It, old bootleg, was a bonus disc in UP-2007. Who did it wasn't happy and did it AGAIN. And that's great. Now I'm not sure is this it. But I can search my bootleg and that comptessed bonus and remaster that if I cannot open my old external mrmory where's that second work of that same man. He put it to noonline free to load. Great way to say that føcƙ the řecord ļabels. Actual as this is from the board, I's use echo and rise a guitar a bit that Stephen isn't at a main role anymore. Channeling is very wide and good to all of us who play. I usually monoed "not so wide" stereos and rise a bass both side. If doing that to drums, intrumental harmonies can do miracles ...accidentally.
I wish both Decades an The Eternal were on this. Sadly both songs were underplayed in live concerts, probably because they are quite long and also because they both rely heavily on sound effect that give them their distictive atmosphere.
@@bottomendbliss I think they started to play Isolation and Decades only after this European tour, so I guess they weren't quite ready yet, they were still writing them
@@karlydocwell to think of it i think Ian's vocal range may be lacking but what he makes up for is singing with FEELING. I don't care how good of a singer you are. If you sing with feeling and passion, its more believable and poignant. I'll take his style over anyone else's as it complements the music.
I'm only 54 and as long as i've been breathing as a former NW England inhabitant, this has been acknowledged as the best JD boot/live recording. Slainte to Skooper1985 and the Dutch peeps in general for being more easy going, leading to this recording. No digs just hugs. Hartstikkende bedankt.
Helsinki, 14.8.2016 with my biggest love. I was waited 20 years. They played 'Decades' Very rare song on their list. And I rec whole gig secretly. R... I Fñg ❤ Y Still.
I just discovered Joy Division don't know how I miss this great band/music over the years. Then the other day Adam Jones from TOOL played a short clip of JD playing Shadowplay. I had to investigate and gosh how incredibly talented they are. Now I'm on a quest to learn more about them...so good!
Sorry but your age? JD changed my life and way to hear and play music after 1995 Permament-collection. I got LWTUA-single too and have facelifted the live Transmission (no details, but autumn 1979, Manchester). As I heard 1st collection track, I was like ok, I exept this. I assumed it was real single track. Then second: Transmission. Under 7mins and my life changed compeletly 1995. Then I listened that single and was like: WTF? Cowboys riding... punk is dead etc. And then mono-live at the pre-Hacienda. Next time I was dropped off on my floor as I saw year 2001 as They were on BBC. I gad a joint in my hand but I still was clear. But that was last mindblow. I was like full of adrenaline, almost cried, dizzy, silent (five ppl, I owned the flat) eyes wide and just ...Damn... Ian was a real deal. --- 7.8.98. I found Still and it's recipe is Still inside my Still-covers. New Dawn Fades is so raw that it is Still hard to bear. I get shivers/goosebumps every time. I remix it at next week. Echoed it because it's straight-SB-rec. - And look 24h party people too. One of my favos.
@@katievee222I'd say that Anton was always a fan. Deborah's book (1992)may be bitter but there's like reggae-point and "we shared a drink-thing... The book is 5/5. It was available only for English year 2000 and I studied only lyrics... but I read that whole book, loaned from my friend, at one night. I just read and read. Wondered a bit. Read. Gigs. Discography. Morning, honey. (*kiss*) (I had bit same kind of situation going on then. Triangle and serious medical operation coming) I have translation, but that my second book writed on English ever... and 8h and I was read it without any breaks but cicarettes. Movie 4,3/5. Bit like all clichés but a few very powerful scenes. The band learned play irl. That's great thing. I saw Control at premiere and took my ex with me. We were on 1st row and as movie end I shed a tear. So not bad. At the first 20min some average-brain young men laughted to the movie. In the end while 500 ppl theatre was silent like... a tombstone.
00:00 Passover (partial) 02:51 Wilderness 05:48 Digital 09:12 Day of the Lords 13:55 Insight 17:42 New Dawn Fades 22:24 Disorder 25:36 Transmission 30:14 Love Will Tear Us Apart 33:35 These Days 37:40 A Means to an Ends 41:51 Twenty Four Hours 46:14 Shadow Play 50:00 She's Lost Control 53:57 Atrocity Exhibition 01:03:11 Atmosphere 01:08:00 Interzone
Great. I bought closer when the ne flight attendants were on strike and uncle dropped me off in Minneapolis. Ignatius who had about 10000 classic al records said it sounded like the same thing over and over. O well
Whenever I listen to Ian talk song he always sounds analogous to Jim Morrison as if he's reading poetry with that meandering sea deep baritone impaling our hearts with his suicide, imagine the genius of Joy Division in the 21st century, the band title is embellished with such fiber and adieu to Joy Divided. Rest easy Ian. Liccle more brejin.
@@Andermander429 I have, I thought Ian was very sexy and I wish he decided to live and deal with life's punches; I understand why he chose suicide, sometimes the clouds get too thick, but his talent amalgamated with the rest of the astounding Joy Division was Legend while he was alive...my eyes are full of tears now. I 💛 Ian, rest in God's bosom baby, we'll all get there eventually.
Ian Curtis tinha alma, e podemos ter o prazer de perceber isso conforme as letras vão surgindo em sintonia com a bateria monótona e a guitarra violenta. Acredito que toda a História musical de Ian Curtis tenha sido um grande Adeus, desde o primeiro album ao segundo, desde as letras das músicas até a capa dos discos, tudo está relacionado com Ian de maneira a fazer sentido seu suicídio logo após o lançamento do segundo album. É como se ele simplesmente soubesse que iria partir, e todo seu trabalho segue uma certa calma. É um puta de um trabalho bom.
Not recorded by me. I'm afraid Johnnie at times. Encoding it to .avi for TH-cam. Makes it sound better. Thank you for a response. It is all I ever want. But rarely get
Gratitude to whoever recorded this! I just remembered how this is the recording that was my first encounter with Joy Division. I was 17 and a classmate had copied over this cassette tape of the bootleg, after Ian already passed. I had this cassette for a long time, and never forgot Ian saying, "Welcome to the Atrocity Exhibition" in that deep tone. I've been missing this bootleg (never threw my cassette tapes away, but I could not find it anymore). It is so awesome that you uploaded this. Great quality, too! One more thing: I feel like I have never understood the anguish that Ian was going through, until now.
