First Try With John Deere 8820 Combine- Sparks And Broke Down Already
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 10 ก.ย. 2024
- Join along as we give the 8820 a check over before we get rolling. With the help from Robert we roll into the 1st corn of the year. Even with it being wet the combine is doing great job till sparks and noises stop us. With a bad bearing on the straw chopper it's repair time already. Thanks for watching along.
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I love all the comments from professionals armchair farmers. He’s starting from scratch and using second hand equipment because in the real world that’s all a new farmer can afford to start with. Keep working on the problems as they come up and keep doing the best you can do Duffy !!
Sounds like the arm chair Farmers know what they are talking about.
@@terryhobdy5727some have some good insight on what to do, others need to shut their traps and let the grown ups chat 😂
Fan speed in corn should be about maximum, about 1000 rpm. That cleaning fan belt is shot. Adjust while combine is running.
One know problem is the fan adjuster brackets can be bent. To squeeze the adjuster sheaves together more: the rod with a hook on one end, and a bolt hole on the other can have a half inch cut out and welded back together to make it shorter. Gives more squeeze adjustment.
Sieve and chaffer should be mostly wide open. Around 5/8” or wider on sieve, and 3/4” or more on chaffer. Hard to throw corn out the back.
At least pull the chopper sharp knives out for corn. Chopper Hammers are not to be sharp. New ones have square edges.
Let the combine empty out before going to idle on engine, lowering the engine speed too quickly can get a bunch of corn in the fan from low air flow while the shoe augers are still emptying out. I spent 15 years as a Deere dealer combine mechanic. Good luck.
have ran many an hour in those 00 and 20 series deere combines. Never ever ran corn with the chopper on. even with the slowdown kit it beats them up too much. The fan filling with corn is because the sieve is too tight, open it up as wide as a cob of corn and leave it. adjust the chaffer to get your sample better. in beans you'll use both. Many older farmers took the sieves completely out in corn. Clamp the concave down until its stripping the cobs clean but leaving them whole out the back. Also either the variable pulley is worn out and needs to be rebuilt or the belt is worn down and not wide enough to get the speed you want.
I agree with a lot of the previous comments. It's a learning curve and you are tackling the issues as you identify them. Getting to know a new machine is always a slow go. Getting to know a "new - to - you - BUT used machine" is a whole new ballpark. I think your time is being well spent, getting the kinks out. After all this is year 1 on the new farm, doing new things. This will put you ahead of the game for the 2024 season. Keep up the great content and thanks for taking us along!
Couldn't of said it better myself 😁😁
Keep on keeping on. Don’t let the small things get you down. You will succeed. With your attitude, abilities, and determination, you will win.
Be safe
Been there with the chopper many times. Ended up by a used set of rubber flap spreaders which made the machine way smoother and way less maintenance. Probably wouldn’t work the best for beans but corn they are plenty good for spreading.
Lot of critics in here😂 looks like a normal first day hiccups for me. You have two very minor issues and you’ll be back at it.
Hi chris if you are going to use your chopper in corn you should tip the knives out of the way and just use the swinging hammers just giving you some advice
We have 2 6620 combines and we actually took the slowdown kits off and sold them, we just disengage the knives and let the hammers just spread the fodder.
Bank management is sitting and watching along hands writhing frantically,lol,get after it Duffy.
That belt isn't stretched it is worn too thin! I had exactly the same problem on mine combine with the reel speed adjustment. How ever i adjust it it ran almost the same speed and the belt seemed a bit loose. I went and bought a new belt it was nearly double the width! Now variable reel speed adjustment works like a dream.
When you buy an old combine like that, expect to have a ton of breakdowns the first few times you run it. Took me 2 weeks to complete my first full pass in corn when i first got my 4400 because of shit breaking. Just the nature of the beast
At least you could see what you were doing with the new lights and found out something you didn't know about the combine keep learning
I once too bought a 10,000$ combine in 1998. And the best part was when I traded it in 99 😂
I bought a 4400 for my first combine and learned a whole lot of things right away. Had 680 original hours on it. It sitting caused a boat load of issues. More than if it had 6000 hrs. Then bought a 6600 to use while I fixed the 4400. Another lesson learning tool. It was fun, but holysmokes, I was good for learning for a few years lol.
Hi Chris, you knew you were going to encounter a few problems, exactly why you’re easing into it.
A worn bearing and belt and getting used to driving and understanding how the combine actually works and then fine tuning it is all part of the process.
