I think the dragon banner criticism is just a silent majority type situation, where the majority of people who liked it just said nothing/didn't say much about it but the minority who disliked it were very outspoken about it
I've never been big on season rewards. Either I'm wearing an item achieved by hitting the rank everyone else in the lobby is in or above....or I'm showing off that I dropped out of that rank? It feels like having your high school diploma framed in your college dorm room.
My reason for using them: I earned it. Even when they don’t look great I still use it, i build a whole car around my rewards. It’s MY achievement, and i want to use what I earned. I don’t use it the entire season and i switch cars around a lot anyways, but I like using what i have. It isn’t showing off, it’s appreciating my progress from my start rank of silver.
@@realtechhacks I have good news for you. A few weeks ago, sunless said he is doing a new true story video. th-cam.com/users/postUgkxmF0xEHIK_aGaCAie9WCulgCIDCao_kfQ
Last season i defended the S3 decals in the steam forums and i saw a ton of players using them in S4. Also, i really like many items from the new S5 rocket pass (which is better than the last one imo) and some of the new tourney rewards. But these wheels are so ugly.. They just should rework them or give us a clean version. I think most players above gold generally dont want to use wheels that have to much stuff on the tire so they start flickering when you use them - especially on Octane where the whole wheel is visible. I think psyonix should focus more on cleaner but stylish wheels that are actually useable in game.
Exactly I think psyonix doing too much (or not enough depends on how you look at it) if they just looked at most of the player base they'd realize that we prefer cleaner items
@@potatothatplaysbrawlhalla152 How does it help to just put the exact same phrase as a definition. It's like saying "Watch this" means "See this". It's the same thing, so yeah, they mean the same, but it doesn't exactly add anything to the conversation.
@@BroletariatRL is no one getting the point?.. if the rewards were cool enough that people would want them … which is the whole reason they are put in.. atleast put effort to make them valuable
Same. It’s almost the same as the people who watch RLCS purely for the drops. Like dawg, watching this can make you better. Just like grinding for rank can make you better. Guess some people need flashy incentives to improve…? 🤷🏻♂️
I started the season after and have wanted one so bad ever since. I was honestly shocked to hear about the controversy years later. They look sick and I always see them used over the plain ones.
The season reward from season 5 were the best because you had a form of evolution, I don't care if the reward have the logo of my rank in it. I just want something that have a form of evolution !
Yeah I agree. I’d rather the rewards be unique instead of being confined to the rank logos. It would be cool if they made new items similar to the tournament rewards
4:50 no, I believe it’s because we’ve had the proverbial sand thrown in our face with the more recent season rewards that we finally realized we were nitpicking over arguably pretty cool rewards and they’re nothing at all bad compared to the let down that the last few season’s rewards have been. The standard for season rewards has decreased sharply and we just didn’t understand how truly bad it could be.
I think the problem with the dragon banners was awarding them at the same time they rolled out banners in general. So everybody who was maybe hoping for something to give their car a little extra flash instead had to absorb that this whole new feature was going to be a part of the game. They weren't hoping for a new feature, they were hoping for a better version of what they already had.
The Problem ist not the grind for the rank rewards, but the point in being at a certain rank encourages people to built an massive ego combined with Fear of losing that rank. Both this Ends up in missing self-reflection of playstyle and toxicity (which then will be answered with even more toxicity by other players)
I grind each season to get my rewards, and then i spend the rest of the season with a little bit less stress. I never use the rewards, but still. I want them. I'll feel empty without that season rewards. Plus, having each seasons rewards is a good way to track your progress because to can see how well you did each season.
After hearing the info about the banners, I'm convinced that these wheels will be semi-popular in the future. The reason I think so is because compared to previous season rewards, these stand out. Try-hards and people that like clean cars won't use them, but low ranked player and trolls definitely will.
I'm a try hard when it comes to playing the game, but fking items??? Grow the fk up use whatever the fk you want, don't let ppl drag you down just bc of a fking wheel, like wow I'm commiting a fking crime by using wheels that might not be as cool as others big fking deal
this is why i love the way league does it. everyone knows it's going to be a victorious skin, just a matter of what random champ it's gonna be. I would appreciate that in rocket league. I could be wheels, decal, banner, anything. but make it same every year and spend the season putting in effort to make it always great
I started playing RL in the midst of se.3 (2021), so this is all new to me. I bought a se.4 pass, not really knowing what I'd be getting, or what to expect. I learned a lot, really quick. While I'm not dissatisfied with the season rewards, I'm also not excited over them. I like the general wheel style, and I'll use them, but I don't think I'd miss them if they disappeared from my items.
