Built up my Cotic BFE Max last winter, hardtail party recommended!! Working on building up my Evo alloy this winter. To many great bikes and not enough time…..
@hardtail party Hey Steve have you made it public knowledge what FS bike you got recently? I think it's a specialized.. I've been curious what model you chose but wasn't sure if you hadn't said anything about it on purpose or if I just missed it.
@@hardtailparty I’m guessing it’s this, the Specialized Stumpjumper Evo. Btw I got my first bike, a Fuse Comp 21 recently trying to get into mountain biking, thanks for that review :)
@@hardtailparty do tell!!! My 35 year "hardtail party" finally ended in May when I joined the current millennium of full suspension design with an Ibis Ripley. LOVING it!
I have a Evo carbon that I built up and it's the dreamiest (Sam Pilgrim voice) bike I've ridden. It climbs so well and is a riot going down. I don't see me needing a new bike for a long time, especially since the evo has such modern geo.
I just bought this frameset and swapped over my Onyx wheelset and Bomber forks... this thing is amazing! It feels like an enduro bike that climbs as good as it descends!
This definitely made me feel good about my purchase! Picked up the base model two weeks ago as my first full suspension and I'm loving this bike. I agree with Kaz on the need for a larger volume spacer in the rear for big hits and flow trail. The Float X comes with a .2" spacer in it stock on this bike.
@@ozzmundo1 Although I do agree that it isn't the best hub it still works and theres no need to replace it unless it breaks. No need to make someone feel bad about their purchase.
@@adamcline121 hubs is the least of his problems. this bike suddenly brakes rear linkage of rear shock. Hope that doesnt happen to you at a remote place like me or imagine at high speeds lOL guaranteed hospital roadtrip
Got the base model last month. 100% agree with it being probably the best value at that price point. Nothing that needs to be upgraded right away, and will probably just upgrade as components wear out!
@@florianspatz7964 thanks for your personal opinion. Mine is people who nitpick every little thing is laughable. Plenty of bikes at the same price point come with NX, especially with the current market. The suspension spec is better than most sub 4k nowadays, which does not get replaced as often as the drivetrain. To each their own, I guess. Enjoy the trails bud
I bought the Evo alloy entry level. It's such a fun bike to rip around and it climbs well! I definitely agree with adding a bigger spacer. It comes with a .2 spacer and I've added a .4 spacer and it feels a lot better. I've just stayed at 64.5deg
well i hope it climbs well, at that price i would not have low expectations, its 2023 and the bikes have been looking the same since 2017-2018. All they have been doing is changing a bit of geometry and paint colours... MTB world needs to add some spice to their ridiculous price tags because its going to go back to what it was before covid hit. Well its already well on its way there.
I have the Evo alloy comp. It‘s such a fun bike. The perfect bike if you wanna have one bike for everything. The only thing I don’t like on this bike is the Nx derailleur, it’s really loud.
specialized kinda reminds me of Porsche- stubbornly stuck to their system of suspension and fiddled with it untill its perfect. Now nobody really thinks of it, but its a great system.
tips: try not put another sequence-sence "enough talk lets talk about" then next camera with the invite "ok lets talk about" for video editing, try not put 2 time in a row "lets talk about talking about" "ok lets talk about" just a 2 second redundancy
I’m picking up my 2022 Comp Carbon (but with a Lyrik Ultimate, Code RSCs and carbon Traverse wheels) on Monday. Can. Not. Wait! Have loved my 2019 Stumpy Expert and this just feels like the perfect next bike…
I've been thinking of getting a 22' Comp Carbon. How do you like it so far? My LBS have it in a S4 and S5 and I'm 6'2" so I was wondering what size would be good for me.
@@norcalchrismeister did you pull the trigger on that purchase? If you did what's your verdict? I'm also 6ft2 and currently have a 2012 alloy Stumpy HT Evo, now I'm beginning to want a full Susser aswell, and I'm wondering S4 or S5. I do live near a specialized concept store so I may try and see if they have some I can test for fit and feel.
The suspension bits are the redeeming part on this bike so maybe that's why it has GX components. The suspension itself is worth $2400. I want this suspension on my Trek EX.
Not necessarily, with the efficiency they're able to isolate more variables making it more consistent. With a timed climb there is a greater change for rider error (line choice, fatigue, power etc...).
That's what I would like to know. With all that travel it's going to struggle a little if not more going uphill. Downhill travel bikes are really mainly good at going downhill. 160/150 is enduro numbers. This bike is way to much travel for where I live (Texas). Glad the sale hit right after I got my Trek Fuel EX 8 gen 6 (150/140). Even my Trek is pushing it with the travel for where I live.
so glad they made an alloy version of the EVO. I'm going to buy this frame to upgrade my 2019 standard Stumpy.... I'm also wrapping it in just about any other color.
to me the aluminum frame is really attractive, there is something more down to earth than Carbone although my current bike is made of Carbone,,, at least it can be entirely recycled over and over...
