"Those are all the details on the new stumpy so let's jump on over and see how it rides," *pauses for effect* ....Great video guys, can't wait to see the roundtable discussion and how the bikes compare
I'm floating around You Tube and found the info I needed HERE to Zero in on a new MTB Trail Bike. I ended up with a StumpJumper Carbon basic build @4G's. These reviews solidified the deal as I was able to buy locally after considering mail order.Just don't want to wait 2 to 3 weeks! I rode yesterday already .........!
These days I'd rather be underbiked for the 10% of the time I'm on extreme terrain, than be overbiked for the 90% of the time I am on regular trails. Sign me up for efficient, shorter travel trail bikes!
I used to over bike to get the performance the new bikes get with big wheels and less but better travel . I’m on a 160mm 26” Kona Abracadabra 2013 model. 29” wheels and 130mm travel is more capable these days .
Would love a review of this quality with a model stumpy that has a more realistic price range. The alloy at 2200 is not cheap but at least it's a possibility.
The sizing is a BIG DEAL. a BIG deal. I'm stumped why everyone is buying bikes that are too large for them. At 6ft I buy med frame size. They want me to buy large, but they simply are NOT playful enough. But now, under Specialized, I can buy a mid-med frame size. three HUGE thumbs up!!
I've recently bought a comp. It's my first 29er and I must say it's a great bike. I came from a Cannondale Prophet which is also a great piece of kit. The one negative of the Specialized compared to the Cannondale is the weight climbing, it's slow and that's with lighter wheels. I've also extended the fork travel and put the largest volume reducer into the shock for more support which is brilliant, feel like I'm getting more travel. Overall a decent bike.
I have the carbon comp with a set of Elitewheels pro 36 wheels. Ground control and Fast trak tyres and it comes to 13.1 Kg including pedals. The heaviest part is definitly the Rhythm 34 grip fork. What does yourbike weight?
I've demoed a few different model years of the Stumpjumper, and it's always felt like am incredible bike! I can just forget it's under me, like I'm flying.
It's very well said. I own the carbon comp model and it's extremely capable. It's an awesome descending bike that climb super fast all what I want and need. Well done Specialized!!
Can I ask what you weigh and if you added any volume spacers? I'm 210 and the fact this little guy is 150lbs (which seems to be who these bikes are typically built for) I'm a little concerned about how the bike will perform for folks in the taller/heavier weight categories.
@@konos3951 I am 75kg (whatever that is in pounds) I added 2 tokens in the fork and changed the yellow for a orange in the rear shock. Loved it! I reckon if you'd go for the carbon expert with the new fox 34 performance elite (with grip 2 damper) you would be disappointed, it's an awesome fork. I have the same in 36 on another bike and it's the best fork I ever owned!
Thank you for the great review. The S-Works is lighter and handles different than the heavier bikes. Most intermediate riders won't feel the difference. Save the cash and buy the lightest model you can afford. I have had 2 and 3rd on order. Great bikes and they are awesome on singletrack in NC.
Has Speshy's game ever been so universally on-point? Every MTB they've released recently has been a complete slam-dunk not only on looks and performance but also on value relative to the competition. And it's not even just the MTBs, they are also killing it in the roadie world right now, too. I'd be really curious to hear how the alloy versions of the new Stumpy compare to the carbon ones. Does the retention of the Horst link change the narrative on how this bike rides?
... Is invisible. It had a big curve in it before the bike lands, that’s just the shape it is. I don’t know why it’s not the same shape as the drive side, but it’s not. You can see the curve in the shots when it’s just being ridden normally too.
Specialized have me on the hook somehow. Since I´ve got the 2020 Stumpy Evo S3 I´m really convinced that, "No matter what bikes I´ll buy in the future, I will definitely never sell my Stumpy"... Damn I´ma fanboi now...
I’d say the ripmo v2 is a bit more of a goat with climbing. This is coming from someone who just ordered the 2021 sj evo. So they are pretty comparable with slight edge to the ibis on climbs.
@@carlosolivas7280 ehhh the ripmo is definitely gonna be a lot slower on climbs but probably comparable on the descents. The ripley is definitely gonna be up there on the climbs but is gonna fall back on the descents.
