Jeep Cherokee - History, Major Flaws, & Why It Got Cancelled (2014-2023)

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  • @DVAutoDetailingTheWaxPodcast
    @DVAutoDetailingTheWaxPodcast หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I bought a new 2014 KL Latitude with the Pentastar. Awesome car, quick, great on gas and reliable. A lot of people didn't like the look of the nose with the headlights and here we are years later and every Chevy has that look.

  • @MatthewTheCCMA
    @MatthewTheCCMA หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    My friend out of high school in 2014 got a Cherokee Laredo as a graduation gift, I remember getting into it and first thinking “wow, this is a jeep?” the seats were extremely comfortable. The ride was really really nice, really good sized back seat that eventually had a car seat and fit well. I’ll never forgot tho the first time she got asked to bring it to off roading jeep events in Ohio and her having to explain why she couldn’t. 😂 then hearing “it’s not 4x4?!?” NOPE! 👎🏻 she blew peoples mind that you could even get a 4x2.
    But like you said, a comfortable SUV describes it well, it was decently impressive with the level of quality in the interior, especially considering what we were getting normally in Jeeps around the 2009-2011 Era.
    One GLARING problem was the 9 Speed, they really had the programming all wrong. I remember taking my first couple rides in it and feeling the roughness, first gear to second gear picked and chose whether it wanted to shift smoothly. Second to Third Gear I literally could never figure out a way to make it shift gears smoothly. Now it was a personal crime to this particular jeep because my friend never took it in for any Software updates so this remained all the way to 98k miles. By then, it was shifting so horribly that even she couldn’t ignore it. I felt that if Chrysler maybe would have had a little more help from ZF when programming the transmission (and maybe the did, who know) I think it may have gone a little bit better. From what I understand from the Pacifica Forums I’m in they seem to have figured out the programming issues by now but who knows! I do miss that SUV, it Shocking never had one single problem other than her ignoring the tranmission roughness 😂

  • @nathanchambers985
    @nathanchambers985 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    Have 2015 Cherokee with almost 200,000 miles. One of the best vehicles I've ever owned.

  • @johnvetter2004
    @johnvetter2004 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    I have a "21 Trailhawk...30K miles on it with ZERO issues!

  • @jasonz7788
    @jasonz7788 หลายเดือนก่อน +11

    Welcome back! Thank you sir

  • @Goobnav
    @Goobnav หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Just traded my '16 KL Trialhawk V6 for a '24 Grand Cherokee L Limited, was a pretty good vehicle, got to 95K but, that was after a PTU was replaced under a Mopar Extended Warranty, took a week to get fixed due to parts shortage and was start to get the 4th to 5th gear clunk. Made me a Jeep fan for life. I actually took that KL TH offroad at a Jamboree event and amazed the Jeep reps.

  • @chuckgladfelter
    @chuckgladfelter หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    We have a 2018 AWD Limited with the 2.4 Multiair motor. It's been a really good car and is comfortable on trips. It goes very well in the snow.

  • @JamEZ87
    @JamEZ87 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    The Jeep Cherokee and Nissan Juke started the split headlight design. The first new gen Cherokee looked weird then they came out with the second version and looked a lot better. I also like the way the brake light becomes a turn signal.

  • @Mark-tj5sn
    @Mark-tj5sn 28 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Do one for the Chevrolet HHR! I personally have one and like it myself

  • @lamarwilliams9874
    @lamarwilliams9874 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Man i have missed you. Great video as always. Love from Charlotte NC

  • @iNeverHadMercy
    @iNeverHadMercy หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    The Anniversary Editions must be VERY limited because I am a "Vehicle Watcher" and I have NEVER seen one on the road 😮

  • @madmeh2929
    @madmeh2929 หลายเดือนก่อน +13

    In 2014-2015, I was looking at the Cherokee but found numerous articles about the ZF transmission problems, including never getting to 9th gear.

