What is Islam's view of homosexuality? Dr. Shabir Ally answers
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- JIMAS Conference 2012 presents: Fortifying the Soul - Ennobling the Spirit: A talk by Dr. Shabir Ally
Dr. Shabir Ally holds a B.A. in Religious Studies from Laurentian University in Sudbury, Ontario, with a specialization in Biblical Literature, an M.A. in Religious Studies from the University of Toronto with a specialization in Quranic Exegesis and a PhD studies in Quranic Exegesis at the University of Toronto.
Dr. Shabir is the founder of the Islamic Information and Da'wah Centre in Toronto, Canada.
He currently teaches Arabic at the University of Toronto.
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I am not a Muslim but I do enjoy listening to him, a great mind regardless if you agree with him or not, he should be the spokesman for Islam as he introduces the ideology in a very intelligent and interesting manner, worthy of conversation .
@@hikayaworld homosexuality doesn't cause HIV you scientifically illiterate ignorant troglodyte. But being scientifically illiterate ignorant troglodytes is what Islam is all about isn't it?
God bless you brother. Type in Ahmed Deedat in you tube and check it out the truth.
Bob you are right. In some traditions of Islam outside the Qur'an, it suggests Muslims should not fraternise with persons considered wrongdoers. It is often called purdah - putting a curtain between yourself and others. It says nothing about killing prostitutes, people on drugs or petty thieves, just do not associate with them. Only God knows the truth about what people do. Th Bible also says I am not my brother's keeper. It is not the concern of others to highlight minor crimes of others. The Prophet himself turned his face from those telling him their sins. If told him three times he apologised that he would have to pronounce punishment if they told him three times. I have read a hadith saying that Muslims should remove themselves from the company of homosexuals and nothing more.
@@hikayaworld It is certainly true that most children going through puberty get involved in acts that may be considered as homosexual such as touching or hazing. Are you saying children as young as five should be thrown off cliffs. Despite I have never found that hadith. Homosexuality has been or is not uncommon in historical Royal Courts in Muslim countries. In Arabia, historically orphans have been known to survive by homosexuality. This is recorded by Laurence of Arabia. We also know that sexual assault of prisoners is not uncommon in the Arab peninsula.
@@samuelvimes7686 Why do you guys always use the one wrong of a Muslim and then use it against all Muslims?
I wish all muslim scholars were like this sheikh he explained it as it should be explained he did not change any thing he told you exactly what the quran says not his personal feelings good job shiekh god bless you
I love this guy. He's becoming my favorite Sheik.
Islam gives answers... this particular one makes me more & more attracted to Islam. Shabir is not only a gift but a blessing to Islam as well.
When I was young I used to beg God, "Why did you make me this way?" The response I received ranged from silence to "I'm sorry" to "I had to so that you would understand." Many years later I think I do finally understand, whether I wanted it or not God gave me the gift of an open mind, an ability to know what it feels like to be in the minority. God never made me feel less than human, other human beings did that. There were times when I did not feel like going on and it was God who said, "Please keep going just a little longer, I love you. I've already lost one son, I don't need to lose another." Some of you believe this is a choice, and in a way you are right - any one of us can choose not to have sex, but it's a lot harder to "choose" who you fall in love with. I think a being of infinite wisdom and compassion can tell the difference between a loving, committed relationship and a lustful, promiscuous one. I have already made my peace with God, but for those still suffering I would ask you to consider allowing committed relationships, to allow someone to exist in a stable, secure, loving way rather than be condemned to a lifetime of shame and loneliness and/or promiscuity. They have done studies that seem to indicate for every male child a mother bears the chances of at least one of them being gay increase. To me this makes perfect sense because if you already have a big family you don't need more babies, you need an extra set of hands to help. None of us are perfect. I now choose to see this gift as a blessing, not a curse. The divine made me understand what love really is. It's not a simple mechanical act, it is not what is between the legs, love is felt with the heart.
That is so true honestly
I love your comment. "God never made me feel less than human, other human beings did that." - It's an entire life of pain and confusion on connecting religion with your feelings/intellect summarized into one
Love this guy! He is obviously a devout Muslim. But understands that the World has evolved since the writing of the Holy Bible and the Qu'ran. I love his views on pork too.
The World would be a much better place with more of him!
