It's funny he said that because they had a partnership with Chrysler for several years until Nissan merged or took over, in fact the jeep patriot/Compass were using the Mitsubishi lancer platform
Disagree. Have owned 4 in the past 7 years. 200k flawless, trouble free miles. Biggest bargains out there, as Mitsubishi dealers will wheel and deal. Great warranty too.
If the car manufacturers have known issues, no matter the service designation, should be paid for by the manufacturer. CR should work on either putting pressure on the manufacturers to have a single repair designation covered fully and/or lobby for legislation. Arteon over a Stinger? This is hilarious, because that Arteon has cheap materials and check out their awful reliability reviews.
I had the garage size issue in the 1970's also. I wanted a '73 Impala wagon in the worst way. On the test drive, I took it home to see if it would fit. It wouldn't! Boy was the salesman mad!! I ended up buying a '73 Gran Torino wagon. Still long, but not quite as long as the Impala. Even buying the Torino forced me to nose the front bumper between two studs in the rear garage wall so it would fit. It was a chore to close the overhead door (manual rope, no power) as there was less than two inches between the overhead door and the rear bumper.
I had one of the first 1982 Mitsubishi Cordias, when they first started selling their own cars apart from Chrysler. It wasn't bad, I had no trouble with it in 25,000 miles, but then the MR2 came out, and I had to have one of those. I stuck with them until 2000.
No doubt about it! Kia over VW any day of the week. FCA is the only non luxury brand that I would rank behind VW. That's my opinion based on my personal experience and research.
This is why length, width, and height of vehicles are readily available, yikes!!! I needed a tow vehicle which in my case meant full size crew cab pickup or full size SUV. My garage is 232" deep and the F150 is 231.9" and a Ram was I think another inch longer! I likely would have needed to make modifications and that was part of my purchase decision. THIS IS NOT THE MANUFACTURER'S FAULT OR PROBLEM.
My 2014 Prius has always been this way. Guage reading empty, low-fuel alert going off, range-to-empty shows zero miles, and I fill it up with a whole nine gallons and a bit despite having an 11.9 gallon tank. It's full, as I have ignored the instruments and driven another 100 miles past the 'zero range' point.
Thank you for your discussion about TSBs, Recalls, etc. It prompted me to check TSBs for my car again. I see that a problem that I spent about $2,000 repairing last year was covered under a warranty extended by the manufacturer. I'm hoping to get at least a partial refund for that expense.
If crash tests were based on real-world situations, the crash test dummies should be looking down at their cell phones at all times or doing their make-up in the rearview mirror. At least in Miami where I live..
Seriously, think before you buy. Research the vehicle dimensions and if possible drive the vehicle into your garage on the test drive. Why would this be the manufacturers issue or concern? 🤔
I have a 2020 RAV4 Hybrid with the fuel problem. As of this week, Toyota has a solution for the 2019/2020 RAV4 Hybrid. Cars are being fixed. You have to formally complain to Toyota and they will fix it at their cost....
It would be good to clarify which dimension is limiting with that unfortunate friend's garage. My house was built in '66 with a single door 2-car garage. It has a good amount of length and width (no center post) but the height is on the low side. We have an '11 Odyssey without a roof rack, and it comes pretty close to the bottom edge of the open door. I wouldn't be surprised if a new Suburban or similar would hit on the top, though I haven't measured.
26 seconds into this video, and I can tell you that the MAIN reason Mitsu. is not as popular in the US, is because they took away the beloved EVOLUTION.
Apparently the person who was asking about Mitsubishi hasn't driven one or spoken to someone who owns one... they're honestly, objectively, and intentionally a low-budget manufacturer. People aren't unjustly critical of Mitsubishi's lineup, but the fact remains that they are looser with credit and can get you in something with a new car warranty and probably a better interest rate than something used - that's what they compete with.
My family has owned 4 Mitsubishi’s (Outlander & Outlander Sports) over the past 7 years and 200k total miles. Zero problems, zero factory defects, 100% reliable and dependable. Great bargains and our good credit qualified for 1% financing for 72 months. Super warranty too. Sure, they are more basic and plain, but we’ve saved tons of money over the “name” brands. PS made in Japan! I recommend them. Dealers will wheel and deal too!
As to the great question of leaving a car with a dealer-Some states such as Colorado have lemon laws that require the manufacturer to buy back a vehicle if the owner cannot receive it back in a timely manner (30 days in Colorado).