Keep going and and good luck.👍
Wrenching opportunities keep you learning! Conquer them one at a time. Love watching your content. 👍👍👍
The blades in the straw chopper should be out when picking corn
Run them in When picking beans and wheat
On a 9010 series the owners manual says not to run the chopper in corn. Do some research on a power shut down. I believe the manual covers that. It will show you how to get the correct concave setting. After that you adjust cylinder speed based on grain condition vs unshelled corn. Lots to learn but nobody gets 20 years experience without the first year. Love the vids. Keep up the good work.
I always pulled the straw chopper off my 7720 turbo when doing corn. Then mowed the stalks in preperation for tillage. Cheers....
Air lance or a hot power wash would make cleaning the combined ready to go. Plus checking the rest of the bearings would help. Take care this winter bro man!👍👍👍👍
You are supposed to move the knives out when using the chopper also it spreads your cobs and other debris out which enriches the ground more evenly.
8820 's Clean grain best sample is when combine is rum full
You made some great progress too, As you say minor things and tomorrow is another day.
As others have said if the belt is wore too narrow they won’t spin fast enough. Our 6620 also had the sliding sheeve on the pulley wear the center out so it wouldn’t run fast enough. Taking the chopper off frees up horsepower. As long as you do something to break up the residue hopefully it won’t cause plugging in tillage tools. Balance is very important on a straw chopper knives are reversible don’t need to sharpen them the dry material shatters not like a forage harvester
Standard field repair for choppers. Drop it out and continue combining.
These comments you should listen to these experienced farmers. they are telling you the truth. I know you're a new farmer, But if you don't do it right.
You will lose a lot of money. One more thing ,you should have one of your experienced friends the combine an show you a few tricks of the trade.
Best rules I learned running combine was
corn still on the cob, tighten the concave down
Damaged corn slow the cylinder down
Set the sieves open until the sample gets dirty
And a dirty sample was better than corn being tossed out the back
8820’s do better when there full
And it never does corn any good to get run through the cylinder twice with the tailings
Grandpa ran the 20 series combined for decades loved them. With enough time and patience you can make them run like a Swiss watch. Good luck on your harvest
I noticed how you pulled off to the tree line to dump the little bit in your bin I just couldn't see your deer stand in the trees😊😊
Just a thought... The chopper being out should leave a swath you can bale for bedding pack or ground cover. Not having the chopper isnt the end of the world. I see corn stalk getting baled pretty often honestly. Most use it like straw anyway after its baled.
Keep swingin Chris... You'll get it...
Not bad for day one on a used but new to you machine. You have to find what needs to be repaired and adjusted. On top of that you have never r3ally run this combine before. A big thumbs up for you. 👍👍👍
Chris make sure the clean grain elevator chain is adjusted and the paddles are not worn much. The green can slip by the paddles and back up into the fan.
Glad you're getting the bugs worked out of the combine
never too many extinguishers on a beast like this
Way too go bro, I've been watching you since you moved in to your new place, you have been hit with challenges, and have managed to bounce back, and you mechanical knowlegde is far amazing, I'm proud of you bro, keep up the good work and keep up with the content, its fun to watch. 👍 🤙
Better days are ahead for you!
I ran a JD6600 it had 2 rotating spinners in the back, bearing went bad, I cut the belt and went back to work, the last month I ran it the adjuster for the speed variator would not stay where I wanted it to, held it in place with vise grips, I was lucky to have a person to guide me in running a combine, small adjustments can make a huge difference also I would start at 5:00 in the morning, you can pick corn with frost on it, then when the sun came up I would stop for an hour to let it melt off, damp and wet corn is a pain to deal with, I had some one year that ran 18 to 19 percent moisture, ran through the combine like butter
I always just dropped the chopper when in corn. The heavy cobs hitting the rotating knives at full speed , the debris becomes a high speed missile that at the least, will destroy the ends of the straw walkers and the rear hood of the machine. On our Axial flow there isn't even a chopper on it, don't miss the aggravation of dealing with it! Anytime you have corn ending up down in the fan, that's a big problem. Is it a leak in the auger bed above it ? or is it backing up from the sieves? That grain hitting the fan blades will chew the blades up in no time at all. You weren't feeding the corn head fast enough to over load the cleaning sieves unless their too closed tight. A rule of mine on setting them, top one , 1/2 to 2/3 open bottom 1/3 open. The idea is to allow easy flow into the clean grain pan, but run enough air to float out the chaf. Get that air duct clean and that will allow much better air flow. Critters love to get in those spaces over winter and fill it up with their habitat trash! If too much big trash is getting onto the bottom seive adjust the top a bit closer. That big fan on that machine should have enough air at full tilt to blow whole grain out the back, then we slow it down enough to eliminate the loss. Normally if the bottom sieve is too closed it will over load the return elevator and choke it. Are we sure the return elevator is running? A lot of things to check on a unknown machine, that's why if possible I prefer to run it in the daylight till I know every thing is good. You'll get there just takes a bit of patience with older combines that haven't had the best care.
