Kyle was great! Personally, I think that Kyle could come up with some great content due to his knowledge and experience. Seeing him sharpen different blade styles and talking about them would also be great.
Having declared my dissatisfaction with this sharpener last night th-cam.com/users/postUgkxDcr-y2Pf6xdnrFHrSP7dl9kpKaCozcSQ I thought about the problem some more. It occurred to me that I might be undoing each attempt at achieving a sharp edge by the repeated attempts. So, I tried to clean up the unsatisfactory result by honing with only positions 3 and 4.Miracle!! A really nicely sharpened chef's knife, more than enough to handle my needs. Admittedly, it did not reach professionally sharpened razor-fineness, but it is now significantly sharper than it was. A bout of breaking down carrots convinced me. So, major apologies to the manufacturer, Amazon, and all happy and potential owners! Follow the directions: don't buy it if you have ceramic blades; and don't overwork your knife blade.
GREAT INTERVIEW! Love this. As someone who's thinking about getting into sharpening to keep up my own knives, it really gives me a lot to think about and makes me feel much more comfortable about getting into sharpening. I've never been a knife guy but I'm starting to really appreciate the differences and recently picked up some ultra sharp steak knives and I LOVE THEM. Now I'm starting to see how dull ALL my blades are and I don't want to pay a fortune for sharpening. I'd rather do it myself AND maybe start shopping for a really good personal carry knife. This video removes a LOT of the "dark arts" around sharpening....would LOVE to see more and really dive deep for beginners. Thanks for this and I'm looking forward to more of y'all vids.
Having Kyle on this show was awesome. Thank you. Knife tips could be a pain to work with sometimes. It would be nice if Kyle could touch a little more on maintaining a factory tip or getting a knife tip back to factory sharp.
Really enjoyed this discussion, thank you! I recently picked up the WorkSharp Professional Precision Adjust and absolutely freaking love it. Really appreciate the beefy hardware upgrades over the original, and the 7 abrasive and finishing stones kit was really well thought out. Super easy to use, and wow does it deliver a scary sharp blade edge. Worth every penny, can't say enough good things about it.
I have the Workshop field sharpener, Guided sharpener and just purchased the Precision adjust elite. I've really enjoyed learning how to sharpen knives, and it's definitely a stress relief.
this professional expert gave a fantastic presentation and explanation. it would be great if work sharp did a series w/ different knives and tools specifically w/ the KO
The best investment i have made for knife sharpening is the ken onion sharpener but i rarely use it because once i have set an angle i use a ceramic rod and a strop to maintain my edges, I use a cheapo chef knife(400 series steel) daily and just honing and stropping before every day for a few seconds gets it shaving sharp and tears free when i cut onions
The precision adjust and spyderco sharp maker really has changed the sharpening game for me the Ken onion still gets used for my axes sometimes and machetes I use it mainly for
Can you not use the Ken Onion for for the knives? I have a precision adjust and would like a Ken Onion, would you recommend one? I have lots of fixed blades, pocket knives, an axe and a few machetes
@@Steven-jn2cw hes saying you can mess up a blade with the ken onion if you arnt careful, the other 2 no matter what you can get good results easily, me personally the kme is the way to go
I use a tripod or camera bubble to keep my blade level. I tape several on each side of the blade and it help keep my hands level as I pass. Since using this method my edges turn out awesome on the KO grinder system
Pro sharpener and new WS E-Commerce guy indicates a target of 30-35º INCLUSIVE ... wow, that's 15-17.5º per side. (I am assuming for EDC and Outdoor, though I am not sure if those are what Kyle Taylor is referring to.) Great video...keep the good digital stuff coming!
You can burn the edge long before it turns color, and the same is true for being warm to the touch. What you have to worry about is the temperature within a millimeter of the edge, which can heat up very quickly. Most factory edges are burned to a degree. Edge retention will improve after a new knife is resharpened two, three, or four times.
Exactly, which is why dry belts really shouldn't be used to sharpen knife blades. I should add that the exception is a water cooled variable speed 2x72 belt sander. 600, 1000 grit then leather strop with white paste.
