Congrats. Only problem is that RED doesn't service or sell any parts for DSMC1 bodies. If anything happens you end up with a brick. I'm really pissed at RED for abandoning their customers. A 10 year old Arri Alexa EV is still serviced by ARRI and you can buy any part for it from ARRI. I hope you got the RED cheap and I hope it serves you flawlessly for many years. Cheers!
Yeah I've heard about that... hopefully I don't run into anything. Definitely got it for a steal, just under $9k - that's awesome about Arri I did not know that!
I swear by the Red Cameras - We bought our first Red Scarlet MX - in 2012. We Filmed 2 Multi-award Films with them. And earned even a Best Cinematography award. The power of red Is real
Congrats on your beast. Having shot on an Epic a couple of times, I can say that it's an awesome camera, but probably not the best choice for most indie filmmakers.
I’m rooting for you bro 😎 high end commercial work unfortunately does require higher end tools. Not to get the job done, because we all know a small mirrorless/DSLR can get the job done, but it’s more about business presentation. Walk onto the filming location with a RED vs an EOSR put clients at ease, as well as you as the Dir/DP as well. It gives you this false sense of notoriety, which sounds bad when just said openly on the surface, but for some reason people just move with more of a purpose when you look the part. Which in turn can produce a more polished end result.
Good luck if it breaks and needs repair. RED won't touch DSMC1. I did same thing as you and ended up with a worthless paperweight. Enjoy while it lasts...
I was definitely looking at that camera. Comparing the specs vs cost compared to the Red I decided to go with the Red. Autofocus would be nice though, not gonna lie lol.
Very cool man! I have also been wanting a RED for quite some time. I'm in the market currently for a cinema camera. similar to your conundrum! I'm waiting for the Komodo but have been looking at the Red Dragon 6K as well. And also waiting for the R5. I love the C200 but I am a sucker for high frame rates. Stoked to see what you make with the RED!
Thanks man! Yeah that R5 has some insane specs that will for sure disrupt the mirrorless market! So far I am absolutely loving my Red and have no regrets. Am learning all I possibly can at the moment though!
I was definitely considering it! But since that is such a highly awaited camera, I probably wouldn't be able to get ahold of it until mid-next year - a little longer than I could wait. Also, the Red Epic Dragon for $8.8k was the better deal [even though it is an older model] since the original price point was around $25k. Thanks!!
I did look at that and contemplate that camera as well! Should’ve mentioned that. Compatibility is a bit of an issue for me, along with mainly shooting only 10 bit & 12bit when you shoot raw. Red shoots 16 bit & RAW across the board
Mohamad Fawaz ya it is! Not sure about the Gemini 5k but I think that sensor is better in low light. BUT a big reason the price gap is this is DSMC1 brain not a DSMC2 AND it was used
Lol renting is never a waste of money! If i break a 50.000 alexa on set i can get a new one in less than an hour without worrying for a single second. The shoot can continue and everyone can go home with slme money in their pocket... that red was a sweet deal though :)
I'm kind of surprised you didn't wait for the R5. Serious question: what can the RED do tbat your Canon can't? I know Parker Wallbeck has a red but still mostly shoots on his 1dxii
The R5 will definitely be a beast of a camera! Might even be upgrading my 1DXii to get the R5. But definitely needed to add a cinema camera in the line up to increase the quality of videos I can produce for commercials/films etc. For instance my Red can shooting up to 22 stops of Dynamic range with HDRx enabled, as well as RAW 16 bit color. Plus they are built for shooting pro video, so if I want to compete with higher-end DP's, I needed to be "playing in the same field" essentially
Parker shoots most if not all his youtube content on the canons. When its client work with the big bucks, hes using his RED. I am also waiting for the R5, but mainly for photography work.
nice one buddy, I'm also planning to get a RED, I'm into weddings and mostly music video and currently using a GH5, but now due to money issues I was thinking of getting a used Red Scarlet MX for around less than $5000 for a complete kit, I mean what are your thoughts on the Red Scarlet Mx for someone who wants to dive into the red eco-system?
That's awesome! Yes any RED around 5-8k if it is in good shape is a great place to start. That's what I'm doing, starting with DSMC1 brains and will eventually upgrade I'm sure.