Specialized get a lot of shit from the ‘cool’ kids who think they’re edgy and “don’t do mainstream”, but they are absolutely killing it at the moment; they have a bike in every category that is class leading or very close to it. Their S Works builds are still ridiculously priced but everything else is not a million miles away and no worse than many others. 👏🏻
When I heard "Horst Link" I must admit I was a little surprised. Although it's functional and proven, they've been using the same name for 20 years. Is that the pinnacle of rear suspension design? It may be (I admit to not have been following their evolution recently), but the name wouldn't indicate it. Don't mean to be petty, but in today's market, being on the cutting edge is important.
@@dudeonbike800 Most suspension systems have been around for ages, they have just been refined over the years. It’s very rare that a completely new suspension concept comes along and even then they tend to be simply ‘different’ rather than better. Having a Horst link hasn’t held the bike back, but they are not afraid to drop it where it makes sense to (like the non-Evo Stumpy).
And in fact the same carbon frame on the expert and pro as the s works model. I went with the expert evo and boy.... this bike rips. From flatland all the way up to alpine terrain.
Agree with the video commentators, great analysis. I bought the same model as tested (Evo, Elite, Alloy) in part, based on their assessment. Almost 3 months into bike ownership and I’ve gone back to re-listen and contrast my own experiences. I found the comments spot on and love this bike. The technology and performance is far, far superior to my great at one time but aged 2007 Cannondale Prophet. Making a financial commitment like this is a big one but I’m finally glad I did. I’m enjoying the sport in a way that was simply unattainable with my previous ‘rig’ and riding with the confidence and inspiration I haven’t had in serval years.
I bought this frame and put all Enduro components on it and it is a super sick bike… I feel like this is specialized’s “quiver killer”. Don’t be afraid to change your GEO often, in 15 minutes with a torq wrench I can go from the setup for a pedaly 20 mile epic, hit jumps, race enduro, or go slack the shit out of it and throwing a 27.5 rear wheel on it for bike park laps!! My only issue is when I take larger hits, big high speed drops, it eats through the travel somewhat quickly, but I think more VOL spacers will fix that nicely. My Build: Factory 38 Code RSCs Stand EX3 wheels Big Betty + Cush core front and back Full GX Drivetrain Oneup 180 dropper Other choice components
Just picked up the S Works Evo frame today for $2500. This bike wasn't even on my radar due to cost previously, but it's everything I wanted. In a size 5 (I'm 6'1" with a good wingspan) I plan to run it in the low/long setting.
Bought the frameset, hunt wheels, GX drivetrain, one up dropper (insertion depth very short even on S4), G2 brakes. Had a 160 lyrik to swap over. No other frameset comes close to the value of this one. Also come with full headset, not just the angle cups, and seat post shim. You can build a dialed bike when the frame + shock only costs 1900
All these people calling this an all mountain bike even though it has enduro travel. Would like to see some times comparing it to other all mountain bikes. I bet that extra travel they gave it this generation is going to take away from its ability to go up hill. Really wish people would review and sell this bike properly, its starting to get misleading how this bike is being pushed.
I had a Pro model S5 and it weighed 31.5 pounds with cushcore, pedals. I broke a seatstay and I am waiting on the replacement, but I got a Alloy S4 to ride in the meantime with the Pro parts and it weighs 34.25.
I have a 2020 alloy frame stroked up to 160/160 with a 210x55 Float X and cascade link. I run it in high setting since I live in Maryland and there’s not much super steep stuff. The older frames are more slender and look better without the swat box imo
YT Jeffsey, Santa Cruz Bronson, Canyon Spectral, Specialized Stumpjumper Evo, Yeti Sb 150, Commencal Meta are all trail bikes people actually buy and ride.
After watching this review I went and pulled the trigger on the alloy frame and will be building it up with 160 lyrik and parts from my old bike. Really excited to get it going and hit the trails. Great video guys! Keep up the good work!
Im thinking of purchasing the evo elite alloy version August 2023 for $4200 ,my concern is whats in store for the 2024 models . Am i better off wailing ?
God I kept watching the video just to stare at the girl! What a pretty smile, and those eyes!! OMG. Gorgeous girl guys! good job! (and the rest of the video was nice too! lol )
It has become my dream bike and I have a Hightower 20'!!! For me, the adjustable geo is a seller point, also some of the key specs like the One-up dropper and lastly the price his really moderate!!
