Is 8GB VRAM Enough for a Gaming Laptop? (8GB vs 16GB)

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  • @JarrodsTech
    @JarrodsTech  2 หลายเดือนก่อน +12

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    • @typerightseesight
      @typerightseesight 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      8 feels like plenty to me but ive not had more.

    • @gervin3447
      @gervin3447 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Kingston KVR32S22S8/16 16gb 1x16 3200mhz
      Teamgroup DDR4 RAM Elite 16GB 3200Mhz
      Crucial 16GB DDR4-3200MHz CL22
      Which ram is better?
      Planning to upgrade my HP PAVILION 15

    • @Hbha-x9l
      @Hbha-x9l 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Thank you. Please would you make a video for the best laptop for architect in 2024 .

  • @tbe1872
    @tbe1872 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +733

    Human eye can only see 4 GB of VRAM.

    • @411sponge72
      @411sponge72 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

      🤓😁

    • @Proximity94
      @Proximity94 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      lele

    • @isaacsanchez8658
      @isaacsanchez8658 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Exactly.

    • @karikaru
      @karikaru 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Lol

    • @Jakiyyyyy
      @Jakiyyyyy 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

      And 128-bit of memory bus. 🤓

  • @dtymnn
    @dtymnn 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +723

    Me with 4gb in 2024 ...

    • @firstname4337
      @firstname4337 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +37

      yeah, still running a 1050ti on my lenovo y530

    • @you-5-iver804
      @you-5-iver804 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

      I have 4 too lol on a Quadro P2000 Laptop lmao

    • @dhirajdeore434
      @dhirajdeore434 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +72

      Same here rtx 3050 laptop

    • @PFCobsessed
      @PFCobsessed 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    • @mutahairsajid2327
      @mutahairsajid2327 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@dhirajdeore434 us

  • @zulfika_
    @zulfika_ 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +378

    Developers have become too reliant on DLSS and neglect optimization because it requires longer development time, which publishers don't want. That's one of the reasons why modern games now demand excessive amounts of VRAM.

    • @sc_3433
      @sc_3433 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +12

      I think its about the current gen consoles, they have 16gb of memory

    • @notchipotle
      @notchipotle 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +61

      keep blaming the developer lol nvidia will always give us minimum amount of VRAM because of people like you

    • @AbyCarl-my8gq
      @AbyCarl-my8gq 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +19

      ​@@sc_3433That 16 Gig is all the memory available. Contrast with PCs that have GPU memory and RAM on top of that. The games are just not optimised on PC

    • @420247paul
      @420247paul 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      shut up, you do not understand game development enough to make such statements you just sound entitled

    • @HunterTracks
      @HunterTracks 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +18

      VRAM usage isn't primarily reliant on resolution, it's almost entirely dependent on texture complexity. Since the latest console gen has effectively around 12 GB of VRAM, devs essentially treat that as the baseline in a lot of cases, and just don't generate lower quality texture maps.

  • @kergeiser
    @kergeiser 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +179

    mean while me with an rtx 3050 4gb vram card in my laptop- "this will work just fine"

    • @RoyalGun-9mm
      @RoyalGun-9mm 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +12

      "Just lower the graphics with DLSS, and it will work fine." We tell ourselves.

    • @DragonOfTheMortalKombat
      @DragonOfTheMortalKombat 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      @@RoyalGun-9mm it did until now but games like space marine 2 are now refusing to load objects unless VRAM is increased.

    • @jishnujayan7324
      @jishnujayan7324 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      ​@@DragonOfTheMortalKombatyea it sucks,i bought it on day one but refunded it due to that. Maybe buy it one day when i upgrade it. Sm2 looks garbage in low settings.

    • @cystol
      @cystol 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      I will tell you a tale that may make you cry:
      Meanwhile me with gtx1650 mobile playing all the new games at exactly 27 fps

    • @clashcon11
      @clashcon11 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Imagine it's the same as my GTX 1650 Laptop. LOL

  • @sixsixten
    @sixsixten 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +20

    Vram limitation is a part of planned obsolescence, that's why even though adding more vram is actually cheap, they wont do it.

  • @sajidhasnain9756
    @sajidhasnain9756 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +91

    I am with rtx 4050 6gb laptop. Have to stick with it for next 6 yrs (hope it lasts)

    • @kenshisanki
      @kenshisanki 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Me too bro

    • @ys_gamer3194
      @ys_gamer3194 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +15

      By then it will probably be in the same class as a 1050 today, 2gigs low performance,you can get a decent experience out of it depending on your choice of games

    • @KevinEnjoyer
      @KevinEnjoyer 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +17

      It won't last. But It'll suffice for now.

    • @gorillagroddgaming
      @gorillagroddgaming 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      It will last 1 or 2 years tbh. Never buy low end hardware.

    • @ABCD-rn6tk
      @ABCD-rn6tk 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +23

      Will last 5 years at least. Don't worry

  • @Dr.D00p
    @Dr.D00p 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +62

    The problem with the 4070 is that it adds a ludicrous premium to the cost of a laptop for very little extra performance, especially when VRAM becomes an issue. Only choose a 4070 laptop if its been discounted to a similar price as a 4060 laptop because it's just not worth the premium. Either just stick to a 4060 laptop or find the cheapest 4080 equipped laptop, where you'll actually see a huge 50 to 60% jump in performance

    • @steveco1800
      @steveco1800 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +12

      Yeah laptop 4070 has been cut down too much. The desktop cards are all 12gb. It’ll be ridiculous if the 5070 is another 8gb card (NVidia trying to upsell to 80 class for anyone who can afford it).