I don’t have a power system but have a backpack workshop sharpener and table top workshop with the tilting top. Sounds like her worked for Buck knives! I’ve had knives that came to me with burrs and the recommended angle I sometimes change. Like a kershaw knife. I call them kershaw sharp and rework the edge. When I strop the knife I use a diamond paste, however it tends to make the leather smooth and I use a piece of scrap metal and scrape it. Would you recommend using the paste or strop them without the paste? I have a bench model workshop manual sharpener. As you move knives over the diamond plates the table tilts as you get closer to the tip. 1 thing that I ordered but never received is the strop plate, I have the ceramic bar that pops into the sharpener.
Yes how easy to sharpen a steel is important to me. I am buying magnacut more often and leaning away from 20cv because of the hard time I have sharpening 20cv. I would love to see knife steels with good edge retention but still not terribly hard to sharpen
what does Kyle think about stropping? didn't touch on that. very cool episode, I have two work sharp sharpeners but don't have the ken onion one but makes me want one. Keep the good content coming.
Regarding the Ken Onion grinder attachment: is it better to do one pass on each side or is it okay to do multiple passes on one side and then the same amount on the other side? What gives better results?
I can answer this one for you. When you are sharpening, you want to work on the same side of the blade until you fully develop a Burr on that side of the blade and keep track of how many passes It was. Then turn the blade over and do the same amount of passes on the that side to keep the bevel even. After that process, you are just going through the different grit belts alternating sides each pass until you worked out the previous belts scratch pattern. And you will just repeat that same process on every belt until you get it as fine as you would like. And then I would highly recommend using a leather strop. Once you do all that, I don't care what tool it is it could be a log splitting maul and it will be hair popping sharp.
Kyle is great.. I’d love to see him actually use the grinder attachment to sharpen some popular knives.. I also have a specific question. I bought an OTF with a double edge and would like to remove the top edge making it a single edge..Can I do this with the coursest (120) belt? I’d seriously dull the edge first with a file or a rock…Also I own a couple Tops knives that can’t throw a spark.. can I just flatten a belt width area of the top with the grinder attachment?
I have the Precision Adjust, my question is about aligning the edge. Every video says to align the edge perpendicular to the rod. So, if the blade is curved how do we do that? Would a straight line from the tip to the heel be a good way to find where to align the clamp?
Next they need to hire someone in customer service who cares to respond to emails. I've emailed 3 times about issues with the belts splitting at the seam and the black alignment knob developing a looseness that makes it very hard to get a belt tracking correctly.. As usual a companies success has them more concerned with profits and not those who purchased their products.
QUESTION. Is there a performance benefit and or good reasons that some manufacturers sharpen asymmetrically, for example 20º on one side and 30º on the other? Or, is this likely muscle memory variability with a particular sharpening employee. Value your expertise. Thanks.
I’ve watched many of your videos. You promote the fact that your belt grinders sharpen to a convex edge. I see the benefits of a convex edge. I’ve yet to see anyone sharpening a a blade with no secondary edge, a knife with a full convex blade that has no secondary edge, it’s convex for the full height of the blade right to the edge. I’d like to see a demonstration.
Ya definitely Benchmade. Sounds like he's describing the Osborne. Dinged up the thumbs tups nicely before I learned that knife needs the thumb studs off.
As a toolmaker with 20 years of experience i'm so sick and tired of free hand sharpening drill bits, knives etc. that i bought a used Deckel grinder and would never want to miss it again. Try to grind a carbide drill bit with your diamond wheel free handed and you know what i mean. I generally just buy carbide even if it's standard sizes since 3 years, and a guided grinder is a must.
We definitely know what you're talking about. Our company started out making guided drill sharpeners under the name Darex, which is still going strong. We also still make Drill Doctor. Thanks for watching!
@@WorkSharpOutdoor Do you guys offer diamond wheels for sharpening carbide drills with Darex? I would buy one and use the Deckel only for tough jobs like carbide end mills. AFAIK the Darex does only shape the tip of the drill? Geometric reshaping doesn't work right? Thanks in advance.
