video game spin offs that became more popular than the original...
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 1 มิ.ย. 2024
- Sometimes video game spin offs eclipse their original game in popularity and become as good (if not better) as the main game.
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Introduction 0:00
Apex Legends/Titanfall 0:23
Mario Kart 2:09
The Sims 5:00
Persona 7:30
Nier Automato 11:47
Hyrule Warriors 14:02
Team Fortress 2 15:15
Counter Strike 16:22
Metroid Prime 17:21
World of Warcraft 19:58
Dota 21:14
Super Mario 22:13
Phantasy Star Online 23:28
Forza Horizon 24:51
Pokemon Go 27:28
Rabbids 29:13
Bloons TD 32:09
Xenoblade Chronicles 33:59
Unreal Tournament 35:37
Dark Souls 37:09
Call of Duty 4: Modern Warfare 38:42
Halo CE 43:31
GTA 3 45:53
Fornite 48:03
PUBG/DayZ 48:55
Metal Gear Rising 51:18 - เกม
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Persona is a spinoff of a spinoff of a spinoff of a pseudo remake of a game adaptation of an OVA adaptation of a 1979 scifi horror novel.
Wtf
@@cansedefoglu1520welcome to shin megami tensei discussion
What’s the name of the novel?
@@Lvuon_the_meme_stocker Digital Devil Story: Megami Tensei
On a similar note oreo despite basically being a knock off of a previously existing cookie became immensely popular and most people don't even know about the original it was based on
Same with penguin biscuits.
Hidrox?
I mean what did they expect when they named it something that sounds like bleach
Hydrox!
Even food getting spin offs nowadays 💀
22:37 I didn't know about this lawsuit so I looked it up and it's hilarious. Universal was suing Nintendo over copy right. Universal Studios claimed donky kong was a rip off of king kong. Well Nintendo won because like 10 years prior universal won a different lawsuit arguing king kong was public domain! 😂 In the article i read the judge apparently said "they couldn't have it both ways"
ironically Nintendo would later lose an equally stupid & frivolous lawsuit....Pixar sued Nintendo over the SNES game Uniracers, claiming the basic & generic CGI unicycles in the game infringed on the basic generic CGI unicycle they animated in one of their shorts ( this was either pre Toy Story or just around the time Toy Story released making Pixar a household name ) and considering this was the mid 90s when CGI was still the new thing the dumbass judge ruled in Pixar's favor. This is why Uniracers ended up having a low print run & has never been re-released or even referenced since
@newageBoundhippie dang.... that is so lame. I love when judges who no nothing about tech make a ruling on tech stuff 😂 blizzard stuff happens. Good thing no body has been able to copyright game mechanics. That would be a nightmare!
@@projectgg6730CGI was pretty new,I dont think any judges knew how it worked
@@deatheater6222 fair. but at the same time universal was suing because of copy right infringement less than a decade after fighting the same thing against someone else and I just find that hilarious lol
Persona is so popular some people thought Shin Megami Tensei is the spin off
mainly because Persona got more international release than SMT in the early days
SMT V started the Atlus worldwide simultaneous releases tho
Persona is just more appealing to the general gaming community. That doesn't make it better though just to clarify
@@lbozo9222 subjective i guess
@@lbozo9222well it is better, so💀
As someone who actually worked on Modern Warfare 2 and played it upon release until MW3 came out, I never heard anybody ever refer to it as COD6. Not even internally, as MW1 was referred to as IW3 because it was their 3rd Call of Duty game and they didn't really recognize Treyarch's titles around that time.
Yooo that’s cool
That recalls memories of the good ol IW4MP from pirate bay lol.
Even the original devs of Metroid consider the Prime series as spin-offs.
Also, Donkey Kong Country is a spin-off of Donkey Kong. And they're way more popular.
They call it a Spin Off but it's more of it's a separate main series
Actually nevermind
P5R blew my mind too when it hit Xbox gamepass. Now I can't stop thinking about it.
play smt nocturne on an emulator (its great)
Mario in itself is an old game now, you see more speedrunners play it more than a casual gamer. Mario kart, is peak casual gaming built perfectly for a younger family and friends. Same with Mario party. No surprise it surpassed traditional Mario.
