I was really laughing my butt off when the Elon said a few days ago that a 911 is basically the worst car design ever. I guess there is no car in the automotive history that has more race victories.
Group 5 was another golden era in motorsport. Zakspeed Turbo Capri gets an honorable mention with its 600bhp 1.7 liter twin turbo 4 cylinder as it gave the Kremer Porches a run for their money.
@@IWrocker Also check out the fire-breathing Porsche 934 Turbo RSR on Raw Car Sounds video. One of my favourite mods in Assetto Corsa for PC simmers, it is sublime to drive.
935 is one of the few cars that genuinely scares me. Maybe its the great "cliff" at 5 to 6k RPM. This car just goes like you would expect until you reach 5000RPM, then it turns into a missile.
The BMW was only driving in devision 2 if i remember correctly. The Porsche here is from division 1 with more power. The capri was build with a 1.7l for div 1 and a 1.4l for div 2.
The 935’s a legend in sportscar racing and also a Le Mans winner. When it won the 1979 24 Hours of Le Mans, the infamous Whittington Brothers were part of the winning lineup, with Klaus Ludwig, former Le Mans winner, Sportscar, and DTM Champ completing it. I highly recommend you check out the story of the Whittington Bros.
I was a kid when this came out and was a huge fan of racing cars (I still am today). I loved the green 935 team„Vailant“ Porsche so much my parents bought me a RC version of it. Man, was I proud 😍Now, almost 50 years later, you brought me back those memories. Thanks so much!
Check out the Porsche 917/30. It has more than 1000bhp and is the most powerful Track Racecar that was built till today. With this car it was possible to reach 300 km/h after 11.3 seconds.
Raced everywhere, won everything pretty much sums the 935's career. Peaked with winning the Le Mans 24 hours in 1979. One of the cars passed in the video is a c.2006 Audi A4 DTM car. You should definitely check out DTM - awesome series back in the day
Ian just has the best reactions to everything he sees with especially focus on car stuff, so open and honest with everything, but humble and respectful too. He's so not the stereotypical American, it's so good to see. The great community is a reflection of the person that makes the content, good people gets good communities if their hearts are in the right place.
First video is the man, the myth, the legend Leh Keen driving, guy is an absolute mad man! Do yourself and all of us a favor and check out the video "Leh Keen's rain dance". That is a helmet cam of him driving a modern Porsche 911 GT3 into the night in the pouring rain and fog during the 24h of Nürburgring just before the race got red flagged because of the bad weather, it is stunning driving and also has awesome sound.
Hello from Germany! Porsche is the best sports car there is! It is even suitable for everyday use you can take it to the racetrack and you can also use it to go shopping! Driving these vehicles was hard work, including the clutch you had to pedal with a pressure of 70-80 kilos! These were still racing cars for real men! They were very difficult to master and you had to have a lot of courage! I have a friend , his father owns a Porsche 917 K from the Can- Am series! You definitely have to watch a video of this Porsche! It was a monster, many racers were afraid to drive it! Greetings Nephilim
The reason for them using a four speed gearbox was that they didn`t have a five or six speed strong enough for the engine. They also drove them with a rigid rear diff because a normal diff didn`t take the load from the engine. Brutal cars.
I had the opportunity to see and photoshoot Kremer racing Porsche 935 during Histo CUP race here in CZ and that thing is real beast. It spits flames under the breaking and downshifting and it was overtaking everyone in the field literally giving everyone a lap during the race. And if you want to see another nice car I also recommend Porsche 917K with flat 12...that is awesome sounding car...and during the gear changes you hear the gearbox screaming...
Driving without nannys is such a joy and an art, no TC, no ABS, no power steering. I'm lucky enough to own a 76 911s and it's such a hoot, nearly fifty years old and still blows away most things on the road today.
First time here in the comment section, I totaly love this car. There is a street legal version of the k3 wich was create for Walter Wolf. It was on sale few years ago. Greeting from France.
I started watching one of your videos every now and then about a year ago. At the time I thought, oh dear, another one of those typical Americans who are only interested in what's happening on their doorstep, but luckily I was completely wrong. I like your enthusiasm when you discover new things, and I like that you are so open to new things, especially when it comes to motorsports and cars in general. I think there is still a lot to discover, especially from the old, wild motorsport days. keep it up Ian, you really come across as very likeable and of course I've subscribed to your channel now, because I'm also discovering new things or rediscovering things, such as this Porsche that I already knew, but had somehow completely forgotten over time. However, there is one Porsche that I will remember forever, and that is the 917, what an icon, what a sound, a relic from really wild times. I think cars look a lot slower on video footage because the camera pans or zooms in or out when recording, and there aren't as many reference points on a race track, like e.g. buildings, so the eye or brain perceives the speed to be slower than it really is. Best wishes from Germany!
actually the turbo lag on this car is not that massiv. it just has no boost at all under 4000 rpm or so. If the revs are at 6000 the turbo lag is really little.
Porsche made a modern 935 in 2020, for there top customers. There were only 77 units made and is powered by a 3.6L flat 6, making 700hp. Would be a great car to check out
You have an Assetto Corsa!!..Moby Dick is absolute legend..if you whant to take 4 a spin..959..and yea The Moby Flluf Dick..was a monster..2 turbos and the fsssssss..if i ever own a Porsche..doesen.t matter what Porsche..a 924 or a 944..Porsche is my favourite brand..i will never ever trade this brand 4 something else..
For me it's 2 diffrent liverys, Jägermeister and Martini Racing! Booth classic liverys in the late 70's and 80's, then my favorite 936 also in Martini colors!
