The New Ninja Slushi might just be the next must-have kitchen appliance. That is... If you don't have a problem with the sugar. If you liked this video, you might like this Ninja Creami Deluxe Review as well! th-cam.com/video/2kLZ0wnnGjg/w-d-xo.html
I'm too scared to look at the price in Australian dollars. I'm thinking $500-$600..😢 I'm sure you can make less sugary drinks, though. Maybe a ball of blu-tak could fix the immediate problem with storing the disc on the side.
@jaggirl I ordered in some sugarless mixes to see how they work in this.... If they do, I can adapt the ingredients from it to maybe work in other stuff.
When you add regular cola to the machine, the ice that has formed on the condenser is already there, and if it doesn't melt, the machine will continue to detect that there is not enough sugar. In my opinion, you should either wait for the ice on the condenser to melt or start the experiment over from the beginning with a 1:1 ratio
Excellent review Joe. In fact the best most well rounded and informative on the internet so far. Thank you. This machine was a "must have" when I first saw it, but the sugar issue makes it a "no go" for me. I'm not a diabetic yet, and I don't want to be either. This machine would be a disaster in the making for me. I'll just have to rely on my Ninja Creami for all my sugar free Frappuccino's, Slushi's, Milkshakes, Italian Ice's, etc. They may not be the "fine" consistency that this machine is capable of. But they are really, really, yummy. 😋 Well worth the sugar free benefits for me.
Thank you so much. You just savede me a lot of money. I'm adiabetic, and I almost bought the Ninja shush machine. I can't have sugar. So you video was a big help. Thank you from Kiki in Denmark 🇩🇰❤️
You're welcome. Glad to help. I am doing some testing on it coming up with sugar free recipes...I also got some suglarless slushie mix that I using for a video this week
Here's a tip if you really really want the machine: In Norway we have sugarfree slush syrup you can buy, same slush syrups that commercial slushmachines use. Its sugarfree, and it works because they added another molecule that acts as a barrier, the same way as sugar-molecule does. I bet you can find the same product in denmark! :) I own a commercial slush-machine, and use "home-brew" is a strict no-no, on these very very expensive machines, so I only use slushsyrup which I buy online, and mix with water. :)
@squirrelforest1986 good tip! We have a copy out here called jolly rancher that makes some sugarless ones and they work in the machine pretty good.... Surprisingly high calories anyways though from other sources.
Thank you. I'm going to spend money on this. I'm a diabetic but I don't give a fuck. You only live once. You're video is a big help and I will enjoy delicious drinks.
THere are several sugar-free recipes for the Ninja Slushi on the Ninja website. They all rely on allulose powder as a sugar substitute. Allulose doesn’t affect your blood glucose or insulin, making it a viable substitution for people living with diabetes. It also isn’t metabolized in your mouth, which can help keep cavities and other dental problems at bay. It's biggest weakness is cost - it typically costs about 5 times as much as regular granulated sugar (sucrose).
As a FYI, most commercial slushy machines will tell you the brix measurement range supported by the machine (this tells you if the Slurpee will freeze, or be to runny). Typically a brix level of 13-18 is what is supported/suggested by most machine, some as low as 11. I'm unsure what the Ninja Slushi is, but would be interested in finding out (maybe an update video? hehe). The brix refracto meters are pretty cheap (20$-40$) so you can measure yourself, and keep in mind stuff other than sugar will affect the brix level, so, you can likely find a mixture/recipe that is less sugar if you experiment a bit and just test with a brix meter (so you can tell if it'll work or not pretty much immediately instead of waiting ~an hour to find out). For example alcohol will affect the brix level a lot, sugar of course, some flavorings will too (mostly sour/acidic stuff, pectins, organic acids, amino acid, etc) but usually to a smaller degree. Keep adding stuff till the brix hits the ~13 range!
@@JoesPhenomenal My experience with xylitol as the sweetener acts exactly like sugar. I use 130g of xylitol and two packets of any flavor koolaid unsweetened. Mixed with 2 liters of water gives a brix of 13. It slushes just right for me in a commercial slushie machine and a Ninja Creami
I worked at Orange Julius way..uh...way back when....We sold the best fries around...Hot dogs too....the reason the the juices had that froth on top was we used sugar water and added a scoop of something....I have been told that it was powdered milk...my manager said it was some protein mix...whatever it was is what made it froth up like that.....I get my Ninja Slushy on Friday and I can't wait. Thanks for all of these vids...they're great.
You got it! Thanks fo the cool story. I miss the old mall days. Good memories. Too bad those days are gone forever it seems. I think you'll like that Slushi.
The truth is it is more about the BRIX levels and the machine (most granita style machines) require a minimum of 18 BRIX and not more than 25% BRIX. There are some things you can do to increase BRIX without using sugar and their are alternatives for sweeteners with a low glycemic spike like agave nectar - yes, still sugar but better for diabetics. Thanks for the video
@@-whackd brix testing uses a refactometor and is not built into the machine. Typically 18-20 % sugar works well. Many factors can add or change the brix. Non sugar sweeteners do not work. They have no sugar. Hope that helps. Oh, also. If the Brixx is too high then it will not freeze at all. So no sugar you get solid ice and too much sugar it won’t freeze.
@-whackd I'm thinking that it's reading the tension on the paddle and maybe a temp measurement.. Don't think it can actually detect sugar content or alcohol content. I'd image it would have to be more expensive for that?
@philipraimondo Ninja was recommending 4-10% on the sugar percentage.. Seemed to work pretty good for me in that range.... I did the 4 with the sugar and filled in the sweetness gap with artificial... I hear allulose by itself will work too, but I haven't played with that yet
Agreed.... Unfortunately for me, allulose has a laxative effect on me that's pretty extreme... Most sugar alcohols can, but that one is the one that really gets me. Too bad, because it does work really well and tastes good. 👍
To my understanding, sugar alcohols do have an effect on freezing. Maybe do a follow-up video where you explore the sugar free viability a little deeper?
