ULTRAMARINES ft. Luetin: ULTRADEPRESSION, SPACE MARINE 2, TABLETOP VS LORE | Warhammer 40k
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Special guest @Luetin09
In this episode Luetin of the Luetin09 fame joins the boys to talk about Ultramarines & their history, Calgar, disconnect between lore and tabletop, opinions on Space Marine 2, and how it brought new and old fans back into Warhammer 40k.
*_Lore for the lore god._*
*_Books for his throne._*
*_Let the galaxy learn._*
*TZEETCH CULTIST SPOTTED*
*speaks into Vox* I have found them brother… Bring the flamer.
Tzeentch when he is feeling lazy and just decides to rip off khorne's dogma but give it his own flare
Let the galaxy learn does sound kinda cool
Spoiler alert!
The galaxy didnt learn
Ladies and gentlemen, we got the lore master Luetin!
Now we just need amber king and baldermort to come on
HAIL THE LOREMASTER 🎉🎉🎉
😪😪😪 SLEEP GANG UNITES
Anyone else remember when he was a Battlefield youtuber with like Jackfrags and LevelCap?
Loremaster Lutin the Librarian
The REAL LOREMASTER of WH40K!
Forget that Fascist Four-Tuna guy who has an FB page for his right-wing sycophants, slandered Bricky, called other Fan pages as "Soy" and used a dying man for his sinister plan to get voted last year as an "Influencer of 40k".
I genuinely really appreciate Leutin's approach of taking the lore "with a modicum of seriousness" as he puts it. 40k's writing is so often blindly written off as dumb and bombastic that the parts of it that are genuinely very well-written and logical are never considered. Its part of the reason that meme-interpretations of factions become so prevalent that people start to believe they are completely accurate.
That is what I love Luetin for the most, and rank him as no1 for me
Sadly i think this is due to politics.
Theres like that 0,01% of 40k fans that unironically like the more opressive side of the Imperium, so then the other 99,99% of fans overreact by treating it all like a massive satire thts just there to be silly, and while the memes are good, alot of nuance and interesting serious lore is lost because no one wants to be seen taking 40k too seriously. Wich is sad, because we all grew up seeing people acuse every game of being satanic, or seeing people get bullied for being too nerdy.
Taking lore seriously and getting super into it shouldnt have any stigma to it. And i love Luetins vids for it
Honestly the memes is what made me hate the Orks
Zoomer humor is atrocious (90% of this podcast) Leutin keeps it real
@@aloaloings5596AdRic directly advertises itself as a podcast that focuses on entertainment over accuracy. If people take everything they say as the objective truth thats their own fault.
Imagine if Depressed Calgar had been in Space Marine 2.
Stepping off the ramp looking like a retail employee called into work on his day off
Trudging through Chaos with his eyes half-open, reflexively shooting them.
Walks up to Titus and goes, "What"
MOOD KINDRED
"Lord Calgar!"
". . what do you want."
God I’m glad they got over that storyline relatively quickly lol.
Or tts Calgar walks up screams at Titus and punches leandros.
finaly after 10k years he is here, we march for macrage
And we know no fear!
Robot Grugruman, Lord of McRage.
We float for Maccrage!
Smurfs
Honestly I have never seen the whole "They are SUPER codex compliant and kinda boyscouts" as a bad thing.
When every other chapter around you is something unique, being "vannila" yourself is in of itself is being unique.
That's like hating on superman for being just a generaly good guy when you looks at him on the surface compared to other heroes.
Just an alien who grew up in a loving family and wanted to do good to others.
It's important to have a "default" so you can contrast the other chapters against them to see how weird they really are.
People wouldnt care about it if the lore would give others some shine more often. Like when was the lastime that the White Scars or Salamanders got to be relevent?
@@TheKnizzinedude, my Sallys. 😢 Not cool.
it's not about them being vanilla, it's about the ice cream parlor trying to shove vanilla in your face constantly like it's the only flavor you should care about
@@TheKnizzine in general? White scars have been appearing more in books. Josh Reynolds have been putting em more in stories. And salamanders have been getting some love with the recent animations from gw. I'd say chapters part of the original legions that could use some more attention is iron hands and maybe raven guard. But that's just the loyalists. That's not even going into the chaos war bands or non ultramarine successors.