I agree, but I was somewhat disappointed to hear him say that one should refrain from same sex acts just as a child molester should refrain from his/her predilliction. Same sex acts based on mutual consent of mature adults is between them as Sabir Ally himself said, whereas child molestation is predatory and destructive. His association of the two issues, even in passing, was unfortunate and, my cynical side says, perhaps even intentional. Other than that, he tends to be measured and compassionate in his lectures on a variety of subjects. It's sad that he has to labour to reconcile a sometimes cruel and oppressive ideology with modern values.......
Glory be to God, Allah Taala mentions how atrocious this act is when He mentions Lot's people, connected to this is the Hadith.
In Abu Dawud, hadith 4447.
Ibn Abbas reported, the Messenger Of Allah said, ''If you find anyone doing as Lot's people did, kill the one who does it, and to the one whom its done''.
Athar statement 4448, Ibn Abbas said, '' If a man who is not married is seized committing sodomy, he will be stoned to death.
This death penalty is the position of Malik and Ahmed and Shafii and Hanifi. So is anyone going to challenge this?
Actually, this is also the position in the Bible.
lifestransitory1 hahaha
"If a man who is not married is seized committing sodomy, he will be stoned to death"
What a ridiculous stupid, backward verse
Does this mean a married man is fine to have anal sex with anyone? Who knows?
Because GOD did not write the verse, some man called Ibn Abbas did.
Was Abbas a God, a Prophet?
NOPE - just a man who could write
Dave Roberts You need to open your EYES and read, God prohibited it in all the scriptures, and the Prophets, the statements are like a puzzle and needed to be put together to get the complete picture, you cant isolate it as you have done, your silly question is already answered in the post, and you think, that Ibn Abbas is a verse makes me worry about the level of your understanding in theology.
"The scriptures are like a puzzle"
Yes, agreed.
But they were written by MEN
Please name me which of Mohammeds 'companions' were deemed to have heard the Word of God through the Angel Gabriel.
The answer in..NONE
Once Mohammed was dead they could (and did) write anything they wanted.
Who can verify that what they wrote was true?
He is very comprehensive & accurate. He can able to teach quran even to closed minded christians like me or atheists...
Very comprehensive minded person this elder man is.
do you want to learn Qurán?
YES
@@Faiselmoha especially in Arabic
Most interesting Muslim speaker I've seen. Thoughtful guy. Don't know where he's from but if there were more like him in the U.S., Islam might be much more well received.
He's Canadian. More of him everywhere would be a wonderful thing.
There are so many Islamic scholars that are more open minded and genuinely kind people including Nouman Ali Khan, Mufti Menk
he is Guyanese.
Mashaa' Allah... the world has good number of awesome scholars ... may Allah bless them and give them power over power... I love this scholar brother Shabir ...
Amiine
I agree with this man strongly. But we are living in a modern society where Homosexuality is not a moral issue. We don't cut the hands of people who steal (except Saudi Arabia) anymore because it is inhumane. Same as killing homosexuals for entirely being themselves and minding their business. Believe it or not, you've met a homosexual before, your family member, friend or just a certain stranger. You can't tell which is a homosexual. People need to understand that we humans have to understand that our society is a peaceful one compare to before.
Jean Ulrich do you also agree with him saying that same sex marriage and sexual relationship are not permitted? Don't just absorb what fits ur agenda
So stealing a person's things they might have worked years for is humane, right? Plus, just look at the rate of crime in Saudi Arabia. And no, we don't kill gays anymore. There is no clear punishment to it.
This intervention of brother Shabir is far more better than the recent that he does on this topic. May Allah guide us all. Ameen.
The World NEEDS - THIS islam.
Dr , there is also hadith along with quran ,and in many hadith the punishment of gays is given , how can you limit yourself only to quran though there is an authentic sourse Hadith as well
Plz give reference.
Yes, i was also thinking so.
That's because not all hadiths are considered authentic. If one hadith has even one flaw it may be not correct.
Quran is the prime guidance, this scholar is right. Do not sesrch for harshness always.
The hadith is shit made up by those seeking political gain.
but mashallah a suberb eye opening answer ya Allah grant shabbir ali and all muslimeens highest rank in jannah
Homosexual relations are wrong but we must also respect gay people. Offer them help to get help with their mental illness, not mock them. Many gay people are victims of brainwashing by society and the media, we should offer help not hate.
I agree. My one son told me when he was in 7th grade he felt he was different. He told his gramma, "Why would I chose to be someone people hate and want to kill? When I had to accept myself as I was, I looked into the mirror and said, 'NOOOOOOOOO' " He is a wonderful man and I love him dearly. His partner is a beautiful soul also. Thanks for your wisdom once again. People have to respect others for who they'are' and the choices they make not judge them.
