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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 26 พ.ย. 2022
- The point of this video isn't to display a very scientific test, I just want to get the idea out there. I'm sure I could have taken more time on this to make a conclusive exhibit out of it, but I feel the people that will benefit from this the most don't need that. Worst case scenario is this does nothing and the game lives on as is. Myself amongst others just want to see it in a better place.
Edit: The developers immediately acknowledged the presence of this problem after my stream clip and video here on it so this has essentially become irrefutable. Let us hope for a proper fix soon.
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Haha what joke of a video. A guy who cries about recoil while running through BF1 with an obvious aimbot. You're just trash dude. A pro tip, set the smooth aim on your aimbot a little bit lower so it looks more natural. xD
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damn dude stop hoarding so many chromosomes
LOL Pinned 😆
like...have you ever tried flicking? obviously im no Nox, but damn dude i only have a year on PC and i have taught myself how to twitch on to ppl. its called time+effort+belief.
The shame pin
Literally produce a better product
thank god you're here
Lmao
I’m so glad I caught your stream when you were talking about this live. Excellent find. Hopefully this can point DICE in the right direction on making the game feel a bit better. 👍🏻
I felt this from day one but didn't know how to describe it. I just said it felt like I was hitting a wall while controlling recoil. Especially with fast RPM guns. Its nice to see others figuring out what's going on.
Yep, and no matter how hard I try to pull down, it won't go. It's especially infuriating against prone players, so I've resorted to semi-auto and tap firing the head as best I can. It's a dps nerf and puts me at a disadvantage should an enemy at close range come up, I'd have to take the extra milliseconds to switch back to full-auto.
Very good find and the cam on your hand is very very useful to figure out what you are really saying in this video! Great stuff! I hope Dice can fix it fast.
>comes to play for a few days
>literally pinpoints a bug that no one in the dev team and the community could figure out
>leaves
>gigachad moment
Even if you never come back to play 2042 again, I will always be thankful for this, no matter how insignificant it might seem to you or anybody
Hopefully we see some positive change from this! That's all really any of us have ever wanted, a good feeling game lol
@@Baranox Considering Enders send all receipts to developers, it's reasonable to assume they will find a fix for this, hopefully sooner than later
@@thebigsam wouldn't surprise me if they don't know how to fix it 🤣
nice work Lord Baranox, you have forever changed the legacy of Battlefield 2042! much respect from a fellow casper main.
Thanks for finding this out for us and dice to fix soon hopefully!
I found out one important detail as I tested this myself. Upon firing full-auto with M+KB, the reticle will drift above the center of the screen, and when you begin to correct the recoil, you must first bring the reticle back to the center of the screen before you can pull the screen itself down (and the reticle stays in center). This is why when the reticle drifts up as you're shooting, you hit a "wall" before you feel like you have control of the recoil again.
In older BFs (mid-BF4 through BFV), the reticle stayed at the center of the screen no matter what, so when you corrected recoil, you immediately pulled the screen down. This is yet another example of DICE "fixing" something that was never broken.
This is like the main reason I don't really play BF2042. It always felt like my mouse would just stop working for a short period when shooting and it always got me fucked
3:38 gigachad moment
yup very much happens all the time. thanks for putting effort into this as no one was able to figure out whats wrong but this is huge
Baranox upload? We up!
Too bad it’s about 2042 being broke. (Shocking)
I KNEW THERE WAS SOMETHING WRONG WITH MY RECOIL, It feels like someone is in my house and grabbing my mouse and pulling it different places, that's the best way I can put in to words how it feels
I'm in your walls
@@AngelBruni you are the one that moves my mouse
@@Willicur yes.
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It;s finally been found out what's wrong. massive thanks to you lord baranox
This unsong hero will save Bf !
It’s the same on console controller. No recoil control then suddenly jumps past where your trying to control it to.