As always enjoy your combine is definitely a learning curve I ran one when I was a young man and trust me we were always so forget all the super farmers and do you baby I'll keep watching you keep doing what
Don’t know many people that try to adjust a combine for the first time in the dark just because they took time to put bright lights on for starting in the dark
Your wet corn will be a blessing. Now you have time to get the combine and your fleet up and running. Check out your dump trailer, give it a once over.
It's coming together 🎉
Only time we ever took the chopper off was to windrow and bale straw. The chopper knives also should be pulled out in corn, slide back in for beans. You don't sharpen the swinging hammers, turn over or replace.
Greetings from Spain, you make good videos, I like your farm with good classic machinery.
Just go with the flow Chris and don't get stressed over all the comments telling you what to do ,it's your farm at the end of the day.
Well Chris those led lights are sure an improvement, Almost like daylight.
For running in corn you also pull the knife bar mounted to the chopper out
I can tell just by how the corn is stacking up in the bin it is WET!
What could be better on a Fri? Renter dropped of a 9420R, doing tillage on dad's ground watching Duffy!
I see that your corn harvest is going as well as ours; did a test run and for me it was one of the straw walker bearings that failed 😂
I had a tie rod on the rear steering break off on the 7720 today. Landpro had one in stock I just got it on.
You have friend's that know all about harvest don't be shy to ask what and how to get machines ready don't be a I am learning yes you are but you need guidance as well more than enething
Chris never mind what other people say finger tip people are on In a million but have never lifted a finger to do anything mate your doing it keep going
We ran the chopper in corn and didn't use a slow down kit on a 6620 for 25 plus years
Chris, your gonna figure this out and will be so much in a better position from learning all the adjustments on your combine , your a very determined person and trust me , if you haven't let everything else slow you down by now wow !
I am excited for you when you get her tuned in ! Tks for sharing Chris, best to you and Yankco
Harvest time! Roll the counter for number breakdowns, there are gonna be some but fingers crossed for fewer than expected. Farming is not a job it’s a way of life, only a few are called and it’s a tough life but Duffy is a legend!
We ran 7700 combines for yrs. And we always took off the chopper for corn and wheat.
Good job guys
Its all learning Chris dont let anyone say otherwise...combining is not something you've done alot of in the past so your learning. And shit happens cant always catch a bad bearring just by looking at it. Just be thankful Rob was behind you to see the sparks flying. Also on that belt it may be the right belt for soy beans maybe there is a shorter belt for corn to speed the fan up?
Chris Robert Ed that was great but with all you did your still wrenching and more fixing tomorrow may be betterthank you Chris I never miss a video and can't wait for next video.
Give Andy houragin farmin fixen and fabricating I’m sure he can give you some advice on how to setup that combine to get it close and some advice on how to get her dialed in.
Stopped and saw him a couple of hours ago
Yes, slide the sections out to do corn. The flails are not sharpened. the sections do the cutting for straw or beans. It's important to balance the chopper. It will vibrate apart if not. While you are there, change the other chopper bearing. If one went bad, it worked on the other. Fan belt is shot. Make sure the spring pully slides to keep tension on the fan belt.
I'm gonna say it. Keep that combine out of the rain. It's already melting. Get some greenhouse hoops and extensions and tech screw steel horizontally up and over the bows. Make it long enough if you'd also want to store your chopper too.
That corn will not be ready till into December. You may be combining New Year's Day.
On the fan drive both the top and bottom pulleys have a big roll pin in them to keep both halves spinning the same speed. These can wear and break off letting one half of the pulley spin on the shaft while the belt slips on the other pulley half.
there's 2 speeds on your clean grain elevator you should check that its in high
Slow down kit so you don’t beat ends of straw walkers . Take chopper knifes out for corn fan belt not good take a corn cob shelled there is little access doors buy rear concave adjust to cob then adjust front when get to combining
Gotta love the adventure👍
Don’t forget to oil the chains.
hang in there Duff...lights are a necessity...besides, corn isn't even ready...fix your problems, then cut corn when its ready...
