For 40k, it's in the price range of a new or light used Epic -W. I think 6k carbon dragon is still amazing camera, but dsmc2 body will put you in better place to move forward with reds future upgrade. it's just my opinion, congratulation on the new camera.
It wasn't just the camera though... It came with HELLA accessories and things, It wasn't just the body. Not to mention came with a built in motion mount accessory which alone is a $4k accessory.
Nice thought, but totally wrong --> as a filmmaker its a logical buisiness investment into your future career: Fans don't really matter (if u are not Pewdiepie) since most normies don't owe the equipment needed to really enjoy the full quality of RED-footage (or see the difference to a "consumer-camera") and the income they generate is marginal compared to the direct income of a production-job from a customer for shortfilm, commercials, music-clips, TV, etc. .. What matters is acquiring the job from the customer (since he is paying you big & directly) - And for that, good/HQ-gear helps alot and is for that a good selling point. Furthermore you won't acquire any good jobs in the professional industry without some "professional" Gear - because it's the standard, if you don't have it, u arn't able to compete on paper, as simple is that!! In addition u can charge ur customer rent or even rent it to third parties-productions.. The flexibility of owning a prof. HQ-Camera and to be ready to shoot at any given moment without having to loose time and money in searching/renting equipment ist worth gold! Finally REDs an Prof EQ of this lvl (Arri, Panavision, ...) don't really loose theire worth fast - so reselling to a good price won't be a problem - this camera is gonna be amortised faster than u think ;) If he still gets 8 paid jobs a month he should be able to have paid off the camera (500-1k rent per day for a Dragon depending on Country and rig, can be even more!!) after only 5-10 months with only the rent of the camera-equipment, not counting his earnings for his services as xxx ..! So yeahhh - its all about business and money my friend - sry to break ur fantasies...
congrats man! must feel really good to own one of the best cameras in the buisness! Personally looking to upgrade to the Canon 6D mark ii when it drops :)
Jake can you have a break down video in the future of all the accessory's you had to add to the red to make it a full rig? memory storage, monitor, lens etc.. kind of like what you added to the brain to make it shoot ready!
Crazy how fast technology becomes stagnate. This camera now is only 5k-8k some come fully rigged out. You can buy an arri Alexa now for 4k-12k depending on what you need it for but it's still the same quality. Great time right now for cinematographers 😊
would you ever consider doing a video on the post production workflow for your RED footage to give a good idea what's the process of record and capture and final product?
Yooo love your video's man keep up the good work here at Az, phx ready to start making some videos on my new Gh4 still need to save for the lens tho expensive 🤑
Congrats on the Dragon! My friend recently got his hands on the smaller Scarlet-W, and I have access to a Alexa Mini. What's the real difference between going RED or ARRI?
Should of got the Scarlet-W man! I love the new body and accessories. I always hated having to replace the cables and such for the old bodies. Still an awesome camera though that's for sure.
I am a DOP and have decided to shoot a bilingual movie using the Red Dragon 6k camera . The shooting is scheduled sometime by the end of this month . Very exited to hit the floors and try out the features.
Because the Epic-W to work with proper accessories is at least 50K. I initially ordered the epic-w 8k and it cost me 50k but they took so long on the order I cancelled it and then found this. And this package wasn't just the camera... It came with HELLA accessories and other add ons, It wasn't just the body. Not to mention came with a built in motion mount accessory which alone is a $4k accessory.
Josh S Wilkinson okaaay, cool didn't know that before. I always wanted to own a Red camera and I was about to purchase the Scarlet-w however, my market doesn't needs it so I dropped the idea of owing one. On the other hand I investing into the Fujinon MK lenses and I love them 👌🏻.
I don't understand, what makes this one cost double the price of all the online prices? Accessories? When I searched it out of curiosity I seen them all floating between 18-20k.
Thats for their cheapest versions which don't have the features of this camera and thats only for the "brain" when you buy the camera their starting price are a certain number but thats only for the housing. You then have to buy all the accessories to make it actually usable like the camera monitor, batteries, memory cards, handle, etc.
