Why Muay Thai Dominates.
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Muay Thai dominates other martial arts. The combat sports world you see would be impossible without it. Throughout history, Thai athletes have proven this. And yet... Muay Thai really hasn't been given the credit it deserves world wide. Most people still do not see how dominant they were and are. Let's change that with this video!
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Why does Muay Thai dominate other martial arts?
Muay Thai gave combat sports around the world an evolution.
The combat sports world you see would be impossible without it.
Throughout history, Thai athletes have proven this.
And yet... Muay Thai really hasn't been given the credit it deserves world wide.
Most people still do not see how dominant they were and are. Let's change that with this video!
What do you think about the effectiveness of Muay Thai and do you think Thai athletes will soon dominate MMA?
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Can you do Lethwei Dominates next?
It's a peace of cake! It is becouse Muay Thai took a lot from other martial arts: strikes with firsts and legs, wrestling moves and added its own: elbows, knees. And the highest level of brutality of strikes. All of theese make Muay Thai extremely effective! That's my point.
Isn't lethwei better than muay thai
I disagree with this, on contrary, muay thai in my opinion is overrated in most big cities.. the only places where majority of people didnt see muay thai as the greatest stand up martial art are those outside of big cities.
While its true muay thai pro fighter is dominating, n also true that its the fastest way someone can get good at fighting.
It still wasnt a martial art for everyone.. vast majority of city dweller whom had no martial art background, dont have more than 4 hours a week to train, cant afford limping into the office n so on.. are in my opinion better take other style. Like kickboxing, karate or even boxing.
Cus this is what i experience often in muay thai gym, the trainer are so focused on physical drill.. those whom only train casually often didnt get much technique.
I think it’s one of the many effective martial arts out there.
I'm Thai and I grew up in the 80s and 90s when Muay Thai wasnt that well known internationally. The first times I started to realise that muay thai was special were these muay thai v karate or muay thai v taekwando matches that took place on tv in the 90s. I still remember how these flashy martial artists would start the fight supremely confident and land a few good hits on the muay thai fighter. A minute or two later the realisation would dawn. The muay Thai guy realises that these hits didnt have the power to hurt them and would then start walking the opponent down. A few low kicks later and you could see the opponent starting to flinch and lose all rhythm. After that it was just a matter of time. Now, I'mso thankful that people like you are helping to explain Muay thainto the world. Thank you ขอบคุณมากครับ
Thanks for tuning in. Muay Thai is very special.
U bet muay thai in the 90’s was badass
Muay thai is f’ing awesome. Currently practicing muay thai and bjj. Before i did boxing and kickboxing. I hope one day to be able to travel to Thailand.
I’m fortunate enough to have trained under a Thai guy in a country where he was likely the only one. The best sport and martial art ever.
@@slysoulja1861 Still is. It's the greatest style on Earth tbh
When I was a kid I gained some belts in karate, but as I got older I realized, if you ONLY learn one single martial art, Muay Thai is the way to go. It may not have ground game, but no ground art has striking either. Muay Thai incorporates the most tools and clinch grappling.
100%, thanks for sharing your thoughtful comment!
Muay Thai + BJJ is a lethal combination
What about Lethwei they give you headbutts on top of muay thai skills.
I disagree. drunken style is by far better than Muay thai
@@baseupp12 lethwei isn't as mainstream and Muay Thai is close enough to lethwei
Don’t forget, Anderson Silva used Muay Thai to dominate the UFC for a long time. Muay Thai is also very beautiful to watch.
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Also shogun and wanderlei with their chute boxe's muay thai that dominate in Pride FC
Yeah. Sort of. But Silva was educated in ALOT of other arts as well.
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Israel Adesanya too he trained muay thai and fight in full Muay Thai rules before he move to MMA and fight in UFC
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Israel Adesanya too he trained muay thai and fight in full Muay Thai rules before he move to MMA and fight in UFC
in my opinion, any martial art needs full contact sparring and it needs to have a flexible and adaptable attitude. if it's going to be useful in a fight. dogma is when it stagnates.
Yes absolutely true
Exactly. You’d be surprised at the techniques these fighting styles can do for you.
Again it is not the style. It is how you train and what you are training for. One thing is martial art for self defense, another thing is martial arts for combat sports, another thing is martial arts for fitness or the artistic part in martial arts. If your goal is the art part then Wushu, Aikido, Thaichi or Capoeira is what you need. If you want MA for combat sport then Muay Thai/kickboxing, BJJ/Sambo or Wrestling/Judo is what you need. If you want it for self defense then you might want something designed for that purpose like Kali, Krav Maga or Japanese Jujutsu, even though you can achieve part of it by combining Muay Thai with BJJ or Sambo but you still do know how to deal with multiple attackers orbwhat to do in case the other guy is armed.
But at the end it is about the figher not the style. They say: it is not the size of the dog that matters in a fight, what matters is the size of the fight in the dog.
@@1individeo capoeira has use when added into combat sports.
@@CP-uw4ts all martial arts have use in combat sports if used correctly and have the BS removed.
I'm Thai, and I'm very impressed with your Thai word pronunciation. Great job brother! 👍🙏
Thanks a lot for tuning in and the support !
Yeah the pronunciation was really good. เก่งมาก
เก่งจนผมคิดว่าเจ้าของช่องเป็นคนไทย แต่จริงๆน่าจะญี่ปุ่น
I've doing MT for little more than 2 months now and I can say it's tough, tough and really complicated technically. Still being a super noob you realize how many things you need to do well to throw a damn middle kick in the correct way, just an standing kick to the bag; combinating it inside a combo is just crazy at this point.