My favourite bit in TTS is that the Emperor jumps to the "ugh, blueberries" conclusion and tries to send them off on impossible suicide missions - which they absolutely flex on, 'cos they _really are that good_.
“HOW IN THE ACTUAL FUCK”
My favorite part is how the regular Ultramarines are very eager to serve but are called assholes by everyone else
*begins the Ultramarines Chant!*
When everyone is a snowflake, I'm glad we have vanilla boyscouts - thank you rowboat girlyman for SETTING the STANDARD
And after a point he just genuinely gets tired of shitting on them.
Let’s be honest, UMs were gonna be the poster boys for 40k no matter what.
When you want a blank slate as a starting point for fans to make their own characters/chapters, most of the loyalist legions simply have too much baggage. The ones with gene flaws are defined by them in a way that, while awesome, can’t be ignored when making your own; while Templars and iron hands have a… distinct culture and aesthetic that’s limiting as well. And yellow is a nightmare to paint, so the fists are out.
One thing Leutin almost touched on about the censure of Sergeant Thiel, all Ultramarine Sergeants now paint their helmets red in his honor for his foresight. Glad to finally see some Ultramarine love.
I think I actually said that lol, it must have got cut in the edit ... SHY
@Luetin09 well then all is forgiven. Except for SHY.
>Just wait till you see what Erebus does in the End and the Death.
They *just* read Horus Rising, they read betrayer, and somehow they are in no way prepared for the levels of fuckery that Erebus can sink to.
YEAAAAAAH. LETS GOOOOOOOOO!!! (I'm probably still joining the "Lutein sleep club" 15 minutes into the video)
Even in sleep, my watchtime still serves
YUSSSS LUETIN SLEEP CREW!!
Luitein sleep club on top 🔝
They keep slamming on Heresy Guilliman, I really wish they would read Know No Fear and get to see Guilliman at his peak
Yeah annoying they talk shit about OG Gman when they haven't even read his best books
The conversation on what you guys said of what space marines should be featured in the next game got me thinking.
They should set up space marine 3's campaign was set up in a way similar to 2000's call of duty or gears of war 3 was set up narratively. In that, you do the 3 player coop campaign, just switching from different perspectives between chapters in one overarching campaign.
Imagine if you start out as crimson fist holding out against big incursion of orks of seemingly innumerable numbers. Then, switching to white scars on a vehicle bike section. Getting rid of vehicles and boarding, then destroying seige weaponry. Then going to blood angels for a counter offensive and killing where they think the war boss is at and committing a *bloody* surgical strike to him.
Would be a very awesome concept if executed properly.
They should make it the war for Armageddon
@@israelgarcia8859 I would see that as a flashback DLC. Indomnitus crusade seems to be gws focus
Luetin as Blueberry Dante is an inspred choice. Excellent crossovers recently.
Blueberry Dante?
Wtf are you talking about. Get rid of this dumb comment
This is such a banger episode!! Can’t wait for PancreasNoWork to come on next to have some crazy Eldar discussions!!!
True, would be a banger
It’s just bricky holding them at gunpoint making them talk bad about the knife ears
@@johnb3587 if anyone is holding someone at gun point, than its Shy😂
You say that as if our Insulin Lord wouldn't like that
I mean, you have Lorecrimes if you want PancreasNoWork on a Warhammer 40k podcast.
I really vibe with Luetins take on the Ultramarines. Any other chapter would go into a suicidal crusade to redeem themselves, like half the damn Primarchs did. But the Ultramarines just exist in the setting, they didnt all go off into the warp to kill every last traitor, they remained, grew, worked with other chapters, and overall became better and better marines, they redeemed themselves by doing their job instead of going into an emotion driven revenje plot
So much so that it doesnt define them, they arent known as the redemption seeking guys, its there for sure, but its subtle, at most you find it in a banner and you can infer it, and thats the best part imo. They are that dependable friend who is going trough some shit but isnt making his whole personality about it, he looks and acts like a nice good person even when shit is going down.
