The Digital Media VS Physical Media Conspiracy
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 17 ต.ค. 2024
- This video is going to be a long one, but we're talking about the situation regarding both physical media and digital media. This includes physical movies and digital movies, physical games and digital games and more. #gaming #movies #physicalgames
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I'm always gonna be a physical media guy always and forever, I've been going digital a lot lately only because I can't buy every Blu-ray ever but when I do buy a DVD or Blu-ray I will always cherish it
I will ALWAYS be an advocate for Physical Media. When it comes to comics, movies, and games, physical will ALWAYS be better. Ive found myself buying alot of digital games recently, but the only reason I do is when they are EXPONENTIALLY cheaper (45-80% off) because in that case, it would be stupid to pay 3 times the price just to have it physically. For Example i was able to get the ENTIRE Return to Arkham TRILOGY (digitally) for 5 DOLLARS. Keep in mind this included EVERY DLC and skin for Arkham knight aswell. That was too good to pass up. I feel like Digital Media should be a substitution, or a secondary source of media, but it seems like its becoming more and more main stream every year. A fear I really have is that 15-20 years down the line (once i finally convince a girl to fall in love with me lmao) once I have kids, there wont be any comic shops anymore. Movie theaters will no longer be a thing. There will be no more game stops, or game stores. EVERYTHING will literally be inside, and digitally. I wont be able to have that fun with my kids. I really hope this doesnt happen but it looks like thats where we're headed. This is why I cherish every trip to the comic shop, and i try to keep all of my stuff in condition because I fear there will be a time where you cant get them anywhere else.
My issue is I love physical media but I own a series s and a steam deck but right now I have a digital copies of the whole arkham trilogy on Xbox (I bought the games when they were on sale but owned the return to arkham discs in the past)
The problem with physical media is that it’s taking up storage that can easily be used for something far more important. What if your physical copy breaks or deteriorates to the point where it’s unresponsive or you lose it? None of these are a problem if you go digital.
@@Riddles464 If someone is so strapped for space that a few games is going to ruin their living situation, then they have bigger problems than digital vs physical anyways.
@@kylebutler9281 No no clearly it's hard to have a box or shelf set up. It's not like people did that forever with their books.
@@hughjass7777 Yes it's an incredibly complex situation I'm shocked I figured out how to do it too haha
I've been saying this for a good while. A lot of games, shows and films have a very good message and have a lot to say about our world and society. Newer stuff gets locked behind a subscription paywall with no physical copy.
Then you have the likes of Ubisoft taking digital content already payed for. It's a really shady practice.
I'd rather own a physical copy so companies and hackers can't just yoink everything digitally and mark up the price just to sate their own greed.
As an avid gamer and collector, buying physical media is always my number 1 choice to purchase anything I want added to my collection. There are only 3 instances where I can safely recall that I've bought something digitally as a choice due to as a last minute resort or if it was a cheaper option. Or the game was a digital only release (i.e. Travis Strikes Again at the time). But in almost every other instance when trying to buy a video game, I've always go for paying it physically rather than digitally. I own the product, nobody can mess with it, I can trade it in for another game, lend it over to someone, etc.
I agree with a lot of this. It's very obviously easier for companies to push digital over physical. It takes way less effort.
I love both physical and digital media because they both have a ton of advantages, but there's nothing like having a shelf full of your favorite games/movies. I love making my game collection bigger and being able to show off all the box art, digital media just can't compete with that.
Love longer form of media videos, big fan been watching since 2019 hope to see longer videos
Hey thank you Alex I really appreciate you and your support. It's really cool you've been watching the videos since 2019 that's a long time!
I'm actually really interested in watching this whole video I love when you talk about this stuff
I recently got back into collecting cds.( I'd been continuing to collect manga, books, comics, video games, tv shows and movies) Ir's nice listening to the complete album of my favorite artists and I can rip the cds into mp3 format for my mp3 player and digital backups. No one can change the music once it's mine.
Love the watchdogs gameplay background I just beaten watchdogs 1 again but I prefer physical games bc I like putting games in my console I do like digital too but prefer physical
First glad to see a fellow watch dogs fan. It gets a lot of hate but I really love the first game a lot. I haven't played the others yet. Secondly, I really prefer physical as well. I own a bunch of digital games on PC though and I bought a handful over the years on console too. I also get those free ones, and I guess they're not really free, for having memberships on PlayStation and Xbox.
