Is it Stupid to Move to China in 2018?
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Many people ask us if it is still worth considering a move to China in 2018. Is it as good as it used to be? We give an honest breakdown as to who and if you should go.
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...World star gigolo Zenmaster Laowhy.. I totally agree with you because China I saw 2019 and traveled through was not it was before ..Sad and disappointed too because I had an occasion to talk to a local police captain to resolve a minor problem in a second tried city where I felt around local policemen seeing watching me and snapping shot on my passport
ID as I sat on the bench and couldn't see them taking the photo ..
Why don't they openly take snap shot of my passport and do it behind the secene?
I felt every policeman looked at me with suspicious eye and I felt it very annoyed and uncomfortable..
..
Why don't they see me friendly ?..
But they worked hard on my problem and with full responsibility and resolved my case... .. ..I got deeply touched for their sincerity except f...ing suspicious eye on me.. what the fuck do they think I am ? A spy?
..I am a lonely traveler!
Looking forward to ADVJapan ,
DA Master
Yeah!
Everyone is expecting ADV Japan led by Dear Baldyman the World Star Gigolo !!!
something tells me these guys won't be in China for very much longer.
I remember hearing C-milk was planning on heading back to the states.
collin ohlinger -- Winston has dropped a couple of hints he will leaving China in the near future, too. Nothing overt, just things he says.
They'll be in China, but in a political prison, at the rate they're going with the things they're posting.
How will Winston leave China? He is from South Africa and it is not easy to get a visa for the US, Europe or Australia.
@@thegoodolddays9193 How? Who will sponsor his visa? It ain't that easy.
I lived in China for 15 years and recently left - I agree with everything talked about 100%
So the question would be … what country would you move to NOW?
Underrated comment. This one belongs up!
I have the same question. I'm thinking it could be Vietnam, but I'm not sure.
My father went to Singapore a lot in his last job, it seems like a nice place, provided you don't break the law; I've heard they are very tough on suspected criminals.
Back to South Africa.
Zimbabwe
I'm crazy envious that you guys had that life opportunity to live there during the golden years. I've been visiting for work back and forth the past 4 years and have even considered moving there, but like you guys said, things aren't as free/adventurous anymore.
A quick recap to the video is No don’t move to China because china’s best years are behind and the perception of foreigners is worse now. Anyways stay awesome everyone.
Thanks for the recap. I was commenting with a general comment that had nothing to do with the video. You saved me from actually having to watch the video. Thanks mate!
I think China will keep growing, and her golden year hasn't passed yet. Future 10 years we will be more prosperous.
@@achillesarmstrong9639 Not with a full on dictatorship it's not.
I live in China and I approve this message.
lol can't forget the "stay awesome" in the recap
I liked, commented, subscribed, and will stay awesome.
thank you!
Haha, great :D
That's the spirit, my friend ;)
mee ruh yu rong tine.....
That misty mountain shot after the intro killed me, flattened me. Taiwan is insanely beautiful.
Yeah, you really should make a trip to Taiwan, it's gorgeous
I've been living in Shanghai since 2009 and I agree with everything you say here. Even in such a "international" city as Shanghai, I can definitely feel the huge difference now compared to 8 years ago.
The peak of everything was when Shanghai hosted the World Expo in 2010. I remember going there and just thinking to myself how China is the future, and how Shanghai will be the most modern and international city in the world in a few decades. The general thought among me and all my friends in China at that time was that anything is possible in China, and China is the new land of opportunity. It was such a great time to be alive!
But all that changed around 2013. I started to notice how things were going backwards, nationalism and anti-Western attitude was on the rise, and this glorious land of opportunity started to look more like a land that didn't want me to be there. Some of my friends who were running small businesses in China were increasingly worried, and now almost all of them are gone to other Asian countries simply because they didn't feel safe about keeping their money stashed in China.
In Shanghai nowadays, the local government is on a hunt to close down restaurants and bars owned by foreigners because they view the expansion as a threat to Chinese restaurants and Chinese "superiority". Why do you guys think "Laowai Park" exists in Shanghai anyway? That's because its a closed-off space underground. It's a controlled environment where foreigners can hang out and drink beer and eat pizza. It's basically like a zoo, and that's exactly how they want to regulate us. What I dislike most about this is all the internship students whom come to Shanghai for like a year and can't see through this, going to Laowai Park and shouting "I love Shanghai". I can't really blame them though. I just feel sad for them, because they'll never experience the golden years of Shanghai.