Oh oh another tiny detail that could reinforce this idea, the Ultramarines might look too samey to actually have the sort of emotional flaws that other factions have, but when Guilliman met them, they were deeply ashamed of losing a war against a specific Xenos race, Guilliman prioritised planning and defeating that species ASAP, because he knew the legion was underperforming due to the stress and shame of that defeat. So it adds this little aspect, that the Ultramarines arent just straight and reliable because they are just built dfifferent, it is because they manage their flaws and emotions, theres clearly effort put into them being reliable and stable, they visit Ultramar on their spare time, etc etc. They become more human with details like these.
7:26
Trilogy??????
BRICKY.....VENTRIS HAS 7 BOOKS
Bricky believe that being in the warp kills you, despite reading a book saying otherwise. You believe he would remember?
Love you guys 💙
Edit: and the Battle Sister VR game is fun! Felt like a spiritual successor to space marine
I agree, wish I could get the faith abilities in the last bastion mode though.
Good. Something had to. SMs own successor is a travesty of gameplay. Can't believe it actually turned out this bad...
Having a relatively surface-level understanding of things, I generally think of the Ultramarines as the chapter that cares about more than fighting, in a way to compare-and-contrast with the Salamanders. The Salamanders have a philosophy of self-sufficiency, every brother a craftsman, while the Ultramarines are about structure and governance, ruling hundreds of planets in Ultramar.
Alpha Legion would make a great focus for a video game - so many possible cool mechanics, Metal Gear but Warhammer
That sort of infiltration is more Raven Guard's shtick.
Alpha legion would run somewhere akin to the hitman series
@@chronovacRaven guard they are flankers the aplha legion are the metal gear fans.
A recent Alpha Legion story had a Chaos Alpha Legionnaire musing that he's heard rumors of loyalist Alpha Legionaries still fighting for the Imperium in the shadows. Would be interesting!
@@chronovacNot exclusive though. Also Alpha Legion perspective is infinitely more interesting than the goth cardboard personality legion
The Man, The Myth The Luetin.
hell ye Dick Hay DaMantis, Briggey, Shiy and Looting. best day ever
Briggey Orkoid Aight, Qooite Shiy, and Looting Zoo Neen :p
Nice Guest invite for this. Luetin is practically the best lorekeeper on TH-cam.
I only say "practically" because in my opinion he's second only to Bladermort. But I like stories slightly more than i like dissertative Lore (but I do love Luetin's delivery, because it sticks when he says it. He's great for my mnemonic devices)
Baldermort, but it's ok. I am not such a big fan anyway.
Honestly I would put Oculus Imperia up there as well
I really love the meta-lore aspect that Arbitor Ian brings
While I've mostly gotten over it now, I did have a huge axe to grind with him over his defense of Dawn of War 3 in regards to lore and such, but despite that yeah he's def top tier
Aint no way you called my man Bladermort
The Lore Master is in the house!
Ayy y'all's finally did a Ultramarine legion lore
Edit: I was wrong, justs talk about the Ultramarines now.
I wish they had isyander & Koda for another episode
Another, there was a first?
@@woaddragon sorry I miss spoke
Still though, I'd be so down
Isyander is the more knowledgeable one, so he fits more into that collab.
But yes, both of them in it would result in a really good episode.
Yes please!
White scars MENTIONED!!!!
The chapter I'd pick is the Blood Ravens. I demand a return of the video game chapter! NONE SHALL FIND US WANTING!
...We also got more relics to steal.
I'd settle for even just cameos with their original voice actors. Gabriel Angelos and Sergeant Tarkus have some of the coolest voices in the setting imo
I thought what happend to the tyranids at the middle part of SM2 was Team B killing the Hive Tyrant which shorted out the other nids like we have seen what happens when we kill Tyranid warriors surrounded by hormagaunts
That's what happened with the majority on the surface but the rest of the Tyranids in orbit would still be alive at least, it would just take a while for it to create a new Hive Tyrant to coordinate the ground forces. So just some off-hand comment about how the Tyranids were becoming stalled enough for them to be able to deal with Imurah would have been appreciated.
@collecter343 tho I thought the Hive fleets got destroyed when we turned the canons back on
God Luetin was such a good addition to the podcast, you guys gotta do more episodes with him ASAP!
The collab more unlikely than a space marine trusting a tau.
Luetin said he'd be brief on why he likes Ultramarines....I was expecting two sentences.
well on his videos he does admit his "slight tangents" last over half his runtime.