For old season 5 imagine 5 groups of people. People that don't intend on using the reward and don't care what it is, people that don't intend on using the reward but want it to be something they *could* use, people that *will* use the reward but *don't* care what it is, people that *will* use the reward and *do* care what it is, and people that might use the reward (undecided). Out of all these groups, the first two will likely never use the reward unless it matches their loadout already. This would only be realistic for the dragon banner as the generic one doesn't really match anything in particular. People who want the reward as something they *could* use will be very vocal about not getting good rewards but will be the last people to actually use them, so it makes sense that the dragon banner saw more use when you think of it like this
I really want to know how many people want to get to the next rank because of the rewards. I feel like 99% of the motivation to get to next rank, comes from just wanting to get better. The rewards are just a little side thing nobody cares too much about
I find it hilarious, I only played about 12 games in comp 2s, maybe 4 games in 3s and never played comp again last season, so I got no rewards. I'm really glad I didn't spend time doing ranked.
Dragon banners looked great. People were just disappointed they received banners instead of something they could put on their cars. The current wheels will still be considered garbage in 10 years.
How about community made stuff? I found a lot of great looking decals, goal explosions and more out there which are sadly only usable with bakkesmod. I would like to have a vote on 5 different things and whatever gets the most likes will be taken as the new season reward - but with the rank based design. They could even pick one topic to keep the diversity but those wheels are no more then 5 minutes to design each - and I can only imagine using them in Snow Day...
If they allowed community stuff nobody would spend real money on the psyonix crap. That’s their whole reasoning for not allowing players to even design their own stuff. It’s about money not about the players.
07:03 This idea is nice and all, but the thing is, if you are the player targeted by psyonix, that plays competitive and buys the rocket pass, going INTO a futuristic themed season, you'd want to get a futuristic wheel right. Not the barbaric wild west from LAST season??? That would make more sense wouldn't it
The wheels were clean and they looked really good and smooth but then they ruined them with spikes, they could've remade it with removal of the spikes and it would've been really cool
So, what you are saying is that if Psyonix got rid of season rewards completely 83% of ranked players would still play ranked for the challenge and / or the fun, and probably some of those who grinded rank for rewards would still play without rewards.
What about a different background as a season reward. For example if i hit champ, my lobby background gets in a champ arena. I dont have to tell everybody what specific rank i am, everyone knows what rank i am when i play ranked, i play rank for myself 🤷♂️
I don't always make an effort to like videos even if I enjoy them and even if I'm reminded. Usually it's just not something I think about. But when your closing thought summed the entire problem statement up into players wanting to throw blame on everyone but themselves I had to hit that like button lol Good video!
There are *multiple problems* to last season's rewards. - They announced it very late compared to other F2P seasons. Both season 2 and season 3's were announced 3 weeks before the end date. Season 4 was less than a week. - The design doesn't change between ranks. As hilarious as the old season 13 one looks, at least they look different for each rank. - The design is too similar to the ruinator from the rocket pass. - The design itself, in a vacuum, arguably looks bad. To think last season was just the time I could finally get my friend to grind some ranked...
for ranked rewards, bronze silvers and gold should only get one item (like a decal or wheels), and plats should get two items (like a decal and wheels) diamonds get 3, champs get 4 and so on. Would be cool for an SSL to have a full ssl car
The chances that strategy backfires are too high for Psyonix to even consider it: the number of players that would grind to become better and get better rewards is nowhere near the number of players that would feel like they were being discriminated for being worse. It would be a cool idea to have a full [insert rank] car, but it'd have to be a possibility for everyone.
This is the one thing I don't understand about Psyonix. There is literally no point in grinding for your next rank if it doesn't look cooler even by a single bit. Come on Psyonix, you've gotta give better rewards for harder work.
but there is always a chance. and if you dont try you will cry later :D. its like a clickbait but worse. i wish i had season 1 supersonic legends decal it looks so sick imo. but im just C1.
When the new season started i asked in lobbies about the rewards because normally every other player would be using them. Five games in only one person told me they were wheels and they didnt know what they were called. I have yet to see anyone use them.
Dude I would LOVE THAT! Then I could actually use the items I want, I can only do that bc of bakkesmod rn but it doesn't show in game matches sadly, but it's still cool to use them anyway :]
Let me be the first to say, I kinda like the wheels. They could have been better, but they could have been worse, but I can't get myself to say "I hate them". They aren't that bad. Plus, look on the bright side, if they did explosions this season, they can't do it twice and do it in season 5, so far looking to be the best season yet. And the push for UE5, makes sense why the wheels aren't highly detailed or took long.