This is just one of many examples, but all in all I can definitely say that I would not move to China today knowing all of this.
2010, glad i was there back in those times. got some great memories and no bad ones. it really was something epic. i thought i would stay for a long time
barrelrolldog Another thing is that Shanghai is ridiculously overpriced now compared to 2010, everything from rent to food costs way too much for the level of quality you get. Back then I was fine with the low quality because it was still cheap, but now you're paying the same price as in western countries for some things, but you don't get the same quality.
@@Jonipoon word. the rent is crazy. its not that bad in taipei, and i think the lifestyle is nicer. china citys are cool for me to just visit instead of live now.
You hit the nail on the head my friend. There are only so few people I know that can relate to exactly what you're talking about. I lived in Shanghai from 2008 and I really thought I would be in Shanghai for most of my adult years. However, I left in 2016 for Singapore. I still visit at least once a year, but every trip that takes me back to Shanghai leaves me feeling things are not quite the same.
Shanghai gov has closed many restaurants for the sake of elevating the cityscape and controlling the population(population control only in Beijing and Shanghai), not just targeting foreigners.
It could be seen as a bad thing for the city and residents, but it is stupid to regard this as something targeting foreigners.
Doubt how self-focused you are since you said you has stayed for so many years.
So the rose tint is fading on the glasses. Same for me after 5 years
I’m so glad I came across this channel! Extremely informative. I am concerned with your safety and hope you stay safe.
As a Chinese being oversea since 2016, over the years I have learnt more about my own country from you than from Chinese sources. You have been to more places in China than most Chinese. You have been more adventurous in China than most Chinese. And you have been more revealing of Chinese realities than most Chinese in a way more unbiased than most Chinese. If I run China, I would definitely hire you guys to promote Chinese tourism oversea, and special counsel to Chinese problems. Back in the Qing Dynasty, the government hired westerners to represent Chinese diplomacy and taxation, turns out those westerners had way more integrity and competence than corrupted Chinese bureaucrats.
As matter of the fact that the postal service and customs in Qing Dynasty were sold to UK because they lost the war against westerners.
However, westerners did help China establish modern public services.
@@user-pd2iu2ju4v现在油管一大堆外国人假扮中国人发评论，全都是开头我是中国人或者作为中国人，我看多了
@@user-pd2iu2ju4v Watch "The Last Emperor" movie.
C Alex 自己当狗，不要拉上所有人，败类
I have a feeling that we're being prepped for a departure from China for the lads, at least for the channel content. ADVAsia?
Since cmilk is moving, looks like ADVUSA? :)
@@Kvothe1994 wait he's moving?
Time for the wives to take over for Chinese living in the West.
@@dylaz13 in one video he and vivi said, since their daughter has to go to school, and it's more convenient in the US
They also don't want to have their next baby born in china
Ironically, KLG got higher rating (4.4) than the recommended restaurant (4.3).
haha. Great comment
You can't go wrong with KLG
LOL!
its not ironic, taiwanese fried chicken is usually pretty good.
Is it stupid to move to Germany in 1936?
Depend, are you a fan of the party?
That exact same question could be asked by some people in regards to moving to the USA right now.
Js Travelers you kind of people should live in china for a while, then you will understand the differences
@@kimmelzhang4185 You kind of people should learn world history. Then you will understand what is going on in the world.
History repeats itself because you kind of people don't bother to learn about it.
Js Travelers last check America was still a democracy, kid.
You guys are awesome, stay strong and thanks for sharing it with us.
be always grateful to see your gentleman's video, stay awesome!
Loving the Taiwan videos!
ADVJapan? ADVTaiwan?
Starry Dynamo
Duuuude, Id be down to see some real, centuries old chinese culture in Taiwan. None of that ribbon dance crap fake culture on the mainland. Communist china squandered their tradition but Taiwan didnt
@@ArchesBro Taiwan and Japan have both kept their history intact, which is great to see. I'm told Tainan has a lot more historical stuff left than Taipei does. Sort of the Kyoto of Taiwan.
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@@ArchesBro The Chinese tourists go to Taiwan to learn about "old" China.