@@JoesPhenomenalyeah it sounds like you'll need to add some sugar alcohol to it or something. I mean there has to be a way because how exactly does 7Eleven or some gas stations do it to their sugar free slushes? It really makes you wonder
There are sugar free mixes you can get that will work. Jolly Rancher brand has some sugar free flavors. I work on commercial versions of machines that operate pretty much the same way.
Appreciate you doing the coke zero test. Saved me the heart ache of finding out myself lol. I wish there was some type of substitute besides sugar you could combine with it to make zero sugar drinks work.
I just became aware of this product, and I have always loved slushies & was very excited about this. At $299, I wondered if it would be a wise investment. I just got an email that it will be back in stock at 2PM today. I do wish it would freeze coke zero because I lived for frozen coke when I was a young girl, but as a type 2 diabetic, I have to avoid sugar as much as I can. Very informative, and I appreciate you doing such a thorough review.
You're welcome! Yes.. The coke zero thing is tough to work out... I can add something to make it slush, but it messes with the coke... Was thinking about adding xanthan gum to it to see it it will slush it.
To make ice cream, just churn it in there as much as you can for 2 hours, then transfer to a ice cold container and freeze. Best you'll get. I assume it has a temp sensor or maybe a pressure/torque sensor on the churner.
I worked in gas stations for a decade, and we had both regular soda type slushies, as well as ones like this one. We DID have frozen lemonade btw. Anyway, it was explained to me by the manufacturer that sugar is a type of anti-freeze, so it's needed to keep everything from freezing solid.
@@JoesPhenomenal sweet! Any word on when we should be expecting these to hit the shelves? Hopefully you have an affiliate link for that 🙏 I’d like to toss you some credit for putting me onto it! Sugar isn’t an issue for us, is this thing better than the Creami? I’ve seen the comments about the sugar free stuff
@peanutheadrules well... Tough to say with Ninja. If it's like the Creami rollout, it took then about 2 months to get it to the point where they could keep it in stock. After that, the Amazon suppliers were able to order in bulk, and it showed up there too.... So... Maybe another month I would think? Just in time for the weather to turn cold. Lol
The one thing I can see happening was bright to life when he showed the handle lever design. I'm almost willing to bet NINJA says that the whole assembly is dishwasher safe. Regardless of whether it is or not, plastic always seems to get damaged in the dishwasher and creates tiny micro fractures. Once that happens those pins holding the handle in are just going to slowly breakdown. Washing it by hand is my recommendation.
This looks like a good consumer level product (I'm thinking margaritas for days), as long as there's good parts support for the plastic parts as they wear and inevitably break.
~What exactly happened with the milkshake turning it into soft serve? You put it on the top setting and the unit would stop, it wouldn't let you select it, or what was the issue? How long did you let it go before trying it the second time? Maybe you needed it to go for much longer?` One of the videos I saw, they mentioned it was 1.5 hours for one of the items they were making. I would think ice cream would require a long time.` Thank you for your review/tests!
It kept stopping when it got to a thickness that made it hard for it to push it out of the machine. The slushi mostly relies on gravity for the dispenser, so it does make it a little weird, but scaling it back about 2 levels turned it into a fantastic milkshake.
$299.00 price tag not that into sushi when I can buy large frozen coke at McDonald's for $2. It is pretty impressive how again they took machines that cost thousands of dollars and turned it into machine for hundreds of dollars.
Haha. Fools. Zero sugar then contains aspartame, sucralose or saccharin which are far worse than real sugar. It's a marketing ploy. You'll have to not drink these items all together to get zero sugar and zero bioengineered poisons.
Orange Julius Secret is Orange Juice and Powdered Creamer that's it. I knew someone that worked at one back in the 90s if you watched them make it you saw them add a white powder its creamer. And Real Sugar or Alcohol (Alcohol started as Sugar) is needed for so many things you can't cheat science 😊
@@collg5880 it's just plain coffeemate or any generic powdered creamer unflavored, it has a lot of sugar in it already. You just have to add enough to sweeten it to your taste, definitely not healthy but nothing that tastes good is
@@collg5880 just the stuff you mentioned no extra sugar. YT keeps deleting my comments sorry if they show up later? YT doesn't like when I mentioned the brand you did???
The zero sugar limitation isn't for this machine specifically its for all machines like this. I think its a little unfair to blame the Slushi and not the technology/form factor itself. That would be akin to saying the Slushi has a limitation because it can't make popsicles, well, no slushie machine can make popsicles! It becomes very scientific when you get down to why something will freeze right or not. It has to do with the formation of ice crystals. They talk about Allulose being able to help slush in the sugar free category in the manual. Maybe using that and no sugar works. Or that and a little bit of sugar. I would guess Allulose + Alcohol might be a winning combination for Sugar-Free Slushes. Sugar Alcohols might also be a possibility. Xanthan Gum is also a natural ingredient could also aid in the formation of smaller ice crystals as well as prevent separation of the frozen and melted layers after serving the drink. I plan on doing some tests with it soon as it can help with Sugar slushes too. There must be a way to do it because 7-11 does and their machines are built on the same principle. All that said - don't give up on Sugar-Free. Where there is a will, there is a way.
@@JoesPhenomenal Fair! I got jaded by all the comments saying my new pride an joy was a wasted purchase because of 1 limitation that might have some workarounds!
22:30 I don’t think he understands how the machine works nor does he understand how sugar affects the freezing temperature. Machine giving a warning because it’s clear that ice was building up on the condenser and bending the plastic auger. No amount of sugar he adds will melt the ice that already built up. He needs to dump out the batch, take out the condenser and melt off the ice build up. Sugar lowers the freezing temperature of the mixture, that is all. It interferes with the ice crystals forming, just as alcohol does. What he needs to do is retest the Coke Zero, but set the temperature all the way down and closely monitor the ice buildup on the condenser. It probably still wouldn’t work, but the amount of sugar required would be significantly reduced. As for making soft serve, he needs to retry again, but dump out half the batch and slowly increase the freeze level. There are two issues at play. The more the mixture freezes, the more it’ll expand. Also, the strength of the auger is the limiting factor since it’s plastic. Increasing the freeze level too quickly causes the mixture to freeze too quickly and prevents the auger from scraping the ice buildup on the condenser. Wild idea for tinkerers: try 3D printing a stronger auger out of metal and replace the plastic one. Also modify the shape of the auger slightly so the edge is a little sharp to better help scrape the ice from the condenser. Caveat: the auger might be made of plastic on purpose to be the sacrificial part to save the motor. If it’s replaced with a metal one, there’s a chance the condenser and the auger would freeze together and overload the motor.