Been enjoying Luetin a lot this year, so happy to see the crossover. I also really appreciate Bricky's point about needing the Ultramarines as a baseline. I've been collecting Space Wolves since 3rd ed, and half of the fun of them is comparing their weirdness to the idealized Space Marine that the boys in blue represent. I also feel some solidarity for them as a fan of a faction whose reputation has been marred by tired memes and shallow jokes. Even if they aren't my favorite space marines, I still enjoy hearing that they are someone's favorite.
LUETIN! THANK YOU FOR BEING HERE, ALWAYS AWESOME!!!
And now, back to SM2 PvP
I can NOT wait for the dwarf episode. Khazukan Kazakit-Ha! Baruk Khazâd, Khazâd ai-mênu! Strike the earth! Rock and stone!
Also DK you better talk about chaos dwarves too
28:09 That Target exclusive "Space Marine: The Board Game" with the Titus mini will definitely help. Only $40 and you get a character and twenty termagants. The first game personally led me into buying GW miniatures. ...and this podcast led me into collecting Night Lords!
Calgar actually have a trilogy (two books so far, but still). They are some of the best Black Library books I've read. Especially the first one, Calgars Siege
Another awesome episode. Thanks again for more wonderful 40k lore and fun
My favorite thing about that sergeant that got censored is that after the Heresy and him being proven right the Ultramarine sergeants all wear red helmets in honor to him
"What about people getting back into the Warhammer"I played 2nd to 5th editions and have a Dark Angels, 30, now illegal, Terminators and 20, probably illegal, tactical, 10, probably illegal, metal devastators, and 10, probably illegal, metal scouts, a Razorback (is that still even a thing?) and a Land Raider.
My Nids are probably still all legal but none of them are painted . . . and most of them don't have arms . . . and non of the even have a base coat . . . and the metal Hive Tyrant NEVER didn't fall in 2. I think GW now has rules that I wouldn't be allowed to play in the store anymore.
official stores sure, and even then it prolly depends!~
Playing in official stores is mid in my opinion anyways find an lgs with custom terrain and have fun with legends and printed models about half my over 2k points of nids is printed and ive never gotten any slack even when playing in an official gw store
Sure, those models are old, but actually, all of them are currently playable units. Thow them on slightly larger bases, and you're good to go.
Black Templars are my favorite chapter because they were forged during the Siege of Terra, they are the Imperium's Trauma made manifest, now that Luetin's explained the "Our presence remakes the past" motto Ultramarines are now my second favorite chapter, love the idea that they live in the shadow of the Siege and are trying to make up for not being there in the present.
My favorite two things to listen to while I sleep combined. I'm sleeping good tonight.o
Luetin sounding like a narrator even when doing a pot cast is exactly how i imagine it would go.
Given that Bobby is the only one who's come back.I think it's appropriate that his theme song should be.I'm still standing.
It's been a long time since i last watched this channel... glad to see you lot are still going strong and that shy hasn't horus'd you two out of existence 😂
I can't hear Tigurius without hearing Baldermort's voice saying "Tiggy".
I think the reason Sabre Interactive (the devs) chose the UM as the focus of Space Marine 2 over other chapter was to continue the story of the first one, which ended on a cliffhanger that left several fans had been waiting for almost two decades.
And these old-ish players did not know if the was even to be a sequel to begin with.
The old studio (Relic) had changed staff and moved to other projects and the old publisher (the original THQ) had been shut down with their IPs / licences sold off to other companies, so during all these years the future of the Space Marine series was really grindark and unknown.
The Calgar comic was actually really cool.
"I was on this planet 600 years ago, over there is a good place for defenses, Bill."
"I'm Frank, Bill was my great, great grandfather."
"Sorry Bill, I couldn't be bothered to look down enough to see your face."
Thiel is a fun story. He basically brought a PowerPoint presentation to school on how he would brutally murder the teacher if the teacher attacked him. The teach sat him in a corner and gave him a dunce cap (red helmet). Then before meeting the principal the school was assaulted by terrorist and Thiel proceeds to demonstrate the practical to his theoretical to great effect. And the principal (g-man) makes his presentation assigned reading to the survivors of the class.
Im afraid I'm finally caving in. I listened to this podcast for 3 years, resisting. But, now i have my first mini. Painting is the last thing that could save my wallet by being unbearable, but aside from that... may the Emperor have mercy.