Another one that most don't bring up is Puyo Puyo. It's a spin-off of Madou Monogatari.
Puyo Puyo got so popular, is the one that gets referenced in Sega games, and goes so far back, that even plenty of its fans don't know that it's a spin off. Puyo Puyo pretty much eclipsed its main series games.
Meanwhile the original team behind those games, Compile('s spiritual successor, Compile Heart) is putting out a new Madou Monogatari game next year, with the Puyo Puyo characters included too.
Ngl, I know about neither of those games 😂
Wait, the Trauma Center games are part of the Shin Megami universe? This is new to me. I knew the art felt familiar and it was created by Atlus but didn't think it had a connection.🤯
And I remember the Dynasty Warriors games being 3D fighters. Good thing they changed the formula.
I think most if not all of Atlus games are connected lol I’m serious btw
@skateorpie There's a game on the Dreamcast which got ported over to the PS2 called MakenX, which has ties to thr SMT universe.
@@lonewolffang trauma center isn't connected at all to the Megaten franchise, they just share some staff because it's Atlus at the end of the day. Make X isn't part of the Megaten franchise either and there's nothing that suggest it's part of the same universe/multiverse. Maken X could be considered an honorary part of the franchise at large since it's not really a Megaten, but it's the same key staff members, same vibes and if you know Maken X you most likely know it from Megaten.
So for donkey kong in the original game mario is called mr jumpman i believe and the reason donkey kong escaped is because mario was an abusive owner also in the original mario all the blocks you break are actually transformed toads so mario in all reality is a bit of a lumatic anyway amazing vid as always
Basing things off sales and brand recognition even outside of gaming, I think Skylanders really outshone its origins in Spyro.
Which was surprising to me at the time as Spyro itself was already quite popular on its own.
definitely a big one that deserved a mention. Plus, the success of Skylanders helped build hype & desire for Spyro to make a comeback which we got with the Reignited Trilogy remakes ( and will hopefully see continue with a Spyro 4 and new Skylanders games now that Microsoft is setting ActiBlizz devs free from the endless drudgery of the CoD mines )
17:29 i would agree: prime takes elements of the metroid series and changes the core gameplay from sidescroller to FPS, its derivative and different and wonderful, and definitely a spin-off
Would that make the 3D Zeldas and Marios spinoffs of the original 2D line of titles? Because everything you just said applies to Mario 64 and Ocarina of Time in their own forms.
@@Cri_Jackal I'd say so myself. I've always considered 3D Mario and Zelda to be wholly different from their 2D counterparts. Not just because of the obvious dimension difference, but mechanically as well. 2D Zelda has a lot more intricate items, puzzles and mechanics going on than the 3D ones (like say, Oracle of Ages' Switch Hook, or Minish Cap's Cane of Pacci), while 3D Zelda has more going on in the combat instead of the other items, and also tends to be more about 1 on 1 fights than a room full of enemies treated as obstacles like 2D Zelda.
The Metroid Prime trilogy was set in between the 1st and 2nd original Metroid games, it’s not a spinoff and is in fact set in the same universe.
@@M1d32 They meant spin-off in terms of mechanics, rather than narrative. The Prime games play nothing like the 2D games, so they feel like a spin-off series of games mechanically.
@@tamerkoh Metroid Prime is basically 3D Super Metroid but in 1st person, would you say Ocarina of Time was a spin-off of a Link to the Past?
Titanfall slaps Apex does not
redditors be like titanfall 2 is so underrated 😭😭😭 eventhough it’s perfectly rated
Titanfall fans try not to jerk off the game at every opportunity challenge
@@mooseeggs4999 It's hard when Apex gets all the attention from Respawn.
@@ALLMINDmercenarysupportsystem you can just not think about apex bro
@@mooseeggs4999 I usually don't. But when I do, I just get a little disappointed.