Question 6 has been on my mind too, especially with not only larger vehicles but the aging population. My 80 year old in-laws moved nearby into a retirement community and they have a condo with attached garage which is so narrow, their Subaru Forester only fits with about a foot on each side max and they've already damaged the car hitting the garage. Retirement communities should have wider garages!! I fondly remember my grand-dad had a Ford Taurus and very narrow garage in his retirement community and the entire row had damaged garages!!
16:30 after thinking about the question, and Mitsubishi's core line of products, I'd like to respond as follows. "Mitsubishi is popular in other parts of the world.... why?"
The RAV4 hybrid fuelling issues seem only to be a USA and Canadian problem. There are no fuelling issues in the UK and Europe. I think that it is due to the vapour capture systems in America and that auto pumps click off too early.
Welcome back Emily, hope the baby is doing well. Speaking of glasses, is it in CR contracts that all glasses frames must be red? Great information as always.
Add the 2021 Hybrid Rav4 to the fuel tank issues, but the current service bulletin doesn’t cover 2021’s 🤬. Hope I don’t have to wait another year for Toyota to update this
As for the how the dummy is placed perfectly etc., You should also note that even though the dummy is sitting properly and looking straight forward they still always crash 😂
I feel for the guy with garage issues, but dude that's on you! You have to take your time and do the research before buying a vehicle. Precisely why I went with a midsize truck instead of a full size. I wanted to make sure it'd fit in my garage because the last thing I want to do is brush off snow off a giant truck on those winter mornings on my way to work.
And I would agree on the Arteon, it’s such a beautiful car, but it is a bit overpriced, and a bit under powered. I rarely see them on the road I mean I can count on two hands how many I’ve seen and that’s a shame 😓
Cash tests maybe aren't too perfect, but they don't cover some of the more common things that can come up, at least I Feel. Such as a crash at 55-60 MPH. It seems that most of the crash tests done by NHSTA and IIHS are around 30 MPH, and maybe there's some data to show that the majority of crashes happen at those speeds, but I think we also need to include crashes at higher speeds, and more variants of crashes, like rear-ending, and more imporantly, they need to start testing and certifying the bars on the back of semis as some videos show that a poorly made protection bar on the back of a semi, will in some cases ,decapitate the people in the car and sheer off the roof. That's another test (for trucks) that they should do as well. Yes I think some of the tests are too "perfect" but at the same time, you can't test every possible scenario.
As far as gas topping off goes, I have always assumed that mfrs set the Low Fuel lamp to go on well before empty. It annoys me. But I never thought the tank was short. To see exactly how much reserve you have at Low Fuel you have to run it down to empty - and carry a gas can ( on a road easy to pull off). Not sure what happens to new cars when empty happens though. Surely it can still be steered and braked with effort.
Kate’s problem with not being able to fill the RAV4 isn’t unique to that vehicle. I was hugely frustrated with my 2009 Prius which showed ‘empty’ and yet I was able only to put 4 to 5 gallons into the tank! Oddly enough if I let the gas go in at a slow drip, and topped it off about 5 times, I could get another 2 gallons into the tank (topping is a no no).
My Answer to Q4: Mitsubishi ain't popular anywhere, the market share in Japan is less than two percent. They were doing not too horribly in South Asian market thanks to the Mirage (AKA the cheapest Japanese branded car), but their operating profit dropped almost 90% this year, which is as bad as it sounds.
Until someone dies, Toyota doesn't care. I ended up to trade back my 2009 Tacoma because of the same attitude in 2012 by Toyota. I was at the dealership at least 2 times a week. Lemon claim didn't fly. No more Toyota after that. I'm much more happy with my US 🇺🇸 brand cars and trucks just because of their caring customer service.
Hi why are car manufacturers pushing the cvt transmission when they are known to fail , we do not know anyone that has one that has not had problems upto replacement at great cost .
CVT's are cheaper, lighter, better fuel economy, and better acceleration. But less durability. A lot of the durability question depends on who is driving. I am a 63 year old male driving a 2008 Nissan Altima with a CVT approaching 200,000 miles, with no service. Transmission performs flawlessly.
The CVT failure rate is a bit overblown. There are millions upon millions of them on the road. 99.9% do just fine. Several thousand failures will explode the internet pretty quickly. Plus it's very likely technicians are misdiagnosing problems as CVT problems. Lots of things can make the car feel like a CVT issue when it's a fuel delivery issue or intake issue. People see the RPM gauge go crazy, and just assume CVT failure and ditch the car cuz they're scared.