@@genjii931 yes thats very true. Lived there almost 4 years and so much of Taiwan's local tradition and past lives on in Tainan.
im happy you guys are going to do this new structure , always great content .
It makes me happy you guys are obviously doing well enough to buckle down even more !
much love from canada
Great stuff guys! Glad to hear that you’re formalizing the show into time slots.
The golden years for folks moving into China now are just about over, 20years of living in China, the was 2004 until 2014. Greed and showing off is now the rule, the small business lined streets are all but gone in many larger cities. My daughter at 16 misses the times she remembered when she was younger...
I went alone to Taiwan early this year, I miss that place a lot. I would probably move there from UK if I could.
歡迎你來台灣 ^ ^
Daniel McDermott ?? Living in taipei and moved from seoul. Taiwan isn't very modern... more of an oldish style but is more organized than China. If you go to shanghai it is super modern, has clean air unlike beijing since it rains all the time there. Taipei is a great starter city for foreigners... definetly has the best food and is a good all around place. Only reason I would not recommend shanghai is because of the price. Also don't think shanghai is the only modern city... hangzhou, shenzhen, harbin, and xiamen are probably the four cities that resemble an american/european lifestyle the best. I would avoid nanjing, chengdu, chongqing, xi'an, guangzhou if ur looking for high rise, modern lifestyle. Those cities are more traditional and might not suit a foreigner as well.
I've been following you guys for almost 4 years know, on all of your channels.
Sheer amount of videos, from all over the place just shows how much you record and how much you actually upload.
Thanks for all the work you put in your videos just to show China on street level. Production quality has changed so much, even if GoPro battery dies. ;-)
Thanks mate, that means the world to us
Thank you for your hard work boys.
Much appreciated.
It's a shame that China has lost some of the magic it once had.
all of*
Well, dunno whether I would call it magic. Many things change. Some may instill more fear, others may alleviate fear.
But generally, so many things eventually lose their magic once fear-based powers takes over. And it is hard to watch and still happens as it always did. I am dreaming of a better world where that shit will be regarded as insanity of the past. But I'm not holding my breath. (Although that would probably eventually make things better. Not for the world though.)
Maybe not everywhere? Perhaps? Idk...
Not necessarily. The video is coming from a White western perspective. If you're say an ABC, CBC, etc it might not be that bad of an idea imo.
before mao you mean?
Love ur sense of humour
You guys are so cool! Stay awesome forever! I hope you never stop travel vlogging.
great video guys thanks, cheers from Montreal =D
The VPNs have been taking a really hard hits the last couple of weeks
obfs4 is still working, but requires you to setup your own server.
Anthony Condon it’s the bloody International a World Expo thing in Shanghai.
@@CarlosCirilo Yeah, there have been a couple of official international things going on. China loves the throttle the hell out of the internet whenever they hold them.
Some Chinese sites have stopped working in the EU due to the new data laws I have to use a VPN. TH-cam in China takes some effort to watch normally 320 and still jumping. Why are they leaving I could imagine uploading a 4K must take all night.
I'm using exp*ess VPN and don't have any problem , I think you just should change your VPN
Nice Mass Effect N7 jacket. Never noticed it before.
Y’all step up the production game every week. Well done boys
Awesome I love your vids. Ill be looking forward to Monday Wednesday and Fridays
This is one of the reasons I enjoy following your channel. It's really good to know that there are other people making the exact same observations I have been making over the last few years. The return of nationalism and paranoia, which is only being boosted by the trade war. Last year was the first time I had an outright Orwellian dream about being here, and that was right around the time I finally realized it was time to leave. The opportunities have been drying up, and many of the new regulations that the government is implementing have not only been hurting the foreigners, but the businesses that depend on foreigners. Many of the training schools here in Nanjing have had to shift to using only teachers that have degrees due to the crackdowns, but the teachers with degrees can easily get better work in other countries, with better benefits. Even within China themselves, they would get better opportunity working for international schools or universities (not to mention actual holiday time). But the fact is that with the massive shift in government and national attitude, everyone's leaving. All of the people who have been here between 4-12 years are packing their bags and seeking greener pastures, including me.
Anyways, rambling aside, It is good to know I'm not alone in this sentiment, and I wish you both the best in the future. I am curious as to SerpentZA and his future plans though. As bad as things are getting here, South Africa doesn't seem very promising.