I am currently waiting for mine(base model) to arrive at my local bikeshop Now i know i made a good decision but also now i can't wait for it to show up even tough it is skiing season in Austria
I ordered the Comp Alloy and the next day I changed my mind and I ordered the Stumpjumper EVO Comp Alloy. 850€ more... I use a Trek DS3, light mountain bike, and i never bought it that kind of mtb (trail/enduro) But, as I readed on the one of the best bikes website, no matter the extra money, I must have that one (the Evo). 🤷♂️ Snob, capitalism, expert journalist advice, I don't know, but since frebuary I will I have a stumpjumper EVO Comp Alloy 23 S4 satin black
I wish more manufacturers would do alloy versions and make that the entry level to the line up. Personally, I would mullet it right away and slacken it out.
I completely agree, and after a few years of brand seeming to completely forget about alloy, it's awesome to see again; if the current trends are too be believed, every new Canyon and Transition will be offered in both alloy and carbon going forward. One new trend I'm loving is brands like Specialized and Transition offering not only base model alloy builds, but also high end alloy builds (like this one), for people that still want high specs, but either don't see the need to spend an extra grand on carbon, or want to avoid carbon for environmental reasons.
Agreed 100%. The last thing I’m thinking about when descending rough technical terrain is “gee, I’m sure glad I bought a carbon frame” as I’m much more focused on picking the best line, braking, looking ahead, etc… As long as the frame is stiff enough, and the shock, fork and tires all do their job, it does not matter at all the material of the frame.
@@andyjonathan2486 I like a bit of carbon, but I absolutely agree that it’s the last thing I’d be thinking about when bombing down hill! Great to see manufacturers offering proper alloy builds and not just making them the de facto “cheap” version.
When I ordered my frame I immediately ordered the mullet link as well. Coming from a Status I've grown really fond of the mullet setup and how it feels on the trail compared to a true 29er.
Imagine if they knew that for black friday 2023 the bike is at 3500 usd, crazy crazyyyy. Same model (alloy elite) The base model is at the same price so far, no discount.
I'd like to see a side by side comparison of The Evo Alloy with the Evo Comp Alloy. The comp alloy comes in 2k cheaper, but on the sheet looks the same....
GuyKesTV has a video where he back to back rides carbon and alloy. I think the alloy is comp but the carbon might be pro. Can't remember. It's interesting though
Lol well slow down this is a 6k+ bike and it has a GX drivetrain lol. The suspension kind of makes up for it. Still should have been an X01 drivetrain for that price.
As a stumpy owner I’ve been waiting for the EVO review since the fall field test was announced. What a pitty I have to get that frame to make a custom build now 😅😂
Great bike , rides smooth th-cam.com/users/postUgkxHL1v1R3NE5x4KiYfyt8dnQmyNYz7qi5L I added a bigger spring loaded seat to it . Takes a bit of adjusting cables to get brakes and shifting to perfect . I've owned quite a few bikes in the past that were absolutely uncomfortable to ride and they always ended up as garage wall decor . I'm not seeing that with this one. It's pretty light I've only ridden it a few miles but I like it . As for the pedals falling off in the other reviews , the pedal arms are aluminum along with the pedal studs look to be also . I would not overtighten them. I can see it would be very easy to overtighten them and strip the threads right off . All in all I think it's pretty good quality besides the aluminum pedal thing
I want the fork and shock from this on my Trek EX 8 gen 6. Can't afford it right now though. This stumpjumper is on sale right now for $4700 but it is over $6k normally. Great bike for the price if you can get it on sale. Travel though is getting a little close to Enduro with 150 rear and 160 front. If the fork was 150 front this would be perfect for me since I prefer an all around bike. This bike looks like its supposed to fit between an all around trail bike and an Enduro bike which is probably a good thing for all those jumpy ridders. This bike will give you a hard workout going up because of the travel. Not a good XC bike in anyway for sure, but thats the purpose of the bike.
I'm actually considering ending my 27 year hardtail streak for this bike. I'm currently riding a large Fuse, and I love it. My fuse has a 150mm Zeb ultimate and full SLX/XT on it with the stock wheelset. I was going to just buy the frame, and possibly pick up wheels later, since that's what the budget allows. Am I nuts to think I can go from a hardtail to 150mm travel? My last full squish bike was a 96 Zaskar. It was bad enough to make me not want to ever ride a full squish again. Folks have told me to rent a bike to see if I like it, but I won't know in a day. I'm a fairly aggressive rider on the Fuse, and spend a lot of time tailgating full squish bikes down most of the trails around WNC. I've been threatening to do this for a year now. Just not sure what I'm going to get out of rear suspension that I don't currently get out of an aggressive hardtail.
I've stayed away from Specialized because of the LBS arrogance, and "what a 12k bike is out of your budget?", and then being dismissed. I recently had to get my bike in for a pre-trail ride and they were the only ones that had an opening. There was all new people and the service could not have been better. This experience made a huge difference in how I felt about Specialized.
Potentially stupid question: so is the 2022 stumpjumper comp alloy the first alloy stumpy to have the adjustable head angle? Does the 2021 version have it?