Sharpening has to be a true gift. I've tried the $1000.00 models Tormek T8 down to the lower lansky models and cannot find that polished hair shaving edge that I want. I would be willing pay for a one on one zoom class whim to help me figure out what I'm doing wrong. Fantastic video and very informative. Thank you
Hair shaving isn’t hard… you’re probably creating a burr or not fully removing the existing burr. Just really make sure to deburr properly and knife should be good to go
@@WorkSharpOutdoor awsome, keep me in mind. I'm trying to save up for your new sharpener, I'm a disabled vet so money is very hard to come by. I can't wait to buy it. Thank you for your response. Take care
@@tjay1305 thank you so much for the response. I just watched the push vs pull methods, very informative. I'd like to thank all you guys for the awesome content in your videos. I'm a disabled vet and I lost my son back in 2018 while serving in the Air Force. I'm saving for the the new sharpener, sharpening really helps me ease my mind about my son and the military because it will consume you if you let it. I could ask 100 questions but I won't don't do that to you. Thank you again for responding and take care.
@@drmikeyb1 No problem. Just a fellow enthusiast, and I have my own issues too lol… just do whatever makes you happy and keeps you alive sir. I sharpen freehand and have little experience with machines, but the principle behind getting a knife sharp remains the same.
I notice my KO speed is becoming more inconsistent. Is there a standard of care for these units like blowing them out with air, lubricating specific spots on them, etc. to keep them working consistently?
I just received my new elite work sharp kit. One minor issue: missing 2 rubber feet from the base where the angle setting is. Couldn’t find a way through the site to request support on this.
i would like a demonstration of sharpening a small axe or hatchet.....work sharp looks like it would give a good convex edge.....can't do that with a wicked edge. only complaint I would have is more grit choices. wicked edge wins out on that one. Anyway, i'm thinking of adding a work sharp to my sharpening "collection just for convex edges. Might be good for other edges too, I would have to work with one to see. Go BENCHMADE!
Yep, its good to make a habit out of honing regularly to prevent the need to sharpen as often. A ceramic honing rod like the one on our Guided Field Sharpener works great for this and helps you build the muscle memory when it does come time to sharpen. Better quality steels like the ones you mention respond well to honing too.
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He must have worked at Benchmade. The slinder knife he mentioned was the Benchmade 940 Osborne (designed by Warren Osborne from Australia).
I was just coming here to comment the same thing. It was definitely benchmade and the 940
Can Kyle do an episode on sharpening with the Precision Adjust sharpener? I think his expertise on sharpening techniques would be interesting to hear.
Adding it to the list!
@@WorkSharpOutdoor Awsome idea.
Kyle was great! Personally, I think that Kyle could come up with some great content due to his knowledge and experience. Seeing him sharpen different blade styles and talking about them would also be great.
Having declared my dissatisfaction with this sharpener last night th-cam.com/users/postUgkxDcr-y2Pf6xdnrFHrSP7dl9kpKaCozcSQ I thought about the problem some more. It occurred to me that I might be undoing each attempt at achieving a sharp edge by the repeated attempts. So, I tried to clean up the unsatisfactory result by honing with only positions 3 and 4.Miracle!! A really nicely sharpened chef's knife, more than enough to handle my needs. Admittedly, it did not reach professionally sharpened razor-fineness, but it is now significantly sharper than it was. A bout of breaking down carrots convinced me. So, major apologies to the manufacturer, Amazon, and all happy and potential owners! Follow the directions: don't buy it if you have ceramic blades; and don't overwork your knife blade.
GREAT INTERVIEW! Love this. As someone who's thinking about getting into sharpening to keep up my own knives, it really gives me a lot to think about and makes me feel much more comfortable about getting into sharpening. I've never been a knife guy but I'm starting to really appreciate the differences and recently picked up some ultra sharp steak knives and I LOVE THEM. Now I'm starting to see how dull ALL my blades are and I don't want to pay a fortune for sharpening. I'd rather do it myself AND maybe start shopping for a really good personal carry knife. This video removes a LOT of the "dark arts" around sharpening....would LOVE to see more and really dive deep for beginners. Thanks for this and I'm looking forward to more of y'all vids.
What carry knife are you thinking about or considering?
Having Kyle on this show was awesome. Thank you. Knife tips could be a pain to work with sometimes. It would be nice if Kyle could touch a little more on maintaining a factory tip or getting a knife tip back to factory sharp.