Talking to people in my gym, it seems that in average it takes from 2 to 3 years of training to be fully prepared for your amateur debut if you started as a rather athletic person (although there are ppl who fight after a year). This a freaking lot of time that works as nice indicator of how hard it is to learn just the very basics of the sport (imagine 2 years of training being required to play your first football, tennis or basket match and not to hurt yourself).
Another thing that I've found crazy is how much physical condition is required just to start learning the ultra super basics. You do need a lot of flexibility and joint mobility to throw basic kicks or knees, and super human strenght on your feet to hold your entire body weight in order to throw a knee or any kind of kick, which takes good time to develop.
I don't think full contact fighting sports can be compared to any other sport in terms of technical difficulty and physical condition requirements, at least none that a I've practiced. Even for climbing you can pretty much do something in the wall if you are a bit fit, but in these fighting sports you are nothing unless you work hard for years. Really tough shit.
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2-3 years? Liam Harrison had his first fight after 6 months.
@@bigjay24910 And Adesanya in 3 months, but those are outliers and probably trained several hours a day. For a regular person with a job and other life responsibilities it takes way more time.
@@AyusoEnjoyer nope Liam Harrison was still in school full time
@@bigjay24910 Some people are more talented than others, but even in school (and given the fact that he's a top level professional) I think he probably trained like 3-7 hours a day, which probably helped to achieve a debut so soon.
In Spain we've a guy called Eduardo Catalin who was the K1 national champion and he did a video on TH-cam where he said he started training about 3-5 hours a day since his very beginning. He was 14-16 yo at the time, and his routine was basically going to highschool on the morning, doing homeworks till 17:00 or so and training the rest of the day, which could perfectly be about 4-5 hours at most. I don't know how long it took for him to debut, but I bet Liam Harrison, Adesanya and these guys did something similar (and more people).
What I wantednto say in my comment is that unless you do something like this, with full extra motivation and dedication, following a "regular" training routine it takes those 2-3 years to acquire the basic skills of the sport, while in others you can do something "acceptable" in way less time. Obviously, if you play soccer and train 6 hours a day while regular people do 2 you will become better much sooner aswell, but it's not common.
My favourite thing about muay thai is the sweeps. Due to western boxing being my favourite martial art/combat sport. I love seeing muay thai fighters who can adapt it into their style. Anyone else feel the same?
Ya when Muay Thai fighters incorporate boxing, that’s when you get the slickest strikers
@@LawrenceKenshin any Muay Thai fighters you recommend to study whose style revolve around boxing?
@@bigman6315 Rodtang's boxing is pretty solid. Samart went on to become an excellent boxer after Muay Thai though I haven't seen enough of his fights to see how he uses it within a Muay Thai context
Same here; I train Muay Thai, have done so many many years now. my style is focused heavily around my Boxing, and my low kicks. I also draw the most inspiration from fighters that can "do it all" that have superior Western Boxing AND Muay Thai kicks, knees, elbows, clinches, defense, so on. Like Samart. Buakaw is KINDA an example of this too. But its western fighters that have adapted to Muay thai, or started from it from the beginning, like Gabriel varga or Joe Valtellini, that inspires me the most; cause its most similar to my own style.
@@luisdawnfinder3188 thanks man
The reason why Muay Thai dominates stand up styles is four fold;
1. It's NOT a defensive art - MT is aggressive and is designed to destroy the opponent if they are do not have the basics to defend. Most other striking arts are defensive by nature.
2. MT does not 'tip-tap' it is always full contact, and ALWAYS with the hardest parts of the body - the instep is not used in kicks - its a pressure point! - instead the round kick hits with the shin (where the two bones fuse into one)... and then the flat of the foot or heel. Elbows are the hardest bone in the body - what it hits, it destroys. And of course to defend these attacks the body is conditioned and calcified to become accustomed to absorbing the hits.
3. MT trains to fight and always hits full contact in training. Constant pad work that is generally fluid, dynamic and ever changing in positions - a good pad trainer will change the angles, distances and targets, and the fighter adapts and hones their reflexes and response time to the openings. There is no kata, there is no set sparring drills - it is all fluid and designed to be as realistic as possible.
4. The intensity and amount of training. 2 x 3 hour sessions a day 6 days a week.
Overall Muay Thai is a complete stand up fighting style that is deadly at every distance. The technique of MT ensures that every hit is a nuclear bomb - something other striking styles are not used to, trained for, or have the techniques to combat it. MT is proven in all comers, all weights, against all striking styles, anywhere, anytime.
What also needs to be clarified is that Muay Thai was born out of the battlefield where it was a complete style of weapons and unarmed fighting style called Pahuyuth. For training purposes it was separated into two areas; Krabi Krabong (weapons), and Muay Thai (unarmed) due to too many death in training - remember this was a proven and highly utilised art that was readily used in battle through-out the centuries.
Thanks for sharing your thoughtful and detailed comment!
Until first wrestler lmao.
@@paulbadman8509 I guess you missed the parts where I stated... the reasons why they dominate STAND UP STYLES ...
And for your information, just because you are a dominant wrestler does NOT mean you will automatically win - ask Ronda Rousey about that against Holly Holm and a host of other fights that has happened.
@@leagreenall5972 the ronda case is because she listen to her coach edmond to abandons her judo skills (she's black belt and olympic brozen medal in judo) and just focus in her boxing and striking skills, her striking sucks but her grappling is good due to judo. And she thought she can use her striking agaisnt holly holms, a former boxer and kickboxer. Ronda before that was dominated the division with her judo skills
@@ThePhenom9x My case still stands... what you implied is that any skilled Muay Thai fighter will get beaten by any wrestler - and that just isn't true.
Not to mention that ground work -and taking to the ground in MMA and the such have watered down rules that would not allow MT fighters to even use downward elbows.... in fact they are really strict on elbows period - a bread and butter for Muay Thai fighters - that are not allowed to adapt it to defence against takedowns or when on ground.