    • @MarspeedCars
      @MarspeedCars  หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      Yeah there were so many 9 speed problems at first. They seem to have improved things after 2016 but the first two years were full of all sorts of transmission issues

    • @nathanchambers985
      @nathanchambers985 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      I have 2015 Cherokee bought new. The V6 paired with the 9 speed works fine. The transmission doesn't operate like people are use to,hence they would make claims about it that weren't real.

    • @falalfel222-li5xv
      @falalfel222-li5xv หลายเดือนก่อน

      The reason for this is that the ZF 9HP was designed to be programmed and adapted based on what manufacturer was using it and what car it was in. Supposedly, the way that Jeep progammed the Cherokees transmission was quite odd, setting the 9th gear shift point at something like 85mph. In reality, the Cherokees transmission is more like an 8 speed since the 9th gear is so high its basically unreachable thanks to wind resistance and speed limits.

    • @matthewmiller6885
      @matthewmiller6885 หลายเดือนก่อน

      it never did lol. I did love the rear locker and low range for my snowy hill i lived on.

  • @junkfood301
    @junkfood301 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    IMO the Cherokee trail hawk was the perfect sweet spot. Still have mine hope to keep many years.

  • @damilolaakanni
    @damilolaakanni หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    I don't think Jeep understood the consumer market when they released the Wagoneer and Grand Wagoneer. Full size body on frame SUVs are the worst selling category of SUV in North America. Even then, they have to compete against the GM full size SUVs which have been the best sellers for decades, as well as the Ford Expedition, not counting more reliable options like the Nissan Armada and Toyota Sequioa.

    • @Aaron.Rants.Reviews
      @Aaron.Rants.Reviews 5 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Also if you looks at the sales figures, it seems pretty clear that all that it did was take sales away from people who would have otherwise bought a Grand Cherokee/Wrangler. They didn't win over any Escalade/Navigator buyers.

  • @spencerkooiman1542
    @spencerkooiman1542 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I had a 2016 Cherokee Limited with the 3.2 and it served me well I bought it in 2019 with 32,000 miles on it and I put 110,000 miles in my ownership most of it was highway miles. One day I was driving to the gym and took off from a stop sign slightly faster than normal and the power transfer unit broke. It was still drivable tho it was ticking time bomb before the transmission was to fail. Luckily I was in a position to trade the vehicle in and bought a GMC Sierra Denali. The way that Stellantis is running its brands has made me swear off the brand for good. My dad and I still have a soft spot for Jeeps and wish to see if the brand can turn around.

  • @Cameronacres
    @Cameronacres หลายเดือนก่อน +8

    So many Chrysler products are getting discontinued in 2024

    • @billypeterson9284
      @billypeterson9284 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      They should discontinue Chrysler itself in 2024

    • @MarspeedCars
      @MarspeedCars  หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      Stellantis is in tough, not much going right for them at the moment (other than Jeep and Ram)

  • @sneakerfreak2002
    @sneakerfreak2002 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    We had a used one on our lot. We celebrated when it finally sold. What a smouldering lump

  • @MiddleOutdoorsman
    @MiddleOutdoorsman 22 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

