Tame Volcanoes With The Power Of Sweepy! Oxygen Not Included
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 17 เม.ย. 2020
- It's quite easy to tap into volcanoes because sweepy can mop up Magma and liquid metals. Today in Oxygen Not Included I explore this idea and produce a working solution to cool volcanos and harvest their power in steam turbines. Works in vanilla.
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Devs: "Oh my god, Brothgar is at it again folks..."
*Opening Unity for the 483rd time*
19:00
He's tidy and steadfast
Compact and adorable
Breaks thermodynamics and immune to melting
Why haven't you ordered one today?
9:30 "maybe we've brought together multiple volcanoes"
Hell Brothgar.
That's called hell.
This game's running on quantum physics.
As in, it works only if you look at it. Unless it doesn't
Very true my friend
Measurement is done by interaction, the sensor in a double slit experiment interacts with the electrons fired from the beam, that's what's meant by "looking at it".
Pop science interprets this as literal observation coming from you as the observer.
the liquid iron sweepy had the temperature properties of liquid iron including things like a freezing point! the sweepy didn't melt because it was already molten!
good point! :D it would just POOF into a gas
OMG! Sweepy is secretly a T-1000 terminator! :O
I love it so much. Hours of laughter if your cats name is Sweepy and you read this
@@NelsonGuedes its a T-1001 since this one doesnt loses form in hot liquid metal like the T-1000 (i wanted to use T2000 but apparently there's a fan fiction/parody using the T-2000 number)
Wait wait. Do I sense a repeatable, abuseable, and fun bug
Just so people know, this was broken with a recent patch.
The sweepy dock overheat threshold was made significantly lower so it will break just holding magma now.
=(
using dupes to deliver magma is too inneficient anyways
Nice design! I will probably try this out :)
Go for it!
Wait, I know you
Ah yes, time to take a break for 24 minutes and 36 seconds
37 second
My fav way to spend my lunch. Perfect timing!
I’ll definitely use this in my base
Great Video - Thanks for running this solution in Vanilla ONI. I generally like the idea of Mods, but have always tended to be a purist, running games in Vanilla as much as possible. ONI is probably the first game that I have whole heartedly embraced Mods. I continue to be amazed at your engineering skills that show through in your wonderful and sometimes crazy ONI contraptions. Meanwhile, I struggle to keep my base in pure oxygen past 100 cycles, but I watch and learn. Just imagine if Sweepy had access to elevators!
Woot Brothgar is back with another Vid! 😊 Thank you for all your hard work
Every time I start to get bored of ONI, I see one of your videos and it inspires me. Glad to see a use for sweepy like this as I want to use him, just it doesn’t feel efficient most of the time
Another great video, keep it up Brothgar!
It looks like the bottle needs to be put at the base of the bottle emptyer. This could explain why the dupe could not deliver it.
If that is the case might it be possible if you access it through a diagonal corner on the bottom? You wouldn't be able to use the door trick to toggle it, but couldn't you use a duplicant checkpoint instead to toggle access?
Use a door to toggle access?
@@dragonheart9965 Dupe checkpoints don't stop pathfinding. The dupe would stand at it for all eternity.
If that's the case then a box with the bottom right corner removed would suffice to keep the Gas and heat in
This is great. Love seeing the full potential of the sweepy.
love the experiment and build videos this is what i watch Brothgar for
Brothgar you beautiful human! Ever saving us from boredom with awesome vids. Really needed a distraction and here it is.
Me:found magma
Me:about to subject dupes to unholy experiments.
Me: found brothgars new video.
Dupes: Celebrating in the background.
you could fill the whole thing with chlorine as well to reduce the heat transfer
Yeah that would be good :D
Left a droplet of liquid in right part of the airlock and vacuum everything outside. It could be molten lead if things are going to be too toasty.
This is actually such a cool way to tame volcanoes, I think I'll actually build a sweepy dock for once and use this system of yours :)
build liquid iron sweepy, doesn't melt further.
I wonder if a liquid lead sweepy would evaporate.
@@inybisinsulate obviously the logical next question is can you make a sweepy from lead vapor? And if you can, does that make it indestructible?
@@dragonheart9965 Putting metals through canister fillers, madlad.
@@inybisinsulate then you could possibly just bottle up some gaseous lead and build a new one?
@@lars_larsen canister filler lead then build gaseous lead sweepy yes
Love the title, as my oldest cats name is Sweepy. Didn't know he could do it, but now I know what to do, while being at home.
Thank you Brothgar for a vanilla build. You heard my plea.
