I’m sure there’s a line of code or two to fix the hitting-the-gate problem. Maybe not so much the battery exploding problem lol Great end to an awesome project!
Very impressive. Seemed like a lot of work. Also, thanks for including the last part, the accidental drilling and fire. You might've prevented someone else from doing something like that. We all do those stupid mistakes sometimes, and it makes it a bit easier to accept when you see that it can happen to anymore. Liked. Subbed.
I drilled a hole in my quads canopy trying to make the hole big enough for a new antenna and caught the MIPI wire going to HD walksnail camera in the bit. Ripped it to shreds. The cables are only like $6 but I can't find the 5.5cm one in US anywhere. Not as bad as the battery thing but I've had similar battery fiascos where I forget a charged pack on charger for 3 days and didn't have trickle on so it was 0v by time I got to it.
a simple addition, a good drone can hover so we have the ultimate control to go up and down and maneuver so much easily without thinking of thrusting up the drone just to move
I have and idea for the motors too! what if you add the magnetic flux path back into the motor. my guess is just some metal strips, maybe one with a curved end to match the profile of the rotor magnets? (thick enough to withstand the g force?) Printing with PETG would also withstand 41% higher temperature, before suffering from flex and deformation (PETG: 85c max vs PLA: 60c max) My best guess, is this would DRAMATICLY increase the motors output efficiency (more power, more torque, etc.), the motors could be downsize as it will make way more torque then, maybe just enough to offset, metal strips, and maybe overall, lower the weight significantly! I'd love to see this tested!
As someone who used to paint a lot, I noticed white titanium oxide paints have the same issue with being brittle. Even using titanium oxide powder to color sculpting clay weakens it considerably
8:00 I can be forgetful like that sometimes. That's why I check the document or record of the project again. In fact, I recheck many things. If I don't recheck something. I think there will be problems with it later.
ASA might've had layer adhesion problems if printed without an enclosure. It prints like ABS. It should be a bit less brittle than standard PLA, but slightly lighter than PLA+.
I really suggest you to split the center piece in multiple pieces. It helps with printing time, optimal print orientation for each part, it's much easier to test for part's fit and tollerances and upgrade them in the future with much less effort and if any of the print fails you have to re-print just a little part instead of a 24 hours plus print
I really hope you continue down this road in some way. I would be very interested in seeing whether you can decrease the size to something more reasonable while keeping the idea of 3D printing everything.
You should half pocket the center body to save on weight, have less print time, and still have a good amount of strength, other than that I really like the arms on the drone, but I do wonder if there’s a way to reduce weight in the motors, you also might be able to resin print some parts for more strength in certain areas, other than that I really like the drone and think a scaled down version would be awesome
as someone who flies FPV, its better to maybe place the vtx a little exposed because most of our drones move which greatly helps cool down the vtx. Better if you can enclose it but leave some more ventilation holes.
Very cool experiment 🙌🏼, I just sent it to my planes' obsessed brother. And I think you should add some legs to the actual rotors so the landings can be softer and the blades won't hit the ground on every landing
Well... As an old and wise man once said, Michael... Sh*t happens. 😬 Either way, there are some 2" quads which fly with 2s batteries that you could 3d print the frame. I don't remember the name right now, but they're pretty small, silent and fun as heck! Anyway, stay safe there with your family! 🖖😊
Has there been any issues around the way you drop the arms into the body? I would have thought as the arms cause lift that it would be better for the body to drop onto the arms rather than the arms drop onto the body?
Dude, I thought the main point of 3D printing it was to make it lighter and stronger. You can make 3D prints lighter by making them hollow or mostly hollow. Also by adding structures inside of your parts instead of more infill on your stress points add micro holes inside your print with low wall count (around 3) modifiers around said micro holes. (A micro hole inside of your prints is a cylindrical negative space about .5mm inside of your print that the slicer juuuust barely picks up and treats it like you need to have walls printed around it essentially making a 3D printed stick inside of your print. Extend that 'stick' just to your internal walls about 2 walls in and you have a WAY stronger infill in that spot. So lower your infill to say 3% ?) Faster print time less filament less weight better faster more responsive quad copter.
That was a big issue I had when adding FPV to my 9 inch quad, I could fly it LOS fine but FPV was just difficult. I can fly acro on a simulator pretty well but stabilised on a larger drone like that is difficult.