"Directionless so plain to see. A loaded gun won't set you free... so _you_ say." Despite the poor soul hanging himself, that line from New Dawn Fades is perhaps a chilling bit of foreshadowing into his suicide. There seem to be many hints into Ian's hopelessness and despair...you could see it in his eyes. He was ethereal...
Jamie Dailey yeah he had a few bum notes there. Might’ve been that it was the first song on the second set and he wasn’t warmed up or something because he did a fine job on the rest of the songs.
'that bass player' - you must mean the one and only Peter Hook, whose bassline formed the song LWTUA (one of their weakest songs in my opinion) and whose musical contributions to the group's repertoire cannot be underestimated. A group who definitely ALL contributed to each track, but one has to say the bass was so significant that 'that bass player' certainly stamped his own personality all over their music. He is definitely sloppy in places but that was part of their charm too....they emerged in the punk era, when yawn inducing virtuosity and robot-like precision were not key. They were often pretty drunk too - just watch a lot of Bernard's early New Order performances - gripped with fear and almost unable to face the audience he would often mess up guitar parts, mess up his vocals and occasionally (Glastonbury 1981 being a 'great' example), fall flat on his back. Fantastic, shambolic punk- not - punk group. Peace and love xxxx
Sven Hassle man when Barney fell on his back while performing Procession I lost it. So funny. He was absolutely wasted lmao. And yeah I agree with what you’re saying. I do think lwtua is a good song though. Great lyrics and it’s good musically too. But repetitive but I like it the way it is. An emotional song that nearly anyone can relate to. It’s got nothing on songs like Decades though.
David Dockery - agreed - LWTUA is a great song, granted, I just think there are far better tunes in their canon - The Sound Of Music, 24 Hours, Day Of The Lords....oooh I could go on and on but won't....LWTUA IS a great pop song and such a shame that what happened happened as that was about to be a 'hit' and makes one wonder what the band would have done next.....but alternate histories are a bit futile so.........and yes, Decades is fantastic!. I actually saw a copy of and held in my own hands a copy of the Sordide Sentimentale record last year......felt pretty special, but ridiculously expensive.......
I can still remember the shiver that went through me the first time I heard them play Insight live. Can't quite recreate it with this because I can't turn it up loud enough for those sounds to pierce my skull the way it did back then, but this is how I remember them.
All I can say at this, my first listen is WOW...I am listening with my mouth hanging open and goosebumps all over...I will have more to say after I listen a few times...
Phil Strange no back then they kept being accused of being Nazis. Most people didn’t gaf but it’s not true that “nobody batted an eyelid” . Probably more people than now actually because when they first started people didn’t know much about them
Did this ever get pressed onto vinyl? It is astonishing in quality for a live gig at that time. You really sort to understand, how the band felt Martin Hannett 'betrayed' their live sound when producing Unknown Pleasures - but even as recently as a month or so ago, all three remaining JD members confessed of the genius of Hannett and appreciate the far sighted vision of the guy - making that record absolutely timeless, while moving far beyond their youthful punk oriented outlook. Even Hannett would not have ever imagined the 'long-gevity' (Peter Hook) - of this epic masterpiece.
Passover, New Dawn are from Amsterdam on one of the editions of Les Baines Douches (Paris). But ALL the French and Dutch soundboard-shows should released, Holy Dionysus. Will Factory do the right thing?
I had the pleasure of having the bootleg version of this & the full Eindhoven concerts I purchased on cassette 1984 in Dublin, what a treat to hear it in this format, A treasure.
Disorder...damn, just amazing... in the end with all the history of Ian as such, listen to these young men , this energy giving and sending thru Ian...this yank Misses you my brother... enjoy
yeah joy division , what can you say ! I find myself driving extremely fast to work on the freeway to tracks like shadow play and digital and dead souls , surely in for some speeding tickets soon , anyways this here is the nectar , the audio I love. instead of us feeling robbed of the lack of albums were all very lucky we got all these great tracks to feel and enjoy in or lives ... a legend ian was ...
JUST ONE QUICK POST BEFORE I BOOK AND THIS IS REALLY SPECIAL---LIVE JOY DIVISION WITH PEERLESS SOUND QUALITY. I'm sure some of you out there are already acquainted with this gig at Paradiso in Amsterdam in 1980. Here's some info from a blog. "The local support didn't want to play so Joy Division stood in for them. They played two completely different sets for the price of one." And how it was described in a fanzine at the time: 'When I arrived at the Paradiso, it appeared that most of the regular visitors had decided to stay at home. So the JOY DIVISION played for a handful of people only, two long sets, together around 70 minutes of excellent music. At that time only 1 album and 2 singles had been released, so they played a lot of new songs that went down well with the small audience. The gig was (along with the PIL-gig in Bruxelles) the best I have ever seen. Fantastic bass playing by PETER HOOK and a spastic, strained IAN CURTIS. For the occasion the Paradiso management had lowered the ceiling to make things more intimate. It was a good idea. Shame to all the people who stayed at home' SJC This is the most bootlegged live Joy Division show, but I'm not sure any of the bootlegs have sound this good. If they do, I certainly want to snag a copy. Set 1 Passover 0:00 Wilderness 2:52 Digital 5:49 Day of the Lords 9:10 Insight 13:55 New Dawn Fades 17:42 Disorder 22:25 Transmission 25:41 Set 2 Love Will Tear Us Apart 29:23 These Days 33:36 A Means To An End 37:40 Twenty Four Hours 41:51 Shadowplay 46:15 She's Lost Control 50:02 Atrocity Exhibition 53:58 Encore Atmosphere 1:02:42 Interzone 1:08:02
Thanks so much for this comment. I've just gotten to know about Joy Division in recent weeks. These are such interesting details, I love it when people share stuff like that.
