Sure. 1988/89 SCV: Angel of Music, Music of the Night by Andrew Lloyd Weber 1993 Star of Indiana: Adagio Piano Concerto No. 2 by Bartok, Dance of Vengeance by Samuel Barber 2012 Crossmen: Earth Song by Michael Jackson 2014 Bluecoats: Uffe’s Workshop, Platinum Rows by Tyondai Braxton
@@TNG173 thats not what im referring too. Blue coats show. The average person in the stand doesnt know. However, Everyone knows the classic SCV show. Why? Cause its identifiable. When DCI was DCI you had music in most cases that stuck with you. For the longest time now these arrangers write shit that have u scratching your head. People clap cause they have to, not because anything drives them too Its Band corps now. DCI has been long gone. The best thing to happen to this activity was covid. You didnt see it
Aaron Laughlin It’s not tho, they recorded the Corp playing the chord and bent the pitch. So your right in a sense that it was computer effects, but they also bent themselves in a way like you said so time to shit urself buddi 😬
@J Eric Vaughn Agreed, that effect gets cornier every time I hear it. Everything about that show is impressive, and then it ends on a cheapo keyboard effect.
which reminds me, seen Django Unchained? it features an old Italian song which has pitch bends in the strings, big time, called "I Giorni Dell’ira." It is also featured to excellent effect in this crazy short, about a man who put up his own sign on a major LA freeway interchange, which remained in place for years. it's amazing, check it out th-cam.com/video/Clgl63CWOkM/w-d-xo.html
8:45 look at the third trumpet from the front of the form. That’s why the cross men didn’t place higher. Not just that, but it’s indicative of the fact that the cross men just aren’t as clean as the other top corps. Yes this hit and soloist were absolutely fantastic, but you can’t deny dirty drill
I remember in 2014 going to see the DCI premiere in the theatres that spring and watching the Bluecoats. When that pitch bend happened that was a first time in my 25 years of DCI experience up until that time when I was like WTH!!!! I was in shock. I really was!!! I was following them from that time forward because I knew they were going to make a run for the Chip. I really felt that they were robbed, but I think it taught them a lesson on what it took to win.
I'm sorry, but I don't see how you could feel they were robbed that year. The Blue Devils had what I STILL consider to be their best show of all time that year. To each their own though.
I was a member of the 1993 Bluecoats and was always impressed by the Star of Indiana that year. What a corps to compete against they made us better because they were just so damned good.
Marching Pioneer '93 was my first year in DCI/DCM, so likewise, I saw a lot of Star that Summer. That show was a paradigm shift for what was to come in DCI. But as they say, whoever leads the charge always gets bloody. Star got a lot of love and a lot of hate for that show from other corps, judges and fans. "Color guards can't just use sticks... Drumlines can't play their feature at 'mf' volume... You can just stand there and move your arms and legs and call that 'drill'..." Love it or hate it, that show was way ahead of its time and was performed at an extremely high level.
breathtaking...all of this is entirely subjective at the end of the day, but the Bluecoats closer of Tilt is probably the most innovative thing to happen in drumcorps up until that time. aside from the creative use of the pitch bend, the integrated drill going in and out of that last set is just beyond exciting. that truly is a breath-taking moment.
1991 Star is near perfection. Those mellophone runs are clean as a whistle. And there’s this Zingali masterpiece of double cross drill at the end that was as breathtaking as anything I’ve seen here
Star fans want to paint this picture of a pack of brilliant rebels in Star 93. But design wise, this show fell short. Star's '93 show was meaningless, thematically. Why perform the classic Greek tragedy Medea? The woman kills her children as an act of revenge against her husband. Is that suited to these performers? Is the juvenile nose thumbing at the judges' scores from the previous year an appropriate thing to teach young performers about the world and how to handle criticism? No, of course not. True performing artists believe in a broader message and aren't swayed by critics. AUTHENTICITY - ZERO Is the medium of the marching arts the right medium for dramatizing this Greek tragedy? Are marital abuse and infanticide great subject matters for kids who are under 21? Of course not. It's a completely inauthentic choice. This Greek tragedy had nothing to do with these performers other than their being brainwashed into believing that they should kill their baby "Star" to exact revenge on the previous year's judges, and then quit the activity. Other than that, the subject matter has little or nothing to do with these performers. COHESION If you're telling the story of Medea, or alluding to it, you have some obligation to the depict the story visually, or at least allude to some aspect of the play. Throw the audience a bone and let them know what the dramatic action is. Show us how two sticks relate to the story, for example. Show us how the changes in mood and the progression of the story are supported by the equipment, choreography and drill sets. Show us how the dramatic action changes by the end of the show. How is the angry ending different from the angry beginning? What's the symbolism in the flag design? How are the drill sets evocative of the Greek tragedy and how it resolves? EMOTION Anger is an essential emotion in any drama, Greek or contenporary . But twelve minutes of anger is a a cry for help. Worse no one wants to pay $40 to see twelve minutes of performer's sour grapes over unfair scoring from the previous year. That's puerile. Instead of portraying the emotional range of the