Is an s-works build really relevant? I'd like to see a more representative build that reflects consumer interest. Reviewing the top spec model feels like it's more about promoting the brand than looking at what most customers will buy. I like PB because I've always felt that PB is more about riders than manufacturers. Testing top spec bikes feels like an affront to that.
@@dundundata7603 I get what your saying, but let me put it to you this way, to what extent would a BMW M3 review be relevant to a 320d? Sure, the touch points, HVAC, boot space etc will be the same, but how comparable is the driving experience? If you have ever changed your bike's wheels, or even just the tyres, or gone from tubed to tubeless, you'll know how big a difference there is in the riding experience. So, comparing two bikes with the same architecture, but different suspension, cockpit, grips, saddle, tyres, wheels; it then becomes extremely difficult to see what is actually relevant. But then again, that is why manufacturers want magazines to test the top of the range, because we as consumers will erroneously assume that what makes the top of the range great will also be applicable to lower models in the range. My original comment about the s-works and its relevance are as simple as me thinking; that's outside my budget, I don't know to what extent this review represents the model that is within my budget, therefore I can't use this review to compare a lower tier model with a competitor.
What we really need to see is the Stumpy vs Optic test. 2020 mtb of the year vs 2021 mtb of the year. Would be really interesting to see, because Specialized basically copied Norco's geometry
everyone is copying everyone else's designs. How do you think Norco got off the ground? Real innovation is difficult, expensive, and often gets it's butt kicked. Norco is an innovator though. Apple products are better for having to compete against manuf who make Smartphones for smart people... and their competitors offer better products for having to compete against Apple: who offers smartphones for dumb people.
I like that we are both 5'10" and 155 lb, makes it easy to adapt your feedback. I'm pretty keen to try this bike, Bob rode it when he brought the demo fleet here and he freaking shredded it.
I really hope we see the price range for these test. I think this bike has really good builds for the money and I wish we could’ve seen them send something besides their top spec
@pinkbike I feel like this new Stumpy is aimed squarely at the Yeti SB130 territory with the same wheel size, rear travel and very well rounded performance. Would you compare the 2 and why don't we see videos comparing new field test bikes to ones which aren't new but are still relevant?
@@FourOneOneClan Once you are off the first owner you technically don’t have any warranty through any company, unless you get the papers from the seller as well.
In theory carbon fiber has a better fatigue limit than aluminum, so I would think it would be fine, haven't said that I would want to be the second owner
@@peterk7662 Hey Peter, It was a really good bike. Before I was riding a Enduro Evo Expert from Specialized and a S-Works Camper from 2021 (if I remember correctly). The S-Works stumpjumper is beyond any of that. It's stiff but very menouvable and easy to ride. It's difficult to put into words but I'll say, it's not "worth the money". I paid 115.000 Danish kroner which is around $17,000. It's a lot of money for a piece of carbon frame with some wheels and I would never argue that it's worth the money because it's not. If I had to recommend something high-end I'd say, go for the Pro version or perhaps the Experts version. Getting the S-Works is just not worth the extra cash unless you ride hard, you ride to win and every second counts. If I had to choose today (and I have ridden s-works for maany years). I would buy a cheaper version like a Canyon. I did however sell my bike and got a Pinarello Dogma F which I love to this date :)
Short effective seat tube length is all very well, but that huge kink below the upper linkage looks like there's barely any room for the dropper. Not much point in a low seat tube if you can't slam a longer dropper in there...
Me three. Pinkbike users will rarely be spending 10k USD on a trail bike. We want to hear about the most high volume sales models that's going to keep me hooked on every word instead of wondering if should look for another review.
Bought mine last month...my 2nd Stumpy after 2019...well it's a good trail bike for Spore terrain with substantial suspension...Good job Specialized R&D Team...
Have to ask. How does it compare to the Ripley. The two bikes I am considering on buy this stumpjumper or the Ripley. Appreciate any thoughts on this. Thanks for the great review
Great review as normal. My question to you Mike is how do you compare the new Stumpy to the Orbea Occam you reviewed earlier this year? At the time you made the statement "It feels like a more efficient Stumpjumper". Would be interested in what you think know? By the way I was looking at both, waiting for the new Stumpy but went for the Occam M10 in the end. Great bike.