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Somebody commented on this show saying during Digital at one point, Ian Curtis appeared to vanish in front of his eyes, and that multiple people witnessed this, I'm kind of curious about if anyone has anymore info on what actually happened. I couldn't believe the quality of the show when I first found it but that detail tripped me out a bit.
A bally awesome album. Yep, totally agree GWK(Sam), would've been absolutely massive to have been there. If time travel becomes a normal thing before I die, this is one concert I'm gonna go to.
Great quality.I remember the paradiso poster i saw with the concert announcement...It was a day after the show so i missed it.Did not know the band and listened to it in the record store.I bought them all that day...Best band ever
Many people say Martin Hannett was the master behind Joy Division and he was but this is the living prove Joy Division sounded like a record and of course ahead for its time even live. Just listen Insight 13:55, These Days 33:36 and A Means To An End 37:40. This band is untouchable.
had tickets to see Joy Division at the Starwood in early June 1980 in LA on their first US tour a few months after this show, if this was the set I would have left mesmerized,
Nah, it would've been more like Birmingham May 2nd, a tired Ian and a listless band. They should've come to the States in January instead of doing this tour, playing to small crowds of indifferent Euros. Imagine if they'd been at the Starwood in mid January, relaxing by the pool at the Tropicana Hotel, soaking up a few days of L.A. sunshine with a few gigs in town and one down in San Diego, it might've totally revitalized Ian. It hurts my brain to know what could have been, instead of them freezing their asses off in Europe. The REAL question however, is, DID YOU KEEP THE STARWOOD TICKET??
@@RiotNrrrdUTube May have made a difference perhaps, but I am afraid Ian had other plans or the plans chose him. To answer your real question, NO ... ahh .... we had to return the tickets back to the Starwood in order to get our money back, had I known better ( what 15 year old kid does ) I should have kept the ticket and ate the $6.00. I did however see B People who were the band that was to open for JD open for New Order on their first LA performance at Perkins Palace in late 1981. Great show, but kind of sad and depressing at the same time. I never knew JD had plans to play in San Diego, that's a new one to me but according to this site, looks like they were. This website had some critical dates of the tour and notes ... enjoy !! www.joydiv.org/cancel.htm
@@Mr.Steve-O Same here, had to return my ticket, if I'd known what we know now, etc.! I was also at that New Order Perkins show as well, do you remember it being that full? My memory's not what it was ("Dave ... can feel it going, Dave ... I can feel it ... "). Been on the JD Central site for years, great forums to commiserate in over what might have been ...
79' 81' Paradiso Amsterdam home to Blighty frm 3yr in S.A., had to get OUT/oFF to live & Work, Nederlands in my blood IT IS Breda X ,Stiff little Fingers I remember too FANTASTIC place ...Acoustics best EVER... get this recording for your children ....Topshelf back then ...:)))) luv you Ian Curtis .
I love their live records, it seems almost like a religious ritual, while studio versions present something different, more urban and contemporary... I love both
To me it seems like they live stuff is how they're truly meant to be experienced. Messy and chaotic with an undercurrent of sublime beauty and gravitas. Something the studio stuff doesn't exactly hit.
I read somewhere on the WWW that this was not the radio broadcast but a reel to reel recording made by someone who kept the tapes for years not intending to make them public. A few years ago he decided it was time to do so. I downloade this a few years ago from a blog that clamed it was the reel to reel tape. The artwork was also on that blog. A shame that this was never released officially.
I have a far inferior copy of this, I wasn't sure it was the same until Ian's comment at the end of Digital. I've always been amazed by Bernards guitar playing, he doesn't look like he has it in him. Outstanding.
@@s1050 Man, I wish Bernard had taken guitar much more seriously. He could’ve been considered one of those guitar heroes. But he’s still a guitar hero in my heart :)
Shoutout to all my JD listeners whether you are old, young, extremely nostalgic of this time or just surpised by how modern it stills sound. If you listen to a lot of Joy Division (like too much) I hope you are doing well on your life and not struggling with existential problems. But if you are suffuring from all those issues, have a good therapy with this retranscriprion. My favourite one is Atrocity Exhibition personnally.
So glad I was there to witness such a genius and great band and the ones that followed ,very special days ,what have kids got today social media and bloody lockdowns...RIP Ian Curtis ...
@@danielgreen8483 After the birth of punk via the Sex Pistols, yes there were other bands about doing similar, but none grabbed the attention of them. Other bands of significance that came out are The Fall, A Certain Ratio, Stranglers, Devo, Siouxsie, Buzzcocks, Joy Div, The Cure...in fact the list can go on for the 70's and I mean on and on , it was honestly a huge, and I mean a huge diversity of music genres, from Rock to progressive rock to heavy rock, you then had R&B, to Soul to Disco, You had Reggae to the first instances of Dub...in between all that there was also the mainstream stuff which to be honest, a lot of it was pretty pleasant, someone will correct me here for missing a genre and other stuff, but I'm typing off the cuff. Joy Division arrived...they appeared at Factory and to be honest it was nothing special, you could turn up there on a Monday night, be three people in...JD would be playing...turn up a couple of nights later, there would be 20 people in, 19 probably lost trying to find Wigan casino...but they would be playing yet again with a another band or two, I used to get in about 9 ish each night, I probably missed a band. JD were nothing big to be honest....then all of a sudden, there were a couple of tracks that they did became I don't know, perhaps 'polished' ...Atrocity E was one...I deffo noticed a shift in it's play...a couple of others such as Shadow Play, were far better, along with the rest of the circuit they were doing....they just...to be honest....got it....and, before you knew it, getting in the Factory at 9 pm was far gone....you needed to be there at 4pm...There are also shit loads of other groups who played at Factory...The Fall,James, Happy Mondays, Duritti Column...the horrible thing is though. Is being there and not really listening to those bands, and missing out on the realisation of who they were to become. They were taken for granted.