As he drives watch him at work . . When he gets a moment he tightens his belts . Double brakes to make sure he has peddal . . This guy is on the money . . With drives like this they get into a zone . . They see the track wider . . Corners not so tight . How hes driving is automatic . He has become part of the machine . . Until he eases off . Great drive . .
Hello Ian! It might not be your cup of tea, but this person worked in most iconic Citroens , Peugeots and Renaults, (but not limited to) from the '70s and '80s + some rare and iconic cars from that era like the SM and other oddyties. It was an era before computers , so 'hyper-realistic' painters were very sought after. Most of the color images you see during the interview are not photos but paintings. He was part of several 'Styling workshops', for different brands. He was often tasked to draw prototypes (like the Heuliez that beat Le Mans speed record) or concept cars. It's a bit long but worth it, part of French automobile history . You can activate sub-titles and translate automatically. At one point he tells the story of people trying to order concept cars that they believed were photos of existing cars ! If you have the patience & the time, you have there a piece of automotive history. Take care and keep up the good work. Have a great day! ps the images are incredible! th-cam.com/video/lopEYJbWPyU/w-d-xo.html
Just watched this clip AGAIN. I love you're reaction to the 935, Ian! By the way, the 935 started a flat nose craze among 911 owners in the 80s, with lots of them rebuilding the nose of their 911 to make it look more like a 935. And at some point I believe Porsche started selling flatnose 911 turbos, so you could get a 935 lookalike 911 directly from the factory! Also fun fact, while the ordinary 911s had 5 speed gear boxes, the turbo and the 935 had 4 spped boxes, because Porsche at the time simply couldn't build a 5 speed gearbox that could handle the power of the turbo! It couldn't handle the ordinary 930 turbo, so it could most definitely not handle 850 horse power from a 935!
After the success of the 935K on the racetrack, in 1986, Porsche decided to start giving to customers the option of installing the slant nose with pop up headlights instead of the traditional fender mounted headlights on their 930 911. It was called Flachbau and is quite a rare conversion to find these days.
One of the greatest beasts ever tortured a race track! Best looking, flame spitting dinosaur, german engineered monster with huuuge turbos and a glorious sound! 935k for president! 🇺🇸🤩💪
If you're looking for something really scary, take a look at the 1973 Porsche 917! Officially it had 1100 hp, on the dyno nearly 1600 hp. Even experienced racing drivers had their pants full when they drove this beast!
A motoring journalist friend of mine, in Australia had a Kremmer 935 turbo in the 1980’s. It was a street legal version of the 935 Turbo. We went for a early morning drive down on the South Coast of NSW, while we were having coffee, the constabulary knew of our activities, he came over to our table and asked if we had seen any low flying jets about, nodded and turned away. Point taken we had a normal drive back to his house
I built a model of a Martini Porsche 935 back in the '80's when I was a teenager. Amazing car and a lot of fun to build. It's a shame we didn't get the racing on TV as well here in Australia
You should definitely check the 911 RSR GTE, it's one of the best sounding car ever imo The one from 2017-2019 are pure eargasm I don't know if I can put a link here but the video is from 19Bozzy92 and it's called : Porsche 991.2 RSR GTE
Oh, those things were absolute beasts. Got to see them when I was a teenager, got to talk to some of the folks who drove them when I started working corners in SCCA. Watch the dude sawing at the wheel in the corners, they're an old-school Porsche 911 on drugs. All the weight's in the back. John Paul Jr. (tragic story, look it up) told me, "It was a weapon. You just nurse it through the corner, and then point and shoot." And yeah, I love Road America. Another of my club members from up your way told me once that it doesn't have 'frost heaves' because it gets so cold that the whole ground freezes at the same time. 🤣Also..some of the best 'track food' in the country. If you go, get a bratwurst, they're amazing. The actor Paul Newman loved road racing. He was a member of our club, won a couple of National Amateur Championships ("The Runoffs"). Placed 2nd at Le Mans with Dick Barbour & Rolf Stommelen in a 935 in 1979. Only thing Newman ever said to me about it was something like, '..yeah, after that, the insurance companies for the damn movie companies wouldn't let me drive things like that anymore..' Part of Porsche's success in racing is that when they developed a car, they'd sell more chassis to privateer efforts. Barbour was one of them. The chassis still survives, it's been restored to it's '79 Le Mans spec. Here's Gooding's video when they auctioned it off in 2016. Can't recall what it sold for. th-cam.com/video/GUYwTHelVdE/w-d-xo.html Oh, and "Hawaiian Tropic" is an old school '70s 'tanning oil'. I think they're still around, but sell sunscreen now. Big sponsor back then, and part of their marketing effort were those ladies in the skimpy bikinis. Highly sought for sponsorship around the paddock back then.. 😆 10:47 - Search for "IMSA Dekon Monza". Al Holbert drove one in the '70s, IIRC he won a championship in it. Main difference between Gp.5 and IMSA's "Camel GT" back then was that our races were shorter.
The Kremer team were based in Cologne. I think there's quite a bit of their legacy displayed at Motorworld, the motorsports museum at Cologne Butzweiler Hof. Right, Ian: Now you need to go and find pictures of the engine of the 935 to full appreciate the layout of the turbos. You'll see that, as it's a flat six, the exhaust manifold goes _straight_ into the turbo, one per each cylinder bank. Like, one foot of pipe between the rear cylinders and the turbo intake max! Just imagine what carnage this car would have brought to races if it had had a fifth or even sixth gear! The 935 _is_ a mind blowing and crazy exciting car indeed! 🤗 I wouldn't underestimate the impact the advantage in brakes the 935 in the first video showed makes, by the way. Light weight means less heat in the brakes, so they endure more and harder braking.
