Tim, agree with you on the rapture and tribulation. I have been all over the map on that one. I finally years ago while pastoring came to the conclusion of just focusing on Christ and letting God do what He will do. It saved me a lot of study time just to not worry about when it will happen but knowing it will. I prepare myself for whatever happens by staying as close to Him in relationship as I can. Thanks for all you do.
Scofield, Dake and Ruckman were ONE man doing a Bible touting their views. Scofield was over 100 years ago and not too nuts but you're on your own with the other two. This was a fantastic vid and I saved it so my grandchildren can see it. They think the trib is NOW. Reading the Bible might help them.
I have one just like yours but in good shape. I got it mid 1980’s. The text is small but some of his lists of various things are useful. I don’t use the commentary and like study Bibles that are more like the Thompson Chain. I don’t want other peoples theological perspectives to be my primary teacher on what scripture is saying. I prefer to deeply study, read and reread Scripture, pray and allow the Holy Spirit to guide me. I believe the Bible to be the literal Word of God but recognize that humans are fallible. Humility, confession, spiritual discernment, and a teachable spirit are needed to learn from the Holy Spirit. Also focus on the elemental gospel and not trivial peripheral issues helps maintain unity ( not uniformity). Someday we will all know as we are fully known. As a side-note. One of my favorite study aids is the Strongs Exhaustive Concordance. I would like to study Greek and Hebrew as I believe it would aid my personal study
Dake's, Schofield, and Ruckman all had some serious interpretation issues. Dake seems to be influenced by the latter-rain heressy. The Assembly used to require strict adherence to Despensational eschatology.
Scofield also held to a pre-Adamic race and the “Gap Theory” of Creation. There were also scandals in his life kind of like Dake. Interesting. Great video, thanks Tim.
Also I have the following study bibles,: John Macarthur, ESV NIV grace and truth and the Reformation study bible, and the Jimmy Swaggart study bible, but there is nothing as great as the Dake Annotated Reference Bible.. I would recommend it to anyone.
I vary along the Eschatological spectrum BUT if I were still a Rapturist, I'd be Pre-Wrath, believing that the Wrath starts after the Seventh Trumpet with the Seven Vials, which could perhaps be very late in the Tribulation.
Can someone please explain to me why knowing your position about the Rapture matters? Or why it matters whether a pre-Adamic race existed? Or why it matters that the earth is one age or another age? I hear arguments over this things all of the time, and I just don't get why it matters. Yes, there are many Truths one should settle and become real clear on. The Holy Spirit is for today, for instance. Why on earth would Jesus tell the disciples to expect a Helper/Guide over and over again if it wasn't for everyone? Why would Paul give lessons on how to clarify the service with the use of the Gifts of the Spirit if it weren't for today? However, C'mon, a race existing before Adam? It makes no difference to me.
Brother, brother Dake believed in 5 orders of the 1st resurrection. He gives at least 2 to 3 scriptures to prove every point of doctrine. As far as he and picking up a girl and carrying her across the state line , all of us have within our corrupt nature have the tendency to do much worse if it were not for the baptism in the Holy Ghost and being baptized in the name of Jesus Christ for the remission of sins.
Great video. I have a Dake and it is definitely out there, so I really don't use it. As to eschatology, specifically Revelation I adhere to partial preterism.
