And to think I used to tackle this area by fleeing battles and having all 3 tier 3 Limit breaks ready for a 1 round of ownage against, Rapps? I always forget that damn things name.
@@MsHojat In the Remake, the party has access to Shiva, Ifrit and Leviathan all in Midgar (supposedly but we saw it in footage) You get them much later in the OG so the party used this glitch in the remake to get them :)
This episode felt like christmas. Everytime I thought Death was finished, he'd say "However..." and my brain would go off like "But wait, there's more!" BTW, of course there's exactly 7 different parts in the game where this can happen. Yet another allusion to the number 7.
@ZeoDyce in FF7, the steam speedrun community is the one to watch. Most games stick to the original, sure. But, with FF7, the game is so much easier to manipulate on steam (without mods), that's the community that stays the most active... Because shit like this is still being discovered. This will seriously drop hours off of the #1 speedruns. Compare that to the Mario community, which recently FREAKED THE FUCK OUT because they dropped .8 of a second.
@@bronsoncarder2491 False equivalency, and look, it hasn't impacted speedruns whatsoever. I doubt it'd even be allowed. It's save game manipulation/cheating, plain and simple. It just so happens that the game's code is so fragile that you don't need 3rd party tools to manipulate it into doing some weird things. Yuffie warping isn't allowed in legitimate speedruns, nor will this ever be.
Instead of us giving something back to FFVII on its birthday (because of its impact during our childhood), it actually gave us something... AGAIN. The game that keeps on giving man.
@@RoderickEtheria Yup. I checked his MP and he was still sitting over 300 after summoning it. You can just max out mp hp swap and have nuts MP at level 1 xD
@@MysticWarriorMJ in fact, it's the one time in the game that HPMP might actually be useful, since enemies aren't hitting you for 4 digits of damage. :D
Wonder how the enemy skill learned skills save to memory though. Highly doubt it would work since this glitch only seems to copy the type of materia. There's no way they have a different hex code for every single potential variable of enemy skill sadly. I don't think there's any universe where you would code the game like that as it would be just the epitome of inefficient coding. Sorry dudes. Feel free to test it but nah
@@ryandean8586 It wouldn't necessarily be inefficient. Suppose that each piece of materia is encoded in 32 bits (which is probably true since its a 32-bit console). There are 83 different materia types, including Enemy skills. log_2(83) = 6.4, so you need 7 bits to encode the materia type. And you probably want one bit for checksum purposes. That leaves you 24 bits. As it happens, there are 24 enemy skills available to learn. So you could use each of those 24 bits to encode whether the associated enemy skill has (1) been learned or not (0).
You could literally do that like.. 18 times so that all characters had a copy of all master materia's and then completely shut down every encounter the game has to offer. This is some gameshark-type shit, and literally the only version of the game safe from it is the original disk copy xD
@@TRNFloyd no, it only works on steam. The other version of the glitch only gets you 2 (14?) mp+ materia. It also require you to have a save file with those materia...
That is a mistranslation. Needed to be "if you attack when its tail is up, its gonna counterattack with its laser". If you just wait, it doesnt attack at all and lowers its tail after a few seconds
@@JuddMan03 not a mis translation, that's how barret talks, you do that, it's on you other chars in the game will say something like, don't do that, or else it'll mean x i've never believed the mistranslation or troll, this is just barret's way of speaking
@@JuddMan03 i thought they did a good job, i foudn that the main issue is that it happens so early in the game before you're used to barret it's really just a rehash of the first boss fight in ff6 though, it's a gimick fight in a game with very few gimick fights, imo.
Thing is, during the development of ff7, the devs made it, they knew it was broken as hell, but they somehow got a build that runs the game well, with no "obvious" bugs. They didn't know why it worked and didn't want to break it again so they just shipped it the way it was.
Actually no. A far a I understand the non-PS1 versions of the game are based off an unfinished near-release development version off FF7 which had less bugfixes and such. Over time though as the versions evolved more bugs were fixed, if not even more than the original.
@@Igor_servant_of_Philemon I mean, I don't blame them. It was the nineties, it was a 3d game (which was a VERY new concept at the time,) and it's a pretty damn big game even by today's standards. Ambitious even for today- your choices actually matter to an extent, there are many branching pathways of dialogue and events (the affection meter with the girls, dressing up for Corneo to see if he picks you or Tifa, (idk if Aeris can be picked it's never happened to me) all the dialogue choices, etc.) you can lose certain things and still continue on (on my first playthrough, I got ONE huge materia because I was good at fighting and literally nothing else. I got the Fort Condor materia even after losing the minigame because all it required was killing a monster. Which I am rather skilled at.) If I tried to make it even now (granted my game development experience is limited to very simple 2d arcade games that look like they're from the seventies) it would be broken as fuck too.
@@UselessGoddess378 I never wanted to shame them for it. I just wanted to point out what happened. It was more than understandable that Squaresoft didn't want to mess with it. It was their first 3d game and it was a HUGE game. 3 CDs on the ps version, 4 on the PC port.