Some of my favourite V10s engine sounds would have to be the viper V10 the Lexus LFA, the Porsche Carrera GT and the BMW M5 V10 For V6 engines I personally enjoy the metro 6r4, which is a group B rally car and any Alfa Romeo with the Busso V6 and obviously the Ferrari V6 in the Lancia stratos if we’re talking specifically race car sounds I have a whole list i could go to for recommendations
The 935 is probably my favorite Porsche if I have to name one. Seeing these monsters race is incredible. On the downshifts they shout about 1 meter flames!
The 935 has been one of my favourite ever race cars since forever. 3.3 ltr flat six, twin turbo, over 800 bhp, in 1976!!!!! Thats twice the power of an F1 car of the time!! These things went over 200 mph on the Mulsanne at Lemans. Porsche had to pull all kinds of stunts to get it through homologation, my favourite trick is the rear window. The rules for gr5 stated that the car must use it's original rear window, but Porsche needed a different window for aerodynamics, so they just left the original window in place and fitted another over the top!!! Genius!!! Check out the Kremer K4, this was insane on another level, the final evolution of the 935 concept built by Kremer Porsche. So, the sound, this is due to it is a flat six, so perfect primary balance, it's air cooled, except for the later versions which had water cooled heads, so thats the whine you can hear, and the turbos softened the exhaust sound, although they are still very loud in real life from the outside. By the way, they had mechanical fuel injection too, no engine ecu!!!! Boost was contolled by the driver with a huge knob on the dash.
There are only two adjustable features on the 935. The brake bias lever and the big boost knob. Sometimes you see the driver turning that knob on the long straight aways. If you ever want to see and hear another great Porsche, take a look at Bruce Canepa driving the doors off his 917K at Mazda Speedway. The 935 looks a bit odd with the spoiler because these are silhouette series cars, meaning it needed to look like a stock car, and derive from a stock (production car) car, but allowed fender flares. The rear spoiler couldn't be wider than the stock car. Very cool series overall.
This car is one of the all time greatest. I could see some of them live in Monza, Spa and the Nürburgring, just awesome sound even at idle. First video could be Bruce Canepa. His is a hell of a driver. If the race track is only 1 h away, just visit a classic race.
The Porsche 935 was equipped with a 4speed gearbox and could still top out at over 200 mph! They were very successful in the IMSA series here in the US. The cream of the crop would be the last iteration known as the Kremer K3. At one point the 935/78 was given water cooled 4 valve heads and I believe they were welded to the cylinder barrels as well to prevent head gasket failure. I count the Porsche 935 as one of the greatest of the analog era.
You need to watch "Leh Keen's Rain Dance". It's the same driver from the Road America video, but driving a 911 on the Nurburgring 24h just before a 9 hour red flag caused by the rain. It's honestly insane and probably one of the best pieces of driving on TH-cam, it shows the true chasm in driving skill between a good pro racer and mere mortals (us).
Fun story, the 1979 24H of Le Mans had the 935 compete with factory teams but also Kremer Racing (basically a tuner) had their cars on the field as well. One of the racecars driven by Klaus Ludwig, but also two infamous substance smugglers, the Whittington brothers. There’s a very cool story behind that on the channel of Vinwiki, and truly a must to check out!
I fell in love with the 935 when I first saw one in the film "Condorman" the best thing in the movie, it was the bad guys car and in all black awesome.
have you ever seen the "yellow bird" porsche 1987 on the nordschleife nürburgring? the driver is insane,no helmet,no gloves,wearing t-shirt and jeans and drives the hell out of the porsche,going the tail weaving thruh the course.
I remember watching these beasts during the IMSA races in the early 80's. I saw 1 of them set a new lap record at Portland International Raceway and when I was going downthe back strait in sounded like the clutch was slipping as he shifted into top gear only to see later he was breaking the back tires loose as he was going onto TOP GEAR like I said what an BEAST
Really cool Porsche and what a sound. For some reason I like really much sound of 5-cylinder Audis, all of them but group-B ones are just on other level... But maybe one reason is i had Audi 100 (5000 in the US) with only 2 liter engine and 5-speed manual with quite open exhaust... I really liked that sound and even my father said he have to wait and listen it when i was leaving his house... 😄 Yeah he likes sounds of cars too...
Theres a really good recent Porsche with brilliant sound, its the 991 RSR that competed in the GTE class that was just retired. It was notorious for being very loud
If this is the Porsche I'm thinking of, the head and block of the engine is welded together due to it making so much power that the engineers had to weld it so it wouldn't break down during a race!
To me the word that comes to mind to describe the 935 sound is “productive”. I saw these race when I was a little kid back in the early ‘80s. These cars dominated in the 24 hours of Daytona. The sound of the 935 is burned into my brain!
There where many different manufacturers that competed in the same category as the 935 wich was called group 5 silhuette . The category lasted between 1976-1982 and in Japan until 1984. Chevrolet, Lancia, Ferrari, Toyota, Lotus, Ford, BMW, De tomaso etc where involved.
An amazing sounding car with an interesting story that I would suggest is the Peugeot 905, a group c race car from the early 90s. You can see how it developed to the 905 Evo bis and then the 905 Evo 2 "Supercopter"
Good entry point to learn about the group 5 beasts, the group b of circuit racing. Also, this car has a cool story of rule bending. Try to learn about the lights placement and the rear window
Hi Ian, thanks for the video, it's great to see how enthusiastic you are. The Porsche people wanted to win, so they built the cars accordingly. Check out the story of the Porsche 917. Won everything in the USA in the CANAM Series, then the rules were changed so it was no longer eligible to race. It had about 1500 hp in the last stage of development. Ferdinant Piech wanted a racing car capable of over 400 km/h. He did.