The Dake Bible is fascinating! Like you, I would NOT recommend this bible to new Bible students, nor as a primary or even secondary study bible. Having said that, while I am wary of the sins of his youth, because his wife stayed with him, I think he probably repented. I was Pentecostal Holiness from 1985 to about 1995. My bibles were the KJV Thompson Chain, the NASB 77 Open Bible, and the NKJV. I could never get into the NIV. The Amplified Bible I found annoying after a while. After graduating from our Bible College, I did an in-depth study of Eschatology and left classic Dispensationalism for Covenantalism. I was Classic Premillennial at first, but for 3 decades now I have been Amillennial. Being Dispensationalist or Covenantalist is not a salvation issue. I do take issue (only in friendly and charitable ways) with the notion that classic Covenantalism is Replacement Theology. I am only giving reasons why Covenantalism is not Replacement Theology. I don't debate Dispensationalists unless they accuse me personally of Replacement Theology. 1) in Jeremiah, God promises a New Covenant no like the Old Covenant, where the law is written on hearts. 2) God divorced Israel. 3) Israel as a nation, not as individuals, rejected the Messiah of promise. 4) The Olivet Discourse states the Temple would be destroyed and other things, namely that they would see Jesus Christ come on the clouds at that time. 5) Jesus Christ did not start over with Gentiles when he chose the 12 Apostles, with Matthias replacing Judas. The 12 and the 70 were all Jews. 6) Paul preached to the Jews first, then the Gentiles. 7) I take the view that Revelation was written before 70 AD / CE. That is because the Temple seems to still be standing in Revelation. 8) I believe clearer parts of scripture should be interpreted first before attempting to interpret Apocalyptic scripture. I believe the Beast is Nero Caesar, and wars and rumors of wars refers to the Roman Civil War(s) that took place after Nero was no longer Emperor. Roman history has been a hobby since my teens, and especially since my 30s. 9) Covenantal Premillenialists Charles Haddon Spurgeon and R. A. Torrey both prayed for Israel and Jews. Torrey hung out with Dispensationalists. 10, there have been Pre,A and Post-Millennialists since the 2nd Century. Dispensationalism begins with Dr. John Darby in the early 1800s and doesn't become popular in the United States until after the Civil War. Zionism is founded as a political ideology by secular atheist socialist Jew Theodore Herzl circa 1850. I can't blame European Jews for wanting their own homeland because of European Anti-Semitism. Jews, Christians, and Muslims lived fairly peacefully under the Sunni Turkish Caliphate, which otherwise was just an Empire on the decline. They allowed European Jews to migrate to the Holy Land. It wasn't until the British Empire captured the Holy Land that major problems began to occur. The tendency is that Dispensationalist Christian Zionists will back the Israeli government at the expense of Arab Muslims and Christians no matter which faction of Israelis is in power. Many Orthodox Jews on the one-hand and many secular Jews don't even support the hardline governments when in power. Most Christian Zionists support the more hardline members of the Israeli government. It is the hardline Zionists that wanted Hamas in power because no country could ever support Hamas. Thus, the UN agreement that established Israel called for Two States is kept from becoming a reality because the longer the Arabs are dominated, the more recruits join Hamas. Its a vicious cycle. We may be headed toward World War III as a result. Christian Zionists, based on the Classic Dispensationalist hermeneutic, won't allow two states because they fear its Anti-Christ who will broker the peace treaty. At least, that's how I was trained to think in the 1980s. What if Nero is the Anti-Christ, and Jesus Christ came on the clouds in 70 AD (that's not the Second Coming). Then, there is no Pre-Tribulation Rapture. So, the devastation of a regional or World war will cause worldwide suffering. That's where we are headed. We could have a limited nuclear exchange that devastates some Middle Eastern Countries. Others would respond in kind to Israel. This will happen because most of the US government will back Netanyahu no matter what, even though he is not popular in his own country, if one reads Israeli newspapers like Haaretz. If there is no Rapture (since Jesus coming on the clouds believed even by some early Church fathers to have occurred in 70 AD), the world has to live through the consequences of decisions by the secular hardline Zionist government currently in power in Israel, backed by the majority of the United States government. Look what happened when the mission in Afghanistan turned from destroying al-Qaeda to Nationbuilding, and the US government pushed for removing the CIA-installed Saddam by false Intel on chemical weapons? The Military Industrial Complex made lots of money. But, Iraq doesn't want us. Afghanistan was a money drain as well.. Tens of trillions of dollars of debt later, and we have the same thing in Ukraine and the Middle East! Its going to take the Second Coming of Jesus Christ to get us out of the mess. But, no one will be spared suffering by the Rapture if Jesus already came on the clouds and the Gospel is the New Covenant, not a parenthesis in time. This comment is way to long, but I'm trying to point out what happens if Covenantalism was the correct Eschatology all along. I am subscribed and like your videos. Disagreement on Eschatology doesn't change that.
Hi Brother Tim, Great video. The question of Pre-Trib, Mid-Trib, Post-Trib does cause some wonderment. I have been Pan-Trib most of my life. When Jesus comes it will all pan out. Learning about the Jewish Feast Days is a great help. Jewish Feast Days [Moedim] Lev Chapter 23 The Feast Days are a This is a pattern of Jesus’ earthly ministry. Spring Feast: These were fulfilled in the same year. Nisan 14th Passover Jesus died for our sins. Nisan 15th unleavened Bread. No more sin. Nisan 17th First Fruits (Barley Harvest) Jesus first fruit of the resurrected. Sivan 6th Pentecost (First Fruits of Wheat Harvest) Holy Spirit empowers the Church and begins Church Age. Fall Feast: These will be fulfilled over a 7 year period. Tishri 1st Feast of Trumpets Rapture (Tribulation begins) [1Co 15:52 “at the last trumpet”] Tishri 10th Yom Kippur Jews accept Jesus. Tishri 15th Feast of Tabernacles Millennial Reign begins. Praise Ye the Lord!!!