Don't get me wrong, I'm under no illusion that a wrestler on their game will take down a MT fighter on their game since 73% of fights do end up on the ground during a fight .... but to make a blanket statement that a MT fighter will basically always get beat by a wrestler is ridiculous- in fact you had to make rationalisations to equivocate your position.
And for the record the statistics for knockouts and stoppages due to strikes is more than submissions in MMA with only 30% going to the judges.
Do you even train? Have you ever fought? Or are you just an armchair commentator who thinks he knows his stuff because he's spent quite a bit of money on pay per view?
I served in the navy years ago and we went to Thailand. There was a ring set up where people could challenge thai fighters...
I've never seen Marines get taken apart so easily. Don't underestimate the thai guy that's 5'2 because that's your ass.
To be fair, it's not like unarmed hand-to-hand combat is a particularly stressed part of any modern soldier's training. If you're in a fistfight on the battlefield, something has gone terribly wrong.
@@AirLancer I don't know much about military stuff, but aren't Marines supposed to be the toughest of the bunch in the army?
@@DreamteamCarlo being though won’t stop you from getting knocked out. It just take longer.
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Great stuff as always ,gave me chills!.
Flow style is correct. We Typically don't teach long complex combos. You learn your weapons, then you learn to flow those weapons together in ANY order based on the situation. A good pad holder will mix them up so everything becomes a reflex and not a preprogrammed static combo thats easy to read and anticipate.
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excellent description
I'm 15 and started training about 2 months ago, I am not as heavily dedicated as these people but going through the training, it seems really clear that it's an affective martial art.
Edit, June 12 2023 seems like the motivation is fueling but I have some not so good news:
School scheduling + draining drama, along with the fact Muay Thai training costs allot for the wallets of my parents has not been able to be properly sustainable. I decided I wanted to focus on my diet and do some weight loss (because I was overweight) and now everyone around me has noticed I lost weight, when I get the time I will try to do Muay Thai or even MMA later on, or develop on basic sports like badminton, basketball and volleyball, however I will always put this martial arts into consideration the moment I get enough time to enact on it.
Stick to it lil bro you gonna be a badass. Your older and younger self will be proud of you
@@AriZonaK1DD thanks man
Hey. Hope you're still training homie. I grew up competing; it was easily one of the best things I've ever done in my life. Made me into a man. Super useful. Brings a lot of respect. Training is a bitch and it's nice to just be able to kick it after school. But like the other dude said. Your future self will be hype af, you're on the right track. Get some jiu jitsu in there too, at least enough to where you're not defenseless if you get taken down. Join wrestling if you want to get ripped and also really fucking good at combat sports. Brutal, but it's so worth it
The Video says staring at 15 is starting too late by Thai standards and honestly what are you going to use this training for??
Pick up a book and try to go to college or pick an actual job and start training for that, this would probably be much more beneficial than learning a fighting style you most likely will never use!!! learn Morse code while you are at it too, seriously sports are the worst thing to waste your time on, try a book or learn a musical instrument , most people who waste their time on sports while young usually never use that sport after becoming an adult
@@AriZonaK1DD terrible advice, he needs to learn how to be a productive adult. the video says learning at 15 is too late, tell him to pick up a book and become smart at something He may actually use in life!!!!!
I love this "Why martial arts Dominates?" series. You should keep it up and make it into a playlist.
Thanks ! I’m trying to come up with a good name for the playlist, do you have any name ideas other than “why martial arts dominate”
@@LawrenceKenshin "The power of x"
@@LawrenceKenshin domination of martial arts
Do judo next
This "Why" series is nicely done.
You raised an interesting point about Muay Thai introducing MMA ground training; The way they train and frequency of fights could create a new breed of fighters.
Thank you!
Nice episode! I think MT is still underrated. I grew up with K1 in the Netherlands and was always fascinated (like other Dutch fighters) with true MT. Not without a reason that figthers like Ramon Dekkers went to Thailand to fight Thai fighters. Unfortunately today is all MMA and you cannot watch a MT fight without someone screaming mma. I don't have anything with MMA and kicking/hitting someone who is lying on the floor still goes against my nature. Each their own, but in a world dominated my mma currently it is nice to watch such an episode! I am glad One still has MT fights (although it sometimes difficult to skip through the mma fights during an event ;) ).
Yet another great upload! Not only is the editing top notch, but your insight into 'all things Muay related' is mind-blowing to me... more so given your relatively young age! (I'm an old git, and anyone under 40 is a 'young man/woman' to me! 😂). Brilliant work buddy 👍 (fyi... I'm a 66yo English guy... 'retired' to this little island in the Gulf of Thailand 21 yrs ago... the last 20 with my wonderful (Thai) wife 😁... There are at least 5 or 6 Muay Thai 'training camps' and gyms within a mile radius of where I live, and it is common to see young lads (6, 7+) jogging on the side of the road at various times during the cooler parts of the day. Your interpretations and breakdowns always manage to catch the 'nuances' of not just the fights themselves, but also just how crucial Muay Thai is to Thai culture on many levels. Your passion is appreciated mate... Top Man! 🙏👍😁
I love this channel. You always give a detailed and comprehensive breakdown of every art you cover. Gratitude.
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Muay Thai is definitely the full hand to hand combat experience, it's the most versatile Martial Arts I'd say. While Muay Thai doesn't have any grappling, your average street fighter isn't gonna know any submissions or holds, but Muay Thai doesn't have clinch, and it's super effective. Not only does it give you control over your opponent, it also sets you up for sweeps and dumps. So to answer your question on why Muay Thai dominates? It's because Muay Thai is versatile, it incorporates your whole body instead of just hands or legs. It's literally the hand to hand combat you see in action movies.