The crazy ferocity, intensity, and sinewy funkiness in the version of Atrocity Exhibition here is just unparalleled. The whole live show is absolutely amazing, but that song in particular sounds absolutely unique and amazing.
this recording is absolutely phenomenal whoever were the audio and acoustic engineers on this were genius my little cellphone speaker can't do this justice I would love to hear this in a large concert hall with a massive sound system or a lazer light show like the old Pink Floyd ones this deserves a proper vinyl release ⭐⭐⭐⭐⭐
Fair play to you for adding such an an absolute blinding recording...warts and all. Raw and brilliant. Few bands have ever touched my inner soul and probably never will.
Bought the bootleg tape of this in 1980 for £1.50p and then found a review that Curtis disappeared in front of the writer's eyes for 10 secs during Atrocity Exhibition. I still believe the writer.
If you look at accounts of this performance, at the ending of Atrocity Exhibition Ian went into sort of a trance due to hydration/ and or epilepsy, and had to be helped off stage by a roadie while the rest of the band played on. That's probably what the reviewer meant.
Have the bootleg cassette of this concert I bought at a used record "shop" in London in May 1980. Believe me when I say this searching for JD bootleg tapes back then was what crackheads would do for a hit. Anything and yes we paid crazy prices for tapes of other gigs that were utter shit sound quality. This was the best.
Hands down the best Joy Division bootleg I've ever listened to! Whoever saved this gem, thank you so much!
It, old bootleg, was a bonus disc in UP-2007.
Who did it wasn't happy and did it AGAIN. And that's great. Now I'm not sure is this it. But I can search my bootleg and that comptessed bonus and remaster that if I cannot open my old external mrmory where's that second work of that same man.
He put it to noonline free to load. Great way to say that føcƙ the řecord ļabels.
Actual as this is from the board, I's use echo and rise a guitar a bit that Stephen isn't at a main role anymore. Channeling is very wide and good to all of us who play. I usually monoed "not so wide" stereos and rise a bass both side. If doing that to drums, intrumental harmonies can do miracles ...accidentally.
You took the words out of my mouth. Brilliant isn't it.
I only wish Decades was on this. That would be perfection.
I wish both Decades an The Eternal were on this. Sadly both songs were underplayed in live concerts, probably because they are quite long and also because they both rely heavily on sound effect that give them their distictive atmosphere.
And Isolation.
I would love to hear in a lonely place
@@bottomendbliss I think they started to play Isolation and Decades only after this European tour, so I guess they weren't quite ready yet, they were still writing them
Got to remember they were still having issues with the keyboard sound and electronics on tours. You can hear it on Still!
To me, anyone who likes Joy Division appreciates good music. The layers of sound they weaved together is incredible almost 40 years later.
Damn Right
The weak link was there singers style of singing.........................one dimensional.
@@karlydocwell to think of it i think Ian's vocal range may be lacking but what he makes up for is singing with FEELING. I don't care how good of a singer you are. If you sing with feeling and passion, its more believable and poignant. I'll take his style over anyone else's as it complements the music.
@@Andermander429Well said 👏
@@karlydoc it does work really well with joy division sound
New dawn fades is brilliant ,JD forever
Também adoro
My favourite
This is the best live recording I've heard from them. It captures their raw power much better than their studio releases.
Robert Sheph Well said Mr Sheph
Full of mistakes and slowdowns
@@humorgenerico não concordo... eram geniais mesmo com pequenos detalhes insignificantes. A força da interpretação da banda é absurda.
Like the john peel recordings 👌
It'sGood
Insight was a great song when it came out in 1979.
It still is.
It probably always will be.
My favorite JD song, been listening since Unkown Pleasures was released... Its an understatement to say it was a spectacular 1st record release.
Simply, if this recording ever gets an official release, it would qualify as one of the greatest live albums ever. Someone, do it!
Pues ya es oficial el disco esta en iTunes a un año de tu comentario
Superior a still de largoooooo a sus piesssss
This should be an official live release, I have listened to so many from 1979 forward .. nothing compares to this quality. Press it.
I'm only 54 and as long as i've been breathing as a former NW England inhabitant, this has been acknowledged as the best JD boot/live recording. Slainte to Skooper1985 and the Dutch peeps in general for being more easy going, leading to this recording. No digs just hugs. Hartstikkende bedankt.
As a lover of j.d..I agree.not to be compared to black sabbath, as some one said...what??
You should check out les baines dou he..Paris.. awesome
I saw New Order in NYC in 1987 perform Atmosphere as an encore. It was glorious.
nothing compares JD with Ian Curtis
Helsinki, 14.8.2016 with my biggest love.
I was waited 20 years.
They played 'Decades'
Very rare song on their list. And I rec whole gig secretly.
R... I Fñg ❤ Y Still.
the best JD live set I've ever heard.
Christ I wish I could have been there.
Le "live bains douche Paris" est très beau aussi!!!
I just discovered Joy Division don't know how I miss this great band/music over the years. Then the other day Adam Jones from TOOL played a short clip of JD playing Shadowplay. I had to investigate and gosh how incredibly talented they are. Now I'm on a quest to learn more about them...so good!
You need to watch the movie “control.” It’s about Ian (front man’s) life and how the band came to be and end. Welcome to the underground ✌️
Tool sucks! also that film
Sorry but your age?
JD changed my life and way to hear and play music after 1995 Permament-collection.
I got LWTUA-single too and have facelifted the live Transmission (no details, but autumn 1979, Manchester). As I heard 1st collection track, I was like ok, I exept this. I assumed it was real single track. Then second: Transmission. Under 7mins and my life changed compeletly 1995. Then I listened that single and was like: WTF? Cowboys riding... punk is dead etc.
And then mono-live at the pre-Hacienda. Next time I was dropped off on my floor as I saw year 2001 as They were on BBC. I gad a joint in my hand but I still was clear. But that was last mindblow. I was like full of adrenaline, almost cried, dizzy, silent (five ppl, I owned the flat) eyes wide and just ...Damn... Ian was a real deal.
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7.8.98. I found Still and it's recipe is Still inside my Still-covers. New Dawn Fades is so raw that it is Still hard to bear. I get shivers/goosebumps every time.
I remix it at next week. Echoed it because it's straight-SB-rec.