    • @niebuhr6197
      @niebuhr6197 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      ​@@steveco1800their intention is 8 GB 5070M

    • @joerussell9574
      @joerussell9574 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      I totally agree and got a deal on a 4060 gaming laptop for around 800$. The 4070 was not worth the extra $$$ over the 4060.

    • @bigmaschineee
      @bigmaschineee 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

      why would someone buy 4080 laptop when you can build yourself pc with 4090 for almost the same price. 4080 laptop is worse than pc 4070 super. absolutely not worth it for that price range. lenovo currently selling them for 3300. biggest waste of money you can ever make when 50 series laptops are around the corner

    • @joerussell9574
      @joerussell9574 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@bigmaschineee Totally agree,

  • @KevinEnjoyer
    @KevinEnjoyer 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +173

    Me and My RTX 4050 with 6GBs of VRAM:
    *Interesting.*

    • @victorangelogabriel
      @victorangelogabriel 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      have you ever encountered a game where the 4050 6gb vram failed you? I'm considering upgrading my 5 y/o laptop to a gaming laptop with this.

    • @KevinEnjoyer
      @KevinEnjoyer 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +24

      @@victorangelogabriel Detroit Become Human crashed at Ultra High settings. Unsure if it was due to lack of VRAM, because High settings was perfectly smooth at 60fps

    • @roqeyt3566
      @roqeyt3566 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      ​@@victorangelogabriela variety of games will just forcibly change the settings if you run out
      Its not a bad chip, but for new games even 8gb is not the best idea

    • @Not_a_lier
      @Not_a_lier 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@victorangelogabriel Aim for the highest vram capability possible especially if you want to try and use it in the future

    • @xxunoriginalgamingxx9046
      @xxunoriginalgamingxx9046 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      My 3060 mobile has 6g vram

  • @HunterTracks
    @HunterTracks 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +23

    I think the reason the 8 GB laptop is usually a bit faster when not limited by VRAM may be because, funnily enough, the "larger" VRAM chips require a bit of extra power to run, which makes sustaining high memory and GPU clocks more difficult with the same wattage.

    • @fleurdewin7958
      @fleurdewin7958 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      All types of RAM has timings. The lower density ones usually get tighter timings , thus lower latency.

    • @JarrodsTech
      @JarrodsTech  2 หลายเดือนก่อน +9

      I wondered this, but at the end of the day had no idea so didn't speculate, only other reason outside of silicon lottery that makes any sense. I checked both GPUs reported the same wattage used in HWInfo in a GPU stress test before testing, I don't know if this power budget includes the memory though.

    • @RobBCactive
      @RobBCactive 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Actually the video ignores that with 2Gb 32bit GDDR6 modules that it is bus width that determines VRAMBL size 128bit bus cards have 128÷32=4 modules for 8GB.
      The desktop 3070 chip was IIRC sold as laptop 3080 so a clamshell 2x VRAM type design doubled memory capacity. Hence similar disappointing performance boosts as desktop 4060 16GB cards vs 8GB.
      So for Ngreedia to copy AMD and be more generous requires them to design their chips with wider busses that cost die area and pin out so are locked down early in the design.
      Ngreedia pushed their luck with 30' series that lead to 3070 being destroyed compared to RX 6800 in HUB re-test last year.
      AMD timed Infinity Cache perfectly in 2020, with forward looking VRAM allocations taking into account the console generation. But most PC Meisterrace and Tech Tubers swallowed features like ray tracing and DLSS mitigating HW having less grunt.
      The result of buying into all the FUD is monopolistic pricing with AMD & AIB having only risk and nothing to gain from keener price competition.

    • @RobBCactive
      @RobBCactive 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      ​@@JarrodsTechsee explanation based on bus width determining VRAM size

  • @AirGunWeb
    @AirGunWeb 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

    Any data on content creator tasks? I bought a 4080 Laptop last black friday (2023) and I use it for games and content creation work. It’s been more than acceptable. What I’m seeing here is that dropping quality and resolution is the key. Do you really notice a difference on a laptop display? I wonder how many folks are trying to run high rez ultra settings? Anyway, thank you for another useful video!
    Cheers
    Rick

  • @kiekeyz
    @kiekeyz 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +41

    VRAM requirements are slowly becoming crazy. The new god of war tried to lock out 4GB vram cards

    • @HandleIsNewAndBad
      @HandleIsNewAndBad 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      You mean older God of War.

    • @kiekeyz
      @kiekeyz 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@HandleIsNewAndBad lol. Kratos is older in Ragnarok yes. But yea they launched it with a 4GB lock and later patched it out

    • @Eleganttf2
      @Eleganttf2 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

      People who only have 4gb vram cards shouldn't even be playing GoW Ragnarog tbh, hell i even question are they really buying the game because mostly people with these ridiculously cheap low end setup 90% of em uses crack games and not from Steam

    • @kiekeyz
      @kiekeyz 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@Eleganttf2 lol I understand what you mean. Very valid thoughts here. I have a 1660Ti with the 6GB and I’m looking to upgrade to a 40series over the Black Friday/cyber Monday period.

    • @HandleIsNewAndBad
      @HandleIsNewAndBad 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

      @@Eleganttf2 If I were to spend too much on a GPU for more, I would still download cracked games to save some money.