Nice, I like your enthusiasm. Unrelated, I've played the PSone version probably over 10,000 hours. About 20 years ago, by total accident, I found something interesting that I've never seen mentioned online. Take Vincent in the battle arena with the Chaos limit charged. Equip the Sprint Shoes or use Speed Plus materia or use Speed Sources to get his speed beyond the max number it shows on the stat screen. I'm kinda rusty but I think your able to use 30 sources beyond max before it stops dinging after each use and makes a buzzer sound instead. I'm not exactly sure what causes this glitch, but Vincent's speed seems to be what causes it... While in the battle arena use the Chaos limit break and you should be able to control Vincent's commands at least every other turn, if I remember correctly. He'll be able to do 4x Cut (but you still hear shotgun sounds), summons, enemy skills, etc., but will use Chaos's limit attacks periodically too and also be basically immune to the slot reels. I know it's not groundbreaking or if anybody else besides myself ever discovered it, but it's really pretty fun to try out and mess with.
The reason it doesn't work in the PSX version is probably the module switching due to memory limitations. If I remember correctly, the way the PSX version of FFVII was coded was that every "mode" (battle, world map, area map, menu, mini-games, etc.) was its own module to be unloaded and reloaded by a small kernel, as needed. On the PSX, the Exchange menu could rightly assume that its cursor would never point to a missing character because it was always initialized at 0 by the kernel, you always have at least one character in the PHS, and obviously nobody will leave your PHS roster while you're in the menu. Even if the Exchange menu cursor was bugged in the PSX version, the memory you used to "smuggle" materias might get overwritten after a switch. But when Eidos ported the game to PC, memory was not an issue and Windows makes it a pain to implement module switching so they just compile every module in the .exe like a normal Windows program and that all gets mapped to memory at once without any module switching, but now a lot of memory what used to be initialized by the kernel no longer is, and obviously the Exchange menu's assumption that the cursor would always point to a valid character falls apart. It probably happens because they store the byte 255 to denote that a character is missing on the list. The programmers forgot to check if the character is missing in the Exchange menu and the game ends up looking for the materias of "character #255." Since there's only 9 characters it reads way past character memory.
What's more surprising is that the memory seamingly isn't used by anything else (flags/whatnot) *and* is still within the reserved memory block for the game so it is not attempting to access another programs memory.
However I'm not knowledgeable enough to know if windows memory manager just bandaids that buy covering up the invalid access by allocating a little more memory to the game dynamically for the glitch.
Whoa wait today is FFVII's birthday today? I never knew that! It's my birthday today too, I'm honored to share a birthday with one of my favorite games of all time!
How can people dislike this video??? It's frickin' genius! Also, hi Death been watching your videos for years! Thank you so much for all these hours of entertainment with your blind let's plays and your FF7 obliterating. Greetings from a British lass living in France!
Best FF channel on TH-cam hands down. Was hooked immediately when I found you a couple years ago with a tips/help video. Wish I could remember which video . . . The emerald weapon strat vid!
Damn, guy. It's awesome to see you STILL making content for Final Fantasy 7. Love this game, love your channel! It's wild to me that glitches are still being discovered.
FF7 always had a new game+ hidden in there even on the original Playstation version, with the debug room allowing you to restart the game with your current setup.
Yeah i used a gameshark once back in the day and it just absolutely broke the game for me. Im sure certain materia could do this as well but it was like the 1 thing i always wanted. Not armor, not ultimate weapons. Just a materia or 3
What a hilarious, insane, and mindblowing discovery! Awesome work. Makes me want to replay Final Fantasy 7 just to try this out. There are now an infinite amount of possibilities for Steam playthroughs, but you know everyone's going to pick Knights of the Round and HP/MP Switch for the hell of it. This video should blow up as soon as the internet and game sites catch wind of it.
Death, i just recently found your videos and i've been enjoying them alot. Particularly, I combined the Smuglitch with Wrong Warping to the debug room to get virtually any Materia to any point in the game which after a little running around in the debug room finally worked. At this point, it would probably easier to use a trainer of some sorts, but i really love how much you can get out of just the ressources of FFVII's gamecode by just breaking it apart. Anyways, since you're videos really inspired me to try this out in FFVII in the first place, i just wanted to share my use of that glitches with you. Hope i'll catch your Stream some time!
Oh man this is brilliant, nailed it with the comment at the end about NG+ runs haha, playing through with whatever materia you want right from the start would be fun as hell
holy f%&k, this blew my mind. like, my jaw legitimately dropped. I'm not kidding. maybe the word "smuglitch" is going to become a new word for some glitch that either is absolutely crazy or comes up so late after the game had been released (and it's so absurdly huge) that it's incredible that no one found it before. I'd use that as an actual word.
Hey Death, technically you could do this with the Steam Ver as early as the Sector 7 Graveyard, you set it up at Mako Reactor 01, then when Barrett gets removed from your party you save it at the S7 Graveyard (The Pillar Fence) & you can move all of the Materia from the end of the game to the start of the game.
Laharl Krichevskoy you’ll still need to get to the 7th heaven first to unlock the material option, so can’t do it right off the bat from the first save point. Unfortunately guard scorpion is protected from this insane glitch.
I called it “the aeris blank” but yours is more appropiate i guess. you can not get an idea of the illusion that supposes for me to have found something like that in my favorite game of all time. God save the final fantasy vii !!!!!!!
4-8Productions wow! I thought this was the video from this morning but dude, this is fucking awesome, you take it to another fucking level. God save you as well!!
Happy Birthday Final Fantasy 7, I've played every iteration of this game since the beginning, thanks for the memories and this glitch is a great time saver without any sort of gameshark, I can have everything the game offers from the beginning! Amazing finds across multiple platforms, truly great job!
@@perumames225 Since you can repeat this glitch ad nauseam it looks like it would only require 1 donor materia to get as many as you want on the destination save. Every party member could carry a decked out command or master materia with enough repetition.