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And look 24h party people too. One of my favos.
Tool since 1996...
@@katievee222I'd say that Anton was always a fan.
Deborah's book (1992)may be bitter but there's like reggae-point and "we shared a drink-thing...
The book is 5/5. It was available only for English year 2000 and I studied only lyrics... but I read that whole book, loaned from my friend, at one night. I just read and read. Wondered a bit. Read. Gigs. Discography. Morning, honey. (*kiss*)
(I had bit same kind of situation going on then. Triangle and serious medical operation coming)
I have translation, but that my second book writed on English ever... and 8h and I was read it without any breaks but cicarettes.
Movie 4,3/5. Bit like all clichés but a few very powerful scenes.
The band learned play irl. That's great thing.
I saw Control at premiere and took my ex with me. We were on 1st row and as movie end I shed a tear. So not bad. At the first 20min some average-brain young men laughted to the movie. In the end while 500 ppl theatre was silent like... a tombstone.
00:00 Passover (partial)
02:51 Wilderness
05:48 Digital
09:12 Day of the Lords
13:55 Insight
17:42 New Dawn Fades
22:24 Disorder
25:36 Transmission
30:14 Love Will Tear Us Apart
33:35 These Days
37:40 A Means to an Ends
41:51 Twenty Four Hours
46:14 Shadow Play
50:00 She's Lost Control
53:57 Atrocity Exhibition
01:03:11 Atmosphere
01:08:00 Interzone
"I remember........
Great. I bought closer when the ne flight attendants were on strike and uncle dropped me off in Minneapolis. Ignatius who had about 10000 classic al records said it sounded like the same thing over and over. O well
Thank you, R.S.D.
It’s recorded really well. By Digital everything is mixed well with just the right amount of space.
Damn I wish passover was complete it is the best quality recording a joy division concert ever
Remember that during those trippy musical soundscapes Ian Curtis is flinging himself around the stage in his unique dance.
Whenever I listen to Ian talk song he always sounds analogous to Jim Morrison as if he's reading poetry with that meandering sea deep baritone impaling our hearts with his suicide, imagine the genius of Joy Division in the 21st century, the band title is embellished with such fiber and adieu to Joy Divided. Rest easy Ian. Liccle more brejin.
I guess it would be too good to be true
Ever heard of Ian's real voice in audio interviews?
@@Andermander429 I have, I thought Ian was very sexy and I wish he decided to live and deal with life's punches; I understand why he chose suicide, sometimes the clouds get too thick, but his talent amalgamated with the rest of the astounding Joy Division was Legend while he was alive...my eyes are full of tears now. I 💛 Ian, rest in God's bosom baby, we'll all get there eventually.
I just learned watching the biopic “Control” that he was a Jim Morrison fan and it makes so much sense.
Ian Curtis tinha alma, e podemos ter o prazer de perceber isso conforme as letras vão surgindo em sintonia com a bateria monótona e a guitarra violenta. Acredito que toda a História musical de Ian Curtis tenha sido um grande Adeus, desde o primeiro album ao segundo, desde as letras das músicas até a capa dos discos, tudo está relacionado com Ian de maneira a fazer sentido seu suicídio logo após o lançamento do segundo album. É como se ele simplesmente soubesse que iria partir, e todo seu trabalho segue uma certa calma. É um puta de um trabalho bom.
Ian Curtis músico extraordinário pena ter partido tam cedo
what a beautiful piece of art this is
It doesn't get much better than this people
This version of atmosphere is simply majestic, without doubt their finest hour.
brilliant recording, 1 of joy division's best live concerts
Not recorded by me. I'm afraid Johnnie at times. Encoding it to .avi for TH-cam. Makes it sound better. Thank you for a response. It is all I ever want. But rarely get
@@garrywilliam1459 And Ian's last...
And Ian's last...
@@sjaakdevries3917 wtf it's not Ian's last
@@andrzejlemonkrasol yeah the one on Still is his last
Gratitude to whoever recorded this! I just remembered how this is the recording that was my first encounter with Joy Division. I was 17 and a classmate had copied over this cassette tape of the bootleg, after Ian already passed. I had this cassette for a long time, and never forgot Ian saying, "Welcome to the Atrocity Exhibition" in that deep tone. I've been missing this bootleg (never threw my cassette tapes away, but I could not find it anymore). It is so awesome that you uploaded this. Great quality, too! One more thing: I feel like I have never understood the anguish that Ian was going through, until now.
I just read the atrocity exhibition and got chills down my spine when Ian said it, so good!
I can understand it..
I brokes my heart
Love it . Thank you so much for posting.
"Directionless so plain to see. A loaded gun won't set you free... so _you_ say."
Despite the poor soul hanging himself, that line from New Dawn Fades is perhaps a chilling bit of foreshadowing into his suicide. There seem to be many hints into Ian's hopelessness and despair...you could see it in his eyes. He was ethereal...
Chris McKown never romanticize suicide
@@kikeheebchinkjigaboo6631 Please explain how that comment romanticises anything?
Joe Rodriguez I can’t stand people like you.
@@kikeheebchinkjigaboo6631 How that comment romantized suicide bro?!
damn! is beautiful this sound, the energy is incredible. we miss you ian :(
WOW! SUCH QUALITY SOUND
that bass player brought the slop to love with tear us apart. yeesh.
Jamie Dailey yeah he had a few bum notes there. Might’ve been that it was the first song on the second set and he wasn’t warmed up or something because he did a fine job on the rest of the songs.
'that bass player' - you must mean the one and only Peter Hook, whose bassline formed the song LWTUA (one of their weakest songs in my opinion) and whose musical contributions to the group's repertoire cannot be underestimated. A group who definitely ALL contributed to each track, but one has to say the bass was so significant that 'that bass player' certainly stamped his own personality all over their music. He is definitely sloppy in places but that was part of their charm too....they emerged in the punk era, when yawn inducing virtuosity and robot-like precision were not key. They were often pretty drunk too - just watch a lot of Bernard's early New Order performances - gripped with fear and almost unable to face the audience he would often mess up guitar parts, mess up his vocals and occasionally (Glastonbury 1981 being a 'great' example), fall flat on his back. Fantastic, shambolic punk- not - punk group. Peace and love xxxx
Sven Hassle man when Barney fell on his back while performing Procession I lost it. So funny. He was absolutely wasted lmao. And yeah I agree with what you’re saying. I do think lwtua is a good song though. Great lyrics and it’s good musically too. But repetitive but I like it the way it is. An emotional song that nearly anyone can relate to. It’s got nothing on songs like Decades though.