Yes Muay Thai may not allow grappling but it isn't the full version of the art either. Muay Chaiya and Muay Boran does have a grappling but it deemed too dangerous for a sport and it can't be spar easily either.
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Muay Thai and some good grappling experience is going to let you whoop 99.9% of people you’d ever get in a streetfight with.
@@jooot_6850 exactly lol, if you start combat sports soley for self defense, a good 6 months of training will guarantee you a win in every street fight
@@salvulcano1136 wouldn't say guarantee but you could beat up most chumps in a 1v1 with no weapons
I love your videos. The breakdown of the videos is exceptional. I haven't come across these types of videos on youtube. Keep em coming.
Thanks so much for the support! Really means a lot!
These videos are brilliant! I love how you go into the history of this art. Very knowledgeable!! Thanks 🙏
Really happy to hear you enjoy them!
Every time these videos come out, they're the highlight of my day, love the content 🔥🔥🔥
Thanks for much for tuning in Alvaro
I’ve been training this art for a month. I must say i am addicted to it to the point that i am already booked for a month of training in Thailand. I love this art and it has consumed most of my attention.
If you are in the fence to get it into it… DO IT!
It’s the best
Nice to hear! Keep it Up man!
How it going
@@yurrr4338 went to Thailand, trained two months, had a fight with a more experienced thai fighter, won on the second round by knockout, still training and helping my coaches gym get more people and am now aiming to get certified as a trainer to continue the tradition aa best i can! I love this sport.
@@nomadnorbert that’s amazing bro 🙏
I think the thai sparring is their main strength, it's so good, i have it a few times, and i'm always amazed how well they do control the output, it's hard so you remember what you did wrong, but not enough that you can't keep it for a good session.
I mainly study japanese styles, for me personally, traditional jiujitsu it's unmatched, it has everything, but our sparring is too soft (atleast in europe) and our events need a rework, we do even get warnings and bans for hitting "too hard".
When you know your opponent can't hit you hard, it affects to your style, a thai fighter do not have nothing besides the core of moves that works in a real scenario, that also makes a big difference in a cage.
Lawrence, we love your reviews. This one is spot on. Thanks keep up the good work. We are always adding your reviews when we can. I hope it helps your channel. Cheers!!
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I started with Taekwondo. Then I trained in Muay Thai for many years. Now Okinawan Goju Ryu karate. Nothing compares to the brutal efficiency of Muay Thai. Kap khun krap 🙏 🇹🇭
Given a choice between Muay Thai, Taekwondo and Kickboxing, Which one would you suggest for a beginner looking to improve agility, footwork and flexibility ?
@@varun9366 agility and footwork and flexibility, go taekwondo. You will improve in those areas quickly if you start with taekwondo
I'm primarily a boxer and I've always found Muay Thai''s punching and footwork/head movement to be comparatively lacking, but the clinch work, leg kicks, elbows, and knees are devastating. Which is why I've started crosstraining, though in a bit more of the "Dutch-style" than traditional MT with more focus on my boxing skills with some leg kicks and limiting elbows and knees much more to the clinch and favoring striking with my hands and being more fluid in my movements outside of clinches over using my legs as such a primary weapon.
MT conditioning their body and the result they have better immune to pain. You could say that they unlock the no hesitation to strike at full force while taking reaction damage. They don’t need protection gear to really kick someone. For boxer you never train your leg to kick or be kicked. Rufus prove that for you. Everyone have a plan until they get check kick in the leg. Boxer flashy movement will unable to perform. Rufus learned that.
A Muay Thai fighter that developes a good ground game could most definitely dominate in the MMA, just look at how dominate Anderson Silva was with his mixed martial arts styles.
Same with israel Adesanya and his upcoming nemesis :)
@@LawrenceKenshin Perez* that African got whooped by the real up incomer .
Stamp fairtex
Thing interesting thing about MMA is that it time an time again seems to show that there is no complete fighter and even the very best guy can have glaring weakness's, it seems like it won't be possible for any specialist or style to be able to enter MMA and prove it is the optimal style to train in, there will always be an answer to the style.
@@sneesus98 of cause continuous evolution my man
Was looking for videos to show my son before we start Muay Thai training. This will be the first one. Thank you 🙏🙏
Thanks for always pointing out the cooperative light sparring style of muay thai. It really does make for longer careers and a better learning environment. Its so often overlooked. Sometimes it can be more entertaining to watch than a fight.
Yup. People rave about full contact sparring if they don't do it themselves. Damaging your body hurts and takes you from training. Most of us have jobs and lives where we can't be losing teeth or having serious injuries.
I’m loving this series. What other martial arts do you plan on doing?
Thanks so much. Do you have recommendations? I’m open to feedback
@@LawrenceKenshin Sanda and Yawyan maybe.
Silat? Muay Boran? Lethwei? Kalari?
Ive trained in MT for many years and transitioned to MMA, i thought about kickboxing but id rather continue MT because of the clinching and the elbows, its not very limiting, basically MMA without the ground fighting and takedowns
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Good video! Hope to see more of these series on other arts
loved seeing the clip of Sitjaopho! going to train there next month & can't wait!
With how few muay Thai fighters go into MMA it's amazing that we've had so many top level MMA fighters with muay Thai as a base. Anderson Silva, Jose Aldo, Valentina Shevchenko, Darren Till, Ciryl Gane, Jan Blachowitz and many more. And none of them are even from Thailand, these foreign muay thai fighters who aren't as good are dominating in MMA. The only martial art that is as good as muay Thai is wrestling
Joanna and Zhang Wei li too !
It's also amazing that all of them would get demolished in Lumpinee Stadium. Yet they had very good careers. Style Bender also has a background in Muay Thai and Kick boxing.