  • @kennytay7210
    @kennytay7210 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +14

    My take, the 8GB VRAM version uses less power. So more power is available to the GPU to maintain a higher clock. Which I think is why the delta is quite small in favour of the 8GB variant until you hit a VRAM bottleneck. Or the extra heat from the VRAM may be causing the components to run slightly slower.

  • @DragonOfTheMortalKombat
    @DragonOfTheMortalKombat 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +98

    4070 should've been the 12gb desktop one not this trash that we got that should've been named 4060Ti. 8gb and 128bit is way too low for 70 class

    • @aymenmrb4436
      @aymenmrb4436 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      True i have one . And should be better by more vram , cuda cores , bus with ect . Congracts nvidia for scum us

    • @valentinvas6454
      @valentinvas6454 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +10

      8GB in 2023/2024 is too low for anything besides the lowest end cards IMO.

    • @justmatt2655
      @justmatt2655 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      Only current gen laptop gpus worth getting are 4050, 4060 and 4080. (For Nvidia anyway)

    • @aymenmrb4436
      @aymenmrb4436 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      @@justmatt2655 4070 laptop have 50% cuda cores than 4060 laptop and desktop and even more than 4060ti desktop . But limited by low bus with and vram . Damn

    • @justmatt2655
      @justmatt2655 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@aymenmrb4436 yes and yet if you look at real world performance it doesn't have much at all over the 4060, but is far more expensive. That's why it's best to avoid

  • @revenantwolzart
    @revenantwolzart 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +24

    My 8GB is better than your 16GB - Apple
    Oh wait, what's VRAM?

    • @seraphimcaduto
      @seraphimcaduto หลายเดือนก่อน

      If only support for games in Mac didn’t suck so bad….

  • @grumpyoldwizard
    @grumpyoldwizard 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +41

    VRAM is important with the new games. I have 16GB on my card and I thank the lord I do. Games like Dragons Dogma 2 and others would have been rough without it.

    • @mars-jr5uu
      @mars-jr5uu 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I got rtx 4080 and it only has 12gb of vram..

    • @little_fluffy_clouds
      @little_fluffy_clouds 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@mars-jr5uu12 GB is plenty, you don’t need to run games at 4K on a gaming laptop

    • @MrOrigin120
      @MrOrigin120 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      You're good with 12 gb frame buffer unless you're playing at 4k maxed out with ultra ray tracing(which I wouldn't blame you, u probably paid a shit lot for that 4080)

  • @TrueGold88
    @TrueGold88 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +22

    For very few of the latest and upcoming scam games 10GB-12GB Vram might be needed for ultra 4K and even 1440p, 8GB should be the minimum standard.

    • @starfishshimee2860
      @starfishshimee2860 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      amd support games required 12 gb vram for 1080p

    • @darklord-mw7jd
      @darklord-mw7jd 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      ​@@starfishshimee2860amd get's low to non optimisation from game Dev's....

  • @ivanbrasla
    @ivanbrasla 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +12

    I disagree with the conclusion here. If the card can run "Ultra" preset or not is irrelevant, as textures can be set independently of the other settings, and they do improve the presentation with practically null performance hit (with enough vram of course)

    • @TheIndulgers
      @TheIndulgers 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Incompetence. Go watch HWU for actual testing on vram. The conclusion in this video is disingenuous.

  • @moonderland
    @moonderland 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

    Back then I remember that 4GB VRAM was the minimum standard. Crazy how time flies so fast, although I'm pretty sure that pc game optimization isn't practiced as much unlike before as devs heavily rely on stuff like DLSS.

  • @MyTechTaste
    @MyTechTaste 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +11

    If 8GB of VRAM is not enough, blame the game developer. If the game developer feels that they have optimized the game, then the developer should complain to Nvidia for providing too little VRAM.If enough developers complain, I think Nvidia will be willing to increase the VRAM capacity of their GPUs.

    • @kiro_luv8424
      @kiro_luv8424 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

      Nvidia doesn't give a single f, they're making hundreds of times more cash from workstation GPUs

  • @sir.fender6034
    @sir.fender6034 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +16

    They are artificially handicapping the GPU's VRAM size so that you are compelled to buy the next GPU. Nvidia is learning from their mistake of creating the 1080ti with 11GB of RAM in 2017. Great video!

  • @kennyalpha22
    @kennyalpha22 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +12

    I was just watching a gaming handheld review and one game had low vram indicator on it. That got me thinking about how much vram is good for ultra high resolution gaming and here Jarrod uploaded this video withing few minutes. 😮

    • @HunterTracks
      @HunterTracks 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      With handhelds, the VRAM isn't the only issue. A lot of Windows games absolutely choke when given less than 12 GB of RAM, and a handheld with 16 GB of RAM and 4 GB set aside for the iGPU has less than that.

    • @GHANIRVANA
      @GHANIRVANA 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Handled consoles doesn't have VRAM. Their iGPUs use LPDDR system RAM as VRAM. Since there is no dedicated GPU, there is also no GDDR VRAM that has high bandwidth.

  • @mikehorton6433
    @mikehorton6433 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    I've got the Aorus 15G RTX 3060 with 6GB VRAM and surprising still holds up in today's games. It manages to do games 1080p medium to high settings with DLSS at performance to quality and still manages above 60 FPS. It will come to a time for me to upgrade and I'll want at least 12GB VRAM they way games are cooking nowadays.