I was grinding for my first ever gc titel this season (and I got it). But when i saw these wheels I knew that the title was the only thing I would ever use.
I started on f2p season 2, and I loved season 2's and season 3's rewards. Have been using them every since I got them. However season 4's rewards were just so low effort, it's literally just a picture of the rank slapped onto some wheels, so I don't think I will ever use them.
I like the wheels and thought it was cool that they're a combination of the ruinators and haunted hoss wheels. Sticking with the seasonal theme on the reward was cool, but I do sympathize with those that grinded specifically for the reward as these probably are a let down for them.
What if Psyonix gave you the car you've played most with that season but with special colouring for the rank you got, say a gold octane or a diamond dominus. I think that would be great
Yeah, that would be cool but I think people would complain that the detail is too small. The titanium white octane is very popular and expensive though so...
Anything that requires them to design more than one thing would blow the measly budget that they put towards their players. They were too busy trying to find out how to sell alpha boost to 12 year olds to care about their players.
I am still convinced that next season Psyonix should release Engine noises for season rewards just to mess with the community. Also, literally every season sees backlash when the rewards are announced. Personally, I kinda just wish they would stop making them. Just give people titles for the rank they got... thats it.
I never have complained about the season rewards, but I have been in diamond for months and finally poked through champ peaking at champ 2 and was excited for anything at that point... except what we got. Those wheels look extremely simplified and I even tried finding some kind of look that goes with it but failed. It's unfortunate but just gonna have to keep up the grind.
Psyonix could just make multiple options to choose from such as different styles of wheels that you can choose or an option to pick a goal explosion, a trail, or a topper. Stuff like that would probably eliminate the toxicity about these rewards.
I remember getting the normal banners alongside the dragon banners and thinking "why give us these boring versions when clearly the dragons look so much more interesting." Anyone that hated on those dragon banners back then only hated them because they were something other than wheels or boost. They were an introduction to a new customization, I reckon if psyonix had released those banners one season later there wouldnt have been nearly as much backlash, cuz we wouldve at least expected it.
Psyonix can’t really win though. If they make items with loads of effort, people hardly use them. And if they don’t put much effort into the items, they get backlash because it’s just lazy. They also have to come up with a different design each season, basically like going through a dusty storm.
As someone who uses bakkesmod for my car designs, its funny to see when people complain about stuff like this as I dont need to grind at all to unlock them lol.
can you please make a video about air roll . like , normal and dirictional air roll . how and when to use it and how to train it. i am just to stupid to understand it and your is by far the best for tutorials lol
They have a saturation problem too, theres so many wheels in the game now its very hard for them to make something that doesnt get complained about as being the same. Still using my crimson sunbursts and sky blue chakrams. Says a lot about the development vector when the first wheels they released are still my favorite.
i usually just enjoy competing and getting better and season rewards are just a bonus which sometimes i like. these wheels actually got a response from me to my friends when i saw them. they suck real bad. usually i wouldnt care but they suck so bad before id even seen any reddit post i was like “the community is gonna light them up for this.”
I think one of the main reasons as well is the sudden change in style, most ranked rewards looked cool but also simple, now we suddenly get this polarizing design that clearly wouldnt fit on most car designs, and thus most people wouldnt use at all Combined with the fact that all of them are the same except for the color and ranked logo
Saw someone rocking their silver dragon banner today and was impressed by this new item I had never seen. A couple hours later it's featured in this video.
Hey wayton! Just want to thank you, Sunless, and Virge, I just hit Champ and all of you guys really helped me get there. Hopefully we'll get better rewards this new season lmao.
I grinded for the rewards as an objective means of identifying my skill level. If I can win enough games in that rank, I feel that I am legitimately that rank. If I get in and fall out and can't attain the rewards, I don't belong there yet. I don't mind the wheels for my blue team car since I got platinum, but it doesn't go with my red team car at all. That's a bit disappointing that I get rewards that don't fit half of the time. I also got unlucky in that I played in a previous season that gave out wheels, quit for a few years, then came back and got wheels again.
honestly if they removed the png rank image on the wheels and remove the spikes but kept the colour in the middle ( whatever rank u are ) i think it would be wayyyyy better
Haha it’s bad when you can improve a design just by *removing* design aspects. To require that you can’t just design something poorly, you have to design something good and then nigh intentionally ruin it.