original story , this disgruntled design team created twelve minutes of cacophonous rage. If you're going to perform a Greek tragedy in twelve minutes, which is never recommended, you must refer to some aspect of the drama-- the lead character, allude to symbolism using the elements in the show-- color, costume, dance, shape, dialogue (music), pattern, shape and line. In this show, we see no variance in mood or emotion. It's the same rage throughout. Drum corps audiences love to stand up and cheer. It's an upbeat, youthful activity for young adults-- what to play next? The theme from Schindler's List? Oy vey, too heavy! UNIVERSALITY Medea is the darkest of dark Greek tragedy about a woman taking a stand against male domination. That's a universal message that could resonate with audiences, but you must start with the likeability of the lead character, and her menacing husband. The designers are obligated in some way to allude to or evoke first the innocence, the abuse and then the angry retribution. But these designers had difficulty visually conveying this story, or any kind of pattern that illuminated the concept of unfair treatment and the ultimate revenge. Instead, the audience just watches the show scratching their collective had asking "When do I clap? When she kills the kids?" UNIQUENESS Sure, it was unusual for a corps to play twelve minutes of tedious anger, and to do a minimalist approach to a marching arts show, removing color, range of emotion, range of tone and dressing all in black. But, let's be honest. The black leotards are reminiscent of 1960's black box theaters where abstract premises looked so fresh. (30 years later, to still be wearing black leotards in an abstract, minimalist production, not so original.) . The only reason why this show should be called a "game changer" is maybe because it's the first time in DCI history that an entire show was designed to be an angry nose-thumbing at the DCI judges and their score from the previous year-- a completely immature and laughable venture. Why not focus on the dramatic action of this incredibly powerful Greek tragedy, instead?
@@jesuspectre9883 We agree for once! I don't get this revisionist history with Star 91, 92, or 93. Their shows were boring visually and aurally. They were too esoteric.
@@jesuspectre9883 You are entitled to your opinion. Star represented the last time in DCI history when people played truly great music and marched drill to create moving abstract art. Still the most influential corps in history.
88, 89 SCV is the last time a corps kept the essence of the same show from year to year to get it right (that I know of). This used to be fairly common practice, changing perhaps one or two songs from one year to the next. Still one of the finest shows ever to appear on a football field.
Listen to the sound impact and the response of the audience from years ago. There are always some exceptional performances. The difference between now and 35-40 years ago is the impact the performance has on the audience. In 2017, I took my daughter to her 1st DCI competition, and my 1st since the late '80's. After many well performed, but ho-hum shows,I told her to get ready for 3 standing ovation performances from the final 6 corps. We were both sorely disappointed. Don't substitute fluff for substance, If you can add visuals without taking away from the actual Drum and Bugle Corp performance, fantastic. But audience response tells the story. Today's players are extremely talented people. Absolutely no disrespect meant towards them. The shows need to be redirected back to the audience, not the judges The judges need to accept that and base GE on audience perception, not theirs What is better for the long term growth of DCI, attracting a dozen more possible judges for the next year or 1,000 more fans loving the impact of the shows?
YUP! Even as a new-generation DCI fan, I agree wholeheartedly. I'm tired of seeing the top 5 consist of the "best" (*COUGH* BD *COUGH*), albeit I have to make an exception for the Bluecoats, but even then, I'm not always happy with what they bring. As I said on another comment, despite being a newer World Class corps and not the top 12, Music City got a LOT of cheers and standing ovations this last season, when I was at the "home" show in Murfreesboro. Even during the performance. I attribute that mainly to being a show that everyone could love, even those that aren't into other corps except their one and only. MCDC is now getting a larger fanbase, mostly with moving from Open Class to World Class for the 2018 season, but also because their shows are enjoyable.
In your defense, 2017 in my opinion was a very awkward year for DCI, no show really blew me away either... but damn if 2018 didn't come back with vengeance. SVC, Crown, Bluecoats, Blue Knights, just blew me away with extremely high caliber shows.
Perfectly said. A couple years ago I sat down to a show that left me bewildered. I saw 3823 contras ( uggg tubas) walk out. I said THIS is going to sound grand! I was solely disappointed in the lack of guts, risks and emotions that were front and center in the old days.
+Theodore Greanias Star was the only corporate-sponsored corps in DCI history... I'm pretty sure they were FINE financially. They just made the move to Brass Theatre, which then became BLAST!
Star's leadership had put a lot of money into DCI. They had a falling out with the way DCI was heading as well as they felt the judges were not fair to Star. So they moved to the brass theatre and broke ties with DCI.
Theodore Greanias Bill Cook actually funded them with 1 million dollars when they started so I'd say they were fine financially. They left DCI because they wanted shows longer than 14 minutes, and they moved to brass theatre
I never saw Crossmen 2012. This was pretty awesome. It was so great to see. Thanks for sharing. I have a friend who's son may be in that era and I'll forward. Thanks!