    Well researched. I got a 2018 KL trailhawk about a year ago with 79K on it, have put almost 5K on it this year. It sits most of the week. From everything I've read, the 2018, with a V6 is one of the better years to get. They've got most if not all the teething issues worked out, and it was the last year before they went and started making changes again with the 2019. From a performance standpoint both on and offroad (thus far), it's way better than my old vehicle, which was a 91 toyota 4 runner.
    The main issues I see with this car, is getting ahead of known maintenance issues. Like changing out the oil in the rear diff, (lifetime of the vehicle means until the warranty expires) and swapping out the oil cooler, which made of plastic, and bolted directly onto the engine block which is aluminum. Very dumb design decision. Aftermarket is made of aluminum. The OEM oil cooler is notorious for going out every 25K ish miles. Once it does, you'll be spewing oil everywhere. Where I'm wondering, is changing the transmission oil, as it's sealed, with no drain plug. Oil is supposedly good for the lifetime of the vehicle, but I seriously doubt that. There's ways to do it, but it isn't easy.
    There are aftermarket stuff you can get for the trailhawk, but it's all expensive. You can get things like a Gobi rack, ditch lights, 2" lift, and rock rails. All of which I've done to my KL. Overall I'm happy with my Jeep, but I'm far from having rose tinted glasses on it. Proper maintenance, and operation is key, and you can say that for any vehicle, but doubly so for the KL. For example, I've found that when shifting into and out of 4WD low, it's best to do it on a slight incline. Letting off the brake, while in neutral to let the teeth mesh. This keeps the transmission from clunking, and it shifts smoothly then. Seems to me that letting it clunk over is going to cause excessive wear. Most people aren't going to do this though.

  • @cameronschultz9320
    @cameronschultz9320 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I own Cherokee Overland 4x4 AD1 and have only had a two issues, which were not mentioned. #1 SVC 4WD and much less serious #2 Service Shifter warning.
    The PTU decided to bind and practically seized itself at around 104k miles (never took it offroad, apparently it is engaged frequently). $3200 later, brand new and no problems since. The PTU for the Trailhawk is a much more common problem, so much so that there is a recall for MY14 to MY16 for it. #2 was just an annoyance. The shifter harness was bent at an extreme angle from the factory, causing the wiring to become loose. Wasn't a big deal as you could still park/drive/reverse. It was easy to deal with, just required restarting the vehicle. The error disappeared for days to weeks. I just replaced it for $50 recently because I got tired of seeing it.
    Otherwise, haven't had a problem with it. MY14-MY16 and MY19 are the years to steer clear from. The face lift came with all the same issues MY14 faced. Good job, FCA.

  • @benjamincamp9608
    @benjamincamp9608 หลายเดือนก่อน +9

    It is crazy how the front facia of the pre-refresh KL Cherokee was ahead of its time with the split running light and headlight design. Now, many automakers copied the pre-refresh Cherokee’s design, like General Motors, Mitsubishi, Nissan, Hyundai, BYD, etc.

    • @matthewmiller6885
      @matthewmiller6885 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      There are so many, i dont think this was the first....maybe the Juke?

    • @benjamincamp9608
      @benjamincamp9608 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@matthewmiller6885 Definitely, the Nissan Juke had the split headlights and running lights. It seems that after the Cherokee was released, that design took off even further.

    • @matthewmiller6885
      @matthewmiller6885 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@benjamincamp9608 true and people hated it yet , every brand has one or two bumper headlight now

    • @matthewmiller6885
      @matthewmiller6885 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@benjamincamp9608 Yeah it is on most chevys these days

    • @Aaron.Rants.Reviews
      @Aaron.Rants.Reviews 5 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      @@matthewmiller6885 Pontiac Aztec says "hi". It was the original over-stylized crossover :)

  • @almeisam
    @almeisam หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    The biggest problem I've had with my 2017 Cherokee is the shifter and the wiring harness for it. One, the other, or both, start having issues about every 18 months. I'm hoping the last shifter wiring harness replacement will keep working (so far it has). Also, in a cross-country trip I took a couple of months ago, I was getting between 28 and 35 MPG (28 while fighting headwinds on I-80 in Wyoming, 35 on I-70 in Ohio).
    The biggest issue I see for Jeep in their entirety is they become far overpriced.