@@arnmazing3156 Izzy is more of a classic kickboxer, he was in glory. He is a great kickboxer, and he's one of the best strikers in UFC history, yet he probably can't compare to pretty good Thai fighters
@@LawrenceKenshin zhang is more of sanda than muay thai, she just change to bangtao nuay thai & mma gym recently
Been a while since I've seen one of your videos, but I'm always glad to come back! It's probably my jiu-jitsu background, but I've always enjoyed watching Muay Thai fighters in the clinch, and how often they turn a clinch into a sweep or throw. Unfortunately, many U.S. boxing referees try to separate clinches as fast as they can, even though boxers like Duran make plain how much the clinch can be a legitimate and powerful part of boxing. But MMA would not succumb to such nonsense. On another note, getting thrown or swept can be humiliating as well as stunning, knocking the wind out of you, and potentially damaging. It can be demoralizing because it can feel like one has been made a fool of. Throwing and sweeping are really useful, and I actually wish I would see Muay Thai stylists and MMA stylists both doing more of it. But I always enjoy it when I see it. I guess if I were to take up training Muay Thai, I'd weird everyone out by asking, "Can you show me how you do those sweeps and throws?"
Look up saenchai videos, if he could he would love to sweep yo ass and then teach you how he did it in person. He is arguably the best at it
Great video and spot on.
Most complete stand up style and devastating at all ranges.
On top of this the Thai dedication to training and sheer toughness, makes them the best pound for pound fighters.
Very good and informative video, I always like your videos. I cant point out a single video that I dont like. You simply make every video amazing, some of my favorites are you videos are Saenchai, Genki Sudo and Lerdsila, just to name a few. And yes, I also think that when Muay Thai fighters in Thailand gets support from the MMA and other groundfighting coaches, the fighters from Thailand will become a Terminator. 🦾🦿
Keep up the good work Lawrence Kenshin🙏
thank you so much for the support, means a lot !
The only real problem I can foresee with Muay Thai in MMA is their overwhelming use of body kicks. Body kicks are a major source of takedowns. Mma allows you to grab the leg and take as many steps as you like, this may take away one of their biggest weapons.
It’s not that hard to learn to sprawl.
@@iBeo01 It’s not quite as simple as that I’m afraid mate:
You can learn a basic sprawl relatively easily I suppose, but it’s not enough against a good wrestler.
You will get taken down, so you need to know enough to defend yourself on the ground, otherwise you won’t be getting back up to your feet.
I came into MMA training from a standup background, and it was fucking awful at first having to deal with takedowns, as well as learning how to grapple.
There’s just so much depth to it, it requires a totally different level/type of gas tank and it’s really hard on the body; especially if you’re a new to it.
Thai fighters are used to catching kicks and getting their kicks caught. I forget his name but there's a 40 year old Lumpinee Champion in One Championship and was doing pretty well for his age competing in mma against younger competitors. Had he been younger and trained MMA at an early age he would've been dominant. Thai fighters are very high level strikers what you see in ufc ain't even it.
Well you can stick to leg kicks and head kicks too. Mastering one thing doesn't mean you need to spam it in another ruleset. I'd be more worried about the fact their weight distribution tends to be more on the back leg which isn't good to defend take downs.
@@westington1 I did Judo first and after did karate. Sometimes I was amazed how it is useful to have wrestling skills when a distance got super close. But I was afraid of punching in a face becouse boxing skills I didn't have at all.
Love this video! Great research! Keep it coming!
Lawrence,
You are a true savant! World class as always. As a student of Muay Thai/Boran I value your incredible insights.
Best,
Coe McGrath
BJJ Black Belt
I used to train in karaté, full contact (american boxing), french savate and kickboxing.
For some years i ve trained in Muay thaï.
I m 54 years old... I deeply regret not to have trained in Muay thaï at first. Because, it's so beautiful and effective. But when i was young there was no Muay thaï gym in my area and i didn't know such a sport was existing. Both my sons are more lucky, they start with Muay thaï, and love that.
Whether it’s true or not, you could debate, but as a generalization I have said “The Thai’s are the best fighters in the world”. I hope to one day soon travel there and train with them. I cannot imagine a more humbling and worthwhile learning experience for an aspiring martial artist.
Much love Mr. Kenshin your videos are always incredibly inspiring, well produced, and nothing short of epic
Thanks so much for the support
Lawrence! Amazing video as always! You said something about Muay Thai being the most complete standup martial and I agree. I wonder what your opinion on shoot boxing is being that Andy Souwer said the same of it years ago.
Long time fan. 1st Time commenting. Always appreciate your work. I learned more from your content than I have in training alone the last 20 years
No fluff, no flash, no waste, only combat proven techniques. Western countries had no idea what real training was. Even the hard core clubs in the 70’s didn’t match what the Thai’s were doing. I thought l knew, l had to live it to truly understand. Deep respect for this devastating warrior art from the land of smiles.
I miss Muay Thai so much! I can not spar anymore, because i have retina detachement in both eyes. This Video showed me again why i love Muay Thai, even though i can not practice it to the fullest anymore.
Is that from MT or it just happend out of nowhere?
@@fettiroma3022 It happened from nowhere, i did not even spar hard. I have strong myopia and that is probably the cause for my detachement.
@@Thitix5 so, is it lifelong no sparring or just temporary?
@@vinayvikramsingh It is permanent. I have eye cerclage in both eyes, so I have a much higher chance to detache my retina again, so no hits on my head is allowed.
@@Thitix5 sorry to hear that
Another great video as always also I have a question is it to late at age 23 to potentially start trying to do kickboxing to reach a professional level?
It really depends on your talent level and what you’re willing to sacrifice. Some have done it starting late
@@LawrenceKenshin Thanks I guess I just need to find a good gym and just train and see where I go.