The double SCV whammy. Mad respects paid. The 1989 performance is undeniable but the 1988 rendition is actually my favorite version - although the 1989 finale takes the cake. No greater moment took place between that and Phantom’s 2008 finale IMO
1049berkeley: 93 Star's design was ground breaking, but 93 Cadets had a far more demanding and better executed show at finals. Star's GE and music were killer, but their marching execution was somewhat poor at finals. Repeated spacing and form errors at finals, especially in Medea. Whereas Cadets ran 200 + bpm nearly their entire show (not just the last 3 minutes) and were clean, clean, clean beginning to end. One of the best marching performances ever, and one of the hardest drills ever. Cadets' brass was nearly as good as Star and Cadets' percussion and guard were better (Cadets' percussion got dumped at finals...won quarters and semis but somehow lost finals?). To this day 93 Cadets is one of the most demanding and best executed shows ever to hit the field. And that takes nothing away from Star. Star 93 is and always will be legendary. But they were properly in 2nd place at finals, and were lucky to have only been .01 behind. That's the problem with judging art...scores don't always equate to impact on the activity. For example, 1980 SCV and 2014 Bluecoats.
Good list, but I don't understand why you would include two nearly identical performances of Phantom. That seems completely superfluous. Yes they were good performances, but there are so many other great moments that deserve a spot on this list.
I've heard years of feuding between which show was better; I included both closers so they were easy to compare. I have other videos with other shows; this isn't my only one. But I understand your point.
IMHO, the build-up to, and the angled company front (0:40) from '88 SCV still gives me chills, and it's 2018 !!! No offense Madison, I thought SCV was better(just an opinion) Bluecoats, "Tilt"... A groundbreaking concept, awesome modern show. So much emotion in this show and they DEFINITELY peaked at the right moment !!! (IMHO, they should've won) I can't stop watching the ending... (11:54) very cool. BLOOOOOOOOOO !!! (FMM '77-'87 Cavaliers-Baritone/Tuba player)
George McCormick no offense taken but as someone who was in the audience that night- Madison took it with their power and Uber clean footwork. There was no question to us. 😊 but I loved SCV too.
I love how SCV was like "phantom of the opera deserved to win first place last year, so lets do it again and rob phantom regiment of their best show ever!" lmao gets me everytime
I think someone asked the judges who do you award first place? And they said Phantom, and some idiot thought they meant Phantom of the Opera. But by then it was too late. That’s my theory.
Phantom Regiment- 2012(I think) Juliet. Closer was amazing! They took an extremely well crafted piece of music and put so much power to it. One of my favorite closers aside Tilt
Bugles deliver on the hits. It’s true. I miss those hits, but anything with fast notes gets pitchy and muddy. That being said, I don’t know why we haven’t seen a group use them for a portion of the show. Lord knows they have worked out how to switch every damn person to trombone seamlessly in the drill.
ThatsNOTaTHING i’m pretty sure it’s a timbre thing especially if only part of the ensemble is using them also where can you even get those puppies nowadays
I wholeheartedly agree with four of those pics only one I don't agree with is the Crossmen. There were so many other moments that could have been chosen for that slot such as Blue Devils 1996 or Phantom Regiment 1996 as examples. That is the beauty of drum corps is what is breathtaking to you may mean something vastly different to somebody else but there are definitive moments that everybody just kind of stops and looks at one another and understands there watching greatness. Those moments have unfortunately in my opinion become fewer and fewer as the years progressed you want electronics have been introduced into the sport but absolutely for me one of those moments was the end of that Bluecoats show. I remember the first time that I saw that show and I was just blown away at the quality of musicianship and more so utter command that the kids had of that show.
I thank you for your comment. I simply appreciate Crossmen 2012 as a trumpet player myself, and the outstanding range by the soloist. I made a second moments video, and had seriously considered 96' Phantom, but ended up not including it just yet. And I wholeheartedly agree, Tilt's closer was breathtaking. As a younger DCI fan and marcher, I have been exposed to more modern DCI, hence my appreciation for the newer shows.
+Theodore Greanias I don't have any issues was using Crossmen... Actually marched for them in 99. great organization and provided me with some of the best experience of my life.
8:16. I've literally never seen Star of IN. I remember that the Cadets did this music not long ago, for a closer....beautiful drill. What year is this?
Does anyone know the name of the band at 8:31 and indeed what is the name of the song they are playing? I can't get that song out of my head. Nevermind I found it-------Crossmen 2012 Fragile
12:02 *breathes in* AH, 12:12 *breathes in AGANE* AHH, 12:22 *inhales inhumane amount of air* AHHH, 12:37 *dies of breathing too hard, then reawakens* AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH
I'm sorry but throughout the 80's,90's the Cadets,Cavaliers,Blue Devils,Vanguard and Star, produced some of the best performances EVER!. The modern Drum Corp does NOT deliver what those guy's did back in the day.
@@richardseyboldt3960 Show me multiple standing ovations throughout sets in any of those shows. Show me people going absolutely crazy during any of those shows. The sound of today's corps just don't do it because the band instruments don't have the extra punch, that X factor.
Speaking as an individual who marched 2012 Crossmen, the opener and breaking back into finals were the only reasons why its remembered so profoundly. The fact that our screamer (and my section leader) could be heard over the drum corps without a mic was pretty insane considering how every soloist these days has a mic. The rest of the show is pretty meh in comparison though haha. It was a great rookie year all said and done.
I think it's because in '88 they were so close to winning they felt if they tweaked it for '89 it'd be an easy win, and turns out they were right. I mean Phantom Regiment has done Spartacus three times, although not in a row
It was common for corps to do a show or elements of a show multiple years in a row in the 70's and 80's. Especially in the 70's. Cavies duppd much of 89's show into 90's.
