Opinion question for you....I have a 12v tarp motor for my TL, but my rig is kinda heavy. The motor itself works fine, but after just a few seconds of testing, the ibt-2 temp spikes and it hits thermal shutdown (via infrared thermometer) and I have to shutdown and reset. I do have an extra ibt-2, and have read about wiring two ibt-2's together to control one motor, or should i just go with a little bigger/better motor driver? Great info as always D, keep up the good work!!!
Thanks for taking a look DGator72! I would check to see if there is thermal paste or thermal tape in between the heat sink and base of IBT.. there are two screws which hold on the IBT. Be sure the fan is blowing on the IBT fins.. A motor controller which i am going to get and test is the Sabertooth. I heard it was the best. Alternatively I have some JRK 12V12s on my shelf.. I have not tried them yet.. Heavy rig.. yeah I cannot lift mine myself.. How many motors are you using.. just the traction loss? Try this link on x-sim.. it's about motor controllers.. www.xsimulator.net/community/search/83823778/?q=motor+controllers&t=post&o=date
@@DMAX_DIY i did put thermal paste on and the case does have several fans for cooling. It is an adapted aluminum profile cockpit (OmegaGT) 3DOF with IBT's on the other 2 motors as well. I am really kinda curious about the dual controller thing. I think i will give it a go just to see, and if I crash and burn (no pun intended...lol) i will probably shell out for the sabertooth too. ...more to come.
@@dgator7251 Ok.. so the SABERTOOTH is supposed to be the BEST.. I want to get one in 2023 to test.. Maybe go with that ? It's like $100 bucks but if it's the best, then there you go.. I watched 6DegreesofFlight's videos and he uses the sabertooth 2x60 I think.. Dave
@@DMAX_DIY ...cautiously optimistic. So far, so good. The TL is actually working now with the two IBT's, no shutdowns so far on testing or in-game. Now i just need to refresh myself on actually dialing in the axis parameters and settings. Back to Xsim I go!👍
just upgraded my PC, lost all my simtools and smc3 settings, then revisit your videos. Really appreciate your tutorial, which gave me the confidence of making my 2 dof. Thanks Dmax!
For some reason only in assetto corsa, my rig tend to roll to the left when on a flat surface...even in virtual axis it drifts to the left but that's not the problem in other games, strange.
Thanks so much my friend! Yeah when I got a laptop same happened to me.. Actually had to take a look myself.. Glad they are 'archived' so that they can help out. Motion sims are well worth the time! Dave
Can't wait to start my project. I have to convert my shed into my racing room first. Hopefully by Summer '23 I'll be able to start building the sim rig. Thanks for the knowledge first off, but the videos are also entertaining. Glad I found your content✌🇻🇮
Very cool for you to give them a watch! I'm trying to build up a channel so when I retire I have something to do.. I'm on to the new project which is 3dof DIY compact motion sim.. On episode 6 now if you have time to look Dave
Thanks for watchin Christopher, Next video I will have those motors rockin and will be taking some amp readings.. It will be a couple weeks.. but hope you 'tune into the channel' Cheers.. Dave
Thanls Yaksnip.. I appreciate you watching.. hope to make some better videos now that I actually got a new laptop.. Windows "VISTA" has been holding me down.. hhaha
Hi, Great Tutorial. Maybe you can help me, if i run simtools game engine -> output testing -> Output type -> dof output, nothing happens on the axis. But if i choose (a) axis output, axis 1a and 2a can be controlled.