This was the best explanation of homosexuality pertaining to Muslims that I have ever heard I always felt some way about Muslims and their religion before this I really appreciate listening to this
May Allah protect us from falling in tht act Ameen. God created man and women not man and man or women and women subhanallah.
jazakallahukhairan.... may be the first and best one homosexuality and islam.. amazing.. May Allah reward the uploader and Imaam Shabir Ally with best and bless them all! Ameen!
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Dr. Shabir Ally you did menson what the QURAN SAY ABOUT HOMOSEXUALITY
Qur'an 7:80-82 D you running away from the topic
What? There is no mention of killing. There is only the understanding that Allah has decreed that the act is deemed haraam and wrong, just like adultery and fornication etc.
Why are you beating around the bushes, are you trying to acknowledge the Canadian law through Islam, marriage of homosexual is legal ? I was impressed with your knowledge until I watched this video. These are the signs of people with tremendous knowledge will mislead the Muslim Ummah, knowledge without the Guidance of Allah (SWT) is darkness. Are you telling your opinion is better than this ?
Narrated Abdullah ibn Abbas: The Prophet (peace be upon him) said: If you find anyone doing as Lot’s people did, kill the one who does it, and the one to whom it is done.
Sunan of Abu-Dawood - Book 38 Hadith 4447
Narrated Abdullah ibn Abbas: If a man who is not married is seized committing sodomy, he will be stoned to death.
Sunan of Abu-Dawood - Book 38 Hadith 4448
Let me ask you this sir: does your religion help you to discriminate people or to love peole? Because that makes the most wide difference possible.
all religions do not accept homosexuality
This is how we should answer whomever approaches us as homosexual. By love. not by hate. I have seen read about many people who mock homosexuals and say things like their punishments are horrendous. The proper guidance is by love not by hatred. That is Islam for me. There are many people who are not engaging in sexual acts but are fighting their urges. everyone have a challenge in their lives and we don't understand that. the thing is that hurting others i would say that is the boundary and making one's challenges waste his life. I love this Shiekh's answer and I love Islam. Thank you God.
Faith restored! :)
you really dont understand what youre talking about do you? why should gay people be celibate? because you think so? who the fuck are you to say that?
hello dayweed85 although ur reply wasn't very respectful, but I would like from you to read what I wrote again and tell me plz where I might've triggered your angry reaction, because of what I said, I wasn't taking any side in the debate you hinted I was arousing. in fact, all I was saying is how ppl should socially treat them. I didn't say much about the personal level just as I feel the speaker did, which is one of the reasons I respected his answer :) however, im sorry for any misunderstanding and thank you for ur concern in this issue :) and if I did say something wrong which didn't intend to do, please tell me :)
Rayan UP "There are many people who are not engaging in sexual acts but are fighting their urges. everyone have a challenge in their lives and we don't understand that."
.. homosexuality is no different from heterosexuality. you making it seem like we should fight against our urges is beyond insulting.
I totally agree with you
Islam has been there since the beginning of time. All messengers preached the same message
Super clever, wise, and wonderful man...!!!!!
Society maybe a huge influence on how we behave but on the other hand , Quran clearly affirms that Islam is the final way of life to be followed until the day of judgment and it shouldn’t be changed or modified according to the time & place.
Saying that, he is true that if there is no fixed mentioned punishment on homosexuality then the best answer should be “ it’s prohibited in Islam and our only job is to offer da’wah and rest we should leave to day of judgment “.
Thanks dr shabir ally for giving me hope.👍
This is beautiful explaination! Subhanallah! Thank you!
Guys this is not the forum or way of having any constructive discussion on this topic. You are all just contributing to the division and hate.
Show us that you mean well and do the topic. Have done respect for yourselves and then others will follow
+Ayoub Niyaz Lol! and why would I agree with you when you yourselves are killing each other over differences that you have created yourselves? In English we say, are you teaching grandma to suck eggs? Way to go!
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As a gay Muslim, I appreciate much of this. This is far more compassionate and kind than what most Muslims say about people like me. I have actually received death threats from other Muslims. Where I have to part ways with Dr Ally, though, is first, the people of Lut (peace be upon him) were out to gang rape strangers. There is a difference between rape and consensual acts of intimacy. Also, consensual intimacy is not the same as child abuse or an inclination to harm another. A desire for love and intimacy is not the same as a craving for pork. These are very flawed analogies. But Dr Ally is correct that we must not claim for the Quran what it does not say, and so the Quran's silence is as much a challenge to me as my cis-straight siblings in the ummah.
