Agree 100%. I have a Chronomaster Sport and the Defy Skeleton is another dream watch. At 1/3 the price and with the added benefits of titanium and a slimmer profile, it would be very difficult to bypass the CW for a second Zenith.
As always, a great video from you. For €5000 there is nothing comparable on the market, a titanium watch with a real in-house (CW's own movement manufacturer Synergies Horlogeres) COSC, 120 hour power reserve, a really beautiful skeletonized movement with beveled edges and a strap with quick adjustment. The Chopard Alpine Eagle XP, which costs almost €30k, doesn't have beveled edges on the skeletonized bridge. The price is more than fair. I've already ordered a twelve X and now I have to wait.
Your macro shots really show the quality of the finishing on both the case and the movement . CE have really raised machine finishing to really extreme levels.
Have to say, i do love how much the movement on the CW fills up the caseback, and I do think that they're putting in a great effort to add value and not just raising the prices for the sake of it. Looking forward to see where Christopher Ward takes the 12 in the future :)
Great specs, beatiful watch. For us, the watch enthusiast's, it is bless that there are some microbands out there like Christopher Ward that delivers such high quality watches in reasonable and afordable prices. Does Christopher Ward can be considered a microbrand;. They have a lot of successful projects in the two decades existence.
Nice watch, I have a few CW, love them. But machine finishing at this price,.... well just look at the piece hanging out like a sore thumb at 8:01 mark.
Excellent review as I happily have come to expect. I totally love my Zelos, Sarb 017, SNA 411, TAG Heuer 39 mm Blue “Glass Box”, etc. The Heuer is my highest level in my modest collection, none of these include my vintage watches and pocket watches. Elgin, Hamilton, Omega in full 14K etc. I am smitten by CW. Thanks again for such a thorough review!
First class review, the best I have seen on the new release from CW . Some great photography and macros. Overall very comprehensive and well balanced review well done sir!. I actually like this skeletonized version of the twelve . CW have done a great job in my opinion, and tick all the boxes I look for on a skeleton watch, such as water resistance and decent lume ,also legibility on reading the time which often gets overlooked in favour of aesthetics. The price for what it is , not too bad. Which you pointed out very well. Thank you
I just had an idea, this in bronze would be stunning. I know everyone is complaining about the price, but that's only cause it's titanium. If the same watch was made in steel, it would command a slightly higher price over the normal Twelve in Ti model, which is where I think people want to see it priced. A bronze should come in a little under the Titanium skeleton and I personally think would look absolutely incredible with those warmer tones. Another thing I think this watch requires to make it feel more complete and take it just a little bit above is some sort of polished element on the minute markers, something similar to the normal Twelve but possibly hollowed out for the lume to shine through.
Great watch review indeed! Loved the close up with the backlighting, I enjoyed your sound effects! You nailed it, no one comes close at the pricing they're offering it, it's scary the amount of mark up in the industry! Christopher Ward is like " Hold my ale mate" -- and is turning the market upside down!! all those stuffy AD's that make you buy crap before they "allow" you to purchase the piece you want need to get humbled by a downturn of people putting up with their nonsense. Savvy Gen Z and millennials will be buying these in droves! (and even us Gen Xers will be too :) Cheers!
Thanks a bunch for the support. Yes CW is making a lot of progress and despite what many people say about the price, i still feel its a great value for what others are offering.
Fantastic review Jayson, many thanks. CW has come such a long way to a point, in imho where it rivals some of the better established luxury Swiss Made watches at a far better cost proposition. I would also think that CW is no longer categorized as a microbrand, having by now a solid market presence with a loyal customer following. Simply a fantastic watch company. Thank you again, Jayson, for your outstanding work.
Totally agree. I need to at least own one and hopefully it will be something in the near future. its such a great value even though it might be out of reach by some people.
Absolutely, and good luck with getting one in your collection. I bought the C63 Sealander Automatic Black Dial almost 3 years ago, and it is a lovely piece. Love it! All the best my friend.
yes i actually threw the watch and it landed on the table. but that is not an actual hard surface but rather a cardboard background. I added some foam underneath so its not going to be scratched or damaged.
honestly don’t look at this at holding value. CW is a decades away from that. But the quality and value for the price is there now. just dont expect to sell it off at the same price.