Flying through gates line of sight is super difficult - much easier to fly FPV. Something that large will be obvious when it gets close but if you want to be extra safe you can always stand behind some netting. Too bad about the fire, LiPo safety is no joke! Lucky it didn’t cause any other damage!
Unfortunatley you dont live near me , but if you did , i would have begged to try to fly this drone in fpv, in acro mode. It looks way more stable than it should be
Hey man, any luck on the 100 mph tarmo? You inspired me to build my own which has been fun. I’d love to know what changes you have made on the next update video. Also, thanks for putting that model in onshape. Super helpful when I was building mine.
I'd love to see how light you could make this without it shattering itself. be pretty cool to see just how thin some of the beefer plastic bits could be made
cool video can you make an correction of the model from he motors and also the quadcopter what would you optimize and upload it to thingiverse or printables plss (correct me if you already did) and maybe the pcb models and batteries and stuff ;) Ps: you make the best videos
Question! Since you have both FDM and SLA, have you tested custom propellers? I know that others have tried FDM (unsuccessfully so that's probably going to fail) but would SLA offer a better chance at them weighing the same and having enough consistency? I think it would be a cool project to add to this 3D printed quad. edit: typo
Just finished the video. RIP drone but still might be interesting on a "standard" drone! Then if you revive this project 2.0 in the future you can bring those findings along!
Not dangerous to send it fpv if you know how to fpv... need some sim time mydude. But that vtx and camera are probably fine. You can find 12s flight controllers and escs... just get new set and slap em in. Reprint that main frame
This makes me think I can resurrect one that the body was damaged on by making a new drone with a new 3D printed body. Got nothing to lose, someone didn't want to do anything with it so I have the drone batteries controller even the case
For the FPV, if you want to see better, use the DJI FPV unit, or the caddx vista, it can be mounted on any fpv frame (You will need the dji goggles tho)
if you want to keep this project going but are willing for it not to be 100% 3d printed; you could 3d print some molds and make your own carbon fibre parts, like the housing and arms on the drone
People forgot to point but drilling through a chunk of battery is really dangerous. Im happy you are ok. You shouldve included some example What would happen in that time if someone does it again so people can understand better What will actually happen
Зачем такая мощная конструкция?? У тебя лучи моторов такие мощные, а соединение с моторами тонкое. Весь смысл теряется. Проще лучи было заменить на алюминиевые трубки!!
metal-air fuel cells are much better, like iron-air, the metal is much denser of a battery, so most of the fuel cell weight is the iron, not the other stuff, like water and carbon, and plastic 3d printed abs case
It would have been so amazing as well as massively teachable if somehow you had gotten your " fire ", AKA = Thermal Runaway on video. Even though you can find tons of TH-cam vids of idiots causing Li Ion batteries to go into a thermal runaway scenario on purpose with things like: hammers, nails, screws, axe, gun, torch, hard-shorting it. There are a very few that show the dangers of Lithium in a safe controlled way. But the fact that a very intelligent likeable dude like yourself did in fact make a mistake.... Not a un-common one either, I'm sure a lot played into it none of that matters because we all make mistakes it's gonna happen, we are human. Human does mistake often, repeat... What is very impressive is even though you got caught off your guard and a mistake happened, that mistake from its inception had a very tinny opportunity to ever cause any long lasting harm, loss, pain, grief... because you were prepared with not the most beneficial damage control you at least had some kind of fire extinguisher showing you have a safety mindset .. Honestly that's what really matters more when unexpected shit hits the fan is someone in the room that can be calm, cool, and just take care of the danger because they had already put themselves in that situation mentally and figured out what they would do asap. I do recommend anyone pick up a foaming Lithium Ion Fire extinguisher, the kind that creates a layer of oxygen around the battery. We've found this is the most effective way to prevent the never ending time someone has to keep watch on a large Lith IoN battery fire because they just keep re igniting over and over for hours and days ... Tesla battery fires can take up to 24 hours to fully extinguish. In some cases, the fires can reignite after being towed, even two to three days later, nightmare fuel... Tesla's emergency response guide for the Model X states that battery fires can take up to 24 hours to fully cool, In one instance, a Tesla battery burned for four hours and required 30,000 gallons of water to extinguish. Got towed only to re-ignite 72hrs later causing 35 vehicles in this particular holding yard to go up in flames and be destroyed.
This can’t be the end. You’re not done until it powerloops something 😂
Tru!
Yea something like a skyscraper
I’m sure there’s a line of code or two to fix the hitting-the-gate problem. Maybe not so much the battery exploding problem lol
Great end to an awesome project!