Good luck, have fun! There's ways to do the building/painting part on a budget, GW stores have a Free Mini of the Month (while supplies last). Some hobby groups and shops also host paint days and swap meets.
Very nice! Which model?
@Jormyyy Just a regular marine captain. I like the Fists, so I'll try to do that.
@@danielkrejcar9104 hell yea nice! Enjoy it!
As somebody who has been addicted to warhammer for only 8 months, thanks to bricky. The most frustrating thing is getting book I k ow there are a ton over 300, but please keep them current for a few years please
You guys forget that trators join deathwatch for redemption and their connections with inquisition, so many great story potentials
Ok hear me out Remember Battlefield V story mode? OK NOW PUT IT IN SPACE MARINE GAME SPINOFF LIKE 8 STORIES OF THE PRINCIPAL CHAPTERS
I agree with the general consensus re Deathwatch, plus it's reasonable in-lore to have 3 marines kicking face
The Ultramarines tagline "Our Presence Remakes the Past" is interesting, because it can also be read another way. The Ultramarines, and Guilliman, can be seen as a force of Revisionism in the Imperium.
Even as early as the Great Crusade, Ultramar was a model for what the Imperium offered humanity. Stable, prosperous, well-run, and based on enlightened values. But of course, _not everywhere in the Imperium is Ultramar, and not everyone got the mercy of being brought into compliance by the Ultramarines._ For every world brought into the Imperial fold through diplomacy by Guilliman and his Legion, a hundred others were forced in by the likes of Angron, Conrad Curze, Perturabo, even the pre-Sanguinius Blood Angels. For every well-run and stable Imperial domain, there's a hundred others crushed beneath the boots of pitiless conquerors. Their surviving populations stripped of their culture, self-determination, homes, and freedoms; enslaved in hideous manufactora that blighted their already ravaged worlds, to fuel the Imperium's endless wars of conquest. Their siblings, parents, friends, and children taken to serve in the Emperor's inexhaustible armies.
Ultramar was a pocket of reasonable governorship, in a sea of military despotism, violence, and exploitation. But when the Great Crusade neared its end, the Imperium was all too willing to hold Guilliman's realm and Legion as models for what the Imperium was like. The very presence of the Ultramarines erased the Imperium's sins.
When Guilliman appeared in the 42nd millennium, he never reckons with this disconnect. Never confronts the evils the Imperium committed in his own time - often committed by _he himself_ - in pursuit of domination. Never comes to terms with the Imperium as an unjust Fascist regime, _even under the Emperor._ Instead, he insists that the Imperium's problems are an aberration, a product of the Emperor's subjects failing to realize his vision. Rather than the logical endpoint of the Emperor's whole Great Crusade.
Guilliman's presence remakes the past. He is historical revisionism of the Imperium's fundamental flaws, and the atrocities integral to its very foundation. A dark genesis he cannot acknowledge, blinded as he is by rose-tinted glasses and his far removal from the lives of the common people outside his sphere who suffered to make the Imperium happen.
Idk Guilliman is fully aware of the atrocities committed during the crusade. In one of the books since his return he ruminates on how he argued with the emperor that more peaceful routes could be taken but the emperor always dissuaded him saying the violence of the crusade was a necessary sacrifice for the peace and prosperity they were going to achieve when it was over.
The problem is Guilliman believed the lie and coming into the current imperium he is incredibly frustrated that instead of a peaceful prosperous enlightened society the imperium became what it is. The sacrifices and evils he participated in continued and everything just sort of spiraled downward.
The bitter pill being the promise for humanities future never came true and all those “sacrifices” for it resulted in something much worse.
I think the reason he seems to have such rose tinted glasses for the crusade at times is because there was still hope for that future then. He could believe the emperor knew what he was doing and would ultimately achieve that goal for humanity. While now the emperor was proven wrong a broken man dying on a throne worshipped as a god. Humanity slowly falling apart and everything rests on Guillimans shoulders now. There is no hope for that future the only thing he can hope to do is buy humanity more time.
As a long-suffering Deathwatch player, thank you for giving our struggling faction a bit of a spotlight here. That was really nice :)
We need a "Girlyman's mom" poster now for Leutin.
