How Fast & How Much? - Nitro MP9 RTR to 1/8 Race Buggy - Part 6
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Ok i have to admit i loved this series!
Please do more like this!
Thanks Kermit. Will do.
-Brett
Also I raced 15yrs ago nitro stadium trucks but is there another good buggy RTR nitro 1 8th scale that'd cheaper and can compare to this?? I can spend about 800 or 900 bucks freely on a car and setup
Vape Clouds901 I would like to see them do another nitro build where they spend the most money on the buggy it’s self more of what you want instead of what you need then compare them both to see if it’s worth it
I think this series is very helpful for individuals who are thinking about going nitro and don't know where to begin. Sure for those who race competively its easy to say just buy a kit and buy the better components, however lets not forget that people have budgets so an rtr would make more financial sense for them since it comes with enough to get started and also they might not race it competitively either in the beginning. Others have said get a preowned kit but there again comes the expense of getting the items to run it if someone isn't selling it artr. I also believe that RTR's are meant to help new people come into this wonderful hobby of ours and learn how to improve their platforms and skills to where they will feel comfortable building a kit from scratch and be truly competitive remember you gotta learn to crawl before you can walk/ run.
I know this is old, but i've just recently caught that fire to get into it as a new track opened up near me for off road. I've been trying to do research on which RTR platform would be the best and this is exactly my mindset. I wanted to get a good base chassis and as i get more into it, be able to upgrade it.
Back then a lot of race ready cars were sold as rtr’s but since the sport of racing is now only being carried on by rich guys who will spend buttloads of money for big name products, companies sell everything separately because they know people are sucker enough to pay for it. I have dominated high end 4wd nitro race truggies on my RTR 2wd nitro slash with minor upgrades (shocks, a-arms, tires. Pretty much it). You might be able to buy your way to 1st place but skill is gonna pay off more and be more impressive. Don’t let consumerism fool ya ;)
@@MightAsWellBeMe What? Race-ready RTRs? From what I remember all high-end race cars came as kits. RTRs are a very new thing in this hobby. Consumerism? No as technology advances and with all the R&D put into these things the prices are very fair. You obviously haven't been in the hobby long enough to know that it was 3 times as much money years ago to get into this hobby. Yall are spoiled these days. Dominated high-end truggies with a modified 2wd nitro slash? Now I know you blowing smoke up this kid's butt. Ain't no way you dominated with a 2wd in a 4wd race. You're smoking some seriously bad sh*t. Stop selling lies you quack. Your whole comment reeks of jealousy of those who can afford to buy the good stuff. Yes, skill is important but it can only get you so far. especially with other skilled drivers that have better equipment. I swear there isn't an ounce of logic in your brain.
I’m super stoked to see more videos of the MP9 series! They’ve been amazing so far
You can see from that hair that you had less then 6hours of sleep :D
He looks like Vince Vaughn lol
Georgio Tsoukalos is impressed!
This is an outstanding series. It shows an RTR can be competitive. I think people should realize that with the exception of tires you don't have to buy all the improvements at once. If I remember correctly this was not the newest RTR from Kyosho. Thanks for doing it. As some one mentioned I would like to see more video series like this series.
Not gonna lie, this serie made me wanna start racing! Ty a lot Bret!
I absolutely love this kind of series. I’m just now finding this and really enjoyed it.
Love the Hair. I didn’t know that you actually had any !!!
Great content. I’m researching RC off road and this series has been excellent. Your delivery is great, I have learnt so much. Thank you
I find it interesting that so many people are saying that buying a kit would have been comparable in price or even more affordable. Most of what was purchased would be needed for a kit anyhow (servos, wheels and tires, starter box, batteries, etc) and then add in an engine, pipe, radio equipment, and everything else needed and you would be far beyond the totals in this series. I think this was a great way of showing a financially accessible entry to the racing side of the hobby with room to grow when the budget allows. Well done!
I can’t even understand why a kit would be comparable to this price shown in the video. A kit alone will probably cost you at least $500 depending which brand you pick, another 300 for a competitive engine in which then you need to get a tune pipe for it , servo’s ,batteries , starter , Tx , tires, Tools, etc etc.
Thank you for doing this series Brett. I JUST purchased a Kyosho MP9 TKI4 Readyset from you guys after researching a ton. This video set really helped me make my decisions. Racing footage to see the car run was extremely helpful as well. Even followed suit with some of the same upgrades as well. Love your videos bro. You are the man!