Good question my friend.. Yeah.. so when you set up simtools.. make sure you follow the instructions for setup.. axis 1a axis 2a etc.. and then 'save' the configuration.. maybe that is the issue.. I'll write a note to myself to go over this .. hopefully I will remember to do so in the next video.. Till then.. Keep pluggin away! Dave
Man that is a tough one for me.. I have done some 'coding' in C, Javascript, python and in the arduino IDE.. But I dont really like to code. So unless I get hit by a meteor or absolutely have to do it, probably not. Sorry, just being honest.. But arduino code is pretty easy.. I bet if you look at enough examples and probably go on line, you can get what you need out of it .. Dave
Hello, great videos, but I'm having problems with my motion rig. I've got it so far that I can control the motors in the smc3, but I can't test the output in simtools. I've already pressed save, but there's still no output on the axes
Ok, so if you can control the motion through SMC3 your probably just a click away from getting them to work on Simtools. be sure to shut down SMC3 or it will be using the comm port, Then start Simtools..go to interface settings and Set up the com port the same number as SMC3. 50000=b/s 8=data parity=none 1=stop bits and 10=output in Binary. [A][B] for the interface output Save it and Save it again as a Preset.. (name it whatever you want) Go to Axis assignments and set up pitch (up and down a hill) first.. set both motors (axis 1 and axis 2) about 30 percent (save the setting like I did in the video at 17:00 min.. Then test it out.. go to OUTPUT testing and Turn it on.. Try the Pitch Tab.. Let me know what happens .. Hope that gets you running.. Dave
@@DMAX_DIYI have now adopted all the settings, replaced the Arduino and an h bridge to be on the safe side. SMC3 works and can be controlled by both motors with motion settings. simtools has all the parameters as described in the device menu and by you. At the moment I really have no idea why it doesn't work. As soon as I click on output and move the controls, nothing happens. My drivers are all up to date and the latest versions are installed everywhere
@@DMAX_DIY I noticed that the rx lamp on the arduino lights up as soon as I test simtools output but the tx is not on. In smc3 the tx always lights up and the rx only lights up when the engine is running
@@sebastians5002 I'll take a look.. I've not noticed that before in any of the arduinos I've used.. I'll be testing this weekend Nov 12th 2023 (just to put a date on it).. I'll see if I find the same results.. Dave
Thanks again for the help, but I fixed the problem. Your solution solved my problem. The mistake was that I translated the page into German and achse and axis looked the same. I noticed that one of the motors lags a little. Can I somehow adjust how directly they record the signals?
just wondering in one of your videos you check gear ratio on motor and said it was 18 to 1, why did you need to know the gear ratio? I ask because on my sim, My motors start in the middle and go up and down, My motors over rotate on top and bottom.
A short answer is: I had purchased some 50:1 motors and they were great.. another buddy of mine purchased some 25:1 from the same mfg and he thought they did not have a lot of torque. So I decided to check these "unknown" motors to see what they were. Basically for one revolution of the crank, the motor would spin 18 times. So on my 50:1 motors (on my other rig) the motor would spin 50 x for every time the crank would move one revolution.. Although the crank doesnt move an entire revolution on a sim rig, the more times the motor can turn the better.. So if the crank moves 1/2 of a rotation on your sim rig (which is pretty good) you would get a lot more motor rotations out of a higher number.. I hope that makes sense..
Where is the .ino sketch file? The SMC3 utils contains only the .exe. The arduino sketch is mentioned three times in the xsimulator page, but there is no link.
Great question.. Not sure if I have the answer. Check on the xsimulator.net site.. maybe they have a plug in for water games.. not sure about that.. if they do, then your in luck.. Let me know DMAX
Hey Buddy. Wanted to comment/ask... I guess your using a dedicated PC config setup for purely racing. I do more than Racing in VR, I do Sim Pinball, MS Fl;ight Simulator (Yoke), etc.. So, getting setup / configured for Racing in VR always seems to be such a pain in the ass (Since not standalone for just Racing). Is it me or what's your opinion ? Using Quest 2, Steam, Sim Commander(complicated) Or SimHub, Thrustmaster steering wheel, Buttkicker - games AssettoCorsa -competizion, Automobilista 2, & Project Cars 2
Great question. I use the RIG computer for pretty much everything even video editing. But I finally got a laptop for video editing so I dont have to sit in the aluminum race seat in the garage, when it really warm outside. I do want to use the simulator for flying but only have a joystick so that doesnt seem very real to me. Need to outfit it with HOTAS or something. So my VR setup is the Rift which has one camera sitting on a chair in front of the rig. actually doesnt take me more than a minute to put on the headset and go to the virtual desktop. But yes.. taking it off and putting it on to MAP keys or reply to things is what it is.. There is a guy in Australia who made a sim rig, which converts to HOTAS and things very easily.. I'll find the link for you. Could give you some ideas.. In fact, I did base my rig off of his in some ways.. Ok it took some digging but AVENGA76 is the guy on x-simulator.net he posted his project and details and some videos. You may have to scroll through (I read all his stuff pretty much before starting my project) Let me know www.xsimulator.net/community/threads/my-3-dof-seat-mover-gs-4-simvibe.5596/
@@DMAX_DIY So do you have or know of some easy Macro/profile way to make all the layers happen easily? Using a Quest 2, so there is the Oculus layer, Steam VR layer, Simhub / sim commander... There might be some script or automated way to get everything up and running with a click. Will work on the above and digest it some more.