I looked at one today S4 size alloy version so surprised the Weight of the bike .. can’t notice it ..... I rather have alloy over carbon seen them Break too much ..
Not even the same class bike as the rest of the pack. Your comparing a bike that can go Enduro to a bunch of XC bikes with 10mm more travel "trail bikes".
I just bought the carbon version of this bike......never had a carbon bike. Would you recommend a specific frame protection to put on.......ride wrap, all mountain style, or invis? I just want the strongest to give my investment the best protection. Thanks and great reviews!
you see, the nx components are really good these days. but those are also consumable parts that last two seasons depending on how you ride and then get renewed anyway. I guess it does not make sense to talk weight here. nx cranksets for example are like 700g. XO is 200 grams lighter yeah, but also 250+ more expensive. A hope crankset with chainring is around 650g. The only thing ppl sould be aware of is that if they wanna uprgade the cassette or the hub, they might need to spend a bit more at once to change from standard spline to xd or whatever.
Just wish they’d realize that the rider group they designed the S6 sizes come with 95kg plus body weight and incorporate that into another shock leverage in the big boi size. It’s still a pass for me - but having them build another linkage S1 gives me hope they understood the issue that not everyone out there is 75kg.
It's clearly a hell of a bike and think because of that and that I don't own one I just want to hate on it but don't know what to point out, thanks Pinkbike for not giving me anything bad to say
Are we all brainwashed with bike prices that $6K bike reviews uses words like “entry level” and “budget” ? I have a 21 stumpy comp carbon and a 22 salsa beargrease carbon fatty… bought both new… so I can justify spending some cash if you’re seekers about biking but… sheesh. Wouldn’t use those words. But I am picking my up stumpy evo alloy elite this week ; )
Fantastic review guys. Specialized has really been knocking it out of the park lately.
Built up my Cotic BFE Max last winter, hardtail party recommended!! Working on building up my Evo alloy this winter. To many great bikes and not enough time…..
@hardtail party Hey Steve have you made it public knowledge what FS bike you got recently? I think it's a specialized.. I've been curious what model you chose but wasn't sure if you hadn't said anything about it on purpose or if I just missed it.
@@vindeta360 no, i haven't told yet. :)
@@hardtailparty I’m guessing it’s this, the Specialized Stumpjumper Evo. Btw I got my first bike, a Fuse Comp 21 recently trying to get into mountain biking, thanks for that review :)
@@hardtailparty do tell!!!
My 35 year "hardtail party" finally ended in May when I joined the current millennium of full suspension design with an Ibis Ripley. LOVING it!
I have a Evo carbon that I built up and it's the dreamiest (Sam Pilgrim voice) bike I've ridden. It climbs so well and is a riot going down. I don't see me needing a new bike for a long time, especially since the evo has such modern geo.
I just bought this frameset and swapped over my Onyx wheelset and Bomber forks... this thing is amazing! It feels like an enduro bike that climbs as good as it descends!
This definitely made me feel good about my purchase! Picked up the base model two weeks ago as my first full suspension and I'm loving this bike. I agree with Kaz on the need for a larger volume spacer in the rear for big hits and flow trail. The Float X comes with a .2" spacer in it stock on this bike.
Swap out that rear hub asap.
@@ozzmundo1 Although I do agree that it isn't the best hub it still works and theres no need to replace it unless it breaks. No need to make someone feel bad about their purchase.
@@ozzmundo1 I'll more than likely swap it when and if breaks, get the mullet link, and get a new 27.5 wheel altogether instead of the 29.
sell it. these is the most unrealiable bike on the market. hope you shop is near your house and you have no problem waiting for motors.
@@adamcline121 hubs is the least of his problems. this bike suddenly brakes rear linkage of rear shock. Hope that doesnt happen to you at a remote place like me or imagine at high speeds lOL
guaranteed hospital roadtrip
Got the base model last month. 100% agree with it being probably the best value at that price point. Nothing that needs to be upgraded right away, and will probably just upgrade as components wear out!
sorry, but getting a NX for that price is just laughable
@@florianspatz7964 thanks for your personal opinion. Mine is people who nitpick every little thing is laughable. Plenty of bikes at the same price point come with NX, especially with the current market. The suspension spec is better than most sub 4k nowadays, which does not get replaced as often as the drivetrain. To each their own, I guess. Enjoy the trails bud
@@FlippinEli yeah you’re right, in the end it’s just about having fun, so enjoy the trails!
I bought the Evo alloy entry level. It's such a fun bike to rip around and it climbs well! I definitely agree with adding a bigger spacer. It comes with a .2 spacer and I've added a .4 spacer and it feels a lot better. I've just stayed at 64.5deg
I got the same bike as you ordered it a bit ago and it's coming January 3rd can't wait all I hear is good things. Can't wait to rip on it
well i hope it climbs well, at that price i would not have low expectations, its 2023 and the bikes have been looking the same since 2017-2018. All they have been doing is changing a bit of geometry and paint colours... MTB world needs to add some spice to their ridiculous price tags because its going to go back to what it was before covid hit. Well its already well on its way there.