    • @Slamboyz95
      @Slamboyz95 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Yeah mine with RTX 3050 4GB still capable gaming with low setting lol, planning to upgrade next year with RTX 5060/5070 for the next 4 year upgrade (skip 1 gen)

  • @4ri5Gbs
    @4ri5Gbs 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +17

    I made a Minecraft modpack that uses entire 8GB vRAM, I think it requires 12GB or 16GB vRAM.

    • @nirvanaelguason7956
      @nirvanaelguason7956 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      in wich graphic? there is not the same 8GB vRAM in nvidia than in amd cause nvidia is much faster

    • @4ri5Gbs
      @4ri5Gbs 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      RTX 4060 8GB

    • @AurasV
      @AurasV 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      ​@@nirvanaelguason7956Lmao

    • @catfacecat.
      @catfacecat. 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      ​@@nirvanaelguason7956
      "much"
      5%?

  • @donkeymoo1581
    @donkeymoo1581 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

    A rare review of vram that actually acknowledges the fact that if you are pushing settings that use more vram in most cases you are limited by horrible fps before vram anyway.
    Same stuff on pc side. "I can't play cyberpunk 4k path tracing with frame gen on with a 4070 because it only has 12gb vram"
    No you can't play cyberpunk 4k path tracing with frame gen on because it still gets 45-50 fps.
    Frame gen is a fine argument for vram... But everyone on the internet including nivida them self say "it's not really worth using frame gen unless you have a base frame rate of 60 fps already" We are likely at the limit of what should have 8gb going into 50 series even on 60 skew cards because the state of game optimisation in 2024 (none existent) if you want to use frame gen you will be pushing that limit but saying 16gb is the absolute lowest default needed is beyond stupid. I would like to see 60 and 70 series be at 12gb and 80 be at 16gb because in any game that works that is far more than you would need but a friendly reminder that the most used vram gpus used in the steam hardware survey even in 2024 are 6 to 8gb.
    Anyway thanks for at least being a voice of reason unless most miss information amd fanboy channels pointing out if you are playing at 15-40 fps and "running out of vram" you have bigger problems than vram at that low fps anyway. Can't believe it's 2024 and people are trying to justify playing sub 60 fps like it's realistic or reasonable settings that anyone would use.

    • @techstation365
      @techstation365 10 วันที่ผ่านมา

      I hope you know that you can play at high settings but ultra textures? Try Horizon Forbidden West ultra textures on a 4070 laptop at 1440p vs a 3080 laptop, you'll clearly see a huge difference. Same applies to 12GB 3060 desktop vs 8GB 4060 desktop. Same happens on Ghost of Tsushima at 1440p Very High settings.

  • @teddym2808
    @teddym2808 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    I like having the buffer of some extra ram, not to mention when running in MUX mode so the Vram on the GPU is being used for everything. I really do feel 12 is the minimum these days.

  • @unionofslavstanrepublics2317
    @unionofslavstanrepublics2317 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

    13:38 Yeah that would be a fair conclusion here, GPU performance is definitely lacking when VRAM becomes a issue here with the RTX 3080 8 GB GPU.

  • @ProjectPhysX
    @ProjectPhysX 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    What sucks is that the 4070M is only half the VRAM bandwidth of the 3070M - 5 years backward progress on hardware in a single generation :/

  • @dimasdwiki6146
    @dimasdwiki6146 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I got a laptop with RTX 4060 8GB earlier on april this year, 6 months later i'm still very happy with it.

  • @srp770
    @srp770 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    I wanted the best performance that I could get for my money and my budget was set, can't go over it. So the most logical choice for me was 2024 Victus 16 with 4060. it was barely in budget, and at that price point, had 4060 with is the first card in the rtx 40 series lineup to have 8gb of vram. anything less than that has 6, which I already upgraded from a gpu with 6gb vram, it wouldn't cut it. So for most people like me who doesn't want to or can't spend more than whereabouts of 1000 euros, we have to stick with what we can get, and on my 4060, even on some demanding titles I have never seen it max out the vram

    • @gsst6389
      @gsst6389 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Stick what you get? Bs that i wont be inslave, i just invest somewhere pre- planned and save up for 3 months to get the one i actually want.

  • @ukraineforever1600
    @ukraineforever1600 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +176

    Don't be a slave to ultra settings! Use high and be happy☺️

    • @Reverseflash54
      @Reverseflash54 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +55

      ultra settings for screenshot,
      high settings for playing!

    • @Origin_unkn0wn
      @Origin_unkn0wn 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

      high textures and ultra everything else

    • @Gamer-vs3xl
      @Gamer-vs3xl 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

      ​@Reverseflash54 try forza horizon 5 at high then ultra massive difference

    • @whatisuser
      @whatisuser 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

      If you can use ultra today then your stuff will be more future proof though.

    • @timiko4
      @timiko4 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      medium or high, but with ultra textures, they make a difference and they are mostly tied to vram capacity

  • @marcm.
    @marcm. 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    7:03 there might be a slight latency difference between accessing 8 gigabytes and 16 from the memory controller. This would be very slight, and might show up by an average frame rate being slightly lower. But I think your reasoning that this is silicon lottery is more likely. Other possibility is that the cooling system on the 8 GB one just happened to be better placed when installed, you know the pasting and all that. I still think your idea is the most likely one

  • @Belbog1977
    @Belbog1977 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Thank you for making this video, I was literally wondering about this very question the other day and it was very much needed

  • @UrExtremeGamer
    @UrExtremeGamer 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    For me, personally, in newer games, I think 8gb or 10gb of vram is enough for gaming at 1080p max settings. For 1440p max settings, I would recommend 12gb or 16gb of vram, and for 4K max settings, most likely 16gb or 24gb of vram is sufficient.