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So. Can anyone name one song? What garbage
Sure. 1988/89 SCV: Angel of Music, Music of the Night by Andrew Lloyd Weber
1993 Star of Indiana: Adagio Piano Concerto No. 2 by Bartok, Dance of Vengeance by Samuel Barber
2012 Crossmen: Earth Song by Michael Jackson
2014 Bluecoats: Uffe’s Workshop, Platinum Rows by Tyondai Braxton
Also, pin of shame
@@TNG173 thats not what im referring too. Blue coats show. The average person in the stand doesnt know. However, Everyone knows the classic SCV show. Why? Cause its identifiable. When DCI was DCI you had music in most cases that stuck with you. For the longest time now these arrangers write shit that have u scratching your head. People clap cause they have to, not because anything drives them too
Its Band corps now. DCI has been long gone. The best thing to happen to this activity was covid. You didnt see it
@@Mrtellitlikeitis bro what you mean? I've never heard these songs before but they sound amazing
@@Mrtellitlikeitis shut the fuck uppppp you sound so pretentious. seriously.
0:11 this nigga dabbed 28 years before it was popular, props to this man
my mans
Blue Coats "Tilt" still giving me goosebumps in 2018
Bluecoats "Tilt" still giv es me goosebumps in 2019
@@MrPaulie1340 Bluecoats "Tilt" will give me goosebumps until 3019
What was Tilt about?
Hell ya
@@jesuspectre9883 nothing really but it slaps
The pitch bend is still the coolest thing I've ever seen though.
Logan Benoist And the drill right after. Whew.
Logan Benoist it’s literally just a computer effect tho. Now if the corps actually bent that themselves I’d shit myself
Aaron Laughlin It’s not tho, they recorded the Corp playing the chord and bent the pitch. So your right in a sense that it was computer effects, but they also bent themselves in a way like you said so time to shit urself buddi 😬
@J Eric Vaughn Agreed, that effect gets cornier every time I hear it. Everything about that show is impressive, and then it ends on a cheapo keyboard effect.
which reminds me, seen Django Unchained? it features an old Italian song which has pitch bends in the strings, big time, called "I Giorni Dell’ira." It is also featured to excellent effect in this crazy short, about a man who put up his own sign on a major LA freeway interchange, which remained in place for years. it's amazing, check it out th-cam.com/video/Clgl63CWOkM/w-d-xo.html
If the Crossmen were wearing the BLue Devils uniform, this same show would have placed 8 spots higher.
Soprano soloist from 2012 crossmen sounds like the 2000 lead solo guy for blue devils..
Spot on sir
8:45 look at the third trumpet from the front of the form. That’s why the cross men didn’t place higher. Not just that, but it’s indicative of the fact that the cross men just aren’t as clean as the other top corps. Yes this hit and soloist were absolutely fantastic, but you can’t deny dirty drill
LEGIT
Or if they had a better music score. But that's none of my business
To say that Star "folded," is to say that Obi Wan "died."
I remember in 2014 going to see the DCI premiere in the theatres that spring and watching the Bluecoats. When that pitch bend happened that was a first time in my 25 years of DCI experience up until that time when I was like WTH!!!! I was in shock. I really was!!! I was following them from that time forward because I knew they were going to make a run for the Chip. I really felt that they were robbed, but I think it taught them a lesson on what it took to win.
I'm sorry, but I don't see how you could feel they were robbed that year. The Blue Devils had what I STILL consider to be their best show of all time that year. To each their own though.
I was a member of the 1993 Bluecoats and was always impressed by the Star of Indiana that year. What a corps to compete against they made us better because they were just so damned good.
Marching Pioneer '93 was my first year in DCI/DCM, so likewise, I saw a lot of Star that Summer. That show was a paradigm shift for what was to come in DCI. But as they say, whoever leads the charge always gets bloody. Star got a lot of love and a lot of hate for that show from other corps, judges and fans. "Color guards can't just use sticks... Drumlines can't play their feature at 'mf' volume... You can just stand there and move your arms and legs and call that 'drill'..." Love it or hate it, that show was way ahead of its time and was performed at an extremely high level.
breathtaking...all of this is entirely subjective at the end of the day, but the Bluecoats closer of Tilt is probably the most innovative thing to happen in drumcorps up until that time. aside from the creative use of the pitch bend, the integrated drill going in and out of that last set is just beyond exciting. that truly is a breath-taking moment.
luke snell have you watched any of GZ drills??
agree. the pitch bend was a game-changer and made you really say "WTF did I just experience?" absolute goose bump stuff.
@@walshnormandy1605 didn't even pitch to the chord they played, kinda "meh" to me to be honest.
Oh stop
I remember all this, phantom of the opera was amazing
1991 Star is near perfection. Those mellophone runs are clean as a whistle. And there’s this Zingali masterpiece of double cross drill at the end that was as breathtaking as anything I’ve seen here
The end of tilts is one of my all time favorite closing segments
The ending of tilt is the most iconic dci moment ever, arguably at least.
Part of me says NO. And part of me says yes, you're right, the moment DCI died.