If you like "Moby Dick" take a look on the 917 the monster. It holds Porsche's version of Frankenstein in the form of the engine. They took two (2) flat-6, smashed them together into a Flat-12 and boosted the hell out of it. Some versions went up to 1.100 hp to the weight of 820kg. Holds some records still (and probably forever due to regulations) unbroken.
The Turbo lag on it is freaky! Drivers often report that you have to get back on the gas before the turn to get the power coming out of it. And after having driven it in Project Cars 2 I can absolutely confirm.
you have to visit or see 24h race at nürburgring(known as green hell), one lap 21km / 13 miles..and that 24h hours long. absolutly impressive, there are on board camera uploads, for example manthey porsche gt3 r 992
Anyone noticed the chain stretching and the suspension getting lower even without being on the road. I'm surprised by not watching Dyno parts flying and sparks everywhere. Damn!
For great Porsche sounds at Road America check "Mark Anderson Passes half the field at Road America". 928 GTS race car doing its thing on 5:48 long clip. Video quality is terrible being 20 years old recording but all the sounds are there.
22:35 This car is available in Assetto Corsa (if you bought the Ultimate Edition, which includes all the DLC). And the normal versions in paid DRM Revival modpack.
The 935 has always been a pure track beast. There's a 2019 version of the Porsche 935 (type 991) reusing the same body style as the original, only 77 units produced, not road legal, based on the iconic 911 GT2 RS. 700 hp for 1,380 kg, flat 6, 3.8 liter twin-turbo. 7-speed robotic gearbox. Rear wheel drive. First presentation on the Laguna Seca circuit in September 2018.
Porsche built a limited run 935/78 Moby Dick Tribute in 2019, based on the GT3 R Racing Car with GT2 RS Powetrain (700hp). There's footage from Goodwood Festival of Speed by Carfection here on YT (with Henry Catchpole). Probably not as cool as the original but certainly a mean machine as well.
Watching a 935 walk everyone in a straight line till it hits that Chevy. Yeah, this 800+ hp Porsche was the HANDLING based car of the Group 5. :D The designer for these racecars Norbert Singer was a very german Smokey Yunick character, and the way they made sure the engine could take the boost was also amazing - they WELDED THE HEAD TO THE BLOCK.
Group 5 is the best racing formula ever. Ford Capri/Mustang, Lancia Beta, Porsche 935/81 (long tail), Ferrari 512BB, BMW M1 Turbo, Nissan Skyline Turbo, Toyota Celica Turbo, all of these cars are fantasic.
IIRC, Group 5 rules required certain parts of the car to be standard, like the roof. The headlights also had to be standard, but teh rules didn't specify that they had to be in the standard location. That is why the headlights are low down on the Porsche 935. You should definitely check out the Zakspeed Capri Group 5. There was also a Mustang for IMSA developed by Zakspeed based on the Capri. Other suggestions Ferrari F50 GT Ferrari 550 GT1 Ferrari 312B/B2 Lotus 97T/98T Ford Capri RS 3100 (Group 5) Alfa Romeo 155 V6 Ti DTM
I was really laughing my butt off when the Elon said a few days ago that a 911 is basically the worst car design ever. I guess there is no car in the automotive history that has more race victories.
Bro, the kremer Porsche with the Jagermeister livery is just pure awesomeness.
You still need to check out the 917K. Flat 12. One of the greatest sounds in motorsport history!
And the 917/30 Can Am, just because it can power slide at ANY speed, and it's from the early 70s...
Yep.
Group 5 was another golden era in motorsport. Zakspeed Turbo Capri gets an honorable mention with its 600bhp 1.7 liter twin turbo 4 cylinder as it gave the Kremer Porches a run for their money.
He needs to look into the Zakspeed Capri for sure. My favorite Gr5 car since I'm a Capri guy.
@@MrCaprinut A Ford Capri.... another exotic car for a American. :)
This one is awesome too.
the screaming arrow zakspeed capri,had the street version capri.just love the shape of this car.
And The Japanese had the Silhouette Skyline GR5
800hp. 50 years old technology on brakes and suspension. Scary.
Take the 935 "Moby Dick" for a spin in Assetto Corsa with your new wheelset :)
That sounds like a plan 🎉🎉🎉🎉
@@IWrocker Also check out the fire-breathing Porsche 934 Turbo RSR on Raw Car Sounds video. One of my favourite mods in Assetto Corsa for PC simmers, it is sublime to drive.
935 is one of the few cars that genuinely scares me. Maybe its the great "cliff" at 5 to 6k RPM. This car just goes like you would expect until you reach 5000RPM, then it turns into a missile.
@IWrocker want see that, more and longer sim content, rally too!
Yes!!! This!! Also look up RUF Yellowbird on Nordschleife and then drive it in AC too.
The car was in group 5. All the cars in the racing series were crazy ford zackspeed capri, bmw 320 , lacia beta montecarlo .
love from germany.
The BMW was only driving in devision 2 if i remember correctly. The Porsche here is from division 1 with more power. The capri was build with a 1.7l for div 1 and a 1.4l for div 2.
The 935’s a legend in sportscar racing and also a Le Mans winner.
When it won the 1979 24 Hours of Le Mans, the infamous Whittington Brothers were part of the winning lineup, with Klaus Ludwig, former Le Mans winner, Sportscar, and DTM Champ completing it.
I highly recommend you check out the story of the Whittington Bros.
I was a kid when this came out and was a huge fan of racing cars (I still am today). I loved the green 935 team„Vailant“ Porsche so much my parents bought me a RC version of it. Man, was I proud 😍Now, almost 50 years later, you brought me back those memories. Thanks so much!