Bust your ass at a job you hate, save up money, buy camera , shoot video till you get paid regularly for it, quit job, then do what you love to do for a living.
I am torn.. as much as I would love to buy (and more so have the money to buy) a RED, the new GH5 with a good lens and the Atomos rig is a fraction of the cost and puts out really high end video quality. What is your take on a hobbyist who would like to get into doing some DP work at some point using something like the GH5 with LOG output to the Atomos in ProRes? I have spent a ton of time on comparison videos and while the RED and even BM have slightly better dynamic range (and shoot RAW vs 4:2:2 10 bit), I dont see a huge difference in the quality of the videos when the right settings, colors, etc are applied in post.
If you can afford it, RED all the way. It *crushes* the GH5. With that said, there's also cameras from Kinefinity, which provide RED-ish quality at indie-ish prices($4-8k).
so wait is this your way of cutting ur dp off? cos if u couldn't afford to pay him wit out the red then whats the difference since u own it now ? serious question
Hey! So im scouting for a Red. Im finally gonna buy my first Red in January since ill be moving out of NYC to Europe during that month. Want to start off strong. Should I purchase this one, or should I go for the Scarlet W ? ... Can you please share some knowledge?
Being such a bad business man and being here in southern Europe I would need like 2 lifetimes to be able to get one hahaha.... Seriously! Glad you worked your ass to treat yourself with that Lil jewel!
If you paid 40K for this no matter the hours you got robbed blind, Epic's with a dragon sensor second hand kitted out on RU go for 10-15K. Not sure why you didn't buy a DSMC2 also..?
=))) 6k its a lot of money for a newbie filmmaker ,anyway I respect you and in 5-10 years I wanna be where you are now.Now i shoot on a canon d700 and I will upgrade to a panasonig g7 for 4k videos.Whit experience and hard work I wanna see myself in 5 -10 years shooting on a Red like you.
Regilio Bouma as a DP your not keeping the footage unless you want to. The editor is going to need to HDD space. Also you can transcode the raw files to another codec for storage after your edit is done to save space.
i own Arri Amira from the age of 27...this red in 6k its crop...so...i want that 35mm look on 200fps..RED it's croped in 200...that's why i hate RED...and you can't compare a RED to an ARRI...simply you cant...
I JUST BOUGHT A RED!!!
TheBuffNerds I know you're not a DP and besides the price difference, is there a reason why you went with the dragon instead of the Epic?
I found this particular one upgraded with a lot of accessories for a great price. Hence why I went with this one.
TheBuffNerds makes sense! By the time you are done buying the accessories for the Epic, you'll easily be at 60k+. Good find!
For 40k, it's in the price range of a new or light used Epic -W. I think 6k carbon dragon is still amazing camera, but dsmc2 body will put you in better place to move forward with reds future upgrade. it's just my opinion, congratulation on the new camera.
It wasn't just the camera though... It came with HELLA accessories and things, It wasn't just the body. Not to mention came with a built in motion mount accessory which alone is a $4k accessory.
Congrats man crazy to see how far you've come from using just a budget DSLR to now owning a camera thats worth most Music video budgets awesome man
Many youtubers buy 40K cars to help themselves, but these guys buy a 40K camera just for the fans future entertainment. I respect that *A TON.* 👌🙏
Jade[d] thank ya!
Also to WOW their clients and artists - because they too are starting to know the industry standards in filmmaking gear.
True. Experience is worth a lot when looking for clients.
Nice thought, but totally wrong --> as a filmmaker its a logical buisiness investment into your future career:
Fans don't really matter (if u are not Pewdiepie) since most normies don't owe the equipment needed to really enjoy the full quality of RED-footage (or see the difference to a "consumer-camera") and the income they generate is marginal compared to the direct income of a production-job from a customer for shortfilm, commercials, music-clips, TV, etc. ..
What matters is acquiring the job from the customer (since he is paying you big & directly) - And for that, good/HQ-gear helps alot and is for that a good selling point.