@@pedrofernandez8729 thats not true at all. Cars last longer today than ever before. And are lower maintenance than ever before. These are facts... The only difference is repairing them is much more complex when something does go wrong.
A TSB is the manufacturer trying to get consumers to pay for repairs that should be made free of charge through a recall. If you know of a problem FIX IT.
I don't get why manufacturers don't just publicly publish their own internal crash test data. Also since NHTSA apparently has access to the manufacturer data (because they oversee it), I don't understand why they can't publish it themselves. Prolly a bunch of legal stuff I don't understand. 😊
I don’t understand why the Congress just doesn’t simply extract whatever money is needed to conduct all tests directly from the manufacturers. If a manufacturer wants to sell a vehicle in the US, the government should go ahead and fully test it, and simply bill the maker for he costs off doing so. If they don’t pay that bill, they should be barred from selling any vehicles at all.
@@fordhouse8b You don't understand because you are an idiot who thinks the US is the only country in the whole damn world and all government bureaucrats are as clean as a whistle. If Toyota can do the test for $1 to get all the data needed to sell Corolla in 150 countries it will at least take $5000 if all government bureaucrats from 150 countries want to conduct their own in-house tests and God knows how much money is wasted for bribing the corrupted officials (they can fail a passable car if Toyota didn't put money in the right place you know) It's the customers' money at the end of the day and I don't think the customers are stupid enough to pay for all the bureaucracy BS.
Why isn't Mitsubishi popular in the US anymore? Because their products aren't competitive. Simple. However, they are more popular in less competitive markets where you get get away with mediocre products.
Well it's certainly true in your case, if you're in fact a Mr. Boy, because there's no such thing as being "10x as smart". It's "10x SMARTER THAN the guys". Or "half as smart". Or "just as smart".
Hi CR TC! I'm 'the' Will that posed that arteon vs stinger question. Super grateful for your thoughts :) For Keith, I'll have to try Meule et Caquelon. Next time you come, I recommend l'oree du bois up in neighbouring Chelsea. fr.oreeduboisrestaurant.com/
Prius too!!! Toyota sucks, for real. It's BS. They've (Toyota) has known about this for 10+ years in their hybrids. Consumer Reports is explaining this away without doing research on how long the gas tank problem has gone on for. CS is being VERY lazy here.
"I called Toyota but they were not helpful" - translation: they didn't refund all my money and give me what I want. And it's amazing how people try to make up facts that make no sense: the car is still getting more miles PER GALLON than the non-hybrid. Be thankful you're healthy enough to go to a gas station.
What you are suggesting is total BS. Toyota is lying when it states one of their vehicles has a specified fuel tank capacity when its impossible to fill that tank to the stated capacity. Therefore they need to remedy this issue. Period!!! . End of story.
@@williamking7420 its probably still filling up the tank. The gauges are probably tuned incorrectly or something and showing 3/4 when actually full. I've hear people driving 100 miles on E with Toyota hybrids.
I mentioned I wanted a Mitsubishi to my dad and he said and I quote " Mitsubishi is the Chrysler of Japanese vehicles"
i was gonna say they're more like Japan's AMC... but Suzuki tho
It's funny he said that because they had a partnership with Chrysler for several years until Nissan merged or took over, in fact the jeep patriot/Compass were using the Mitsubishi lancer platform
Disagree. Have owned 4 in the past 7 years. 200k flawless, trouble free miles. Biggest bargains out there, as Mitsubishi dealers will wheel and deal. Great warranty too.
If the car manufacturers have known issues, no matter the service designation, should be paid for by the manufacturer. CR should work on either putting pressure on the manufacturers to have a single repair designation covered fully and/or lobby for legislation. Arteon over a Stinger? This is hilarious, because that Arteon has cheap materials and check out their awful reliability reviews.
I had the garage size issue in the 1970's also. I wanted a '73 Impala wagon in the worst way. On the test drive, I took it home to see if it would fit. It wouldn't! Boy was the salesman mad!! I ended up buying a '73 Gran Torino wagon. Still long, but not quite as long as the Impala. Even buying the Torino forced me to nose the front bumper between two studs in the rear garage wall so it would fit. It was a chore to close the overhead door (manual rope, no power) as there was less than two inches between the overhead door and the rear bumper.