You haven't done enough research on MW2. The original Infinity Ward who made MW2, wanted to distance themselves from CoD, which is why they have a lot of the trailers and early promo material as only Modern Warfare 2. Activision didnt like this and actually had a lot of beef with the developers forcing them to put CoD back in its title. Aside from this there were many internal disputes including the developers not getting their 100s of millions in bonuses as agreed, followed in a huge legal battle that the developers ended up winning and forming Respawn Entertainment, who are the creators of Titanfall and Apex
Man Metal Gear Rising Revengeance certainly has a large fan base but it definitely did not overshadow the entire Metal gear solid franchise. Very much a spinoff gameplay and setting wise.
in terms of wide appeal it certainly did, its a lot more popular than any of the big metal gear games right now
@@thechugg4372 I just think when people think of metal gear they think of the older ones, generally. Revengeance definitely did get a big boost recently tho.
Momotaro Dentetsu is a spin off Momotaro Densetsu which became way more popular and confusing anyone who dips their toes in Famicom RPGs then be confused when a board game is mentioned. The S is the RPG and the T is the board game, and the board games which are the spin off which are way more popular.
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Surprised Puyo Puyo wasn't brought up. Then again, people rarely speak about Madou Monogatari outside of Japan, and there's legal issues surrounding it.
Also Legend of Heroes and Momotaro Dentetsu.
It's also a spin-off of bubsy (No joke!)
Actually, the legal issues aren't really that existent anymore. Compile Heart, the studio that is made up of ex-Compile employees, is making and releasing a new Monogatari next year, with Sega allowing them to use the Puyo Puyo characters.
14: 03 The wild part of about games like Hyrule Warriors being Spin Offs from the Dynasty Warriors Franchise is, that the entire Dynasty Warriors Franchise is a Spin off itself. The Original Dynasty Warriors on PS1, known in Japan as Sangokumusō, was considered to be a Spin Off from the Romance of the Three Kingdoms / Sangokushi Strategy games. The game that most of the world knows as Dynasty Warriors 2 was released in Japan as Shin Sangokumusō, and Koei Tecmo doesn´t consider the PS1 game as part of this line of games, thus making the games from the PS2 onward a Spin Off Franchise. That makes Hyrule Warriors a Spin Off from a Spin Off from a Spin Off from a Book Adaptataion.
Really enjoy the videos, great topics!
19:31 The Metroid Prime games are canon with the 2D titles and Other M. They’re both in the same universe. Funny thing is that all the Metroid Prime games take place in between Metroid 1 and 2 (with Prime: Hunters happening between Prime 1 and Prime 2).
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It’s insane how ea decided to compete with its self by releasing battlefield and titanfall at the same time
they just wanted to kill titan fall because they couldnt milk it for cash like apex
The Dynasty Warriors spinoffs are an interesting case imo.
Because most of them are pretty damn fun, but they get slept on by fans of both original series.
Like I know Hyrule Warriors is mostly an arcade game, but Age of Calamity has my second favourite story out of the Wild Era trilogy of Zelda games.
Even if it's not canon (or an earlier timeline split) due to conflicting story details that occur before Terrako even goes back in time.
And yes, I think Strikers counts as a Warriors game as it's classed as such on the Japanese site and the English wikipedia.
It just redesigns some of the mechanics to fit the Persona 5 lore and gameplay, similar to how the Master Cycle was redesigned as a weapon for Zelda in Age of Calamity.
The two Attack on Titan games they made are sometimes counted as well because mechanics from it were brought over to the mainline Warriors games, but they're a lot lighter with the usual gameplay.
World of warcraft isn't supposed to be an spin off though, it's literally the sequel they planned for warcraft 3
Amazed by the exclusion of Portal from the Half Life series
hey there's a Halo 3 easter egg that used to be known on TH-cam but seems to be lost now, on the level the covenant when you go for the hidden music location, if you go further you'll find a wall with a picture of a grunt in a triangle, I know this exists as I have several memories of the videos
update: upon much research in a day, came across the term trigate which seems to bring me very close to what I'm searching for
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45:32 so, yes, i would classify halo as a spiritual spinoff because of how engrained marathon’s themes/iconography is in halo,
in the same breath, i would still classify bioshock as a spiritual successor to system shock because it’s less closely related (albeit still related, just less than marathon/halo)
19:46 Metroid Prime games are Canon to the mainline series. There used to be a debate before cause the main games never referenced Prime. But as of Samus Returns, the final boss was reconned to be Meta Ridley same as the Prime 3. It chronologically takes place right after that game.