Sexual orientation is not a choice . Being gay is not a choice but we can choose to respect ourself and others.
Accepting ourself and living a faithful and honest relationship with our partner is the best way to give hapiness around us.
good lecture, still more to study though. sharing
My friend is Muslim and tried so hard to convert me so now we don’t talk about reload all, we still good friends.
Sooooo well put, honestly!
>5 4- homosexuality is not a gentic condition. The frequency of a genetic condition, such as hemophilia, is determined by the survivebility of the individual. If homosexuality would have been a genetic conditions it would have been either diminished or a very rare case. Yet, what we see is that homosexuaity increase in time and it is not related to genetics but rather living standards. When societies get rich homosexuality increases. This aspect of homosexuality tells a whole different story.>6
There seem to be more homosexuals because it is now safer for them to come out of the closet. But there have always been a bunch of homosexuals.
But even today, homosexuals are a minority.
Love this guy. I like the way he isn't biased.
So is he supposed to be a scholar? I hope you Muslims and people that watch this that are learning about islam don't take this guys lecture. We don't just take from the Qur'an. Allah says in the Qur'an to obey Allah and obey the Messenger (sallaahu'alayhi wa Salaam). How do you obey the Messenger? From the authentic ahadith. He said it doesn't say what punishment they should get in the Qur'an he sounds like the lady who came to rasullah concerning not getting tattoos in the Qur'an and rasullah told her it says obey Allah and obey the Messenger(sallaahu "alayhi wa Salaam). There is ahadith that says to stay away from men who act like women and women who act like men. Homosexuality has no place in Islam and muslims need not to be around homosexuals.
The hadith is made up shit. Either the Quran was complete and perfect or it is not. Shame on you.
What he's saying is completely true! EXCEPT that the Quran is only a fraction of Islam. Islam, like all religions, is also defined by its leaders and preachers. The problem is that many of these preachers are teaching hate against homosexuality. Hate against liberal ideas such as the right to challenge ANYTHING, women can be treated at the same level as men, atheism, freedom of religion, etc...
Islam has now split into a peaceful religion and a hate-harboring religion. Where 90% of Muslims agree with hostile solutions for their responsibility of spreading Allah's glory
Individuals define individuals, societies define societies, ideologies define ideologies. The term Muslim defines an individual or society that attempts as best as (humanly) possible in this case to adhere to Islam. The 2 are actually distinct. The Muslim does not define Islam as Islam is a pure universal submission of all things to the Creator. Much in the way matter submits to the law of gravity. However a (human) Muslim is a mind that has chosen to align its actions in such an active concious submission yet also dealing with inherent human short comings and flaws in that application. So Islam stands stands alone, definition uneffected by Muslim observers or adherents. However a Muslim community or individual can and do define themselves. Long after Man has corrupted the religion and faith of God, Islam will not have changed, only the manner in which man expresses his degree of understanding and willful submission will have changed. At some point a community of self determined Muslims may actually have deviated far from its true meaning. So we must be careful of how we act and define ourselves and our community. But do not be concerned for Islam...it shall always remain untainted. Only the human soul is what shall be tainted if Islam has become abandoned. By that I mean, if we as humans grow apart from and or push others away from Islam, it is ultimately ourselves who we damage. We will be responsible for not only leading ourselves astray but also others. So as much as we do not define Islam, we do define ourselves, our society, and we are responsible for providing a clear path for others to see Islam that they may make their own clear decisions on the faith. Understanding human nature is to understand a human will likely discriminate based on flimsy superficial face-value information, and knowing that entrusts a Muslim with the responsibility to enable another human soul to approach Islam in the best possible manner. So though we don't directly define Islam we are entrusted with the responsibility of Dawa and helping humanity as well as stewardship. Our responsibility is greater than simply an individual defining one's self alone.
You clearly don't know what you are speaking about. Because you are mixing non Islamic persons ("Muslims") with Islam. Islam is a Arabic word, the root word comes from three letter: S L M.
Witch means I think five things, among them: peace! And the word Muslim is a verb, it means someone in action/ someone practicing something, in this case: spärren praktiskt Islam/peace. So a what a Muslim (that is IF he is a Muslim) is to practice Islam/ peace.