Yep, the toxic "End Season Grind" basically guarantees that no one is happy with rewards. I think they'd honestly be better just doing fruity titles every season with some Import/Exotic/BM drops depending on ranking. 1 drop Bronze to Gold, 2 drops Plat to Champ, and 3 for GC/SS.
TBH I dunno why banners aren't in the reward cycle every season. It seems so logical that Banners are a reward to show your rank without touching your cars look. Further have varying banners and something from the ingame cosmetic stuff such as wheels or decals only has benefits from my pov.
I honestly respect this move by Psyonix. If people complain every time you put effort into making something, why bother continuing to make the effort? I've always liked the idea of ranked rewards and they're a nice way to give people something to show for their hard work, but honestly almost no one consistently uses them. I'd rather Psyonix focus their efforts elsewhere on things I actually care about
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@@ignDart hi
I think the dragon banner criticism is just a silent majority type situation, where the majority of people who liked it just said nothing/didn't say much about it but the minority who disliked it were very outspoken about it
This was the first time I’ve seen those banners and they look fucking sick i with I had them
Honestly. I understand the wheels they are garbage. But a fuckin dragon on a banner. Those kids need a hobby outside the gaming chair
This is why you should disregard Reddit
I’m annoyed cos I had some of the dragon banners and now I don’t
Yup, since the internet started, the outspoken minority has ruined so much great media and culture.
Imagine being Toxic af all through season 4 ranked for wheels like that😭
Imagine being toxic at all, what a sad life ;p
@@mathiasd5300 cry
@@mathiasd5300 Exactly, behind every toxic player, I imagine a fat 12 year old kid with no friends... Then I start feeling kinda bad for him
@@Loo_Kah that’s smart
@@DBTHEPLUG I'm pretty sure toxic players cry a lot more than I do, me I'm having fun at least :)
I've never been big on season rewards. Either I'm wearing an item achieved by hitting the rank everyone else in the lobby is in or above....or I'm showing off that I dropped out of that rank? It feels like having your high school diploma framed in your college dorm room.
they’re only really best for showing off in casual or extra modes
My reason for using them: I earned it. Even when they don’t look great I still use it, i build a whole car around my rewards. It’s MY achievement, and i want to use what I earned. I don’t use it the entire season and i switch cars around a lot anyways, but I like using what i have.
It isn’t showing off, it’s appreciating my progress from my start rank of silver.
That comparison 😂😂😂
the analogy is great lol
i use the rank body paints just because they look cool and shiny
It's not about showing off to other people jts about getting a reward to be proud of
These are my favourite types of videos reminds me of sunless story telling
We totally need that back. Maybe we go shout at sunless.
Same
I knoww
Yeah, just like the Kronovi or BDS
@@realtechhacks I have good news for you. A few weeks ago, sunless said he is doing a new true story video.
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Last season i defended the S3 decals in the steam forums and i saw a ton of players using them in S4. Also, i really like many items from the new S5 rocket pass (which is better than the last one imo) and some of the new tourney rewards.
But these wheels are so ugly.. They just should rework them or give us a clean version.
I think most players above gold generally dont want to use wheels that have to much stuff on the tire so they start flickering when you use them - especially on Octane where the whole wheel is visible. I think psyonix should focus more on cleaner but stylish wheels that are actually useable in game.
Exactly I think psyonix doing too much (or not enough depends on how you look at it) if they just looked at most of the player base they'd realize that we prefer cleaner items
Yeah i would definitely use these wheels if they werent spiked and hat the rubber texture of the Hiro wheels
ye tbh only reason i got last seasons pass is that its essentially free.
i wonder if thats by design or they just havent noticed yet
Season 4 season reward reworks should be a clean tire, with the sides of the wheel looking exactly the same, without the logo.
They clean tho
Wayton: “Picture this”
Also Wayton: Proceeds to show a video.
it's an expression which means imagine this
@@potatothatplaysbrawlhalla152 I bet he knew that. It’s just a funny comment.
@@potatothatplaysbrawlhalla152 How does it help to just put the exact same phrase as a definition.
It's like saying "Watch this" means "See this". It's the same thing, so yeah, they mean the same, but it doesn't exactly add anything to the conversation.
people here dont know what a joke is
It doesn’t matter what season we’re in or the release timing of the rewards, we’re disappointed when the rewards suck.
@@BroletariatRL thats cool too, good luck next season bro!