Was one of the reasons I uninstalled the game along with getting lasered by PC players
Hey dude, been watching some of your crazy clips and trying to emulate some of your mouse movement playstyle since your the GOAT in battlefield aiming. What is your mouse lift off distance? Do you have it set to low or high? Thanks bro and keep slayin
Very interesting discovery, while I feel like the input is much better than it was at launch, going from aim lab straight to the game has always felt off. Don't really get how something like this made it into the game but needless to say it needs to get fixed. Maybe it'll help it feel better once it does
Some weird thing that can happen in pc is when I try to shot a guy it switches to knife and trying to knife him meters away then I died
thank you for the tutorial.
Respectfully, just so you know, the audio recording & upload has heavy unfavorable bass frequencies triggering subwoofers in the typical 0-120-125-135hz range and you could simply add a reducitve shelf eq to reduce the lower frequencies, and can probably see a live enviornment EQ in any DAW with an EQ with your pre existing youtube videos audio added to see how much to reduce the low frequencies by if you are interested in maximizing the audio quality of your videos
thank you for your service boss 🙏
I noticed it but I couldn’t explain whats really happening . You explain it really good .
Its like Dice purposely trying to sabotage their own game . There must be a reason why the game Is that trash .
Hey Baranox! Very good way of demonstrating what we all felt but couldn't explain! If you haven't yet, you should post a shorter version of this on reddit! Maybe one clip from 2042 and then one clip from any other game.
3:11 Does this lag apply to horizontal mouse input as well or only vertical? I'd test it myself but I've uninstalled this garbage :)
Hey Zodhr!
I really can't be sure if there is anything going on with horizontal recoil since it is so much less pronounced than the vertical recoil. I'm sure there could be something wrong there but it would be much harder to investigate at least using the methodology I lined out here.
Recently i have been playing but when i move my mouse too quick it randomly starts to slow down and the camera get a really bad lag. So idk how to fix it other than reducing my dpi :/
I imagine this is something I'd notice if/when it gets fixed, but I don't really struggle with aiming in-game. Maybe I've just played enough to be adapted to it.
i was going crazy. this is so apparent on the sfar legendary skin with the default red dot..the recoil is so crazy like uncontrollable
Can you share your thoughts on Halo? Infinite, MCC, etc. Would LOVE to see some recent gameplay from you
Baranox how did u do start focusing on ur aim? like what did u do to get ur self there and without like years of playing ofc u had to start focusing on aim so how did u do it
Baranox video about this issue > Enders videos.
After last update i lose every gunfight. Im pressing right click and shoot and takes a second in some weapons. Also when im switching to syringe pistole and clicking to fire from 10 times it fires the 5-6.
Baaaarrraaanooooxxxx !🤟🏽🖤 hey man I wish the absolute best for you! Have an amazing Day/night! I used to loooove watching you live on vanguard just harvesting controllers👊🏽😊
Appreciate the love man, take care!
This probably is also the reason why most people feel a mouse input problem, because the Recoil is completely broken. This doesn't only affect pulling down the mouse, but also when tracking enemys in any direction... and the latest "Recoil Bug FIX" didn't do anything. I feel like the "fix" even made it worse, because all they did is lowering the vertical recoil, which actually increases this strange mouse jumping. And it made many guns completely overpowered.
Dice obviously don't even understand what's the actual problem here, or they don't want to invest the time and money into fixing it.
Correct
Thanks for including the hand cam, Baranox!
I’m 🥔😊
You can clearly see the difference between good mouse input and bugfield 2042 input , still can't believe they haven't fixed this as yet, really shame on them ,oh btw love the mic quality 😎
What program do you use for that green dot crosshair?
@1:40 I wonder if they are trying to create “momentum” from recoil?
Integrating, or summing, the recoil in some goofy way?
Or another bug, I mean, c’mon, there are like 3 or 4 bugs in 2042’s new -SlapDash- upgraded Frostbite Engine
You know this may be consistent with the lag problems the game has, with soldier input. You know how when you press the knife button or the grenade button and it takes almost a full year for it to actually happen? Well I think they might have something to do with each other.