I was thinking while watching this video that it could be really cool if you would work toward making a super cool base incrementally in the style of these experiments. Each video will add a new segment that solves some sort of problem. After a few videos you would have a crazy base that each system feeds off of each other and would be organized chaos. Just a thought.
That would be cool
Hey, FYI Brothgar
If magma solidifies into igneous rock and the pile lands on top of an existing pile, the temperature of the newly created igneous rock will equalize with the igneous rock already on the ground, which deletes heat.
You can use clever usage of mesh tiles to force the magma to be ejected out the corner to prevent it. I believe it was TonyAdvance that has a video on the subject of merging piles and heat deletion
This is really cool and has a lot of interesting and useful applications for sweepy's and other stuff in general but I cant help but think that the setup you used for collecting metal from a volcano in your Oasis playthrough is more space efficient. Still quite enjoy the vid. Apologies for somewhat necro-ing your video
Awwww, poor Sweepy is getting toasted, roasted and melted. For science!
@Brothgar, AWESOME video! In my game I'm playing, I just started making steel. I wonder if instead of a petroleum boiler, I should go with a Magma/Metal Power Station...
both! Just kick the stuff out at a higher temperature and drop it in oil :)
So sweet! Magma in plastic bottles. 😍
It's just after 6am. My kid has had me up for 2 hours already with a bad throat.
And I'm giggling like a deranged sleep deprived school girl within 10 seconds. "Is your magma running" 🤣🤣🤣
This little metal hamburger is the key to change the tempature of even the hottest volcanoes
sweepy op! nice
I want this game soo bad, I'd love to get to a point where I could use friggin volcanoes to power my base!
Edit: It's you Brothgar that makes this game look so fun, thanks for the videos!
You should setup a second stage steam room that takes the 200 degree rock and cools it with the 95 degree water output by the steam turbines. Then use doors to pump the steam in the second stage back into the first steam room. The second stage could also use a conveyor rail and kick material out once it reaches 105 degrees.
On my current playthrough I have 3 gold volcanoes that I want to tap into without building steam turbine on top of each. There is a special method with liquid pump in vacuum. Dropping 5 g of water activates the pump every now and again. I found it too unreliable and unnecessarily complex. If sweepies dont melt under 2800 celsius (liquid gold) then its a game changer. Thats actually good find Brothgar. So if I make sweepies out of liquid gold I should be able to carry that gold to where I need it too. Hope it works.
Sweepy has been where no Duplicant has ever been before.
"Turns around right away"
19:00 Send it the SCP squads lol
Maybe it's using liquid Iron's melting/evaporation point for the sweepy
Liquid iron sweepie is best sweepie
I can see this design improved by utilizing an industrial sauna as to allow for much more thermal mass to be introduced which would in turn reduce the amount of heat spikes in the system. Also industrial saunas are pretty rad! On another note would thermium/insulation pipes be capable of pumping liquid metals through? If so you could reduce the amount of heat being leaked out immensely by simply having the dupes put the liquid metals into a pool to be picked up with a pump, then just pipe the metals into the sauna. Better yet do a system similar to how you would usually tame a regular volcano (keeping the metal physically separated from the steam chamber) and have auto-sweepers pick the material up when it drops bellow a certain temperature threshold.
Edit: I wonder if theres any new interesting ways to do a sour gas boiler with sweepies now
possible enhancement? put the material output inside the steam turbine room, fill the room with hydrogen, air lock entrance, cooling loop will cool the material even more, and materials are closer for tune ups as well.
Hello again brothgar
hi
I was serieously convinced the start of the video played at 1.5x speed... Or brothgar got a "boost" :)
Now if only there was a mod that could effectively handle phase-change inside a pipe, then you have a legit geothermal generator.
Hi brothgar you are the broth
There are other methods to do what is trying to be accomplished. For example one line that runs 10 steam turbines at 850 kw constantly without sweepy and without dupes constantly running back and forward. This build revolves entirely on sweepy lol which might be a limitation.
YEEES the sweepys not having overheat was intensinal!!!
Oh wow, building a sweepy out of liquid metal bypass the liquefaction temperature!
Great video as always! What music is this? Is it from ONI or... ?
Your videos should be sponsored by Klei. Im sure they watch these and take notes to patch out things like... making sweepys out of liquid iron above their melting point lol. there might be a bug that allows you to negate melting points if made with liquid ore
Weight plate doesn't sense state changes in materials maybe? It's sensing the initial magma, but doesn't find it when it flashes? May be a bug Klei could look into.
Oh hey physics, is ur magma running?