So if a person doesn't practice Islam/ peace, is he a Muslim/ peace practicing person?
So do not associate not peaceful persons as peaceful. Do not call people Muslims (peaceful/ peace practicing people) if they aren't practicing Islam (peace).
And if you would as many other people try to put forward a vers witch seams non peaceful or aggressive, try first to read the context, and then read all the verses about the subject to get a complete understanding of the subject related to the vers. As we should do, we should not conclude an opinion ..
....an opinion without ALL the knowledge available to the subject.
I only listen to dr shabir alli he makes so sense hes so nice so understanding.....
I am sure that without all the gays we see in movies, the number of gays would've decreased so much.
How do you explain homosexuality being so prevalent during the Greek era?
a wrong practice done by some people can easily spread within them ...like u said "era" it's not something natural ..or else people wouldn't make a big deal about it if it was there since the beginning....it's just not natural and got no role in the continuation of life...men and women are created to be with each other it doesn't need too much thinking ..
lovatic 4 eva How can you say it's not natural when you aren't homosexual yourself.
lovatic 4 eva So just because you were curious about other people, means everyone else was curious? That doesn't make sense. There are many gay people, especially in the past who wish they weren't gay. Who wish they were born straight. But the fact is that their hormones and biology are not attracted to the opposite gender. And so they have to accept and be happy with who they are. And us as humanity must help them and let them live the way they want in society, rather than outcast them. People being gay doesn't have any real effect on society.
oh please brother give some biological evidence that ppl are born gay..different people have different levels of hormones that doesn't make them gay..eg. Some men have really high levels their sexual desire is more than average men does this mean he can marry as much women as he wants to satisfy himself
This was very well explained. I do believe that it is possible for a homosexual to be cured based on his relationship with God. This relationship goes beyond attending a mosque or church. This calls for having a genuine relationship that is based on living a sanctified lifestyle. A relationship with God is the most unique lifestyle that one can receive.
If you believe that you're either a fucking idiot or will be the recipient of a Nobel prize for proving that. My bet is that you're a fucking idiot..
SubhanAllah, i learnt alot through Shabir alhamdulillah, but i hope he isnt getting influenced through his sorrounding, and long history of discussions with non Muslims, i believe he is wrong in this issue, may Allah keep us steadfast on faith(correct belief) and righteous deeds.
Some muslims always love rigidity about everything. I think this scholar is good one. He did not say homosexuality is not condemned.
isn't it better to follow what god says then following your own desire, cos at the end of the day pleasing your body will end the day you die and your sole will only remain to be punished for all the sin that the body have done. we all knw truth hurts, that is why most of the people who commented seem so angry. it is the true and just because you don't like to hear the truth doesn't mean we have to change our point of view. there are people who are already punished for having sex with the same gender. are these not enough to repent and think twice. coz GOD is capable of anything. may GOD guide us to the right path and help us with our desires. Amen
I think we shouldn't listen him
Safwan Maniyar is he very intellectual for you
Is he an imam? Is he a Muslim ? I doubt that ! He is misleading people ! In Islam & all the major religions condemns homosexuality!
@Angus Lee Firstly, homosexuals only recently were allowed to marry. And only in certain states. Secondly, no one who lives in the west has to follow, respect, or agree with, any of your values. Isn't that the beauty of where we come from? You can have and express whatever values you want. Freedom of speech etc,?
Dear brother Shabir please stop misleading our Ummah, we have no objection with non Muslims they can do whatever they please but please don't mix it with Islamic believes
Western society may see it differently than Eastern society. Watch videos from the Eastern Muslims and you will hear a more concrete view.
"refrain" is not a calming answer. How long can a gay guy refrain from liking other guy??
The statement "we dont hate the person, we the act" is ridicilous. That doesnt help at all
Sure, he is a great thinker but still delusioned by a false belief that there is ANY thing wrong with homosexual love & it's express from the Heart. Gay love is not a crime, a sin, or fitnah. You have NOTHING to prove this, as it cannot actually be true.
The Truth of God-Allah is Love. God-Allah loves gays. Islam must transform in alignment to God-Allah's revelation of higher Truth or it will FAIL humanity altogether.
Thank you :)
I was quite disappointed to hear you relate weak-mindedness with motherly instinct. Classic misogyny.
When we talk about Islam, we talk about every authentic monotheistical religion, not only the latest one. Islam says that God always sent prophets to guide humans, God always existed. God's message therefore has always been the same through Prophets (small differences has occured in religions). So as Muslims, we are believing in every Prophet as guided people from God, and not only Muhammad (pbuh).