@@elainefinneran5773 I tried that.. It make it a little too thick.. I just used a little piece of electrical tape over the side and it fixed it right up. Doesn't look like others are having that problem, so it must just be me.
Nice! Working on a few recipes for this one that will work sugar free also. Also, Jolly Rancher makes some zero sugar slushie pix pre made that I'm checking out as well.
i just bought this for a family member who's always having gatherings. curious about if your doing something simple with one or two ingredients can you re add when its getting low while its running other then emptying it out.
Easiest smoothy variant: OJ, frozen pineapple or strawberry, sugar(I use agave syrup) scoop of coffee mate. Identical to shopping mall Orange Julius. Has the froth on top and juice under. I also like frozen mango or frozen strawberry. Add water to cut the acidity of the OJ and it separates exactly like an 80s Orange Julius, which used frozen OJ concentrate, sugar, water, ice cubes, and powdered non dairy creamer.
For $400 CAD, I'll skip on this product. I love my Creami and use it weekly, but no way I am wasting 400 bucks on slushi machine. Thanks for the video!
You usually need sugar cuz it stops the ice crystals from getting large. Only other thing I can think of that can do it well enough is alcohol, but then everything in there is now with alcohol. I dont know if you could use other types of sugars like fructose but I would just stay with regular sugar for a lot of other reasons.
7/11 ain't got nothing on Ninja. Oooooh ima have some crazy drinks up in my home soon. Probably crazy expensive so I'll wait a few years. My gourmia air frier is still going strong
It may fit under the cabinet but you have to pull it out to put the liquid into the machine. Would have been nice if they could have made the liquid opening as close to the front as possible.
It looks like you still need to do some planning with this machine. Question 1 can and how do you store leftovers? Can you just put in a container and scoop out? Question 2 other than the 24 hour freeze with the creamy, how do the 2 compare? Final product wise that it.
For the leftovers, if your fridge is set pretty cold, it will keep in there and still be pretty Slushi over night. However, you can do slushis all the way down to 16oz I think, so you can avoid too much of that. For the creami, I was planning on doing a Slushi comparison between the 2 machines to see how they differ.
Could you make a slush or milkshake recipe, then pour the thick sauce into ICE LOLLIPOP MOLDS, then place into the freezer. That might mean you have ice lollies which are not ROCK SOLID and you can easily bite into the ice lollipop 😜
I grew up in the Slurpee capitol of the world. Since I moved I haven't had many opportunities to have real, proper slushies. I was so looking forward to this. Sadly, I am diabetic. Can't do full sugar sodas. 😢 Just gutted. 😢💔
I just bought a Creami at Costco, and now they do this to me. LOL! I'd like to see a comparison of the Slushi's milkshake mode compared to the Creami's milkshake. Since it has a "Spiked Slush" mode, I assume that means things like frozen magaritas?
I was always really dismissive of the ninja brand, thought of them as "as seen in TV" rubbish. Have a couple of their kitchen appliances now and the quality is exceptional.
Funny that you say that. I just finished the unboxing for that with a short demo that will be posting tomorrow... Will have the review up in a couple of weeks.
Should be able to to the coladas. Gonna try it out. The soft drinks can go in unchanged as long ad they are the regular sugary kind... You want them as cold as possible going in though to limit the amount they go flat.
You can... and that would help quite a bit. The problem I always had was moisture pooling and sitting around the metal screws while it was sitting in there, and over time corroding those a little.
I think the sugar thing is kind of a small issue honestly. If you dont use it every day and watch it, than its not a huge issue. Id probably use it a coupke of times a week at most, especially during the summer. It saves me from going to 711 and getting a slurpee if i want one, plus the fact alot of 711s make it easy for your card to get skimmed so this is a win win in thay sort of situation lol. Its really dependent on the person using it, like everything else out there. Thanks for the review. Ill probably end up snagging one a sale, hopefully sooner rather than later haha.
Damn really wanted this. Why do we need sugar?! I want to watch out how much sugar intake i have .is there any work around? I really want some 0 sugar or LOWWWW sugar choices
I just ordered in some sugar free slush mix online... Gonna try it out and see what it does.. Might be able to adapt the ingredients to other things too if it's good.
Ninja is great at making almost awesome products, but they always manage to mess it up. My creami won't power on unless I unplug the power cord and plug it back in. The new foodi grill has a problem with the thermometer throwing an error that it's not plugged in if you place it into meat that's 40 degrees or colder (the older model didn't have this issue). The blenders are ok, but they're pretty fragile and the lids are overengineered for "safety".
There always seems to be some sort of crazy flaw... I hear ya... Remember the Creami Breeze got cancelled mid-production due to fires, evidently. I feel like they need to slow down a little bit, and work on tweaking and perfecting their stuff before making new models. That being said, I personally have been really lucky. None of my Ninja products have ever failed me with the exception of one food processor bowl cracking, and one ninja creami lid needing a replacement due to a little plastic nub breaking off.
@JoesPhenomenal but they should still be showing on amazon or am I wrong. I have heard people ordering them online and not getting them even when the site said they have been delivered.... Also heard there is no release date for the UK yet some say 2025.
@DerekMatthews well.. I think the Ninjas sold on Amazon are actually 3rd party resellers... Maybe not Ninja Directly. I could be wrong on that though, but I haven't seen the Slushi on Amazon at all yet. The Ninja Creami went trough that too when it got released. Haven't heard about the delivery drama though.
You didn't get the froth on your orange Julius because you're missing an ingredient, egg whites. It's actually one of the ingredients in the original recipe.