I was able to do the MP+ glitch way back when original PC version came out. Used to post about it but no one ever was able to replicate. Good to see it has finally been replicated.
Roy Myers Vincent performing a mug with certain weapons will skip the next persons actions but still inflict damage. It’s like Vincent attacks you see the damage and the steal(optional), but while that took place knights of the round hit them too.
Doesn't matter how and how long I will see any video or anything related to FFVII, will give me the urge to play it again and again. I might have played this game for at least 70 times since it was released. I can't stop.
Okay, the Time Lords knew this glitch would eventually be discovered. The only way they could make things right would be to make sure the game was remade and maybe draw attention away from the original. But delayed or not, death waits for no one.
I can't believe that on the steam version you can actually send materia into other saves lol. :D that's so funny. I just saw this part, must've missed it on my first watchthrough. Thanks for the vid, so funny. 😆
It still amazes me to this day that despite the advancements in gameplay, graphics, etc of the series . Final Fantasy 7 still remains the greatest RPG of all time.
Every rerelease (not ps1) has a version of this glitch, though you can't transfer between saves except in the steam version, so it's basically just a useless materia pocket. You can smuggle materia into the Wutai side quest though.
Goes back 15 years ago shows them emulators, "blows there mind the first time" shows them smugglitch "blows there mind a second and 3rd time" for the fact that it bring alternative realities materia and u brought alternate realities info back in time,
you can potentially get master materia as early as the first bombing mission... i'm sure that's gonna redo speedrunning routes instantly considering it would only take two save smuggles to get 3 copies of one master materia, and only 3 smuggles to do something like have master summon and master magic on the active party (or have all 3 on two characters)
@@DarkFrozenDepths This wouldn't be allowed on standard Any% speedruns, as you're supposed to start from file creation. This will, however, probably create a new category called Any% New Game+, which will be specifically for this glitch. It's going to be absolutely insane!
@@ElusiveEllie I mean would it be allowed if you had a preset save with the materia that you wanted to smuggle. Then create a new file and get to a save point. Then go to the other file and do everything from there then just continue on in the new file? I don't know the rules for FFVII speedrunning. The only thing I could think of is if the rules state one continuous save file
@@Whutever42 It's sort of a speedrunning rule in general - games that are completed with outside input usually need that outside input to be included in the timing of the run itself. Meaning you can't play a game up til the final boss, save, start a new game, wrong warp into the nearly finished save, and then win the game and say you beat the game in 5 minutes, as an extreme example.
Just want to add that master materia is a bad option as it fills out the command menu. Just pick what you need. The most powerful for a speed run would be enemy away, quadramagic, KotR and HPMP. Maybe some other damage magic to make pre-vincent quicker.
Materia smuggling is such a great name for this. In one of my favorite playthroughs, I accidentally discovered a way, (probably the popular method now) to keep materia in Wutai. I just had more materia than she could steal at once, like you mentioned, but what a surprise.
Not only that, but I think you can theoreticly duplicate the materia with 2 different save files! Making Mastering Materia quickly technique kinda obselite, as you can only do it once. TL;DR if you do it smart, you can have more the one set on multiple save files, without mastering a shit ton of materia.
After trying this trick myself, I figured out that I was able to actually smuggle FIVE at once. The three slots on the bottom are usable as well for smuggling. Also, I was somehow able to get 8 MP plus materia out of the additional ghost slots.
@@4-8Productions ALAS! Foiled. I cannot reproduce it. Unless it was only because I originally did it in NT 1.5. It worked there, but vanilla is not reproducing it.
David Wilson it changes the equipments’ actual properties. Some equipment has different locations as well. But you start with the same things. I think it may have been just how the code was changed. I haven’t been able to replicate my results in vanilla
I encountered a glitch I'm not sure if it has come to light a while ago, final fantasy VI on nintendo ds, daryls tomb, angler whelk sub boss fight. I went for the chest and was met with something completely random. It ended up looking like pokemons missing no. and performed its attacks like normal, upon defeating this weird glitch boss I noticed that all of my inventory was maxed out to 999 but also took up multiple slots to the point it filled out the entire inventory with mostly potions and Phoenix downs as well as 99 of all other items currently in inventory except a few that dropped because I guess there wasnt enough memory space for the inventory to expand past its allowed slotting. I'm not sure of this works for any and all monsters or just the whelk but of not discovered elsewhere it may need some research.
@@davidwilson6577 I was thinking "None of this only 2 materia with Trine nonsense." Well, whichever skill stops being learnable before the third normal Enemy Skill becomes available.
@@Jikkuryuu ah yeah. You can get trine in Mt. Gaia (Thar's what it's called right? The ice mountain) from the Materia Keeper-looking enemies I think, but someone mentioned Pandora's Box, and there might be others.
All four Enemy Skill materias can learn every skill in the game! You just have to hold off on defeating Godo until you have the Highwind. The Wutai sidequest is available until you return to Midgar at the end of disc 2.
When you mentioned the save point thing it reminds me of a miserable memory from my childhood where I had a maxed out clock with all ultimate weapons and multiple gold chocobos that I accidentally saved over with a new playthrough. I pulled my memory card part way through the save, lost the original data but had items from my original save in my new game. I also was never able to breed a gold chocobo on that save.
Can't wait to try this out! You may have seen this before Death but just in case, I've just uploaded a video of "When you defeat Emerald weapon but run out of time" on my channel. Made possible by long battle animations and impeccable timing haha
After today, this 23 year old game still never ceases to amaze me. It’s nuts.