@@baseupp12 It's gonna be TOUGH and you WILL have to take it SERIOUSLY from the very start. Don't let it overwhelm you. Eventually you will develop enough that you will be wanting to run every day, to maintain your cardio and your figure and weight, and shadow box EVERY day from the very start of your training. And I'm talking about half an hour(or longer) shadow boxing sessions to really teach you what to do and make these techniques REFLEX; you will need to develop the ability to actually imagine yourself in a fight or spar, while shadow boxing; this is image training. Its not some anime thing, its real. And it helps a GREAT deal. You SHOULD do this ALWAYS, but esp during the first six months to really get those basics down. You'll always be using those basics after all, so you should perfect them and know the correct times to use them; and you will be doing defensive drills during shadow boxing too. The point is it takes a TON of physical AND mental fortitude and effort but you WILL be able to do it if you truly want to, and put your mind to it.
You should start training now though. I also started both my BJJ and also my Muay Thai training very late; I was around 21 or so when I started, I think. I'm not a professional fighter, but I am an amateur fighter who competes in our Amateur competitions; and I spar quite a bit like everyone else who does this. I love every minute of it. If I TRULY put my mind to it I prob could become pro level with not much adjustment to my actual technique; it would require me to vastly increase my cardio though; and frankly I get what I need out of the amateur comps and out of my regular sparring that I dont feel any need to fight professionally, even if I could, right now, without any prep.
Amazing video, keep up the great work!
Really appreciate you tuning in!
Your videos and voice are awesome. Thanks for the content.
I love these breakdowns of the different striking styles on how they either dominate or get destroyed. Hope to see one on Boxing next. Keep them coming!!!!!!!
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Imo, Muay Thai is the most effective bare-handed martial art. because it use almost all parts of body that can be use as a weapon in such simple and effective way. Combine it with Brazilian Jiu-Jitsu for ground fighting gonna makes it almost perfect
I’m starting Muay Thai soon, and I’m very excited to do so. There’s so much I have come to appreciate about the sport - how “complete” and efficient it is with the “eight limbs”, giving ample opportunity for multiple strikes with significantly less movement than other disciplines. Another thing that I love is how dynamic and unpredictable it is. A Thai Boxer can be reserved, almost stiff, one moment, then suddenly out of nowhere perform some of the most impressive feats of athleticism; those flying knees blow my mind every time!
Amazing, i absolutely love Muay Thai and you knocked it out of the park with this video. Thank you so much.
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Lawrence kenshin is the absolute 🐐
thank you for the support!
Once again, is not the martial art that makes a great fighter, but a great and dedicated martial artist. Discipline, hard work, humbleness and a lot of bruises makes a true warrior. But I would lie if didn't acknowledge that I learned that from muay thai, i've been training for ten years now and i love it more everyday
A great video once more. Thanks for your info that you share with us
Great piece brotha, very informative and compelling!
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I believe the Thais have a way to go before you start seeing them en masse in MMA. With that said it is starting to happen in the One Championship promotion with fighters like Stamp Fairtex. I guess time will tell but they have quite a bit of 'ground' to cover so to speak. If kushti wrestling from India had penetrated Burma, Thailand, Cambodia then we would be seeing these guys routinely in the UFC.
yes starting to happen, will pick up after they build infrastructure
I first went to train MT in Thailand in 2006 and my gym was only one of two in the country I could find that had a visiting BJJ instructor. Now there are as many BJJ instructors in Thailand as any other modern place.
Kushti wrestling isn't even dominating MMA so why would Thais need it? They only need wrestling or BJJ
@@mrt445 if Thailand had a wrestling tradition similar to the Caucasus then they would be more of a presence in MMA was my point. Kushti is the nearest wrestling tradition to southeast Asia.
@@elindioedwards7041 Yes if the had a freestyle wrestling or Roman Greco culture but definitely not Kushtic wrestling which hasn't produced successful MMA fighters. Kushti wrestling is not what they need.
MT is a measure of your health. If you can make it through a 90 min + training session with a group of active MT fighters then your in better shape than the majority of athletes out there in terms of conditioning.
This was an awesome video and I'm loving the series. Can you also make a video about sanda too?
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Thank you bro you’re wonderful keep the hard work
If you really think about it, Muay Thai hasn't really more to offer than other traditional martial arts (excluding the modern watered-down sports).
As you said, the main difference is in training and application: lots of people training from an early age and fully dedicating themselves. That's how you create fighters and how you end up with a good amount of champions.
Second: application - full contact, not shying away from using powerful attacks and focusing on practicality.
Those are the central points that make the difference and they could be applied to every (proper) martial art. It's just that many aren't practiced like that anymore and with less dedication or been watered down to a reductive sport.
how does it not offer more? that's like saying hundreds of years of scientific evolution doesnt have more to offer than junk science
@@LawrenceKenshin It cannot offer more, because every martial art is ultimately restricted by what the human body is capable of.
There's nothing exclusive to Muay Thai. You can take Indian martial arts, Okinawan karate, pancration, you name it. The tools are the same (you can find very similar techniques of striking/ grappling/ weapon arts in various places across the globe and periods of time). It's all about hard training, dedication and focus on practicality.
Thailand is in an interesting position where their traditional martial art has largely been conserved (both in variety of techniques and full-contact application) and hasn't lost its widespread appeal.
That's simply not the case for most other true martial arts, which have either lost their popularity and/or they have largely been replaced by a watered-down sport that cripples the repertoire and no longer focuses on martial effectiveness.
So you shouldn't be surprised to find a higher number of capable Thai fighters - in fact you explained it very well in this video.
Equally you shouldn't compare an actual martial art to sports that have evolved from, but are not the actual martial art and are not trained to a level of martial effectiveness, if you know what I mean.