The New Ninja Slushi might just be the next must-have kitchen appliance. That is... If you don't have a problem with the sugar. If you liked this video, you might like this Ninja Creami Deluxe Review as well! th-cam.com/video/2kLZ0wnnGjg/w-d-xo.html
I'm too scared to look at the price in Australian dollars. I'm thinking $500-$600..😢
I'm sure you can make less sugary drinks, though.
Maybe a ball of blu-tak could fix the immediate problem with storing the disc on the side.
@jaggirl I ordered in some sugarless mixes to see how they work in this.... If they do, I can adapt the ingredients from it to maybe work in other stuff.
How much does it cost? Didn't see affiliate link
@tazbugs9 is $300 USD. But they are sold out a lot right now. Not on Amazon yet either. That's why I haven't posted a link for them yet.
When you add regular cola to the machine, the ice that has formed on the condenser is already there, and if it doesn't melt, the machine will continue to detect that there is not enough sugar. In my opinion, you should either wait for the ice on the condenser to melt or start the experiment over from the beginning with a 1:1 ratio
Good idea. Will try that.
Its the evaporator, not the condenser.😊
Excellent review Joe. In fact the best most well rounded and informative on the internet so far. Thank you. This machine was a "must have" when I first saw it, but the sugar issue makes it a "no go" for me. I'm not a diabetic yet, and I don't want to be either. This machine would be a disaster in the making for me. I'll just have to rely on my Ninja Creami for all my sugar free Frappuccino's, Slushi's, Milkshakes, Italian Ice's, etc. They may not be the "fine" consistency that this machine is capable of. But they are really, really, yummy. 😋 Well worth the sugar free benefits for me.
Thanks! The creami still makes a pretty mean frappe though.
You can use alluose instead of sugar.
Thank you so much. You just savede me a lot of money. I'm adiabetic, and I almost bought the Ninja shush machine. I can't have sugar. So you video was a big help. Thank you from Kiki in Denmark 🇩🇰❤️
You're welcome. Glad to help. I am doing some testing on it coming up with sugar free recipes...I also got some suglarless slushie mix that I using for a video this week
Here's a tip if you really really want the machine: In Norway we have sugarfree slush syrup you can buy, same slush syrups that commercial slushmachines use. Its sugarfree, and it works because they added another molecule that acts as a barrier, the same way as sugar-molecule does. I bet you can find the same product in denmark! :) I own a commercial slush-machine, and use "home-brew" is a strict no-no, on these very very expensive machines, so I only use slushsyrup which I buy online, and mix with water. :)
@squirrelforest1986 good tip! We have a copy out here called jolly rancher that makes some sugarless ones and they work in the machine pretty good.... Surprisingly high calories anyways though from other sources.
Diabetic as well, I just use a hand blender inside a large yeti tumbler for all my frozen treats. It takes about 15 seconds depending on ice level.
Thank you. I'm going to spend money on this. I'm a diabetic but I don't give a fuck. You only live once. You're video is a big help and I will enjoy delicious drinks.
That was an Epic comment!
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Good review, very through with a lot of information to help a consumer make a purchasing decision.
Thanks!
Great, thorough review. Since it's out of stock may wait this one out until Costco gets it ...then eventually puts it on sale.
That sounds like a great plan... Probably will get some kind of cool bundle that way too.
THere are several sugar-free recipes for the Ninja Slushi on the Ninja website. They all rely on allulose powder as a sugar substitute. Allulose doesn’t affect your blood glucose or insulin, making it a viable substitution for people living with diabetes. It also isn’t metabolized in your mouth, which can help keep cavities and other dental problems at bay. It's biggest weakness is cost - it typically costs about 5 times as much as regular granulated sugar (sucrose).
Will have to check those out... Yeah.. It's pricey for sure. I get a brand from Amazon that's not too bad cost wise and it comes in a 5lb container.
I was wondering about more "sugar-like" sweeteners like erythritol or isomalt.
Very cool! you basically answered all the questions i had about the machine
Glad I could help!
As a FYI, most commercial slushy machines will tell you the brix measurement range supported by the machine (this tells you if the Slurpee will freeze, or be to runny). Typically a brix level of 13-18 is what is supported/suggested by most machine, some as low as 11. I'm unsure what the Ninja Slushi is, but would be interested in finding out (maybe an update video? hehe).
The brix refracto meters are pretty cheap (20$-40$) so you can measure yourself, and keep in mind stuff other than sugar will affect the brix level, so, you can likely find a mixture/recipe that is less sugar if you experiment a bit and just test with a brix meter (so you can tell if it'll work or not pretty much immediately instead of waiting ~an hour to find out). For example alcohol will affect the brix level a lot, sugar of course, some flavorings will too (mostly sour/acidic stuff, pectins, organic acids, amino acid, etc) but usually to a smaller degree. Keep adding stuff till the brix hits the ~13 range!
Hmmm.... Interesting stuff! Thanks. Guess I know what's going in my cart! Ha ha
I believe the instructions say 4% sugar. 4g/100g water = a brix of 4
@@TerryLawrence001 yep... I saw that too... Also a max of 14% alcohol
@@JoesPhenomenal My experience with xylitol as the sweetener acts exactly like sugar. I use 130g of xylitol and two packets of any flavor koolaid unsweetened. Mixed with 2 liters of water gives a brix of 13. It slushes just right for me in a commercial slushie machine and a Ninja Creami
@TerryLawrence001 hmmm.... Mad scientist time... That would be good news since allulose puts me in the restroom all day.
Great video review on the product. That's the main reason why I subscribe because of your throughly review! ❤
I appreciate that! Glad it was helpful!
I worked at Orange Julius way..uh...way back when....We sold the best fries around...Hot dogs too....the reason the the juices had that froth on top was we used sugar water and added a scoop of something....I have been told that it was powdered milk...my manager said it was some protein mix...whatever it was is what made it froth up like that.....I get my Ninja Slushy on Friday and I can't wait. Thanks for all of these vids...they're great.
You got it! Thanks fo the cool story. I miss the old mall days. Good memories. Too bad those days are gone forever it seems. I think you'll like that Slushi.