How many hours do you think passing master materia will save on the speed run?
Guard scorpion vs full enemy skill 💕
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Yeah, but it sounds like it doesn't actually work on the 23 year old version......
See... Random number generators, are awesome... 😂
Smuggling materia into Wutai fits so well thematically it might as well be canon
And to think I used to tackle this area by fleeing battles and having all 3 tier 3 Limit breaks ready for a 1 round of ownage against, Rapps? I always forget that damn things name.
So this is how they got summon materia in the remake!
Underrated comment right here.
I don't get it.
@@MsHojat In the Remake, the party has access to Shiva, Ifrit and Leviathan all in Midgar (supposedly but we saw it in footage)
You get them much later in the OG so the party used this glitch in the remake to get them :)
Ruxis also bahamet
I wonder where she smuggled them though.
Happy Birthday FFVII! I'm sorry I've done this to you.
FFVII, the abused housewife of games. We love it, but we love breaking it too
You are literally the end boss to FF7
Touch Me F
Hahahaha
the possible craziness!! lol
"...but first we need to talk about parallel universe save files."
I see it already:
Rufus: "So we can not be Friends."
Cloud: "No but i brought you 13 new Friends. Knights of the Round!"
lol rufus is gonna have a bad time
This episode felt like christmas.
Everytime I thought Death was finished, he'd say "However..." and my brain would go off like "But wait, there's more!"
BTW, of course there's exactly 7 different parts in the game where this can happen. Yet another allusion to the number 7.
Knights of round taking turns attacking early game shinra soldiers.
Everyone: Stop! They're already dead!
But they're Shinra dogs. They deserve a thousand deaths over.
@raihan abmny Before, yes, but no longer as they realized the error of their ways
Inujosha not really an error more like “I’ll do anything to be amazing and noticed” oh also PTSD of witnessing his friend die 🤣🤣
@@justsomeguy4422 😅😅
Duro, monsta kado
Barret: Wha-?! When did YOU get to summon that!?
Cloud: Hm? Oh, I stole it. From the future.
THISSS!! YOU MADE MY DAY.
Woah my brain read that in the voices of the new trailers.
@@YoungMachette their voices will always come from Team4Star for me. Lmao
Future Yuffie is gonna be mad as _fuck._
If only he could smuggle the black materia.
You will be in a speed run documentary for finding this glitch.
@ZeoDyce in FF7, the steam speedrun community is the one to watch.
Most games stick to the original, sure. But, with FF7, the game is so much easier to manipulate on steam (without mods), that's the community that stays the most active... Because shit like this is still being discovered.
This will seriously drop hours off of the #1 speedruns. Compare that to the Mario community, which recently FREAKED THE FUCK OUT because they dropped .8 of a second.
@@bronsoncarder2491 what was the mario time save that was discovered?
@ZeoDyce steam speedruns are the only ones people care about
@@microberry1211 As far as I'm aware it wasn't really a trick or method but rather someone just improved on a time through sheer mechanics or play.
@@bronsoncarder2491 False equivalency, and look, it hasn't impacted speedruns whatsoever. I doubt it'd even be allowed. It's save game manipulation/cheating, plain and simple. It just so happens that the game's code is so fragile that you don't need 3rd party tools to manipulate it into doing some weird things. Yuffie warping isn't allowed in legitimate speedruns, nor will this ever be.
Instead of us giving something back to FFVII on its birthday (because of its impact during our childhood), it actually gave us something... AGAIN. The game that keeps on giving man.
Yup. Remember all the childhood with ...wait.
As someone who works in software testing/triaging for a career, this makes me happy because it’s never about ‘ what you test’ but ‘how you test it’
So on FFVII's 23rd birthday, smuglitch is found. RIP FFVII. Never forget
Clouds Buster Sword (2 slots) must be the default base projected on the additional memory slot
*Smuggles Knights of the Round back to the beginning of the game*
*Realizes the animation takes too long and can't be bothered to use it*
also realizes the mp cost would be too much
@@nathanielbass771 that's why he transfered HP/MP Switch Materia.
@@RoderickEtheria Yup. I checked his MP and he was still sitting over 300 after summoning it. You can just max out mp hp swap and have nuts MP at level 1 xD
@@nathanielbass771 thats what the HPMP materia is for.
@@MysticWarriorMJ in fact, it's the one time in the game that HPMP might actually be useful, since enemies aren't hitting you for 4 digits of damage. :D
"final fantasy 7's code is held together with tape"
Tape is being generous...used chewing gum is more like it.
It’s like when spongebob and Patrick made an entire river ride glued together with earwax, and then only half as sturdy as that.
Used scotch tape with hair all over it
As a programmer, I can say with certainty that most code in the world is held together with tape.
Tape rope and bubblegum and a bit of tin foil
Can't believe it's been over a quarter-century since FFVII came out, fucking wild
2020 and we're still finding glitches for this amazing game, this is something I love about the ff7 community.
A completed Enemy Skill materia at the beginning of the game would be awesome.
Absolutely
Big brain
Wonder how the enemy skill learned skills save to memory though. Highly doubt it would work since this glitch only seems to copy the type of materia. There's no way they have a different hex code for every single potential variable of enemy skill sadly.
I don't think there's any universe where you would code the game like that as it would be just the epitome of inefficient coding.