It doesnt offer more theory is wrong. It offers more staight out of the bat with elbows and knees
@@CraveThatCoin.... As if Muay Thai was the only martial art using elbows and knees... Come on. Even older forms of boxing still used elbow and knees. Pretty much every actual martial art does.
@@youtubevoice1050 yes of course but the majory dont. So you saying its just about application is wrong. There are more tools compared to most martial arts. And by tools i mean usable tools not some useless wing chun stuff.
It is also a decent defence martial art (high guard, blocks, movement) compared to TKD for example with a low guard
By your theory is you train wing chun at the same intensity as Thai boxing then its equal. It isnt becuse the techniques of MT are highly applicable.
Muay Thai doesn't have ground game because in war, if you're on the ground, you're dead. They don't have to wrestle with you in war, you get stomped. There is no rule in war.
Actually even today, there are soooo many situations you actually cant go down to do submission. You throw the person down, you stomp the head or hit him with any object.
Great video. Your Thai is very on point! 👍🏼
Great video as always.
One suggestion tho. I think the background music kinda overtakes your spoken audio. I'd recommend having your voice audio be much louder than the background music.
If the music is too loud it can be distracting to your points. It was even hard to make out the Thai names u were saying.
Gotta work on the audio mixing. Still a fan. :D
Thanks for the recommendation!
Muay Thai has been the main striking style of American MMA fighters for two decades now. Go to any MMA gym in Arizona and their striking program will be Muay Thai in more than ninety percent of the gyms.
Actually thai style Muay Thai has not penetrated MMA, started to, but not yet.
@@LawrenceKenshin it's western style Muay Thai, but it's Muay Thai Trevor and Troy lally taught me all your relevant clinch, knee, and elbow, attacks along with Thai style kicks and defenses to all these things, including long guard defense, sweeps etc...with the punching style being more influenced by western boxing in form, arm position and defense. Thai fighters coming from Thailand to fight in MMA is still in evolution for the reasons you stated, but muay Thai is still the main foundation for MMA striking in the US today, I'd argue that Muay Thai has had less of an influence in recent years in the US as more people are open to adopting things from karate, dutch kickboxing etc...in the early 2000s when I was fighting, there was a strong belief that Muay Thai and BJJ was the end all be all and training in other stuff was a waist of time and effort that you could have been putting into Muay Thai and BJJ. Wrestling and boxing quickly made themselves seem as useful and the guys like machita made everyone say maybe there's some benifit to these traditional martial arts too and spinning heel kicks, karate/TKD style front kicks, etc...started come into play, at this point there's a greater cross pollination of arts than ever in MMA.
Yes, an episode for one of 2 strking included in 4 pillar art in MMA. I think you should cover boxing too.
Also, make a video where you analyze pros&cons between MMA fighters whose main striking skillset is Boxing-oriented and Muay Thai/Kickboxing-oriented
One more thing, there are 4 martial arts which cover 2 of 3 MMA fighting phases ( Standup, Clinch and Ground )
1. Muay Thai
2. Sanda/Sanshou
3. Shootboxing
4. Combat Sambo ( also including ground )
What about a video about Sanda, Shootboxing and Sambo ?
Great ideas ! Thanks for the thoughts will try to feature it
@@LawrenceKenshin It's nothing. I love your videos and the way you make it. I hope that ideas will make this channel become one of the most reliable sources about martial art out there ( especially for beginners and non-martial practioners ) to learn about the science, the grace and the truth of martial arts.
Every fight starts from stand-up combat...so...striking knowledge is undeniably sth for anyone who want to train martial arts for whatever reasons to look up firstly out of anything.
Thank you for dedication in every ounce of your work !!!
Where do you actually go train San da with the level of coaches and training partners you could get at a MT gym?
Thailand people should be very proud because different people from around the world love muai thai including me
🙏 Great Video Bro!
I have been training 5 years full MMA, and what I've noticed while transitioning from a boxing/kickboxing background and doing BJJ and Wrestling is that fighters in the UFC stand a lot wider allowing them to have a stronger reach projection. I also believe that the square stance needed to throw moves like the teep makes you susceptible to double leg shots. But yes I do agree with the statement that Muay Thai does dominate other martial arts.
It's all pros and cons. More vulnerable to a double leg, but a bladed stance puts your lead leg further ahead for the single. Muay Thai with long range management and a good sprawl could still be pretty nasty
I would *love* to see top Muay Thai fighters being allowed to use their full arsenal in MMA competitions. We can only really know how it will go when it happens. I suspect Muay Thai fighters can adapt very quickly to the MMA scene, and it would be great to see more Muay Thai in something like the UFC, Bellator, etc.
in mma and ufc, muay thai is the most common style alongside brazilian jiu jitsu....
I love your channel so much!!!!
Thank you so much!!
Great video man thank you, for anyone thinking about starting training MT, do it, it’s one of the best decisions I ever made
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the fight between DJ vs Rodtang proves that ground game is just so strong against Muay Thai, it's very hard for a MT guy to learn Wrestling/Bjj to defend takedowns, they are too deep in standing arts and they have no time to waste on ground games (at least 3-5 years), they have to make money right now with their MT.
Rodtang spend only a few months training. He has time to transition properly but they didn’t do it
@@LawrenceKenshin it takes years to learn grappling, even if he was given 4 years to prepare he would still lose
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Did he prepare grapling for 4years??
And why u know he still lose even if he train for 4years??
@@undertheglassmoon2239 rodtang is considered one of the greatest if not THE greatest muay Thai specialists of all time, and he got mauled by DJ who specializes in grappling, literally didn't stand a chance when the match turned into MMA. Not trying to hate, I do muay Thai and jiu jitsu, I'm just stating facts as a fan of both martial arts.
@@efx80 stop blabbering man.. i already knew all that..