Its REALLY unrealistic using sweepy to sweep lava but hey! Klei said its ok so...! 😬😬😬
I waited so long for bottled liquids of unreasonable temperature. These plastic bottles rock!
@@archinavoid7999 oof
So this is power positive with the aquatuners then. Then we could run the cooling loop to the deposited items to cool them further
The only issue I keep running into whedn using blueprints, is if your on a map that say, uses a forest biome instead of sandstone.. the resources differ and you end up not being able to make the lot. I really wish the blueprint mod would allow us to change up what resources are selected for each thing inside the blueprint.
Yeah that's the hard part. If you have the mod that lets you place stuff without the mats you can at least replace it.
@@brothgar I do but its not always easy to see whats in some things, more so when automations included. Can never seem to rep what use to be there.
sooo in reality i think geothermal power works kinda similar, just without the sweepy and the bottles? have you tried just tunnelling down to a volcano or the lava core and dripping e.g. polluted water down, then capping the hole with a steam engine? maybe then add an autosweeper or something to pick up the dirt (which i think is what polluted water produces when boiling?) and feed it to a bunch of meal lice or something.
might be able to turn a volcano and a toilet into a way lower maintenance power+dirt generator that way, just have the materials do the shipping for you?
If u can, always puts subtitles. Thank you.
English is auto generated. Sometimes the community submits different languages.
7:21 why though? The magma will heat it up, but the steam that it's in contact with will cool it down. The liquid lock will be near the same steady state as the steam it is in contact with.
And with two of them and a vacuum in between, there's no "who cares about heat loss" either.
This meditation background music will make it even harder for me to try to stay awake...
Want some heavy metal :P
Sweepy: the only way is to go even further beyond aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh...
tumps up for the picture to copy it :D
the distance magma travels helps regulate how much you drop at once.
I'd like to know if you can create ( in sandbox mode ) a self sustainable base for one dupe , smallest as possible 😁
Wish you would upload these to blueprintsnotincluded, and put a link in description
oh interesting:P
I miss the series :(
They did a whole episode about this on Star Trek TNG. Then the bots became sentient!
Probably doesn’t melt because liquid iron is already liquid. So it might have a check disabled for phase change or something? Melting point might have gone infinite.
Further. If you dropped the materials into your sewer water before it’s consumed by a filter or peppers or whatever, or oil before it’s refined to petroleum, you Can further reduce its resting temperature.
There is a sandbox tool mod that lets you spawn geysers vents and volcanos
Hey brothgar, kongregate made a new idle game called, Royal Idle: Medieval Quest. I have started playing it myself and it’s quite fun. It still has the adventure capitalist and adventure communist feel to it and I think you might have fun with it. So maybe after this series is done royal idle could be an option :)
Can't you automate magma delivery to the steam engine room and seal both rooms so that heat doesnt escape? Can you ship magma via conveyor rails?
Awesome idea btw
Yes if you use mods
Since you had to put the oxygen 'sink' on the left, would it be better to have the gas lock on the left side instead of the right?
Reality department is the name of my Techo band.
Hey Brothgar, may i ask you how you deconstruct things immediately in sand box mode? I try it but it just commands my duplicans to do it instead of just breaking in up, and the other option is destroying everything, but sometimes i don't want to do that.
You can just add a buffer to the weight plate
Take the liquid iron sweepy and heat it up to turn it to a gas
While it might be harder to set up, using a CO2 air lock would bleed a lot less heat out of the steam room
has anyone else had trouble with there mods not working? I haven't played for a few months now, and when I came back this week they all show in this red text and don't seem to work. I thought it was just because of the recent updates, but then I see some mods work for you in the video. Anybody have an idea as to what's going on?
With massive thermal injections like that wouldn't increasing the thermal mass with more water help to increase the efficiency?
Yes it does lol first comment I was looking for was this one. I already built something similar in my survival map (no sweepy) and had to make the injection point out of niobium (the rest steel) it’s weird his items aren’t overheating. And I had 100kg of steam per tile. It’s the initial injection that gets things overheated.
Humans: AI is going to be our downfall!
AI: 16:00
And then you have the T3 Sweepy.
Those made of liquid iron.
You try killing that thing!
Is it worth rearranging the steam turbines to be at a lower level vs the heat magma sources so that the dupe only uses the fire pole to get there? I feel like on occasion you might get an unhelpful dupe drop their bottle because dinner time is just too important.
That's going to depend on you base layout more then anything.
I don't understand:
* how Ashkan doesn't immediately fry when entering the sweepy room
* how that aquatuner is not instantly melting within minutes in a room of hot steam
* how the magma heat is not going to leak through that single autodoor and eventually melt everything
The first ad I saw was for insurance
Do they offer magma flood insurance?