I had one of the first 1982 Mitsubishi Cordias, when they first started selling their own cars apart from Chrysler.
It wasn't bad, I had no trouble with it in 25,000 miles, but then the MR2 came out, and I had to have one of those. I stuck with them until 2000.
Pretty sure the Stinger will be more reliable than the VeeDub
No doubt about it! Kia over VW any day of the week. FCA is the only non luxury brand that I would rank behind VW. That's my opinion based on my personal experience and research.
Absolutely.
Will, you should buy the stinger. Lots of deals on the hood, more power, and handles much better.
This is why length, width, and height of vehicles are readily available, yikes!!! I needed a tow vehicle which in my case meant full size crew cab pickup or full size SUV. My garage is 232" deep and the F150 is 231.9" and a Ram was I think another inch longer! I likely would have needed to make modifications and that was part of my purchase decision. THIS IS NOT THE MANUFACTURER'S FAULT OR PROBLEM.
My 2014 Prius has always been this way. Guage reading empty, low-fuel alert going off, range-to-empty shows zero miles, and I fill it up with a whole nine gallons and a bit despite having an 11.9 gallon tank. It's full, as I have ignored the instruments and driven another 100 miles past the 'zero range' point.
Fuel bladder
Thank you for your discussion about TSBs, Recalls, etc. It prompted me to check TSBs for my car again. I see that a problem that I spent about $2,000 repairing last year was covered under a warranty extended by the manufacturer. I'm hoping to get at least a partial refund for that expense.
Nissan ate up Mitsubishi's US market share in the 2000's and Kia currently owns this segment.
I once saw on the back of a Mitsubishi a license frame that said "Pearl Harbor Survivor".
Wow I had absolutely no idea that the VW Arteon and KIA Stinger are hatchbacks! Thanks for that info! Amazing!
If crash tests were based on real-world situations, the crash test dummies should be looking down at their cell phones at all times or doing their make-up in the rearview mirror. At least in Miami where I live..
Wow, I thought I was the only one with this issue, glad I’m not alone.
Seriously, think before you buy. Research the vehicle dimensions and if possible drive the vehicle into your garage on the test drive. Why would this be the manufacturers issue or concern? 🤔
I appreciate the Apple IIc that Keith has on the desk over his right shoulder. Or is it an Apple IIc+?
I have a 2020 RAV4 Hybrid with the fuel problem. As of this week, Toyota has a solution for the 2019/2020 RAV4 Hybrid. Cars are being fixed. You have to formally complain to Toyota and they will fix it at their cost....
What if the car is under a three-year 36,000 mile warranty? Wouldn’t it obviously be fixed?
It would be good to clarify which dimension is limiting with that unfortunate friend's garage. My house was built in '66 with a single door 2-car garage. It has a good amount of length and width (no center post) but the height is on the low side. We have an '11 Odyssey without a roof rack, and it comes pretty close to the bottom edge of the open door. I wouldn't be surprised if a new Suburban or similar would hit on the top, though I haven't measured.
the fuel pump recall that is there for the 2018 highlander is also there for the 2018 camry
26 seconds into this video, and I can tell you that the MAIN reason Mitsu. is not as popular in the US, is because they took away the beloved EVOLUTION.
Apparently the person who was asking about Mitsubishi hasn't driven one or spoken to someone who owns one... they're honestly, objectively, and intentionally a low-budget manufacturer. People aren't unjustly critical of Mitsubishi's lineup, but the fact remains that they are looser with credit and can get you in something with a new car warranty and probably a better interest rate than something used - that's what they compete with.
haha a 1973 Impala is much larger than a 1967. I'm surprised it even fit at all! 😄
My family has owned 4 Mitsubishi’s (Outlander & Outlander Sports) over the past 7 years and 200k total miles. Zero problems, zero factory defects, 100% reliable and dependable. Great bargains and our good credit qualified for 1% financing for 72 months. Super warranty too. Sure, they are more basic and plain, but we’ve saved tons of money over the “name” brands. PS made in Japan! I recommend them. Dealers will wheel and deal too!
As to the great question of leaving a car with a dealer-Some states such as Colorado have lemon laws that require the manufacturer to buy back a vehicle if the owner cannot receive it back in a timely manner (30 days in Colorado).