I have the Evo alloy comp. It‘s such a fun bike. The perfect bike if you wanna have one bike for everything. The only thing I don’t like on this bike is the Nx derailleur, it’s really loud.
specialized kinda reminds me of Porsche- stubbornly stuck to their system of suspension and fiddled with it untill its perfect. Now nobody really thinks of it, but its a great system.
The stumpjumper evo elite alloy is on sale for nearly the price of this bike.
I have a 2016 Stumpy. I wish I had this one.
tips: try not put another sequence-sence "enough talk lets talk about" then next camera with the invite "ok lets talk about"
for video editing, try not put 2 time in a row "lets talk about talking about" "ok lets talk about"
just a 2 second redundancy
I’m picking up my 2022 Comp Carbon (but with a Lyrik Ultimate, Code RSCs and carbon Traverse wheels) on Monday. Can. Not. Wait! Have loved my 2019 Stumpy Expert and this just feels like the perfect next bike…
I've been thinking of getting a 22' Comp Carbon. How do you like it so far? My LBS have it in a S4 and S5 and I'm 6'2" so I was wondering what size would be good for me.
@@norcalchrismeister did you pull the trigger on that purchase?
If you did what's your verdict?
I'm also 6ft2 and currently have a 2012 alloy Stumpy HT Evo, now I'm beginning to want a full Susser aswell, and I'm wondering S4 or S5.
I do live near a specialized concept store so I may try and see if they have some I can test for fit and feel.
@@bigt43 No, I got a 22' Santa Cruz Tallboy instead
Thanks for your excellent rewiew. C' you telle me the size of Alicia bike. Please
Thanks
🔥🔥🔥
What tires were used for test
got the new 2022 Evo Pro and man does it rip
Want.. much want.
6000€ for an alloy bike that has GX components on it.
I would defenitly not call this a cheap bike.
But top-end suspension bits. Drive train is a consumable part, just swap in the X01 bits as the GX ones wear out.
The suspension bits are the redeeming part on this bike so maybe that's why it has GX components. The suspension itself is worth $2400. I want this suspension on my Trek EX.
What word does he refer to at 14:33?
Quiver-killer
why afraid to call it enduro bike? would you clasify this stumpy as an enduro bike if it has 10mm more travel? (not trolling, just being curoius :))
Overall, the component choices are more trail orientated. To a lesser extent, the frame design is also more trail focused
The efficiency test is pretty useless... I'd much rather have a timed uphill on a singletrack climb. That would be much more telling.
Not necessarily, with the efficiency they're able to isolate more variables making it more consistent. With a timed climb there is a greater change for rider error (line choice, fatigue, power etc...).
@@adamcline121 It's obviously broken
That's what I would like to know. With all that travel it's going to struggle a little if not more going uphill. Downhill travel bikes are really mainly good at going downhill. 160/150 is enduro numbers. This bike is way to much travel for where I live (Texas). Glad the sale hit right after I got my Trek Fuel EX 8 gen 6 (150/140). Even my Trek is pushing it with the travel for where I live.
12:19 She on point. These aren’t flyweight XC bikes, and longer dropper posts just makes sense for riding rough chunky terrain with confidence.
so glad they made an alloy version of the EVO. I'm going to buy this frame to upgrade my 2019 standard Stumpy.... I'm also wrapping it in just about any other color.
Yeah it’s one hideous colour scheme 😂
to me the aluminum frame is really attractive, there is something more down to earth than Carbone although my current bike is made of Carbone,,, at least it can be entirely recycled over and over...
Specialized get a lot of shit from the ‘cool’ kids who think they’re edgy and “don’t do mainstream”, but they are absolutely killing it at the moment; they have a bike in every category that is class leading or very close to it.
Their S Works builds are still ridiculously priced but everything else is not a million miles away and no worse than many others. 👏🏻
When I heard "Horst Link" I must admit I was a little surprised. Although it's functional and proven, they've been using the same name for 20 years. Is that the pinnacle of rear suspension design? It may be (I admit to not have been following their evolution recently), but the name wouldn't indicate it. Don't mean to be petty, but in today's market, being on the cutting edge is important.
@@dudeonbike800 Most suspension systems have been around for ages, they have just been refined over the years. It’s very rare that a completely new suspension concept comes along and even then they tend to be simply ‘different’ rather than better.
Having a Horst link hasn’t held the bike back, but they are not afraid to drop it where it makes sense to (like the non-Evo Stumpy).
And in fact the same carbon frame on the expert and pro as the s works model. I went with the expert evo and boy.... this bike rips. From flatland all the way up to alpine terrain.