@@WilsonBradleyTheOfficial not sure Wilson.. i have the CV1 so I go to Oculus home and then click the controller to virtual desktop.. then that's it.. i can access everything in VR that I would see on my desktop using a mouse or trackball in the VR space..
Well.. If your using the IBT'2's You probably need to change it to mode 2.. It's easy.. just open the arduino file and change it to mode 2.. there you go.. It' might not work elsewise.. But if you have different motor controllers they would probably work on mode 1
Well, good question.. So 24 volts is twice the power of 12v.. although my experience with the 12v wipers were not all that great, I would imagine it would work better with a seatmover than the 12v wipers I used..
helloo brother,,, my problem is the motor does not move when it comes to Live for speed.. Simtools engine and Manager is Game running,, not moving motor
Unfortunately, I am making a video (step by step) to get live for speed running with simtools after you get the SMC3 working.. I am editing it but it's not ready to post yet.. So you are able to move the motors in SMC3? if so, your very close.. be sure to download and install the plug in for Live for speed (drag and drop using the plug in updator) th-cam.com/video/QYzV9ler328/w-d-xo.html
hi dmax I'm using 24v wheelchair motors I've configured it like yours, it works perfect without weight in the chair, I'm using 24v 70a power supply, as if it was going well suddenly it collapses
Opinion question for you....I have a 12v tarp motor for my TL, but my rig is kinda heavy. The motor itself works fine, but after just a few seconds of testing, the ibt-2 temp spikes and it hits thermal shutdown (via infrared thermometer) and I have to shutdown and reset. I do have an extra ibt-2, and have read about wiring two ibt-2's together to control one motor, or should i just go with a little bigger/better motor driver? Great info as always D, keep up the good work!!!
Thanks for taking a look DGator72! I would check to see if there is thermal paste or thermal tape in between the heat sink and base of IBT.. there are two screws which hold on the IBT. Be sure the fan is blowing on the IBT fins.. A motor controller which i am going to get and test is the Sabertooth. I heard it was the best. Alternatively I have some JRK 12V12s on my shelf.. I have not tried them yet.. Heavy rig.. yeah I cannot lift mine myself.. How many motors are you using.. just the traction loss? Try this link on x-sim.. it's about motor controllers.. www.xsimulator.net/community/search/83823778/?q=motor+controllers&t=post&o=date
@@DMAX_DIY i did put thermal paste on and the case does have several fans for cooling. It is an adapted aluminum profile cockpit (OmegaGT) 3DOF with IBT's on the other 2 motors as well. I am really kinda curious about the dual controller thing. I think i will give it a go just to see, and if I crash and burn (no pun intended...lol) i will probably shell out for the sabertooth too. ...more to come.
@@dgator7251 Ok.. so the SABERTOOTH is supposed to be the BEST.. I want to get one in 2023 to test.. Maybe go with that ? It's like $100 bucks but if it's the best, then there you go.. I watched 6DegreesofFlight's videos and he uses the sabertooth 2x60 I think.. Dave
@@DMAX_DIY I actually (finally) got a chance to parallel two IBT-2'S and hopefully will get to debug and test this weekend.