I live in Kelowna and I’m thinking about entering in the BC Bike race this year. Need some advice on the bike to use for the event. Would a light setup. From light XC bikes to trail bikes, what’s the sweet spot for travel and bike weight? Would the stumpy 130mm back and front be to much bike? Would an Epic Evo with a 130mm for be better? Can you give me a couple of examples of rider setups. Cheers
How do you guys feel about the $2200 alloy version? Im interested in picking one up but cant afford the higher end models. Would be cool if you did a review on one
I have it! This base model gets you going! I have ridden all over the bay area and in santa cruz! It does not get scared to get rowdy next to the big dogs. Only downside are the brakes. Will be upgrading them.
Field test time is the best time of the year, I love you guys.
Honestly
And we got TWO of them in 2020!
@@vomErsten yeah duuude!!
Seems like the Stumpy is back to it' roots as a do-it-all bike.
I love how Levy is always helping us expand our vocabulary - "nimbility"
I like that word too! ;)
Really intriguing bike. May have to save up for one of the models priced lower than a small hatchback.
I have a deposit on an Elite for next March. It's my first new bike in 15 years. Moving from a Stumpy, to the new Stumpy. Looking forward to it.
Well done Mike. I agree, a zippy, snappy trail bike is a thing of beauty.
"Those are all the details on the new stumpy so let's jump on over and see how it rides," *pauses for effect* ....Great video guys, can't wait to see the roundtable discussion and how the bikes compare
I'm floating around You Tube and found the info I needed HERE to Zero in on a new MTB Trail Bike.
I ended up with a StumpJumper Carbon basic build @4G's.
These reviews solidified the deal as I was able to buy locally after considering mail order.Just don't want to wait 2 to 3 weeks! I rode yesterday already .........!
These days I'd rather be underbiked for the 10% of the time I'm on extreme terrain, than be overbiked for the 90% of the time I am on regular trails. Sign me up for efficient, shorter travel trail bikes!
I used to over bike to get the performance the new bikes get with big wheels and less but better travel . I’m on a 160mm 26” Kona Abracadabra 2013 model. 29” wheels and 130mm travel is more capable these days .
Thanks, you just decided my next bike
you guys should do a review on the lower end models of the bikes too coz most of us are gonna buy those bikes.
That would be what I called an “epic gamer” move
Did you ever pick one of these up? I did and so far I’m liking it after I’ve gotten the suspension tuned up for my weight and riding style.
Would love a review of this quality with a model stumpy that has a more realistic price range. The alloy at 2200 is not cheap but at least it's a possibility.
The Alloy is what i was hoping this review would be when i clicked the link...Was disappointed :(
Me three. Pinkbike users will rarely be spending 10k USD on a trail bike.
Yup. There it is! There's the bike that I can only ride in my sweet sweet dreams.
That bike looks like a blast to ride, and I think that’s what most people want.
kind of surprised they didnt test the 5010
The sizing of this is so good. More companies need to jump on this idea.
The sizing is a BIG DEAL. a BIG deal. I'm stumped why everyone is buying bikes that are too large for them. At 6ft I buy med frame size. They want me to buy large, but they simply are NOT playful enough. But now, under Specialized, I can buy a mid-med frame size. three HUGE thumbs up!!
I've recently bought a comp. It's my first 29er and I must say it's a great bike. I came from a Cannondale Prophet which is also a great piece of kit. The one negative of the Specialized compared to the Cannondale is the weight climbing, it's slow and that's with lighter wheels. I've also extended the fork travel and put the largest volume reducer into the shock for more support which is brilliant, feel like I'm getting more travel. Overall a decent bike.
I have the carbon comp with a set of Elitewheels pro 36 wheels. Ground control and Fast trak tyres and it comes to 13.1 Kg including pedals. The heaviest part is definitly the Rhythm 34 grip fork.
What does yourbike weight?
I've demoed a few different model years of the Stumpjumper, and it's always felt like am incredible bike! I can just forget it's under me, like I'm flying.
It's very well said. I own the carbon comp model and it's extremely capable. It's an awesome descending bike that climb super fast all what I want and need. Well done Specialized!!
