motivation! My fuselage will be done next week. Anyhow... Back to building!
Nice, very nice! Congrats on the flight!
Those are 33 italian HP, they are know to "overestimate" numbers
Good show, sir. I bet it felt great to get off the ground for the first time.
Bro we need part 2
Oh so motivating to get my hands on one!!!
When will your Affordaplane project take flight?
Get you the handle off of a hand held weed eater and use that for your control on the stick. Then you could use the trigger setup on that for your throttle. I think that you would like that better.
any flight video soon ?
Congrats!
I think it is nice performance of engine and airplane
Well, 33hp is enough to get into in ground effect, but, did it ever actually FLY ?
I flew one a couple of weeks ago. Didn't much care for it.
Pretty cool :) stay safe out there
👏👏👏👏 Fantastic! Amazing job. Congrats!
With those wheels, rteat proof of concept imho.
I want to see you go up in that 33 hp
If he takes his coat off he will be under gross.
Nice.
What's your elevation?
Congrats Jon! I really enjoyed your series of videos on the Affordaplane. Just wondering...have you ever weighed the wings? I'm thinking of using this type of wing on another part 103 project. Thanks again for making some great content.
Part 36 is all about weighing the parts along with the numbers. While watching the series - no skipping episodes! Thanks for your comments
Old school don't believe in helmets 🤣🤣🤣
it all about the prop and stall speed as for Hp needed
Saludos and Aplausos...😊😊😊👍👍👍👍!!!!
What engine and prop are you using please?
underpowered need bigger engine
Do you want me to come over and fly that for you ?
9hp enough proved cri cri
How does it climb ? can you get more than 400 fpm ? I could barely do that with 50 hp.
That was fun 🎉
Hi Jon,
Thank you very much for your extremely interesting vedio. I feel like I did the job and fly. I was krazy at the last movement the machine went air for a few feet. I yeld like a kid. This is my life long dream.
Congratulations from Sri Lanka. Thank you very much again. Wish you a long healthy life. ❤️❤️❤️🙏🙏🙏
This is fantastic.
I doubt that the Polini 202 can maintain a 250 lbs ultralight (plus pilot and fuel) in a confortable cruising flight at 60% of its power. Maybe it can fly at full power, but not for long.....
Sweet!
congrats
As I recall, the Wright brothers got airborne with eleven horsepower. Nice video, thank you.
Honestly, I am uncertain whether or not 30ish HP is sufficient to safely fly the aircraft, yet I'd bet it far exceeds the requirements to execute a hazardously tight haircut or close shave.
Thank you for making those amazing videos, you will be remembered and honored for several generations to come
I’ve been following from day one. Very nice plane. If you attached a blade along the axle you could trim the grass as you go.😂
很漂亮的小飞机！功率这么小都能飞！很漂亮！
People get it wrong when it come to horse power when it come to ultralight aircraft if you small horse power but the right pitch propeller it will fly look at all the ultralight aircraft built over the years some have engines with 22 hp engines they flew good and some with 13 hp engines look at the cri cri 2 11 hp engines fly very fast has the right prop for the job
I have been looking at building one of these but I was thinking removing the bend in the front upright and motor mounts and extending the top bar and mounting the engine like a Flightstar would save several pounds of frame and a lot of gussets and bolts, this also means the lg can be shortened to save some weight, extending the top bar to the tail (again like a Flightstar) and taking off the lower bar may save a foot of frame and gusset matl and raise the tailwheel to match the front lg. this would allow more engine weight that you would probably need to offset the cg changes. mostly it makea it a lot easier to mount floats as they don't need to raise the prop out of the water. hopefully I'll let you know how it works in about a year.
That seatbelt situation looks a little sketchy. Why did you choose tube ribs rather than foam? I’m thinking of starting my own build.
Cool! Now build a Legal Eagle XL!
Good idea... except: I would not want first time welders to build the fuselage...
@@HomebuiltHELP Many first time welders have successfully build tube frame aircraft. Just emphasize the need to have help from someone who has experience - local EAA chapter members, etc. Start with the tail feathers, other small parts first.
@@HomebuiltHELP so ... when you make the video, show/advise the viewer to tack the joints, then have a skilled welder finish.
The sensible beginners will follow your example.
This is the approach taken by all in EAA, from Bingelis to Poberezny.
@@HomebuiltHELP there is no question, the Legal Eagle is hands down the most practical, airworthy, crashworthy Part 103 design ever.
Boosting it with your formidable skills would be a great service to aviation.
I bought every video in your catalog a few years back during a fundraiser. You sent me a bonus DVD on glass panels.
After getting this thing off the ground and doing some taxi testing, what are your thought's so far. Putting one together myself and the only thing that worries me is how well the tail will tolerate side load ie, cross winds on the vertical stabilizer.