@@DMAX_DIY ...cautiously optimistic. So far, so good. The TL is actually working now with the two IBT's, no shutdowns so far on testing or in-game. Now i just need to refresh myself on actually dialing in the axis parameters and settings. Back to Xsim I go!👍
Helloo brother,, I saw that problem,, thankyou so much,, is working
just upgraded my PC, lost all my simtools and smc3 settings, then revisit your videos. Really appreciate your tutorial, which gave me the confidence of making my 2 dof. Thanks Dmax!
For some reason only in assetto corsa, my rig tend to roll to the left when on a flat surface...even in virtual axis it drifts to the left
but that's not the problem in other games, strange.
Thanks so much my friend! Yeah when I got a laptop same happened to me.. Actually had to take a look myself.. Glad they are 'archived' so that they can help out. Motion sims are well worth the time! Dave
Awesome! Particularly love the dry humor and the birds 😆 Keep it up, D Max!
Keep it 'dry' that's my motto.. Thanks B!
Good Stuff Dave , Thanks for this. Always enjoy a little Professor Dmax
Thanks RacerXtc ! It's coming along.. just need to start moving those motors inboard.. Dave
Can't wait to start my project. I have to convert my shed into my racing room first. Hopefully by Summer '23 I'll be able to start building the sim rig. Thanks for the knowledge first off, but the videos are also entertaining. Glad I found your content✌🇻🇮
Very cool for you to give them a watch! I'm trying to build up a channel so when I retire I have something to do.. I'm on to the new project which is 3dof DIY compact motion sim.. On episode 6 now if you have time to look Dave
Thanks!
Thanks my friend! Hope it helps and thanks for the Super Thanks! Very cool of you! Dave
Thanks brother for the info.. Owe you a few beers if passing through beautiful Colorado Springs.
Thanks Wilson.. My little brother lives up in Eagle.. * in the mountains * Love Co Springs myself.. Your a lucky guy! Dave
@@DMAX_DIY Thanks.. Relocated the family from Austin, Tx (Grew up there) - Loving it here, it's just not as Techie here..
@@WilsonBradleyTheOfficial Yeah.. Colorado is pretty cool.. I almost moved there to Boulder a long time ago.. but ended up going somewhere else..
Hi D Max from uk just got to the ELC part i have the same motors as you Thank you keep it up
Thanks for watchin Christopher, Next video I will have those motors rockin and will be taking some amp readings.. It will be a couple weeks.. but hope you 'tune into the channel' Cheers.. Dave
very cool once again Mr D love it
Thanls Yaksnip.. I appreciate you watching.. hope to make some better videos now that I actually got a new laptop.. Windows "VISTA" has been holding me down.. hhaha
excellent work
Thanks my friend!
Nice video D thanks Brother!
Too cool my friend! Thanks for taking a look!! Dave
Hi,
Great Tutorial. Maybe you can help me, if i run simtools game engine -> output testing -> Output type -> dof output, nothing happens on the axis. But if i choose (a) axis output, axis 1a and 2a can be controlled.
Good question my friend.. Yeah.. so when you set up simtools.. make sure you follow the instructions for setup.. axis 1a axis 2a etc.. and then 'save' the configuration.. maybe that is the issue.. I'll write a note to myself to go over this .. hopefully I will remember to do so in the next video.. Till then.. Keep pluggin away! Dave
@@DMAX_DIYThanks for your Answer, it works now. Can you make a Tutorial, how to setup simtools V3?
What driver are u using for that motor sir??
can you do a video on how to rewrite the code to use rotary encoders instead of pot's?