@@DesignAtelier that's the lug to lug, but ok. I'm referring to the rigid first link when bracelet pulled straight down, i.e. the total distance across the wrist, not lug-to-lug
Christopher Ward is amazing at using innovative processes to create relatively affordable watches that watch enthusiasts never expect to be available from an independent watchmaker. I’m impressed once again!
Zenith Defy Classic Titanium Skeleton Watch is better obviously but costs more and has way less power reserve. Persoanny I would take the zenith as I prefer its design language but much respect for this....this looks great in photos not sure if it has a wrist impact outside the photos! but thats just me.
Very interesting review and fantastically helpful comparisons. Personally, this is not a watch I was waiting for exactly. Only very rarely do I find this level of skeletonisation also truly attractive as a dial. The Twelve certainly does not do badly, but then we compare against Zenith which is one of the few I find truly attractive, and for me the aesthetics and finish of the Zenith in screen really are on another level entirely, just based on first impressions. When you take into account that the Zenith on the secondary market can come close to around 7000usd, I think there is a strong argument to save up in this price segment and get the Zenith. Arguably that is only a small knock against the CW. We're talking secondary market vs list price and the real surprise is surely the in-house movement finished and designed in this way by CW. That is another achievement from the brand. I am less impressed by the decision to stick to grade 2 Titanium on so many parts of the 4000usd watch. While I'm sure it saves costs, at this level of pricing that should not feature anymore. Finally, the argument set out on pushing the boundaries of machine finishing titanium meant that I had to think of Nicholas Hacko. Sure, no skeletonised integrated bracelet watch there, so not a like for like comparison. But when we are talking about truly pushing the boundaries of CNC and metal finishing, in this case grade 5 titanium, and deriving aesthetic benefits from that right from when you first set eyes on it (virtually in my case, unfortunately), I think we have to bow to the true masters down under. For a similar price, to me it would be an easy decision and jump at the Nicholas Hacko. The crucial point of difference is probably in the prestige of the in-house caliber for CW. Aesthetically I doubt many would ever have this dilemma as the two are worlds apart. Only the thought on delivering an innovative calling card in metal finishing brought this to mind and Nicholas Hacko's case needs no explanation to convince.
I am being unfair intentionally with the Zenith comparison but there is value in wearing the a skeleton integrated bracelet watch and Zenith is in there amongst the best. But i cannot fault CW for pricing and trying their hand on this. I’m sure the never intended the comparison but more of an opportunity to use that SH caliber even more. I’m just happy i got to use one for a week.
I'd rather go to vacation on Aruba for that price and take our pirate captain out for dinner. Kidding aside CW is almost moving out of the micro brand territory.
I like CW… but at $5k, it wont be anyone’s top pick. Their Bel Canto has more compelling reason to get over this and is directly competing with the tudor, omega models. While this has better bracelet and power reserve, the level of finishing is not there compared to my Defy classic skeleton. I can argue the Zenith is aesthetically better looking. A little $$$ more you can get a good conditioned pre owned piece.
1. it will be a huge success. 2. only a fool wouldn't buy one (see 1.) 3. FOMO is real. 4. I admire the watch. 5. It isn't for me, so I won't buy one (see 2.)
Could not have done a better review. Right when I wanted to see it next to the Defy, you pulled it out.
I’m glad you guys like that part.
Agree 100%. I have a Chronomaster Sport and the Defy Skeleton is another dream watch. At 1/3 the price and with the added benefits of titanium and a slimmer profile, it would be very difficult to bypass the CW for a second Zenith.
As always, a great video from you. For €5000 there is nothing comparable on the market, a titanium watch with a real in-house (CW's own movement manufacturer Synergies Horlogeres) COSC, 120 hour power reserve, a really beautiful skeletonized movement with beveled edges and a strap with quick adjustment. The Chopard Alpine Eagle XP, which costs almost €30k, doesn't have beveled edges on the skeletonized bridge. The price is more than fair. I've already ordered a twelve X and now I have to wait.