My question still stand tho..
Simplicity of 8 limbs and battle proven effectively. Nothing against Karate or TKD... but Muay Thai is just the best. #JakeHunter88
For sure
Great video as always 👌
Thanks a lot for the support !
Mad respect to y'all Muay Thai fighters! Keep kicking ass!
muay thai > boxing
yes
Not in mma.
@@Todo_fighting nah mos def in mma..
Do kudo karate
what do you like about it?
I got goosebumps watching this video Lawrence. Everything you said I totally agree with. I think the top Nak Muays will do well in MMA because they have incredible balance.
But I will say that I wish this wouldn't happen. I was sad to see most to the top talent going to Kickboxing. I love Muay Thai. I understand the fighters fighting other disciplines because that is where the money is. I don't blame them one bit.
I will rue the day when it will be difficult to watch the best of the best in Muay Thai because of MMA, in fact with Kickboxing, it's already happening.
Great stuff!
What do you think about sanda
I see a lot of Chinese sanda champs sparring Muay Thai fighters and holding their own
Next: Wing Wing Chun dominates, after that: Why Aikido Dominates.
Nah, just joking they're garbage.
hahahaha
There is already a video on Wing Chun
@@GoogleHelpYou Yeah, why its garbage.
Good video thanks for putting in the effort making this video
Glad you enjoyed it!
The Thais worked out, from hard experience, that solidity of the striking surface, and the momentum of the blow, mattered more than absolute power. A punch can have a 1,000 ft lbs of force, and people survive it. Hands deform, and a blow that generates its power by speed is like a light and fast bullet. A shin with the whole leg and rotation behind it, or a knee, or an elbow, might - according to a sensor - have 600 ft lbs behind it. But it's like a car crash. The momentum of a knee is huge. It doesn't stop when it hits your chest. It deforms your rib cage and breaks your ribs.
Always love your videos since the beginning, but we've just seen 2 P4P greats Rodtang vs DJ in a MMA round. That high level ground game is a must.
Thanks! Rodtang did not have much training in grappling
I find really interesting when pure strikers dominates in MMA, like Adesanya for example. There approach isn't so much to become good grappler, but just to implement an anti-wrestling strategy.
Beautiful episode once again.
Thank you so much
Freaking love these guys,the intensity, the viciousness,the speed and power,and then the unbelievable defense.i would love to see these guys in MMA.
The history/myth (no, the two are not irreconcilable) presented here is AWESOME. Was totally ignorant to this. Love it. Great piece!!
Glad you enjoyed it!
Great video as usual. I agree that Muay Thai is one of the most complete striking systems, however while there have been many successful Muay Thai fighters that transitioned to boxing I would not say that they dominated boxing, certainly not even close to the degree they do in kickboxing. I would expect similar results in MMA. A great place to watch the evolution is ONE FC where fighters transition between Muai Thai, Kickboxing and MMA (sadly very little boxing).
Great Job.
Thanks a lot, agree with what you said here!
I believed Samart had an Olympic medal
@@damienthetexasian6827 Not sure about an Olympic medal but he won the WBC world championship.
@@damienthetexasian6827 That is Somrak who won Olympic. He is junior of Samart. And later Sakchai is junior of Somrak.
Dutch kickboxer myself but u got alot of admiration for Muay Thai!
Dutch kickboxing is still a third muay thai, Kyokushin Karate and Western boxing, but i love the learn to be better in the clinch and learn about the throws, sweeps and elbow techniques.
Love you're content Lawrence keep it up!
The holy trinity of MMA (that can make a fighter complete):
Muay Thai = standing/on feet devastating strikes
Wrestling = standing to ground transition via brutal slams
Bjj = grounded submission/incapacitation
I have to admit as an older subscriber its still a little weird hearing your voice but at the end I agree this is better than reading the written explanations 👍✌️
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You have to do a video on Lethwei now. I'm surprised by how many differing opinions people have on the sport ans I'm keen to know your take on it
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From what I've heard, Brazil has a variant of Muay Thai called "Chute Boxe" which is specically designed for MMA rather than the ring. That format requires some adjustment due to the risks of small gloves and the threats of takedown.
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Chute Boxe is the name of an academy here in Brazil, not a style
There´s nothing more beautiful in martial arts than muay thai. Even the stance is a thing to watch gracefully... Also the way they can stand still and receive blows and pressure with such composure and perfect balance. Thailand built a human treasure
The cultural heritage is amazing, real and important. Very impressive. The more i learn and train i understand how long the way to go is. And always interesting and fin.
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Always wanted to learn Muay Thai since I was in my teens but I admit that I'm too much of a pussycat to learn it. However, I think this video has given me the motivation to learn the art. I think it's time I finally sign up for it.
When I was in my 20s I learned a style of Muay boran called “Muay Chaiya”. It was a complete system of self defense and my ajarn told me that the word “Muay” means “tying together” or binding in Thai. Thus the Thai fighting system sees martial art techniques as a combination of techniques bundling together. So to defeat your opponent you needs to untie his/her technical combination by devising or learning ways to disrupt or neutralize their techniques. This is why a top Thai nak muay could always adapt themselves well against fighters of other martial art disciplines.
I used to practice Muay Chaiya while I was studying at Ramkhamhaeng University as well. They had a Thai Weapons' club, in which Muay Chaiya was taught to every member..
My favorite Thai fighter is Buakaw. My favorite strikes in Mua Thai is leg kicks and knees to the body and when you see those strikes KO a fighter it's pretty awesome
Check out Saenchai.. he's unreal.
I think the arts adaptability makes it so dominate - just like you outlined. 🤙
🙏🙏 it incorporates so many elements ! Thanks for tuning in Ed
Can you also do video about leithwei it’s similar to Muay Thai