    • @MarspeedCars
      @MarspeedCars  หลายเดือนก่อน

      Interesting, haven’t heard too much about those problems. Wiring issues are always a pain in the ass though. That mileage is pretty decent, I’d be very happy with 30+ MPG on the highway. Which engine is that with?
      Yes I 100% agree, the Jeeps are so expensive now for what you get, but it seems like the whole auto industry price wise has gone insane. New vehicles are just not worth MSRP (or above)

  • @robbamford4134
    @robbamford4134 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I had one of these with the 6 cylinder. I like everything about it except for the transmission and panoramic sun roof. The tranny never went into the 9th gear and it often didn’t shift down into first after a stop. The sun roof leaked behind the interior panels, and corroded the e brake computer which caused the brake to lock on unexpectedly. The brake couldn’t be released to allow the car to move. The replacement computer was $1400 and dealership said it would be a couple thousand to reseal sunroof and it would likely leak anyways. They really messed up what would have been a nice car.

  • @rogerzimmerman4022
    @rogerzimmerman4022 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I'm excited for your Charger review, especially the ice version

  • @JesusRamirez-yi6xy
    @JesusRamirez-yi6xy หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    This segment is super competitive, Jeep needs something this size (in my opinion) to compete with Toyota RAV4 and Honda CR-V, the Jeep Compass (in my opinion) competes with something smaller like a Toyota CorollaCross or Honda HR-V

  • @roc6d
    @roc6d หลายเดือนก่อน +6

    Now u only see these get used to ram stores in Chicago

  • @sergeantschlumpf6368
    @sergeantschlumpf6368 หลายเดือนก่อน

    If it’s got transverse mounted engines, how does it have a 2 speed transfercase available?

  • @Hobotraveler82
    @Hobotraveler82 หลายเดือนก่อน

    This video highlights the evolution of the Cherokee and the ever changing market. Nobody thinks about that. Nope instead they think all Jeeps should be badge as a Wrangler.
    I like these Cherokees. But I also like the Grand Cherokee. 😊

  • @matthewmiller6885
    @matthewmiller6885 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Bought a 2014 Trailhawk in 2017 with 70k miles....needless to say i should have done a bit more research. Nothing but problems, overheating, exhaust leaks, leaky moon roof, shifter problems, and then out of nowhere BOOM, transmission went out. Really soured me and tell anyone thinking of these, to run away. Had some nice features and 4x4 was great, but didnt make up for the problems i had.

  • @Classicmoderndodgefan
    @Classicmoderndodgefan หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    What about your two dodge charger do you still have them

    • @MarspeedCars
      @MarspeedCars  หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      Yes I still do. Will make some kind of video on them before winter

  • @zachstefanowski2846
    @zachstefanowski2846 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Welcome back!

  • @donaldwilson2620
    @donaldwilson2620 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Other than the early issues with the ZF 9 speed automatic, another possible reason why the 2014-23 Cherokee got canceled was too much competition. When it was introduced, the compact SUV class was already taking off, and when you're competing with top sellers like the Toyota RAV4, Honda CR-V, and Ford Escape, you really need to stand out to be competitive, and with the possibly exception of the Trailhawk, the Cherokee wasn't a stand out. Plus, when the Cherokee got discontinued, most of the competition had already made significant upgrades, and the Cherokee felt old in comparison, which is also one of Stellantis' major problem as well, an aging product line.

  • @theredtruckyt1193
    @theredtruckyt1193 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I like how I'm working on one of these thats leaking from everywhere. With a bad shifter and a bad power steering module... junkk

  • @CarringtonHollister
    @CarringtonHollister หลายเดือนก่อน

    My next door neighbor got one in black it’s the facelift model with smoke black wheels

  • @garthbrown5725
    @garthbrown5725 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Some pass cars are coming back I can't wait to see the El Camino

  • @youtubecarspottersguide1
    @youtubecarspottersguide1 หลายเดือนก่อน

    looked at them in 2014-15 wanted a base trail hawk V6 no opts to keep the price low most dealers ordered the top trim with very opt in the book it did hurt that at one time jeep had renegade ,compass ,patriot , cherokee

  • @mrgurulittle7000
    @mrgurulittle7000 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I liked this generation Cherokee although at the time it felt a little misnamed. But it was a good car.