David Dockery - agreed - LWTUA is a great song, granted, I just think there are far better tunes in their canon - The Sound Of Music, 24 Hours, Day Of The Lords....oooh I could go on and on but won't....LWTUA IS a great pop song and such a shame that what happened happened as that was about to be a 'hit' and makes one wonder what the band would have done next.....but alternate histories are a bit futile so.........and yes, Decades is fantastic!.
I actually saw a copy of and held in my own hands a copy of the Sordide Sentimentale record last year......felt pretty special, but ridiculously expensive.......
Sven Hassle yeah I agree with you there. New Order did make some great stuff though so I’m happy enough with that.
I can still remember the shiver that went through me the first time I heard them play Insight live. Can't quite recreate it with this because I can't turn it up loud enough for those sounds to pierce my skull the way it did back then, but this is how I remember them.
You caught em live?
All I can say at this, my first listen is WOW...I am listening with my mouth hanging open and goosebumps all over...I will have more to say after I listen a few times...
Great name for a band....love 'em
Tho they did get some slack for the whole Nazi connection, plus the cove of their first 7" single didn't help.
@@JaymeSplendid actually no one batted an eyelid it's only now with libtards
Phil Strange no back then they kept being accused of being Nazis. Most people didn’t gaf but it’s not true that “nobody batted an eyelid” . Probably more people than now actually because when they first started people didn’t know much about them
Did this ever get pressed onto vinyl? It is astonishing in quality for a live gig at that time. You really sort to understand, how the band felt Martin Hannett 'betrayed' their live sound when producing Unknown Pleasures - but even as recently as a month or so ago, all three remaining JD members confessed of the genius of Hannett and appreciate the far sighted vision of the guy - making that record absolutely timeless, while moving far beyond their youthful punk oriented outlook. Even Hannett would not have ever imagined the 'long-gevity' (Peter Hook) - of this epic masterpiece.
I just bought a bootleg of the show on Amazon, apparently the pressing quality is pretty good too
Great concert like how they sounded so much heavier playing live no matter how many years go by always come back to joy division
In terms of sound quality, this must be the best live JD document that exists. Why did they never use for Still or Heart and Soul BS?
Baffles me why they wouldn't.
Passover, New Dawn are from Amsterdam on one of the editions of Les Baines Douches (Paris). But ALL the French and Dutch soundboard-shows should released, Holy Dionysus. Will Factory do the right thing?
@@jasonlynn1017 - really don't know!
Royalties. Dutch radio own this.
PERFECT with the storm in my back garden , must be moving 60 mph or 70 ...yessss! ..lol
I had the pleasure of having the bootleg version of this & the full Eindhoven concerts I purchased on cassette 1984 in Dublin, what a treat to hear it in this format, A treasure.
FANTASTIC RECORDING ..THANKS THANKS THANKS......THANKS
How about Echo....?
29:23 I about jumped out my seat it sounded like they were about the play 'Procession' by New Order. Lol.
SnowyParker same here lol
Disorder...damn, just amazing... in the end with all the history of Ian as such, listen to these young men , this energy giving and sending thru Ian...this yank Misses you my brother... enjoy
yeah joy division , what can you say ! I find myself driving extremely fast to work on the freeway to tracks like shadow play and digital and dead souls , surely in for some speeding tickets soon , anyways this here is the nectar , the audio I love. instead of us feeling robbed of the lack of albums were all very lucky we got all these great tracks to feel and enjoy in or lives ... a legend ian was ...
JUST ONE QUICK POST BEFORE I BOOK AND THIS IS REALLY SPECIAL---LIVE JOY DIVISION WITH PEERLESS SOUND QUALITY.
I'm sure some of you out there are already acquainted with this gig at Paradiso in Amsterdam in 1980. Here's some info from a blog. "The local support didn't want to play so Joy Division stood in for them. They played two completely different sets for the price of one."
And how it was described in a fanzine at the time: 'When I arrived at the Paradiso, it appeared that most of the regular visitors had decided to stay at home. So the JOY DIVISION played for a handful of people only, two long sets, together around 70 minutes of excellent music. At that time only 1 album and 2 singles had been released, so they played a lot of new songs that went down well with the small audience. The gig was (along with the PIL-gig in Bruxelles) the best I have ever seen. Fantastic bass playing by PETER HOOK and a spastic, strained IAN CURTIS. For the occasion the Paradiso management had lowered the ceiling to make things more intimate. It was a good idea. Shame to all the people who stayed at home' SJC
This is the most bootlegged live Joy Division show, but I'm not sure any of the bootlegs have sound this good. If they do, I certainly want to snag a copy.
Set 1
Passover 0:00
Wilderness 2:52
Digital 5:49
Day of the Lords 9:10
Insight 13:55
New Dawn Fades 17:42
Disorder 22:25
Transmission 25:41
Set 2
Love Will Tear Us Apart 29:23
These Days 33:36
A Means To An End 37:40
Twenty Four Hours 41:51
Shadowplay 46:15
She's Lost Control 50:02
Atrocity Exhibition 53:58
Encore
Atmosphere 1:02:42
Interzone 1:08:02
2 sets. omg! cannot imagine both sets had this insane intensity.
Thanks so much for this comment. I've just gotten to know about Joy Division in recent weeks. These are such interesting details, I love it when people share stuff like that.
Great story to what went on Willie. Makes it all even more ethereal! Mad days.