  • @oriontechtips1980
    @oriontechtips1980 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Perfect timing! I am currently contemplating this exact issue thanks for the video. Jared and I cannot wait to watch it!

  • @masternhl
    @masternhl 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Thanks for these comparisons as always

  • @bld.shisuiyt7338
    @bld.shisuiyt7338 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Thank you for the video
    I've been waiting for a comparison video of 8gb Vs 16gb vram

  • @joerussell9574
    @joerussell9574 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I just bought a 4060 laptop and running CyberPunk 1080 full blast with DLSS and FG at 80fps+. In my view I don't see the need for anything above 8 gig at 1080 and like You said anything close to maxing out vram is unplayable by that point anyhow. I am totally happy with my 4060 gaming laptop for 800$!

  • @vipulvirus
    @vipulvirus 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    The point is 8GB is saturation point today. A lot of games have started to demand 8GB as minimum VRAM (Star Wars: Jedi Fallen Survivor and Star Wars: Outlaws). The games can barely run at 50FPS high in modern GPU's. Problem is, down the line next year and beyond games demanding such requirements will increase so a future proof laptop is better off with more VRAM as you are aready standing on the lower en of the minimum requirements.
    Same thing happened with me when I got a Dell G5SE in 2021. At that time, games barely needed 4GB RAM and my 6 GB was beyond good. Fast Forward 3 years and I cant run those games properly as some have 8 GB minimum ram requirements so that is my conclusion. To be future ready. Not be at saturation point.

    • @charlestrudel8308
      @charlestrudel8308 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      we just dont have a good alternative in term of vram that isnt higher priced than 2 000 usd. (meanwhile, my 4070 one costed 1450 usd...)

    • @longcatisloooooong
      @longcatisloooooong 27 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      @@charlestrudel8308 and it's a problem!

    • @charlestrudel8308
      @charlestrudel8308 27 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      @@longcatisloooooong oh i know.

    • @longcatisloooooong
      @longcatisloooooong 27 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@charlestrudel8308 I'm holding off on buying a new gaming laptop cuz 8gb vram is already not enough

    • @charlestrudel8308
      @charlestrudel8308 26 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@longcatisloooooong heres hoping the 5070 laptop will have 12GB, because if not, no laptop under 1700 uas will have 12 GB vram

  • @HypnoticSuggestion
    @HypnoticSuggestion 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    The extra 8GB of Vram is perhaps eating into the Gpu's power budget, just enough to let the 8GB Gpu pull ahead slightly in scenarios where Vram capacity wasn't an issue. Just a guess.

    • @mrbobgamingmemes9558
      @mrbobgamingmemes9558 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Interesting, but I still prefer get a bit less fps for higher texture and smoother frametime than the opposite

  • @sebbbi2
    @sebbbi2 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Worth noting that iGPUs share the memory with the CPU. 8GB shared RAM is not enough for modern games. Many AAA games simply crash at startup. 16GB shared RAM is also starting to become a problem. For example Alan Wake 2 runs out of RAM on 16GB RAM systems with iGPU randomly and crashes, even if you run it at 720p using lowest settings. It doesn’t even boot at 1080p.
    ROG Ally X now has 24GB of RAM to make modern AAA games playable on it. 24GB shared RAM is basically the same as having 16GB RAM for CPU and 8GB for GPU. Which is enough today (except for ultra settings in some games).

    • @frowningboat8039
      @frowningboat8039 หลายเดือนก่อน

      With AMD now allowing you to set more of the sharded memory as vram with the latest driver, do you know if that has made any difference here?

  • @vshade
    @vshade 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    One thing that I noticed is that for heavier vram games I need to close other applications, including other game launchers, so 16gb could make life simpler and I believe is not a scenario usually not tested in benchmarks but probably very common.

  • @MaTtRoSiTy
    @MaTtRoSiTy 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Been like this for literally decades as far as VRAM goes - I remember there was a trend 20 years ago where both Nvidia and Radeon were adding a 'whopping' 256MB to even 512MB of VRAM on cards that would be fine with 128MB, as they hit a performance wall long before that much VRAM mattered. Funny to see how this still plays out today with laptops but we actually have the opposite problem a lot with dedicated GPU's, particularly from Nvidia

  • @BreadMan434
    @BreadMan434 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Meanwhile me, playing Helldivers 2 every day with 6GB of VRAM on a GPU from 2019

    • @mars-jr5uu
      @mars-jr5uu 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Heyoo

  • @masti733
    @masti733 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Great video Jarrod. So timely too. I literally got a Asis Tuf 17in 4070 in the amazon sale at a good price. I have been playing cyberpunk and forza. Both games you tested and i also have my eye on black myth. Seems you are a mind reader! DLSS and frame gen are amazing i think. Thebloss of fidelty is quite minor when you are enjoying a game and not just staring at walls. My previous laptop was a gtx 1060. The difference is collosal. Great to see the 4070 stands its ground vs a 3080 laptop

  • @Derael
    @Derael 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    12-16 sounds reasonable to me. 12 will probably last for a while, but having 16 certainly doesn't hurt. 8 is barely enough for 1440p, but might need to reduce the setting a bit, and it's not future proof. In 3-5 years people who got 8 GB might start regretting it, but if you plan to replace your laptop by that time, might as well go with 8 and save money.