Oh God yes, the amount of time actions take is beyond annoying! Popping a smoke, then healing and reloading sequence makes me wanna go afk and get some tea
I enjoy quick throw but I hold the grenade and one flies out of my chest, like I’m Iron Man
This should be easy to fix, i hope devs will get on it asap.
Deserves a subscription 👍
LORD BARANOX
On pc even a banana got 0 recoil while on console a soldier who shout "bang bang" with a wooden stick will recoil to the moon
hmm,, so thats why i've been able to achieve smooth aim tracking in BF1/BF V compared to BF 2042 which is really weird to do Aim Track to the enemies :/
What is your mouse? Your grip? And sens? Just curious :) I will be very very grateful for answer
do you have mouse acceleration in windows turned off?
Game is unplayable for me. Thought I was having fps drops. Then maybe mouse input. Finally I turned all the network stats on and realized every time I get into a gun fight I get a huge ping jump. This doesn’t happen in vehicles only when I fire my gun or I am shot. like wtf lol. Only game I have issues wt.
Your high sens gameplay is a pleasure to watch. I play on the complete opposite spectrum at low sens, so my insta-flicks are limited to pretty much the front. Is it worth trying out high sens or even medium sens?
Sens is "meaningless" you can aim good with any sensitivity so just mess around with it
@@Kuchen. There is still a "best" sens for finger, wrist, and arm aiming unique to each person. But I'll go play around in Kovaak
I tried to pay attention, professor, but u bullying the friendly arty off the hill had me dead
I had to do it to em
I’ve been gaming on pc for over 12 years now and you easily have the best aim I’ve seen. You, dfalt, relaaa, and mpcontrolward are inhuman lol
This is interesting. It sounds plausible, and a 'weird' mouse feel could logically be expected with this.
The game has a uniquely bad mouse feel and a uniquely bad recoil management method. On the bright side, if DICE can realise this, that means that the issue isn't just spaghetti code anymore. Any dev team worth their salt should have an easy time fixing it.
what's your sensitivity and dpi?
i play with 100 cm/360 and if felt so much slower in this game than any other games. And i feel it especially when i shoot
i was wondering why it was fucking impossible to kill headglitching enemies from anywhere other than cqc
Thx for the update
Ah ha!. Explains why I feel like I cannot track enemies left or right while firing.
whats his mousepad
There is a mechanic in BF3 that I call "counter recoil control". Which lowers the sight automatically, after firing by controlling its recoil. The longer you have controlled your recoil, the more the sight will lower at the end of the shot.
I imagine it was intended to prevent players from switching easily between two targets, shooting burst or full.
I don't remember this mechanic being present in BF4, but it's back in 2042, even after we tracked a target. However, I noticed that this "counter recoil control" only happened half the time, when I tested it on 2042, by tracking left, then right. Maybe that's the cause of this recoil "bug".
In any case, thank you for your research and happy marriage. 😉
Luckily this has been confirmed by the developers as an actual bug and is being fixed. How well the fix works we are yet to see.
the master him self
top notch video
aiming could be affected by movement, just like how recoil is eliminated by recoil smoothing in apex legends
please upload cnosistenly youre cracked af
👍 after I see the video on Enders i Test it on PC and Playstation 4 , it's really awesome this discover... EA should pay u for this . Another problem is that will affect the phisic of the game, that's the problem 🤔😉 Make the test with flying vehicles on 2042 vs other battlefield, is ridiculous, the phisic of the game is broken
Is this bug on console?
The problem who makes that are the game Phisics, for fix it they will need to change all game again 🙈, but will be great if they do it... Again, thanks for this, i hope EA/Dice will check it
The aiming defintely feels off in 2042 and its not good.
I still feel the mouse input deceleration, wtf is Dice doing with their game all this time? Fuc*ng hell this is frustrating
FINALLY IM NOT THE ONLY WAY WITH THIS FREAKIN MOUSE S**T!!!