Agree with the video commentators, great analysis. I bought the same model as tested (Evo, Elite, Alloy) in part, based on their assessment. Almost 3 months into bike ownership and I’ve gone back to re-listen and contrast my own experiences. I found the comments spot on and love this bike. The technology and performance is far, far superior to my great at one time but aged 2007 Cannondale Prophet. Making a financial commitment like this is a big one but I’m finally glad I did. I’m enjoying the sport in a way that was simply unattainable with my previous ‘rig’ and riding with the confidence and inspiration I haven’t had in serval years.
Really enjoying this whole Fall field test.
I bought this frame and put all Enduro components on it and it is a super sick bike… I feel like this is specialized’s “quiver killer”. Don’t be afraid to change your GEO often, in 15 minutes with a torq wrench I can go from the setup for a pedaly 20 mile epic, hit jumps, race enduro, or go slack the shit out of it and throwing a 27.5 rear wheel on it for bike park laps!! My only issue is when I take larger hits, big high speed drops, it eats through the travel somewhat quickly, but I think more VOL spacers will fix that nicely.
My Build:
Factory 38
Code RSCs
Stand EX3 wheels
Big Betty + Cush core front and back
Full GX Drivetrain
Oneup 180 dropper
Other choice components
Bought a polygon, hate it, but I love all the components so I bought the evo alloy frame and swapping over parts.
Just picked up the S Works Evo frame today for $2500. This bike wasn't even on my radar due to cost previously, but it's everything I wanted. In a size 5 (I'm 6'1" with a good wingspan) I plan to run it in the low/long setting.
Alicia is so sweet, very good addition to the team.
Simp alert?
@@TrIpMo1981 yessss you got it.
I’d love to see the you guys compare bikes of last year with current bikes of the year ! ( Norco optic vs 2022 trail bike winner)
Bought the frameset, hunt wheels, GX drivetrain, one up dropper (insertion depth very short even on S4), G2 brakes. Had a 160 lyrik to swap over. No other frameset comes close to the value of this one. Also come with full headset, not just the angle cups, and seat post shim. You can build a dialed bike when the frame + shock only costs 1900
Kazimer is a textbook cat enjoyer
I'm enjoying the video. It's so nice. Thank you.👍
All these people calling this an all mountain bike even though it has enduro travel. Would like to see some times comparing it to other all mountain bikes. I bet that extra travel they gave it this generation is going to take away from its ability to go up hill. Really wish people would review and sell this bike properly, its starting to get misleading how this bike is being pushed.
The bike is cool and all three of you look related 🤔
I had a Pro model S5 and it weighed 31.5 pounds with cushcore, pedals. I broke a seatstay and I am waiting on the replacement, but I got a Alloy S4 to ride in the meantime with the Pro parts and it weighs 34.25.
I have a 2020 alloy frame stroked up to 160/160 with a 210x55 Float X and cascade link. I run it in high setting since I live in Maryland and there’s not much super steep stuff. The older frames are more slender and look better without the swat box imo
Same here but mullet set up. Sick set up! 🤘🏼🤘🏼
YT Jeffsey, Santa Cruz Bronson, Canyon Spectral, Specialized Stumpjumper Evo, Yeti Sb 150, Commencal Meta are all trail bikes people actually buy and ride.
After watching this review I went and pulled the trigger on the alloy frame and will be building it up with 160 lyrik and parts from my old bike. Really excited to get it going and hit the trails. Great video guys! Keep up the good work!
Were you able to build it with the 160 Lyrik? If so what’s the approx weight? I’m thinking of building one too
Just got the comp model for my son. What an amazing ride!
Im thinking of purchasing the evo elite alloy version August 2023 for $4200 ,my concern is whats in store for the 2024 models . Am i better off wailing ?
Please hire a pro sound engineer... Nice review!
I think not recording in a wooden hut against wooden doors would already help a ton.
God I kept watching the video just to stare at the girl! What a pretty smile, and those eyes!! OMG. Gorgeous girl guys! good job! (and the rest of the video was nice too! lol )
How do any of these bikes ride on flat terrain? Painful? Most of us do not live on top of a 15,000 foot mountain!!
Review the 2022 Rocky mountain Slayer
Just picked up an SJ Evo alloy LTD with AXS for 3500, what a deal.
I bought carbon evo and I like the versatility. Trails, single track, I don’t have any complaints. It was expensive
It's reminds me of that one time at band camp.
It's called an "All-Mountain" bike or "Up-Country" :-)
thankfully the stumpy evo is the more aggressive and down hill oriented version of a trail bike. :D
The Evo is a downhill bike with all that travel. It's no longer a trail bike or all mountain bike.
@@michaelmichaelagnew8503 wrong
It has become my dream bike and I have a Hightower 20'!!! For me, the adjustable geo is a seller point, also some of the key specs like the One-up dropper and lastly the price his really moderate!!