The truth is it is more about the BRIX levels and the machine (most granita style machines) require a minimum of 18 BRIX and not more than 25% BRIX. There are some things you can do to increase BRIX without using sugar and their are alternatives for sweeteners with a low glycemic spike like agave nectar - yes, still sugar but better for diabetics. Thanks for the video
Awesome! Thanks for the info. I learn something new every day!
What does the machine actually detect? I assume it does not have a BRIX measurement device? Splenda and Stevia both are highly sweet.
@@-whackd brix testing uses a refactometor and is not built into the machine. Typically 18-20 % sugar works well. Many factors can add or change the brix. Non sugar sweeteners do not work. They have no sugar. Hope that helps. Oh, also. If the Brixx is too high then it will not freeze at all. So no sugar you get solid ice and too much sugar it won’t freeze.
@-whackd I'm thinking that it's reading the tension on the paddle and maybe a temp measurement.. Don't think it can actually detect sugar content or alcohol content. I'd image it would have to be more expensive for that?
@philipraimondo Ninja was recommending 4-10% on the sugar percentage.. Seemed to work pretty good for me in that range.... I did the 4 with the sugar and filled in the sweetness gap with artificial... I hear allulose by itself will work too, but I haven't played with that yet
Thank you. You answered my earlier question about sugar substitutes and have saved us from another wasted purchase.
You got it. Any time!
Allulose acts just like sugar. It can even caramelize unlike the other substitutes. And luckily it’s the most healthiest.
Agreed.... Unfortunately for me, allulose has a laxative effect on me that's pretty extreme... Most sugar alcohols can, but that one is the one that really gets me. Too bad, because it does work really well and tastes good. 👍
To my understanding, sugar alcohols do have an effect on freezing. Maybe do a follow-up video where you explore the sugar free viability a little deeper?
Sounds like a plan.
@@JoesPhenomenalyeah it sounds like you'll need to add some sugar alcohol to it or something. I mean there has to be a way because how exactly does 7Eleven or some gas stations do it to their sugar free slushes? It really makes you wonder
@@xBboyRewindx they use special stabilizers and gum agents that will freeze and maintain and even consistency
@xBboyRewindx I have some sugarless jolly rancher slush mix coming. Gonna try it out and then I can copy the ingredients too if it comes out nice.
@@JoesPhenomenal i would like to see how it feeezes
There are sugar free mixes you can get that will work. Jolly Rancher brand has some sugar free flavors. I work on commercial versions of machines that operate pretty much the same way.
Sweet. Gonna have to look into those. Thanks!
This video was SO helpful!! Thank you
Glad to help, Laura
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22:15 The motor detects strain and resistance. The auger was binding on the ice build up on the condenser. Remove the ice and it will run.
Appreciate you doing the coke zero test. Saved me the heart ache of finding out myself lol. I wish there was some type of substitute besides sugar you could combine with it to make zero sugar drinks work.
No problem. I'm still working on it. Might find a solution yet!
@@JoesPhenomenal Maybe alcohol?
@Hyperion62 gonna test a bunch of alcolic stuff coming up.
I just became aware of this product, and I have always loved slushies & was very excited about this. At $299, I wondered if it would be a wise investment. I just got an email that it will be back in stock at 2PM today. I do wish it would freeze coke zero because I lived for frozen coke when I was a young girl, but as a type 2 diabetic, I have to avoid sugar as much as I can. Very informative, and I appreciate you doing such a thorough review.
You're welcome! Yes.. The coke zero thing is tough to work out... I can add something to make it slush, but it messes with the coke... Was thinking about adding xanthan gum to it to see it it will slush it.
To make ice cream, just churn it in there as much as you can for 2 hours, then transfer to a ice cold container and freeze. Best you'll get.
I assume it has a temp sensor or maybe a pressure/torque sensor on the churner.
👀 this with coca cola syrup may be a dangerous discovery for me.
The condenser is the hot part of a refrigeration cycle. The part getting cold inside is the evaporator.
Yep... Thanks for the correction. Got myself all mixed up!
I worked in gas stations for a decade, and we had both regular soda type slushies, as well as ones like this one. We DID have frozen lemonade btw.
Anyway, it was explained to me by the manufacturer that sugar is a type of anti-freeze, so it's needed to keep everything from freezing solid.
Yep... Alcohol does that too.
Ohhhh!!! I can’t wait to get my hands on one of these!! 😍 I hope it’s not too expensive though. I’m not spending over $300 for this at full price..
They will end up at costco at some point, and when they do it will likely have a pretty interesting price or maybe even some sort of special bundle.
@@JoesPhenomenal sweet! Any word on when we should be expecting these to hit the shelves? Hopefully you have an affiliate link for that 🙏 I’d like to toss you some credit for putting me onto it! Sugar isn’t an issue for us, is this thing better than the Creami? I’ve seen the comments about the sugar free stuff
@peanutheadrules well... Tough to say with Ninja. If it's like the Creami rollout, it took then about 2 months to get it to the point where they could keep it in stock. After that, the Amazon suppliers were able to order in bulk, and it showed up there too.... So... Maybe another month I would think? Just in time for the weather to turn cold. Lol
Thanks for the updates. It answers a lot of the questions I had.
Definitely interested in seeing how some of the lower sugar alternatives work
The one thing I can see happening was bright to life when he showed the handle lever design. I'm almost willing to bet NINJA says that the whole assembly is dishwasher safe.
Regardless of whether it is or not, plastic always seems to get damaged in the dishwasher and creates tiny micro fractures. Once that happens those pins holding the handle in are just going to slowly breakdown. Washing it by hand is my recommendation.
Totally agree with ya.
All I want to know is if I can make frozen margaritas in it. 👍👍
Yep. Gonna do a video just based on alcoholic drinks with it.
This looks like a good consumer level product (I'm thinking margaritas for days), as long as there's good parts support for the plastic parts as they wear and inevitably break.
Time will tell on that... Ninja has been pretty good with product support for the most part though.