That's terrific. You picked a great buggy; enjoy!
-Brett
This is what happens to your hair when you touch that part of your electric car that says do not touch
Thanks for putting the music in!!! Great Video!
Really entertaining videos! I like that you consider costs as well when upgrading.
Enjoyed this series Brett!
Awesome, thanks for watching Todd.
-Brett
Just received my MP9 Tki4 V2
This series was great to watch.
The build quality of the Kyosho MP9 looks excellent.
I am looking forward to breaking in and enjoying this beauty.
Greetings from England 🇬🇧
Subbed 👍
That's great! Congrats on the new buggy. Happy the series could help you out and enjoy that buggy!
-Brett
great series, love it gives me a bit of hope with getting into the sport
And now I want to get back into Nitro RC. oof that look like fun, great video series. If you can keep racing and updating the buggy it would be very cool to watch.
Love the hair man. Great series
This video series was awesome.
Great videos, loved all the parts ( not so much the hair though ). Would be interesting to see it in some more races 👍👌
Your hair. It looks like you got struck by lightning before you got to your studio. Love these videos, keep it up buddy.👍🏼
This is probably the 5th time i’ve watched this series and I’m still in love with it. Brett can we get some more nitro please!!!!
We'd love to! Thank you for watching and supporting the videos Victor.
-Brett
Brett, whatever AMain hobbies is paying you they need to double it. I’ve spent the last two weeks watching MP9/10 videos and not only are your videos the most informative and comprehensive but you are an amazing speaker.
I’m just not some guy either....... lol
Well done
Now sell me that MP9 in the video 😎
Hey. Really happy you enjoyed the series, it was a lot of fun to put together. We have more in store for the buggy, so it's not done. With the Winter coming we are taking a break from nitro. Thanks for the comment makatkplt.
-Brett
i love this guy's attitude.
Having a hard time figuring out the ready set differences great hair and great series I love nitro had a Kyosho Vanning back in the day it was super cool I killed it quick LOL
Oh man, that Vanning is cool. I wasn't even familiar with it. Would be really cool to still own that. Probably a collectors item at this point.
With the MP9, are you trying to figure out the differences between the readyset and the kit? There is only one readyset version of the MP9, although, one for electric and one for nitro.
-Brett
Brett, I'm so glad you made a point of doing upgrades as you break parts. Regardless if someone races or bashes, I believe in this as a way of getting the most out a RTR and not just spending money for the sake of spending money. Also weird cost cutting measure by Kyosho to only have one set of bevel and spider gears in each diff.
Agreed, and most people will never know. Someone pointed out Traxxas does the same on the brushed models, with the VXL's receiving all gears.
-Brett
hahaha looks like you stuck your finger in the light socket!
Please do a follow up on this excellent series! Would recommend showing how
to find a good setup while explaining the equipment, theory, etc. Thanks a lot!
Thanks Brett!! You have made the ultimate consumer of me. As a total noob, I just purchased everything you said and also a motor heater and battery. Well played AMain , well played
Wow. Congrats man! Sounds like you have a lot of nice stuff coming your way. Those heaters can be really nice in cold temps and especially when you break in the engine. Have fun and let us know if you need any help.
-Brett
AMain Hobbies Funny you should say that. As a 100% noob to Lipos. I had trouble picking a charger. Too many options . So I haven’t yet. Do you recommend one that is appropriate to get into racing please .. I liked the Venom pro duo after reading reviews. but its out of stock.
@@wakecoach75 Keep using the engine heater even on warm-ish days. Ideally you want the engine at least in the ballpark of 65c before firing it up whenever convenient to do so. Minimises wear.
It's nice part video nice job it's very impormative.
Lol Bret my dood your hair said it all first two seconds I thought omg he been up for a while lol. Take a nap bro 👍👍😋
Nice video Mathew Broderick
good stuff!!
Nice would like to see more
Nice video
The best series ever! Will there be another series like this again?
I have just purchased my first nitro, it hasn't even been started yet.
This series has got me very excited about what's to come.
Upgrades incoming...
WHAT! That's primo exciting! Have fun with it and spray some roost! If you need anything, let us know.
-Brett
Lol i love your vids
deep pockets for this type of racing, but always love the sound of a nitro ripping. definitely keep the ancient aliens hair!!