If
Drilling into battery
Don't.
_A Man of My Own Heart!_
...looks at gap
........looks at quad
_"welcome to EdgeTX"_
drilled into a battery... what an OOPS. How do you do that.
”I should have like 2” of clearance, yeah np. OHSHITOHSHIT WRONG DESIGN!!”
@@bravefastrabbit770 haha sounds right
God, I love this project so much. I couldn't believe when you'd gotten the 3D printed motors to run. #MindBlown
OMG you are very fortunate that you were drilling it outside. What a way to go out!
Very impressive. Seemed like a lot of work. Also, thanks for including the last part, the accidental drilling and fire. You might've prevented someone else from doing something like that. We all do those stupid mistakes sometimes, and it makes it a bit easier to accept when you see that it can happen to anymore. Liked. Subbed.
This is an amazing video about the wood chipper/lawnmower combo you created!
Just subscribed. No one makes something as cool as this on TH-cam. Great job! 💪 True inspiration
all the cool kids are still flying fpv
Great seeing you at open sause! (I was the guy with the high speed 3D printer)
he took "ended badly" to a new level
I drilled a hole in my quads canopy trying to make the hole big enough for a new antenna and caught the MIPI wire going to HD walksnail camera in the bit. Ripped it to shreds. The cables are only like $6 but I can't find the 5.5cm one in US anywhere. Not as bad as the battery thing but I've had similar battery fiascos where I forget a charged pack on charger for 3 days and didn't have trickle on so it was 0v by time I got to it.
Love you Michael, your videos are fire
literally
I had no idea you had a channel. Just saw it show up in my recommended. Neat videos!
a simple addition, a good drone can hover so we have the ultimate control to go up and down and maneuver so much easily without thinking of thrusting up the drone just to move
I have and idea for the motors too! what if you add the magnetic flux path back into the motor. my guess is just some metal strips, maybe one with a curved end to match the profile of the rotor magnets? (thick enough to withstand the g force?)
Printing with PETG would also withstand 41% higher temperature, before suffering from flex and deformation (PETG: 85c max vs PLA: 60c max)
My best guess, is this would DRAMATICLY increase the motors output efficiency (more power, more torque, etc.), the motors could be downsize as it will make way more torque then, maybe just enough to offset, metal strips, and maybe overall, lower the weight significantly! I'd love to see this tested!
In regard to your arm cracking - I've HEARD that white filaments can be more brittle due to the high amount of titanium dioxide used for the colorant.
As someone who used to paint a lot, I noticed white titanium oxide paints have the same issue with being brittle. Even using titanium oxide powder to color sculpting clay weakens it considerably
3D printed motors, already impressive. Turn it into a quad, already insane. FPV the dang thing, lol. Mad man!
8:00 I can be forgetful like that sometimes. That's why I check the document or record of the project again. In fact, I recheck many things. If I don't recheck something. I think there will be problems with it later.
ASA might've had layer adhesion problems if printed without an enclosure. It prints like ABS.
It should be a bit less brittle than standard PLA, but slightly lighter than PLA+.
I really suggest you to split the center piece in multiple pieces. It helps with printing time, optimal print orientation for each part, it's much easier to test for part's fit and tollerances and upgrade them in the future with much less effort and if any of the print fails you have to re-print just a little part instead of a 24 hours plus print
Try turning it on and off. Heard that works.
I really hope you continue down this road in some way. I would be very interested in seeing whether you can decrease the size to something more reasonable while keeping the idea of 3D printing everything.
Cheers, man. Try for version #2 (or the next number).
You should half pocket the center body to save on weight, have less print time, and still have a good amount of strength, other than that I really like the arms on the drone, but I do wonder if there’s a way to reduce weight in the motors, you also might be able to resin print some parts for more strength in certain areas, other than that I really like the drone and think a scaled down version would be awesome
Oh wow, drilling into a LiPo is… bold! 😅 Thanks for including that footage!
as someone who flies FPV, its better to maybe place the vtx a little exposed because most of our drones move which greatly helps cool down the vtx. Better if you can enclose it but leave some more ventilation holes.
Drilling into the battery is an engineer’s special finisher move!
Very cool experiment 🙌🏼, I just sent it to my planes' obsessed brother.
And I think you should add some legs to the actual rotors so the landings can be softer and the blades won't hit the ground on every landing
Well... As an old and wise man once said, Michael... Sh*t happens. 😬
Either way, there are some 2" quads which fly with 2s batteries that you could 3d print the frame. I don't remember the name right now, but they're pretty small, silent and fun as heck!