~What exactly happened with the milkshake turning it into soft serve? You put it on the top setting and the unit would stop, it wouldn't let you select it, or what was the issue?
How long did you let it go before trying it the second time? Maybe you needed it to go for much longer?` One of the videos I saw, they mentioned it was 1.5 hours for one of the items they were making. I would think ice cream would require a long time.`
Thank you for your review/tests!
It kept stopping when it got to a thickness that made it hard for it to push it out of the machine. The slushi mostly relies on gravity for the dispenser, so it does make it a little weird, but scaling it back about 2 levels turned it into a fantastic milkshake.
just to be technically correct - the part you call the "condenser" is really the evaporator
Yeah... I botched that... Haha. Thanks for the correction though.
It's... okay. If I had to do it over again, I would have waited till it was on sale. I got mine directly from the website, so I didn't pay a markup.
Good policy... The markups on that are huge... About as bad as it used to be for the Creami
I bet some small magnets can fix the drip tray issue
$299.00 price tag not that into sushi when I can buy large frozen coke at McDonald's for $2. It is pretty impressive how again they took machines that cost thousands of dollars and turned it into machine for hundreds of dollars.
I thought it was impressive when they bounced 1700 watts between 2 air fryer baskets in one machine then speedi/combi then creami and now this.
The combi is another one I kinda need to pick up.
I have been using xylotol in my slush beverages made in my Creami and have had good results. it tastes pretty good and measures like sugar 1:1
OK... One more thing to try. Thx!
It not working with zero-sugar drinks is an absolute deal breaker. Thank you for testing this.
You got it.
Haha. Fools. Zero sugar then contains aspartame, sucralose or saccharin which are far worse than real sugar. It's a marketing ploy. You'll have to not drink these items all together to get zero sugar and zero bioengineered poisons.
In the UK we have machines just like his that are sugar free and hey work jus fine.
Mmmmmm Sugar😍
@OP, oh no… Nobody cares. 😂
If where you're storing it, you're going to use it, you need extra room for air to flow around the machine because of heat
Excellent point!
Orange Julius Secret is Orange Juice and Powdered Creamer that's it. I knew someone that worked at one back in the 90s if you watched them make it you saw them add a white powder its creamer. And Real Sugar or Alcohol (Alcohol started as Sugar) is needed for so many things you can't cheat science 😊
flavored powdered creamer or like original powdered coffeemate? and sugar as well correct?
Nice... Thanks for the inside info!
@@collg5880 it's just plain coffeemate or any generic powdered creamer unflavored, it has a lot of sugar in it already. You just have to add enough to sweeten it to your taste, definitely not healthy but nothing that tastes good is
@@collg5880 unflavored like coffee mate.
@@collg5880 just the stuff you mentioned no extra sugar. YT keeps deleting my comments sorry if they show up later? YT doesn't like when I mentioned the brand you did???
The zero sugar limitation isn't for this machine specifically its for all machines like this. I think its a little unfair to blame the Slushi and not the technology/form factor itself. That would be akin to saying the Slushi has a limitation because it can't make popsicles, well, no slushie machine can make popsicles!
It becomes very scientific when you get down to why something will freeze right or not. It has to do with the formation of ice crystals. They talk about Allulose being able to help slush in the sugar free category in the manual. Maybe using that and no sugar works. Or that and a little bit of sugar. I would guess Allulose + Alcohol might be a winning combination for Sugar-Free Slushes. Sugar Alcohols might also be a possibility.
Xanthan Gum is also a natural ingredient could also aid in the formation of smaller ice crystals as well as prevent separation of the frozen and melted layers after serving the drink. I plan on doing some tests with it soon as it can help with Sugar slushes too.
There must be a way to do it because 7-11 does and their machines are built on the same principle. All that said - don't give up on Sugar-Free. Where there is a will, there is a way.
@@benjaminyoder3518 very true.. I didn't blame the Slushi though. I did say right in there that it wasn't the Slushis problem... It's chemistry.
@@JoesPhenomenal Fair! I got jaded by all the comments saying my new pride an joy was a wasted purchase because of 1 limitation that might have some workarounds!
@@benjaminyoder3518 yeeeep... I'm a no sugar guy myself, but I'll be slushing it up from time to time anyways... Can't resist. Haha.
And yet the scoop brand slush ice syrups sold here, has sugar in it 🤷
@Deathbyfartz working on finding some sugar free premix... Jolly rancher makes a few.
I'd drink coffee frappes instead of food.
Same. Haha
Me too 😂
22:30 I don’t think he understands how the machine works nor does he understand how sugar affects the freezing temperature.
Machine giving a warning because it’s clear that ice was building up on the condenser and bending the plastic auger. No amount of sugar he adds will melt the ice that already built up. He needs to dump out the batch, take out the condenser and melt off the ice build up.
Sugar lowers the freezing temperature of the mixture, that is all. It interferes with the ice crystals forming, just as alcohol does. What he needs to do is retest the Coke Zero, but set the temperature all the way down and closely monitor the ice buildup on the condenser. It probably still wouldn’t work, but the amount of sugar required would be significantly reduced.
As for making soft serve, he needs to retry again, but dump out half the batch and slowly increase the freeze level. There are two issues at play. The more the mixture freezes, the more it’ll expand. Also, the strength of the auger is the limiting factor since it’s plastic. Increasing the freeze level too quickly causes the mixture to freeze too quickly and prevents the auger from scraping the ice buildup on the condenser.
Wild idea for tinkerers: try 3D printing a stronger auger out of metal and replace the plastic one. Also modify the shape of the auger slightly so the edge is a little sharp to better help scrape the ice from the condenser.
Caveat: the auger might be made of plastic on purpose to be the sacrificial part to save the motor. If it’s replaced with a metal one, there’s a chance the condenser and the auger would freeze together and overload the motor.
Hey.. Thanks for the info. Will take those ideas and implement. Take care! Awesome addition.
A metal auger with a plastic woodruff key as a mechanical fuse might be possible.
Try putting an elastic ban to keep the top from falling off the catch cup, it will work like a seal.