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Somebody commented on this show saying during Digital at one point, Ian Curtis appeared to vanish in front of his eyes, and that multiple people witnessed this, I'm kind of curious about if anyone has anymore info on what actually happened. I couldn't believe the quality of the show when I first found it but that detail tripped me out a bit.
A bally awesome album. Yep, totally agree GWK(Sam), would've been absolutely massive to have been there. If time travel becomes a normal thing before I die, this is one concert I'm gonna go to.
DaggylMc Gra Just realised, that I would've turned 14 the day after this concert. So the time travel thing'll be a birthday treat.
see you there
The only Joy Division bootleg I've heard that really shows the power of their live sound and f**king rocks !
This is great but Les Baines Douches is even better imho.
Here's Shadowplay: th-cam.com/video/FRaXiLMnDgo/w-d-xo.html
Great quality.I remember the paradiso poster i saw with the concert announcement...It was a day after the show so i missed it.Did not know the band and listened to it in the record store.I bought them all that day...Best band ever
Many people say Martin Hannett was the master behind Joy Division and he was but this is the living prove Joy Division sounded like a record and of course ahead for its time even live. Just listen Insight 13:55, These Days 33:36 and A Means To An End 37:40. This band is untouchable.
These Days is incredible. Their melodies are well beyond their years. Modern artists wish they could come up with something like that song
had tickets to see Joy Division at the Starwood in early June 1980 in LA on their first US tour a few months after this show, if this was the set I would have left mesmerized,
Nah, it would've been more like Birmingham May 2nd, a tired Ian and a listless band. They should've come to the States in January instead of doing this tour, playing to small crowds of indifferent Euros. Imagine if they'd been at the Starwood in mid January, relaxing by the pool at the Tropicana Hotel, soaking up a few days of L.A. sunshine with a few gigs in town and one down in San Diego, it might've totally revitalized Ian. It hurts my brain to know what could have been, instead of them freezing their asses off in Europe.
The REAL question however, is, DID YOU KEEP THE STARWOOD TICKET??
@@RiotNrrrdUTube May have made a difference perhaps, but I am afraid Ian had other plans or the plans chose him. To answer your real question, NO ... ahh .... we had to return the tickets back to the Starwood in order to get our money back, had I known better ( what 15 year old kid does ) I should have kept the ticket and ate the $6.00. I did however see B People who were the band that was to open for JD open for New Order on their first LA performance at Perkins Palace in late 1981. Great show, but kind of sad and depressing at the same time. I never knew JD had plans to play in San Diego, that's a new one to me but according to this site, looks like they were. This website had some critical dates of the tour and notes ... enjoy !! www.joydiv.org/cancel.htm
@@Mr.Steve-O Same here, had to return my ticket, if I'd known what we know now, etc.!
I was also at that New Order Perkins show as well, do you remember it being that full? My memory's not what it was ("Dave ... can feel it going, Dave ... I can feel it ... ").
Been on the JD Central site for years, great forums to commiserate in over what might have been ...
The best version of Atrocity Exhibition holy shit what a trip.
.".thi is the way....
..step inside..."
...la eternidad..ahora y para siempre..
R.i.p...Ian
Day of the Lords for me
79' 81' Paradiso Amsterdam home to Blighty frm 3yr in S.A., had to get OUT/oFF to live & Work, Nederlands in my blood IT IS Breda X ,Stiff little Fingers I remember too FANTASTIC place ...Acoustics best EVER... get this recording for your children ....Topshelf back then ...:)))) luv you Ian Curtis .
I love their live records, it seems almost like a religious ritual, while studio versions present something different, more urban and contemporary... I love both
To me it seems like they live stuff is how they're truly meant to be experienced. Messy and chaotic with an undercurrent of sublime beauty and gravitas. Something the studio stuff doesn't exactly hit.
Best joy division on headphones ever!
I love this version of "Interzone". Peter Hook singing- Genius! And "These Days"... what can i say?
Ian no cantó porque había sufrido un ataque epiléptico
@@derekdaniel2242no this is absolutely not true lmao. you can hear him doing background vocals. peter hook tweeted about it
@@fantabulouso1647 can i see those tweets?
@@derekdaniel2242 look up peter hook interzone and you’ll see his tweet pop up
...makes perfect sense still to this day, wish I was there then.
Masterpiece.!!! Thanks for posting.
Wow. Never knew they had played Closer live.
Easily the best sounding live JD set I've heard on TH-cam. Thanks for uploading this.
I read somewhere on the WWW that this was not the radio broadcast but a reel to reel recording made by someone who kept the tapes for years not intending to make them public. A few years ago he decided it was time to do so. I downloade this a few years ago from a blog that clamed it was the reel to reel tape. The artwork was also on that blog. A shame that this was never released officially.
And here I thought I owned all the Joy Division stuff. Thanks!
Isn't it amazing how thirty years on, Joy Division stuff is still miraculously appearing?
Banana Fish Bliss Why?
The Live at Paradiso A‘dam is old!
I bought it in the early 90‘s!
But the Cover looks a bit different.
Mr. rrrrrrromro : Ha ha ha 🤣👏
Awesome, great quality live set...
Best recording of JD period. No producer getting in the way.
I have a far inferior copy of this, I wasn't sure it was the same until Ian's comment at the end of Digital. I've always been amazed by Bernards guitar playing, he doesn't look like he has it in him. Outstanding.
steveobie1 You can’t help but just listen in awe to his playing in Digital. Brilliant stuff
He was a sloppy amateur but always had a good ear for a melody which he used brilliantly in New Order on the synths and vocals
@@s1050 Man, I wish Bernard had taken guitar much more seriously. He could’ve been considered one of those guitar heroes. But he’s still a guitar hero in my heart :)
Shoutout to all my JD listeners whether you are old, young, extremely nostalgic of this time or just surpised by how modern it stills sound. If you listen to a lot of Joy Division (like too much) I hope you are doing well on your life and not struggling with existential problems. But if you are suffuring from all those issues, have a good therapy with this retranscriprion. My favourite one is Atrocity Exhibition personnally.
this version is way better than the remastered version!
Holly god.Great concert.Meu deus ,que concerto! !!!
