Thank you!! I picked up Persona 4 for the first time and decided to learn Narukami. Your guide and this character got me to really enjoy fighting games in general. So thank you. Btw. Would I be able request for a guide for Naoto and/or Elizabeth?
I’m so happy that I could help! And yeah, trying to finish off all Persona character guides by the end of the year before moving onto other games. Naoto and Elizabeth probably sometime in November
Hello, total fighting game noob here - why exactly is frame data so important? Even at 30 frames/second, 1 frame is so fast that your eye can't even catch it...
I do plan to make a video discussing this! But for a quick summary: Fighting games are 60 frames per second And you’re totally right, something like 10 frames is visibly imperceivable to the human eye BUT, they add up, so once you’re in the 20+ frame range. You have enough time to think and react, and the more knowledge you have, the quicker you can react correctly. So quick example. If a move is 25 frames form start, to hit, to recovery. And you know it’s minus 10 if you block it - That means that whenever you block that move you can be ready to punish it with any move that is less than 10 frames of startup while your opponent recovers. The frame perfect timing of when to press the button to fit within that window is something you naturally get a feel for as you play a specific game.
Glad to see new videos! You're adachi video really helped me pick him up and be halfway decent compared to before. Especially the tennis loop combo I didn't even know was a thing😅 keep up the great work!
Always block cross-ups the other way. So you’re essentially holding forward to block if that makes sense. Some fighting game characters abuse cross ups by making it look really ambiguous so you don’t know why way to block.
Not all moves are jump cancellable but for the ones that are like down+B you just hold jump while the move connects. Same with dashing. Also be mindful that some moves are jump/dasah cancellable on hit but may not be on block
popped in out of curiosity, even though i don't play narukami, this does give a lot of extra insight into fundamentals, so i'm walking away with at least something
You can record the opponent sweeping you with down + a + b and practice your timing that way Unless you’re asking how to record the opponent doing wake up DP to practice your safe jump. Which is a bit more complicated and idk if I can adequately explain 😅 But you essentially start the recording and mash DP as fast as you can. Then to practice, do the combo and as you’re jumping in on the waking opponent, use the button shortcut to activate their recording. I have mine set as L2
Are there some tips on pressing quarter-circle inputs like 236? I've played only MK and Smash before and it's kinda hard for me. And I'm using Dualshock
Hmm, best advice I'd say is use the D-Pad. Coming from MK, you need to speed up a little. MK is very lenient with their inputs and also let you press down then forward for their motions without the diagonal. Build a rhythm with a rubbing motion and the attack button. Just streak from the down direction to the forward direction and press the attack button as soon as the motion comes to a stop. Don't rush it either, find the slowest motion that allows you to get the command to work and keep practicing it from there. It'll come naturally eventually. Don't overthink it either
Great guide man, I have a question, I've seen in clips from previous version that 236 C/D can be hold for pressure, was this removed in this version or you gotta put an special input? thanks for the guide.
Not to my knowledge BUT, what you may have seen is that when Izanagi is already summoned from a previous move or even a previous Zio, C version will always fire from where Izanagi is and the D version will always have Izanagi teleport and then fire from where you’re currently positioned. You can try tossing a Zio D version on the ground then jump and do a C version while Izanagi is still out there and see if that’s what you might’ve been thinking of.
Great video, though I do have a question that would apply to every character. Is this a good way to get the double quarter circle inputs needed for moves like Ziodyne more consistently? I can do the moves that require only 1 circle input pretty well, but when it comes to ones that require 2, I tend to instead do the move that uses only 1 input, as if the first input I did was just movement and the second was the one used for the input. Is there a good way to pull it off more consistently or does it just take practice?
Pretty much just practice. If I had to guess, you might be rushing it a little and doing it *too* fast. You wanna make sure you get the attack input after the double quarter circle Try doing it very slowly, get the rhythm and then speed it up
bro all honestly this guide is amazing im getting back in to p4au since ps3 days and you first person actually explain safe jump really well to me shit i hope you be come huge content creator in FGC
@@JayPhoenix Bro I appreciate the quick reply. Definitely earned a sub. I'm pretty new to traditional 2d fighting games and love how easy to learn you made Adachi. Literally just started doing some of the basic tennis combos for the first time today so I'm grateful to hear you're gonna get a revamp of it. Best of luck mate.