Islam is there since the start of time. Since the 1st person on Earth, prophet Adam
you cannot be Muslim and gay at the same time. you have to choose!
Says who?
says allah :)
lovatic 4 eva You talk for Allah now? Any sin or deed done by person is between Allah and that person. You cannot say what is truly sin or not. The Qu'ran doesn't tell you what the punishment for homosexuality is.
Muslims who are against homosexuality are just insecure Arabs.
Also, would you ever stand up for gay rights? I.E. to get married or have children? Because if not, then people shouldn't stand up for Muslim rights i.e. build mosques, get good jobs etc.
Because you can't have one and not the other. Both are humans.
please don't be rude specially if u're muslim this is n't what islam taught us
this is what i believe and homosexuality is stated clearly as one of the signs of the day of judgment ..and the prophet lot ppl's story?
beginning of time -- 100 000 years ago (for people ) - how old is the planet ?? what you mean the beginning - islam is not the oldest religion - is it ?
But it claims that it is the last religeon.
+jay jay
He didn't dance around anything, he is painting the picture, then breaking it down for everyone to understand, not 1 person.
Quran and Hadeeth also. ...Sunnah is also a source of Shariah
At the end of the day,, its just a simple question yes or no, as a Christian I love you and jews do you ?? are women the same as men ,, treated the same, I eat pork, I don't matter, ,, now that's just a law, I believe in JESUS Gods grace
So instead of being reasonable, you chose to insult people for having opinions and yet forcing your own opinion. It's not always black or white, there are things in between. Some choose to be homosexual, some don't. Whether it is directly or indirectly.
But, really... you came to this vid, watched it, and only had to say that? I don't even see how it can be of any use to anyone...
Then be a serial killer and validate that.
Islamic law is not derived from quran only. Islam law is derived from quran hadith ijma and qiyas e shari
15 minutes to justify homophobia basically
Angus Lee Salamun Alaikum. I am a Muslim. Just so you know, homophobia and not agreeing with homosexuality is two different things. You call us homophobes just because we follow what Allah tells us? We are not sorry that we love Allah more then His creation. We care about our souls way more in the head after then we do in this life. Allah has a reason for everything. Let me give you the science as to why homosexuality is not the way of God. God created man and women to be together, Hence “Adam and Eve” God creates the us for one reason and one reason only. And that is to worship Him. And He created male and female so that we can continue to reproduce and keep the world going. Now think about what I’m about to tell you. A women and an women can not reproduce, neither can a man and man. Why is that? Why cant two people of the same sex reproduce? If it was ok with God for the same sex to be together, He would have made it so that all relationships can reproduce because that is the reason we are here. To keep the world going so that we can continue to worship God. Now think about this. What if the whole world was gay? 🤔 what would happen to the world? Our species would die out and there would be nothing left. Why? Because no one would be reproducing to keep it alive. Now this is not an opinion, this is scientific facts. We all know this to be true. This is not to be mean, I am just being honest. God made it only so that man and women can reproduce for a reason. And even now you have science trying to make a way for same sex couples to have children when that is not possible because even now , to have children, you still NEED the opposite sex. Science is not smarter then God and they need to understand that. May God guide you all. 🤲🏾
So you guys can have your opinions, but we can’t have ours? No, that is not how it works. If you guys agree with it and are no afraid to say it, then no one should be afraid to say that they don’t. Period. If this is a free country and everyone has a freedom of speech. Then everyone can say what ever they want. EVERYONE, even if other don’t like it. Don’t be a hypocrite.
"And if anyone contends with the Messenger even after guidance has been plainly conveyed to him, and follows a path other than that becoming to men of Faith, We shall leave him in the path he has chosen, and land him in Hell - what an evil destination!" Qur'an, 4:115
love this guy!!!
This reminds me of that old Arabic proverb: "Our women for work and our boys for pleasure."
Assalamualaikum sir.... Excellent explanations with Quran verses...I have a question for you people who are born with homosexual desire....how they should deal with the society....becoz as a male they are intrested in other male....
Good explanation on this issue.
I could be wrong but I’m sure he said it’s wrong but we as a people are not allowed to pass judgement on them because that is between them and Allah.