I would love the see a review of the ride with the 27.5” rear installed. Might provide some more snap.
This looks cool, I am waiting for my propain tyee✌️😉
We finally get a good light weight alloy mtb.
Same price as carbon………
not with this level suspension, the pro is 8600
I am currently waiting for mine(base model) to arrive at my local bikeshop
Now i know i made a good decision but also now i can't wait for it to show up even tough it is skiing season in Austria
A trail bike is 130-140mm. All mountain is 140-150. Enduro is 150-170. Downhill is 170+
Exactly though I'd say XC bikes do go up into the 130 range. The Ev0 now is a downhill/Endro (same thing) bike.
I ordered the Comp Alloy and the next day I changed my mind and I ordered the Stumpjumper EVO Comp Alloy. 850€ more...
I use a Trek DS3, light mountain bike, and i never bought it that kind of mtb (trail/enduro)
But, as I readed on the one of the best bikes website, no matter the extra money, I must have that one (the Evo).
🤷♂️ Snob, capitalism, expert journalist advice, I don't know, but since frebuary I will I have a stumpjumper EVO Comp Alloy 23 S4 satin black
I wish more manufacturers would do alloy versions and make that the entry level to the line up. Personally, I would mullet it right away and slacken it out.
I completely agree, and after a few years of brand seeming to completely forget about alloy, it's awesome to see again; if the current trends are too be believed, every new Canyon and Transition will be offered in both alloy and carbon going forward.
One new trend I'm loving is brands like Specialized and Transition offering not only base model alloy builds, but also high end alloy builds (like this one), for people that still want high specs, but either don't see the need to spend an extra grand on carbon, or want to avoid carbon for environmental reasons.
I’m really happy with my Rocky Altitude A70! Aluminum frame with a full XT / Fox factory build out of the box.
Agreed 100%. The last thing I’m thinking about when descending rough technical terrain is “gee, I’m sure glad I bought a carbon frame” as I’m much more focused on picking the best line, braking, looking ahead, etc…
As long as the frame is stiff enough, and the shock, fork and tires all do their job, it does not matter at all the material of the frame.
@@andyjonathan2486 I like a bit of carbon, but I absolutely agree that it’s the last thing I’d be thinking about when bombing down hill! Great to see manufacturers offering proper alloy builds and not just making them the de facto “cheap” version.
When I ordered my frame I immediately ordered the mullet link as well. Coming from a Status I've grown really fond of the mullet setup and how it feels on the trail compared to a true 29er.
Imagine if they knew that for black friday 2023 the bike is at 3500 usd, crazy crazyyyy. Same model (alloy elite)
The base model is at the same price so far, no discount.
Kaz hates dogs!? Wtf!
I'd like to see a side by side comparison of The Evo Alloy with the Evo Comp Alloy. The comp alloy comes in 2k cheaper, but on the sheet looks the same....
GuyKesTV has a video where he back to back rides carbon and alloy. I think the alloy is comp but the carbon might be pro. Can't remember. It's interesting though
Surprised Specialized didn't equip the bike with a SX or NX mech.
Ha, the comp model has NX. I wish there was a model in between. And actually in stock.
@@dairymilk5679 Why SX or NX mechs are even being made? These mechs DO NOT do their jobs. They are a complete waste or resources.
Lol well slow down this is a 6k+ bike and it has a GX drivetrain lol. The suspension kind of makes up for it. Still should have been an X01 drivetrain for that price.
Now I gotta sell my 2021 Commencal Meta HT AM Esse. so I can get this! Thanks for shoving me over the edge. :rofl:
Woah woah pump the brakes, don’t ever sell the Meta HT
As a stumpy owner I’ve been waiting for the EVO review since the fall field test was announced. What a pitty I have to get that frame to make a custom build now 😅😂
Great bike , rides smooth th-cam.com/users/postUgkxHL1v1R3NE5x4KiYfyt8dnQmyNYz7qi5L I added a bigger spring loaded seat to it . Takes a bit of adjusting cables to get brakes and shifting to perfect . I've owned quite a few bikes in the past that were absolutely uncomfortable to ride and they always ended up as garage wall decor . I'm not seeing that with this one. It's pretty light I've only ridden it a few miles but I like it . As for the pedals falling off in the other reviews , the pedal arms are aluminum along with the pedal studs look to be also . I would not overtighten them. I can see it would be very easy to overtighten them and strip the threads right off . All in all I think it's pretty good quality besides the aluminum pedal thing
I want the fork and shock from this on my Trek EX 8 gen 6. Can't afford it right now though. This stumpjumper is on sale right now for $4700 but it is over $6k normally. Great bike for the price if you can get it on sale. Travel though is getting a little close to Enduro with 150 rear and 160 front. If the fork was 150 front this would be perfect for me since I prefer an all around bike. This bike looks like its supposed to fit between an all around trail bike and an Enduro bike which is probably a good thing for all those jumpy ridders. This bike will give you a hard workout going up because of the travel. Not a good XC bike in anyway for sure, but thats the purpose of the bike.