Check out the Porsche 917/30. It has more than 1000bhp and is the most powerful Track Racecar that was built till today. With this car it was possible to reach 300 km/h after 11.3 seconds.
Raced everywhere, won everything pretty much sums the 935's career. Peaked with winning the Le Mans 24 hours in 1979.
One of the cars passed in the video is a c.2006 Audi A4 DTM car. You should definitely check out DTM - awesome series back in the day
Martini Porsche 935 is for ne the most iconic race car.
Ian just has the best reactions to everything he sees with especially focus on car stuff, so open and honest with everything, but humble and respectful too.
He's so not the stereotypical American, it's so good to see.
The great community is a reflection of the person that makes the content, good people gets good communities if their hearts are in the right place.
First video is the man, the myth, the legend Leh Keen driving, guy is an absolute mad man!
Do yourself and all of us a favor and check out the video "Leh Keen's rain dance".
That is a helmet cam of him driving a modern Porsche 911 GT3 into the night in the pouring rain and fog during the 24h of Nürburgring just before the race got red flagged because of the bad weather, it is stunning driving and also has awesome sound.
Hello from Germany! Porsche is the best sports car there is! It is even suitable for everyday use you can take it to the racetrack and you can also use it to go shopping! Driving these vehicles was hard work, including the clutch you had to pedal with a pressure of 70-80 kilos! These were still racing cars for real men! They were very difficult to master and you had to have a lot of courage! I have a friend , his father owns a Porsche 917 K from the Can- Am series! You definitely have to watch a video of this Porsche! It was a monster, many racers were afraid to drive it! Greetings Nephilim
The reason for them using a four speed gearbox was that they didn`t have a five or six speed strong enough for the engine. They also drove them with a rigid rear diff because a normal diff didn`t take the load from the engine. Brutal cars.
800 horsepower and a curb weight of 970 kg (2,138 lb), this thing would be insane to drive. That power to weight ratio is lunacy.
I had the opportunity to see and photoshoot Kremer racing Porsche 935 during Histo CUP race here in CZ and that thing is real beast. It spits flames under the breaking and downshifting and it was overtaking everyone in the field literally giving everyone a lap during the race.
And if you want to see another nice car I also recommend Porsche 917K with flat 12...that is awesome sounding car...and during the gear changes you hear the gearbox screaming...
Driving without nannys is such a joy and an art, no TC, no ABS, no power steering. I'm lucky enough to own a 76 911s and it's such a hoot, nearly fifty years old and still blows away most things on the road today.
I also love that about my '82 911sc targa, the raw, unadulterated driving with no supporting systems other than your own butt.
@@Holilo7 I have to make do with an indoor Kart...now and then...
@@paulmichaelfreedman8334
It's also super fun ...and not a drama if you've challenged the physics too much.
I want to move to outdoor, faster Karts. indoor has become a bit boring.
@@paulmichaelfreedman8334
Sure. try it. Mayby you can try a real sport kart.
One of the most badass racing cars ever.
First time here in the comment section, I totaly love this car. There is a street legal version of the k3 wich was create for Walter Wolf. It was on sale few years ago.
Greeting from France.
I started watching one of your videos every now and then about a year ago. At the time I thought, oh dear, another one of those typical Americans who are only interested in what's happening on their doorstep, but luckily I was completely wrong. I like your enthusiasm when you discover new things, and I like that you are so open to new things, especially when it comes to motorsports and cars in general. I think there is still a lot to discover, especially from the old, wild motorsport days. keep it up Ian, you really come across as very likeable and of course I've subscribed to your channel now, because I'm also discovering new things or rediscovering things, such as this Porsche that I already knew, but had somehow completely forgotten over time. However, there is one Porsche that I will remember forever, and that is the 917, what an icon, what a sound, a relic from really wild times.
I think cars look a lot slower on video footage because the camera pans or zooms in or out when recording, and there aren't as many reference points on a race track, like e.g. buildings, so the eye or brain perceives the speed to be slower than it really is.
Best wishes from Germany!
Appreciate the appreciation 😊
Oh and thanks for pronouncing Porsche correct ❤
No TC, NO ABS, Plenty of turbo lag!
and don't forget the late 70's tires 😅
actually the turbo lag on this car is not that massiv. it just has no boost at all under 4000 rpm or so. If the revs are at 6000 the turbo lag is really little.
the wheel next to the shifter should be a "steem wheel" to control the boost while driving.
Porsche made a modern 935 in 2020, for there top customers. There were only 77 units made and is powered by a 3.6L flat 6, making 700hp. Would be a great car to check out
But still it is way heavier than the original :/
It's essentially reworked 991 GT2RS
You have an Assetto Corsa!!..Moby Dick is absolute legend..if you whant to take 4 a spin..959..and yea The Moby Flluf Dick..was a monster..2 turbos and the fsssssss..if i ever own a Porsche..doesen.t matter what Porsche..a 924 or a 944..Porsche is my favourite brand..i will never ever trade this brand 4 something else..
For me it's 2 diffrent liverys, Jägermeister and Martini Racing! Booth classic liverys in the late 70's and 80's, then my favorite 936 also in Martini colors!
As he drives watch him at work . . When he gets a moment he tightens his belts . Double brakes to make sure he has peddal . . This guy is on the money . .
With drives like this they get into a zone . . They see the track wider . . Corners not so tight . How hes driving is automatic . He has become part of the machine . . Until he eases off . Great drive . .