Sorry dudes. Feel free to test it but nah
@@ryandean8586 It wouldn't necessarily be inefficient. Suppose that each piece of materia is encoded in 32 bits (which is probably true since its a 32-bit console). There are 83 different materia types, including Enemy skills.
log_2(83) = 6.4, so you need 7 bits to encode the materia type. And you probably want one bit for checksum purposes. That leaves you 24 bits. As it happens, there are 24 enemy skills available to learn.
So you could use each of those 24 bits to encode whether the associated enemy skill has (1) been learned or not (0).
all I can think is this done twice can get all four master materia to quite literally the beginning of the game >.>
Just... outstanding I am wordless
Damn, i read worthless... twice. took me third time to notice
yeah, that's like having New Game Plus, but better.
You could literally do that like.. 18 times so that all characters had a copy of all master materia's and then completely shut down every encounter the game has to offer.
This is some gameshark-type shit, and literally the only version of the game safe from it is the original disk copy xD
@@TRNFloyd no, it only works on steam.
The other version of the glitch only gets you 2 (14?) mp+ materia.
It also require you to have a save file with those materia...
@@saafi9723 the smuggle into wutai part also works outside of steam
even 23 years later this game feels fresh and challenging ~ happy bday to this masterpiece ♥️
Attack when it's tail is up.... oh never mind... Knights of the Round.
That is a mistranslation. Needed to be "if you attack when its tail is up, its gonna counterattack with its laser". If you just wait, it doesnt attack at all and lowers its tail after a few seconds
@@JuddMan03 not a mis translation, that's how barret talks, you do that, it's on you
other chars in the game will say something like, don't do that, or else it'll mean x
i've never believed the mistranslation or troll, this is just barret's way of speaking
@@Bjorick problem is, tone is not conveyed well in text
@@JuddMan03 i thought they did a good job, i foudn that the main issue is that it happens so early in the game before you're used to barret
it's really just a rehash of the first boss fight in ff6 though, it's a gimick fight in a game with very few gimick fights, imo.
@@Bjorick It's a rehash of the first boss in every FF since the ATB sistem.
This is why people say “if it ain’t broke, don’t fix it.”
That holds especially true if something is barely held together in the first place.
I think it's more like "if its broke don't brake it any more" xD
Thing is, during the development of ff7, the devs made it, they knew it was broken as hell, but they somehow got a build that runs the game well, with no "obvious" bugs. They didn't know why it worked and didn't want to break it again so they just shipped it the way it was.
Actually no. A far a I understand the non-PS1 versions of the game are based off an unfinished near-release development version off FF7 which had less bugfixes and such. Over time though as the versions evolved more bugs were fixed, if not even more than the original.
@@Igor_servant_of_Philemon I mean, I don't blame them. It was the nineties, it was a 3d game (which was a VERY new concept at the time,) and it's a pretty damn big game even by today's standards. Ambitious even for today- your choices actually matter to an extent, there are many branching pathways of dialogue and events (the affection meter with the girls, dressing up for Corneo to see if he picks you or Tifa, (idk if Aeris can be picked it's never happened to me) all the dialogue choices, etc.) you can lose certain things and still continue on (on my first playthrough, I got ONE huge materia because I was good at fighting and literally nothing else. I got the Fort Condor materia even after losing the minigame because all it required was killing a monster. Which I am rather skilled at.)
If I tried to make it even now (granted my game development experience is limited to very simple 2d arcade games that look like they're from the seventies) it would be broken as fuck too.
@@UselessGoddess378 I never wanted to shame them for it. I just wanted to point out what happened. It was more than understandable that Squaresoft didn't want to mess with it. It was their first 3d game and it was a HUGE game. 3 CDs on the ps version, 4 on the PC port.
Nice, I like your enthusiasm. Unrelated, I've played the PSone version probably over 10,000 hours. About 20 years ago, by total accident, I found something interesting that I've never seen mentioned online.
Take Vincent in the battle arena with the Chaos limit charged. Equip the Sprint Shoes or use Speed Plus materia or use Speed Sources to get his speed beyond the max number it shows on the stat screen. I'm kinda rusty but I think your able to use 30 sources beyond max before it stops dinging after each use and makes a buzzer sound instead. I'm not exactly sure what causes this glitch, but Vincent's speed seems to be what causes it...
While in the battle arena use the Chaos limit break and you should be able to control Vincent's commands at least every other turn, if I remember correctly. He'll be able to do 4x Cut (but you still hear shotgun sounds), summons, enemy skills, etc., but will use Chaos's limit attacks periodically too and also be basically immune to the slot reels.
I know it's not groundbreaking or if anybody else besides myself ever discovered it, but it's really pretty fun to try out and mess with.
I'm glad you mention your stats actually go beyond 255 and that it's just the display cap. I feel it's very little known
It's so cool that more glitches are still being found to this day!
The reason it doesn't work in the PSX version is probably the module switching due to memory limitations. If I remember correctly, the way the PSX version of FFVII was coded was that every "mode" (battle, world map, area map, menu, mini-games, etc.) was its own module to be unloaded and reloaded by a small kernel, as needed. On the PSX, the Exchange menu could rightly assume that its cursor would never point to a missing character because it was always initialized at 0 by the kernel, you always have at least one character in the PHS, and obviously nobody will leave your PHS roster while you're in the menu. Even if the Exchange menu cursor was bugged in the PSX version, the memory you used to "smuggle" materias might get overwritten after a switch.