@@JayPhoenix Haha that's great. Quick question though. Do you know exactly when I should be inputting 214214A after tennis when Izanagi is slamming them down? I can't seem to get the timing of that down consistently. Not sure if I'm inputting too late or early.
I was wondering if you return once P4A comes out and here we are. Glad to have you back with a sick guide on yu! Also it's amazing that new guides, apparently, will be more detailed and thorough. As a new player, you've got my appreciation! Keep going king!
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He's literally ky kiske with a persona
Yup, you’ll find pretty much every arcsys archetype/character from GG and Blaz or at least elements of them in the Persona Arena cast
I was a Ky kiske main so Im happy with that
Insane to see you back again, I was watching your yosuke guide last week to learn him and it really has held up well, thanks for the dope content!
You’re welcome! Updated yosuke coming soon as well 🤙🏾
When the world needed him most
He returns
😂😂
Glad you’re back you helped me learn Ken so I’m looking forward to learning Yu now. Can’t wait to get destroyed trying to use him 😂
Yeah those first 20 or so games are always ROUGH
But Yu is easy to get the hang of thankfully so the learning curve isn’t too hard
Holy shit you did come back! Letsssss gooooo! Hope you'll do an adachi video at some point
yup, Yosuke next then Adachi
I'm glad u came back after so long, I've been enjoying all of ur p4au guides very much especially the Adachi one
This is great stuff. Been looking to play this game with some of my buddies, and now I got a game plan when we meet up. Keep up the great work, man!
Glad I could help 🤙🏾
I appreciate you for giving practical and reasoning behind the combos most tutorials don’t do that
Yeah I think all that stuff is super important. Ain’t always about doing a million damage
Thank you!! I picked up Persona 4 for the first time and decided to learn Narukami. Your guide and this character got me to really enjoy fighting games in general. So thank you.
Btw. Would I be able request for a guide for Naoto and/or Elizabeth?
I’m so happy that I could help!
And yeah, trying to finish off all Persona character guides by the end of the year before moving onto other games.
Naoto and Elizabeth probably sometime in November
@@JayPhoenix Thank you so much! Can’t wait. :)
Hello, total fighting game noob here - why exactly is frame data so important? Even at 30 frames/second, 1 frame is so fast that your eye can't even catch it...
I do plan to make a video discussing this!
But for a quick summary:
Fighting games are 60 frames per second
And you’re totally right, something like 10 frames is visibly imperceivable to the human eye
BUT, they add up, so once you’re in the 20+ frame range. You have enough time to think and react, and the more knowledge you have, the quicker you can react correctly.
So quick example. If a move is 25 frames form start, to hit, to recovery. And you know it’s minus 10 if you block it -
That means that whenever you block that move you can be ready to punish it with any move that is less than 10 frames of startup while your opponent recovers.
The frame perfect timing of when to press the button to fit within that window is something you naturally get a feel for as you play a specific game.
Glad to see new videos! You're adachi video really helped me pick him up and be halfway decent compared to before. Especially the tennis loop combo I didn't even know was a thing😅 keep up the great work!
Ayeee, hopefully the new Adachi video can help you get even stronger 💪🏾
what is the right way to block a cross-up like 5:04 if im fighting against a Yu Narukami?
Always block cross-ups the other way. So you’re essentially holding forward to block if that makes sense. Some fighting game characters abuse cross ups by making it look really ambiguous so you don’t know why way to block.
how do i jump cancel and dash cancel on controllerrer
Not all moves are jump cancellable but for the ones that are like down+B you just hold jump while the move connects. Same with dashing. Also be mindful that some moves are jump/dasah cancellable on hit but may not be on block
Yo bro would love some yosuke combo guide
Literally coming as soon as I get some time to finish the video haha
Hopefully in a day or two
could you do a Labrys guide please!
Hopefully within the next two months!
popped in out of curiosity, even though i don't play narukami, this does give a lot of extra insight into fundamentals, so i'm walking away with at least something
Ｐｒⓞм𝕠𝕤𝐌 🌷
Need a sho guide next !! But great work much appreciated
How do you practice wake up dp in training mode?