I agree with the fair pricing. I also forgot to mention that this is a COSC watch.
The opening line about finishing got me :D:D:D
🤣
Your macro shots really show the quality of the finishing on both the case and the movement . CE have really raised machine finishing to really extreme levels.
Very nice review, and those transition shots switching to the PRX are amazing!
Thank you.
Why do I despise the PRX but love The Twelve? Can a dodecagon make that much difference?
It’s the finesse of the 12 for me. And the finish.
@@DesignAtelierit's changed my mind on integrated bracelets.
Probably because you’re a snob?
What a great video! Comparing to Tissot & Zenith, while actually having the timepieces side by side was great.
Great review. I love this watch. I want to pick one up one day.
Have to say, i do love how much the movement on the CW fills up the caseback, and I do think that they're putting in a great effort to add value and not just raising the prices for the sake of it. Looking forward to see where Christopher Ward takes the 12 in the future :)
Great specs, beatiful watch. For us, the watch enthusiast's, it is bless that there are some microbands out there like Christopher Ward that delivers such high quality watches in reasonable and afordable prices. Does Christopher Ward can be considered a microbrand;. They have a lot of successful projects in the two decades existence.
Thank you! And yes CW remains reasonable
Great review and great humour! I love the look of this watch.
All the best from Scotland.
Thank you sir!
Amazing review. I love the wit and the production quality! Highly entertaining.
Much appreciated!
My first time watching one of your videos, really enjoyed it, thank you!
Nice watch, I have a few CW, love them. But machine finishing at this price,.... well just look at the piece hanging out like a sore thumb at 8:01 mark.
Excellent review as I happily have come to expect. I totally love my Zelos, Sarb 017, SNA 411, TAG Heuer 39 mm Blue “Glass Box”, etc. The Heuer is my highest level in my modest collection, none of these include my vintage watches and pocket watches. Elgin, Hamilton, Omega in full 14K etc. I am smitten by CW. Thanks again for such a thorough review!
Thanks re review! BTW, In CAD, the zenith is 11k, the CW is 6500. So Z not 3x cost , maybe different 4 u
Yeah we have that defy at 11,700 while the CW is 4865. Yeah even that is totally not 3x but more a distant almost.
Amazing content and beautiful camera shots Uncle 👊🏾
Much appreciated
Nice watch. The font on the rotor is ridiculously large. A bold move considering the past talk of the CW name on the dial.....
Excellent editing and great review. I've subbed. The watch is on my radar for sure. 👌👏👏
Seeing video of it vs pictures really shows how well done it is.
What a fantastic all rounded review
Thank you!
Fantastic looking watch, CW are doing great lately 👍🏽
Great video buddy
Thanks bro. I wish I could keep it.
Excellent presentation as always.
Thanks again!
First class review, the best I have seen on the new release from CW . Some great photography and macros. Overall very comprehensive and well balanced review well done sir!.
I actually like this skeletonized version of the twelve . CW have done a great job in my opinion, and tick all the boxes I look for on a skeleton watch, such as water resistance and decent lume ,also legibility on reading the time which often gets overlooked in favour of aesthetics. The price for what it is , not too bad. Which you pointed out very well. Thank you
such high praise. thank you! im happy you liked it.
Great review, both content and photography. Thank you. I subscribed.
thanks for the sub!
Cool watch, but at nearly 5K it's a really tough sell. It should probably sell at close to half of that price.
most would.
I just had an idea, this in bronze would be stunning. I know everyone is complaining about the price, but that's only cause it's titanium. If the same watch was made in steel, it would command a slightly higher price over the normal Twelve in Ti model, which is where I think people want to see it priced. A bronze should come in a little under the Titanium skeleton and I personally think would look absolutely incredible with those warmer tones. Another thing I think this watch requires to make it feel more complete and take it just a little bit above is some sort of polished element on the minute markers, something similar to the normal Twelve but possibly hollowed out for the lume to shine through.
At this price point, why not a Raymond Weil?
Another great review. I really like the original Twelve but this skeletonized dial version looks way too busy for me.