No, he is saying that because the Quran doesn't give a specific punishment for the crime then each society or group that comes along will analyse the situation and come to a ruling. But this is wrong, here is Hadith that lets us know how to punish this crime, and that is death. It is very clear actually. It seems like this brother is trying to appease the modernists.
@@sscr1p7 The hadith is full of shit and written by people hijacking Islam for their own political gain. Either the Quran is less than perfect of the hadith is shit, you can't have it both ways. Aisha was probably the first politician to elevate her status through lies.
You could say practicing homosexuality is a choice, but to have those tendencies isn't just something that people just wake up a decide to have one day.
There are so many people with hormone imbalances, mental issues or other disabilities that make them different. It's not just a choice.
Not choice, but he urged control over these tendecies which go against Morality and God's order.
>8 If a homosexual is born that way, there is not point for that individual to insist on living how he feels since the physical aspect will dominate over his desires and feelings. If he has a fully functional male organ, he will never have a fully functional female organ and will never experience motherhood. or vice versa. So Instead of trying to persuade the whole world that he/she is not what he/she is, he/she should try to persuade himself/herself what he/she is. >9
Live and let live. This is the space age. Not the dark ages!
Till your young one day turns into a Unicorn. Let live!
Angus Lee we ain’t hateful y’all are
>4 2- Either sex or gender, can't be defined without the other. A homosexual, therefore, rejects to be defined in means of gender or sex and doing that so fall in the self denial.
3- A homosexual can not define himself in a relationship as well. As we stated sexes or genders can't be defined w/o the other. A homosexual, therefore, can define "itself" in relationship if it is a she then she should have beend with a male, or vice versa. This only means that the gay is synomimous with confused >5
TO MR WHOME123. IM NOT SURE WHAT YOUR POINT IS BUT IN THE BIBLE JEHOVA,JESUS SAID HOMOSEXUALS,ADULTERS THIEVES WILL NEVER ENTER KINGDOM OF HEAVEN! . I DONT KNOW OF ANYONE THAT CAN ENTER HEAVEN WITHOUT GODS PERMISSION.
well - i have to say - I WILL NEVER TREAT OTHERS WORSE BECAUSE THEY ARE DIFFERENT ... but you can not understand it.
have you heard about evolution of man -- when would you call someone person ?? it is hard ..am i right ..?
to AEuropeanAtheist;
Since you deleted your comments, I respond to your brilliant comment w/o in reply to you directly.
"I am proud of you man"
You can't "be of me" anything double standarded European Atheist.
"You managed to write 2 whole sentences, one after the other, without resorting to any foul language (like you did before)"
I never use foul language, I merely states facts about those who are foul themselves. And, if you noticed I can explain what I say and why I say it. BIGOT :)
>2
Br. Ally stated that there is no prescribed punishment for those who 'act upon homosexuality', but it seems he did not bring up the ahadith (particularly the one hadith where the Prophet - s.w.s. - commanded to kill the doer and receiver) that go over that issue.
That refers to sodomy
Acting upon it is sodomy, in the practical sense.
ISMASHYOUBRO what u mean?
LastRambo341 Acting upon Homosexual tendencies is Sodomy.
ISMASHYOUBRO
Homosexuality: feelings to the same gender
Sodomy: Anal sex (penis going to the anus)
There is a difference. A straight guy can sodomize
what is religion ? and why islam did not existed in the beginning of people - why islam is not the oldest religion , why islam started in middle east where education level is lower then other countries ?? thank you for information
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It’s surprising for me that sheikh taking homosexuality as not a big sin, while in the story of Lot the punishment for his people was so horrible and severe enough, to put this act into a very serious and one of the big sin.
@@maths8458 I'm sure they were lying and stealing too. The crime that is spoken of when talking about the people of lut is sodomy.
Even the Hadith that lets us know the punishment for homosexuality is death describes the act as "the act of the people of lut"
@@sscr1p7 When Muhammad wrote the Quran he just edited the same Christian and Jewish texts. They're all a load of BS but god destroyed Sodom and Gomorrah for numerous reasons and Muslims trying to link this to homosexuality are just ignorant bigots who try and distort the Quran to match their homophobia just like the hadith does.
First of all, if you are a christian you need to know christianity just like islam forbid gays as well, not the people but the action.
The word gay is an abstract, there are beautiful gay people, but the verb is wrong meaning the action of men sleeping with men sexually. Think about it...
Shabir is a nice Muslim.. God Almighty Jesus Christ himself bless you ..and draw you to himself..
listen "smart boy" - EUROPE WANTS TO BE FREE FROM ALL NON SENS please do not promote your religion WE ARE INTELLIGENT ENOUGH TO CHOOSE WHAT WE WANT ..