Really enjoyed this discussion, thank you! I recently picked up the WorkSharp Professional Precision Adjust and absolutely freaking love it. Really appreciate the beefy hardware upgrades over the original, and the 7 abrasive and finishing stones kit was really well thought out. Super easy to use, and wow does it deliver a scary sharp blade edge. Worth every penny, can't say enough good things about it.
Fantastic description on what you do to the knives sir. Take care and be safe sir. See you on your next video.
some things to cover with Kyle. Belt grit progression, burr removal/stropping, rpm of 2x72 & serrated knives
I would love to see Kyle come back and use the Precision Adjust Elite!
I have the Workshop field sharpener, Guided sharpener and just purchased the Precision adjust elite. I've really enjoyed learning how to sharpen knives, and it's definitely a stress relief.
this professional expert gave a fantastic presentation and explanation. it would be great if work sharp did a series w/ different knives and tools specifically w/ the KO
The best investment i have made for knife sharpening is the ken onion sharpener but i rarely use it because once i have set an angle i use a ceramic rod and a strop to maintain my edges, I use a cheapo chef knife(400 series steel) daily and just honing and stropping before every day for a few seconds gets it shaving sharp and tears free when i cut onions
The precision adjust and spyderco sharp maker really has changed the sharpening game for me the Ken onion still gets used for my axes sometimes and machetes I use it mainly for
Can you not use the Ken Onion for for the knives? I have a precision adjust and would like a Ken Onion, would you recommend one? I have lots of fixed blades, pocket knives, an axe and a few machetes
@@Steven-jn2cw hes saying you can mess up a blade with the ken onion if you arnt careful, the other 2 no matter what you can get good results easily, me personally the kme is the way to go
I LOVE my precission adjust sharpening system
I use a tripod or camera bubble to keep my blade level. I tape several on each side of the blade and it help keep my hands level as I pass. Since using this method my edges turn out awesome on the KO grinder system
Pro sharpener and new WS E-Commerce guy indicates a target of 30-35º INCLUSIVE ... wow, that's 15-17.5º per side. (I am assuming for EDC and Outdoor, though I am not sure if those are what Kyle Taylor is referring to.) Great video...keep the good digital stuff coming!
You can burn the edge long before it turns color, and the same is true for being warm to the touch. What you have to worry about is the temperature within a millimeter of the edge, which can heat up very quickly. Most factory edges are burned to a degree. Edge retention will improve after a new knife is resharpened two, three, or four times.
Exactly, which is why dry belts really shouldn't be used to sharpen knife blades. I should add that the exception is a water cooled variable speed 2x72 belt sander. 600, 1000 grit then leather strop with white paste.
Fantastic content! Glad your on board!
I would like Kyle's view on grits for different steels. Some people say a steel is better with a toothy grind or fine grind
I don’t have a power system but have a backpack workshop sharpener and table top workshop with the tilting top.
Sounds like her worked for Buck knives! I’ve had knives that came to me with burrs and the recommended angle I sometimes change. Like a kershaw knife. I call them kershaw sharp and rework the edge. When I strop the knife I use a diamond paste, however it tends to make the leather smooth and I use a piece of scrap metal and scrape it. Would you recommend using the paste or strop them without the paste? I have a bench model workshop manual sharpener. As you move knives over the diamond plates the table tilts as you get closer to the tip. 1 thing that I ordered but never received is the strop plate, I have the ceramic bar that pops into the sharpener.
Very helpful info. Thanks gentlemen.
Yes how easy to sharpen a steel is important to me. I am buying magnacut more often and leaning away from 20cv because of the hard time I have sharpening 20cv. I would love to see knife steels with good edge retention but still not terribly hard to sharpen
Thx Kyle. C U soon hopefully
what does Kyle think about stropping? didn't touch on that. very cool episode, I have two work sharp sharpeners but don't have the ken onion one but makes me want one. Keep the good content coming.
Regarding the Ken Onion grinder attachment: is it better to do one pass on each side or is it okay to do multiple passes on one side and then the same amount on the other side? What gives better results?