I like the the story and some game play of one I prefer to plsy it more but 2 had the best gameplay elects more stuff the story in 2 is alright 3 I haven't really play I have it but just not fan of controls
@@DegenerateJay i will also say o wish one had the mission replay like 2 has so I don't hsve to replay the whole story to plsy a mission I want to pla
I had a similar problem in trying to find Ty the Tasmanian Tiger Remastered on launch. Long story short I had to go to 3 GameStops before I could find a single copy (the manager told me each store was only getting a single copy) even after checking the website and checking with a manager. Also had the same experience with many BluRays being destroyed in shipping or seeing them busted at a store, always sad to see
I try to only buy physical copies of stuff I really love. It takes up a lot of space but going through the collection and getting rid of mistaken impulse buys is super satisfying. I just wish more love went into some complete sets of tv shows. I recently bought the complete set of rugrats on dvd and the packaging is atrocious. The discs are stacked by season and the seasons overlap one another while in the case. I know rugrats is long but it honestly deserved better care.
This was a good one. I usually don’t comment but this was an excellent hour video. I just started purchasing my games physically again because of the fear of losing my digital library. I was just told that Ubisoft has took down some Splinter Cell games on the Xbox store, like I’m glad I brought some two weeks ago. I wouldn’t mind another hour long topic with you guys. Excellent video.
I'm glad someone finally made a video of this. Because i just found out about the pixel remaster for final fantasy.
Im really tired of the lame arguement that digital is better because it saves space. Like how poor of a packer do you have to be that you cant buy a box and put them in the box? Or buy a book shelf, they make media shelves that hold over 300 cases. Like what??
I'd rather even buy a smashed physical copy of something (as long as it still works) than digital.
Rather than spend $500 on a remastered PS4 game. I took a holiday to Japan, bought a bunch of second hand games consoles in really good condition (like PS1, PS2, PSP, PS Vita, Dreamcast, Sega Saturn, GameBoy etc), hacked them, modded them and now I can play pretty much all of the retro games in the exact way they were intended to be played. On my CRT televisions.
Thats great you have the skill to do that. Every time I try to repair modern electronics the magic smoke escapes.
I refuse to buy digital. It's physical or nothing for me. I need something in my hands for my money. I'll quit buying games if I can no longer find physical.
I think you guys are right I want physical more
My brother is a big time collector
He buys all kinds of stuff
Like manga and comics
Blu ray movies
And many figures and statues
Yet he buys most of game’s digital
I honestly will never understand him on that one 😂o
Been collecting physical media again after Disney "randomly" decided to revoke about 1/3 of my digital movies...No idea why or how but I was very pi--ed off.
Cancelled my Disney+ membership and I'm trying to hunt down on physical. Will never subscribe again out of principle. This is intentional, folks. These megacorps don't want us to own anything anymore.
Loved this video I havnt bought much physical media since the Xbox one came out because of game share. Me and my brother get every game one of use by so that’s just such a big plus we couldn’t afford to ignore it lol. One thing I have is a dvd and blue ray discs I can’t watch because of my series s
Facts. Both physical and digital are double-edged swords. But I always champion the former.
In some ways physical media has never been better for film fans. Criterion, arrow video, severance, shout factory, kino Lorber, vinegar syndrome, 88 films, umbrella, etc.. have breathed new life into the hobby.
Arrow Video and 88 Films is great if you love cult horror movies
Koch Media / Plaion, Capelight, and Studio Canal are also contributing a LOT to the joy of collecting. Really doing the best releases you can get.
Physical copies of media are an absolute MUST for me. I flat refuse to let companies even have the REMOTE possibility of taking something away from me, essentially stealing it, after I'd paid the cash for it. I flat refuse to rely on internet connections to watch my movies or play my games too.
As a collector myself, I'm ok with my games and movies taking up real estate. At least if the internet ever goes down in my area, I know I'll still have access to all my stuff. Unlike the "pure digital" shills. What on earth are they gonna do if, God forbid, they get bad internet? Or forget passwords? Or the service their using simply yanks their media from the service?
Way too many unknowns for me to rely on the internet for my gaming/movie entertainment. No thanks.