Yes its really meant to show off that busy-ness. But is see ya steve.
Great watch review indeed! Loved the close up with the backlighting, I enjoyed your sound effects! You nailed it, no one comes close at the pricing they're offering it, it's scary the amount of mark up in the industry! Christopher Ward is like " Hold my ale mate" -- and is turning the market upside down!! all those stuffy AD's that make you buy crap before they "allow" you to purchase the piece you want need to get humbled by a downturn of people putting up with their nonsense. Savvy Gen Z and millennials will be buying these in droves! (and even us Gen Xers will be too :) Cheers!
Thanks a bunch for the support. Yes CW is making a lot of progress and despite what many people say about the price, i still feel its a great value for what others are offering.
😂 That finishing line is golden.
Does it feel too big width-wize (41mm)? Or does it wear smaller than numbers imply?
Not my style, but I can definitely appreciate it. Excellent Defy comparison.
It’s above my budget. I’m just happy I got to review one.
Great review. Tempting watch. You didn't mention legibility: was that not an issue?
Fantastic review Jayson, many thanks. CW has come such a long way to a point, in imho where it rivals some of the better established luxury Swiss Made watches at a far better cost proposition. I would also think that CW is no longer categorized as a microbrand, having by now a solid market presence with a loyal customer following. Simply a fantastic watch company. Thank you again, Jayson, for your outstanding work.
Totally agree. I need to at least own one and hopefully it will be something in the near future. its such a great value even though it might be out of reach by some people.
Absolutely, and good luck with getting one in your collection. I bought the C63 Sealander Automatic Black Dial almost 3 years ago, and it is a lovely piece. Love it! All the best my friend.
Great review. I’m still laughing at, “yes it’s possible for an adult human to have 6 1/4 inch wrists”🤣
It’s remarkable. Discovery channel is actually securing the rights to build a documentary about it. But I’m still shopping around for a better deal. 😝
1:45 Woah nice editing!
Dud you really throw the watch on that background or how did you do it?
yes i actually threw the watch and it landed on the table. but that is not an actual hard surface but rather a cardboard background. I added some foam underneath so its not going to be scratched or damaged.
@@DesignAtelier Nice!
You've earned yourself another subscriber for an honest answer. Thanks!
Really good close ups, best review today by a long way.
Wow, thanks!
Really considering buying… but extremely nervous (first expensive watch purchase “over 2k”). Will this purchase hold some sort of value?
honestly don’t look at this at holding value. CW is a decades away from that. But the quality and value for the price is there now. just dont expect to sell it off at the same price.
Love CW. And this is so CW... all of that great work put into every part of the piece, but that rotor with the print... com'on now 😅
Haha. I’m ok with that rotor. But yeah the name may be too big.
what is the total distance from solid-end-link to solid-end-link?
46.3mm
@@DesignAtelier that's the lug to lug, but ok. I'm referring to the rigid first link when bracelet pulled straight down, i.e. the total distance across the wrist, not lug-to-lug
Great review, and a great watch. Thumbs up.
woah wtf? i have a sh21 blue marine and it costed less than half of this thing! CW must be really feeling themselves!
i cant imagine skeleton + Ti driving the cost up that much. thats insane. maybe i made a great choice pulling the trigger on mine
My new favorite watch channel!
your Video is Art.!! RESPECT
thanks a bunch!
Christopher Ward is amazing at using innovative processes to create relatively affordable watches that watch enthusiasts never expect to be available from an independent watchmaker. I’m impressed once again!
Same here!
God Tier review my man! 👏🏼
Appreciate it!
Zenith Defy Classic Titanium Skeleton Watch is better obviously but costs more and has way less power reserve. Persoanny I would take the zenith as I prefer its design language but much respect for this....this looks great in photos not sure if it has a wrist impact outside the photos! but thats just me.
Its got a presence on the wrist for sure but yeah i wish we have a better defy skeleton in the store but im just happy we have one to compare.
I love this watch. I want it so bad. Just got my Seamaster and the wife will not let me get two watches in one year.
It is a copy of the czapek antractique revelation.