It has since been dethroned by the mello sustain, SCV 2018.
star '91
93 Star had the last laugh. 2nd in 93 but 1st through the lens of history
Exactly lol. My friend, who marched 3 years, thought Star finished 1st that year. He was shocked when I told him they got 2nd
Star fans want to paint this picture of a pack of brilliant rebels in Star 93. But design wise, this show fell short. Star's '93 show was meaningless, thematically. Why perform the classic Greek tragedy Medea? The woman kills her children as an act of revenge against her husband. Is that suited to these performers? Is the juvenile nose thumbing at the judges' scores from the previous year an appropriate thing to teach young performers about the world and how to handle criticism? No, of course not. True performing artists believe in a broader message and aren't swayed by critics.
AUTHENTICITY - ZERO
Is the medium of the marching arts the right medium for dramatizing this Greek tragedy? Are marital abuse and infanticide great subject matters for kids who are under 21? Of course not. It's a completely inauthentic choice. This Greek tragedy had nothing to do with these performers other than their being brainwashed into believing that they should kill their baby "Star" to exact revenge on the previous year's judges, and then quit the activity. Other than that, the subject matter has little or nothing to do with these performers.
COHESION
If you're telling the story of Medea, or alluding to it, you have some obligation to the depict the story visually, or at least allude to some aspect of the play. Throw the audience a bone and let them know what the dramatic action is. Show us how two sticks relate to the story, for example. Show us how the changes in mood and the progression of the story are supported by the equipment, choreography and drill sets. Show us how the dramatic action changes by the end of the show. How is the angry ending different from the angry beginning? What's the symbolism in the flag design? How are the drill sets evocative of the Greek tragedy and how it resolves?
EMOTION
Anger is an essential emotion in any drama, Greek or contenporary . But twelve minutes of anger is a a cry for help. Worse no one wants to pay $40 to see twelve minutes of performer's sour grapes over unfair scoring from the previous year. That's puerile.
Instead of portraying the emotional range of the original story , this disgruntled design team created twelve minutes of cacophonous rage. If you're going to perform a Greek tragedy in twelve minutes, which is never recommended, you must refer to some aspect of the drama-- the lead character, allude to symbolism using the elements in the show-- color, costume, dance, shape, dialogue (music), pattern, shape and line. In this show, we see no variance in mood or emotion. It's the same rage throughout. Drum corps audiences love to stand up and cheer. It's an upbeat, youthful activity for young adults-- what to play next? The theme from Schindler's List? Oy vey, too heavy!
UNIVERSALITY
Medea is the darkest of dark Greek tragedy about a woman taking a stand against male domination. That's a universal message that could resonate with audiences, but you must start with the likeability of the lead character, and her menacing husband. The designers are obligated in some way to allude to or evoke first the innocence, the abuse and then the angry retribution. But these designers had difficulty visually conveying this story, or any kind of pattern that illuminated the concept of unfair treatment and the ultimate revenge. Instead, the audience just watches the show scratching their collective had asking "When do I clap? When she kills the kids?"
UNIQUENESS
Sure, it was unusual for a corps to play twelve minutes of tedious anger, and to do a minimalist approach to a marching arts show, removing color, range of emotion, range of tone and dressing all in black. But, let's be honest. The black leotards are reminiscent of 1960's black box theaters where abstract premises looked so fresh. (30 years later, to still be wearing black leotards in an abstract, minimalist production, not so original.) .
The only reason why this show should be called a "game changer" is maybe because it's the first time in DCI history that an entire show was designed to be an angry nose-thumbing at the DCI judges and their score from the previous year-- a completely immature and laughable venture. Why not focus on the dramatic action of this incredibly powerful Greek tragedy, instead?
Jesu Spectre sad boi
@@jesuspectre9883 We agree for once! I don't get this revisionist history with Star 91, 92, or 93. Their shows were boring visually and aurally. They were too esoteric.
@@jesuspectre9883 You are entitled to your opinion. Star represented the last time in DCI history when people played truly great music and marched drill to create moving abstract art. Still the most influential corps in history.
AH! That Star show gets me all worked up EVERY TIME!
Joseph Melancon saw it live. The loudest thing I’ve ever heard when they crunk everything up! The entire stadium shook 😲
STAR....while you just can't help watching the Horn line and battery, the Guard is killing it the entire performance
88, 89 SCV is the last time a corps kept the essence of the same show from year to year to get it right (that I know of). This used to be fairly common practice, changing perhaps one or two songs from one year to the next. Still one of the finest shows ever to appear on a football field.
Madison did City of Angels two years in a row, ‘91 and ‘92
Listen to the sound impact and the response of the audience from years ago. There are always some exceptional performances. The difference between now and 35-40 years ago is the impact the performance has on the audience. In 2017, I took my daughter to her 1st DCI competition, and my 1st since the late '80's. After many well performed, but ho-hum shows,I told her to get ready for 3 standing ovation performances from the final 6 corps. We were both sorely disappointed. Don't substitute fluff for substance, If you can add visuals without taking away from the actual Drum and Bugle Corp performance, fantastic. But audience response tells the story. Today's players are extremely talented people. Absolutely no disrespect meant towards them. The shows need to be redirected back to the audience, not the judges The judges need to accept that and base GE on audience perception, not theirs What is better for the long term growth of DCI, attracting a dozen more possible judges for the next year or 1,000 more fans loving the impact of the shows?