I'm a diehard physical movie collector but for games, I'm digital. The reason being is for games, it's the exact same product whether you get it on disc or digital. Further more, the disc has become just a license key to unlock the digital version. Games don't even play off the disc anymore. It's just an installer method. I'm not happy about that but it's just reality. With movies, you are getting a better quality product on disc and you aren't beholden to streaming services to carry the movie you want. For older games that actually play off the hardware (360/PS3 and before), I highly favor and encourage physical. For modern games, you are basically shelf collecting.
agree with you
Fact is, digital makes the publishers more money. Pure digital is the end goal, and there's no stopping it.
PC got there first. We've been all digital for a while now. Its not bad on PC. Ive had my Steam account for 19 years and I can still play a 19 year old Steam purchase on modern hardware just fine. Digital purchases on console have no such guarantee. Backwards compatibility is not guaranteed, and stores just shut down when companies are done with them. Nintendo has launched and killed 4 different digital platforms in the same amount of time as I've had my Steam account.
I prefer physical releases. Collectors editions are my favorite.
Hi my fellow collector
You and me both.
With movies and shows going streaming, I lost interest and went back to playing my CDs and DVDs I don't have an always on internet so gaming new stuff is just out. Great Video!
Yeah youtube has been cracking down on conspiracy vids for years
In regards to movies and TV shows, if you were allowed to download and achieve the files, Digital media might have worked. However the providers; iTunes, Google Play and others only allow you to stream the product. What is needed is a Digital Ownership Rights Legislation passed to force providers to allow consumers to be able download, Achieve and play those products that they have legally purchased. The current policies that are bent towards the Corporations and Streaming Services will only push people more and more towards Piracy.
Another great example of power abuse with digital, when Rockstar removed the original copies of Gta 3, vice city, and San andreas from all digital stores. So we could only buy the remastered trilogy which released broken and with fewer licensed songs.
As someone who is into the most volatile form of media on the planet, anime, physical is an absolute must. You think licenses to movies, tv shows and music are a mess, pfft please. Licenses to anime series/movies expire at light speed resulting in shows vanishing in the blink of an eye. Not to mention since anime is foreign the digital versions (provided they're not mainstream) are often significantly more expensive then their physical counterparts. Hell just look at the drama surrounding Evangelion.
I’m originally from Minnesota too.
I prefer physical media over digital media in my opinion.
I slowly started going to Digital media for PC games when my Steam library was growing
I game on PC, but I always buy on GOG. I can play my entire library offline and make backup copies of it.
as the wonderful presentation by that management software went -
"Turn customers into fanatics
products into obsessions
employees into ambassadors
and brands into religions"
Form me with this topic I’m more of with both physical and digital media for movies and games in general it just all depend on which one you prefer use in your opinion to watch or play on there that my thought
I agree completely with you guys. It’s all about power and money. Physical media for me all the way.
You guys need to make a scripted video in a short form because you guys are definitely on to something!
I primarily buy physical especially when it comes too gaming but i do have tk buy digital when i can't buy a physical version of a game i want or I buy digital when it's on sale especially for choice based game
*to. Spelling is hard.
okay I am a person who advicated for if you buy a file or pyshiacl disk you should be able to make hard copries and back up for yourself regardless of how long ago you bought it
To me digital if done right is the best thing. but its never done right.when it comes to digital media. the closest thing we are to digital media is Steam.
Two of the most frustrating examples is Fire Emblem and Super Mario 3D All Stars. Fire Emblem was a physical box of stuff with a download code for the game and that game is no longer available to buy in the eShop for no good reason. Mario 3D all stars did at least get a physical release, but they stopped selling it digitally. Nis America also has games being pulled down from the eShop, i guess due to licensing.
Yes, beside resell a used media, the percentage of a sale in the eshop is way high than perc of a sale in phy store
Got Indiana Jones and Jurassic Park brand new in both cases they were in boxsets from a local store in my town, all movies were included, not a single problem...
Glad I got them both, but if you want those boxset and the likes of Walmart ,Target, Best Buys while neither one of them will sell them, I'd say try the local stores, smaller stores but they might sell them without much problems, provided that you got such option, never know if they have maybe what you're after, try to check some smaller places in the countryside too just in case...