I have a Dake’s study Bible in my library, but I cannot recommend it even though I am ordained with the Assemblies of God. I am not supposed to “make an issue of it,” but I am an historic premillennialist. No one embraced the pre-trib rapture before Darby, and I believe the Bible does not teach it. I think George Eldon Ladd explains the rapture and millennium quite articulately. The A/G originally got its stand on the rapture from the Scofield Bible, and then read that into the “immanence” taught in the fundamental truths of the denomination. I know I am far from alone in my position.
I feel that Dake's theology isn't reliable. Dake didn't even know what the will of God was in Matt 7:21. His theology is just simply terrible and a waste of hard earned money. 😮 Stick with a good Scofield bible, it's the better of the two by far. Pentecostals may love Dake's bibles because the bible is actually based on a works based salvation, of another spirit, another gospel that Paul made clear in, 2 .Cor. 11:4-6; Gal.1:8,9; Gal.3:1-14. I'll keep my prestine Dake's bible as a novelty and as a reminder as well. 😮 Let the bible be the true source of our inspiration in accordance to 2Tim. 2:15. Dake's bible gets a 100 thumbs down. 👎😮
Tim, agree with you on the rapture and tribulation. I have been all over the map on that one. I finally years ago while pastoring came to the conclusion of just focusing on Christ and letting God do what He will do. It saved me a lot of study time just to not worry about when it will happen but knowing it will. I prepare myself for whatever happens by staying as close to Him in relationship as I can. Thanks for all you do.
Scofield, Dake and Ruckman were ONE man doing a Bible touting their views. Scofield was over 100 years ago and not too nuts but you're on your own with the other two. This was a fantastic vid and I saved it so my grandchildren can see it. They think the trib is NOW. Reading the Bible might help them.
Thank you for your honest responses.
Thank you for warning me
Pretty sure the COG sales the Dakes bible in their online book store. Im guessing because he was also pentecostal
I have one just like yours but in good shape. I got it mid 1980’s. The text is small but some of his lists of various things are useful. I don’t use the commentary and like study Bibles that are more like the Thompson Chain. I don’t want other peoples theological perspectives to be my primary teacher on what scripture is saying. I prefer to deeply study, read and reread Scripture, pray and allow the Holy Spirit to guide me. I believe the Bible to be the literal Word of God but recognize that humans are fallible. Humility, confession, spiritual discernment, and a teachable spirit are needed to learn from the Holy Spirit. Also focus on the elemental gospel and not trivial peripheral issues helps maintain unity ( not uniformity). Someday we will all know as we are fully known. As a side-note. One of my favorite study aids is the Strongs Exhaustive Concordance. I would like to study Greek and Hebrew as I believe it would aid my personal study
I have a Dakes mainly for part of my collection. But it's got some wild notes in it.
For real!
I’ve been thinking about the Dakes. I was looking for one because a former pastor used it. However, I wasn’t sure about it.
You have to know what you’re getting.
Dake's, Schofield, and Ruckman all had some serious interpretation issues. Dake seems to be influenced by the latter-rain heressy. The Assembly used to require strict adherence to Despensational eschatology.
They still do.
Scofield also held to a pre-Adamic race and the “Gap Theory” of Creation. There were also scandals in his life kind of like Dake. Interesting. Great video, thanks Tim.
And holds to a gap theory between 69th and 70th week of Daniel. Heretics gunna heretic.
Also I have the following study bibles,:
John Macarthur, ESV NIV grace and truth and the Reformation study bible, and the Jimmy Swaggart study bible, but there is nothing as great as the Dake Annotated Reference Bible..
I would recommend it to anyone.
Meh.
I vary along the Eschatological spectrum BUT if I were still a Rapturist, I'd be Pre-Wrath, believing that the Wrath starts after the Seventh Trumpet with the Seven Vials, which could perhaps be very late in the Tribulation.
That’s sort of where I land.
Can someone please explain to me why knowing your position about the Rapture matters? Or why it matters whether a pre-Adamic race existed? Or why it matters that the earth is one age or another age? I hear arguments over this things all of the time, and I just don't get why it matters. Yes, there are many Truths one should settle and become real clear on. The Holy Spirit is for today, for instance. Why on earth would Jesus tell the disciples to expect a Helper/Guide over and over again if it wasn't for everyone? Why would Paul give lessons on how to clarify the service with the use of the Gifts of the Spirit if it weren't for today? However, C'mon, a race existing before Adam? It makes no difference to me.
It can make a huge difference theologically, just not easy to explain in comments, and I’m not super interested in making a video addressing it.
Brother, brother Dake believed in 5 orders of the 1st resurrection.