Think there were body kits for 935 front panels for 911's in the late '70's and early '80's in europe
I grew up in 70s and 80s these were one of my favourite from those times
Hello Ian! It might not be your cup of tea, but this person worked in most iconic Citroens , Peugeots and Renaults, (but not limited to) from the '70s and '80s + some rare and iconic cars from that era like the SM and other oddyties. It was an era before computers , so 'hyper-realistic' painters were very sought after. Most of the color images you see during the interview are not photos but paintings. He was part of several 'Styling workshops', for different brands. He was often tasked to draw prototypes (like the Heuliez that beat Le Mans speed record) or concept cars. It's a bit long but worth it, part of French automobile history . You can activate sub-titles and translate automatically. At one point he tells the story of people trying to order concept cars that they believed were photos of existing cars ! If you have the patience & the time, you have there a piece of automotive history. Take care and keep up the good work. Have a great day!
ps the images are incredible!
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Just watched this clip AGAIN. I love you're reaction to the 935, Ian!
By the way, the 935 started a flat nose craze among 911 owners in the 80s, with lots of them rebuilding the nose of their 911 to make it look more like a 935. And at some point I believe Porsche started selling flatnose 911 turbos, so you could get a 935 lookalike 911 directly from the factory!
Also fun fact, while the ordinary 911s had 5 speed gear boxes, the turbo and the 935 had 4 spped boxes, because Porsche at the time simply couldn't build a 5 speed gearbox that could handle the power of the turbo! It couldn't handle the ordinary 930 turbo, so it could most definitely not handle 850 horse power from a 935!
After the success of the 935K on the racetrack, in 1986, Porsche decided to start giving to customers the option of installing the slant nose with pop up headlights instead of the traditional fender mounted headlights on their 930 911. It was called Flachbau and is quite a rare conversion to find these days.
One of the greatest beasts ever tortured a race track!
Best looking, flame spitting dinosaur, german engineered monster with huuuge turbos and a glorious sound!
935k for president! 🇺🇸🤩💪
If you're looking for something really scary, take a look at the 1973 Porsche 917! Officially it had 1100 hp, on the dyno nearly 1600 hp.
Even experienced racing drivers had their pants full when they drove this beast!
It lets the tears of excitement flow horizontally to the ears.
Im from Germany, i love Porsche 40 years ago. 935k Jägermeister ❤❤❤
A motoring journalist friend of mine, in Australia had a Kremmer 935 turbo in the 1980’s.
It was a street legal version of the 935 Turbo.
We went for a early morning drive down on the South Coast of NSW, while we were having coffee, the constabulary knew of our activities, he came over to our table and asked if we had seen any low flying jets about, nodded and turned away. Point taken we had a normal drive back to his house
I built a model of a Martini Porsche 935 back in the '80's when I was a teenager. Amazing car and a lot of fun to build. It's a shame we didn't get the racing on TV as well here in Australia
You should definitely check the 911 RSR GTE, it's one of the best sounding car ever imo
The one from 2017-2019 are pure eargasm
I don't know if I can put a link here but the video is from 19Bozzy92 and it's called : Porsche 991.2 RSR GTE
yeah the RSR from that period was pure eargasm
Perhaps the best word to describe the sound is.. sophisticated 😊
Now you gotta watch Porsche 917K sound on Monza, it's a flat 12 engine just raw power, amazing. Cheers
the Alfa 155 V6 TI Touring car... the best sound ever❤
Oh, those things were absolute beasts. Got to see them when I was a teenager, got to talk to some of the folks who drove them when I started working corners in SCCA. Watch the dude sawing at the wheel in the corners, they're an old-school Porsche 911 on drugs. All the weight's in the back. John Paul Jr. (tragic story, look it up) told me, "It was a weapon. You just nurse it through the corner, and then point and shoot." And yeah, I love Road America. Another of my club members from up your way told me once that it doesn't have 'frost heaves' because it gets so cold that the whole ground freezes at the same time. 🤣Also..some of the best 'track food' in the country. If you go, get a bratwurst, they're amazing.
The actor Paul Newman loved road racing. He was a member of our club, won a couple of National Amateur Championships ("The Runoffs"). Placed 2nd at Le Mans with Dick Barbour & Rolf Stommelen in a 935 in 1979. Only thing Newman ever said to me about it was something like, '..yeah, after that, the insurance companies for the damn movie companies wouldn't let me drive things like that anymore..' Part of Porsche's success in racing is that when they developed a car, they'd sell more chassis to privateer efforts. Barbour was one of them. The chassis still survives, it's been restored to it's '79 Le Mans spec. Here's Gooding's video when they auctioned it off in 2016. Can't recall what it sold for.
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Oh, and "Hawaiian Tropic" is an old school '70s 'tanning oil'. I think they're still around, but sell sunscreen now. Big sponsor back then, and part of their marketing effort were those ladies in the skimpy bikinis. Highly sought for sponsorship around the paddock back then.. 😆
10:47 - Search for "IMSA Dekon Monza". Al Holbert drove one in the '70s, IIRC he won a championship in it. Main difference between Gp.5 and IMSA's "Camel GT" back then was that our races were shorter.
The Kremer team were based in Cologne. I think there's quite a bit of their legacy displayed at Motorworld, the motorsports museum at Cologne Butzweiler Hof.
Right, Ian: Now you need to go and find pictures of the engine of the 935 to full appreciate the layout of the turbos. You'll see that, as it's a flat six, the exhaust manifold goes _straight_ into the turbo, one per each cylinder bank. Like, one foot of pipe between the rear cylinders and the turbo intake max! Just imagine what carnage this car would have brought to races if it had had a fifth or even sixth gear! The 935 _is_ a mind blowing and crazy exciting car indeed! 🤗
I wouldn't underestimate the impact the advantage in brakes the 935 in the first video showed makes, by the way. Light weight means less heat in the brakes, so they endure more and harder braking.