Thanks mate, yes all the old China hands are making plans to leave
What a defective example you just provide, but even words containing such an example get a thumb-up from the V-blogger. How desperately you guys are attempting to show "LEAVING CHINA" has been a buzzphrase among foreigners?
Believe me. Many Chinese people feel averse to the propaganda as much as you do, but we are saddled with too many commitments and rarely start our analysis of any country from a political angle.
Alright, let me tell you this. China is indeed tightening control on many things, which is a mixed blessing for me but seems a totally bad news for you. Training schools in China have been developing for years in a loosely regulated condition (some call it "barbaric growth"). Starting this year, Chinese people in training schools are required to equip themselves with several degrees&certificates, depending on which subject the tutor chooses. I don't think this is unreasonable. But cannot imagine it is foreigners like you who start to complain first.
True, over the past decades, numerous foreigners came to China, contributing to the growth of China. Yet, charlatans that could do nothing other than teaching English in training schools also joined the trend, like this guy www.xianjichina.com/news/details_83453.html
Actually these days many Chinese teachers teach English way better than foreigners on the part of writing, reading and listening. Yeah, oral speaking is the last chance for many foreigner teachers to prove their indispensability. All of these point to a fact that foreigners have to improve their competitiveness and take jobs here seriously so as to...survive.
One of the vbloggers complained about being belittled in China, whereas it was a beautiful thing back when Chinese people seemed to embrace foreigners. I see you echo this by mentioning some similar changed attitudes. Of course, you could bombard the changed political climate here in China for a thousand times, but you should also realize that some foreigners in China get dismayed and decide to leave firstly because they cannot get an easy mode(superior treatment) in China as they could in the old days.
Now, you turn a blind eye to this, pull a long face and ascribe it to nationalism... Fair enough...
@@Geontn bro i wish i could give u a 100 thumbs up, but the vlogger wouldnt like it
@Noodles LM google "trump I'm a Nationalist" and "trump supporters" and you will find how many nationalists there are in America
@@Geontn A defective example? I've been here for years, and I am quite proficient in grammatical use and structure, something that I will agree with you on; Many other foreigners suck at. At the same time, higher standards for teachers is not entirely unwarranted, but not in the way it has been implemented. Especially with this blind idea many seem to have that China in a desirable place to live. Working in a training center, the schedules are terrible, the holiday time is poor, and the foreigners are not treated that much better than the Chinese these days (and I for one was an advocate for the Chinese teachers being treated better, more akin to the way the Foreign staff were. Instead, the companies have decided to the the opposite), and while the pay is good, the stress of everything else has absolutely not made it worth coming here to work for a year or two, earn some good money, then use it to travel.
It's not about superior treatment for a lot of us. It's about wanting to be comfortable. Coming to live and work in a different culture is not an easy thing to do, hence the reason many do not leave their home countries. When we do, we would like to at least be comfortable. Nobody wants to come to another country just to be treated like a alien with no rights. At least in other Asian countries we can have some of the same benefits. But even if I were to marry a Chinese woman tomorrow, I would not have the opportunity to apply for a green card, and I would not legally be able to work on a spousal visa. China has always had some problems, but it was easy to overlook those problems because there were opportunities, we were able to live comfortably, meet new people, and explore and learn about China while we were here. Now, at least some of us have money to travel, but no time. The only people willing to come work for training schools these days mostly seem to be Russian in the lesser schools, and the higher schools are suffering from ever decreasing foreigner counts while their own demands are increasing. None of this is about bias or any other issue. It's a fact. China was not considered a desirable place to leave even before we came here. We chose to come here because we did not believe a lot of the negativity. And, for a while, we were right to do so. But recently, policy changes have led to validation of some of the views of other countries (though many more are wildly off the mark), but the fact is that very few people with actual credentials are going to be willing to come to China and stay long term. Not when there are many countries nearby with much better reputation and quality of life, even if the pay isn't as good. Many foreigners love Japan, but they are hardly treated as "superior" by that country.
Stay awesome. 🎥🎥🎥🎥🎥
yeaaa!
Been coming to southern china for 7 years now (Huizhou) and have seen the changes you are talking about. Great video. Stay awesome.
I love that you are showing the countryside and naming the location of the video shoot. I appreciate the honesty what you 2 guys say. Too many people try to put a positive spin on things. You tell the pluses and negatives. Thanks.