ISLAM IS NOT FOR ME !!
Then don't join lol
>9 So if an individual was born with male genitalia, yet is he doesn't feel as a male and has emotions and desires of a woman, he should better learn to deal with those emotions or desires because it is way easier to replace that male genitalia with a female genitalia. and without such replacement he will always be a he. even after surgery since he will have that Y chromosome. I hope these helped you a little to make things clearer for you. -end.
What were those other crimes that people of Lute were committed beside homosexuality that were so serious that they deserve so serious wrath and punishment that they were destroyed I disagree with Dr. Shabbir Ally on this point.
Western world has find a way to surgically change the sex but they are not been able to address this issue medically I believe this is a physiological disorder which can be treated
Then you're either a fucking idiot or the next Nobel prize winner. As Muslims don't do science I'm going with fucking idiot. Good luck with your PhD.
They also engaged in xenophobia, rape and I think also robbery and adultery.
THERE IS NO PERFECT RELIGION - WHY NOT EVERYONE IN THE WORLD BELIEVES WHAT YOU BELIEVE ?? because some people thing ISLAM IS NOT FOR THEM so please do not promote how great - the best from others you are . I think you religion is creating more death right now then other believes ..
you should !! good point..
God is always the cure
Some thieves are good people but thier actions are wrong, some drugs dealers are nice people as well, but the action of selling & consuming drugs is wrong. In every group of people you will find good and bad people, it depends on the action. You can never justify good actions to be bad or bad actions to be good, good actions are always good and bad actions are always bad. We are not talking about the people but thier actions. The action of wrong doing is always wrong, no matter who did them.
HOW OLD IS ISLAM ??
1400 yrs old
who say that their are not to be household pets -- you said that or GOD ?? man if i want my dog live with me it will - this is normal life - you are free to do what you want to do .. THAT IS A PROBLEM YOU HAVE GOT TO MANY RULES WHICH ARE far from modern life ..
Homosexuality is haram
fine but there is a difference betwen killing and not accepting ..- I JUST DO NOT UNDESTANd HOW GOD COULD SAY - TO TREAT SOMEONE ELSE WORSE or others BETTER ... can you ?
don't you think there is a reason why we on this planet so different and in the same time - WE THE SAME . MAYBE WE NEED GAY PEOPLE ON THIS PLANET - GOD WOULD NEVER CREATE SOMEONE FOR NOTHING !!! !!! from small ant to human everyone have got some MISSION HERE. SO WHY you not to correct GOD .. MORE AND MORE IT CONVINCE ME THAT MUSLIMS THINK THEIR A BEST BEST MODEL OF HUMAN WITH THE BEST RELIGION AND GOD CHOOSE THEM (ONLY THEM ) WHY would you think this way ?? if you do not understand DON'T HATE.
You love selrial killers? No. These are all wrong tendencies.
hi brother I see lots of ccc s in western world
pastor /priest /reveran
akibishop most of them are sweet very sad cases brother
HOW GAVE PEOPLE RIGHTS TO JUDGE OTHERS PEOPLE ? ... no one because - no one knows what is good or bad !! you can believe it this or that but no one on this planet is 100% SURE ... (not expecting answers) - THIS IS ONLY TRUE..( yeh you will find people who believe in this than others believe is something else but know one is sure - and can not be.. BELIEVES ARE NOT FACTS..
>2 A minority group called homosexuals determine the traits of the majority called heterosexuals. Do you see something wrong here? Beyond that who is to tell me what should I think about homosexuals? I don't want to share anything with them including the social activities all together. If I am not supposed to judge them, which I don't anyway, who has the right to force me to accept them as normal? This is just the personal aspect of this issue >3
too many sweet in United States of America two sweet can marry is legal in western world. ...God bless ccc s
I'm Muslim and gay my husband is a imam. We are very happy to be blessed by Allah. 😍
It is like i am thief and i enjoy robbery.
really.. what about dinosaurs ? i am sure you do not know when was it exactly ? place give me a date - 1 st person - hmmm what about evolution ?
Will this guy love kids I guess he can't help him self yes he can and gay people can help them self or get help don't be so weak to your sexual desire.
Abuse of children is not consensual you fucking moron.
Very good speaker! He should be the Muslim pope
Paul Rond Islam doesn't have a pope. We have imams