I’m kinda in the same boat. I had the canon c100 Mark II which was an awesome all around camera, and this year I started getting way more music video gigs and I wanted to upgrade for something with more high dynamic range and more flexibility in post. My budget is also 5k but I’m just worried about reliability with the Red MX’s. I do have to say currently having a c200 on loan, the raw looks beautiful and similar to the Red Epic but I still can’t make up my mind on what I want lol.
the scarlet is kinda old crap sensor now especially the 4k, unless you got ppl who say we only want our work shot on reds then just get a BMD ursa mini pro or even a pocket 6k. if you go watch reviews vs the scarlet you will see BMD is superior image and much less problems than REDs especially old ones
@@coreyandolina5392 hahaha, trust me the RED Scarlet/Epic MX image is quite good although it's an old sensor as compared to the 6k Dragon sensor, my thoughts are maybe to hold on and save a bit for money jump on to the Red Raven, that way you will have fewer reliability issues and technical support is available, I'm also having troubles in making up my mind whether I should just drop the scarlet and move to a new camera like the raven but if I'm to dump the Red idea them a BMCC 6K will be a good one.
Can you maybe make a video about pointers going from a hobby to starting a video prod business that works with small businesses (scaling a business) since you have experience with that ? 👋🏽👋🏽
Tip number one...social media is EVERYTHING....absolutely everything nowadays. My business was basically nowhere until I started utilizing social media studying its trends. I’m 36 so I have to deal with younger people. They just know more about this stuff and have the word on the street. If you’re 30 or older, that’s the absolute first step in scaling (after you’ve developed your skills and honed them to a professional level....but that’s a given)
How do you feel about the Ursa 12k? Do you believe with this new release of the Ursa 12k, it will grab the attention of producers/clients; away from mid-tier Red Cameras?
I was highly considering the Komodo, couple reasons I decided against it. Since the masses will be purchasing that camera as soon as it's released + COVD19 delays in production I'm guessing the wait time is going to be pretty long and I was looking to invest this year. Also for the price point I got the Epic Dragon 6K kit for, it was definitely the better deal (even though it is a DSMC1)
@@JustinRomeyn Komodo is shipping now. I have a friend who placed an order and will receive soon. It's only $6,000 for the body and has a much more modern design and sensor. Maybe you can sell your EPIC later and buy one if you find it to be a better camera for you! Autofocus actually works on the Komodo. I'm excited about it! Hopefully I will get one soon.
@@davidaltizer agreed man! Super appealing. I have room to work with if I end up wanting the Komodo. Should be able to sell the Red epic dragon for around $8k
You have any dropped frame issues? I heard about a bunch of these issues and more hardware related ones on the MX sensor models a while ago so steared clear of RED, i'm either going way below their prices or spend a bit extra and get an older Arri.
Still no regrets and actually invested in the RED Komodo as well! Highly recommend the production models of the Komodo when they come out. Great entry price to Red with a lot of versatility considering the small size
So here’s something I haven’t found info on anywhere. Will the red dragon take my Sony g lenses? I have two a7iii and a lot of glass I’ve invested in. Hoping to be able to use it on the RED
Ayala Films so far worth it to me - I can get shots that I could never get with my dragon like flying it on my glidecam, tight spaces, etc. I did get it as my B cam to the Dragon, but might be a great place to start for you
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My budget was 3-5k, so I bought it for 9k.
Makes sense
This is literally every photo/video purchaser story.. So i had this budget... Then, I saw this deal, and I said fk that budget.
Hahaha sounds about right
Congrats. Only problem is that RED doesn't service or sell any parts for DSMC1 bodies. If anything happens you end up with a brick. I'm really pissed at RED for abandoning their customers. A 10 year old Arri Alexa EV is still serviced by ARRI and you can buy any part for it from ARRI. I hope you got the RED cheap and I hope it serves you flawlessly for many years. Cheers!
Yeah I've heard about that... hopefully I don't run into anything. Definitely got it for a steal, just under $9k - that's awesome about Arri I did not know that!
I swear by the Red Cameras - We bought our first Red Scarlet MX - in 2012. We Filmed 2 Multi-award Films with them. And earned even a Best Cinematography award. The power of red Is real
I can’t wait to see some red tutorials and camera breakdown!!! This is monumental! Congratulations on the purchase!