@@BroletariatRL is no one getting the point?.. if the rewards were cool enough that people would want them … which is the whole reason they are put in.. atleast put effort to make them valuable
I grind for the progress and for the rank (to get better at the game), not for the rewards 🤔
My words... Thats why Always find it super funny how people cry every single season xD
Same. It’s almost the same as the people who watch RLCS purely for the drops. Like dawg, watching this can make you better. Just like grinding for rank can make you better.
Guess some people need flashy incentives to improve…? 🤷🏻♂️
@@juxi1718 omfg same. Nobody even uses these items after a while aswell and people grind for it
Same
@@BroletariatRL Heck yeah, dawg. Make them proud :D
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Woah woah woah… there’s a difference between being disappointed in the type of reward we get and how the actual reward looks
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Yes.
I actually love the season 5 dragon banners theyre dope imo and i dont use mine but i like them a lot
I still use Mine and have done since i got it, i love it
I started the season after and have wanted one so bad ever since. I was honestly shocked to hear about the controversy years later. They look sick and I always see them used over the plain ones.
The dragon banners are way cool I think people just get salty to be salty. I think I was diamond then
The season reward from season 5 were the best because you had a form of evolution, I don't care if the reward have the logo of my rank in it. I just want something that have a form of evolution !
yeah same thing with the dragon banners I used bronze silver or gold cause I liked them
Yeah I agree. I’d rather the rewards be unique instead of being confined to the rank logos. It would be cool if they made new items similar to the tournament rewards
4:50 no, I believe it’s because we’ve had the proverbial sand thrown in our face with the more recent season rewards that we finally realized we were nitpicking over arguably pretty cool rewards and they’re nothing at all bad compared to the let down that the last few season’s rewards have been.
The standard for season rewards has decreased sharply and we just didn’t understand how truly bad it could be.
Wayton could literally talk about grass and dirt for a video and it would still be interesting and fun to watch.
I think they should develop a ranked reward for every item category and let the player pick which one they want.
OMG those banners are lit. how could anyone hate them
I think the problem with the dragon banners was awarding them at the same time they rolled out banners in general. So everybody who was maybe hoping for something to give their car a little extra flash instead had to absorb that this whole new feature was going to be a part of the game. They weren't hoping for a new feature, they were hoping for a better version of what they already had.
I loved season 8's goal explosion. To me, they all looked awesome and are my favorite reward to this day
Honestly if they just took the spikes away they would look so much better. It wouldn’t be the best wheels we ever saw but they’d be better
The Problem ist not the grind for the rank rewards, but the point in being at a certain rank encourages people to built an massive ego combined with Fear of losing that rank. Both this Ends up in missing self-reflection of playstyle and toxicity (which then will be answered with even more toxicity by other players)
damn that's actually a good point
It's mainly all you TH-camrs fault for making everyone feel like they can't be proud of any goal they score in platinum so they just quit
I grind each season to get my rewards, and then i spend the rest of the season with a little bit less stress. I never use the rewards, but still. I want them. I'll feel empty without that season rewards.
Plus, having each seasons rewards is a good way to track your progress because to can see how well you did each season.
oh i just play private matches with all-star bots i been doing that for a year
@@low-endlaptopuser4302 LUL
I wish they would Release an evolving item the more goals or assists you do. Kinda like the lvl 100/110 rewards in Apex legends.
i would not like this
For the first time ever I got my grandchamp rewards.... I have never been SO disappointed....
After hearing the info about the banners, I'm convinced that these wheels will be semi-popular in the future. The reason I think so is because compared to previous season rewards, these stand out. Try-hards and people that like clean cars won't use them, but low ranked player and trolls definitely will.
No ons is using them.
@@cortezwicio3669 true lmao
I'm a try hard when it comes to playing the game, but fking items??? Grow the fk up use whatever the fk you want, don't let ppl drag you down just bc of a fking wheel, like wow I'm commiting a fking crime by using wheels that might not be as cool as others big fking deal
this is why i love the way league does it. everyone knows it's going to be a victorious skin, just a matter of what random champ it's gonna be. I would appreciate that in rocket league. I could be wheels, decal, banner, anything. but make it same every year and spend the season putting in effort to make it always great
I started playing RL in the midst of se.3 (2021), so this is all new to me. I bought a se.4 pass, not really knowing what I'd be getting, or what to expect. I learned a lot, really quick. While I'm not dissatisfied with the season rewards, I'm also not excited over them. I like the general wheel style, and I'll use them, but I don't think I'd miss them if they disappeared from my items.