Adorava ter assistido
Excellent beyond words.i love how barney plays quietly when ian sings and rocks when he doesnt sing,some songs not all though🍺😃i want this on CD
Tears!!!
I'm still only at New Dawn Fades...
Such a sound...
It's cold!!!
I can't believe that Ian put down such a long concert...
SImply brilliant. New Dawn Fades - just wow.
That shows you don´t need to be a good musician to be a great musician. Excellent.
Sounds Brilliant From The Best Band Of All Time ✝️
So glad I was there to witness such a genius and great band and the ones that followed ,very special days ,what have kids got today social media and bloody lockdowns...RIP Ian Curtis ...
so happy all of this is saved
this is beautiful! i love this so much. thanks!
i miss those dark 70s/80s
rriffrraff tell us more, please.
I’d love to hear what it was like to listen to Joy Division in the 70’s.
I’m frying acid!
@@danielgreen8483 After the birth of punk via the Sex Pistols, yes there were other bands about doing similar, but none grabbed the attention of them. Other bands of significance that came out are The Fall, A Certain Ratio, Stranglers, Devo, Siouxsie, Buzzcocks, Joy Div, The Cure...in fact the list can go on for the 70's and I mean on and on , it was honestly a huge, and I mean a huge diversity of music genres, from Rock to progressive rock to heavy rock, you then had R&B, to Soul to Disco, You had Reggae to the first instances of Dub...in between all that there was also the mainstream stuff which to be honest, a lot of it was pretty pleasant, someone will correct me here for missing a genre and other stuff, but I'm typing off the cuff.
Joy Division arrived...they appeared at Factory and to be honest it was nothing special, you could turn up there on a Monday night, be three people in...JD would be playing...turn up a couple of nights later, there would be 20 people in, 19 probably lost trying to find Wigan casino...but they would be playing yet again with a another band or two, I used to get in about 9 ish each night, I probably missed a band. JD were nothing big to be honest....then all of a sudden, there were a couple of tracks that they did became I don't know, perhaps 'polished' ...Atrocity E was one...I deffo noticed a shift in it's play...a couple of others such as Shadow Play, were far better, along with the rest of the circuit they were doing....they just...to be honest....got it....and, before you knew it, getting in the Factory at 9 pm was far gone....you needed to be there at 4pm...There are also shit loads of other groups who played at Factory...The Fall,James, Happy Mondays, Duritti Column...the horrible thing is though. Is being there and not really listening to those bands, and missing out on the realisation of who they were to become. They were taken for granted.
I miss the 70's.......everyone turned to shit in the 80's though...
hey, then must be everything ok... 2020 is dark
@@stewmercer800 Glam rock.....
The crazy ferocity, intensity, and sinewy funkiness in the version of Atrocity Exhibition here is just unparalleled. The whole live show is absolutely amazing, but that song in particular sounds absolutely unique and amazing.
Master Piece. Ian Curtis , Genius ❤
WOW !!!! Thank you so much for sharing this classic and unique performance
This version of Disorder is unbelieveable.
unbelievably full of mistakes and slowdowns
Barney messes up and Ian’s mic fucks up
Best Disorder is Paris December 1979
@@outrocanal8167 Your profile picture is sacrilegious
this recording is absolutely phenomenal whoever were the audio and acoustic engineers on this were genius my little cellphone speaker can't do this justice I would love to hear this in a large concert hall with a massive sound system or a lazer light show like the old Pink Floyd ones this deserves a proper vinyl release ⭐⭐⭐⭐⭐
This sounds freaking great!
Fair play to you for adding such an an absolute blinding recording...warts and all. Raw and brilliant. Few bands have ever touched my inner soul and probably never will.
New dawn fades é algo do outro mundo adoro e me revejo muito nela grande Ian Curtis
1980 i was listening to unknown pleasures everyday and later still.. Saw New Order in 82 but was like a surrogate.. even a great concert..
Bought the bootleg tape of this in 1980 for £1.50p and then found a review that Curtis disappeared in front of the writer's eyes for 10 secs during Atrocity Exhibition. I still believe the writer.
How would that work, did he dance so hard that he nearly time traveled?
valid point but him dancing so hard that he could nearly time travel is funnier.
*****
What? are you saying Curtis isn't a God! BURN THE HERETIC!!!!
If you look at accounts of this performance, at the ending of Atrocity Exhibition Ian went into sort of a trance due to hydration/ and or epilepsy, and had to be helped off stage by a roadie while the rest of the band played on. That's probably what the reviewer meant.
yes agreed... thanks you've cleared the superstitious nonsense
Wow!
Incredible sound quality, I salute you sir, many thanks for uploading this👍🏻
Beautiful! Thank you for this!
Now I finally have an idea of what JD sounds like live
Merci
Thanks for posting this, this is ... pure joy
I absolutely love that one different guitar note on she's lost control
Excelente álbum obrigado por partilhar.
Meaningful! Thank you for uploading this gem! Clean!
gracias por subir este live
15:23 estaban a otro nivel.... Es un viaje
I had this on vinyl in 1981, sounds terrific!
Long-time JD fan and I must say this is my all-time fav. Outstanding gig, great quality recording.
One of best live live records of JD
Um dos melhores de sempre ian curtes
Have the bootleg cassette of this concert I bought at a used record "shop" in London in May 1980. Believe me when I say this searching for JD bootleg tapes back then was what crackheads would do for a hit. Anything and yes we paid crazy prices for tapes of other gigs that were utter shit sound quality. This was the best.
18 mayo 2024 aquí 🤰🏽 ❤ conmemorando tu memoria gracias por tanto Ian Curtis.... Siempre en casa ✨💫
JD at his best time, seen them live in Frankfurt it was absolutly one of the best shows i ve ever saw!!!
How did I just find out about this? the quality is great!
Maravilha ,a qualidade ao vivo está ótima , parabéns isso é uma raridade 👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏🇧🇷🎸
Awesome , this captures JD
Le son est encore meilleur que sur mon bootleg de 2015 - qui est pourtant excellent !
Superbe Disorder et Transmission !