You had better check the auger tray for cracks and metal breaks allowing corn to fall down to the fan.
great idea !!!
Learning on a worn out machine. This should be interesting. Can't wait for to discover why most of the 20 series combines are in salvage yards.
you buying him a new combine then lol
One reason so many are in salvage yards is that everyone ran the wheels off them and they did not keep up with repairs and maintenance.
Unless you go over those machines every winter, you will be screwed by mid season of the second year.
At one point, we ran 5 machines and it was a month long project to work on them every winter. It just goes with the territory.
I learn something ag every video. Lights on the tractor good. Need some right on the tractor 🚜 pointed right at the forks..dry days ahead
All of our corn was a test weight of high 20's, the last 100 acres is appearing to be around 19-17 moisture wich is ideally where wet corn should be.
Pull the knives out of the straw chopper, when running corn.
put the corn in the dryer if it is wet
Maybe you can find a set of spreaders for your combine. Check a combine scrap yard.
It’ll take time to get all the bugs out
I think you brought a lemon this time combine had it's time they found a sucker to sell it to I am sorry to say that but you should not buy stuff on your own always get experience friends to go with you it's not always true what they say to you that's way you need some one that knows there machines at least the main things that cost lots.
Agree with on that alot more wear on machine than he thought kida like the Kenworth wore out.
Duffy swing the knifes out in front of chopper that’s what we do on the 8820 titan 2 grate combine
"OPPS" You are too pull the knives "Out in Corn" Yezzzz "Always pull the knives "Out for Corn" "Always"!!!
We never ran the choper on our Massey Ferguson , pop pulled it off the hole time we owned it and put it back on when we sold it
You can try and shim the top pulley for the fan adjustment that might gain you a few rpm’s with a new belt. On these machines usually you run the fan speed wide open and never touch em
U don't need the chopper on corn. The head and cylinder grinds everything up good only need it with beans or wheat
Hi Duffy you may find corn in fan if you hadn't fully let the old girl run all material through. I've had my class combine block due to that and it did seem as if you may have shut down quicker due to the chopper bearing problem in the field . Keep up the good work , your getting there and loving the videos .
Combines suck but no matter what breaks it's better to have one than stress about when the custom guy is going to show up it gets better give it a few hours of running and a few kinks and you will have a blast
Just keep your head up, I feel you are doing a great job, with it being your first year and new to you machine. Once you get the bugs worked out, you will be kicking butt before you know it.
Chris, its your combine and you needed those lights, the others were junk but at the same time you knew you were going to find things worn out.I mean you did a pretty extensive PM with just the chains, belts and fluids . Its your combine and the corn isnt ready yet anyways, ignore all the naysayers, this is your equipment
When your corn is 30%- Why not fix your lights and stuff? Your gettin there! I wouldnt adjust too much with the corn that wet- might just end up changing it back when its dry
90% of the people commenting have never ran a 20 series combine they talk like it’s a s780 don’t listen to there settings… I still call and ask my dad for advice on our s780 and he always says “well my 8820 never had that problem” 😂 keep doing what your doing that 8820 may need some love but I bet you it’ll do a better job and produce a cleaner sample than any of this new stuff
You dont sharping the hammers
Turn tnem knives out for corn make sure your curtain is in there otherwise you will wear out combine sides
Your chopper you can flip the blades replace both bearings
There are several rubber flaps for sealing all the moving parts which rats and mice can have eaten through , worth checking out
"Chop fodder and Spreader" !!!
Need a battery cart bro,maybe put an inverter on the combine so you can plug into the shed power or while parked and working on it put a battery charger on it of a nighttime,just my 2 cents.
That sprocket has a lot of wear. It may last awhile, but if it wears too much the rollers will start riding on the tip of the sprocket teeth.
Well, you don’t have to take it out you can leave it in there for corn just take the belt off or like you already did the pulley
Out of curiosity, have you considered making cornstalk bales? Or are they out of the question due to time and resources?
Terminology is off.
People are gracious to let you know and give you the correct terminology. You don't even try to be thankful and correct yourself. Instead, you try to insult them by calling them "Super Farmers".
""Chop it & Spread it" ! "Always! "Unless you are baling the "Fodder" !
if you use the chopper again pull the knifes out it is so hard on the chopper to leave them in in corn
"Corn in the fan" "Yikes your auger pan might be "Shot" !!!!
Chris do any of the lights you took off work? IIRC there were a couple of small LED light bars on it . Put them back on to cover the head.
Used equipment is an adventure that few can stand😅