Personally I don't care about season rewards, all I want the devs to do is fix that bug where you cant do anything after a game ends!
These videos are great. If only they put as much effort into the rewards, as you put into videos.
For old season 5 imagine 5 groups of people. People that don't intend on using the reward and don't care what it is, people that don't intend on using the reward but want it to be something they *could* use, people that *will* use the reward but *don't* care what it is, people that *will* use the reward and *do* care what it is, and people that might use the reward (undecided). Out of all these groups, the first two will likely never use the reward unless it matches their loadout already. This would only be realistic for the dragon banner as the generic one doesn't really match anything in particular. People who want the reward as something they *could* use will be very vocal about not getting good rewards but will be the last people to actually use them, so it makes sense that the dragon banner saw more use when you think of it like this
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That is actually very well thought out and kind of puts a huge hole in the premise of this video.
I really want to know how many people want to get to the next rank because of the rewards. I feel like 99% of the motivation to get to next rank, comes from just wanting to get better. The rewards are just a little side thing nobody cares too much about
I find it hilarious, I only played about 12 games in comp 2s, maybe 4 games in 3s and never played comp again last season, so I got no rewards. I'm really glad I didn't spend time doing ranked.
I love your storytelling. Thank you!
Dragon banners looked great. People were just disappointed they received banners instead of something they could put on their cars.
The current wheels will still be considered garbage in 10 years.
exactly. Those banners slap. Unfortunately I don't have one, but i'd still be using it. It's a frickin DRAGON.
How about community made stuff? I found a lot of great looking decals, goal explosions and more out there which are sadly only usable with bakkesmod. I would like to have a vote on 5 different things and whatever gets the most likes will be taken as the new season reward - but with the rank based design. They could even pick one topic to keep the diversity but those wheels are no more then 5 minutes to design each - and I can only imagine using them in Snow Day...
That’s a great idea!
Psyonix already have some this with a new decal. The most viewed one for made into an actual decal
If they allowed community stuff nobody would spend real money on the psyonix crap. That’s their whole reasoning for not allowing players to even design their own stuff. It’s about money not about the players.
07:03 This idea is nice and all, but the thing is, if you are the player targeted by psyonix, that plays competitive and buys the rocket pass, going INTO a futuristic themed season, you'd want to get a futuristic wheel right. Not the barbaric wild west from LAST season??? That would make more sense wouldn't it
"the higher rank you are, the cooler items you get" *cries in season 4 ranked rewards*
Everyone would complain that the coolest stuff goes to only like 5% of players. Basically everyone's gonna complain almost no matter what.
08:09 OH MY GOD THATS MY PETITION LMFAO AHAHAHAHAHAAH
I grinded to get champ and after seeing the rewards I haven’t even logged in to collect them. So Disappointing
The wheels were clean and they looked really good and smooth but then they ruined them with spikes, they could've remade it with removal of the spikes and it would've been really cool
So, what you are saying is that if Psyonix got rid of season rewards completely 83% of ranked players would still play ranked for the challenge and / or the fun, and probably some of those who grinded rank for rewards would still play without rewards.
I know I would, sometimes you want a challenge and a sweaty lobby
I thought you were gonna talk about left always goes first when doing a kickoff
What about a different background as a season reward. For example if i hit champ, my lobby background gets in a champ arena. I dont have to tell everybody what specific rank i am, everyone knows what rank i am when i play ranked, i play rank for myself 🤷♂️
Yo wayton, tell psyonix about it if u like the idea
Good video, well done on the editing :D!
Jon Sandman’s reaction tho 😂
I don't always make an effort to like videos even if I enjoy them and even if I'm reminded. Usually it's just not something I think about. But when your closing thought summed the entire problem statement up into players wanting to throw blame on everyone but themselves I had to hit that like button lol Good video!
These wheels went straight into the archive for me.
same here
There are *multiple problems* to last season's rewards.
- They announced it very late compared to other F2P seasons. Both season 2 and season 3's were announced 3 weeks before the end date. Season 4 was less than a week.
- The design doesn't change between ranks. As hilarious as the old season 13 one looks, at least they look different for each rank.
- The design is too similar to the ruinator from the rocket pass.
- The design itself, in a vacuum, arguably looks bad.
To think last season was just the time I could finally get my friend to grind some ranked...
My theory is they announced it late cus if they announced it a couple weeks before no one would play the end of the season.
Would also love to get rewards for hitting challenges like 200 aerial goals, epic saves, assists etc.