But when Eidos ported the game to PC, memory was not an issue and Windows makes it a pain to implement module switching so they just compile every module in the .exe like a normal Windows program and that all gets mapped to memory at once without any module switching, but now a lot of memory what used to be initialized by the kernel no longer is, and obviously the Exchange menu's assumption that the cursor would always point to a valid character falls apart.
It probably happens because they store the byte 255 to denote that a character is missing on the list. The programmers forgot to check if the character is missing in the Exchange menu and the game ends up looking for the materias of "character #255." Since there's only 9 characters it reads way past character memory.
What's more surprising is that the memory seamingly isn't used by anything else (flags/whatnot) *and* is still within the reserved memory block for the game so it is not attempting to access another programs memory.
However I'm not knowledgeable enough to know if windows memory manager just bandaids that buy covering up the invalid access by allocating a little more memory to the game dynamically for the glitch.
Right? What the hell were they thinking?
Whoa wait today is FFVII's birthday today? I never knew that! It's my birthday today too, I'm honored to share a birthday with one of my favorite games of all time!
Happy Birthday
Happy Birthday!! 🎉
Thanks guys! 32 today, I hear it's all downhill from here 😬
@@kanardy Nah, man, you've got plenty of life left to live! I bet you'll only get better with age! 💛
I thought this game came out September of 97. I got it for Christmas of 97
How can people dislike this video??? It's frickin' genius!
Also, hi Death been watching your videos for years! Thank you so much for all these hours of entertainment with your blind let's plays and your FF7 obliterating. Greetings from a British lass living in France!
Thanks!
Some men just want to watch the world burn.
"wuuuuh" felt like when i did the w-item glitch on the psx for the first time stunned and amazed like i just discovered fire
When i clicked on this video, i expected you to use save editor or some shit, but this. This my man, is Legendary.
T'Challa: "We don't do that here."
The fabled Smuglitch!
Smug Yuffie Intensifies
what's up smuglitches
What up muglitches ? 😎
This is my favorite comment. ^^
*4-8 production exists*
Speedrunners: it's free real estate
Wyt jokes
Damn bro
Best FF channel on TH-cam hands down. Was hooked immediately when I found you a couple years ago with a tips/help video. Wish I could remember which video . . .
The emerald weapon strat vid!
Thanks!
“Ultimate End” indeed
Damn, guy. It's awesome to see you STILL making content for Final Fantasy 7. Love this game, love your channel!
It's wild to me that glitches are still being discovered.
Me: sees glitches
You: 20 year old. Glitches
Me: an intellectual... Ahh the new game plus i have been waiting for
I was thinking the same thing but im 23 so close enough
FF7 always had a new game+ hidden in there even on the original Playstation version, with the debug room allowing you to restart the game with your current setup.
Yeah i used a gameshark once back in the day and it just absolutely broke the game for me. Im sure certain materia could do this as well but it was like the 1 thing i always wanted. Not armor, not ultimate weapons. Just a materia or 3
Hell yeah that sounds like fun 👌
What a hilarious, insane, and mindblowing discovery! Awesome work. Makes me want to replay Final Fantasy 7 just to try this out. There are now an infinite amount of possibilities for Steam playthroughs, but you know everyone's going to pick Knights of the Round and HP/MP Switch for the hell of it.
This video should blow up as soon as the internet and game sites catch wind of it.
master materia would be better, master summon then theres no negative effects, and hpmp. but you can do it infinitely on steam so anything is possible
bigstop yeah completely forgot about Master Summon. A playthrough with that materia from the beginning would actually be hilarious to watch.
Very nice! this is crazy. i have played this game so many years and watched your videos too. didn't think this was possible
All I can possibly say is just, wow. This opens up crazy possibilities
Death, i just recently found your videos and i've been enjoying them alot. Particularly, I combined the Smuglitch with Wrong Warping to the debug room to get virtually any Materia to any point in the game which after a little running around in the debug room finally worked.
At this point, it would probably easier to use a trainer of some sorts, but i really love how much you can get out of just the ressources of FFVII's gamecode by just breaking it apart.
Anyways, since you're videos really inspired me to try this out in FFVII in the first place, i just wanted to share my use of that glitches with you.
Hope i'll catch your Stream some time!
This will change everything about the speedrun.
Agdq 2021!
Oh man this is brilliant, nailed it with the comment at the end about NG+ runs haha, playing through with whatever materia you want right from the start would be fun as hell
holy f%&k, this blew my mind. like, my jaw legitimately dropped. I'm not kidding.
maybe the word "smuglitch" is going to become a new word for some glitch that either is absolutely crazy or comes up so late after the game had been released (and it's so absurdly huge) that it's incredible that no one found it before.
I'd use that as an actual word.
Hey Death, technically you could do this with the Steam Ver as early as the Sector 7 Graveyard, you set it up at Mako Reactor 01, then when Barrett gets removed from your party you save it at the S7 Graveyard (The Pillar Fence) & you can move all of the Materia from the end of the game to the start of the game.
This means you can legit do the mphp could solo run
Laharl Krichevskoy you’ll still need to get to the 7th heaven first to unlock the material option, so can’t do it right off the bat from the first save point. Unfortunately guard scorpion is protected from this insane glitch.
"Good thing I got a dragon to help me Game Over quicker" - you know you're in for some magic when you say that.
(wonders why he didn't just cast Ultima on himself tho)
I called it “the aeris blank” but yours is more appropiate i guess. you can not get an idea of the illusion that supposes for me to have found something like that in my favorite game of all time.
God save the final fantasy vii !!!!!!!
It is truly the game that never stops giving!