BTW, It looks like you guys are driving the back road of rural New England or Appalachia(LOL). I like the size of your beer mugs. They are AWESOME.
That tunnel felt like a video game
Interesting how Winston wrapped up by saying "Our days are numbered", is that a subtle fear that one day for whatever reason the work visa renewal gets denied? if so, what happend then? Back to South Africa? or back to America for Matthew?
If that ever happens, I reckon it's better for Winston to try and go somewhere else rather than South Africa, coz... well, we all know what's happening there. #Farmlands
Thank you guys for doing this each week!
Your videos are very insightful. Keep up the great videos 👍
Taiwan looks seriously great!
and expensive
@eaxvac1 no we are No.200
John Denaci yes a province of China
Taiwan, the real China
mwtrolle poor city and poor people are real Taiwan.哈哈哈哈哈哈
The best time to plant a tree was 20 years ago. The second best time is now
No matter where you guys decide to go I'll be sure to watch your videos!
That final pan out shot was epic! Great viewing lads.
Woooo! Member status rocks!
Sure does!
I like that badge.
The Taiwan Experience is awesome..
Next is Japan??
Def on the cards!
@@ADVChina Please collab with "Only in Japan".. He is just like you guys and also have real work ethics and real Japan vlogger.
It was like my last year's dream... :)
reverend900 abroad in japan is a must though I won’t lie
@@ADVChina you are way more entertaining than that British guy, so it would be cool to see you guys do your version of Japan.
haha these 2 cant afford japan!!
Another great video, I dont know why but I have become addicted to your videos. I have never been to china but I find the information you share to be very interesting. I hope one day I can visit china, those computer parts stores and cheap electronics makes me jealous lol I wish we had that in the U.S. That said your videos also make me more appreciative of the fact that I was born in and live in the U.S. Great job guys!
Awesome work guys, especially with the google maps links etc.! one day I might do one of your tours :)
Is it possible for you guys to revisit this topic again in a later video as I feel like the low-battery issue may have taken away from some of the things you really wanted to get off your chest concerning the Pro's and Con's of a person moving to China in 2018.
I don't understand you guys. You are obviously unhappy living in China. So why just don't move to Taiwan or USA ?
They have family, lives, even their content is built around and in China.
Correct me if I'm wrong, but C-milk and his wife are moving to the US if they haven't already and Winston has alluded to leaving with his wife. They have both said that they wouldn't want to raise children there.
@@danieljong8442 no they were only visiting. If they do decide to leave China there won't be any uncertainty as they'll upload a lot of videos to justify their reasons and rake in the TH-cam monies haha.
I said it before and I will say it again. Your videos are always nice and do enjoy it every time i'm watching them.
Thank you for sharing and stay awesome...
C-Milk - “i mean, if your dead 💀 your dead. Just let me talk” 😂😂😂
Cmilk" Well im talking now" so shut up Winston, haha
Bowersachs you’re
I can’t thank you both enough for all your entertainment and education about China. I am here about 1-2 months a year for the last 2.5 years, and the knowledge I have gained has been so valuable. Especially since I am not in Shanghai or Beijing, but Nanjing - a little more like normal China (lots of stares, few foreigners, and little English)
sounds like where id like to go,
Good stuff, as always
Excellent perspective, concur!
I was just speaking about this same subject the other day. Even just 5 years ago there were lots of street stands and roadside BBQ's...and so much cool stuff that has all gone away now. And being from the USA I also have really seen the attitude change towards the "laowai"
Must be hard nowadays as an American, particular with this whole trade war.
@@MegaWarell Especially as an American with a factory here that exports to the USA!!
@@MegaWarell Trump nearly single handedly put me out of business...which would have put everyone back home that I ship product to out of work also!!!
its never feels good to be a foreigner, wherever you go
And when you go back home again it also does not feel good.
@@MegaWarell at least there is no discrimination back home
I always felt great being a western person in asia.
I don' t see any anti-asian fervor man. That is about ppl from Central America crossing the border illegally.@luke skywalker
FREAKING AWESOME KEEP THE VIDEOS Coming guys!!! YOU guys have completely changed my life!!!!! The view, out look, perspective I have of China has completely changed like a full 180degrees. Everything i thought i knew is way way different now!! OMG and especially the food videos are the best !!!!!!!!!!!! Much respect you guys !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! BTW please make more videos of foodmmMMMMMM
You are just awesome guys! greetings from Changzhou!!