Yo, I actually was super excited when I saw that I would be getting these wheels. I'm surprised that most people were displeased
for ranked rewards, bronze silvers and gold should only get one item (like a decal or wheels), and plats should get two items (like a decal and wheels) diamonds get 3, champs get 4 and so on. Would be cool for an SSL to have a full ssl car
The chances that strategy backfires are too high for Psyonix to even consider it: the number of players that would grind to become better and get better rewards is nowhere near the number of players that would feel like they were being discriminated for being worse.
It would be a cool idea to have a full [insert rank] car, but it'd have to be a possibility for everyone.
you are so underrated keep going man!
This is the one thing I don't understand about Psyonix. There is literally no point in grinding for your next rank if it doesn't look cooler even by a single bit.
Come on Psyonix, you've gotta give better rewards for harder work.
but there is always a chance. and if you dont try you will cry later :D. its like a clickbait but worse.
i wish i had season 1 supersonic legends decal it looks so sick imo. but im just C1.
When the new season started i asked in lobbies about the rewards because normally every other player would be using them. Five games in only one person told me they were wheels and they didnt know what they were called. I have yet to see anyone use them.
They should really add a Competitive Coin that you could spend on a Competitive Shop for special rewards from that season or just general items
Dude I would LOVE THAT! Then I could actually use the items I want, I can only do that bc of bakkesmod rn but it doesn't show in game matches sadly, but it's still cool to use them anyway :]
That sign off line is savagely accurate! 🤣🤣🤣👏👏👏👏
Let me be the first to say, I kinda like the wheels. They could have been better, but they could have been worse, but I can't get myself to say "I hate them". They aren't that bad.
Plus, look on the bright side, if they did explosions this season, they can't do it twice and do it in season 5, so far looking to be the best season yet. And the push for UE5, makes sense why the wheels aren't highly detailed or took long.
The wheels are so much better than the boost from a couple seasons ago I think
yooo, thanks for inlcuding my comment in the video at 2:18 :)
I was grinding for my first ever gc titel this season (and I got it). But when i saw these wheels I knew that the title was the only thing I would ever use.
I started on f2p season 2, and I loved season 2's and season 3's rewards. Have been using them every since I got them. However season 4's rewards were just so low effort, it's literally just a picture of the rank slapped onto some wheels, so I don't think I will ever use them.
There were some really good alternative designs from the community, surprised to not see any of them here actually!
It feels weird knowing that the dragon banners are 4 years old now, whats even weirder is that im still plat after 4 years of playing rocket league
I like the wheels and thought it was cool that they're a combination of the ruinators and haunted hoss wheels. Sticking with the seasonal theme on the reward was cool, but I do sympathize with those that grinded specifically for the reward as these probably are a let down for them.
Agreed
I think the reason it goes up over time because the season rewards get worse and worse so we lower what we consider good lol.
What if Psyonix gave you the car you've played most with that season but with special colouring for the rank you got, say a gold octane or a diamond dominus. I think that would be great
Yeah, that would be cool but I think people would complain that the detail is too small. The titanium white octane is very popular and expensive though so...
Anything that requires them to design more than one thing would blow the measly budget that they put towards their players. They were too busy trying to find out how to sell alpha boost to 12 year olds to care about their players.
The saddest thing is that the first season that I get diamond rewards, I’m granted with this behemoth
last 15 seconds are just best of the whole video 😂
I am still convinced that next season Psyonix should release Engine noises for season rewards just to mess with the community. Also, literally every season sees backlash when the rewards are announced. Personally, I kinda just wish they would stop making them. Just give people titles for the rank they got... thats it.
I never have complained about the season rewards, but I have been in diamond for months and finally poked through champ peaking at champ 2 and was excited for anything at that point... except what we got. Those wheels look extremely simplified and I even tried finding some kind of look that goes with it but failed. It's unfortunate but just gonna have to keep up the grind.
Psyonix could just make multiple options to choose from such as different styles of wheels that you can choose or an option to pick a goal explosion, a trail, or a topper. Stuff like that would probably eliminate the toxicity about these rewards.
nah this would never work cause if they made more than 1 cool option, people would complain about only choosing one
Haha that would require them to put effort into their game and design multiple items XD they won’t do that shit.
I remember getting the normal banners alongside the dragon banners and thinking "why give us these boring versions when clearly the dragons look so much more interesting." Anyone that hated on those dragon banners back then only hated them because they were something other than wheels or boost. They were an introduction to a new customization, I reckon if psyonix had released those banners one season later there wouldnt have been nearly as much backlash, cuz we wouldve at least expected it.