Cool Story Bro,and oh yea the Hair ain’t too shabby neither
Ready buggy Perfect Dude
the hair is on point
Cutting a 1mm or 1/16" wide piece of fuel line and sliding it over the end is a good alternative to the metal clips as it puts equall pressure all round the feed line to the carb. I use it on the pressure side as well, tank and pipe. Any weakness would show up instantly there.
A couple of years ago i was looking for an excuse to buy a new engine (i enjoy running them in and setting them up, as much if not more than running the cars themself)
I had half a uk gallon of nitro methane left over from mixing fuel for something else. We didnt want to waste or ruin all that nitro so we mixed 1litre of 44% methanol, 6% mobile 1 turbine oil and 50% nitro methane. The fuel was black in colour and absolutely stank ! The glow plugs did not last a full tank, they were being destroyed after a couple of minutes of running. We ended up having to use Enya no5 plugs to get any decent run times. We mixed the rest of the nitro to give us just about the full UK gallon, 4.55 litres. Thinking back, i wish we had filmed it although the engine is still in running order and i would guess maybe enough of that fuel left for 5 or 6 tanks. We gave up because we ran out of no5 plugs and they were expensive, hard to get plus you needed a monster glow supply to light the thing !!!
Your videos are exellent with sound advice. Top notch 👍👍👍
Sooo Amain hire RCnetwork guy? Nice, like the voice :)
Also I used to run all rc from helis to a 1/5 redcat rampage (hate that thing) but now I;m so obsessed with mainly 1/8 scale but buggy rc and buggy racing. I hope he does more racing related stuff in the future
Can you do another one of these series with an electric 1/8 buggy or other racing class
I'm digging the Christopher Walken hair style!
ProTek RC R03 .21 Features: It goes Braaaaap!
Tires big bore front shocks and some nice aluminum parts on mine, works like a charm
I just bought this buggy from the Amain hobby store here in Chico. My plan is to display it in my office.
Really!!? That makes me so happy you're familiar with the videos. I told the guys at the shop they should add a note about it. Can I come take a picture with you and the car? That thing holds a special place in my r/c heart. Email me if you're interested: brettb@amain.com
-Brett
@AMain Hobbies It also holds a special place in my heart, too. When I saw the videos two years ago, it got me to buy my first buggy, a Kyosho inferno neo 3.0. Now I have three buggies, including this one in my RC collection.
Nice fro bro.
Please don't be done! Keep us updated with more content in future episodes.
We'll do more with the car in the future but we're done for now.
-Brett
While this video series is awesome it just proves you should buy a kit and build your own. For roughly the same price you could have everything you wanted in the kit to begin with.
Of course that doesn't matter if you don't know where to start.
Cool
Hoping part 7 is coming soon :D
Hey Brett did you move into a light socket!?
This was a great video series 👏👍 Maybe you could do the same thing with the E version...I like many others are getting back into the sport and will be doing electric 8 and 10th scale electric and maybe 1/5 scale gas or electric... speaking of which why would Losi/Horizon discontinue the 5b?? Are they coming out with a 2.0? Thanks again for the work you do to put out these videos!
Hey thanks AF. Haven't heard anything about a 2.0, but it could be in the works, but I don't really know.
-Brett
Kyosho is great Nitro rc manufacturer they still make and release. New models I wish Traxxas would follow but it least the Tmaxx/Revo models sell well. Can’t wait till those come back in Stock buy me another Blue Traxxas Tmaxx 3.3 model 😎
Awesome series on an RTR.
It really makes you wonder sometimes though if it is worth it. Did you save money going RTR verses buying an kit racer, and installing upgraded anything.
Price comparison vid???? Maybe an added info, I don't know. I know I should just compare myself, but thoughts from your side is the added touch that helps deciding factor.
Thanks for the build.
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-Brett
SAFETY NOTE Re: Included RTR transmitter: Failsafe position will be "full throttle" "if" you have to reverse the throttle in the TX (as compared to the included Kyosho servo direction). I can't find any way to reverse failsafe within the RTR TX and it doesn't automatically change via servo reversing so, if you have to reverse the throttle via TX for differing servos then failsafe= full throttle and there's nothing to be done about it (within the TX). Please tell me I'm wrong; if not then the SAFETY QUESTION is: do your recommended servos transit in the same direction as the Kyosho servos?
If I'm wrong about the Failsafe fluke please tell me and I'll definitely delete this post: I hate being rain!