I can answer this one for you. When you are sharpening, you want to work on the same side of the blade until you fully develop a Burr on that side of the blade and keep track of how many passes It was. Then turn the blade over and do the same amount of passes on the that side to keep the bevel even. After that process, you are just going through the different grit belts alternating sides each pass until you worked out the previous belts scratch pattern. And you will just repeat that same process on every belt until you get it as fine as you would like. And then I would highly recommend using a leather strop. Once you do all that, I don't care what tool it is it could be a log splitting maul and it will be hair popping sharp.
Kyle is great.. I’d love to see him actually use the grinder attachment to sharpen some popular knives.. I also have a specific question. I bought an OTF with a double edge and would like to remove the top edge making it a single edge..Can I do this with the coursest (120) belt? I’d seriously dull the edge first with a file or a rock…Also I own a couple Tops knives that can’t throw a spark.. can I just flatten a belt width area of the top with the grinder attachment?
I have the Precision Adjust, my question is about aligning the edge. Every video says to align the edge perpendicular to the rod. So, if the blade is curved how do we do that? Would a straight line from the tip to the heel be a good way to find where to align the clamp?
We got you. Check it out th-cam.com/video/NqnrEwhnv1M/w-d-xo.html
Man what a wealth of knowledge
Excellent, thanks. I’d love to hear more from your expert
I love the way this guy says orange
Awesome great Video. Kyle seems like a good guy. He has some great advice too. Thanks for posting.
Thanks for watching! He is a good guy
Next they need to hire someone in customer service who cares to respond to emails. I've emailed 3 times about issues with the belts splitting at the seam and the black alignment knob developing a looseness that makes it very hard to get a belt tracking correctly.. As usual a companies success has them more concerned with profits and not those who purchased their products.
Bring Kyle back!
Wow! This was killer! Great info and some positive reinforcement. Superb!
Thanks. I learned a lot from that.
QUESTION. Is there a performance benefit and or good reasons that some manufacturers sharpen asymmetrically, for example 20º on one side and 30º on the other? Or, is this likely muscle memory variability with a particular sharpening employee. Value your expertise. Thanks.
Its likely just that employee missed the mark on that knife.
Kyle needs to be in more videos!
Yea I would like to see more. Tips on the ken onion edition with both cassettes
This might be what you are looking for! th-cam.com/video/L-jd0TEU298/w-d-xo.html
I’ve watched many of your videos. You promote the fact that your belt grinders sharpen to a convex edge. I see the benefits of a convex edge. I’ve yet to see anyone sharpening a a blade with no secondary edge, a knife with a full convex blade that has no secondary edge, it’s convex for the full height of the blade right to the edge. I’d like to see a demonstration.
Ya definitely Benchmade. Sounds like he's describing the Osborne. Dinged up the thumbs tups nicely before I learned that knife needs the thumb studs off.
As a toolmaker with 20 years of experience i'm so sick and tired of free hand sharpening drill bits, knives etc. that i bought a used Deckel grinder and would never want to miss it again. Try to grind a carbide drill bit with your diamond wheel free handed and you know what i mean. I generally just buy carbide even if it's standard sizes since 3 years, and a guided grinder is a must.
We definitely know what you're talking about. Our company started out making guided drill sharpeners under the name Darex, which is still going strong. We also still make Drill Doctor. Thanks for watching!
@@WorkSharpOutdoor Do you guys offer diamond wheels for sharpening carbide drills with Darex? I would buy one and use the Deckel only for tough jobs like carbide end mills.
AFAIK the Darex does only shape the tip of the drill? Geometric reshaping doesn't work right?
Thanks in advance.
I have a Ken onion but not the extended belt one,can I do the same job on my hi end hunting knives as y’all do with the extended belt riser tks
any tips on using the ken onion addition on a short sword? blade length about 30 inches.
Would like to know what belt progression Kyle would use on something like a Bugout. Does he accomplish sharp in 2, 3, 4 belts?
I have the same question
Essentially you want to apex the blade on the first belt. That’s the only way to get a blade sharp. Then every belt after till the strop.
So why is this particular sharpner preferred over the ken oinion with the guides?
Nice video. I would think that Work Sharp would have some professional sharpeners on staff.