  • @TheIndulgers
    @TheIndulgers 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +23

    LOL. Laptop 4070 with 8gb vram 😂
    What a scam.

    • @hadifelani
      @hadifelani 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

      They also do it last gen with the 6GB 3060 😂

    • @astroidexadam5976
      @astroidexadam5976 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      ​@@hadifelaniLaptop 4070 is literally a desktop 4060 Ti while laptop 3060 has more CUDA cores than desktop 3060 despite having half the VRAM and clocked lower.

  • @PureQuraan
    @PureQuraan 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    can u do comparison to laptop's gpu on external monitor vs the same gpu of desktop

  • @F1ll1nTh3Blanks
    @F1ll1nTh3Blanks 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Probably depends on whats being played but realistically, if you're trying to cover everything then. No.

  • @vasudevmenon2496
    @vasudevmenon2496 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Having more vram is usually better if memory bus width needs to be big to accommodate the bandwidth and push more intense graphics.
    There is some issue with latest nvidia driver 565.90 with screen capture even with nvidia beta app is stuttering randomly

  • @docrx1857
    @docrx1857 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I have the MSI GP66 with this same hardware combo..11800h and 3080 8GB,,,,,360hz 1080p screen....8gb has been plenty at 1080p..........
    It has been a great laptop over the last couple of years and plenty of life still left.

  • @cobra2994
    @cobra2994 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    do you think 50 series laptops be the best we have yet? seems 10-40 series laptops not too much has changed but maybe nivdia will make the greatest gen of laptops yet hopefully. What I mean by that is hopefully we see closer desktop performance or maybe even better power consumption along with more vram.... which knowing nivdia probably will get same amount of vram again.

  • @andrescarrasco1248
    @andrescarrasco1248 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    As it was pointed out by hardware unboxed, 8gb VRAM will work with most games, but you'll get textures popping in and out, it won't be a problem until it is, the thing as always is that Nvidia did this stupid thing of having 4 generations in a row with only 8gb VRAM for the 70 series

  • @edge_of_theknife6315
    @edge_of_theknife6315 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    well higher vram is mostly for mixed settings like mid but with high textures

  • @ThieoKok
    @ThieoKok 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Question about vram
    If a card has 8 GB of vram and a game takes up 6 GB can you play more games that need 6GB or do you have aside from the 6GB only 2GB left?
    Pls pls answer it’s crucial to me

  • @Deeptesh97
    @Deeptesh97 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Comparison shouldn't take entire graphical preset as ultra, it should rather test Texture quality.

  • @rocker10039
    @rocker10039 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Hey, could you cover which laptop can run an ultrawide monitor? Or any high res monitor? I have a 3060 laptop and struggled running black myth wukong, so that got me thinking, which laptop gpu at a minimum is good enough?

    • @N.K.---
      @N.K.--- 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Rtx 4060 is the sweet spot to play any game easily on a laptop or you can get a 4050 at the minimum ❤ as for 30 series I would say 3070ti should be a minimum choice

    • @rocker10039
      @rocker10039 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@N.K.--- I'm strictly talking about laptop gpus. The resolution I run at is 3440 x 1440p if 4060 is enough then I'll wait for 5000 series laptops for price drops. I'm done with 30 series cards on laptops.

    • @niebuhr6197
      @niebuhr6197 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      3440x1440? 4080M minimum.

    • @rocker10039
      @rocker10039 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@niebuhr6197 that's what I felt too just wanted to be sure, thanks

    • @N.K.---
      @N.K.--- 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@rocker10039 then you should atleast 4080 or wait for new gpus

  • @gervin3447
    @gervin3447 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    is it okay to charge your gaming laptop while gaming?

  • @Valheru779
    @Valheru779 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I recently got the ROG Zephyrus M16 with a 4080 and noticed an issue in Overwatch: the characters appear too small, losing their sense of scale. For example, Zenyatta and Doomfist are the same size, and Roadhog doesn’t look much bigger than Reaper. The clarity is great, but I can’t seem to fix the size, even after adjusting various settings. Is this normal for laptops?
    Thanks in advance for any helpful tips Y’all

  • @mohamedmahmoudali2533
    @mohamedmahmoudali2533 3 วันที่ผ่านมา

    You can always lower all the settings but keeps textures at very high which makes a massive difference to visuals compared to keeping everything on low. You can no longer do that with 8gb of vram nowadays and nvidia have no excuse given the price of 4070 laptops.

  • @SilichipX
    @SilichipX หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    There's no point having the game set to 4K on a laptop with 15" or 17" inch screen unless you connect it to a 60" inch screen external monitor. 🤔

    • @JarrodsTech
      @JarrodsTech  หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      guess I'm deleting the video

  • @boiledegg-sultan8913
    @boiledegg-sultan8913 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Hello Jarrod, do you have a video about setting up a gaming laptop for games?
    + when are we gonna be able to purchase world wide?

  • @muhammedozbek7492
    @muhammedozbek7492 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Thanks for video! but I want to point out Gaming laptops widely used for professional workloads or newly appearing AI stuff. and both of them are Vram hungry. so I believe we really should have more Vram.

  • @lastsovietspy
    @lastsovietspy 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    very good video, indeed I truly needed it uu

  • @elgurideparana2796
    @elgurideparana2796 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    my laptops 3050 has a lot of issues due to lack of vram, it is a big difference.