Can I ask what you weigh and if you added any volume spacers? I'm 210 and the fact this little guy is 150lbs (which seems to be who these bikes are typically built for) I'm a little concerned about how the bike will perform for folks in the taller/heavier weight categories.
@@konos3951 I am 75kg (whatever that is in pounds) I added 2 tokens in the fork and changed the yellow for a orange in the rear shock. Loved it! I reckon if you'd go for the carbon expert with the new fox 34 performance elite (with grip 2 damper) you would be disappointed, it's an awesome fork. I have the same in 36 on another bike and it's the best fork I ever owned!
Me: I'm going to sell my motorbike to pay for an S-WORKS
Specialized: LOL good luck
NUTS for $8000
Man i wish I’d had a motorbike to sell!
Thank you for the great review. The S-Works is lighter and handles different than the heavier bikes. Most intermediate riders won't feel the difference. Save the cash and buy the lightest model you can afford. I have had 2 and 3rd on order. Great bikes and they are awesome on singletrack in NC.
Has Speshy's game ever been so universally on-point? Every MTB they've released recently has been a complete slam-dunk not only on looks and performance but also on value relative to the competition. And it's not even just the MTBs, they are also killing it in the roadie world right now, too.
I'd be really curious to hear how the alloy versions of the new Stumpy compare to the carbon ones. Does the retention of the Horst link change the narrative on how this bike rides?
Agreed. I just bought an enduro, I have one ride on it, and it is an absolute game-changer.
15:23 my god the flex on that chain stay :o
It's supposed to flex like that bc they got rid of the pivot (correct me if I'm wrong)
... Is invisible.
It had a big curve in it before the bike lands, that’s just the shape it is. I don’t know why it’s not the same shape as the drive side, but it’s not. You can see the curve in the shots when it’s just being ridden normally too.
Specialized have me on the hook somehow. Since I´ve got the 2020 Stumpy Evo S3 I´m really convinced that, "No matter what bikes I´ll buy in the future, I will definitely never sell my Stumpy"...
Damn I´ma fanboi now...
HI, how does it compared to an Ibis ripmo v2 or the ripley? Thanks
I’d say the ripmo v2 is a bit more of a goat with climbing. This is coming from someone who just ordered the 2021 sj evo. So they are pretty comparable with slight edge to the ibis on climbs.
@@carlosolivas7280 ehhh the ripmo is definitely gonna be a lot slower on climbs but probably comparable on the descents. The ripley is definitely gonna be up there on the climbs but is gonna fall back on the descents.
Just picked up one of these bad boys...It's amazing.
Wow great review guys! I have a ‘19 Stumpy and love it. But now I want to check this bad boy out.
Is an s-works build really relevant? I'd like to see a more representative build that reflects consumer interest. Reviewing the top spec model feels like it's more about promoting the brand than looking at what most customers will buy. I like PB because I've always felt that PB is more about riders than manufacturers. Testing top spec bikes feels like an affront to that.
totally agree, wish they would review the comp models for a more real world example, that said the reviewer is very good.
it's the same bike just better parts/lighter. it shows what the bike can do at its best.
@@dundundata7603 I get what your saying, but let me put it to you this way, to what extent would a BMW M3 review be relevant to a 320d? Sure, the touch points, HVAC, boot space etc will be the same, but how comparable is the driving experience?
If you have ever changed your bike's wheels, or even just the tyres, or gone from tubed to tubeless, you'll know how big a difference there is in the riding experience. So, comparing two bikes with the same architecture, but different suspension, cockpit, grips, saddle, tyres, wheels; it then becomes extremely difficult to see what is actually relevant.
But then again, that is why manufacturers want magazines to test the top of the range, because we as consumers will erroneously assume that what makes the top of the range great will also be applicable to lower models in the range.
My original comment about the s-works and its relevance are as simple as me thinking; that's outside my budget, I don't know to what extent this review represents the model that is within my budget, therefore I can't use this review to compare a lower tier model with a competitor.
You’ll want the Pro in that case
U gotta test drive one within your budget anyway right?
This review just allows u to determine if ya wanna test drive it.