You can record the opponent sweeping you with down + a + b and practice your timing that way
Unless you’re asking how to record the opponent doing wake up DP to practice your safe jump. Which is a bit more complicated and idk if I can adequately explain 😅
But you essentially start the recording and mash DP as fast as you can. Then to practice, do the combo and as you’re jumping in on the waking opponent, use the button shortcut to activate their recording. I have mine set as L2
@@JayPhoenix Thanks a lot! my question was related to your second answer 😅
Are there some tips on pressing quarter-circle inputs like 236? I've played only MK and Smash before and it's kinda hard for me. And I'm using Dualshock
Hmm, best advice I'd say is use the D-Pad. Coming from MK, you need to speed up a little. MK is very lenient with their inputs and also let you press down then forward for their motions without the diagonal.
Build a rhythm with a rubbing motion and the attack button. Just streak from the down direction to the forward direction and press the attack button as soon as the motion comes to a stop.
Don't rush it either, find the slowest motion that allows you to get the command to work and keep practicing it from there. It'll come naturally eventually. Don't overthink it either
Dude this help me out so much!
So happy i found this video 😁
Great guide man, I have a question, I've seen in clips from previous version that 236 C/D can be hold for pressure, was this removed in this version or you gotta put an special input? thanks for the guide.
Not to my knowledge
BUT, what you may have seen is that when Izanagi is already summoned from a previous move or even a previous Zio, C version will always fire from where Izanagi is and the D version will always have Izanagi teleport and then fire from where you’re currently positioned.
You can try tossing a Zio D version on the ground then jump and do a C version while Izanagi is still out there and see if that’s what you might’ve been thinking of.
Great video, though I do have a question that would apply to every character. Is this a good way to get the double quarter circle inputs needed for moves like Ziodyne more consistently? I can do the moves that require only 1 circle input pretty well, but when it comes to ones that require 2, I tend to instead do the move that uses only 1 input, as if the first input I did was just movement and the second was the one used for the input. Is there a good way to pull it off more consistently or does it just take practice?
Pretty much just practice. If I had to guess, you might be rushing it a little and doing it *too* fast. You wanna make sure you get the attack input after the double quarter circle
Try doing it very slowly, get the rhythm and then speed it up
Holy shit, I remember watching your old guides ages ago, glad to see ya back! Hope you stick around! ( ╹▽╹ )
That’s the plan 😎
Yoooo this vid is fire. Even tho narukami is my second main, I still find it useful. Can i request you to do yosuke next since he’s my first main? 🙏🏿
Yeah I’m redoing all the old ones I did then starting on the rest of the cast
bro all honestly this guide is amazing im getting back in to p4au since ps3 days and you first person actually explain safe jump really well to me shit i hope you be come huge content creator in FGC
Appreciate that a ton! And the motivation means more than you know.
Hey nice too see some videos helping, thanks for the tips with these characters. Next i would like to see naoto, yukari or maybe even akihiko
Got 'em all coming soon
It’s great to see you back hopefully we get a Ken vid🙏🏾
Yessir. Ken video in a week or two
Return of the king.
The man's back again !
It's great to see you again man! Could you make an Adachi's guide too?
Coming soon 😎
do we get a junpei one?
Yup all characters getting a starter tutorial, advanced tips, and shadow guide
@@JayPhoenix tysmmmm
Ayyy The Return!!
Thank you so much, this guide is helping me alot!
Glad to hear it! 🙌🏾
Great video, man. I subbed
🙏🏾
Great video mate. Do you plan on redoing the other ones as well due to the time difference, like Adachi for instance?
Yup! Yosuke videos this week and hopefully Adachi video next week
@@JayPhoenix Bro I appreciate the quick reply. Definitely earned a sub. I'm pretty new to traditional 2d fighting games and love how easy to learn you made Adachi. Literally just started doing some of the basic tennis combos for the first time today so I'm grateful to hear you're gonna get a revamp of it. Best of luck mate.
@@albertwesker3299 Appreciate the kind words!
Hopefully I can help even more with the updated guide
And I mained Wesker in Marvel 3 haha
@@JayPhoenix Haha that's great. Quick question though. Do you know exactly when I should be inputting 214214A after tennis when Izanagi is slamming them down? I can't seem to get the timing of that down consistently. Not sure if I'm inputting too late or early.
I was wondering if you return once P4A comes out and here we are. Glad to have you back with a sick guide on yu! Also it's amazing that new guides, apparently, will be more detailed and thorough. As a new player, you've got my appreciation! Keep going king!
Yeah we back!!
Thanks for the encouragement. Always appreciated 💙