Anyway, stay safe there with your family! 🖖😊
There are lots of 3D printed drone designs, mainly for smaller drones, Prusa themselves even made one years ago now.
Has there been any issues around the way you drop the arms into the body? I would have thought as the arms cause lift that it would be better for the body to drop onto the arms rather than the arms drop onto the body?
Did I just get called a cool kid? Heck yeah! Awesome engineering project!
Dude, I thought the main point of 3D printing it was to make it lighter and stronger. You can make 3D prints lighter by making them hollow or mostly hollow. Also by adding structures inside of your parts instead of more infill on your stress points add micro holes inside your print with low wall count (around 3) modifiers around said micro holes. (A micro hole inside of your prints is a cylindrical negative space about .5mm inside of your print that the slicer juuuust barely picks up and treats it like you need to have walls printed around it essentially making a 3D printed stick inside of your print. Extend that 'stick' just to your internal walls about 2 walls in and you have a WAY stronger infill in that spot. So lower your infill to say 3% ?) Faster print time less filament less weight better faster more responsive quad copter.
Now smaller and more optimized!
Been waiting for this!
That was a big issue I had when adding FPV to my 9 inch quad, I could fly it LOS fine but FPV was just difficult. I can fly acro on a simulator pretty well but stabilised on a larger drone like that is difficult.
Awesome video but what do you mean FPV was the thing the cool kids did 5 years ago? FPV is still going strong!
Needs a walksnail vtx and vrx or DJI 03. You'll have no issues seeing those gates
Why is it so heavy? And why does it need to be so overbuilt? It should be bare bones so its lighter and if it's lighter it won't have to be as strong.
since youre not looking to fly long range (yet) get a dji HD runcam. your flight video feed will be much better looking.
Flying through gates line of sight is super difficult - much easier to fly FPV. Something that large will be obvious when it gets close but if you want to be extra safe you can always stand behind some netting. Too bad about the fire, LiPo safety is no joke! Lucky it didn’t cause any other damage!
Unfortunatley you dont live near me , but if you did , i would have begged to try to fly this drone in fpv, in acro mode.
It looks way more stable than it should be
Did you do Generative Design in OnShape? or Fusion?
I said to myself "that's not very safe" 3 times during this video. and then you drilled into a 6s. feels bad man. Thanks for sharing with us.
I would love to see a blackbox recording of this drone!
Yeah that would really interesting data
Hey man, any luck on the 100 mph tarmo? You inspired me to build my own which has been fun. I’d love to know what changes you have made on the next update video. Also, thanks for putting that model in onshape. Super helpful when I was building mine.
You are suppose to go through the target, not “through” the target! Lol, great video!!! Sorry about the end. Thanks for sharing though.
Rebuild the frame and keep it as a wallpiece man, this thing deserves to be mounted as its eol.
I'd love to see how light you could make this without it shattering itself. be pretty cool to see just how thin some of the beefer plastic bits could be made
Ugh... That's the kind of mistake that just kills you inside. I would lose sleep for days after that.
cool video can you make an correction of the model from he motors and also the quadcopter what would you optimize and upload it to thingiverse or printables plss (correct me if you already did)
and maybe the pcb models and batteries and stuff ;)
Ps: you make the best videos
Please make smaller motors, It would look awesome and prolly be more faster. I think. Using the same Halbach Brushless Motors.
Question! Since you have both FDM and SLA, have you tested custom propellers? I know that others have tried FDM (unsuccessfully so that's probably going to fail) but would SLA offer a better chance at them weighing the same and having enough consistency?
I think it would be a cool project to add to this 3D printed quad.
edit: typo
Just finished the video. RIP drone but still might be interesting on a "standard" drone! Then if you revive this project 2.0 in the future you can bring those findings along!
yoo finally a new episode
Are the details on this flight controlller? Where was this flight festival? @mike
Can I get the files to print it please.
Use a lost PLA method to make aluminum arms.
BEAST
Awesome.
Are you meet Tailhavy Production at the flightfest?
MAke an other pls and send it to quadmovr :P
What kind of printer was used for that 3d plane!?!??!?!?!?!
Is the drone registered with the FAA?
i was about to say next test should be carry capacity but not anymore
Not dangerous to send it fpv if you know how to fpv... need some sim time mydude. But that vtx and camera are probably fine. You can find 12s flight controllers and escs... just get new set and slap em in. Reprint that main frame
damn what a shame. i hope the drone will make a comeback and I hope the comeback will be with toroidal propellers.