Question 6 has been on my mind too, especially with not only larger vehicles but the aging population. My 80 year old in-laws moved nearby into a retirement community and they have a condo with attached garage which is so narrow, their Subaru Forester only fits with about a foot on each side max and they've already damaged the car hitting the garage. Retirement communities should have wider garages!! I fondly remember my grand-dad had a Ford Taurus and very narrow garage in his retirement community and the entire row had damaged garages!!
the 2018 rav4 hybrid has roof leaking problem,?
16:30 after thinking about the question, and Mitsubishi's core line of products, I'd like to respond as follows.
"Mitsubishi is popular in other parts of the world.... why?"
The RAV4 hybrid fuelling issues seem only to be a USA and Canadian problem. There are no fuelling issues in the UK and Europe. I think that it is due to the vapour capture systems in America and that auto pumps click off too early.
Welcome back Emily, hope the baby is doing well.
Speaking of glasses, is it in CR contracts that all glasses frames must be red?
Great information as always.
Yes and yes
Great info thanks cars are getting way too complicated
FYI The Stinger only comes in AWD in Canada, so it may be the superior winter vehicle in Gatineau
Add the 2021 Hybrid Rav4 to the fuel tank issues, but the current service bulletin doesn’t cover 2021’s 🤬. Hope I don’t have to wait another year for Toyota to update this
As for the how the dummy is placed perfectly etc., You should also note that even though the dummy is sitting properly and looking straight forward they still always crash 😂
I feel for the guy with garage issues, but dude that's on you! You have to take your time and do the research before buying a vehicle. Precisely why I went with a midsize truck instead of a full size. I wanted to make sure it'd fit in my garage because the last thing I want to do is brush off snow off a giant truck on those winter mornings on my way to work.
Is that the computer Keith uses to write his CR articles??? 🤔
And I would agree on the Arteon, it’s such a beautiful car, but it is a bit overpriced, and a bit under powered. I rarely see them on the road I mean I can count on two hands how many I’ve seen and that’s a shame 😓
Cash tests maybe aren't too perfect, but they don't cover some of the more common things that can come up, at least I Feel. Such as a crash at 55-60 MPH. It seems that most of the crash tests done by NHSTA and IIHS are around 30 MPH, and maybe there's some data to show that the majority of crashes happen at those speeds, but I think we also need to include crashes at higher speeds, and more variants of crashes, like rear-ending, and more imporantly, they need to start testing and certifying the bars on the back of semis as some videos show that a poorly made protection bar on the back of a semi, will in some cases ,decapitate the people in the car and sheer off the roof. That's another test (for trucks) that they should do as well. Yes I think some of the tests are too "perfect" but at the same time, you can't test every possible scenario.
As far as gas topping off goes, I have always assumed that mfrs set the Low Fuel lamp to go on well before empty. It annoys me. But I never thought the tank was short. To see exactly how much reserve you have at Low Fuel you have to run it down to empty - and carry a gas can ( on a road easy to pull off). Not sure what happens to new cars when empty happens though. Surely it can still be steered and braked with effort.
Its not recommended to run a car to empty. It can clog up your fuel filter.
Kate’s problem with not being able to fill the RAV4 isn’t unique to that vehicle. I was hugely frustrated with my 2009 Prius which showed ‘empty’ and yet I was able only to put 4 to 5 gallons into the tank! Oddly enough if I let the gas go in at a slow drip, and topped it off about 5 times, I could get another 2 gallons into the tank (topping is a no no).
My Answer to Q4:
Mitsubishi ain't popular anywhere, the market share in Japan is less than two percent.
They were doing not too horribly in South Asian market thanks to the Mirage (AKA the cheapest Japanese branded car), but their operating profit dropped almost 90% this year, which is as bad as it sounds.
Until someone dies, Toyota doesn't care. I ended up to trade back my 2009 Tacoma because of the same attitude in 2012 by Toyota. I was at the dealership at least 2 times a week. Lemon claim didn't fly. No more Toyota after that. I'm much more happy with my US 🇺🇸 brand cars and trucks just because of their caring customer service.
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why are car manufacturers pushing the cvt transmission when they are known to fail , we do not know anyone that has one that has not had problems upto replacement at great cost .
It's called planned obsolescence. Lease it for 3 yrs and then dump it and let the next fool deal with it.
CAFE standards are pretty strict. CVTs are very fuel efficient, but if we keep having to make new ones the energy savings are lost.