No just car mud insurance
You could start a liquid iron insurance policy
Yeah Weight Plate is bugged right now.
Since in vanilla you cannot use autosweeper to deliver bottles, could you instead use a door conveyor system instead? The dupe drop the bottle using the drop-off building (do not remember the name but it is the one you use with the sweep only command for your centralized drop zone) and when it detects something (or on a timer), the doors will move the bottles toward the steam room.
Also, as I said last week, I tried turning off for your channel my ads blocker. But in this video, there have been an ad that lasted for nearly 3 minutes. Is it something that you can configure on your side? I do not mind 30s to 60s ads but near 3 minutes is a bit too much :)
3 min! Yeah you don't need to watch the whole thing. I think the cut off point is 15s
@@brothgar No, on that one, I could not jump through and the message to skip the ad was not there :(
Here is a screenshot of the ads almost at the end: drive.google.com/open?id=1BE_dLnw0XMKDoJkrUggqROpFjJTYZM44
ahh yeah those adds are running a lot lately.
Can someone explain the cooling system for me ? I mean the setup and how it work i want to build this system in my base
Does this still work, I get so many problems with this. First it was not being able to select the liquid metal, which turns out was because no dupe could reach it. The main problem though is that the sweepy is melting pretty much on contact with the liquid metal, I tried with gold and steel.
Brothgar, can you review the experiment, and look at the temperature of the materials put into the Sweepy dock, before it gets grabbed by the auto-sweeper? If my suspicion is correct, the materials *in* the dock may be loosing their temperature because of the auto-sweepers, not because of Sweepy. The experiment you ran with the auto-sweepers grabbing bottles of liquid would not have been a proper experiment, because a mod enabled the Auto-Sweepers to be able to grab the liquid, and additionally the liquid could possibly be getting handled different by the auto-sweepers at that point. If that is the case, what materials are you making the auto-sweeper out of, vs the Sweepy dock, and and what temperatures are they at? This might give some insight into the oddity.
I know I haven't watcjed the whole video yet but the cooling loop you are using why not run that loop through a liquid locks to keep them cool and make the build a bit compact. You already have a cooling loop why not incorporate it with a liquid lock?
I don't know maybe it would work just my 2 cents
That would extract more heat from the lava as it's moved from one spot to another.
Can I get an f in chat for sweepy? He now has an overheat temp. F in chat.
How can I actually use Sweepy as it was intended? The dupe s just don't want to empty the dock.
Patch Update: Sweepy melts if you use Steel for Iron Volcanos just a FYI
Hey, nice video. Can you please could tell me how to use your blueprint? What I need to download?
Download the blueprints mod from the works shop, then add blueprint files into C:\Users\{USER}\Documents\Klei\OxygenNotIncluded\blueprints
@@brothgar Ok thanks.
Hello there.
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Hey brothgar i have a question with the debug mod, im not able to use it, are you able to save me so i can do experiments too
It's not a save file. You add a file to the systems folder. th-cam.com/video/7bzrTOKCt0Q/w-d-xo.html
@@brothgar do it work for all laptops?
I suggest enable sandbox in the game option of your map also download the sandbox tools mod that helps you delete certain layers in sandbox mode. It’s as close as you can get to debug mode without the hassle of trying to enable it (I play on MacBook for example)
Liked it, copied it, love it. But why doesn't my conveyor rail keep spinning?
I don't see an advantage to this compared to a normal volcano tamer...someone clue me in?
How would you tackle the magma biome with it to be sure that sweepy doesn't run out of magma?
Not sure, but that would be fun to explore.
Magma will always run out it has no renewable source. Volcano and other methods are best used to make magma more efficient. For example using magma as a cooling/heating loop in pipes.
I didn't find any volcano on my map. Only huge magma biome on the bottom.
@@didzee3720 Yes the starter asteroid or "map" that you play on is a friendly balanced biome that has almost everything except hot boulders, volcanos and stuff like that. To access that you need to go and select another starting asteroid or "map" you will see a selection button to "re-roll" your maps attributes as in geoactive, volcanoes, large glaciers, frozen core, etc. You can google search this and it will give you a list of different traits. This way you can select one you feel happy with :) For example if you want a challenge you would get metal deficient or some trait that would mess with your oil biome.. making it much harder to progress quickly.
You can make jumping airlock forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/88906-improved-liquid-airlocks/
Didn't you say that your sweepys only bottle liquid because of your bottling mod?
no it's the loader arm that does not handle bottles
Meep