I enjoy the process of sharping my own blades so I really don't care what the edge is like when I buy a new knife I almost welcome a bad edge
I'm guessing he was talking about an Osborne from BM
Cbn wheels last longer and remove consitantly. Professional grinderman here
Any discount codes for the website?
Karambit! Hawkbill! How do you sharpen a curve blade on a worksharp? What techniques does he recommend?
Sharpening has to be a true gift. I've tried the $1000.00 models Tormek T8 down to the lower lansky models and cannot find that polished hair shaving edge that I want. I would be willing pay for a one on one zoom class whim to help me figure out what I'm doing wrong. Fantastic video and very informative. Thank you
Great idea for a video! We might have to do just that. Stay tuned
Hair shaving isn’t hard… you’re probably creating a burr or not fully removing the existing burr. Just really make sure to deburr properly and knife should be good to go
@@WorkSharpOutdoor awsome, keep me in mind. I'm trying to save up for your new sharpener, I'm a disabled vet so money is very hard to come by. I can't wait to buy it. Thank you for your response. Take care
@@tjay1305 thank you so much for the response. I just watched the push vs pull methods, very informative. I'd like to thank all you guys for the awesome content in your videos. I'm a disabled vet and I lost my son back in 2018 while serving in the Air Force. I'm saving for the the new sharpener, sharpening really helps me ease my mind about my son and the military because it will consume you if you let it. I could ask 100 questions but I won't don't do that to you. Thank you again for responding and take care.
@@drmikeyb1 No problem. Just a fellow enthusiast, and I have my own issues too lol… just do whatever makes you happy and keeps you alive sir.
I sharpen freehand and have little experience with machines, but the principle behind getting a knife sharp remains the same.
I notice my KO speed is becoming more inconsistent. Is there a standard of care for these units like blowing them out with air, lubricating specific spots on them, etc. to keep them working consistently?
I'm wondering the same thing. Hopefully someone can help us out.
Magnacut on the precision adjust knife sharpener?😊
I just received my new elite work sharp kit. One minor issue: missing 2 rubber feet from the base where the angle setting is. Couldn’t find a way through the site to request support on this.
Shoot our customer service team a message at info@worksharptools.com and they will take care of it.
@@WorkSharpOutdoor Thank you! Sent out an email right away.
Great stuff!
i would like a demonstration of sharpening a small axe or hatchet.....work sharp looks like it would give a good convex edge.....can't do that with a wicked edge. only complaint I would have is more grit choices. wicked edge wins out on that one. Anyway, i'm thinking of adding a work sharp to my sharpening "collection just for convex edges. Might be good for other edges too, I would have to work with one to see. Go BENCHMADE!
Can you address when to hone vs sharpen. I find people go right to sharpening when they probably should use a honing steel instead. D2, S30v, etc…
Yep, its good to make a habit out of honing regularly to prevent the need to sharpen as often. A ceramic honing rod like the one on our Guided Field Sharpener works great for this and helps you build the muscle memory when it does come time to sharpen. Better quality steels like the ones you mention respond well to honing too.
Like a pro!!!🤙🤙🤙
I'm getting sharpening advice from "Kyle", a guy whose hair is uneven from side to side. 😲
Where can I find one of those work sharp hats?
Right here! www.worksharptools.com/shop/product-category/brand-gear/
Can you send me some sharpening stuff to "test out" for you guys?
Pff I'm a semi pro sharpener, and I've never seen a BM that was at 15 per side. Most are well over 20.
What is that yellow knife ?
The Work Sharp Exclusive Benchmade Bugout. We have them available on our website. www.worksharptools.com/shop/brand-gear/exclusivebugout/
@@WorkSharpOutdoor that is a sweet knife. Do you ship to the UK?
Would've been nice to see him use it to sharpen.
We ran out of time! More to come for sure
i bet he worked at benchmade
highly probably
It shows he did on his LinkedIn.
Good vid but why does Kyle feel the need to keep flicking that knife open? OCD?
Its hard to resist flicking a knife open and shut that has an amazing action. Some knives just become fidget toys for adults, lol.
Kyle would feel pretty in a pink tank top
That would go well with his radical lesbian haircut... LOL! Just funnin
Get Kyle a barber
Too much talking, zero demo 🫤