Robert
It very exciting series and useful in getting started in nitro. The hair look lame.
Scary hair !!!
1 million tears sounds very accurate, although I paid a lot more myself :D
Tears are an essential lubricant when wrenching on a nitro 😂
@@Muserschmitt while that's true, I don't wish to apply them on the car when I'm starting it as often as I've had to with this car :D
0:40 got me good. 😂
;)
Brett, what differential oil weights would you recommend for for this baby(front/center/rear)? I'm having some trouble finding information about things like this. I really appreciate your time and knowledge.
5K in the front and center and 3K in the rear is popular for dirt tracks.
-Brett
@@AMain_Hobbies 👍 Thank you.
Hey Brett, what about the Protek RC LS5 Euro for an engine
I just got this buggy. Does Amain have a service to install the engine and bevel gears? I would gladly pay for this. The local hobby stores just cater to electric cars, trucks etc. Nitro is not that popular here. The hobby stores aren’t really that helpful and they are constantly out of parts. I buy the majority of parts and tires from Amain any way. Any info would be great. Seattle Wash
Brett did u get electric shocked lol
They always avoid the question of how fast it goes. If he have added 2-3 more tooths on a new clutch bell it would have increased the top speed to 70kmt with that set up with the same pipe and manifold, but changing to a new high end engine, a real competition engine with more bhp with a lot more rpm and power. I got mine modded my Noarossi Virtus off road engine with ceramic bearings front and back i also bought the fastest pipe and manifold for this engine. 8mm venturi, 1mm medium springs and a lightweight 7075 clutch. The standard set up om my Xray XB9'13 i coulfd have gone even faster if my XB8 was builded and did the same thing with that, anyway on 13T, the car was doing wheelie and i reach a top speed that was around 52 mph, but added a new clutcbell with 15T so the speed increased from 80 kph- 90kph and it accelerated like ajaguar even with 15T is a lot more that can be done than just this... if i have added 13-18t CB it would have peaked well over 100kph, but that's not good for the engine, just for speed test. I just wonder is the chassis on this car 7075 alloy?
Great video. The thing is though. If your gonna race and gonna stick with it, get the race kit and build it. The RTR is just to go out and have some fun. I'm all for upgrading, but you'll spend less in the long run and have a way better racer.
If your 100% sure that you’re gonna stick with it yes, just prepare a 1000$ budget (at least) and get a kit , engine , servos, Tx etc . But if you just want to give a Try and see from there the Rtr offers a great value because let’s be honest, in RC car racing you can spend a little fortune either if it’s offroad or Onroad. The Aim here is to get many more people involved as much as possible.
And what would it have cost to buy the kit then used all the electronics, motor, transmitter and reciever
If you have the starter box get a back plate for more power, pull starts an roto starter's take away some top end power from the engine 💪
You mention in Part 1 of this series that the TKI4 "..has the various upgrades.." Do you know if the TK14 has the differential shortcomings mentioned here @4:10? Or was this indeed upgraded as well?
The TKI4 ReadySet diffs only have the only set of sun gears like our MP9 ReadySet. The updates are mainly the updated suspension geometry and other tweaks here and there. All the diffs and diff parts are the same as earlier models I believe. Those diffs parts aren't too expensive thankfully. You can check it out here on page 6 of this TKI4 ReadySet exploded view diagram: www.kyosho.com/jpn/support/instructionmanual/buggy/pdf/33014T1_Inferno_MP9_TKI4_rs_ex.pdf
Great question.
-Brett
Thank you for being so helpful Brett. I'll add those to my list over on AMain.
I wonder... In the end it would not have been a better choice to buy a racing MP9 from the start? Many of these upgrades would have been already included, and the engine and servos would have been your choice from the beginning. I imagine that the meaning of this video series is to show that a RTR can be competitive if someone decides to. But I think I would have sold the RTR and invest in a new racing buggy entirely. Anyway, I have really enjoyed the videos!! Talking about RTR, it could be nice to see the Serpent Cobra RTR that comes with the Nova Rossi engine.
.....then there's you Hair!! Dude!?! 😂👍
So is it worth it?? Is this RTR version race ready to compete in stock nitro class?? Looking for a good RTR race ready out of box to be decent and learn skills?? I used to race nitro 15yrs ago any advice will be preciated??
The MP9 ReadySet is a great platform to get you started in racing, and then slowly upgrade as you go, as we have done in this series. It's one of the best RTR options available for this class.