China is a country where you might enjoy yourself at first only because you end up in a honeymoon stage at first. But after a while you lose that feeling. The reason you have that feeling to begin with is because the resentment towards foreigners people have deep down is something nobody will tell you about. But if you were told about their ethnic and racial pride and that mob mentality they have towards us and if it was explained to you in a way that you really understood things for what they are, that honeymoon stage would never be there to begin with.
That racial mob mentality people have. Once you understand just that alone, like when chinese witness two people in a fight, one is a chinese the other a foreigner, they will blindly form a mob and attack the foreigner. But when it is two chinese, nobody else cares. Once you understand just that one thing alone, you can get an idea of how your life is going to be. In my years living in china, nobody told me this. I figured it out on my own. And I came to hate that place with everything that I am. If I had my way, all countries in the world would put an immigration and travel ban on people from china, japan, and south korea.
That reality is a reality of immigrants everywhere. It is reality of minorities in USA. For white person it is really troubling. However for an immigrant or minority you learn this reality early on and embrace it. I have seen many of my friends self deport from USA because they cannot live as the outsider anymore.
As a kid I exprienced this in my rural village in Africa. I was in the majority and saw immigrant refugees working as farm casual laborers being treated as dirt. My family did what they could to shield them from this harrassment. Little didn't I know i would live this life as an immigrant in USA.
For Wiston he may be moving from frying pan that is China into the fire that America has become and has always been
@@francismbogo230 At least in western countries, we have a left wing media being sympathetic towards minorities. We have college professors in western countries trying to discourage white people from having children and instead buy a dog or a cat. Or they try telling white people to recognize their so called white privilege and bend over backwards to do something for the benefit of minority people. But in any non-white country, people don't do that. Nowhere in China do you have their professors saying that having chinese children promotes chinese supremacy. No chinese professors try to lecture chinese people on the concept of chinese privilege.
Shame it is going that direction. Although we all knew the opportunities couldn't last forever the fact that the general openness and friendliness is on the downturn really is sad.
You guys have really acquired the knowledge pretty much about every aspects of this nation .
Love u guys... thank u for everything... when i get out of debt I will Join n donate to all ur guy's Patreon accounts...
I was considering moving to China until I started watching all of your videos. I don't want to live somewhere where there's so much hatred toward foreigners.
Gramma Bert it’s ok
Based on their videos China is either Manhattan, The Bronx or West Virginia. No other options available.
Actually not.
Dude go to Taiwan, you would love it, it still keeps the traditional Chinese culture with FREEDOM!!! Communist China is a nation built by lies upon lies, bodies upon bodies!!!
In China you are foreigner first, human second. In Taiwan you are human first, foreigner second. You are seen as this weird alien who can be a subject of amusement in China.
I'm visiting Shenzhen now and when I look in the sky I feel like I an in Blade Runner in certain parts of the city what a place it has become, it is certainly making HK look outdated !?
HK unfortunately is very outdated now; shame really... I guess they just don't have the space to cope with development? Who knows...
Glad to hear you guys are finally getting out of China
Awesome video. Reminds me of the pilot episode of the Sopranos. It opens with Tony Soprano who is wobbling to the end of his driveway in a bathrobe and mug of coffee. He narrates over the scene, "by the time I made it to the top the best times were already over." Salud!
Looks like a closed KLG shop. There used to be quite a few around in Taiwan. Apparently a Malaysian chain - Kuai Le "G" (Happy Chicken). A blatant KFC ripoff, though.
Kaui Le G = Happy Hooker
I seriously hope you both have a solid "Plan B" for you and your families. As China expands its presence and influence via the Belt and Road initiative and other diplomatic and trade activities, they seem to be turning more insular. Whilst holding huge trade shows for import, they seem to only want the goods, not the people. The fairly open door looks to be less and less open for entry.
Well said, and Cmilk already has plans to have his 2nd kid in the US, why do you think the are making plans to pump out the vids , to stack up the money before.........chexit...
Sydney has loads of Plan B Chinese. They make there millions in China and hedge their wealth and possible personal safety with houses and Australian citizenship.