@@elainefinneran5773 I tried that.. It make it a little too thick.. I just used a little piece of electrical tape over the side and it fixed it right up. Doesn't look like others are having that problem, so it must just be me.
If not the cost, it would definetly be on my countertop.
It's a tough pill to swallow for sure... Might be good to keep an eye out for it at Costco sometime in the future.
Well thats saved me some money. Who in their right mind would wait 3 days for a milkshake!?
That was a SpongeBob joke... It took about 40 mins. 😉
I have the Snow max 3000 from Amazon works great with sugar free.. absolutely love it
Nice! Working on a few recipes for this one that will work sugar free also. Also, Jolly Rancher makes some zero sugar slushie pix pre made that I'm checking out as well.
@@JoesPhenomenal OMG.. thank you !!! I’m always looking for ways to make sugar free options!! Love your videos!!!
@SheriMorgan thanks! Appreciate ya. 🙂
i just bought this for a family member who's always having gatherings. curious about if your doing something simple with one or two ingredients can you re add when its getting low while its running other then emptying it out.
Yeah.. You can... It will just incorporate into whatever is left in there.
Oh, I remember Orange Julius. Best drink that I can no longer buy.
They got bought by Dairy Queen, so you can get that drink there still
Easiest smoothy variant: OJ, frozen pineapple or strawberry, sugar(I use agave syrup) scoop of coffee mate. Identical to shopping mall Orange Julius. Has the froth on top and juice under. I also like frozen mango or frozen strawberry. Add water to cut the acidity of the OJ and it separates exactly like an 80s Orange Julius, which used frozen OJ concentrate, sugar, water, ice cubes, and powdered non dairy creamer.
For $400 CAD, I'll skip on this product. I love my Creami and use it weekly, but no way I am wasting 400 bucks on slushi machine. Thanks for the video!
You got it! Love my Creami
Nice review. Thanks.
Thanks for watching!
You usually need sugar cuz it stops the ice crystals from getting large. Only other thing I can think of that can do it well enough is alcohol, but then everything in there is now with alcohol. I dont know if you could use other types of sugars like fructose but I would just stay with regular sugar for a lot of other reasons.
I was gonna try a combination of allulose and guar gum to see if I could get it to work.
@@JoesPhenomenal I learned elsewhere that glycerol is also used in more massproduced slushes, thats another options
@witchy90210 will need to try that too. Thanks.
Just a nit but the part that gets cold is the evaporator. The condenser is where the heat is dissipated.
@@svede12 yep... I misspoke there. Thanks for the correction! I had a couple of other people mention that too. Lol.
7/11 ain't got nothing on Ninja. Oooooh ima have some crazy drinks up in my home soon. Probably crazy expensive so I'll wait a few years. My gourmia air frier is still going strong
You can make slush with the Ninja Creami or Vitamix.
Yep! Sure can.... Takes a lot longer in the creami though... Wanna gonna compare a creami Slushi to a Slushi Slushi soon.
Fat would be an effective replacement for sugar, less fat needed than sugar, so yogurt (low sugar, high fat).
How well would this make a daquri??? That what I would mainly want it for. Excellent video. You have me wanting one.
Gonna be resting a whole bunch of alcoholic drinks coming up.
OK great! That’s what I’m mostly wanting this for. lol thanks for the reply.
@Prometheus1979 any time!
It may fit under the cabinet but you have to pull it out to put the liquid into the machine. Would have been nice if they could have made the liquid opening as close to the front as possible.
Ah... Yep... Didn't think about that one. Good insight.
I never heard of this Ninja, I love their products. I don't eat sugar though, oh well. Plus what would I do with that much slushie at once?
It jussssst came out. You can make quantities as low as 16oz. Working on some ways to get it to work without the sugar.
The smaller model drip catch has a snug fit!! 72oz model
It looks like you still need to do some planning with this machine. Question 1 can and how do you store leftovers? Can you just put in a container and scoop out? Question 2 other than the 24 hour freeze with the creamy, how do the 2 compare? Final product wise that it.
For the leftovers, if your fridge is set pretty cold, it will keep in there and still be pretty Slushi over night. However, you can do slushis all the way down to 16oz I think, so you can avoid too much of that. For the creami, I was planning on doing a Slushi comparison between the 2 machines to see how they differ.
This is basically a mini fridge, right? Does it impact the electric bill much?
Not too much... It's only 220w.
You should make a Wendy’s frosty copycat in this, curious if it can make a good one
Likewise in the Creami.
Hmm... Possibly... Those are pretty soft. I need to go get one for "research"
Definitely can do it in the creami.
@@JoesPhenomenal I’d love to see how to create the equivalent. There are quite a few recipes but none of them are very convincing.
@SavedByZero yeah.. I've seen those. We'll get it done... I can usually get something going rhat reasonably close.
Here's a lil tip, chill your sodas if u want a colder slushy
Good tip!
Could you make a slush or milkshake recipe, then pour the thick sauce into ICE LOLLIPOP MOLDS, then place into the freezer. That might mean you have ice lollies which are not ROCK SOLID and you can easily bite into the ice lollipop 😜
That might work... Will have a little air inside them also probably
Thanks for the info.
The drip tray on mine fits snug and doesn't fall off.
Good to know.... Maybe just inconsistent manufacturing possibly. Understandable on a brand new product.
Thanks Joe... awesome video.... they are all sold out right now... can't wait to get mine ....
Thanks! That's typical... They had the same supply issues with the Creami. Are you on the wait list?
@@JoesPhenomenal yes😎
How did we order this slushy machine? Do you have an amazon link?
Still waiting for Ninja to release it on Amazon. You can go directly to the Ninja website though. Last I checked, it was still sold out though.
I grew up in the Slurpee capitol of the world. Since I moved I haven't had many opportunities to have real, proper slushies. I was so looking forward to this. Sadly, I am diabetic. Can't do full sugar sodas. 😢 Just gutted. 😢💔
Trying to get allulose to work in there. If I do, you'll have your sugarless Slurpee.
Would the Soda Stream pop work? Are you able to try it? It has sugar in it, however, just not as much as regular soda.