-Brett
His hair looks funny!!!!!
How does the Losi 8ight V2 compare to this?
This is my favorite rc buggy
And it's faster than 61 mph
Have both mp9e and nitro neo 2.0 handle great awesome buggys nitro buggy is fast 6 gallons no problems.and pull start when box is dead lol...always starts easy... no comment on hair doo
Any thoughts on the Protek SS100 servos as an upgrade from Perfex Kyosho?
That would be a great upgrade, but it depends on the vehicle you install them in. The 100SS is not high voltage, so you can not use a LiPo receiver battery with them if this is a nitro vehicle. Also, the 100SS does not have adequate torque for 1/8 scale use, they're mainly for 1/10 scale applications. So they're a great servo, depending on how you use them. Hope that helps.
-Brett
Just saying for people out there who aren't those top racers at race events. You don't have to have crazy servos. Mark S on youtube shows some great servos that are I think 40 bucks each that are mildly fast, and have all aluminum internals and do last a good while. But if you are very serious about racing and you take it out to a track or train for races regularly you should absolutely get the 80 dollar or 150 dollar servos from protek.
Hey is my kyosho inferno mp9 tki4 nitro with a alpha racing 850t5p racing engine heading in the right direction?
Sweet setup Troy. Sounds right to me.
-Brett
Very interesting series, So 600$ is what one have to look at to start racing for a 1/8th nitro buggy. It’s not actually that bad BUT let’s say one wishes to start with a proper KIT to have the best possible components for the chassis but then chooses the intermediate engine, servos, etc suggested in this video and start racing then maybe one can progress to a better engine servo’s etc, how much it would increase in total price?
@L.A. NITRO ouuch!
This guy likes to party
Dumb question...what fuel did you use? Was it chosen for cost or quality?
I think we were using PowerMaster fuel but we've also use Sidewinder too. Both are good. We choose whichever is in stock usually.
-Brett
That thing needs a proteck LS5. The stock motor seems okay but looks like it lacks bottom end on the track.
man i was thinking about a nitro car after this i think im not sure
Hello, how are those differential parts a necessary upgrade?
Could you do a lap time comparison of the part 4 buggy VS a "state of the art" racing MP9?
The diff will just last longer. Those extra parts help share the pressure and stress to keep the system working smoother, cooler and longer.
-Brett
@@AMain_Hobbies Cheers!
After you spent $626 on the RTR, couldn't you have bought and fitted out the kit version?
The kit costs $700 and that includes no electronics, engine gear, radio gear, starter system. It's just a chassis without tires and wheels.
-Brett
@@AMain_Hobbies ok 👍
But is it better to use started box??
What will be the difference in the differentials "action" with the added gears?
I don't think you'll feel a difference, but the diff overall will last longer. The diffs take a lot of abuse and the oils used aren't that thick compared to what some bashers use, but it provides maximum performance. While racing, the more the diff works, the oil inside heats up and breaks down, putting a lot of stress on the gears. In a 30 minute, 45 or 60 minute nitro main, you can't have anything fail.
-Brett
@@AMain_Hobbies Thanks, I'll probably upgrade to HD Dog Bone cups too while I'm there. Thanks Again!
✌🏽
Hello Brett! Why did you choose an MP9 over MP10?
0:50 in to this video --> th-cam.com/video/Y7LhHcDZY3o/w-d-xo.html
-Brett
Can you do a series for the E verision of the ready to run MP9 Evo EP?
Not sure if we'll be able to do that, although it would be fun.
-Brett
@@AMain_Hobbies How much faster is the top speed of the electric one?
Is there any dif fluid in that ready set buggy? If not what's recommended?
Yes, they include some oil in the diffs; what exactly? I don't know. A good oil setup would be 5000 front, 5000 center and 3000 rear; although that may need to be adjusted depending on track conditions.
-Brett
The mp9 tki3 and tki4 which do you think in your opion is stronger of the 2 cars please🙏👍
Stronger? I do not know. I imagine they are very similar in durability since they share many of the same parts. Sorry, I do not have an answer.
-Brett
So I have a car that looks like this but I can’t exactly tell , I’ve been looking for days . Im pretty sure it’s a older model but can’t find it
Did you change the shock oil or leave it stock
Left it stock. We never changed the diff or shock fluid.
-Brett
you should do this for a U4RC type vehicle