As someone that never gave Titanfall a chance until #2 was in sale for $5, EA would be foolish to not make another one
I'd buy that on day one
The Metroid Prime games have been confirmed as canon to the mainline series; they’re just a side story arc in the timeline, that’s all.
That said, I think they still qualify as spinoffs, since the Prime arc is mostly self-contained and the games themselves have a different dev team and gameplay style. Great inclusion, though; I wasn’t expecting to see them appear on this list!
Metroid Prime isn’t a spin-off. All 3 games take place after Metroid 1 but before Metroid 2, when Samus goes forward to wipe the metroids all out. I remember reading that years ago.
That's a spinoff, completely different gameplay formula.
Spinoffs can still be canon, and I’d say the Prime games certainly qualify as one. It was decided pretty early in Prime 1’s development that the Prime games would be part of the timeline; their story arc was just kept largely self-contained and unrelated to the mainline story, instead focusing on new planets and characters. This was a deliberate choice to give the devs working on the Prime and 2D games as much creative freedom as possible, without having to worry about contradicting each other.
@@deathtrooper2048no it’s still a Metroid game just in 3D and first person. A spin-off is Super Mario Bros. to Mario Kart to Mario Party, completely different genres with the same characters and IP. 2D Metroid and 3D Metroid are still basically the same thing. You couldn’t get Metroid Prime without having Metroid or Super Metroid first to build off of.
Guess im one of the few people that loved the first Nier, the soundtrack is a masterpiece.
One thing worth noting about Mario Kart 8 Deluxe is that it has its own bundle with the Switch.
Still super popular though, and incredibly fun. Just worth noting.
I prefer Mario Kart myself over the main series too.
The prime games are canon to the main Metroid games (even the prime spinoff are canon)
Did I see that snowman from that virtual boy game called jack brothers?
Not including Skyrim is just a punch in the balls 😭😭😭
World of Warcraft was originally marketed as WarCraft 4 and was supposed to pick up the story at the end of The Frozen Throne expansion for WarCraft 3, which I would say makes it a sequel, even taking into account the massive departures WoW expansions have taken from the original trilogy's narrative - since they never made another RTS game to follow up WarCraft 3, WoW is still officially part of the core storyline and should be treated like a sequel.
Super Mario Kart originally was gonna be an F-Zero sequel
Yup it’s was originally multiplayer F-Zero.
i thought Halo's downward spiral would be the death of this channel. But you keep gushing out interesting stuff! Glad to see you're staying afloat!
Yo where’s Trails part of the legend of heroes series ?
Was not sure where to put this but, how plausible would it be to see a video describing all the Halo bundles with xboxes? Like Halo 1's translucent green Xbox and Halo 2's Translucent blue Xbox released in Canada, Europe and Asia.
a full persona rocket sloth video would be great
i used to love rayman and the raving rabbids when i was younger lmfao
Dynasty warriors is a spin-off of itself, the first Dynasty warriors was a 1v1 fighting game but only released in Japan. That's why Dynasty warriors 2 in JP is Dynasty warriors 1 in the rest of the world.
I loved drakengard 2 on PS2. I'm still waiting to get drakengard 3 on PS3 at some point but the games have become a bit more expensive than I'd like for old games but one of these days
I don't think CS and TF count as spinoffs because they're not in the same IP as the original
Titanfall is my second favorite SciFi shooter IP after Halo
EDIT : You need to finish NieR, the game starts at the end of your first run, I'm not exaggerating anyting here bro, trust me !
It was Infinity Ward that wanted to brand it solely as Modern Warfare 2, but Activision went above their heads and branded it as Call of Duty: Modern Warfare 2. Cos Infinity Ward didn’t want to be lumped up with Treyarch, they originally didn’t like the fact that Treyarch made the 3rd game as to them Call of Duty: Modern Warfare was known as Call of Duty 3 internally.