I was watching a dev interview the other day and the reason the nids aren't completely delt with is because that's what they plan to do in the coming operations mission, the dev said with the hive tyrant dead the hive ship destroyed and chaos stopped Titus was finished with the planets but the 2nd company isn't and will be remaining behind to clean up while Titus goes with Calgar and leandros to his next mission
Bricky: “HERE ME OUT. WOLFENSTEIN - BUT WITH SISTERS OF BATTLE.”
As someone who started playing in 3rd edition: Space marine 2 certainly drew me back even more.
23:30 There was a PS3 CO-OP game like that already. You play as a pair, an old human and an a female elf, where the human is the one that plays like a warrior with Sword and Shield with a back-up crossbow and the elf used mostly bows that fired so fast they were basically guns with backup dual swords. The point of the game was to kill some dude possessed by a silver liquid and at the end, if you drank said silver liquid, the one with the most kills ends up becoming possessed and kills the other one.
32:27 I think part of the reason 40k has a lot of difficulty getting "reach" is a lot of its subject matter just is not palatable to the average person's sensibilities nowadays. Like you kind of saw the beginnings of that with Game of Thrones, when it dipped into uglier stuff towards the end a lot of viewers left. The market for "edgier" content isn't like it was back in the 90s and oughts where everything was dark, nasty antiheroes - a lot of people have a hard time swallowing a setting where the "good" guys are xenocidal militants who sacrifice 1000 people a day to their God-Emperor so humanity doesn't all get eaten alive by daemons.
I don't understand your Game of Thrones point. The show started pretty dark, showing the brutal realities of that world. As it got further into the show, the writing got worse, so there were fewer consequences. The show also reduced nudity over its run, which was an early selling point. People left because seasons 7 and 8 were dumb, not that it was edgy.
@@ethanfox8979 Yes, it was always dark, but when the show pivoted to Ramsay being the primary antagonist, it went into areas that people didn't just find "dark", they found it offensive. I distinctly remember after the episode with the wedding to Sansa, there were a whole bunch of people online pitching a fit and saying the show went too far and they were no longer watching.
40k I feel has some similar elements, it isn't just that it's "dark", it's that it has a lot of themes that people really can't stomach, the Imperium's overt, doctrinal xenophobia and religious fanaticism specifically go against two cardinal things that people have been taught are Unforgivable Sins regardless of the context, so even if they are a fan of 40k they have to make sure they keep their enjoyment of it behind 5 layers of irony.
@@kvant13 Look, it's the person who blames woke rather than poor writing.
@@Gustav_Kuriga Excuse me? Where did I mention anything about "woke"?
40K has never been more popular…
If there was a sister of battle game it would likely have a similar gameplay as space marine but without the super soldier power fantasy.🐱
Closer to gears of war with the use of cover would be neat. They can take some hits but not to the same degree as space marines.
In regards to the table top stuff
I loved 9th Ed. I played 10e for about 3 months and just, stopped.
Recently we began playing 9e again and I’ve been having such a good time with the game again.
25:18 The cultist is named Theredor Yheng and she worked under a Word Bearer!
I hope she returns, epic character
Nice one. Felt like having dinner with the wife and side piece😁
😂
Watchmasters, we shall continue our watch, the deathwatch shall never fall
I would not be opposed to a battlefield/helldivers 2 style game with the sisters of battle as the main force
For 19:30 you do get a Blood Angels centric game with BattleSector, and it's pretty damn good, including all the tragedy of having an awesome character fall to the Black Rage.
The Sisters of Battle show up quite a bit too.
Do an Ullanor Crusade episode. Of all the conflicts in 40K this one arguably had the widest ripples. It set the stage for the Heresy, it is where the Emperor left, it caused the wars for Armageddon, it caused the War of the Beast, Ghaz, etc.
Can't wait to see you guys react to the other Horus Heresy books, the next two and then hopefully the End and The Death.
HOW CAN EREBUS GET WORSE ?!
Well that's not gonna age well XD
LOOOOOTIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIINNNNNNNN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!screaming
I’ve always wanted an Assassinorum game. Like Hitman, but with bolters.
They got him. They got him!
Tigi is more impressive then Mefinston, since his powers are All his not heretige from the genesead. Rouboote isn't a psycher unlike Sanguineus that was maybe the strongest after Magnus!