  • @angrymuffinsb
    @angrymuffinsb หลายเดือนก่อน

    As someone from the UK & in the industry, they’re never gonna get 100% EV sales by 2030. The sales are waining so fast.

  • @calr4459
    @calr4459 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I’m thinking the Compass looked similar to the Cherokee for $7000 less. Tough choice?

  • @MoparAdventure
    @MoparAdventure หลายเดือนก่อน

    shouldve released the turbodiesel in the USA it wouldnt have been a complete flop. the 2.4L tigershark engine is a fiat wonder engine, I wonder if it will even last 100k miles. every 2.4l tigershark I test drove smelled like it had a blown head gasket. We drove 6 of them before writing them off the list for the grand cherokee. if the Cherokee didnt have that awful zf9 but a zf8 rear wheel drive bias we'd buy one today. the zf9 was a nightmare.

  • @michaelcoffey7362
    @michaelcoffey7362 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Good video 🥰

  • @bluecollarbuilds
    @bluecollarbuilds หลายเดือนก่อน

    My girlfriends got one of these thankfully it’s a newer one

  • @maxrfinch
    @maxrfinch หลายเดือนก่อน

    Love hate relationship with my Trailhawk. Does well in the sand dunes

  • @LenTexDIY
    @LenTexDIY หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    I hated the KL. They were hideous looking.

    • @dennisthebrony2022
      @dennisthebrony2022 หลายเดือนก่อน

      The Facelifted one in 2019 looked better though.

  • @falalfel222-li5xv
    @falalfel222-li5xv หลายเดือนก่อน

    As the owner of a 2015 Cherokee Trailhawk, I do think these vehicles are a little misunderstood. Honestly, I think that the KL works as a logical, modern interpretation of the old Cherokees, being a smaller, more efficient and road focused Jeep model compared to the Wrangler. Plus, in Trailhawk form, they actually are REALLY impressive offroad. Its not a wrangler or anything, it doesn't have the articulation or clearence for that, but for a crossover, its second to none
    I think where it all falls apart is the execution. The interior quality sucks, the reliability is questionable and its fairly uneventful to drive. It's the definition of a 4 out of 10 car. The only reason I think buying one makes sense is if you buy a Trailhawk and intend to use it as an offroader/dailydriver (like I did). Otherwise, just get the Toyota.

  • @nintendoatarikiller
    @nintendoatarikiller หลายเดือนก่อน

    wb just in time for the stellantis gong show lol

  • @1stSilversnow
    @1stSilversnow หลายเดือนก่อน

    It’s too bad they really changed the styling. It’s fairly competitive for its class. If they somehow gave it a more off road suspension, it would wipe the floor with the bronco sport in fords class. Then again, with the slight increase in costs, I guess you’re looking at a small pickup. This whole brand is a tragedy

  • @StraightOtohGunga
    @StraightOtohGunga 24 วันที่ผ่านมา

    I always thought this vehicle was just too curvy and the front end was off putting

  • @Modine.
    @Modine. หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    I wish you had mentioned the Cherokee shared a platform with the Dart.

    • @igarrett113
      @igarrett113 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Don’t forget the Chrysler 200 as well.

  • @daves9616
    @daves9616 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Its sad that Stellantis killed the Cherokee name. Would Toyota kill the RAV4 or Honda the CRV??? Jeep with all their focus into the smaller compass which was made overseas. The Cherokee was a great vehicle. My wife and I had a 2018 trailhawk. It was probably the most comfortable car I've ever had. Perfect size decent on trails and a monster in the snow. Yeah the nine speeds had their early issues but they figured them out.

  • @marcborkowski6474
    @marcborkowski6474 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I have a 21 Trailhawk and it was way more capable than the compass and grand Cherokee and previous cherokees.