4-8Productions wow! I thought this was the video from this morning but dude, this is fucking awesome, you take it to another fucking level. God save you as well!!
Gg finding it. I like 'Aerith's magical secret pocket' tho.
Wow! This adds another thing to the 7’s in this game... this breaks everything!
Those 117 dislikes are all enemies located on the first disc.
Happy Birthday Final Fantasy 7, I've played every iteration of this game since the beginning, thanks for the memories and this glitch is a great time saver without any sort of gameshark, I can have everything the game offers from the beginning! Amazing finds across multiple platforms, truly great job!
You played the japanese original too?
Smuglitch for life! Glad I got to witness this live, haha.
We keep finding glitches so insane in this game! God I love final fantasy vii
I can’t believe what I’m seeing....this is like being able to use Sephiroth the whole game or resurrecting Aerith...broken into a million pieces.
if you play the good version of ff7; New Threat, you can rez Aerith if you want.
The yuffie warp glitch can be used to keep aerith in your party, more as a ghost than alive. Seriously alters the mood of the rest of the game.
question: does it remember the level of the materia? also if you copy an Enemy Skill materia does it remember learned skills?
Yes and yes.
@@4-8Productions wow i could start a game with a mastered enemy skill?! that is both awesome and ridiculous.
OMG you can get four fricking materia if you level the first two just right
@@perumames225 Since you can repeat this glitch ad nauseam it looks like it would only require 1 donor materia to get as many as you want on the destination save. Every party member could carry a decked out command or master materia with enough repetition.
@@StephenBallenger This is exactly what I was thinking. Get the Master Materia and just deck the entire party out with it.
I was able to do the MP+ glitch way back when original PC version came out. Used to post about it but no one ever was able to replicate. Good to see it has finally been replicated.
Now the speed run is a race to Vincent for the mug glitch. Boss fights just got to 5 seconds!
Roy Myers Vincent performing a mug with certain weapons will skip the next persons actions but still inflict damage. It’s like Vincent attacks you see the damage and the steal(optional), but while that took place knights of the round hit them too.
Welp, I'm uninstalling. Nothing left to break here folks, run along now.
Nah son, have you learned nothing from the OoT scene?
Doesn't matter how and how long I will see any video or anything related to FFVII, will give me the urge to play it again and again.
I might have played this game for at least 70 times since it was released. I can't stop.
6:25 Wow, I can't believe this. FF7 got itself some more speedrun fun, right there.
Okay, the Time Lords knew this glitch would eventually be discovered. The only way they could make things right would be to make sure the game was remade and maybe draw attention away from the original. But delayed or not, death waits for no one.
Best smuglitch ever found bar none 😂😂😂 Eat your heart out Square. Smuglitch2020 ®™
Best time I ever had on a live stream. The laughs shared today were beyond the best. Thank you Death 👍
"There's another piece to this puzzle that changes.......Everything" 😂😂
18:49 19:33 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
I can't believe that on the steam version you can actually send materia into other saves lol. :D that's so funny. I just saw this part, must've missed it on my first watchthrough. Thanks for the vid, so funny. 😆
Again...you did it again Death!
Amazing find.
You are just cranking out the glitches. Congratulations on becoming possibly THE most important FFVII streamer right now!
Glad to have been there when it was discovered!
I can only hope that the remake has videos like this coming out 20+ years from now.
Smuglitch stream was great, you legend
It still amazes me to this day that despite the advancements in gameplay, graphics, etc of the series . Final Fantasy 7 still remains the greatest RPG of all time.
BETWEEN FILES? this is way crazier and bigger than W-Item dup, imagine showing this to people 15 years ago.
As long as 15 years ago it wasnt on the ps1disc cant be done on the original. Only other versions with the other being steam only
@@codybear5840 I know, just conceptually. Just a grab bag of a date range really.
Every rerelease (not ps1) has a version of this glitch, though you can't transfer between saves except in the steam version, so it's basically just a useless materia pocket. You can smuggle materia into the Wutai side quest though.
Goes back 15 years ago shows them emulators, "blows there mind the first time" shows them smugglitch "blows there mind a second and 3rd time" for the fact that it bring alternative realities materia and u brought alternate realities info back in time,
It’s incredible that things like the W-item glitch were known pretty much at release and then, decades later, new ones are still popping up.
Holy crap that is super op. Like seriously I'm sure speedrunning FF7 will change because of this
you can potentially get master materia as early as the first bombing mission... i'm sure that's gonna redo speedrunning routes instantly considering it would only take two save smuggles to get 3 copies of one master materia, and only 3 smuggles to do something like have master summon and master magic on the active party (or have all 3 on two characters)
@@DarkFrozenDepths This wouldn't be allowed on standard Any% speedruns, as you're supposed to start from file creation. This will, however, probably create a new category called Any% New Game+, which will be specifically for this glitch. It's going to be absolutely insane!
@@ElusiveEllie I mean would it be allowed if you had a preset save with the materia that you wanted to smuggle. Then create a new file and get to a save point. Then go to the other file and do everything from there then just continue on in the new file? I don't know the rules for FFVII speedrunning. The only thing I could think of is if the rules state one continuous save file
@@Whutever42 It's sort of a speedrunning rule in general - games that are completed with outside input usually need that outside input to be included in the timing of the run itself. Meaning you can't play a game up til the final boss, save, start a new game, wrong warp into the nearly finished save, and then win the game and say you beat the game in 5 minutes, as an extreme example.