Mgs master collection better have a physical release
There needs to be a second hand digital market. Steam has been amazing for just picking up games on a deal. No other console even comes close to the price cuts for games. However they may change that in the future.
That is why I think monopolies on digital content sales and ownership need to be diversified into second hand markets. If you own a digital game you should be able to post the key for it for sale as ownership rights through a second hand listing.
Im glad i have my physical games! I have Pac-Man championships physical game and noticed my pac man downloaded Ninendo Switch was taken off!
It's not a conspiracy, it's just a logical progression to increase profits for the media companies. You explained it yourselves, less money on manufacturing, retailers, more control. But on the flip side, there is a convenience factor for the consumer, one that outweighs the positives of physical. The best thing is for digital media to be "liberated" through laws, so a game can be transfered to a disc if you want, lent to other people, revert to older versions etc. If I'm not mistaken, like on itunes where you can buy the MP3 of a song but you can do what you want with it.
Its more than the companies wanting to make more money, by cutting out the physical production of games.
Its to change the paradigm of how we consumers interact with the products we consume. They want to change video games, and other industries like the auto industry to more of a subscription based economy, where we own none of it, and just pay a subscription fee to rent and pay for the privilege of playing them.
Complete control and have us lemmings be happy that we own nothing and dont deserve more.
For cars they tried to make everyone buy electric , and have things like heated seating and other features be subscription based, where they can just code out these features anytime you dont pay your fees with over the air updates.
They've turned a large portion of the American public into beta male cucks, and those ppl are more than happy to let these giant corporations control every aspect of their lives. Watch the movie DEMOLITION MAN, to get an idea of why we live in Clown World 2023.
I prefer physical but I will get digital if it's on game pass or an episode of a show I can't find anywhere online like the recent Doctor Who special.
Physical media should be preserved IMO, I don't think these things should be gotten rid of just because the newest hip trend is "jUst gEt iT oNlinE lmao".
The future is always online with ads and commercials. You will open an in game menu and not be able to skip ads.
Physical is tangible and has potential value in the future. Digital comes and goes. Digital value comes from the potential sale of an account which is usually frowned upon. Digital value comes from convenience and space saving.
The thought that for Xmas my sons get a code on a bit of paper is the most depressing feeling ever.
Both physical and digital should exist together in harmony. There should be no 'versus' perception.
I will never pay full price for digital only. I want the whole game on the physical media please thank you.
We should all strive for as much choice as possible because it's makes sure we get the best for the price. The thought that we pay more for effectively less is baffling to me.
I've always wondered this but I wonder if their is a shortage of oil that's forcing the change. I've heard their are shortages.
This is why i have never bought a game on steam. And many of you will make excuses for why steam is ok, but the business model is not ok. Same with blu ray. I rejected blu ray bc it initially required you to update your player due to heavy handed drm. Ive only started collecting blu ray discs now that this is no longer an issue and they are all available for a discount.
**Having to** use extra software from a publisher to play a game you have paid for is not ok. Im fine with not having a disc as long as i have my own local copy of the content that does not require anything but my own pc to run.
Companies are profit driven and have received the wrong message which is that the majority of gamers do not understand or value ownership. Therefore it is ok to write off older gamers especially since they will be replaced over time by younger customers who don't know better.
The whole industry is turning into a subscription based model where there is no physical media. If you are not willing to do without content, the industry has no motivation to try and appeal to you.
Do not be a simp.
I seen this back in '96 when I first got into emulation. Digital is going to be the future. Sign of the times. I always that digital was going to be the future way back then. From getting into emulation in 1996, and then listening to my very first MP3's back in 1997. Hell, even when DVDs were first released in '97, I mean the first word in DVD is Digital.
No lies were told here. Great job guys
Thank you very much!
Two things about subscriptions like Netflix and Xbox Gamepass that bother me, aside from content being modified or removed, is the price keeps going up on these services and people are being brainwashed to say games on Gamepass or Nintendo switch online are "free" but they're not free. If I don't pay for a subscription i cant play those games.
Another thing you guys might want to look into is what Amazon did to Comixology and the digital comic book industry. They messed it up pretty badly.
Ok but many of us who are online in social media l(forums,Utube) have discounted gamepass. There was live gold conversion promotion to upgrade to gamepass ultimate tier. Sony has similar discounted upgrades for its many tiers of PsPlus subscription. Also, on Xbox it can be totally free if you use msft rewards by gaining enough points to redeem for gamepass .