That's some amazing technology and it's a beautiful bike. I'd love to have a go on that one.
I'm actually considering ending my 27 year hardtail streak for this bike. I'm currently riding a large Fuse, and I love it. My fuse has a 150mm Zeb ultimate and full SLX/XT on it with the stock wheelset. I was going to just buy the frame, and possibly pick up wheels later, since that's what the budget allows. Am I nuts to think I can go from a hardtail to 150mm travel? My last full squish bike was a 96 Zaskar. It was bad enough to make me not want to ever ride a full squish again. Folks have told me to rent a bike to see if I like it, but I won't know in a day. I'm a fairly aggressive rider on the Fuse, and spend a lot of time tailgating full squish bikes down most of the trails around WNC. I've been threatening to do this for a year now. Just not sure what I'm going to get out of rear suspension that I don't currently get out of an aggressive hardtail.
I've stayed away from Specialized because of the LBS arrogance, and "what a 12k bike is out of your budget?", and then being dismissed.
I recently had to get my bike in for a pre-trail ride and they were the only ones that had an opening. There was all new people and the service could not have been better. This experience made a huge difference in how I felt about Specialized.
Potentially stupid question: so is the 2022 stumpjumper comp alloy the first alloy stumpy to have the adjustable head angle? Does the 2021 version have it?
I looked at one today S4 size alloy version so surprised the Weight of the bike .. can’t notice it ..... I rather have alloy over carbon seen them Break too much ..
Not even the same class bike as the rest of the pack. Your comparing a bike that can go Enduro to a bunch of XC bikes with 10mm more travel "trail bikes".
Why do they put roval wheels on all there bikes
in-house brand
I bet you guys can't say you own a 99 spealized stumpjumper Comp world championship lg
I like the bike, but what other bike could compete with the $5600 GX version for less money?
is it just me that thinks specialized is anything but value for money? there are so many better speced and competitively priced options
I just bought the carbon version of this bike......never had a carbon bike. Would you recommend a specific frame protection to put on.......ride wrap, all mountain style, or invis? I just want the strongest to give my investment the best protection. Thanks and great reviews!
I wonder if that snap Alicia referred to would be better with a 27.5 rear wheel and the mullet link. I bet it would
If you the german version I have to take a look at the Liteville 301 MK 15.3
The sound person needs more experience. Not good sound quality!
Which water bottle cage do u use ? Sick videos dude!!!❤
Same issue as your last video, EQ the bass down on the vocal mic.
Who is Alicia, she looks so familiar like I’ve seen her in a movie.
All good and well, but €4000,- for the cheapest version (with shitty NX components) is not acceptable.
you see, the nx components are really good these days. but those are also consumable parts that last two seasons depending on how you ride and then get renewed anyway. I guess it does not make sense to talk weight here. nx cranksets for example are like 700g. XO is 200 grams lighter yeah, but also 250+ more expensive. A hope crankset with chainring is around 650g. The only thing ppl sould be aware of is that if they wanna uprgade the cassette or the hub, they might need to spend a bit more at once to change from standard spline to xd or whatever.
Spectral is next?
Either the SCOR or RAW.
Just wish they’d realize that the rider group they designed the S6 sizes come with 95kg plus body weight and incorporate that into another shock leverage in the big boi size. It’s still a pass for me - but having them build another linkage S1 gives me hope they understood the issue that not everyone out there is 75kg.
Kaz? U can only choose one. Stumpy evo alloy, carbon or meta tr?
This or the Ibis ripmo af? Theyre both in the same price range
How would you say this bike compares to the Commencal Meta TR?
It's clearly a hell of a bike and think because of that and that I don't own one I just want to hate on it but don't know what to point out, thanks Pinkbike for not giving me anything bad to say
Anyone on an S1 bump their travel up to 160mm?
Just finished reading a pinkbike article about how pointless flipchips are
$600 increase just in 9 months.
Are we all brainwashed with bike prices that $6K bike reviews uses words like “entry level” and “budget” ?
I have a 21 stumpy comp carbon and a 22 salsa beargrease carbon fatty… bought both new… so I can justify spending some cash if you’re seekers about biking but… sheesh. Wouldn’t use those words.
But I am picking my up stumpy evo alloy elite this week ; )
Interesting. 5 lb more and you get a motor with the same geo (Turbo Levo SL). (But I should also say, prob $3k more!)
Sram Codes a work-horse component? Damn!
I am going to go for a process 2023.
14:53, anyone know what goggles those are? 🧐
Anyone remember when mountain bikes were cool?
Aluminum enduro next?