The new upload schedule sounds great for Brits; 13:00 EST = 18:00 GMT, just right for knocking off work and having dinner ;) Stay awesome.
Great video. I've been travelling to China over the last six years (visiting family since my wife is Chinese) and especially on the last visit, earlier this year I definitely noticed a difference to the attitude to me as a foreigner. It's not aggressive or uncomfortable, but that warm curiosity, inquisitiveness and subsequent friendliness have certainly lessened. The people felt a bit more distant, the 'looks' less welcoming. Of course, it wasn't from everyone I came across, but enough of them to make me feel that something had changed.
Hey, I have the opportunity to go and study in China for a semester. Could anyone recommend it or any particular City/university? I was mainly thinking about Peking University...
TAIPEI
oskarius99,
I wouldn’t go. It’s too politically unstable and things could change quickly. Remember when Chinese nationalism got out of hand and then BAM, everything Japanese was targeted, including Japanese people? You wouldn’t want to be around if your nationality suddenly became the target.
@Miztiki That's a BS, do you know that the Japanese prime minister just visited China recently, the truth is China and Japan are working together for a mutual benefit. And China just had its first Import Expo in Shanghai...
Don't even mention that in general Chinese universities rank higher globally and the teaching quality is better.
oskarius99 try Tsinghua university. It’s close to Peking. Can also try Beijing Language University. BLCU
When Matt asked you whether YOU'd still move to China in 2018, I just thought: If you were still in South Africa, absolutely! 😆
Matt, please don't call a scooter a bike. Okay? Thanks.
So Winston was talking to a Chinese nationalist who has been in Canada for ten years. "Nationalist". Okay. So that's how they roll in China.
Growth and positive change is so hope-instilling. Can awaken a lot of energy. Haven't found such a motivator yet. Seeing too much darkness enveloping things, ruining anything good, given time. (Constant renewal is important, not wasting too much energy on trying to fix old structures.)
I fully support the schedule idea!
I have been to China twice, once 22 years ago and again 3 years ago. The difference was like night and day. Although 22 years ago I was in rural part of the country for 3 months. The last time was in Suzhou for 10 days. From watching and intently listening to you, I now understand more of what I saw and experienced during those times in China. I am glad I had the opportunity to go and I am glad I discovered your channel! Thank you and as always......
The chinese nationalist has a canadian citizenship?
Wew lad...
ingusmant hypocrite much🤣
It's like these Tibetans who frequently protest at the local (Toronto) Chinese Consulate, "China out of Tibet now!" Fully supporting a future for the Tibetan people & a self-determining Tibetan homeland, I mirror their sentiments, chanting along with them, "Asians out of Canada now!"
@@GM4ThePeople well if you had half the brain you'd see your logic is absolutely wrong. Tibet have been the victims of China's occupation for a long time and have been put down and murdered, any kind of nationalism expelled, including tibet's leader.
@@GM4ThePeople Unless you're an indigenous Canadian, I think you've totally misunderstood the sentiment.
Yeah, isn't it funny? In Canada, they receive all the rights to go to school, equal legal rights, the right to buy property, the right to own businesses, they get their kids free schooling, qualify for old age pensions, get free medical care, and half of them don't even pay Canadian income taxes! But here's the kicker: they get butt hurt when people criticize the Communist party, and they tell people to leave China if they don't like it. The sense of entitlement is unbelievable
Since 9/11 America is not the same. We have lost a lot of our freedoms
Keep up the hard work! 👍🏼
Thank you for the video
Go to Vietnam in stead, they are much like you described Chinese to be when you first arrived. They really like foreigners, almost everybody there value foreigners being there and they are really curious.
Hang on, a Chinese nationalist getting Canadian citizenship. . . how can that work? dont you have to take an oath or something? isn't that a bit dangerous?
Where is the danger in that?
oh, and this "Chinese nationalist" will also need to swear his/her loyalty to the Queen of Commonwealth too!
Yes, the commonwealth who sold tons of opiums to Qing China nearly two centuries ago.
LOL!
@@paoDaoGe So, you understand how it's weird that a Chinese nationalist gets Canadian citizenship? Is that what you're stating?
@@padraig5335
Ever heard of "cognitive dissonance"? Lol, that Chinese nationalist is a classic case of that, lol.
@@paoDaoGe Yes, I have. Understand your comment fully now. That's why I asked the question, so I don't assume.