Guys board games are the Best, you can always preserve those hahaha. Because they want everything digital and you own nothing lol. Good luck with seeing your digital games being removed in the future. Like PS 5 is doing with deleting the many movies and people don’t get refund. Just go physical and collect all the games and consoles of the past that you like and just be happy with the game you got. Don’t support digital cloud stuff.
Closed(console) platform vs open(pc) platform cannot ever be compared. Not too mention pc “readily” offers refunds where console does not.
I'm just not interested in investing any meaningful amount of time or money in goods that can be altered or confiscated at any time with no notice. Games are even more egregious; at least films come mostly finished. "AAA" games are being shat out that need multiple 100gb updates to get them over the finishing line months or even years after you purchased them.
It's just a bad God damn deal for consumers, man. It really sucks.
Dvd discs are Forever!
I'm sorry you can't buy a physical house you have to buy a digital house
In a way we're unironically getting to that point in terms of massive companies buying up the housing market and then making people pay for it like a subscription model by only renting houses. It's becoming a huge problem in the US at least. Whole thing is messed up and nuts.
@@DegenerateJay you just need to buy from individuals and not companies
@@DegenerateJay I have a question is the heart button pc-only?
@@DegenerateJayor the absolute explosion of apartment housing. Renting is what gets the most cash. just like AutoPay being advantageous in all situations for a business .
Really enjoyed this conversation. While I prefer physical games, the PS5 physical disks are just a key and you have to download it off the Internet. All the disk does now is verify that you own the digital game. I have some physical and some digital PS5 games. But my concern with PS5 physical is that if they stop support for the game, you can't download it anyways. So either way we are screwed. Thus why I choose to go digital from here on out on the PS5. I still needed a new Blue-ray player anyway so I bought the physical one for that reason. It wasn't until I got the first two physical games that I figured that out.
Plus Nintendo Switch is slowly going that route too. While in the begging of the Switch lifecycle it made sense to go physical since the SD cards at the time were expensive (1TB one at $400-$500 in 2017) now it is cheaper for that tech and go digital. Some switch games have a day one patch as well. Even with the new "Switch 2" I feel like Nintendo will follow Sony and Microsoft with the day one patch and download everything from the internet and it won't be on the cartridge.
The only reason I see physical staying even with PS6 Xbox, and Nintendo "Switch 2" is the fact that they still need the physical retailers to carry their consoles. Will it slowly die out? I can see it in the future, but at the same time, that is where impulse purchases happen for consoles and word of mouth develops so you can sell more systems.
I would love to see you two do a video on the upcoming Alan Wake 2 and how that is a digital only release. I believe most of your thoughts and opinions digital only are well stated in this video but that was a huge internet breaking thing that would warrant a separate video.
Thats wrong.
The games are on the disc's.
Playstation 5 start to install it when its put into the console.
It’s a capitalism problem. These companies want to make their money but cut out as much overhead as possible. If you can make the same or more off of digital but have no manufacturing or movement costs then that’s the money move.
They say "you will own nothing and be happy" that's what you were seeing the start of it's not going to stop there it's going to go to homes and cars too. Get ready, best thing I can tell you if you live in the United States is vote for Trump...
Big supporter of fysical media when we are talking about movies, series and music. But games? ...I mean, do those even work without internet connection 🤔
Probably about 9/10 of them do. It depends on the game though and the effort put into it.
@@DegenerateJay @DegenerateJay ok, so theres little progress on that. Used to buy games time back but stopped when I couldnt even install the game without internet connection. think it was early 2000s, almost every new game was like that 🙄
@@DegenerateJaytrue
dunk
When did consumers get so entitled? The only physical media you should care about is The Bible (yeah, that one 😎)
I do want to make an argument to not being able to find the steel book of Indiana Jones for example. The Jones movies are widely available in DVD box sets, blue ray, VHS and such. So sure, you couldn’t find what you wanted necessarily, but you absolutely can settle for less in a way and get it on a more available format. I understand how it can be annoying for some serious collectors and whatnot. But those films are definitely not scarce by any means.
Pre ordering isn't always a bad thing. It depends on the developers track record for the most part and how development of the game is going up to release.