Furthermore you won't acquire any good jobs in the professional industry without some "professional" Gear - because it's the standard, if you don't have it, u arn't able to compete on paper, as simple is that!!
In addition u can charge ur customer rent or even rent it to third parties-productions.. The flexibility of owning a prof. HQ-Camera and to be ready to shoot at any given moment without having to loose time and money in searching/renting equipment ist worth gold!
Finally REDs an Prof EQ of this lvl (Arri, Panavision, ...) don't really loose theire worth fast - so reselling to a good price won't be a problem - this camera is gonna be amortised faster than u think ;) If he still gets 8 paid jobs a month he should be able to have paid off the camera (500-1k rent per day for a Dragon depending on Country and rig, can be even more!!) after only 5-10 months with only the rent of the camera-equipment, not counting his earnings for his services as xxx ..!
So yeahhh - its all about business and money my friend - sry to break ur fantasies...
So fuckin true 🤦♂️ need to Invest in better things
congratulations man! 😍 I just purchased the sony as7ii but it's definitely a step up from my canon rebel t5i.
Nice!
Divineshot IG A7S II is an incredible image. I just hate the menus! Haha
Alex Barclay yeah! Hah and I also purchased the DNA Stabilizer, I'm still trying to get it balanced correctly! 😑
Hey man I use a canon rebel t5i, what are some things you like better about the a7sii ?
Hunter Wathen the low light capability, the built in stabilizer and the 4k footage, come to mind right away.
"...my little DSLR, the 1DMII" lmao!
i was like "ugh so unfortunate!" haha
Congrats on the camera I can't wait to see we have in store for the channel with it. I just hope 'getting a RED camera' doesn't become a trend.
very cool man! wishing you lots of amazing captures and success with your new tool! :)
congrats man! must feel really good to own one of the best cameras in the buisness! Personally looking to upgrade to the Canon 6D mark ii when it drops :)
Congrats Jakob you deserve it! You should make a tutorial about time managment and working so hard as you do!
Congrats man! Excited for more things to come from you bro. Just picked up a GH5. One day I'll get that RED. :)
whats A Dp
Yo good video guys! Keep on grinding and working 💯💯 and congrats on the camera
good luck man happy for you
That's awesome bro! Congrats!!!
thanks!
Curios to why you went 6k dragon over a Scarlet-w? Either way, Congrats! Got my Scarlet-W a few months ago and I'm in love!
Scarlet w trash over Dragon
Jake can you have a break down video in the future of all the accessory's you had to add to the red to make it a full rig? memory storage, monitor, lens etc.. kind of like what you added to the brain to make it shoot ready!
Crazy how fast technology becomes stagnate. This camera now is only 5k-8k some come fully rigged out. You can buy an arri Alexa now for 4k-12k depending on what you need it for but it's still the same quality. Great time right now for cinematographers 😊
would you ever consider doing a video on the post production workflow for your RED footage to give a good idea what's the process of record and capture and final product?
I bought a Dragon about a year and a half ago. Hate myself for doing it. You can get a super similar image from the Red Raven for about 30k cheaper.
Yooo love your video's man keep up the good work here at Az, phx ready to start making some videos on my new Gh4 still need to save for the lens tho expensive 🤑
so how do you deal with no AF and no focus puller assistant to pull focus
Congrats on the Dragon! My friend recently got his hands on the smaller Scarlet-W, and I have access to a Alexa Mini. What's the real difference between going RED or ARRI?
RoySFord it's all personal taste really and resolution
Should of got the Scarlet-W man! I love the new body and accessories. I always hated having to replace the cables and such for the old bodies. Still an awesome camera though that's for sure.
Sweet buy! Did you sell your C300 MK II? Never seen you shoot anything with it.
congrats man!
What do you guys recommend to edit on ?
congrats bro :)
I have been saving up for 1dx mark ii :)
love that camera!!
I am a DOP and have decided to shoot a bilingual movie using the Red Dragon 6k camera . The shooting is scheduled sometime by the end of this month . Very exited to hit the floors and try out the features.