  • @7lllll
    @7lllll 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    yeah, i notice laptop gpu performing similar to those desktop gpus with high vram capacity compared to the overall performance (e.g. rtx4060ti 16gb, rx7600xt). when i set effects quality to high and look at fire (particle effects), fps absolutely tanks, whereas i can crank up texture quality and render distance to max and it performs great

  • @RobloxianX
    @RobloxianX 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    11th gen intel just gave me a crazy flashback of pre windows 11 days, damn

  • @FlareTez
    @FlareTez 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I love your content soo much, and every video you post has helped me a lot. And also I subscribed to you last year (2023)

  • @Meisuko
    @Meisuko 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Thank you this was helpful video 🙏

  • @__.trung._
    @__.trung._ 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    but laptop with 11gen intel cpu are not less powerful and with lower gpu tdp then 2022 laptop with max tdp?

  • @DansYT-lv8iu
    @DansYT-lv8iu 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Hey Jarrod, can you also do a comparison on professional 3D softwares like Blender & Houdini? I’m planning on using my 4060 laptop till at least the end of college (4yrs) for 3D modeling & Rendering.

  • @rickyspenech6984
    @rickyspenech6984 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    What about productivity? Blender, AI videoupscaling with for example Topaz, Premiere Pro and so on?

  • @ibrahimasad8533
    @ibrahimasad8533 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Hey Jarrod! I am looking to buy a gaming laptop with an RTX 4060 but my concern is overheating issues, mainly because I live in a hot climate. According to ur experience and ur opinion, which one has the least heating issues and the best cooling, Alienware m16 r2 (Core Ultra 7 and RTX 4060), Asus Zephyrus G16 2024 (Core Ultra 7 and RTX 4060), or the Lenovo Legion 7i (i7 14700HX and RTX 4060)?

  • @mikelreborn3254
    @mikelreborn3254 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    I have a 2023 Lenovo Legion Pro 5 with an i7 13700 HX, 32 gigs of RAM and a 4070 with 8 gigs of VRAM. Play at 1440p high settings with DLSS on and it works fine. Raytracing looks fine .. Space Marine 40K plays fine, same with Black Myth Wukong... and pretty much anything else I throw at it.

    • @mikelreborn3254
      @mikelreborn3254 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      With my budget I couldn't afford the higher end model this was already a $1600 laptop well above my budget.. I also bought a Samsung G5 1440p 32-in 144 HZ monitor with g-sync and with the g-sync it seems like it plays just fine. Having a monitor with either freesync or g-sync helps extraordinarily well

    • @mikelreborn3254
      @mikelreborn3254 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I was going to buy a handheld but felt they aren't quite there yet...maybe here in a couple of years I'll replace this legion with one of those.

    • @Eleganttf2
      @Eleganttf2 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      ​@@mikelreborn3254why the hell would you buy a 144Hz panel in 2024 and not the usual 165Hz-180Hz 1440p panel ???

    • @mikelreborn3254
      @mikelreborn3254 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@Eleganttf2 it goes to 165hz but only through the display port and my laptop doesn't have a display port so I have to use HDMI which only supports 144 HZ.

    • @mikelreborn3254
      @mikelreborn3254 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Also it was $250 new and was the best value, between the laptop $1600 the RAM upgrade for $100 and the WD black SN850X I bought that was $200 I was maxed out..I have other bills to pay and things to buy..wish I was rich lol

  • @dampflokfreund
    @dampflokfreund หลายเดือนก่อน

    Jarrod, those benchmarks do not show the full picture. Most VRAM related issues happen over time if you play for a while. At first everything is fine but then fps starts to drop even when being at the same spots as before and you have to restart the game to get the performance back on track. This behavior is not shown in these benchmarks. 8 GB shows this behavior in many titles already even at modest resolutions and settings. 8 GB is NOT enough, especially not at that price point.

  • @upoone
    @upoone 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I own an Asus TUF 2023 equipped with a 7535 and a 4050 6GB, which is quite sufficient for a 1080p 144Hz screen. I don't plan to exceed that even with an external monitor. Although there is a recently released 8GB version of the 4050, I am not considering an upgrade.

  • @genuser9758
    @genuser9758 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Problem is though, you're not testing modded skyrim vram usage. Now that's what I wanna see.

  • @TarnishedEldenKing
    @TarnishedEldenKing 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    My 3050ti with 4gb still runs gow ragnarok, you dont need it but its awesome to have.
    I got a strix g18 with 4060 now and its way better obviously. But you can run most games on 4gb vram.

  • @JMatrx
    @JMatrx 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Maybe the difference of power envelope, to power the 16gb vram makes the clocks go down a bit Vs the 8gb variant?

  • @Braquemartable
    @Braquemartable 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    So .... Should I buy a laptop with 3080TI 12gb or wait for blackfriday to maybe have a 4080 at a decent price ?

  • @EliteGamingRevolution
    @EliteGamingRevolution 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    The 30XX series can't use NVIDIA'S frame gen but still has access to Lossless Scaling's universal/all game frame gen and also FSR frame gen in the games it's coded in by default, otherwise just use the FSR FG hack.

  • @stevesutton772
    @stevesutton772 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Dear Jarrod, what is the best way to store a gaming laptop long term? I got a decent one but then went out and got a tower. Im sure ill find use for the laptop at some point (3070ti) but cant sell it and dont have time for it right now. Thoughts?