Always look forward to your ADVChina episodes on Monday! Thank you for your hard work!
Great video, and the timing is amazing! Two days ago I was talking to my Chinese friend here ( I live in China for the most part!), that over the last ten years China has circled back around almost back the the MAO time of rule. The last decade was pretty much open and free--it was truly the wild west, it was so wonderful. Over the last two years China is back on lock-down. Even my Chinese friends here see it...sad really :( C-MILK sell me your 250 Churchill!!!
Yes, good topic, your release plan sounds good......but I still want a KLC puke bucket!!
Awesome!
I understand your arguments, but it leaves me kind of sad, very sad...I mean, if even you two guys who have seen so much in this country, who lived so many adventures and even have family there, if even you wouldn't want to go there again right now, it sounds quite bitter , which leaves me quite melancholic; I always thought that in spite of all the disadvantages, living in China is after all awesome...kind regards
Living there long term with family is not awesome, it is an interesting experience but it is no where near awesome. Even Thai people I know don't understand why I live in China. Quality of life is not high in China. If you can make lots of money, sure, otherwise no. There are so many other countries in Asia where quality of life is better.
Operetto1 I feel the same way :(, I'm 24 now and I planned on moving next year and these guys are scaring me more and more with every video.
Living anywhere for a long period of time comes with similar patterns. Excitment and then noticing the sad voices in our heads which are the narratives of most of us as we talk to ourselves. The contemplating and observation of another country from a pair foreign eyes, eventually resonate with the suffors of that society, as the foreign mind becomes more absorbed into its surrounding. No matter where people are, our consciousness have to a tendency to critic and judge, which isn't a very good trait, but is also what essentially makes us human. Sharing may relief some pain, but at the end of the day, the illusion of switching somewhere for a better life is still an illusion, as every society has it's own equilibrium, which by large will always be a melancholy reflection of populist cynicism.
Places and things are in a constant state of change. I lived in Germany for about ten of the best years of my life; no way I'd live there now.
what the hell do you care what they do?? "which leaves me quite melancholic". lol what a clown !! do you always talk like a dork ??
Man I hope you guys get out before the real problems start. Good luck and Godspeed.
Milk, dang! Get a chopper. That's scooter ain't cutting it. It doesn't even live up to your intro music! Joking aside, I love your videos. My wife and I watch them together! Stay awesome!!!
Open. Free. China. These things do not go together.
Because they're a bunch of losers.
@@underthesheets5967
So who's a winner? You?
Taiwan has managed to put the three things you mentioned together.
Taiwan is much better than the Communist China!!!
@@Cho-Ng Yeah unfortunately Taiwan is too small with China oppressing it economically, so it doesn't have much of a future living under the shadow of China.
Everywhere's best years are behind them, it seems
I love that intro song sooo much. Like I look forward to hearing it.
Please do ADV Thailand!!!!! If you move, good luck with it all. I have watched you both for years! Best on TH-cam!
You say disparagingly that China is "fast and loose with the rules" moments after you've overtaken a truck on the wrong side with a double yellow line.... in Taiwan. I'm not criticising, I'm just confused.
Taiwan is China
No. Winston meant it as a good thing. The issue is that China has become more authoritarian, tighter with the rules over time.
Aw man i wanted you guys to also mention moving to Taiwan in 2018/2019! It looks so beautiful and I've heard it being the best of Japan and China put on one island. Would love to hear more about Taiwan since you're there. Maybe even comparison videos vs the mainland. (Also think you guys should do ADVothercountries 😎)
Another awesome submission. Thank you gentlemen ride easy. Live to ride ride to live.
Yeah with the monument thing i kinda know what you mean, I lived in Suzhou for the last year and when I arrived It felt like it could've been in America potentially but within the last month about three monuments with various hammer and sickle style imagery materialised in the main plazas of the part where I lived, we actually thought it was quite funny at the time and we used a bit of the front of a pizza hut box to cover the hammer & sickle after a night out being as the monument was completely surrounded by western capitalist food chains. In hindsight that was a pretty stupid idea but we were drunk at the time.
was it ever smart to move to china?
guess that depends where you're moving from...
And how much you earn.
I agree with you guys, the attitude has definitely changed. Preparing for my exit soon
Amazing Taiwan. The two of you are doing great work.