I cant wait for my kids to never stand a chance against me in mario kart
I think Vice City and San Andreas aren't numbered because they take place in the past.
Simant slaps, needs a remake for sure. So many hours into thst thing even just the solo stuff.
mario 64 was not bundled.. it was just one of 2 games you could get on release.
Ur explanation about Rayman rabbits is 100% why I ignored it. Felt it wasn't cool enough 😂😂
Wasn't the Gears of War Franchise a spin off of unreal tournament too
Another spin off. Super smash bros, the assist trophy character sukapon from a Japan exclusive super famicom game I can’t for the life of me is called but it has the same types of fighting style of special moves, push the other players off the platform and button combos in more of the same vein as smash then other games like street fighter
You're kind of right with the Call of Duty. The change came with Activision's own research. People recognized the Call of Duty name. Modern Warfare lost something like 40% name recognition. I don't remember the exact number but it was huge. They didn't want to risk losing those potential sales, so the COD got added back in.
If anyone doesn’t know, Titanfall 2 is being updated by an unknown person/group (multiplayer now works perfectly fine after the DDoS attacks 2 years ago) and Titanfall 2 is having an anniversary celebration this weekend. New game modes, new maps for frontier defense, and more. So if you haven’t played TF2 in a while, now’s the time. Bring some friends along too!
Persona only became popular during the waifu collecting era. Look at P1 and P2 duology.
Yeah.... its a shame to see, considering p2 had easily the best story in the persona series.
W Persona. 5 can def be overwhelming at first cuz it takes persona 3 and 4s mechanics and absolutely perfects them. It’s insane. If you like 5 you’re gonna love Persons 3 Reload. Persona 3 story is the best story I have ever experienced.
You should play persona 2 duology, and some of the other smt games
@@Noja2 yeah definently, persona 2 is and ep are fucking good. And nocturne oooo baby god is it fucking good.
@@christinablixthenningsson3529 have you played digital devil Saga? Sorry for my english btw
@@Noja2 yes i have
8:43 bruh that's some serious praise. Yahtzee from zero punc loves persona too. I might have to give it a crack.
my friends convinced me to play persona
it was a good choice! very fun games. unironically has changed me as a person a bit
@@kj_uwu if you liked persona, check out smt. And since you like personas party members ( i hope) try digital devil saga. Its a great game thats more character driven, basically persona but better.
17:24 i think that Metroid Prime inadvertently turned the 2d metroids into spin offs in a weird way
I remember on PSN. The game always said for example MikeOTR playing Modern Warfare 2
So I have to wait for Apex to end before I can play Titanfall again…
Nier is such an amazing series with heartbreaking stories specially with brother nier and rose/zero from drakengard but i think its one of the greatest games with even more astonishing soundtrack
As a Forza Motorsport fan, I *hate* how much attention got shifted to Forza Horizon. You can't even buy Forza 7 anymore.
I saw Apex in the thumbnail and laughed, lemme see what I can learn from this and as I'm typing he's talking about Titanfall
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Hey you Pikachu leaves me with a sadness i havent recovered from. I really thought Pikachu hated me and thats why he refused to listen 😢
I.... absolutely.... HATE.... the Rabbids. Same as I hate the Minions and Olaf the Snowman.
There’s so many stretches in this video
I hate the rabbids too. They were annoying as fuck as a child and now I hate them even more than ever before.
Honestly Mario and Rayman should’ve been the crossover instead
RIP Mainline SMT
They made SMTV a few years back, apparently it was a hit, but personally I think the Persona series is more cohesive.
SMT5 is backk now
Maybe it's just me but I'm surprised Nintendo Gamecube didn't sold that well considering it had alot of people favorite first party games from many series. Such as Mario Kart Double Dash, Fire Emblem - Path of Radiance, F-Zero GX, Pokemon Colosseum and XD, Metroid Prime, and Paper Mario - The Thousand-Year Door. There are many more good games, but these are the games that people consider the best in their series even to this day which is alot better than just good. Not to mention Tales of series although not the best, it did became as iconic as it is today through gamecube aka Tales of Symphonia. And for Mario Party people favorite is either Nintendo 64 version or the Gamecube version, so Gamecube is up there for Mario Party too.