Kostas Lazanas appreciate it brother
I just switched from Sony to RED SW coz I do a lot of chromakey works. The image quality is just so amazing!
Agreed!! Definitely a big factor in my decision!
How are you getting on with it now?
Congrats on your beast. Having shot on an Epic a couple of times, I can say that it's an awesome camera, but probably not the best choice for most indie filmmakers.
Jan Tore Sorensen thanks! Yeah it’s definitely not ideal for super run and gun
Just bought an ursa 4k cinema camera for 1200 euro + V mount. Really solid and cheap. Anyways, awesome video i'm very happy for you
Dude that’s an awesome deal congrats! Yes stoked to make some 🔥🔥 films
I’m rooting for you bro 😎 high end commercial work unfortunately does require higher end tools. Not to get the job done, because we all know a small mirrorless/DSLR can get the job done, but it’s more about business presentation. Walk onto the filming location with a RED vs an EOSR put clients at ease, as well as you as the Dir/DP as well. It gives you this false sense of notoriety, which sounds bad when just said openly on the surface, but for some reason people just move with more of a purpose when you look the part. Which in turn can produce a more polished end result.
If you ever need repairs or servicing let me know
Congratulations on your new Red!! Definitely a wise decision.
Good luck if it breaks and needs repair. RED won't touch DSMC1. I did same thing as you and ended up with a worthless paperweight.
Enjoy while it lasts...
True.... might be selling it soon we’ll see
Boy... then came the Komodo. 🙃
if hours are low you might be OK, but sensor replacement, they do go on well used cameras, mine went at around 600, will cost you $10K
well done dang!! Good to know. Thanks for that info! Hours were around 130 when I got it
Congrats ! But for 8800 you was able to get a scarlet w dragon 5k ready to shoot but the epic dragon is a workhorse !!!
And they dont service the dsmc1 no more but i know someone that does if you happen to have a problem
I just liked the video because I'm happy for you. ✊
JoshDidItt appreciate it homie!! 🙌🏻🙌🏻
Why not get a C200? Feels like this might’ve been a better fit.
I was definitely looking at that camera. Comparing the specs vs cost compared to the Red I decided to go with the Red. Autofocus would be nice though, not gonna lie lol.
he wanted to spend thousands on media lol
Very cool man! I have also been wanting a RED for quite some time. I'm in the market currently for a cinema camera. similar to your conundrum! I'm waiting for the Komodo but have been looking at the Red Dragon 6K as well. And also waiting for the R5. I love the C200 but I am a sucker for high frame rates. Stoked to see what you make with the RED!
Thanks man! Yeah that R5 has some insane specs that will for sure disrupt the mirrorless market! So far I am absolutely loving my Red and have no regrets. Am learning all I possibly can at the moment though!
Justin Romeyn for sure man! Looking forward to see what you create with it!
R5 will be limited to clog1, which doesn't have the highest dynamic range. Stoked to see final specs and images, but I dont have high hopes tbh.
It´s the best image you can get for the money. Good decision!
Agreed! Thanks!!!
Wow wat an upgrade! Hehe, good stuff 👍
Thanks!! Glad you liked it
Question! Considering what you spent, why didn’t you wait for the Komodo? Super dope purchase by the way!
I was definitely considering it! But since that is such a highly awaited camera, I probably wouldn't be able to get ahold of it until mid-next year - a little longer than I could wait. Also, the Red Epic Dragon for $8.8k was the better deal [even though it is an older model] since the original price point was around $25k. Thanks!!
Justin Romeyn Gotcha! Can’t wait to see you get some great footage from that thing!! Congrats again!
Jerel Northern thanks! Super stoked!
Did you ever consider the Z cam???
I did look at that and contemplate that camera as well! Should’ve mentioned that. Compatibility is a bit of an issue for me, along with mainly shooting only 10 bit & 12bit when you shoot raw. Red shoots 16 bit & RAW across the board
Nice video, great explanation and insight.
What's the difference between this camera and the gemini 5k? Or the dragon 6k ... man, the difference of price between this and those is huge!
Mohamad Fawaz ya it is! Not sure about the Gemini 5k but I think that sensor is better in low light. BUT a big reason the price gap is this is DSMC1 brain not a DSMC2 AND it was used
Justin Romeyn i'll be waiting for some videos by your red
Lol renting is never a waste of money! If i break a 50.000 alexa on set i can get a new one in less than an hour without worrying for a single second. The shoot can continue and everyone can go home with slme money in their pocket... that red was a sweet deal though :)
I gotcha! Good call! Time and place for it for sure
Oh noooo why!!!!!??