YUP! Even as a new-generation DCI fan, I agree wholeheartedly. I'm tired of seeing the top 5 consist of the "best" (*COUGH* BD *COUGH*), albeit I have to make an exception for the Bluecoats, but even then, I'm not always happy with what they bring. As I said on another comment, despite being a newer World Class corps and not the top 12, Music City got a LOT of cheers and standing ovations this last season, when I was at the "home" show in Murfreesboro. Even during the performance. I attribute that mainly to being a show that everyone could love, even those that aren't into other corps except their one and only. MCDC is now getting a larger fanbase, mostly with moving from Open Class to World Class for the 2018 season, but also because their shows are enjoyable.
In your defense, 2017 in my opinion was a very awkward year for DCI, no show really blew me away either... but damn if 2018 didn't come back with vengeance. SVC, Crown, Bluecoats, Blue Knights, just blew me away with extremely high caliber shows.
Jameson2018 Rhodesian not a metamorph fan eh?
Metamorph one of the best shows of this era. Idk which show ur talking about but they got the whole place rocking
Perfectly said. A couple years ago I sat down to a show that left me bewildered. I saw 3823 contras ( uggg tubas) walk out. I said THIS is going to sound grand! I was solely disappointed in the lack of guts, risks and emotions that were front and center in the old days.
That first one always brings me to tears. I love it so much. So dramatic and such a perfect ending
The '89 SCV is my favorite marching show of all time. Excellent picks sir!
NJHank Thank you!
The Music of the Night is my favorite song, so I just love that closer.
Ok so how did they do the disappearing phantom?
Here's to the men and women of the " Phantom Regiment ". What a joy to watch music and drill in such precision!!!!
Star of Indiana did not fold. They just left DCI and started BLAST.
As a diehard SCV fan, I say putting both Phantoms is excessive. Would've just put 1988. It was better.
+Theodore Greanias Star was the only corporate-sponsored corps in DCI history... I'm pretty sure they were FINE financially. They just made the move to Brass Theatre, which then became BLAST!
Star's leadership had put a lot of money into DCI. They had a falling out with the way DCI was heading as well as they felt the judges were not fair to Star. So they moved to the brass theatre and broke ties with DCI.
AKA took their ball and went home. Star was boring EVERY year.
Theodore Greanias Bill Cook actually funded them with 1 million dollars when they started so I'd say they were fine financially. They left DCI because they wanted shows longer than 14 minutes, and they moved to brass theatre
I never saw Crossmen 2012. This was pretty awesome. It was so great to see. Thanks for sharing. I have a friend who's son may be in that era and I'll forward. Thanks!
There's drum corps before Star of Indiana 1993 and drum corp after Star of Indiana 1993; what an iconic performance!!!
The double SCV whammy. Mad respects paid. The 1989 performance is undeniable but the 1988 rendition is actually my favorite version - although the 1989 finale takes the cake. No greater moment took place between that and Phantom’s 2008 finale IMO
god that crossmen scream get me every time
Star getting 2nd was the biggest scheist ever.....should have been 1st by a mile
Don't forget 1989 where phantom should have beat Santa Clara
Neither of those things should've happened and didn't.
they should have, but didn't*
my band director marched in that show
1049berkeley: 93 Star's design was ground breaking, but 93 Cadets had a far more demanding and better executed show at finals. Star's GE and music were killer, but their marching execution was somewhat poor at finals. Repeated spacing and form errors at finals, especially in Medea. Whereas Cadets ran 200 + bpm nearly their entire show (not just the last 3 minutes) and were clean, clean, clean beginning to end. One of the best marching performances ever, and one of the hardest drills ever. Cadets' brass was nearly as good as Star and Cadets' percussion and guard were better (Cadets' percussion got dumped at finals...won quarters and semis but somehow lost finals?). To this day 93 Cadets is one of the most demanding and best executed shows ever to hit the field. And that takes nothing away from Star. Star 93 is and always will be legendary. But they were properly in 2nd place at finals, and were lucky to have only been .01 behind. That's the problem with judging art...scores don't always equate to impact on the activity. For example, 1980 SCV and 2014 Bluecoats.
to be part of something greater than ones self! Truly magnificent!
Bro anyone else see that frog hoppin at 1:50
Zakary Martens Huge F if he got stepped on but he’s probably fine
Not a frog. It was a beatle.
I thought the horn snap was gonna be in here until I saw 6 years ago
Good list, but I don't understand why you would include two nearly identical performances of Phantom. That seems completely superfluous. Yes they were good performances, but there are so many other great moments that deserve a spot on this list.
I've heard years of feuding between which show was better; I included both closers so they were easy to compare. I have other videos with other shows; this isn't my only one. But I understand your point.
'89 is way more difficult and way cleaner (beyond the battery, which was excellent both years). '88 has 100x the emotional content.
That was santa clara
Brian Rector
Wtf scv deserves every sport on this list, but that's just my opinion. I'm a diehard vanguard fan
I like the tilt closer but i think the ballad deserves to be there instead. That was the best ballad I've ever seen
Logan Benoist crown 13
Regiment 1993
Theodore: excellent documentation! As a librarian I appreciate this. THX 🤗
Thank you! Thanks for watching!