Bro this man is gonna get ssl someday
Psyonix can’t really win though. If they make items with loads of effort, people hardly use them. And if they don’t put much effort into the items, they get backlash because it’s just lazy. They also have to come up with a different design each season, basically like going through a dusty storm.
As someone who uses bakkesmod for my car designs, its funny to see when people complain about stuff like this as I dont need to grind at all to unlock them lol.
Your videos are just perfect thanks for the uploads :)
I mean those dragon banners are pretty random but they are not bad
1:33 - 1:45 is pure comedy gold 😂😂
That last claim that rocket league players only blame everything else except themselves is very true
can you please make a video about air roll . like , normal and dirictional air roll . how and when to use it and how to train it. i am just to stupid to understand it and your is by far the best for tutorials lol
Imagine sitting at your computer staring at the monitor for 9 hours a day everyday just for some white wheels
They have a saturation problem too, theres so many wheels in the game now its very hard for them to make something that doesnt get complained about as being the same.
Still using my crimson sunbursts and sky blue chakrams. Says a lot about the development vector when the first wheels they released are still my favorite.
I dont even play ranked for the rewards, tbh. I really just play ranked as i like seeing my progression and growth as a player 😂
"Throw blame around on everyone else BUT yourself!" 😂😂 ain't that the truth!
i usually just enjoy competing and getting better and season rewards are just a bonus which sometimes i like. these wheels actually got a response from me to my friends when i saw them. they suck real bad. usually i wouldnt care but they suck so bad before id even seen any reddit post i was like “the community is gonna light them up for this.”
Here for Season 6.
I think one of the main reasons as well is the sudden change in style, most ranked rewards looked cool but also simple, now we suddenly get this polarizing design that clearly wouldnt fit on most car designs, and thus most people wouldnt use at all
Combined with the fact that all of them are the same except for the color and ranked logo
I’ve seen one person running them, as champ.
I where my champ reward wheels....
On my Scarab because a joke car needs joke wheels.
The variety in content is epic🔥🔥🔥
Saw someone rocking their silver dragon banner today and was impressed by this new item I had never seen. A couple hours later it's featured in this video.
Those dragon banners were cool. I wish i got one.
Was waiting for Wayton to talk about this🙏
Hey wayton! Just want to thank you, Sunless, and Virge, I just hit Champ and all of you guys really helped me get there. Hopefully we'll get better rewards this new season lmao.
I grinded for the rewards as an objective means of identifying my skill level. If I can win enough games in that rank, I feel that I am legitimately that rank. If I get in and fall out and can't attain the rewards, I don't belong there yet.
I don't mind the wheels for my blue team car since I got platinum, but it doesn't go with my red team car at all. That's a bit disappointing that I get rewards that don't fit half of the time. I also got unlucky in that I played in a previous season that gave out wheels, quit for a few years, then came back and got wheels again.
I feel like they were more focused on making the new season and last minute were like “oh shoot Carl hasn’t been here to make the season rewards!.”
honestly if they removed the png rank image on the wheels and remove the spikes but kept the colour in the middle ( whatever rank u are ) i think it would be wayyyyy better
Haha it’s bad when you can improve a design just by *removing* design aspects. To require that you can’t just design something poorly, you have to design something good and then nigh intentionally ruin it.
Yep, the toxic "End Season Grind" basically guarantees that no one is happy with rewards. I think they'd honestly be better just doing fruity titles every season with some Import/Exotic/BM drops depending on ranking. 1 drop Bronze to Gold, 2 drops Plat to Champ, and 3 for GC/SS.
TBH I dunno why banners aren't in the reward cycle every season. It seems so logical that Banners are a reward to show your rank without touching your cars look. Further have varying banners and something from the ingame cosmetic stuff such as wheels or decals only has benefits from my pov.
I honestly respect this move by Psyonix. If people complain every time you put effort into making something, why bother continuing to make the effort? I've always liked the idea of ranked rewards and they're a nice way to give people something to show for their hard work, but honestly almost no one consistently uses them. I'd rather Psyonix focus their efforts elsewhere on things I actually care about
people use rewards that don't look like some high intern made it in 30 seconds
like the s1 decals especially the SSL one everybody loved it
yeah i also cant see why anyone would say its wild west themed when back in those days they clearly didnt have spiked wheels
I love these type of vids PLEASE DO MORE Like this!!! Keep up the good work!!!!!!!!!!
When the video starts with "The story of Rocket League's". I know that's gonna be good.