Thats a bergain that the canyon spectral 29 came a little late to add it in this field test
Canyon spectral is 27,5
@@josep.peruga not anymore
for your becoming poor speedrun just buy any s works bike
I was lucky to get one of these in that stunning black. Love It
Yes such a sick bike great review
What we really need to see is the Stumpy vs Optic test. 2020 mtb of the year vs 2021 mtb of the year. Would be really interesting to see, because Specialized basically copied Norco's geometry
everyone is copying everyone else's designs. How do you think Norco got off the ground? Real innovation is difficult, expensive, and often gets it's butt kicked. Norco is an innovator though. Apple products are better for having to compete against manuf who make Smartphones for smart people... and their competitors offer better products for having to compete against Apple: who offers smartphones for dumb people.
I like that we are both 5'10" and 155 lb, makes it easy to adapt your feedback. I'm pretty keen to try this bike, Bob rode it when he brought the demo fleet here and he freaking shredded it.
How do you guys like the base model of Stump jumper at $2200?
It’s a fantastic bike
I wasn’t a specialized fan but.... now 😉
I really hope we see the price range for these test. I think this bike has really good builds for the money and I wish we could’ve seen them send something besides their top spec
@pinkbike I feel like this new Stumpy is aimed squarely at the Yeti SB130 territory with the same wheel size, rear travel and very well rounded performance. Would you compare the 2 and why don't we see videos comparing new field test bikes to ones which aren't new but are still relevant?
very good and detailed review!!! especially with some rationality applied!
Impressive results for the shorter travel bike. Would have been awesome to see an Esker Rowl in this group.
I think this is the winner 🏆
Curious How durable that flex pivot is. Like what happens when it fails and I don’t think the frame has lifetime warranty either.
It does have a lifetime warranty
@@Tom-fn8xc for the first owner of the bike or all owners?
@@FourOneOneClan Once you are off the first owner you technically don’t have any warranty through any company, unless you get the papers from the seller as well.
In theory carbon fiber has a better fatigue limit than aluminum, so I would think it would be fine, haven't said that I would want to be the second owner
@@FourOneOneClan Lifetime for first, two years from retail purchase date for second-hand.
this guy is like the linus tech tips of bikes
Where do all these bikes go after testing anyway?
Beats sounding really really fresh!
Love these vids
Mine is already ordered and ready on Friday!
Do you still own and ride it? How's it been for you?
@@peterk7662 Hey Peter, It was a really good bike. Before I was riding a Enduro Evo Expert from Specialized and a S-Works Camper from 2021 (if I remember correctly). The S-Works stumpjumper is beyond any of that. It's stiff but very menouvable and easy to ride.
It's difficult to put into words but I'll say, it's not "worth the money". I paid 115.000 Danish kroner which is around $17,000. It's a lot of money for a piece of carbon frame with some wheels and I would never argue that it's worth the money because it's not. If I had to recommend something high-end I'd say, go for the Pro version or perhaps the Experts version. Getting the S-Works is just not worth the extra cash unless you ride hard, you ride to win and every second counts.
If I had to choose today (and I have ridden s-works for maany years). I would buy a cheaper version like a Canyon.
I did however sell my bike and got a Pinarello Dogma F which I love to this date :)
You guys have 2000000000% better bikes than me
This is my dream bike
Just 10 grand lmfao
Short effective seat tube length is all very well, but that huge kink below the upper linkage looks like there's barely any room for the dropper. Not much point in a low seat tube if you can't slam a longer dropper in there...
It will be either a stumpy or new Pivot Shadowcat. I’m coming off 26”. Gotta see if I like 29” or 27.5”
Sounds similar to Trek's through shaft reaktiv. Nice bike looks like a blast to ride!
Love these vids- thank you
Totally digging this Stumpy 🔥🔥🔥🔥
Hi guyz ! great video here as always, did you think about testing a Canyon spectral ? they just release a 29" version of it.
Is nimbility a word? Classic Levy
Me three. Pinkbike users will rarely be spending 10k USD on a trail bike. We want to hear about the most high volume sales models that's going to keep me hooked on every word instead of wondering if should look for another review.
thank you bro for this honest review.
Bought mine last month...my 2nd Stumpy after 2019...well it's a good trail bike for Spore terrain with substantial suspension...Good job Specialized R&D Team...