Pretty wild. I wonder if it has something to do with Gamecube not being all that portable, or not having a very unique mechanic like the DS, Wii, and Switch? Lol XD
People say the games are the things that sell the console, like both Switch and original Xbox had. But I guess this proves that doesn't get applied everytime though sadly, lol XD
Ain’t P5R just the same story with some new characters?
i LOVE Team Fortress 2, Quake, Halo, Unreal.
how are you not gonna include osrs?
world of warcraft is a direct sequel to warcraft 3
Just a note about Forza Horizon 5. If you look at the leaderboards, Forza Horizon 5 has over 32 million players now
Well Modern Warfare was called Call of Duty 4
And then it itself a sequel, so I think of it more of a sub series
If you don't talk about puyo puyo being a spin-off of some sort of RPG I'm done
Wouldn’t League of Legends also be on here. Because it was a parody to DOTA and is sooo massive now?
More of the spiritual spinoff as they call it. It does have prominent devs from DOTA's long history.
Damn the og halo 3 gamefuel is so nice
I had rabbids alive and kicking lol
Metroid Prime stories all take place within the main 2d metorid timeline. There have been some retcons with the relase of Prime Trilogy which changed some log text entries to be more consistent with what Prime 2 & 3 story. Honeslty i dont think the Prime games are spin offs. Would you consider Ocarina of Time and MM as spin off because they were 3d and the only Zelda games before that were 2d. Great that you guys know about Metroid, its Nintendo most slept on franchise. I really hope we get the last 2 prime games on switch to get more people to play them
I would consider 3D Zelda a spinoff, yes, even though it's part of the official timeline. The gameplay is so very different between the 2D games and the 3D games, they almost feel like completely different genres. The 2D games have more intricate items and puzzles (like say Oracle of Ages' Switch Hook or Minish Cap's Cane of Pacci), while the 3D games have more of a focus on combat than anything else. That alone makes the design feel very different. Doesn't mean they aren't good though, but it's easy to see why there're schisms in the playerbases as well. Those who prefer 2D Zelda like me, and those who prefer 3D Zelda, cause they're wholly different beasts.
Metroid prime isn’t even a spin-off and it’s not more popular than 2D Metroid games, Metroid Dread is the best selling game in the franchise, and there’s no uncertainty or confusion about if it’s canon to the older games, it takes place between the original Metroid on the NES and Metroid II on the gameboy
Prime is a spin off.
@@deathtrooper2048I don’t think you understand what a spin-off is. Metroid Prime is a mainline Metroid game, it’s basically 3D Super Metroid in 1st person.
Metroid Prime is absolutely more popular, Dread sold well cause it came out at the right moment at the right time on the right console
Aside from what was already discussed about Valve games in the video is how ridiculous that it went from Quake Engine to Half-Life to Counter-Strike to Left 4 Dead.
Left 4 Dead's prototype being based on CS:S really makes this a long chain of connections, even if it is not a spin-off at all
the dude in the thumbnail sorta looks like Anton Chigurh from No Country For Old Men if he were older, nerdier and his hair were a bit shorter
PERSONA 5 MENTIONED!!!!!!!!!!!!
WORST GAME EVER MADE MENTIONED!!!!!!!!!
@@christinablixthenningsson3529 me when i never played the game
@@YurieSnowie i literally have.... and i dont like it.
Titanfall 3 we hope and pray ...
Im surprised you made that entire section on call of duty without even doing research on it, it was a big mess internally, the team that made cod 4 wanted the modern warfare series to be their own separate from the call of duty brand
Unreal 1 and 2 are fantastic games
Sim Ant was the best sim game
I think modern warfare actually should count as a spinoff, because cod 3 connects to world at war, which connects to black ops. Modern warfare, since before the 2019 reboot, has always been pretty self contained.
the Classical Team Fortesss is a little underrated TF2 is totally fun for me Counter Strike was okay.
It was expected. . .
30:55 dude since when was rabbids rated 12