It great to see people who truly care about Battlefield. If they fix this can you tell them to bring back bf4 soldier movement and jumping. And also if they gonna add Cod slide can we actually get a whole slide instead of a sli 😂😂😂
Thanks Dice I'm glad you are completely competent at your job.
It's the most obvious with the AM40
Again, thank you for the work. I hope 2042 can propell even further.
Hey Dice, remind us - did you _actually_ playtest this game *at all?* 🤣🤣🤣
I went through this frame by frame using the frame forward and frame backwards keys (, and .)....the weapon stops moving up in the same frame you begin moving the mouse in 2042 and begins moving down the very next frame.
I get that the weapon doesnt move instantly at the same speed your mouse is moving after catching recoil and kind of catches up as you move down.....but I have always just understood that as overcoming the momentum of the weapon already moving in a particular direction AND still having force applied in that direction.
To me it seems intuitive and not something that needs to be "fixed"...these things are supposed to be chonky weapons firing live ammo with significant forces being imparted on them....not plastic shells firing beams of light. It would be wrong if a weapon that had not been handled correctly dumping the first half of the mag could instantly and accurately be returned to 100% compliance mid mag dump.
Please stop.
I have over 10 000 hours in fps games, including CS GO ( the one i played the most), Rust, valorant, rainbow six siege, multiple CODs, some smaller fps games like warface etc, and recently I bought bf 5, and it is great and then bf 2042, and I CANNOT control the recoil most of the times, because of what you have shown in this video, I felt the first time I played 2042, i would strongly suggest not to buy this game.
This game has so many fundamental problems lol
The end of an era.
They killed the Battlefield franchise.
I personally use a really low sens and never ever had a problem with recoil, but with this game I sometimes don't have enough vertical space on my pad to control te recoil of a long burst, it's incredibly disgusting.
JAKKU: It is incredibl …
DICE: Thank you!
JAKKU: Please , let me finish. It is incredibly disgusting
DICE: oh
same, i find myself running out of space and my finger is also hurting and getting cramps from pulling so much on the lateral of the mouse.. i can control it, sort of, but i get physicaly hurt doing so, jesus.
@@hellwashere3821 I don't know what sens do u use, I play on 42cm/360° and have an XXL pad, quite literally when I need to fire a really long burst (or fight multiple targets quickly) I end up having no space, I have to stop, move my mouse upwards, land it, and then start dragging again. That thing made me lose so many 2v1's or fast engagements that I would've won in BFV/4.
@@aim4jakkusu i have a medium mouse pad, playing 1080p on a 27 inch, i have 800 dpi and sense is like 12 or so on settings, i too sometimes have to literaly lift the mouse to restart the recoil control, this game man...try using the XM8 LMG you will see what i mean ahah
@@hellwashere3821 your sens it's almost 3 times higher than mine, and you still have problems with dragging, lol .-.
has this been fixed yet?
Being worked on apparently, I’ve heard patch after next
@@Baranox so no reason to re-download yet lol. not gonna play a game where moving the mouse doesnt work
@@westbomb Same
@@Baranox I actually been playing darktide. Maybe throw some of that on your channel
@@westbomb I've been playing it every day, awesome game
Make a video for MW2
Wish you did 2024 tests slowly like others. But it's apparently been patched so good work.
it didn't get patched! It's even worse then before.
@@infinitestars394 really? Seen some videos of others claiming it's fixed? Or was at least meant to be
You pulled the mouse down in 2042 much faster than you did in the other games. I'm not saying your conclusions are wrong, but it doesn't make your comparison apples to apples due to the drastic speed difference.
If you think that's bad...try controller
And then at 3 minutes in you just start showing us random footage that has nothing to do with your tests or bug you're talking about? And you never at any point pulled slowly to see what kind of an effect that would have? What kind of anti scientific method bandwangony garbage is this?! I wonder if you even tested this after they apparently "fixed" this "bug" lmao. These content creators are wild these days
Rich coming from a dude who cheats.
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