I really wish for SM2 DLC to have other chapters have a short story. Blood Angels idea sounds amazing and Dark Angels are more likely to get a story since they're first on the block for custom armor
Luetin starting the podcast sounding like he's the host 😂
" today we're going to talk about space marine 2..." followed by a question 😂
hey bricky, I've played through the SOB VR game and I can say it is pretty mid. like, it's actually a 6/10 "it's aight I guess" tier VR game, but you do get to shoot a chaos knight to death with fixed turrets around an arena so the spectacle part is pretty neat.
Gw has always had a weird Marketing team. Imo, its cause its not inhouse. Thats why it feels so alien to see a new title.
I started collecting one of the lost legions the other day. Turns out its cheaper than collecting the ones that haven't been purged by the God Emperor.
Ohh hell yea I just got back from Poland yesterday I’m gonna really enjoy this podcast though the sons of Dorn are my favorite legion I like the Ultramarines.
That admech that got roasted was dawn of fire book 1, Avenging Son lol
no fucking way they got the dude who makes up all the lore that's HUGE
In regards to the tigerius vs miphiston debate, I’ve always read it as that miphiston is significantly stronger than tigerius but has way less control over his powers. Both are strong but there isn’t a chance of tigerius accidentally killing a room full of librarians because he lost control, whereas that is a genuinely valid concern with Mephiston.
The sentence with "How all Space Marines envy Ultramarines" really encapsulates what I don't like about them.
The biggest issue with the Ultramarines is, how prominent they are. The Ultramarines should be a chapter that's not as prominent in lore and is a bit looked down upon by some of the other chapters. The baseline shouldn't be the protagonists.
Then, it would be possible to have them as a niche pick for people who really like the whole "preparation, versatility, and logistics" thing (like me) instead of what many people see as the kinda boring chapter that gets all the attention.
They literally are looked down upon by other chapters. Especially Dark Angels and Space Wolves.
That sentence hasn't been brought back since 2008. Cry harder.
Speaking of Space marine 2. Any one else catch the interaction between the Admech and the Blinded menial worker? That was messed up even by 40K standards.
The answer to Space Marine 2 being a different chapter is Space Wolves to fight those filthy Thousand Sons
How about in the 6th Ciaphas Cain book where it clear that the one Sisters of Battle teacher is getting some bedtime action with one of the other Schola Members…..
Calgar got a marvel comic about his origin and early life
Bunch of dudes reconnected for the table top after Space marine 2 came out.
3rd through 5th player, dropped out came in for end of 9th. Absolutely miss flyers being cool, imperial guard being cool. The prevalence of initiative and leadership. Force orgs made sense to me. Detachments are cool as hell though. Played spacemarine 1 a while ago and waiting for 2 to go on sale. The constant rule changes in 10th are pretty daunting.
They should have 2 different gamesets. The combat patrol simplified and simple rules, (not simplified army) and then a more complex version for experienced players.
I am reading Dark Imperium, and I think Fulgrim pointed out how Guilliman wasn't the favorite or chosen son, but when he was absolutely needed most, he wasn't there, and that probably eats away at Guilliman. So thank ou Leutin for helping me understand why I like my blueberries
I've seen lots of new fans get into the hobby from SM2, it's really cool seeing this surge of popularity, we must help these new brothers and sisters!
I like the ultramarines. But the reason Black Templars called me is just their rage agaisnt everything. Like failing to defend terra even when the odds were agaisnt them and having that rage be unbottled and shattered on the floor for everyone to see. and
Finally, a collab with the Lore Master himself. This little silly podcast has grown so much, indeed.
Yes, i needed my dose of Soup and Panini! Ultramarines!
anyone else get the sort of impression that tidus is basically the master chief of the ultra marines, like but loads of skill, super soldier, and near borderline supernatural amounts of luck as, though the master chief has it as a clear and lore known part of his character even before he became a proper spartan, not sure if tidus has any lore support to that aspect especially with how disconnected many of the writers for the lore are from what i hear
Purple and gold ultramarines go hard ngl
Wouldn’t that just be Emperors Children?
The fact that GW still have the return of a loyalist primarch tied up behind a limited edition campaign book is beyond stupid. Probably the single biggest sequence of events to happen to the universe in ages, and no one can read it outside the wiki.