He gives at least 2 to 3 scriptures to prove every point of doctrine.
As far as he and picking up a girl and carrying her across the state line , all of us have within our corrupt nature have the tendency to do much worse if it were not for the baptism in the Holy Ghost and being baptized in the name of Jesus Christ for the remission of sins.
So you justify his behavior with the fact that anyone can sin? Wow.
Great video. I have a Dake and it is definitely out there, so I really don't use it. As to eschatology, specifically Revelation I adhere to partial preterism.
I’d say most of us are partial. Some things clearly have already happened.
@@anickelsworthbiblereviews I am probably closer to full than partial. A great book is The apocalypse of John, a preterist commentary by Milton Terry.
Pre, mid, or post trib?? Personally, I’m officially pre trib. But in actuality, I’m PanTrib. It’s all going to pan out in the end.
Ha ha. I wish a had a nickel for every time I heard this one. 😁
The Dake Bible is fascinating! Like you, I would NOT recommend this bible to new Bible students, nor as a primary or even secondary study bible.
Having said that, while I am wary of the sins of his youth, because his wife stayed with him, I think he probably repented.
I was Pentecostal Holiness from 1985 to about 1995. My bibles were the KJV Thompson Chain, the NASB 77 Open Bible, and the NKJV. I could never get into the NIV. The Amplified Bible I found annoying after a while.
After graduating from our Bible College, I did an in-depth study of Eschatology and left classic Dispensationalism for Covenantalism. I was Classic Premillennial at first, but for 3 decades now I have been Amillennial.
Being Dispensationalist or Covenantalist is not a salvation issue. I do take issue (only in friendly and charitable ways) with the notion that classic Covenantalism is Replacement Theology.
I am only giving reasons why Covenantalism is not Replacement Theology. I don't debate Dispensationalists unless they accuse me personally of Replacement Theology.
1) in Jeremiah, God promises a New Covenant no like the Old Covenant, where the law is written on hearts.
2) God divorced Israel.
3) Israel as a nation, not as individuals, rejected the Messiah of promise.
4) The Olivet Discourse states the Temple would be destroyed and other things, namely that they would see Jesus Christ come on the clouds at that time.
5) Jesus Christ did not start over with Gentiles when he chose the 12 Apostles, with Matthias replacing Judas. The 12 and the 70 were all Jews.
6) Paul preached to the Jews first, then the Gentiles.
7) I take the view that Revelation was written before 70 AD / CE. That is because the Temple seems to still be standing in Revelation.
8) I believe clearer parts of scripture should be interpreted first before attempting to interpret Apocalyptic scripture. I believe the Beast is Nero Caesar, and wars and rumors of wars refers to the Roman Civil War(s) that took place after Nero was no longer Emperor. Roman history has been a hobby since my teens, and especially since my 30s.
9) Covenantal Premillenialists Charles Haddon Spurgeon and R. A. Torrey both prayed for Israel and Jews. Torrey hung out with Dispensationalists.
10, there have been Pre,A and Post-Millennialists since the 2nd Century. Dispensationalism begins with Dr. John Darby in the early 1800s and doesn't become popular in the United States until after the Civil War.
Zionism is founded as a political ideology by secular atheist socialist Jew Theodore Herzl circa 1850. I can't blame European Jews for wanting their own homeland because of European Anti-Semitism. Jews, Christians, and Muslims lived fairly peacefully under the Sunni Turkish Caliphate, which otherwise was just an Empire on the decline. They allowed European Jews to migrate to the Holy Land. It wasn't until the British Empire captured the Holy Land that major problems began to occur.
The tendency is that Dispensationalist Christian Zionists will back the Israeli government at the expense of Arab Muslims and Christians no matter which faction of Israelis is in power. Many Orthodox Jews on the one-hand and many secular Jews don't even support the hardline governments when in power. Most Christian Zionists support the more hardline members of the Israeli government. It is the hardline Zionists that wanted Hamas in power because no country could ever support Hamas. Thus, the UN agreement that established Israel called for Two States is kept from becoming a reality because the longer the Arabs are dominated, the more recruits join Hamas. Its a vicious cycle. We may be headed toward World War III as a result.
Christian Zionists, based on the Classic Dispensationalist hermeneutic, won't allow two states because they fear its Anti-Christ who will broker the peace treaty. At least, that's how I was trained to think in the 1980s.
What if Nero is the Anti-Christ, and Jesus Christ came on the clouds in 70 AD (that's not the Second Coming). Then, there is no Pre-Tribulation Rapture. So, the devastation of a regional or World war will cause worldwide suffering. That's where we are headed. We could have a limited nuclear exchange that devastates some Middle Eastern Countries. Others would respond in kind to Israel.