Why not the 8k Epic-w which is cheaper for $30k ?
Hamad Almuftah I would bet for the slow motion without cropping. CF will do ~96 fps at Full frame, epic w crops in to super35 for the same fps
Because the Epic-W to work with proper accessories is at least 50K. I initially ordered the epic-w 8k and it cost me 50k but they took so long on the order I cancelled it and then found this. And this package wasn't just the camera... It came with HELLA accessories and other add ons, It wasn't just the body. Not to mention came with a built in motion mount accessory which alone is a $4k accessory.
Josh S Wilkinson okaaay, cool didn't know that before. I always wanted to own a Red camera and I was about to purchase the Scarlet-w however, my market doesn't needs it so I dropped the idea of owing one. On the other hand I investing into the Fujinon MK lenses and I love them 👌🏻.
TheBuffNerds that's a very good deal, congrats 🙏🏻👌🏻
Woah, I felt like you just got the c300 mk 2 a year ago...
1:35 why is he holding that up? It's not reflecting light at all right?
.... & im just trying to save up for the gh5
What lenses are you gonna pair it with?!
Youngvisionfilms Canon for now since that's what I own
TheBuffNerds oh okay! So it has an EF mount?
does it freeze up a lot when shooting?
ANT1PK no
Did you use the RED while filming the Pokémon Cypher 2016?
no
Ok, just checking. Congrats on the new camera.
I need to buy a second hand red dragon.. if you have please tell me.
Congrats!
Why did you buy the c300 mk ii?
dope what resolution are you gonna be shooting at? also how will you store the video content, upgrading hard drives?
Congrats.....=)--Looks like - there will be even more dope sh.....=)
I don't understand, what makes this one cost double the price of all the online prices? Accessories? When I searched it out of curiosity I seen them all floating between 18-20k.
Thats for their cheapest versions which don't have the features of this camera and thats only for the "brain" when you buy the camera their starting price are a certain number but thats only for the housing. You then have to buy all the accessories to make it actually usable like the camera monitor, batteries, memory cards, handle, etc.
I figured it was something along those lines. Amazing piece of equipment though, man.
what is music video at 1:10?
I have a question, so now that you have a red , do you still hire a dp?
Wait, I thought you bought a C300 MkII last year??
I did but I had sold it months back
TheBuffNerds ohhh ok
this dude spent more on a camera than my car FeelsGoodMan
Great! As a director you should always have your own tool at hand!
congratulations to you RED 👌
Eliot Alderson i hate society.Fsociety
canon mount?
I just bought a humble A7III... I hope could get one of these some day.
How do I get 40,000 dollars
Benjamin Patterson shoot, edit, share, repeat.
yup!
if you askin that question you dont need this cam
Bust your ass at a job you hate, save up money, buy camera , shoot video till you get paid regularly for it, quit job, then do what you love to do for a living.
BRB.. drooling over here
I am torn.. as much as I would love to buy (and more so have the money to buy) a RED, the new GH5 with a good lens and the Atomos rig is a fraction of the cost and puts out really high end video quality. What is your take on a hobbyist who would like to get into doing some DP work at some point using something like the GH5 with LOG output to the Atomos in ProRes? I have spent a ton of time on comparison videos and while the RED and even BM have slightly better dynamic range (and shoot RAW vs 4:2:2 10 bit), I dont see a huge difference in the quality of the videos when the right settings, colors, etc are applied in post.
If you can afford it, RED all the way. It *crushes* the GH5.
With that said, there's also cameras from Kinefinity, which provide RED-ish quality at indie-ish prices($4-8k).
so wait is this your way of cutting ur dp off? cos if u couldn't afford to pay him wit out the red then whats the difference since u own it now ? serious question
Robert Vanacore no there's just alot of times where I need to be able to shoot with my own camera at will and not have to hire someone.
hello, how have everybody a red camera, and is so expensive ?