Man that is a tough one for me.. I have done some 'coding' in C, Javascript, python and in the arduino IDE.. But I dont really like to code. So unless I get hit by a meteor or absolutely have to do it, probably not. Sorry, just being honest.. But arduino code is pretty easy.. I bet if you look at enough examples and probably go on line, you can get what you need out of it .. Dave
Hello, great videos, but I'm having problems with my motion rig. I've got it so far that I can control the motors in the smc3, but I can't test the output in simtools. I've already pressed save, but there's still no output on the axes
Ok, so if you can control the motion through SMC3 your probably just a click away from getting them to work on Simtools. be sure to shut down SMC3 or it will be using the comm port, Then start Simtools..go to interface settings and Set up the com port the same number as SMC3. 50000=b/s 8=data parity=none 1=stop bits and 10=output in Binary.
[A][B] for the interface output
Save it and Save it again as a Preset.. (name it whatever you want)
Go to Axis assignments and set up pitch (up and down a hill) first.. set both motors (axis 1 and axis 2) about 30 percent (save the setting like I did in the video at 17:00 min..
Then test it out..
go to OUTPUT testing and Turn it on.. Try the Pitch Tab..
Let me know what happens .. Hope that gets you running.. Dave
@@DMAX_DIYI have now adopted all the settings, replaced the Arduino and an h bridge to be on the safe side. SMC3 works and can be controlled by both motors with motion settings. simtools has all the parameters as described in the device menu and by you. At the moment I really have no idea why it doesn't work. As soon as I click on output and move the controls, nothing happens. My drivers are all up to date and the latest versions are installed everywhere
@@DMAX_DIY I noticed that the rx lamp on the arduino lights up as soon as I test simtools output but the tx is not on. In smc3 the tx always lights up and the rx only lights up when the engine is running
@@sebastians5002 I'll take a look.. I've not noticed that before in any of the arduinos I've used.. I'll be testing this weekend Nov 12th 2023 (just to put a date on it).. I'll see if I find the same results.. Dave
Thanks again for the help, but I fixed the problem. Your solution solved my problem. The mistake was that I translated the page into German and achse and axis looked the same. I noticed that one of the motors lags a little. Can I somehow adjust how directly they record the signals?
just wondering in one of your videos you check gear ratio on motor and said it was 18 to 1, why did you need to know the gear ratio? I ask because on my sim, My motors start in the middle and go up and down, My motors over rotate on top and bottom.
A short answer is: I had purchased some 50:1 motors and they were great.. another buddy of mine purchased some 25:1 from the same mfg and he thought they did not have a lot of torque. So I decided to check these "unknown" motors to see what they were. Basically for one revolution of the crank, the motor would spin 18 times. So on my 50:1 motors (on my other rig) the motor would spin 50 x for every time the crank would move one revolution.. Although the crank doesnt move an entire revolution on a sim rig, the more times the motor can turn the better.. So if the crank moves 1/2 of a rotation on your sim rig (which is pretty good) you would get a lot more motor rotations out of a higher number.. I hope that makes sense..
I am waiting for your video.
Please wait it's coming up in this new series..
Where is the .ino sketch file? The SMC3 utils contains only the .exe. The arduino sketch is mentioned three times in the xsimulator page, but there is no link.
Hi, what is problem my 2 dof its only roll, even I slide pitch roll then too
Hi sir, please make a video.
How to connect 2dof motion platform with VR video's and water slider games . Please sir,
Great question.. Not sure if I have the answer. Check on the xsimulator.net site.. maybe they have a plug in for water games.. not sure about that.. if they do, then your in luck.. Let me know DMAX
Hey Buddy. Wanted to comment/ask... I guess your using a dedicated PC config setup for purely racing. I do more than Racing in VR, I do Sim Pinball, MS Fl;ight Simulator (Yoke), etc.. So, getting setup / configured for Racing in VR always seems to be such a pain in the ass (Since not standalone for just Racing). Is it me or what's your opinion ?