Some of my favourite V10s engine sounds would have to be the viper V10 the Lexus LFA, the Porsche Carrera GT and the BMW M5 V10
For V6 engines I personally enjoy the metro 6r4, which is a group B rally car and any Alfa Romeo with the Busso V6 and obviously the Ferrari V6 in the Lancia stratos if we’re talking specifically race car sounds I have a whole list i could go to for recommendations
The 935 with that Martini livery does it for me, also like the original Alpine A-110. Just gorgeous!
The 935 is probably my favorite Porsche if I have to name one. Seeing these monsters race is incredible. On the downshifts they shout about 1 meter flames!
Ive seen a 935 at the Oldimer GP Nuerburgring about 15 Years ago. Hillarious, but my favorite was/is pre WW2 and the up to 1000cc class.
Manual will always be the best, not necessarily for speed but for overall driving experience. What a weapon. To pass an R8 and a GT says a lot. Beast
The 935 has been one of my favourite ever race cars since forever. 3.3 ltr flat six, twin turbo, over 800 bhp, in 1976!!!!! Thats twice the power of an F1 car of the time!! These things went over 200 mph on the Mulsanne at Lemans. Porsche had to pull all kinds of stunts to get it through homologation, my favourite trick is the rear window. The rules for gr5 stated that the car must use it's original rear window, but Porsche needed a different window for aerodynamics, so they just left the original window in place and fitted another over the top!!! Genius!!! Check out the Kremer K4, this was insane on another level, the final evolution of the 935 concept built by Kremer Porsche. So, the sound, this is due to it is a flat six, so perfect primary balance, it's air cooled, except for the later versions which had water cooled heads, so thats the whine you can hear, and the turbos softened the exhaust sound, although they are still very loud in real life from the outside. By the way, they had mechanical fuel injection too, no engine ecu!!!! Boost was contolled by the driver with a huge knob on the dash.
Love and Merry Christmas from Amberg, Bavaria ❤
There are only two adjustable features on the 935. The brake bias lever and the big boost knob. Sometimes you see the driver turning that knob on the long straight aways. If you ever want to see and hear another great Porsche, take a look at Bruce Canepa driving the doors off his 917K at Mazda Speedway.
The 935 looks a bit odd with the spoiler because these are silhouette series cars, meaning it needed to look like a stock car, and derive from a stock (production car) car, but allowed fender flares. The rear spoiler couldn't be wider than the stock car. Very cool series overall.
This car is one of the all time greatest.
I could see some of them live in Monza, Spa and the Nürburgring, just awesome sound even at idle.
First video could be Bruce Canepa. His is a hell of a driver.
If the race track is only 1 h away, just visit a classic race.
Fun fact, That Jäger orange on Wiki. saw it live like 15 years ago, i have a picture when i have my finger on the wing, was smiling like a kid
The Porsche 935 was equipped with a 4speed gearbox and could still top out at over 200 mph! They were very successful in the IMSA series here in the US. The cream of the crop would be the last iteration known as the Kremer K3. At one point the 935/78 was given water cooled 4 valve heads and I believe they were welded to the cylinder barrels as well to prevent head gasket failure. I count the Porsche 935 as one of the greatest of the analog era.
You need to watch "Leh Keen's Rain Dance". It's the same driver from the Road America video, but driving a 911 on the Nurburgring 24h just before a 9 hour red flag caused by the rain.
It's honestly insane and probably one of the best pieces of driving on TH-cam, it shows the true chasm in driving skill between a good pro racer and mere mortals (us).
Fun story, the 1979 24H of Le Mans had the 935 compete with factory teams but also Kremer Racing (basically a tuner) had their cars on the field as well. One of the racecars driven by Klaus Ludwig, but also two infamous substance smugglers, the Whittington brothers. There’s a very cool story behind that on the channel of Vinwiki, and truly a must to check out!
I fell in love with the 935 when I first saw one in the film "Condorman" the best thing in the movie, it was the bad guys car and in all black awesome.
have you ever seen the "yellow bird" porsche 1987 on the nordschleife nürburgring? the driver is insane,no helmet,no gloves,wearing t-shirt and jeans and drives the hell out of the porsche,going the tail weaving thruh the course.
I remember watching these beasts during the IMSA races in the early 80's. I saw 1 of them set a new lap record at Portland International Raceway and when I was going downthe back strait in sounded like the clutch was slipping as he shifted into top gear only to see later he was breaking the back tires loose as he was going onto TOP GEAR like I said what an BEAST
Your enthusiasm! Great video! 😄
Really cool Porsche and what a sound.
For some reason I like really much sound of 5-cylinder Audis, all of them but group-B ones are just on other level...
But maybe one reason is i had Audi 100 (5000 in the US) with only 2 liter engine and 5-speed manual with quite open exhaust...
I really liked that sound and even my father said he have to wait and listen it when i was leaving his house... 😄
Yeah he likes sounds of cars too...
Nothing tops seeing these at Sebring, with flames shooting out of red hot exhaust pipes, with brake rotors glowing red, too!
Just to add, my favourite ever livery for a 935 was the 1976 works Lemans cars in Martini colours.
Theres a really good recent Porsche with brilliant sound, its the 991 RSR that competed in the GTE class that was just retired. It was notorious for being very loud
I love Porsche they make some of the most beautiful looking cars. I am very fond of the 917k and 956/962c leman cars
If this is the Porsche I'm thinking of, the head and block of the engine is welded together due to it making so much power that the engineers had to weld it so it wouldn't break down during a race!
To me the word that comes to mind to describe the 935 sound is “productive”.
I saw these race when I was a little kid back in the early ‘80s. These cars dominated in the 24 hours of Daytona. The sound of the 935 is burned into my brain!