Hey! So im scouting for a Red. Im finally gonna buy my first Red in January since ill be moving out of NYC to Europe during that month. Want to start off strong. Should I purchase this one, or should I go for the Scarlet W ? ... Can you please share some knowledge?
What did you go with? I’m in the market of buying one too?
I love my Dragon, but it's next level with Davinci Studio not the free version.
So why is this TH-cam video not in 6K
Being such a bad business man and being here in southern Europe I would need like 2 lifetimes to be able to get one hahaha.... Seriously! Glad you worked your ass to treat yourself with that Lil jewel!
Want to be like you, just purchased a drone and a nikon d850 . Would like you to teach me the way
Congratulations dude nice video ! . . . i think 20 people disliked it because they could not buy RED lol
Sorry I just realised, I misunderstood your post, I thought you sold a Scarlet Dragon, a CF Dragon 6k full package for 12k is a really good deal bro.
Red Dragons in Germany are only 2000$-4000$! For this Price a good cam! 🎥
Still got the t3i going
Damn my Land Rover or camera. That's an expensive camera lol but if it's what you do then I suppose it's worth every penny. Congrats my friend
Land Rover has a negative ROI! You can rent out these cameras when you're not using it for over $1k a day.
This is my DREAM CAMERA
@thebuffnerds What plate is this? With the rail mounts?
Want to deal in adventure series topics , movies , music video and anything that is action oriented . Can u please teach me the way
Bro how in the hell do u have time to hit the gym with so many vids to direct and edit?
Santi Rios prioritizing
clicked the like button without watching video after i saw the name of the video (y)
Yea you, i just got a Dragon -X 🤙
but why not arri amira the...
And now, 12 months later, worth less than $20k - courtesy of RED
OOOOOOOHHHHH SHIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIII
RED Camera, (Arri) ALEXA Cap 😜
Yo Ill buy it off you 10,000 doll hairs
DEAL! lol
If you paid 40K for this no matter the hours you got robbed blind, Epic's with a dragon sensor second hand kitted out on RU go for 10-15K.
Not sure why you didn't buy a DSMC2 also..?
My RED salesman was no shark
WHAT THE HELL
💪
why colors in this video are so strong ?
it looks like a world of warcraft production :/
Wow!!! 👏🏻 👏🏻 👏🏻 $40,000.00?!?!!? Oh my GOD! HEY MOM! MOMMY LOOK AT ME!!! EVERYONE LOOK!!! YOURE NOT LOOKING!!!
"My little Dslr Canon 1DX" Its a beast and costs 8000$
No its $6k lol
=))) 6k its a lot of money for a newbie filmmaker ,anyway I respect you and in 5-10 years I wanna be where you are now.Now i shoot on a canon d700 and I will upgrade to a panasonig g7 for 4k videos.Whit experience and hard work I wanna see myself in 5 -10 years shooting on a Red like you.
The Red Vs The Arri Alexa
Buying a camera ....but you never mentioned glass ?
$40k isn't it overpriced for what it is?
Have you ever worked for kane brown or hunter hayes? if so my girlfriend has probably met you once or twice.
Anyone knowS MKBHD
why????????????????????????
nvm linus explained why is it good :) stilll HDD SPACE
Regilio Bouma as a DP your not keeping the footage unless you want to. The editor is going to need to HDD space. Also you can transcode the raw files to another codec for storage after your edit is done to save space.
bro just add barcamoly to my Chipolte and we cool
lol m8 awesome giveaway ur last camera
40k my ass, the shit 49k
i own Arri Amira from the age of 27...this red in 6k its crop...so...i want that 35mm look on 200fps..RED it's croped in 200...that's why i hate RED...and you can't compare a RED to an ARRI...simply you cant...
I hate the cropping necessity too!
I hear REDS are glitchy.
how do you afford that bro lol.
malai pani yeuta
now it costs 12k lol
TheWaguila no it doesn't
-12 million views in the last 30 days????
why in the hell did you buy a RED???????????????????????????
Not industry standard.
Namedroppers 🤦♂️