I am crying...it's all so fantastic!
its amazing over all the years of dci phantom shows always have that famous phantom regiment pitch perfection
Landon Garrison ...phantom regiment isn't in this video...
Thanks for showing Bones some love!!
No problem! Thanks for watching!
IMHO, the build-up to, and the angled company front (0:40) from '88 SCV still gives me chills, and it's 2018 !!! No offense Madison, I thought SCV was better(just an opinion)
Bluecoats, "Tilt"... A groundbreaking concept, awesome modern show. So much emotion in this show and they DEFINITELY peaked at the right moment !!! (IMHO, they should've won) I can't stop watching the ending... (11:54) very cool. BLOOOOOOOOOO !!!
(FMM '77-'87 Cavaliers-Baritone/Tuba player)
George McCormick no offense taken but as someone who was in the audience that night- Madison took it with their power and Uber clean footwork. There was no question to us. 😊 but I loved SCV too.
Nice Crossman blasts.... underrated show
From 88-89 I liked how scv decided to straighten out the company front
That Crossmen moment, MJ would be proud.
2014 was propbaly the most insane dci season ever
1993 Star of Indiana... that corps should have won by POINTS (plural)! Easily 20 years ahead of their time.!
is it just me or did anyone else get chills at 0:24
Hard to pick 5 from thousands…Garfield’s first z fold, phantom’s Spartacus, Vanguard’s Babylon - it’s an endless list…nice 5 here though!
I love how SCV was like "phantom of the opera deserved to win first place last year, so lets do it again and rob phantom regiment of their best show ever!" lmao gets me everytime
Enzo Espinosa wasn’t a rob tho
I think someone asked the judges who do you award first place? And they said Phantom, and some idiot thought they meant Phantom of the Opera. But by then it was too late. That’s my theory.
Another dumb armchair judge who has no idea what he’s talking about. Typical clueless drum corps fan.
@@totesgene jeez bro, its not that serious. just a joke.
@@enzoespinosa7629 sorry. It’s hard to tell with DCI fans.
Holy fuck I have never heard a drumline be louder than the band holy hell that was cool
Great vid. Also, I'm submitting, 2010 Phantom Regiment. The whole show. Love it too much.
I can't submit the whole show due to copyright, but any specific excerpt your favorite?
Diehard Fragile Fan supports this. (me)
One of the directors at my school is the Baritone solo in the beginning
Dog885 same.
Cross men 2012 and blue coats 2014 👌
I would've loved to hear Phantom of the Opera live!
To all the drummers, the infamous Star rolls are at 4:50 and 6:27. You’re welcome.
Bro this gave me tingles
The jump at 12:35 to 12:40 is Amazing.
Scv 1988 - 2nd place
"Ill fucking do it again"
Scv 1989 - 1st place
The first one gave me chills!!
I like the double Cadets z pull in the Bluecoats finale...
Bro with phantom, when you think it's finally over, you get hit with ANOTHER brass impact!
Inaccuracy, should have put the entire star of Indiana 1993 show. Love that show so much.
Haha, will do next time! Thanks for watching!
4:50 Carolina crown 2016!!!!
Desiderio Díaz Canseco crown did a tribute, yes. I think harloff was drum major this year?
You would be correct!
You mean Fairhope high school 2017 closer
@@nickniehaus1763indeed, Matt Harloff was the drum major in Star '93.
What about crowns 2015 ballad?
The screamer at 9:16 was killer
you should replace cross men with 2009 SCV the ending of that show is just so good it will get you emotional because of how beautiful it is
Good job
Thanks for watching!
And now we must add Babylon to the list
Tilit
Dam.Don't ya just love it. The "Fink".
Best be knowing that I am still watching this in 2020
Jaiden Barrett Thanks for watching!
That pitch bend at the end was the shit! To too cool!
Wow just wow
Omg they did the phantom of the opera!!!!!!
Twice
Phantom Regiment- 2012(I think) Juliet. Closer was amazing! They took an extremely well crafted piece of music and put so much power to it. One of my favorite closers aside Tilt
I've never seen such a big drill move by basses while turning @ 7:43
clark bolding betcha is was fun to do though!
dang, Crossmen should have placed higher that year!
Bugles deliver on the hits. It’s true. I miss those hits, but anything with fast notes gets pitchy and muddy. That being said, I don’t know why we haven’t seen a group use them for a portion of the show. Lord knows they have worked out how to switch every damn person to trombone seamlessly in the drill.
ThatsNOTaTHING i’m pretty sure it’s a timbre thing especially if only part of the ensemble is using them also where can you even get those puppies nowadays
KennyDreadfuls the closest thing to that is phantom regiments intro in 2008
Love dci drum corp
Star of Indiana was the shit for a minute, Tho.