I wish I can spend 9000 dollars on a bike like you one day 🙏😌
@@iwishthaticanbelikethecool6476 well in Spore dollars is $14250
@@VAG-eb2xi even worst jesus congrats on the bike though
@@iwishthaticanbelikethecool6476 but selling off soon as I m afraid i got the wrong size...
@@VAG-eb2xi damn don’t you get a test feel and ride before you buy a bike for 14,000 dollars ?
Epic vid! Did you notice any flex in the frame at all?
1:39 in slomo the rear suspension looks like rigid af.
Can you replace that Fork 34 for a 36 150mm???
Thanks for all your efforts here but please, start with enduro reviews already!
Love the fact you guys test bikes with same tires fair game 👍👍
Can you guys review the alloy model , the cheapass one ? cheers
You should do the specialised stumpjumper EVO Expert vs Canyon Spectral 29 CF 8
MTB FOR LIFE Vital have just done that exact review
Have to ask. How does it compare to the Ripley. The two bikes I am considering on buy this stumpjumper or the Ripley. Appreciate any thoughts on this.
Thanks for the great review
Great review as normal. My question to you Mike is how do you compare the new Stumpy to the Orbea Occam you reviewed earlier this year? At the time you made the statement "It feels like a more efficient Stumpjumper". Would be interested in what you think know? By the way I was looking at both, waiting for the new Stumpy but went for the Occam M10 in the end. Great bike.
Just beautiful!
The Stumpy S-Works sounds like my kind of bike.
Which bike is more fun? The Stumpjumper or the Epic Evo?
Great series again Mike. So besides the stouter suspension, do you see differences in the capabilities of the Stumpy and the Norco Optic?
I also want to know
It's rare to see a specialized without the horstlink ...
Levy on the edge in some of those slo-mos lol
Can you guys try to do the new fuel ex 7?
Levy and 9:40 is on the gas!!!!
Hello, great video.
How does it compare to the 5010 mullet?
I wanna see the new slash!!!
I like specialised bikes but just seem a little over priced compared to competitors
I want one of these!
What rear hub/hubs are being used? How many points of engagements on the rear hub?
Did the stumpy feel under forked? Would it have been better with a 140mm 36?
Glad the swat hole is lighter than previously. My 2016 version is sooo heavy by comparison. 😐?
I live in Kelowna and I’m thinking about entering in the BC Bike race this year. Need some advice on the bike to use for the event. Would a light setup. From light XC bikes to trail bikes, what’s the sweet spot for travel and bike weight? Would the stumpy 130mm back and front be to much bike? Would an Epic Evo with a 130mm for be better? Can you give me a couple of examples of rider setups. Cheers
I personally am not a fan of the duracell colorway lol
😂😂😂😂🙌🏽
I think the ugly trek orange is the worst
These guys be riding tons of bikes wish to have the money to try at least one
Damn now I want one!
34 with grip 2 will be interesting to try out. Or at least the 34 factory/ performance elite won't get anymore pinkbiker hate lmao
you have Sierra Nevada bottle on the bike :-) Are you drinking pale ale when riding? :-) or maybe IPA?
Would you take this or the Yeti SB140 fif you had to choose a "do it all" bike?
I can’t decide whether to get a 2021 Stumpy or the 2021 Commencal Meta TR29. Any opinions about those two bikes?
Such a cool bike! I wish I had one! 😅
Isn't the flex stay already bowing in the opposite direction when the bike is static? Isn't that kinda like a negative airspring?
what size are the maxxis tires you put on the stumpy?
What’s the name of the bike rack in your intro?
How do you guys feel about the $2200 alloy version? Im interested in picking one up but cant afford the higher end models. Would be cool if you did a review on one
I have it! This base model gets you going! I have ridden all over the bay area and in santa cruz! It does not get scared to get rowdy next to the big dogs. Only downside are the brakes. Will be upgrading them.
I subbed❤️❤️
I wonder how different the aluminum rides? Anybody know?
Mathers Hale nobody knows mate. They only ever seem to test the s works in these review vids 🤷♂️
will the alloy bike feel similar to the carbon bike?
Sick
Seths head haa ,he should have kept that picture and the bike hack name IMO
That's a nice looking bike. :O