It should work fine as long as the sugar content is above 4% of the total volume.
You should try the sugar test with water then add sugar bit by bit till it works
Hmmm... might have to try that
I just bought a Creami at Costco, and now they do this to me. LOL! I'd like to see a comparison of the Slushi's milkshake mode compared to the Creami's milkshake. Since it has a "Spiked Slush" mode, I assume that means things like frozen magaritas?
Yep.... Gonna slush up a bunch of fun drinks... That milkshake idea is a good one. I'll do a comparison.
Bro this is a Holiday Slam dunk contest winner
I was always really dismissive of the ninja brand, thought of them as "as seen in TV" rubbish. Have a couple of their kitchen appliances now and the quality is exceptional.
They really used to be a joke. They still carry that stigma for a lot of people, but I think they've really come a long way.
@@JoesPhenomenal we have chicken salt in Australia, kfc make their own blend and its awesone
@solreaver83 hmm.... Chicken salt eh? Need to look into that one.
How tall is it with the handle flipped forward? Looks like it gets a lot closer to 18 inches.
The handle on the top to release the pitcher or the handle to pour the slushies?
Hi mate, any chance youre going to review the new Ninja Cafe Luxe? Thank you.
Funny that you say that. I just finished the unboxing for that with a short demo that will be posting tomorrow... Will have the review up in a couple of weeks.
I wonder if this thing can make pina coladas? Also can you just use bottles of soft drink or do you need special ingrediants like you are using.
Should be able to to the coladas. Gonna try it out. The soft drinks can go in unchanged as long ad they are the regular sugary kind... You want them as cold as possible going in though to limit the amount they go flat.
You can't turn the heated drying cycle off on your dishwasher?
Mine has a button.
You can... and that would help quite a bit. The problem I always had was moisture pooling and sitting around the metal screws while it was sitting in there, and over time corroding those a little.
Question, will this work on grape juice slushy? The pretty much default everyday slushy
It should be fine. I'd imagine that would just be the 1 ingredient and the frozen juice setting.
I think the sugar thing is kind of a small issue honestly. If you dont use it every day and watch it, than its not a huge issue. Id probably use it a coupke of times a week at most, especially during the summer. It saves me from going to 711 and getting a slurpee if i want one, plus the fact alot of 711s make it easy for your card to get skimmed so this is a win win in thay sort of situation lol. Its really dependent on the person using it, like everything else out there.
Thanks for the review. Ill probably end up snagging one a sale, hopefully sooner rather than later haha.
Thanks for checking it out! I would keep an eye on Costco. They'll get it eventually, and will probably be at a really interesting price too
I times given. What can we estimate would be the time to make a ny thing- yes I know it varies….so adding the time each took would be helpful
Seems like it varies based on the texture you want and the ingredients, but for me it is someplace between 25 and 45 minutes.
Damn really wanted this. Why do we need sugar?! I want to watch out how much sugar intake i have .is there any work around? I really want some 0 sugar or LOWWWW sugar choices
I just ordered in some sugar free slush mix online... Gonna try it out and see what it does.. Might be able to adapt the ingredients to other things too if it's good.
@@JoesPhenomenalu are awesome
@loitersquadX 😊😊
Walmart has these for $249 now but it has to be delivered
That's not bad at all.
I need this
I would like to see if real soft serve mix will work better than milk and cream.
Ninja is great at making almost awesome products, but they always manage to mess it up. My creami won't power on unless I unplug the power cord and plug it back in. The new foodi grill has a problem with the thermometer throwing an error that it's not plugged in if you place it into meat that's 40 degrees or colder (the older model didn't have this issue). The blenders are ok, but they're pretty fragile and the lids are overengineered for "safety".
There always seems to be some sort of crazy flaw... I hear ya... Remember the Creami Breeze got cancelled mid-production due to fires, evidently. I feel like they need to slow down a little bit, and work on tweaking and perfecting their stuff before making new models. That being said, I personally have been really lucky. None of my Ninja products have ever failed me with the exception of one food processor bowl cracking, and one ninja creami lid needing a replacement due to a little plastic nub breaking off.
What recipe did you use for the orange Julius!? Great video.
Thanks! I made that one up. I have that video going live on Friday.
Thanks for the reply! Really enjoying your vids and information. Looking forward to seeing the Friday video!
@MrJoseJasso thanks! Glad you like em!
where is the link to amazon for this item?
Still waiting for them to make one available. The rollout on these has been rough.
As I have been looking and haven't found where to buy this.
@DerekMatthews still sold out right now... Ninja had a supply chain issue I guess.
@JoesPhenomenal but they should still be showing on amazon or am I wrong. I have heard people ordering them online and not getting them even when the site said they have been delivered.... Also heard there is no release date for the UK yet some say 2025.
@DerekMatthews well.. I think the Ninjas sold on Amazon are actually 3rd party resellers... Maybe not Ninja Directly. I could be wrong on that though, but I haven't seen the Slushi on Amazon at all yet. The Ninja Creami went trough that too when it got released. Haven't heard about the delivery drama though.
Thanks, great review.
Thanks!
What’s your frappe recipe you used in this video?
Here goes the link: th-cam.com/video/3f6zJ0RfjX0/w-d-xo.html
Might not get soft serve, but you freeze it after you will get ice cream.
If the ice cream is not firm enough, you could put it in the freezer overnight and let it harden.
Noted and appreciated!
Just a thought on the Orange julius, add a little malt.
Well that sounds good. Thanks!
Love this video thank you
Glad you enjoyed it!
Is that drip tray metal u could supper glue a magnet in it to hold it
It's all plastic. I just added a tiny piece of waterproof tape in there and it sinched it right up
You didn't get the froth on your orange Julius because you're missing an ingredient, egg whites. It's actually one of the ingredients in the original recipe.
Thanks! Someone else mentioned that too, after I posted it. Will be doing it again with the egg whites.
So have you tried Soda fountain diet syrup. Slushies use syrups.
Need to try that.
Can you make a video about slushy energy drinks using Ninja Slushi?
Sure... I can work on that