Drilling into a lipo 😂
Fix it and go. Respect
I wonder if it would behave better if you used the lightweight pla the guys at FliteTest use
Wont hold when the motor pulls it up
Ever considered making a long range flight drone powered by gps and 4g
Heat stakes and heat set inserts are two completely different things. "Heat stake inserts" aren't a thing. ;)
This makes me think I can resurrect one that the body was damaged on by making a new drone with a new 3D printed body. Got nothing to lose, someone didn't want to do anything with it so I have the drone batteries controller even the case
👍 Nice😎😎😎
Holy leg day batman!!!?!?!
Battery go Brrr
For the FPV, if you want to see better, use the DJI FPV unit, or the caddx vista, it can be mounted on any fpv frame (You will need the dji goggles tho)
5yrs? More like 10. It’s been around for a bit.
it would be cool to see guys from rotor riot rip this thing and see what they think
Recs for little cameras like that?
Trying making a drone which can drop bomb
I missy firs f450 quad ,☹️☹️
Give it a DJI FPV and you should have zero quality issues
if you want to keep this project going but are willing for it not to be 100% 3d printed; you could 3d print some molds and make your own carbon fibre parts, like the housing and arms on the drone
Nice
Hi
Great work💯 need some help with building The motor and get The parts!! Please help me.
Best Torben🇩🇰
People forgot to point but drilling through a chunk of battery is really dangerous. Im happy you are ok. You shouldve included some example What would happen in that time if someone does it again so people can understand better What will actually happen
Bro you meet Peter stripol
Do a blimp
Literally
like how u had the insta360 go2 placed for the shot of u hitting the foam. way to clickbait
YES YOU UPLOADED BTW YOU ARE MY FAV YTER EVERY SUBSCRIBE YOU ARE THE COOLEST YTER ON TH-cam
Go bigger . CAR SIZE.
Зачем такая мощная конструкция?? У тебя лучи моторов такие мощные, а соединение с моторами тонкое. Весь смысл теряется. Проще лучи было заменить на алюминиевые трубки!!
😂😂😂😂😂
Can you give my comment a heart ♥
or just bolts and nuts
deez nuts
of course you can
are you on the line
metal-air fuel cells are much better, like iron-air, the metal is much denser of a battery, so most of the fuel cell weight is the iron, not the other stuff, like water and carbon, and plastic 3d printed abs case
or just do lego from pieces large drone or anything
Bruh. Takes a lot of negligence to drill into a battery...
Be happy you're alive and you weren't inside 🤔
It would have been so amazing as well as massively teachable if somehow you had gotten your " fire ", AKA = Thermal Runaway on video. Even though you can find tons of TH-cam vids of idiots causing Li Ion batteries to go into a thermal runaway scenario on purpose with things like: hammers, nails, screws, axe, gun, torch, hard-shorting it. There are a very few that show the dangers of Lithium in a safe controlled way. But the fact that a very intelligent likeable dude like yourself did in fact make a mistake.... Not a un-common one either, I'm sure a lot played into it none of that matters because we all make mistakes it's gonna happen, we are human. Human does mistake often, repeat... What is very impressive is even though you got caught off your guard and a mistake happened, that mistake from its inception had a very tinny opportunity to ever cause any long lasting harm, loss, pain, grief... because you were prepared with not the most beneficial damage control you at least had some kind of fire extinguisher showing you have a safety mindset .. Honestly that's what really matters more when unexpected shit hits the fan is someone in the room that can be calm, cool, and just take care of the danger because they had already put themselves in that situation mentally and figured out what they would do asap. I do recommend anyone pick up a foaming Lithium Ion Fire extinguisher, the kind that creates a layer of oxygen around the battery. We've found this is the most effective way to prevent the never ending time someone has to keep watch on a large Lith IoN battery fire because they just keep re igniting over and over for hours and days ... Tesla battery fires can take up to 24 hours to fully extinguish.
In some cases, the fires can reignite after being towed, even two to three days later, nightmare fuel... Tesla's emergency response guide for the Model X states that battery fires can take up to 24 hours to fully cool, In one instance, a Tesla battery burned for four hours and required 30,000 gallons of water to extinguish. Got towed only to re-ignite 72hrs later causing 35 vehicles in this particular holding yard to go up in flames and be destroyed.