Your right That Boxer 6 sounds awesome
There where many different manufacturers that competed in the same category as the 935 wich was called group 5 silhuette .
The category lasted between 1976-1982 and in Japan until 1984.
Chevrolet, Lancia, Ferrari, Toyota, Lotus, Ford, BMW, De tomaso etc where involved.
M1 procar, M3DTM, old racing porches, IMSA audi.. there is sooo many great 80s eurocars you should look at!
You should react to some Group C or Group N videos. Those series mostly get looked over and forgotten
An amazing sounding car with an interesting story that I would suggest is the Peugeot 905, a group c race car from the early 90s. You can see how it developed to the 905 Evo bis and then the 905 Evo 2 "Supercopter"
Good entry point to learn about the group 5 beasts, the group b of circuit racing. Also, this car has a cool story of rule bending. Try to learn about the lights placement and the rear window
Nearest street leagal prducition version was 1986 Porsche 959 by V max 312 km/h / 194 mph.
Hi Ian, thanks for the video, it's great to see how enthusiastic you are. The Porsche people wanted to win, so they built the cars accordingly.
Check out the story of the Porsche 917. Won everything in the USA in the CANAM Series, then the rules were changed so it was no longer eligible to race. It had about 1500 hp in the last stage of development. Ferdinant Piech wanted a racing car capable of over 400 km/h. He did.
And when Mark Donohue set the all out lap record at Talladega in one.
Loving the channel. For engine sound video you should try the Ford Capri RS 3100. Awesome sounding cars . Ian in the UK
Please listen to rally porsches 997 of today...up to 9500 rpm...flat 6 screaming....😮😊
If you like "Moby Dick" take a look on the 917 the monster. It holds Porsche's version of Frankenstein in the form of the engine. They took two (2) flat-6, smashed them together into a Flat-12 and boosted the hell out of it. Some versions went up to 1.100 hp to the weight of 820kg. Holds some records still (and probably forever due to regulations) unbroken.
always like the flarnose look, I remember at some point seeing 2 930 flatnose in the same car park in aberdeen.... less than 1000 made
Highly recommend listening to the jaguar xjr-9, one of the best sounding v12s ever
The 935 used a 3.3L Type 935 twin-turbocharged flat-six engine which used a mechanical fuel injection system.
The Turbo lag on it is freaky! Drivers often report that you have to get back on the gas before the turn to get the power coming out of it.
And after having driven it in Project Cars 2 I can absolutely confirm.
Went to the Porsche museum in Stuttgart. When I saw the Moby Dick there I had a moment … spent a long time with it
you have to visit or see 24h race at nürburgring(known as green hell), one lap 21km / 13 miles..and that 24h hours long.
absolutly impressive, there are on board camera uploads, for example manthey porsche gt3 r 992
Anyone noticed the chain stretching and the suspension getting lower even without being on the road. I'm surprised by not watching Dyno parts flying and sparks everywhere. Damn!
For great Porsche sounds at Road America check "Mark Anderson Passes half the field at Road America". 928 GTS race car doing its thing on 5:48 long clip. Video quality is terrible being 20 years old recording but all the sounds are there.
Love your videos, from Ireland
Adding my support for a look at the Group7 Porsche 917/30 aka turbo panzer.
22:35 This car is available in Assetto Corsa (if you bought the Ultimate Edition, which includes all the DLC).
And the normal versions in paid DRM Revival modpack.
The 935 has always been a pure track beast. There's a 2019 version of the Porsche 935 (type 991) reusing the same body style as the original, only 77 units produced, not road legal, based on the iconic 911 GT2 RS.
700 hp for 1,380 kg, flat 6, 3.8 liter twin-turbo. 7-speed robotic gearbox. Rear wheel drive. First presentation on the Laguna Seca circuit in September 2018.
Porsche built a limited run 935/78 Moby Dick Tribute in 2019, based on the GT3 R Racing Car with GT2 RS Powetrain (700hp). There's footage from Goodwood Festival of Speed by Carfection here on YT (with Henry Catchpole). Probably not as cool as the original but certainly a mean machine as well.
Watching a 935 walk everyone in a straight line till it hits that Chevy. Yeah, this 800+ hp Porsche was the HANDLING based car of the Group 5. :D The designer for these racecars Norbert Singer was a very german Smokey Yunick character, and the way they made sure the engine could take the boost was also amazing - they WELDED THE HEAD TO THE BLOCK.
Group 5 is the best racing formula ever. Ford Capri/Mustang, Lancia Beta, Porsche 935/81 (long tail), Ferrari 512BB, BMW M1 Turbo, Nissan Skyline Turbo, Toyota Celica Turbo, all of these cars are fantasic.
a vote for the BMW M1 Procar next! love these car audio reactions, i get a visceral reaction with some cars. the BRM V16 is another must hear❤❤❤
The K3 built by Kremer was air cooled, meaning lighter and louder.
IIRC, Group 5 rules required certain parts of the car to be standard, like the roof.
The headlights also had to be standard, but teh rules didn't specify that they had to be in the standard location. That is why the headlights are low down on the Porsche 935.
You should definitely check out the Zakspeed Capri Group 5.
There was also a Mustang for IMSA developed by Zakspeed based on the Capri.
Other suggestions
Ferrari F50 GT
Ferrari 550 GT1
Ferrari 312B/B2
Lotus 97T/98T
Ford Capri RS 3100 (Group 5)
Alfa Romeo 155 V6 Ti DTM
The BMW M1 sounds great too. (one example video: BMW M1 ProCar w/ Straight Pipes Pure Sound! Best sounding BMW inline-6?)