Gotta up my level in 2020!
@@JustinRomeyn get decent lens for gods sake
Great video and informational content
I'm kind of surprised you didn't wait for the R5. Serious question: what can the RED do tbat your Canon can't? I know Parker Wallbeck has a red but still mostly shoots on his 1dxii
The R5 will definitely be a beast of a camera! Might even be upgrading my 1DXii to get the R5. But definitely needed to add a cinema camera in the line up to increase the quality of videos I can produce for commercials/films etc. For instance my Red can shooting up to 22 stops of Dynamic range with HDRx enabled, as well as RAW 16 bit color. Plus they are built for shooting pro video, so if I want to compete with higher-end DP's, I needed to be "playing in the same field" essentially
Parker shoots most if not all his youtube content on the canons. When its client work with the big bucks, hes using his RED. I am also waiting for the R5, but mainly for photography work.
What’s the best place to purchase used red cameras ?
mpb.com or facebook marketplace!
nice one buddy, I'm also planning to get a RED, I'm into weddings and mostly music video and currently using a GH5, but now due to money issues I was thinking of getting a used Red Scarlet MX for around less than $5000 for a complete kit, I mean what are your thoughts on the Red Scarlet Mx for someone who wants to dive into the red eco-system?
That's awesome! Yes any RED around 5-8k if it is in good shape is a great place to start. That's what I'm doing, starting with DSMC1 brains and will eventually upgrade I'm sure.
I’m kinda in the same boat. I had the canon c100 Mark II which was an awesome all around camera, and this year I started getting way more music video gigs and I wanted to upgrade for something with more high dynamic range and more flexibility in post. My budget is also 5k but I’m just worried about reliability with the Red MX’s. I do have to say currently having a c200 on loan, the raw looks beautiful and similar to the Red Epic but I still can’t make up my mind on what I want lol.
the scarlet is kinda old crap sensor now especially the 4k, unless you got ppl who say we only want our work shot on reds then just get a BMD ursa mini pro or even a pocket 6k. if you go watch reviews vs the scarlet you will see BMD is superior image and much less problems than REDs especially old ones
@@coreyandolina5392 hahaha, trust me the RED Scarlet/Epic MX image is quite good although it's an old sensor as compared to the 6k Dragon sensor, my thoughts are maybe to hold on and save a bit for money jump on to the Red Raven, that way you will have fewer reliability issues and technical support is available, I'm also having troubles in making up my mind whether I should just drop the scarlet and move to a new camera like the raven but if I'm to dump the Red idea them a BMCC 6K will be a good one.
@@nicholasboule5134 couldn't agree more with you on that one, scarlet is old and definitely, pocket 6k will outshine it.
Can you maybe make a video about pointers going from a hobby to starting a video prod business that works with small businesses (scaling a business) since you have experience with that ? 👋🏽👋🏽
Great idea. I'll add that to the list for sure!
Tip number one...social media is EVERYTHING....absolutely everything nowadays. My business was basically nowhere until I started utilizing social media studying its trends. I’m 36 so I have to deal with younger people. They just know more about this stuff and have the word on the street. If you’re 30 or older, that’s the absolute first step in scaling (after you’ve developed your skills and honed them to a professional level....but that’s a given)
Do you have a list of the accessories you have attach? I have the same Red and like your set up.
Smart man!! I did the exact same thing ✊🏼✊🏼
Good call! Used is the way to go for sure
@@JustinRomeyn just think, the gigs we earn a income on with our epics, about time the Komodo comes out we can purchase that as a A/B cam ✊🏼
Can you provide a link for where you bought the red?
Yup! www.mpb.com/en-us/
How do you feel about the Ursa 12k?
Do you believe with this new release of the Ursa 12k, it will grab the attention of producers/clients; away from mid-tier Red Cameras?
Why didn't you wait for the Komodo?