Just want to add that master materia is a bad option as it fills out the command menu. Just pick what you need. The most powerful for a speed run would be enemy away, quadramagic, KotR and HPMP. Maybe some other damage magic to make pre-vincent quicker.
You figured this out in just 5 hours. I suppose I would never have figured this out......
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Knights Of The Round confirmed for Smash!
It was probably smuggled in.
Materia smuggling is such a great name for this. In one of my favorite playthroughs, I accidentally discovered a way, (probably the popular method now) to keep materia in Wutai. I just had more materia than she could steal at once, like you mentioned, but what a surprise.
The glitch to rule them all. The final glitch. NG+ runs lol. NG+ speedruns lol
These glitches have come a far way from the "open the lid on your OG Playstion for free UN-interuppted Regen"! Those were the days.... ;)
Does that mean I can transfer all the Mastered Materia from my late game save to a brand new one?
Yes, but only 2, and only in steam
Don't you mean only 2 at a time? Rinse and repeat?
@@tobyf.7139 Yeah, mine is a Steam one.
Not only that, but I think you can theoreticly duplicate the materia with 2 different save files! Making Mastering Materia quickly technique kinda obselite, as you can only do it once. TL;DR if you do it smart, you can have more the one set on multiple save files, without mastering a shit ton of materia.
@@viktorblack2792 you only need one set, as the save you're leeching from doesn't lose the materia. It dupes it into the new save basically.
So you can effectively move all your mastered materia from one game file to a brand new file? That’s incredible!
The Best FF 7 Gamer ever, best regards from germany :)
I. SHOULD. NOT. KNOW. THIS! THIS IS AWESOME! I love this glitch, Death_unite_us, you are a god! :D
Me: Mom, can we get New Game+?
Mom: We have New Game+ at home.
New Game+ at home:
After trying this trick myself, I figured out that I was able to actually smuggle FIVE at once. The three slots on the bottom are usable as well for smuggling. Also, I was somehow able to get 8 MP plus materia out of the additional ghost slots.
I'd be interested to hear how this is possible!
@@4-8Productions if I get time I will either record it or get a write up for it and reply again
@@4-8Productions ALAS! Foiled. I cannot reproduce it. Unless it was only because I originally did it in NT 1.5. It worked there, but vanilla is not reproducing it.
Does NT add a different armor at the start?
David Wilson it changes the equipments’ actual properties. Some equipment has different locations as well. But you start with the same things. I think it may have been just how the code was changed. I haven’t been able to replicate my results in vanilla
Tested this on my phone and it works like the steam version!
Android version its same steam version?
@@marcelohermann2590 right they ported that version
That's tasty
I just wanted to have double cur early in the game. Thanks
I encountered a glitch I'm not sure if it has come to light a while ago, final fantasy VI on nintendo ds, daryls tomb, angler whelk sub boss fight. I went for the chest and was met with something completely random. It ended up looking like pokemons missing no. and performed its attacks like normal, upon defeating this weird glitch boss I noticed that all of my inventory was maxed out to 999 but also took up multiple slots to the point it filled out the entire inventory with mostly potions and Phoenix downs as well as 99 of all other items currently in inventory except a few that dropped because I guess there wasnt enough memory space for the inventory to expand past its allowed slotting. I'm not sure of this works for any and all monsters or just the whelk but of not discovered elsewhere it may need some research.
everyone knows that the big bang and existence as we know it is nothing more than the product of a FF7 glitch
Setting aside all the completely insane stuff this opens up, starting a game with three Enemy Skill materia would be great.
Why not a hundred? OK I know why. But y'could.
@@davidwilson6577 I was thinking "None of this only 2 materia with Trine nonsense." Well, whichever skill stops being learnable before the third normal Enemy Skill becomes available.
@@Jikkuryuu ah yeah. You can get trine in Mt. Gaia (Thar's what it's called right? The ice mountain) from the Materia Keeper-looking enemies I think, but someone mentioned Pandora's Box, and there might be others.
All four Enemy Skill materias can learn every skill in the game! You just have to hold off on defeating Godo until you have the Highwind. The Wutai sidequest is available until you return to Midgar at the end of disc 2.
This is amazing and extra MP + as well, this is almost too good
Dark Dragon watching Cloud, Tifa, and Barret kill themselves with rockets: 👁👄👁
Wow this is neat, this changes everything, nice find
Time to dupe some master materia to the beginning of the game. And some mastered all materia.
Mime+counter
When you mentioned the save point thing it reminds me of a miserable memory from my childhood where I had a maxed out clock with all ultimate weapons and multiple gold chocobos that I accidentally saved over with a new playthrough. I pulled my memory card part way through the save, lost the original data but had items from my original save in my new game. I also was never able to breed a gold chocobo on that save.
now this is frickin' awesome, great find lol omg
Imagine you’re just a random Shinra worker barely making it and somebody goes and summons KotR on you at work
Ff7 messed up code is part of what made it so fun. Remake won’t have that
im sure it will. just w8 another 23 years to see how much ppl will break it
Gs: 😆yes it will.😏
You have broke the game
You have broke my mind
BUT YOU CANT BREAK MY LOVE
* Milk comes flying out my nose *
veghesther must be shitting her pants at being able to KOTR even MORE bosses now.
Dude is that a Wile Coyote plush I see in the background? I thought I was the only one...
Can't wait to try this out!
You may have seen this before Death but just in case, I've just uploaded a video of "When you defeat Emerald weapon but run out of time" on my channel. Made possible by long battle animations and impeccable timing haha