Phantom of the Opera Andrew Lloyd Weber .Music of the Night
I wholeheartedly agree with four of those pics only one I don't agree with is the Crossmen. There were so many other moments that could have been chosen for that slot such as Blue Devils 1996 or Phantom Regiment 1996 as examples. That is the beauty of drum corps is what is breathtaking to you may mean something vastly different to somebody else but there are definitive moments that everybody just kind of stops and looks at one another and understands there watching greatness. Those moments have unfortunately in my opinion become fewer and fewer as the years progressed you want electronics have been introduced into the sport but absolutely for me one of those moments was the end of that Bluecoats show. I remember the first time that I saw that show and I was just blown away at the quality of musicianship and more so utter command that the kids had of that show.
I thank you for your comment. I simply appreciate Crossmen 2012 as a trumpet player myself, and the outstanding range by the soloist.
I made a second moments video, and had seriously considered 96' Phantom, but ended up not including it just yet.
And I wholeheartedly agree, Tilt's closer was breathtaking.
As a younger DCI fan and marcher, I have been exposed to more modern DCI, hence my appreciation for the newer shows.
+Theodore Greanias I don't have any issues was using Crossmen... Actually marched for them in 99. great organization and provided me with some of the best experience of my life.
Chris Hickie Crossmen had the best opener in my opinion
When's the last time a Corps' familiar finisher was put into the performance from the "days of old" and glory?
where's carolina crown 2015?
dude 12:00 is just oh my lord 👌
One of these things is not like the other
9:08 a soloist without a microphone... What is the world coming to?😄
Everything after that Star finale just sounds so.... Ordinary
8:16. I've literally never seen Star of IN. I remember that the Cadets did this music not long ago, for a closer....beautiful drill. What year is this?
1993, thanks for watching!
Get involved my friend! Star 88, 89, 90, 91 especially are great!
The crossmen one sounds like a keytar, and he also is playing over the whole band with NO MIC
5:32 I would love to say that this is cadets 2013, but I have to admit it's the other way around.
The Vanguard Phantom show was in 1989, and they won that year, not second.
Lhotps789 they did the show twice. In 1988 which they placed second AND 1989 which they placed first
They did it both years. That's why 89 was so good.
Does anyone know the name of the band at 8:31 and indeed what is the name of the song they are playing? I can't get that song out of my head.
Nevermind I found it-------Crossmen 2012 Fragile
12:02 *breathes in* AH, 12:12 *breathes in AGANE* AHH, 12:22 *inhales inhumane amount of air* AHHH, 12:37 *dies of breathing too hard, then reawakens* AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH
santa clara vanguard did the same show twice?
Dr.Thearoy 1988 & 89... Which they won in 89. MEGA Scout fan here, but hands down the best show ever. Wrote an Enlish paper on 89 show... got a 95!
Justin Vargas best show ever? That’s some high praise...
I'm sorry but throughout the 80's,90's the Cadets,Cavaliers,Blue Devils,Vanguard and Star, produced some of the best performances EVER!. The modern Drum Corp does NOT deliver what those guy's did back in the day.
2010 Bluecoats, 2011 Cadets, 2013 SCV and 2014 Bluecoats shows could rival any show from the 80s and 90s in my opinion.
@@richardseyboldt3960 Show me multiple standing ovations throughout sets in any of those shows. Show me people going absolutely crazy during any of those shows. The sound of today's corps just don't do it because the band instruments don't have the extra punch, that X factor.
@@JohnSmith-zi9or Bluecoats 2014 has some of the best crowd reactions I've seen
@@scottrushforth Exactly, "I've seen" anecdotal. I just watched the show, had to go to 1:44 until after the buildups do I hear the crowd. Yawn.
@@scottrushforth But I'm sure it was "hard" and I'm sure "they worked hard."
But what makes me mad is that 2012 crossmen came in 12th like what other show was more iconic that year?
Turandot and For the Common Good...both of those
Speaking as an individual who marched 2012 Crossmen, the opener and breaking back into finals were the only reasons why its remembered so profoundly. The fact that our screamer (and my section leader) could be heard over the drum corps without a mic was pretty insane considering how every soloist these days has a mic. The rest of the show is pretty meh in comparison though haha. It was a great rookie year all said and done.
12:41 totes laid his hand on her bewb on purpose. good move, sir. :D
That's nothing. Look up Blue Devils 1992.
Keem Osabe actually...that’s a girl
Why did SCV do such a Similair show for 2 years in a row
IDK but they won the second time around so can't blame them.
I think it's because in '88 they were so close to winning they felt if they tweaked it for '89 it'd be an easy win, and turns out they were right. I mean Phantom Regiment has done Spartacus three times, although not in a row
it was a two part show
It was common for corps to do a show or elements of a show multiple years in a row in the 70's and 80's. Especially in the 70's. Cavies duppd much of 89's show into 90's.
To get highest score ever...
That Star show was good. That must have been a Zingali drill.
He passed in 92, but he wrote the drill for Roman Images in 91, so if he didn't do Madea, it was heavily influenced by him.
George was their drill writer in the final years. The end of the 91 show is classic Zingali.
can someone post scv 88 full show? all I ever find is 89 yet I like 88 more
What's the difference ? :)
I was good with SCV and Phantom Of Opera, then I started hearing trumpets and not Bugles. That ruined it for me! I miss them G Bugles.
You should have put 1989 phantom on here
They're on another one of my videos.
Bro 2011 Cadets, Between Angels and Deamons