Same designer. (i think) I’d like to say heavily inspired. Otherwise lawsuit would be flying around now.
@@DesignAtelier as a professional designer, I wish you do a video comparing both models. They are redicously similar...
Very interesting review and fantastically helpful comparisons. Personally, this is not a watch I was waiting for exactly. Only very rarely do I find this level of skeletonisation also truly attractive as a dial. The Twelve certainly does not do badly, but then we compare against Zenith which is one of the few I find truly attractive, and for me the aesthetics and finish of the Zenith in screen really are on another level entirely, just based on first impressions. When you take into account that the Zenith on the secondary market can come close to around 7000usd, I think there is a strong argument to save up in this price segment and get the Zenith. Arguably that is only a small knock against the CW. We're talking secondary market vs list price and the real surprise is surely the in-house movement finished and designed in this way by CW. That is another achievement from the brand. I am less impressed by the decision to stick to grade 2 Titanium on so many parts of the 4000usd watch. While I'm sure it saves costs, at this level of pricing that should not feature anymore. Finally, the argument set out on pushing the boundaries of machine finishing titanium meant that I had to think of Nicholas Hacko. Sure, no skeletonised integrated bracelet watch there, so not a like for like comparison. But when we are talking about truly pushing the boundaries of CNC and metal finishing, in this case grade 5 titanium, and deriving aesthetic benefits from that right from when you first set eyes on it (virtually in my case, unfortunately), I think we have to bow to the true masters down under. For a similar price, to me it would be an easy decision and jump at the Nicholas Hacko. The crucial point of difference is probably in the prestige of the in-house caliber for CW. Aesthetically I doubt many would ever have this dilemma as the two are worlds apart. Only the thought on delivering an innovative calling card in metal finishing brought this to mind and Nicholas Hacko's case needs no explanation to convince.
I am being unfair intentionally with the Zenith comparison but there is value in wearing the a skeleton integrated bracelet watch and Zenith is in there amongst the best. But i cannot fault CW for pricing and trying their hand on this. I’m sure the never intended the comparison but more of an opportunity to use that SH caliber even more. I’m just happy i got to use one for a week.
Boderry makes a Ti Skeletonized watch for $150. Just saying :)
Great watch, power editting.
I got a even smaller wrist than you, only 5.9inch. 😂
Just curious how it wears on your wrist? Is there overhang? My wrist able to wear it nicely? 😅
this one has very slight over hang on my 6.25 inch wrist.
@@DesignAteliernoted thanks
Superb review
Thank you 🙂
The watch definitely isn't 4000 USD and 4865 USD looks so much better than 5220 € what is the price for EU.
This particular watch is not my style but I respect CW for constantly climbing higher.
thanks for tuning in. I agree. they keep pushing forward.
Love the editing. But lighting should be improved. Too yellowish.
At 38mm would be great for me.
I'd rather go to vacation on Aruba for that price and take our pirate captain out for dinner. Kidding aside CW is almost moving out of the micro brand territory.
I think it is moving up away from the micro. I dont know it might be a good discussion in the future.
Watch on laptop makes a watch magnetised, achtung!!
Very cool watch!
indeed
Love it! 😍
Thank you! 😊
Incredible
I like CW… but at $5k, it wont be anyone’s top pick. Their Bel Canto has more compelling reason to get over this and is directly competing with the tudor, omega models. While this has better bracelet and power reserve, the level of finishing is not there compared to my Defy classic skeleton. I can argue the Zenith is aesthetically better looking. A little $$$ more you can get a good conditioned pre owned piece.
1. it will be a huge success.
2. only a fool wouldn't buy one (see 1.)
3. FOMO is real.
4. I admire the watch.
5. It isn't for me, so I won't buy one (see 2.)
🔥🔥🔥
I don’t like skeletons.
They priced it too high.
CW like all the others is an assembler of largely Chinese parts. They are made to a price. They are not a watch maker but an assembly line
i disagree. you cant find that bracelet and case anywhere else.
@@DesignAtelier or the movement.
Meh tin can. Originals bettr
titanium can.
@@DesignAtelier that's cool, but this movement looks dull. These ones are better with their really cool dials.