  • @BDSonderKlassen
    @BDSonderKlassen 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    How are you using FG with 30 series GPU?

  • @istealmemesforfun
    @istealmemesforfun 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I hate the fact that the laptops deals doesn't support international shipping

  • @muhammadzaim959
    @muhammadzaim959 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Hi just want to know if playing 2024 game, how much vram minimum and recommend, not chase ultra setting high or very high 60 fps lock is good enough

  • @BixxPlays
    @BixxPlays 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    you can really game on any system from the last 20 years as long as you have realistic expectations. like if you just want to play old dos games in dosbox it doesn't take verry powerful hardware. all that really maters is that you keep your expectations realistic for the machine you happen to be using.

  • @johnpp21
    @johnpp21 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    basically mobile rtx 3000 series 8gb ram is enough as it doesn't have enough power to its full potential
    will 4000 series will be the same tho?
    or future 5000, 6000 series

  • @ignaciodiazgonzalez1890
    @ignaciodiazgonzalez1890 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Where can I buy previous years laptops? I’m in Australia 😅

  • @jimmyjiang3413
    @jimmyjiang3413 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    For me I would like to see laptop GPUs in most entry level to be 8GB bare minimum at 1080p, max ray tracing at 1080p would better get somehow unusual 160-bit 10GB GDDR7 when using 2GB chips per 32-bit. Things would alleviate when more later games use even more memory at maxed out FG+RT+AI-TAAU-SR+ray reconstruction, and 3GB VRAM per single GDDR7 die would come out, so eventually getting up to 24GB VRAM in flagship, 18GB in upper midrange to higher end, 15GB midrange, 12GB entry level. Maybe after years of GDDR7 I would like to see potential way similar to how LPDDR would be, eventually to make LP-GDDR for higher bandwidth-capacity density on laptops and embedded SoCs in limited power consumption and thermally constrained scenarios.

  • @Notruelazman
    @Notruelazman 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I have amd's 6700s with 8gb vram and like you said because its power is limited I never play on 4k and rarely play on 2k anyways so vram was never became an issiue. 8gb vram is completely fine and will be fine for another 4 years at least if you are okay with 1080p.

  • @MrYouthfist18
    @MrYouthfist18 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    4k gaming is a nice to have but too costly to maintain. 1440p is my sweet spot at high or ultra settings and I’m getting that with my RTX4070 laptop. Is it future proof? Maybe for the next 2 years but I’m comfortable for now.

  • @touhamichaoui415
    @touhamichaoui415 10 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Happy with my g15 advantage edition with rx 6800m 12gb got it on sale for 1100 bucks and then upgraded it and fixed the small known issues about it play every game I throw at it 1440p high-ultra settings!

  • @ZenataUSA
    @ZenataUSA 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Man I really hope they don't sell 8gb 5060/5070 next gen.

    • @henry-u5t
      @henry-u5t หลายเดือนก่อน

      I have bad news, it already leaked…

    • @4evahodlingdoge226
      @4evahodlingdoge226 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      If they do it just means video game devs will have to optimize because most people buy xx60 series cards, if majority of the market can't play your games you make less money.

    • @dampflokfreund
      @dampflokfreund หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@henry-u5t If Nvidia pulls this shit off, the whole community of all tech related channels have to stick together to trash these products to oblivion. This would be the most obvious case of planned obsolescence.

    • @henry-u5t
      @henry-u5t หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@dampflokfreund I concur, it's totally scummy. I do anticipate it happens based off of what I am seeing. I hope people really voice their dissatisfaction with it but I also hope Radeon and Intel make some good headway in laptop GPUs as well.

  • @bassjacinth
    @bassjacinth 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Hello Jarrod, can you make a review for MSI crosshair 16 and compare with Lenovo LOQ? which is the best quality and performance both of them. This is the best ports laptop for me.
    Thanks !! 😊

  • @nami4069
    @nami4069 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Hey Jarrod, how do I open up my Helios Neo 16? The only yt video I see that’s opening up the 16 they don’t show where to pry or grab open on the back of it.
    I’m trying to transfer my 1 TB sata HHD using an external hard drive casing to my Neo 16’s 1 TB SSD and then I want to take my 2020 Helios 300’s 512 SSD and install it into the Neo 16’s second M.2 storage slot.

    • @nami4069
      @nami4069 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      The data on the HDD into the Neo 16’s SSD I mean.

    • @nami4069
      @nami4069 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Last thing, I need to also remove windows 10 on the 512 GB SSD so I can put it in the Neo 16 but don’t know how to, the Neo 16 came with windows 11. The Helios 300’s motherboard broke so I want to transfer all my data to the Neo 16.

  • @ChinchillaBONK
    @ChinchillaBONK 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    You can try this again with 4060 6gb and 4060 8gb laptop GPUs. Unless these models are only available in my region. I found it weird to see 2 versions of 4060 for laptop

  • @leeli4692
    @leeli4692 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    My favorite tech youtuber.

  • @Baddmann1931
    @Baddmann1931 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    if someone is opting for 1440p rt/max level gaming ,pc is their best bet and it very probable that the person will be able to afford both a pc and a laptop.

  • @DrNeat
    @DrNeat 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    This is crazy, I was just wondering about the jump from 6 to 8 VRAM.

  • @sreedhar7266
    @sreedhar7266 หลายเดือนก่อน

    It makes a difference in rendering works