This will happen because most of the US government will back Netanyahu no matter what, even though he is not popular in his own country, if one reads Israeli newspapers like Haaretz.
If there is no Rapture (since Jesus coming on the clouds believed even by some early Church fathers to have occurred in 70 AD), the world has to live through the consequences of decisions by the secular hardline Zionist government currently in power in Israel, backed by the majority of the United States government.
Look what happened when the mission in Afghanistan turned from destroying al-Qaeda to Nationbuilding, and the US government pushed for removing the CIA-installed Saddam by false Intel on chemical weapons? The Military Industrial Complex made lots of money. But, Iraq doesn't want us. Afghanistan was a money drain as well.. Tens of trillions of dollars of debt later, and we have the same thing in Ukraine and the Middle East!
Its going to take the Second Coming of Jesus Christ to get us out of the mess. But, no one will be spared suffering by the Rapture if Jesus already came on the clouds and the Gospel is the New Covenant, not a parenthesis in time.
This comment is way to long, but I'm trying to point out what happens if Covenantalism was the correct Eschatology all along.
I am subscribed and like your videos. Disagreement on Eschatology doesn't change that.
Disagreement on Eschatology can’t divide us. I disagree with myself sometimes. 🤣🤣🤣
Hi Brother Tim, Great video. The question of Pre-Trib, Mid-Trib, Post-Trib does cause some wonderment. I have been Pan-Trib most of my life. When Jesus comes it will all pan out. Learning about the Jewish Feast Days is a great help.
Jewish Feast Days [Moedim] Lev Chapter 23
The Feast Days are a This is a pattern of Jesus’ earthly ministry.
Spring Feast: These were fulfilled in the same year.
Nisan 14th Passover Jesus died for our sins.
Nisan 15th unleavened Bread. No more sin.
Nisan 17th First Fruits (Barley Harvest) Jesus first fruit of the resurrected.
Sivan 6th Pentecost (First Fruits of Wheat Harvest) Holy Spirit empowers the Church and begins Church Age.
Fall Feast: These will be fulfilled over a 7 year period.
Tishri 1st Feast of Trumpets Rapture (Tribulation begins) [1Co 15:52 “at the last trumpet”]
Tishri 10th Yom Kippur Jews accept Jesus.
Tishri 15th Feast of Tabernacles Millennial Reign begins.
Praise Ye the Lord!!!
Yes! Our church spends a great deal of time working through the feasts and the prophetic significance.
I have a Dake’s study Bible in my library, but I cannot recommend it even though I am ordained with the Assemblies of God. I am not supposed to “make an issue of it,” but I am an historic premillennialist. No one embraced the pre-trib rapture before Darby, and I believe the Bible does not teach it. I think George Eldon Ladd explains the rapture and millennium quite articulately. The A/G originally got its stand on the rapture from the Scofield Bible, and then read that into the “immanence” taught in the fundamental truths of the denomination. I know I am far from alone in my position.
Indeed you are not alone.
Frederick K. Price back in the day, regarding Dake's slimy racial attitudes. Pre-Adamic race and a sexual scandal: new to me!!! WOWZER🔥🔥🔥🌹⭐🌹
No matter how good some of the content may be, it’s hard to overlook the man.
I thought this said Drake’s Study Bible 😂
I feel that Dake's theology isn't reliable. Dake didn't even know what the will of God was in Matt 7:21.
His theology is just simply terrible and a waste of hard earned money. 😮
Stick with a good Scofield bible, it's the better of the two by far.
Pentecostals may love Dake's bibles because the bible is actually based on a works based salvation, of another spirit, another gospel that Paul made clear in, 2 .Cor. 11:4-6; Gal.1:8,9; Gal.3:1-14.
I'll keep my prestine Dake's bible as a novelty and as a reminder as well. 😮 Let the bible be the true source of our inspiration in accordance to 2Tim. 2:15.
Dake's bible gets a 100 thumbs down. 👎😮
Out of context on the pre-Rapture reading in my opinion
What is out of context?
I disagree with your assessment of amillennialism.
That’s the beliefs in a nutshell. Things will get worse until the return of Christ.
I guess that explains why a deacon once told me that Dake said Jesus was a fair skinned, blonde, white guy with blue eyes.
He was a blatant racist.
A horrible Bible by a horrible person that should never have been in print to begin with.
Definitely hard to argue against this.
The racial issues alone in the notes are a deal breaker for me to even consider this bible. Thanks, but no thanks!
The ones I have are corrected and the family apologized, but i absolutely agree.