Using Quest 2, Steam, Sim Commander(complicated) Or SimHub, Thrustmaster steering wheel, Buttkicker - games AssettoCorsa -competizion, Automobilista 2, & Project Cars 2
Great question. I use the RIG computer for pretty much everything even video editing. But I finally got a laptop for video editing so I dont have to sit in the aluminum race seat in the garage, when it really warm outside. I do want to use the simulator for flying but only have a joystick so that doesnt seem very real to me. Need to outfit it with HOTAS or something. So my VR setup is the Rift which has one camera sitting on a chair in front of the rig. actually doesnt take me more than a minute to put on the headset and go to the virtual desktop. But yes.. taking it off and putting it on to MAP keys or reply to things is what it is.. There is a guy in Australia who made a sim rig, which converts to HOTAS and things very easily.. I'll find the link for you. Could give you some ideas.. In fact, I did base my rig off of his in some ways.. Ok it took some digging but AVENGA76 is the guy on x-simulator.net he posted his project and details and some videos. You may have to scroll through (I read all his stuff pretty much before starting my project) Let me know www.xsimulator.net/community/threads/my-3-dof-seat-mover-gs-4-simvibe.5596/
@@DMAX_DIY Heya sent ya an email to video2go at comcast
@@DMAX_DIY So do you have or know of some easy Macro/profile way to make all the layers happen easily? Using a Quest 2, so there is the Oculus layer, Steam VR layer, Simhub / sim commander... There might be some script or automated way to get everything up and running with a click. Will work on the above and digest it some more.
@@WilsonBradleyTheOfficial not sure Wilson.. i have the CV1 so I go to Oculus home and then click the controller to virtual desktop.. then that's it.. i can access everything in VR that I would see on my desktop using a mouse or trackball in the VR space..
@@WilsonBradleyTheOfficial i'll check it.. been a long time since I've checked that email.. gimme a couple days to remember my password.. haha.
hi D max can i use 24v 20amps with the same INO file,without changing anything.am using MODE 1.THANKS
Well.. If your using the IBT'2's You probably need to change it to mode 2..
It's easy.. just open the arduino file and change it to mode 2.. there you go.. It' might not work elsewise.. But if you have different motor controllers they would probably work on mode 1
Thanks its help alot.
gudmorning brother,, i have question,, Can 24volt wiper?
Well, good question.. So 24 volts is twice the power of 12v.. although my experience with the 12v wipers were not all that great, I would imagine it would work better with a seatmover than the 12v wipers I used..
helloo brother,,, my problem is the motor does not move when it comes to Live for speed..
Simtools engine and Manager is Game running,, not moving motor
Unfortunately, I am making a video (step by step) to get live for speed running with simtools after you get the SMC3 working.. I am editing it but it's not ready to post yet.. So you are able to move the motors in SMC3? if so, your very close.. be sure to download and install the plug in for Live for speed (drag and drop using the plug in updator) th-cam.com/video/QYzV9ler328/w-d-xo.html
@@DMAX_DIY thankyou brother Im waiting,,,
hello DMax, you mentioned there is a free game plugin (for need for speed), is it still available I can't seams to find it, how can I get it plz
yes the live for speed plug in is available on x simulator .net.. i'll be going over it this month hopefully.. so everyone can see where it is..dave
@@DMAX_DIY tnx Dmax i find a way to buy the unlimited download package, now I'm just waiting until I have all the material I need to build one
my engine loses power and falls when I sit on the seat, can someone help me
What motor are you running? what voltage 24 or 12? what is it's ratio?
hi dmax I'm using 24v wheelchair motors I've configured it like yours, it works perfect without weight in the chair, I'm using 24v 70a power supply, as if it was going well suddenly it collapses
sorry for the english, i'm brazilian i use google translator
Ratio is 32:1
@@beninitur7018 Ok.. Do you have a fan blowing on the IBT's? I have never run them except on a basic test without the fan..
Love building Sim Rigs...Cool Video DMAX!!..My next Rig's up and working...Hit my name if you want to check it out...
Fantastic! I'm clicking on your site now..
Yeah.. now that's a cool project!!
Thanks!
Very cool Steadman ! Thanks so much! I'll put in into the channel my friend! Dave
Thanks!
Thanks Adrian! Thanks so much! I'll put in into the channel my friend! Dave