I was highly considering the Komodo, couple reasons I decided against it. Since the masses will be purchasing that camera as soon as it's released + COVD19 delays in production I'm guessing the wait time is going to be pretty long and I was looking to invest this year. Also for the price point I got the Epic Dragon 6K kit for, it was definitely the better deal (even though it is a DSMC1)
@@JustinRomeyn Komodo is shipping now. I have a friend who placed an order and will receive soon. It's only $6,000 for the body and has a much more modern design and sensor. Maybe you can sell your EPIC later and buy one if you find it to be a better camera for you! Autofocus actually works on the Komodo. I'm excited about it! Hopefully I will get one soon.
@@davidaltizer agreed man! Super appealing. I have room to work with if I end up wanting the Komodo. Should be able to sell the Red epic dragon for around $8k
@@davidaltizer No 60fps at 5/6k sucks though. I'd rather get a dragon
Have you seen any good footage with it bro? I’m struggling to find something that looks good shot with Komodo
why not use your red to shoot this video
Thanks for the info! How is the fan noise on this camera from your experience? Can you hear it during interviews etc? Thanks Justin.
I haven’t heard it at all! I use external mics though for interviews. (Which I’m guessing is what you would be doing too)
@@JustinRomeyn interesting. So many comments online regarding the loud fan on dsmc1. Thanks for clearing that up.
i love this
Thanks!! 🙌🏻
You have any dropped frame issues? I heard about a bunch of these issues and more hardware related ones on the MX sensor models a while ago so steared clear of RED, i'm either going way below their prices or spend a bit extra and get an older Arri.
Question, aren't you scared going out with it? I have a much cheaper camera and I'm always mildly paranoid about protecting my gear.
I am a bit for sure. It's my baby. But just hold it tight and not being careless with it, ya know?
Hi Justin, great video! - whats your thoughts nearly a year on. Has it been reliable and fun :)
I hope he got a lot of use out of it! Great investment
You said mpb.com ?
Yep!!
My brother is investing in Sony cameras he is a film maker👌
Great cameras just not for me!
yeah i think im going to buy a canon camera when i have the money
Has the investment panned out? Im exactly in your same position looking to invest in RED camera but not sure what to do
Still no regrets and actually invested in the RED Komodo as well! Highly recommend the production models of the Komodo when they come out. Great entry price to Red with a lot of versatility considering the small size
So here’s something I haven’t found info on anywhere. Will the red dragon take my Sony g lenses? I have two a7iii and a lot of glass I’ve invested in. Hoping to be able to use it on the RED
Is the Komodo worth it? I’ve looked at that option too but just not sure on that one if spending 6k on the brain
Ayala Films so far worth it to me - I can get shots that I could never get with my dragon like flying it on my glidecam, tight spaces, etc. I did get it as my B cam to the Dragon, but might be a great place to start for you
@@JustinRomeyn I cant find a Komodo anywhere. Lots of updates and says black ones will ship at the end of this month, but cant find where to buy one
Does it look look with some L series glass? (It takes those right?)
Yup looks super good!
and now the eos r 5 is out bro..and soon the sony a7siii
will you come back?
Go back to Sony? Probably not lol. Red + R5 + R is where I’ll be heading
R5 is overheating for video Shooting & obviously we can’t compare it to filmmaking camera (RED)
Because you have money.
Why did you switch from Sony?
Jamali many reasons! Made a video about it th-cam.com/video/svqFlFUp4EM/w-d-xo.html
How you earned so much money
Hard work and dedication I guess?
Why you bought a RED camera?
A: "Cause he had the money laying around." ;-D
Hahaha (ish) - saved up from all my shoots to re-invest back into the company
@@JustinRomeyn At least it's better than those 250k tv cameras
Do you chew tobacco?
Lol nope never have
Why didn't you go sony a7 r3?
The a7riii isn't a cinema camera, wasn't looking to make a lateral shift. Or go back to Sony
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BKRJN VLOG you definitely didn’t watch my video then if this is your takeaway lol
Justin Romeyn no. i do. all of your video are. really quite quality good enough but why. small vews so i comment. like this
BKRJN VLOG oh gotcha! Appreciate that. Probably small views cuz I just uploaded it, thanks for watching 🙌🏻🙌🏻🙏🏻
Justin Romeyn i know. you have 4k. subscription but why vews is not enough? im tottaly. lost my mind about youtube algorithm😏 they didnt recommand to other. if. we have good. quality of. videos
BKRJN VLOG yeah TH-cam algorithm is a headache 😫
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