  • @NewtownVids
    @NewtownVids หลายเดือนก่อน +29

    As for 2024 nobody needs chrysler. Nobody needs a chrysler Pacifica minivan, That's only vehicle they have in they lineup. They should've kept the 300.

    • @amcb2035
      @amcb2035 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      ??

    • @MarspeedCars
      @MarspeedCars  หลายเดือนก่อน +16

      I will say the Pacifica is a pretty good minivan and sells well, they are all over the place. Otherwise Chrysler has nothing to offer which is sad

    • @newswanofficial
      @newswanofficial หลายเดือนก่อน +6

      except the pacifica sells more than the 300 hence why they kept the pacifica instead of the 300

    • @NewtownVids
      @NewtownVids หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@MarspeedCars Frank Rhodes Jr the great-grandson of Walter P Chrysler is buying both Chrysler and Dodge and bring them back to their American roots.

    • @adrianzanoli
      @adrianzanoli หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      ​@@NewtownVids and who is gonna pay for it? Chrysler, Dodge and Jeep have a combined value of 2 to 3 billion dollars.
      Plus, 1 or 2 more billion dollars are needed to develop new platforms since the FCA/PSA ones are intellectual properties of Stellantis.

  • @stevevalley7835
    @stevevalley7835 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Given the rate that RAV4s sell, seems the issues with the Cherokee were a stale, outdated design, and price escalation. Jeep developed a follow on model, for China. Dubbed the "Commander", it offered fresh styling, an upgraded interior, and a stretched "Grand Commander" that offered a third row seat, all on the same platform. Seems it would have been obvious to offer the Commander and Grand Commander in North America, as a follow on to both the Cherokee and Journey, rather than abandoning a very popular market segment.
    The self-serving statements from Stellantis can be translated into "we are dropping the Cherokee so prospects have no alternative to a Grand Cherokees, so we can take more money off them". Thing is, people do have an alternative, a RAV4 or CR-V. And now, Stellantis' program of progressively taking more money off people, seems to be blowing up in their face.

  • @jakeywakey4424
    @jakeywakey4424 หลายเดือนก่อน

    The new Cherokee’s are cute but the reliability issues were enough to make stay far away from Jeep as a whole lol

  • @myyoutubename152
    @myyoutubename152 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Have you ever been in one? I'd say the two worst things about the car is the packaging (it's big outside, but tight inside), and the stiff ride. Neither are good Jeep attributes.

  • @jonlosito2004
    @jonlosito2004 หลายเดือนก่อน

    This is literally the 2nd time they killed off the Cherokee since like 2001 😂😂

  • @briantoner5247
    @briantoner5247 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Europe had a 6 speed manual!!! 😤

  • @baronvonjo1929
    @baronvonjo1929 หลายเดือนก่อน

    My friend has one in all black and I don't think anyone is particularly impressed by it. It looks and feels like it will break down at any moment despite having about 110k miles last I saw. It's just not really a sturdy car.
    She misses her Jeep Commander but the engine blew. It was full of plastic amd of course loaded with issuesm but she liked it for the looks and space. Her family got her the Cherokee for free so she can't complain too much but she isn't a fan.
    It certainly is fairly cramped and poorly put together. In my opinion. You're better off looking elsewhere.

  • @raymond_sycamore
    @raymond_sycamore หลายเดือนก่อน

    FIAT..... need I say more?

  • @ragnarnorthman2673
    @ragnarnorthman2673 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I liked renting this vehicle. No one is going to pay 40 grand when it's worth half that. Consumer preferences for larger versions, what? That costs 100 grand. That will be discontinued too. Electric version, what? No one wants an electric vehicle. I guess you tried with this vid. You have to call it what it is man.

  • @gartblaum
    @gartblaum หลายเดือนก่อน

    Designed by bean counters

  • @coreylucas5997
    @coreylucas5997 หลายเดือนก่อน

    It’s a shame Jeep is going to be RIP soon, saw a few of these final model years all over 40 grand, nothing special and way cheap looking interior