CVT's are cheaper, lighter, better fuel economy, and better acceleration. But less durability. A lot of the durability question depends on who is driving. I am a 63 year old male driving a 2008 Nissan Altima with a CVT approaching 200,000 miles, with no service. Transmission performs flawlessly.
The CVT failure rate is a bit overblown. There are millions upon millions of them on the road. 99.9% do just fine. Several thousand failures will explode the internet pretty quickly.
Plus it's very likely technicians are misdiagnosing problems as CVT problems. Lots of things can make the car feel like a CVT issue when it's a fuel delivery issue or intake issue. People see the RPM gauge go crazy, and just assume CVT failure and ditch the car cuz they're scared.
@@pedrofernandez8729 thats not true at all. Cars last longer today than ever before. And are lower maintenance than ever before. These are facts... The only difference is repairing them is much more complex when something does go wrong.
A TSB is the manufacturer trying to get consumers to pay for repairs that should be made free of charge through a recall. If you know of a problem FIX IT.
When Mitsubishi closed their American factory in 2016 , they should have done everyone a favor and left the market.
why? My mirage is made in thailand and for what it is its perfect. And japanese built cars are usually better than US built cars
Sounds like a lot of issues with Toyota vehicles
I don't get why manufacturers don't just publicly publish their own internal crash test data. Also since NHTSA apparently has access to the manufacturer data (because they oversee it), I don't understand why they can't publish it themselves. Prolly a bunch of legal stuff I don't understand. 😊
I don’t understand why the Congress just doesn’t simply extract whatever money is needed to conduct all tests directly from the manufacturers. If a manufacturer wants to sell a vehicle in the US, the government should go ahead and fully test it, and simply bill the maker for he costs off doing so. If they don’t pay that bill, they should be barred from selling any vehicles at all.
@@fordhouse8b
You don't understand because you are an idiot who thinks the US is the only country in the whole damn world and all government bureaucrats are as clean as a whistle.
If Toyota can do the test for $1 to get all the data needed to sell Corolla in 150 countries it will at least take $5000 if all government bureaucrats from 150 countries want to conduct their own in-house tests and God knows how much money is wasted for bribing the corrupted officials (they can fail a passable car if Toyota didn't put money in the right place you know)
It's the customers' money at the end of the day and I don't think the customers are stupid enough to pay for all the bureaucracy BS.
If that was a domestic manufacturer, people would scream bloody murder
Toyopet is invincible
Toyopet gets away with everything and anything
Why isn't Mitsubishi popular in the US anymore? Because their products aren't competitive. Simple. However, they are more popular in less competitive markets where you get get away with mediocre products.
Exactly.
It's just like high school - the girl is 10X as smart as the guys....
Well it's certainly true in your case, if you're in fact a Mr. Boy, because there's no such thing as being "10x as smart". It's "10x SMARTER THAN the guys". Or "half as smart". Or "just as smart".
Hi CR TC! I'm 'the' Will that posed that arteon vs stinger question. Super grateful for your thoughts :)
For Keith, I'll have to try Meule et Caquelon. Next time you come, I recommend l'oree du bois up in neighbouring Chelsea.
fr.oreeduboisrestaurant.com/
Prius too!!! Toyota sucks, for real. It's BS. They've (Toyota) has known about this for 10+ years in their hybrids. Consumer Reports is explaining this away without doing research on how long the gas tank problem has gone on for. CS is being VERY lazy here.
Uh ohhhhhh
Reason Mitsubishis aren’t big in the USA. Is because they’re complete garbage
Keith’s bad sound makes good video look bad.
"I called Toyota but they were not helpful" - translation: they didn't refund all my money and give me what I want. And it's amazing how people try to make up facts that make no sense: the car is still getting more miles PER GALLON than the non-hybrid. Be thankful you're healthy enough to go to a gas station.
It’s a known issue. If the gas tank can’t be filled properly or to the capacity as advertised, then consume have a right to know before buying.
What you are suggesting is total BS. Toyota is lying when it states one of their vehicles has a specified fuel tank capacity when its impossible to fill that tank to the stated capacity. Therefore they need to remedy this issue. Period!!! . End of story.
I know right... the unexpected reduced range was going to make you buy what instead, that gave same size, awd and economy??
@@williamking7420 its probably still filling up the tank. The gauges are probably tuned incorrectly or something and showing 3/4 when actually full. I've hear people driving 100 miles on E with Toyota hybrids.